[00:06] hi all how do i check in a shell if statement if an argument exists in a safe way === Hornet- is now known as Hornet === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [07:32] Morning, I'm in bed and no I don't like Felines ! [07:43] redtape-renegade: but they love you! [08:21] join #freegamer [08:37] Morning everyone - happy Super Saturday [08:46] The rugby ? Who playin' , TheOpenSourcerer ?? [08:47] * redtape-renegade realises Angleterre is one. [08:48] It's Super Saturday - All three final matches of the 6 Nations [08:48] .. Hav IRL played Italy yet ? [08:48] redtape-renegade: http://www.rbs6nations.com/en/matchcentre/match-centre_fixtures-results.php [08:48] opening.. [08:49] [ Round 5 [08:49] Sat 16th Mar 13 14:30 Italy v Ireland Stadio Olimpico ]] :) [08:50] And the current table: http://www.rbs6nations.com/en/match-centre_table.php [08:50] opening... [08:51] A Cracking final day has been set up. France must try to stop getting the Wooden Spoon (and not winning a single match). [08:51] Wales must beat England by 8 points to win the tournament [08:51] If England win against Wales they do the Grand Slam [08:52] I thought IRL were going to the grandslam ? [08:52] lol [08:52] I thought "grand slam" was a tennis thing? [08:53] It just means winning all the matches in a group of them. [08:53] MartijnVdS, Shut up this is a proper sport. [08:54] TheOpenSourcerer, I don't get [ Pos [08:54] Team [08:54] P [08:54] W [08:54] D [08:54] L [08:54] F [08:54] A [08:54] PD [08:55] TF [08:55] Pt ] [08:55] woops. [08:55] P - Played [08:55] W - Won [08:55] D - Drawn [08:55] L - Lord [08:55] F - Ponts For [08:55] A - Points Against [08:56] PD - Points Difference [08:56] TF - Tries For [08:56] Pts Points [08:56] L - Lots [08:56] gah [08:56] L - Lost [08:57] Ahh .. So IRL can't be beat for the Grand Slam, then .. Have they won it before since 1983 ? [08:57] Dunno try Google. [08:58] * redtape-renegade scans lmgtfy [08:59] Struggling to setup an email server on a real domain, anybody have experience doing this and can guide me through? [08:59] .. No they haven't NEWSFLASH .. This is the 1st time in Rugby history, that they'll win it. [09:00] redtape-renegade: Ireland *cannot* do the Grand Slam. They have only won 1 game this tournament. The *only* team that can do the Grand Slam this year is England [09:02] Oh , www.96fm.ie/boxtube/default was wrong then .. Propaganda -ho ! [09:07] .. they keep changing their story .. like Scarecrow Man. [!!] [09:09] * redtape-renegade has a cup a Marvelous 'Lift' Red berry Cordial drink from Tresco. [09:11] * redtape-renegade got TheOpenSourcerer 's tweet this 'morning .. and agrees. [09:14] Does TheOpenSourcerer want acouple of Kubuntu pen's . I've got 00's ?? [09:14] No thanks. [09:14] **100's .. Oh. very well. [09:18] 'Jacques Brunel' [Italy coach ] .. such an unfortunate name. [09:21] " Pengui-l " . means ' french-twerp'.. Prob.ly why Linux Penguin will never take off there. [09:24] Meanwhile in Laaaaandon .. [ http://t.co/7bAChFl2hK ] [09:25] penngwyn means white head, but it's not slowed the UK down [09:27] shauno, Morning .. You going here at all ?? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1484095571/the-nerdtacular-2013-fan-event [09:34] shauno, S. Pats icon is on the www.96fm.ie .. Any thing happening in your area this weekend ? [09:40] Recommended email hosts? [09:41] mailinator [09:44] kvarley, mailchimp. [09:48] kvarley, ^ https://twitter.com/MailChimp ^ [09:59] FFoxy available now in Irish ,,, :: : http://t.co/pQm07dVKde [10:00] ^ ** :: bit.ly/RFo8Wy [10:00] ** www.bit.ly/RFo8Wy [10:10] morning [10:11] Ever been to Gibralta popey ? .. saw this is registered there :: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/flirt-planet-the-next-level?i=mabl [10:12] nope [10:12] I got it off here BTW :; http://blog.indiegogo.com/2013/03/team-indiegogos-campaign-roundup-31513.html [10:13] popey, Am I doing it, again ? [10:15] redtape-renegade: this is not #linkdump :P [10:15] * redtape-renegade kills himself with Salt. [10:17] thats a weird campaign [10:18] they claim they have the game working but want collaboration [10:18] but they don't say how you collaborate [10:18] just that giving them money is somehow collaborating [10:27] Morning === creakybore is now known as Guest81041 [10:28] top of the morning ta ya [10:31] The morning is top [10:55] good morning everyone, [11:05] Yo brobostigon [11:06] morning jacobw [11:11] Old! :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjDSY8LczFw [11:13] MartijnVdS: Oh dera [13:00] why does unicode in python always end up making me feel like a 5-year-old [13:02] try www.realpython.com . The book is free if you want it from me. Although the forum is middling quality. [13:03] shauno, because python is a language for 5 year olds? [13:03] * directhex flees [13:04] I keep trying, and I keep ending up back with php, which is even more painful to admit [13:05] shauno, Did you try the webLink [13:06] shauno, ^ ?? [13:06] no, because it's easier to just rewrite it in a language that has strings, than to read a book about it :/ [13:07] Well, why the heck are you asking, when you don't follow my advice ?? [13:07] * redtape-renegade Grumbles. [13:10] Anybody know what kernel version ipv6 support got introduced as mainstream? [13:13] it's not exact, but a ballpark from tldp; Note: you shouldn't anymore use kernel series 2.2.x, because it's not IPv6-up-to-date anymore. Also the IPv6 support in series 2.4.x is no longer improved according to definitions in latest RFCs. It's recommend to use series 2.6.x now. [13:16] Thanks shauno [13:21] Apparently, were all supposed to be on 3.8.x now :::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Timeline [13:36] good :) [13:38] MartijnVdS, What be good ? [13:39] that we're supposed to use a modern kernel [13:45] :) Oh for a second, I thought you were typing about the Sky's pope former address' ::: http://goo.gl/ca5nt [13:46] Getting awful network performance on LM [13:48] kvarley, I would use kernel 2.5.75 BTW [13:50] redtape-renegade: Doesn't seem to be ipv6 at all, I have disabled it and am still getting awful performance [13:52] kvarley, You don have pdns set up don't you ? ::: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59366/protecting-against-infinitely-slow-dns-servers/59406#59406 [13:52] **pdnsd [13:54] On transfers tho the speed is slow, so that means it's not DNS right? [14:06] Strange, there are problems for the RTL8111/8168B chipset on Linux Mint but not Ubuntu. How does that work? [14:06] * redtape-renegade hoover's. [14:08] How can I stop Linux from loading the incorrect module for my ethernet chipset? [14:08] It loads r8169 not r8168 [14:14] kvarley, Well my tech says the kernel that I said earlier works fine on his server.. that's all I got for you today, apologies. QUESTION::: Has the match with England started yet ? [14:19] kvarley, dunno if you got that: S0oo .. I'll repost it. [14:19] kvarley, Well my tech guy says the kernel that I said earlier works fine on his server.. that's all I got for you today, apologies. QUESTION::: Has the match with England started yet ? [14:20] kvarley, Your connection is all over the place BTWay. [14:25] redtape-renegade: I know it's looking like an actual connection issue to me now [14:27] WELL if you don't use BIND9 which is in the software centre .. sudo apt-get install bind9 I can't help you. [14:30] CALAV3RA, , Your connection is all over the place BTWay. Too. [14:31] * redtape-renegade takes photo's for the Williams Doc.ods [14:32] I looking for new digs. [14:34] I've tried to call the removal men on T:07624 240024 but they just take mesages | no removals = no moulin rouge. [14:52] Italy 3 : Ireland 3 .. Come on /Italians/ [14:54] Italy 6 : Ireland 3 .. there you go !! === feisar is now known as Guest79646 === Guest79646 is now known as feisar_ [15:06] BAD news if you have a cypuot bank a/c :: European officials said people owning more money will lose 9.9 percent. Cypriot bank officials said that depositors can access all their money except the amount set by the levy. :: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/16/3289677/cypriots-rue-bailout-deals-bank.html#storylink=cpy ::::http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/16/3289677/cypriots-rue-bailout-deals-bank.html , soz for caps. [15:07] Web Link :: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/16/3289677/cypriots-rue-bailout-deals-bank.html [16:05] Is it bad if I just get an SSL certificate for domain.com and just redirect www.domain.com to domain.com ? [16:11] kvarley: the certificate will either be for a specific hostname or a wildcard, *.domain.com [16:14] But is it bad to redirect www to a non-www domain just to give the user SSL [16:15] gmail does a redirect a bit like that [16:20] Is it possible to have multiple vhosts with SSL enabled? I'm getting redirected to the incorrect vhost currently [16:29] Ah, it's 1 IP per SSL vhost [16:51] pip pip [16:53] lets see who wins, relax with beer, and watch rugby, [16:55] Nice tweet about that indiegogo campaign popey : Quite odd. [16:56] very [16:56] Didn't see the video .. did it have a giraffe and bromance in it ? [16:57] hah [16:59] Better than the gayball on at 5pm ! [17:07] * redtape-renegade wonders over to /. ::: http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/03/16/144247/why-trolls-win-with-toxic-comments?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter === chalced is now known as chalcedony [18:58] haha .. Italy 22 | Ireland 15 .. told you :p [19:02] Did you all watch Red Nose Day ?? .... http://twitpic.com/catgiv [19:19] Hey guys. I've been unable to set up rules which allow me to access the internet using my VPN and only my VPN. [19:19] Could anyone help me? [19:20] I have GUFW and I've set a rule which enables me to connect to the VPN (To [IP] [Port]/udp, Allow Out, From Anywhere) [19:21] Then I followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1496473 [19:21] Allow In Both To (Your IP, that you collected from whatismyip.com [19:21] Allow Out Both From (The same IP again) [19:22] I'm still completely unable to connect to websites when I reject outgoing connections by default. [19:22] I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 [19:39] Heh, Spot the Welshman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFgDDFpCYAAb-Mg.jpg:large [19:46] evening all [19:46] do I want a wii u? === brian__ is now known as brian_ [19:59] AlanBell: No [20:06] AlanBell, You keep asking that: only the handset :S [20:09] kids were asking again [20:10] AlanBell> do I want a wii u? NO You were asking ! . AGAIN [20:10] :) [20:11] it got cheaper recently [20:13] Wee all know Nintendo is the Marijana of Vita ! What's next the Easter Bunny ? :O [20:14] http://www.duracelldirect.co.uk/pno/bth0001a.html [20:16] Topic for #ubuntu-uk-meeting is: Next Meeting 16th Feb 20:00 UK Time... lol [20:16] SuperEngineer: It might be right [20:16] What channel is it on ? [20:17] penguin42: but you ain't there either [20:18] i travelled back in time especially to check ;) [20:20] SuperEngineer: Hmm that ability could be very useful [20:20] SuperEngineer: Please pass on my apologies [20:54] * AlanBell fixes [20:54] kinda [20:54] I do have to sort out the Bletchley park thing, that would be cool [20:58] AlanBell: ;) [20:59] * penguin42 went a couple of years ago - definitely worth it (conveniently near a train station) [21:01] https://plus.google.com/photos/118251468822440261663/albums/5492401778142755041 are my pictures from it [21:09] * redtape-renegade eats his free KFChicken.. Scrumptuous ! [21:51] I'm just using Xubuntu as a client , but I dont know how to set preferences for changing the default Browser to Chromium .. Do you know how to do this ? [22:17] seen shauno? [22:17] !seen shauno? [22:17] I have no seen command