[15:22] <skellat> Cheri703: You busy?
[15:22] <Cheri703> not at the moment, what's up?
[15:23] <skellat> Did you see the "Vox Pop" e-mail where I'm seeking call-ins on a relatively easy question so that people hear more than just me on The Burning Circle?
[15:24] <Cheri703> I did...any takers yet?
[15:25] <skellat> Not yet
[15:25] <skellat> Leading by example is always encouraged
[15:25] <skellat> Oooh wait
[15:26] <skellat> Dad did one just so there was one
[15:26] <Cheri703> heh, I was considering it. I may. I'll think about what I might want to say and decide at that point
[15:27] <skellat> Remember, it is a voicemail message.  You don't get very long to say much of anything.
[15:27] <Cheri703> well yeah
[15:27] <Cheri703> hence the need to think about it first
[15:28] <skellat> Dad forgot to add after saying he uses Lubuntu that he finds it great because it boots without hassle for him compared to Windows
[15:29] <skellat> How else are things in Mansfield?  We've got new snow falling here in Ashtabula.
[15:29] <Unit193> Oh that's nice!
[15:29] <Cheri703> it was SUPER foggy when I got up (like an hour and a half ago)
[15:29] <Cheri703> which is rare because I'm on top of a hill
[15:29] <Cheri703> it's not often foggy up here
[15:31] <skellat> Thankfully I'm below North Ridge so it doesn't get too foggy here generally.  Out at The Farm in Sheffield near Plymouth Ridge it gets foggy at interesting times.
[15:32] <skellat> If we get fog the visibility is usually gone too
[15:33] <skellat> Starting from the lake heading south we've got three main ridges of North Ridge, South Ridge, and Plymouth Ridge...
[15:34] <skellat> North Ridge aligns with US Route 20, South Ridge mostly aligns with Ohio Route 84, and Plymouth Ridge doesn't align with any major route
[15:36] <Cheri703> my exciting thing I did last night was get vnc to android working
[15:36] <skellat> Oooooh
[15:36] <Cheri703> the tablet my friend gave me just got WAY more useful
[15:36] <skellat> Was the mouse able to substitute for touch gestures?
[15:36] <Cheri703> trying to decide if it's worth paying $10 for the really smooth app
[15:36] <Cheri703> oh, I guess I mean viewing computer on android
[15:36] <Cheri703> not the other way
[15:36] <Cheri703> though you can do the other way using webkey
[15:37] <Cheri703> to view android on computer
[15:37] <Cheri703> must be rooted though
[15:38] <skellat> Oh
[15:38] <skellat> As long as I can get an external keyboard and an SSH client, I'm usually good
[15:39] <Cheri703> so the way I'm set up now, I can view phone from computer and computer from phone :)
[15:39] <Cheri703> my specific use case is being able to work on gnucash file from tablet
[15:39] <Cheri703> and that doesn't exactly work over ssh
[15:41] <skellat> True.  X forwarding would not work well.  Most of what I've need to do lately has been command-line based
[15:42] <skellat> Lots of library land people are still in shock over the planned termination of Google Reader so I've been looking over alternatives
[15:42] <skellat> Especially host-your-own alternatives
[15:43] <Cheri703_> what was the last thing that came through from me?
[15:46] <skellat> (11:39:42 AM) Cheri703: and that doesn't exactly work over ssh
[15:47] <Cheri703> ok, before it went sideways, I tried to say "also used it to set up dropbox on my server desktop before getting out of bed this morning :)"
[15:53] <skellat> Nice
[15:54] <skellat> Anybody not sound off yet to the Technical Board on Mr. Shuttleworth's updated revised release cadence proposal?
[16:04] <Unit193> And did you see the Unity stack got a FFe?  They put feature freeze later so this exact thing wouldn't happen, and the best part is that it'll be ready next week.
[16:04] <Unit193> Ubuntu isn't one to play by it's own rules. :P
[16:11] <skellat> Well, send an e-mail to the Technical Board and complain.  There was plenty of disagreement in #ubuntu-release over that happening with Unity.  If you tell the Technical Board perhaps someone might realize something is amiss.
[16:11]  * skellat is also working on yet another application to go back to college
[16:13] <Unit193> Nah, it got "sabdfl'd"
[16:17] <skellat> Ah yes, "Deploy The Cosmonaut"
[16:17] <skellat> Again
[16:28] <thafreak> I was mainly using ubuntu standard...but lately compiz has been pissing me off causing all kinds of problems
[16:28] <thafreak> So at work, I switched to lubuntu, and at home I'm testing kubuntu
[16:29] <thafreak> if I had a single determinite answer, I'd call it in :)
[16:29] <thafreak> Actually, my most deployed ubuntu is ubuntu server ;)
[16:29] <thafreak> Maybe that's what I call in
[16:30] <skellat> A lack of a determinate answer could still be indicated :-)  Vox Pop is when people get to sound off.  We don't do that enough.
[16:35]  * skellat disappears to handle printing paperwork and other crap
[16:52] <Unit193> skellat: Is apt-offline actually better than synaptic for offline package management?
[16:52] <Unit193> Only thing I'd think it does that synaptic doesn't is repo update, no?
[19:17] <skellat> Unit193: Yes
[19:17] <skellat> Offline repo update is the key
[21:09] <dzho> moo