[00:00] <twist3d> !available
[00:00] <AureliusR> ngf: probably, but if it's a windows-based game you'll have to use WINE
[00:00] <ngf> can need for speed world play on ubuntu?
[00:00] <ngf> how does wine work
[00:00] <AureliusR> ngf: look up on the WINE website if people have successfully used it to play that game
[00:01] <AureliusR> it emulates a windows environment to play games and other windows applications
[00:01] <Duality> wine app database or something
[00:01] <vincentS> play on linux :D
[00:01] <Duality> AureliusR: wine: Wine is not an emulator
[00:01] <twist3d> ngf, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
[00:01] <AureliusR> Duality: also, WINdows Emulator
[00:02] <AureliusR> !wine
[00:02] <ngf> so wine just makes an artificial windows enviromaent
[00:04] <AureliusR> ngf: basically, yes. I find it works very well for games
[00:05] <AureliusR> however, remember that many games are able to be played without WINE if they have a linux version
[00:05] <Duality> i love when games have linux versions of them :)
[00:06] <ngf> O.K. because I am doing a Pc build and my budget dosent have enough to buy windows
[00:08] <vincentS> i wouldn't even want to spend budget on windows ;)
[00:08] <ngf> how much HDD space does ubuntu take up?
[00:08] <vincentS> ngf,  depends on what you install
[00:09] <AureliusR> but typically not as much as windows ;)
[00:09] <AureliusR> lubuntu is a lighter version, and is quite a bit smaller, but of course has less features.
[00:09] <AureliusR> if you're building a new computer that has newer hardware, then regular ubuntu 12.10 will be fine
[00:10] <AureliusR> a new version of ubuntu will be released next month, ubuntu 13.04
[00:10] <AureliusR> so keep an eye out for that as well
[00:10] <ngf> sooo would a 8gb USB stick be enough to transfer to my new build?
[00:15] <sam1> why can't I paste files from a volume to another volume?
[00:15] <twist3d> hmm
[00:16] <twist3d> sam1, permissions most likely... what errors are you getting.
[00:16] <veryhappy> guys, is there any possibility to synchronize my home directory + files of /opt, my configurations and update-alternatives-settings?
[00:16] <twist3d> sam1, have you tried sudo cp filename /source/to/new/directory?
[00:16] <veryhappy> to another computer i mean
[00:16] <sam1> the paste item from the contextual menu isn't available
[00:17] <twist3d> sam1, try using the menu on an item on your desktop
[00:18] <sam1> for some reason root owns it
[00:18] <sam1> rather than me
[00:18] <twist3d> !chown
[00:18] <sam1> weird isn't it?
[00:18] <Duality> almost i typed here my password :P
[00:18] <veryhappy> !help
[00:19] <veryhappy> :D
[00:19] <veryhappy> lol
[00:19] <veryhappy> i just wanted to see if also a normal user can access the bot
[00:21] <usuario> jean pier
[00:23] <SailorMoon> Retard questions, Activate! If i run Ubuntu in VirtualBox and mount my external hdd to it, and then reboot my desktop, can i use it?
[00:23] <SailorMoon> sorry, left out tons of detail. if i mount the hdd in virtualbox and install to it, can i use it on a physical machine?
[00:24] <SailorMoon> wanna install ubuntu with no risk and without rebooting :P
[00:25] <vincentS> SailorMoon, sounds like yes aslong as you configure the bootloader on the right disk
[00:26] <RoBoRooT>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[00:26] <sam1> that's rude
[00:26] <Duality> what is rude ?
[00:28] <veryhappy> sam1: sorry what did i miss? what's rude?
[00:31] <veryhappy> oh my gosh this channel seems to sleep
[00:31] <SailorMoon> lol
[00:32] <SailorMoon> it used to be crazy active
[00:32] <veryhappy> well that's not really helpful
[00:32] <veryhappy> ok well, i got a question: is there any possibility to synchronize my home directory + files of /opt, my configurations and update-alternatives-settings?
[00:32] <drags> not surprising that a community channel is relatively quiet on a Friday evening.. folks are allowed to have lives outside of linux :)
[00:33] <veryhappy> yeae but that doesn't really help me right now, doesn't it?
[00:35] <bekks> veryhappy: Yes, there are chances. Just use one of the various tools, like rsync, cp, unison, etc.
[00:36] <veryhappy> bekks: hi bekks ;), well i want to sync all the stuff that i already have set up so i could save time
[00:36] <bekks> veryhappy: Synchronize with what?
[00:37] <veryhappy> bekks: sorry, i wanna sync my notebook with my other pc
[00:37] <bekks> veryhappy: Then just use one of the tools mentioned above.
[00:38] <bekks> veryhappy: I'd suggest using unison.
[00:38] <veryhappy> unison, does it come with a frontend?
[00:38] <veryhappy> or is it only text mode
[00:39] <bekks> veryhappy: I dont know, I never needed a GUI for it :)
[00:39] <veryhappy> bekks: how long are you using linux?
[00:39] <bekks> veryhappy: Hmmm. Since about mid 90s, I think.
[00:40] <veryhappy> then you must be at least 30 :)
[00:40] <bekks> veryhappy: This turns out to be social engineering now ;)
[00:40] <veryhappy> :D
[00:40] <veryhappy> social engineering nice term
[00:41] <s00pcan> any issues with unison? never heard of it before
[00:42] <veryhappy> well let's see
[00:42] <s00pcan> e.g. I have a notes file that I want to sync to two computers
[00:43] <veryhappy> bekks: yea, comes with a frontend
[00:43] <bekks> veryhappy: Didnt even know that :)
[00:43] <veryhappy> bekks: well now you know, right?
[00:44] <bekks> Yes, noted :)
[00:44] <usr13> s00pcan: ntfs
[00:45] <usr13> s00pcan: Correction: nfs
[00:45] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[00:45] <usr13> (slip of the keyboard/brain
[00:46] <leptone> lets say i have one window/app taking up more than half my screen on the right side. is there a way to drag a different window to the left edge and have it resize to the available area instead of the entire left half of the screen?
[00:46] <ovidiu-florin> my Dell touchpad is not detecteed by kubuntu. xinput list sees it as a PS/1 Generic mouse. What can I do?
[00:46] <s00pcan> drag a window? I stopped doing that a year ago
[00:47] <usr13> s00pcan:  NFS allows file sharing between systems
[00:47] <leptone> s00pcan, why? i love that feature.
[00:48] <leptone> s00pcan, what do you do instead?
[00:48] <s00pcan> that's fine but I got tired of doing it, so now I use tiling window managers / divvy
[00:49] <s00pcan> almost all of the time all I want is either half screen or full screen windows
[00:50] <mephisto___> hello!
[00:50] <mephisto___> I'm trying to rsync a partition to another pc, many examples suggest rsync -aAXv, shouldn't we add -l and -r for symlinks and recursive respectively?
[00:51] <usr13>  mephisto___ http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/storage/8200-back-up-like-an-expert-with-rsync
[00:51] <kbchurch> Is there a channel for 13.04?
[00:51] <usr13> !beta | kbchurch
[00:51] <Mesmaroth> Hello
[00:51] <usr13> !13.04 | kbchurch
[00:52] <mephisto___> usr13, thanks a lot man! :)
[00:52] <usr13> NP
[00:54] <aaas> im having same problem as this (http://goo.gl/8yw7n)  installed 3.7 kernel, some headers seem to be missing from the ubuntu ppas.  Did I miss some step?  If not, where can I find these 3.7 headers (well at least the dvb headers)? (the link given in the thread is down).
[00:54] <web_> Is there a way for admin to connect to audio stream of a user?
[00:54] <web_> I used to use padevchooser but it's no longer avail for Ubuntu.
[00:55] <leptone> s00pcan, wow that awesome! this guy is running it as an application: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F_zd51jNSs are you in this environment all the time?
[00:55] <web_> I there some kind of file I can connect to?  A manual way?
[00:55] <OerHeks> aaas installing a kernel outside the official repositorys is not supported.
[00:55] <aaas> OerHeks would you happen to know where kernel sources are?
[00:55] <aaas> well headers
[00:56] <dr_willis> !headers
[00:56] <Jmaster> what I do in ubuntu?
[00:56] <aaas> well link to the headers i mean
[00:56] <OerHeks> aaas if they are not available in the kernel ppa, i don't know
[00:56] <aaas> OerHeks ok thanks
[00:56] <sam1> would cp be faster than copy and paste in nautilus?
[00:57] <dr_willis> sam1 i doubt if any speed differance3s will be noticeable
[00:57] <usr13> sam1: prolly the same
[00:57] <OerHeks> aaas, usually " sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)  " would pick them up
[00:58] <sam1> 2.3 MB/s, wtf
[00:58] <usr13> sam1: Process won't differ, it will only matter if you are faster at negotiating the keboard or the mouse ;)
[00:58] <aaas> OerHeks yeah since I'm dong it through the ppa (to fix a bug with my ethernet) they seem to be missing ...either a design change, or a bad package, not sure...maybe ill look around kernel.org
[00:59] <sam1> what's good with nautilus is that you get a loadbar, even though it doesn't seem accurate
[01:01] <leptone> lets say i have one window/app taking up more than half my screen on the right side. is there a way to drag a different window to the left edge and have it resize to the available area instead of the entire left half of the screen?
[01:02] <s00pcan> leptone: I use xmonad
[01:02] <s00pcan> leptone: oh that video is on macos. yeah there I use divvy, which is awesome
[01:03] <fvox> oi
[01:03] <fvox> help my ubuntu
[01:04] <dr_willis> details help us help you.
[01:06] <leptone> s00pcan, this looks like a great solution. i dont fully understand it tho. are you using unity desktop?
[01:09] <veryhappy> thanks guys take care
[01:12] <Jmaster> what I do in ubuntu?
[01:15] <newbism> MAAS is ruby?
[01:15] <OerHeks> Metal as a service
[01:16] <newbism> oh boy
[01:16] <Titanoum> well, I sell service as a service
[01:16] <chucktesta`> ^ÂÊÎÔÛâêîôûĈĉĜĝĤĥĴĵŜŝŴŵŶŷˆ̭̂᷍ḒḓḘḙḼḽṊṋṰṱṶṷẐẑẤấẦầẨẩẪẫẬậẾếỀềỂểỄễỆệỐốỒồỔổỖỗỘộ⨣⨶⩯ꞈ＾󠁞
[01:16] <OerHeks> newbism, see http://maas.ubuntu.com/ or http://www.greenhills.co.uk/2012/04/25/metal-as-a-service.html
[01:17] <newbism> Titanoum:  thats pretty much what every single oem does already
[01:18] <chucktesta`> ^ÂÊÎÔÛâêîôûĈĉĜĝĤĥĴĵŜŝŴŵŶŷˆ̭̂᷍ḒḓḘḙḼḽṊṋṰṱṶṷẐẑẤấẦầẨẩẪẫẬậẾếỀềỂểỄễỆệỐốỒồỔổỖỗỘộ⨣⨶⩯ꞈ＾󠁞
[01:18] <newbism> OerHeks: yes ive seen that. was wondering what its written in, ruby, python, perl, php, visual basic, c, c++, assembly?
[01:18] <newbism> raw binary?
[01:20] <newbism> looks like django
[01:20] <newbism> python
[01:20] <newbism> great
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[01:21] <Jmaster> I loosing my brain
[01:21] <newbism> Jmaster:  yes
[01:28] <dr_willis> we agree with you...
[01:28] <nerder> hello
[01:35] <Fudge> what is latest pulse in quantal?  1:2.1-0ubuntu4
[01:39] <OerHeks> !info pulseaudio
[01:43] <kbchurch> I have a question involving 13.04, but could not get into the ubuntu+1 channel earlier.
[01:43] <newbism> I setup maas for dhcp/dns maas-cli maas nodes accept-all, it returned [] .. I booted a node and it is sitting at login as maas-enlisting-node yet in the web maas gui there are 0 nodes?
[01:43] <OerHeks> kbchurch, you might need to register your name
[01:43] <OerHeks> !register
[01:45] <kbchurch> Unity disappeared after a kernel update via the update service... not reinstalling again until I figure out what's going on.
[01:47] <Fudge> thankks OerHeks
[01:49] <dr_willis> kbchurch:  let us guess.. you login and the desktop shows a wallpaper but not the left side launcher panel.. terminal works on alt-ctrl-t. but has no titlebar/buttons....
[01:50] <IdleOne> !+1
[01:50] <kbchurch> I have it auto log.. nothing from Unity on the desktop.. right click brings up the menu to change desktop and so on..
[01:51] <dr_willis> well for starters disable the annoying auto login stuff
[01:51] <dr_willis> it just makes it harrder to trouble shoot.
[01:51] <kbchurch> I can tell the aspect ratio of the display is off, things are squished, I'm guessing it's running at 1024x768
[01:51] <dr_willis> i think its a setting in the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf file
[01:52] <kbchurch> For the lack of desktop or auto-login?
[01:52] <dr_willis> auto login is just annoying
[01:52] <dr_willis> and makes trouble shooting harder
[01:53] <kbchurch> I don't think I can get to that, though I think I can start from an earlier kernel
[01:54] <dr_willis> you can use the console and alter the file.. or just do a 'service lightdm restart'  but that will once again auto login.... i belive
[01:54] <dr_willis> testing with an earlier kernel is a good test also. if earlier kernels work.. thats  a point to make note of.
[01:55] <dr_willis> also making a new user. and seeing if it works for them is another good test, if a newly made user works.. that points to a setting file issue with the problem user
[01:55]  * dr_willis needs to make a flow chart someday of trouble shooting steps
[01:57] <ClientAlive> Ok, so this is just the first place I thought to come to an mention this. (Since Ubuntu totally rocks!!). So you know how linux folks are always complaining and talking about how they wish they could have netflix with linux? Well, I just found out about some kind of open source code for netflix. Maybe it could form the basis for a linux way to connect to it (other than with wine I mean).
[01:57] <ClientAlive> You can see it mentioned here: http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/14/netflix-cloud-prize-offers-over-100-000-in-rewards/
[01:57] <SailorMoon> isnt netflix on a linux distro already?
[01:57] <ClientAlive> And I think this: https://github.com/Netflix/Cloud-Prize  <- is that open source code
[01:58] <fayalom> ok
[01:59] <fayalom> hello
[01:59] <ClientAlive> SailorMoon: perhaps, but the only thing I've heard of is running the regular in wine (which can be a security concern)
[01:59] <AureliusR> Well, Netflix IS already onUbuntu
[01:59] <AureliusR> not officially, but it works fine, to my knowledge
[01:59] <kbchurch> Well, choose the previous kernel, but not much has changed. It's the right resolution, but there is no Unity
[02:00] <kbchurch> terminal comes up
[02:00] <dr_willis> well - netflix  works..   'fine' can be a relative term. ;)
[02:01] <AureliusR> on my setup, which is a few years old now, it works great, no lagging, buffers well, great quality -- what more would you want?
[02:01] <dr_willis> netflix on ubuntu works deccently well for me and the cartoons/anime i watch. ive heard it can have issues with HD video. It is running in   a sort of complex wine/firefox/setup
[02:01] <OerHeks> Netflix is available in the USA, am i right ?
[02:01] <dr_willis> ive definatly seen a lot of reports of very laggy video and sound sync issues from people
[02:02] <dr_willis> OerHeks:  i think it is expanding to the UK soon.
[02:02] <AureliusR> probably because their hardware couldn't support it anyway... I think that if they tested it in Windows they'd have similar problems
[02:02] <dr_willis> but its USA only for now..  perhaps in canada also?
[02:02] <AureliusR> its also available in Canada
[02:02] <tyyhzh> hello
[02:03] <tyyhzh> hello
[02:04] <dr_willis> Hmm.. wonder if the netflix in wine thing would actually get amazon prime working for me onubuntu..
[02:04] <cvs> sudo apt get ubuntu is the BEST :)
[02:05] <dr_willis> you have a support question tyyhzh ?
[02:05] <cvs>  tyyhzh what?
[02:06] <cvs> dr_willis,
[02:06] <tyyhzh> hello
[02:06] <tyyhzh> !!!
[02:06] <cvs> not sure about a work around for nexflix dr_
[02:06] <maxped> how can i determine if i have the kernel headers for my currnet kernal inastalled?
[02:06] <cvs> dr_willis, ^^
[02:06] <newbism> so many bugs
[02:07] <cvs> wow i never been in a irc with so many
[02:07] <dr_willis> cvs:  netflix works on ubuntu with a special setup. amazon prime howevver..  is being a pain due to flash issues.
[02:07] <dr_willis> !netflix
[02:08] <Kion> hola guapa
[02:08] <Kion> como estas?
[02:08] <dr_willis> !es
[02:08] <Kion> sorry guys, wrong window
[02:08] <cvs> Kion, wow there hispanics here
[02:09] <cvs> Hay mujeres aqui Kion ?
[02:09] <cvs> O_O
[02:09] <cvs> regla #1 todas las mujeres son hombres
[02:09] <OerHeks> cvs english only please
[02:09] <cvs> dr_willis, if you have android with HDMI connected to TV nexflix solve friend
[02:10] <dr_willis> making me hungry for a run to Taco Bell.... ;P
[02:10] <dr_willis> cvs:  i have dozens of devices that can do netflix.
[02:10] <cvs> wut? OerHeks your a OP here neat
[02:10] <dr_willis> cvs:  the issue is with amazon prime.
[02:10] <AureliusR> dr_willis: did you see maxped's question above? how to tell if you have headers installed?
[02:10] <cvs> I see awww
[02:10] <cvs> How about a ROKU box dr_willis ?
[02:11] <cvs> remember OerHeks ububtu=humanity last time i check human does not equal to english
[02:11] <dr_willis> cvs:  got 3 of them... and a boxeebox.. and a o!play and a WDTVLive box.
[02:11] <dr_willis> !headers
[02:11] <dr_willis> try to reinstall them and see if it says they are allreadi installed ;) is one way
[02:12] <cvs> also to ubottu
[02:12] <dr_willis> cvs:  ubottu isent human,  :) its a bot.
[02:12] <dataman> maxped: take a look in /usr/src/ and match up for a directory that matches your kernel (uname -a)
[02:13] <cvs> awww yea im new here thanks dr_willis
[02:13] <cvs> man i never seen so many in an IRC
[02:13] <dr_willis> so many? this is a rather slow night.
[02:13] <dr_willis> seen 3000+ in here on release day
[02:13] <maxped> dr_willis: thanks
[02:13] <cvs> dr_willis, the irc i come from has maybe 100 tops its a trading were you make money from google adsense
[02:13] <dr_willis> with 80% of them asking 'is it out yet.....'
[02:13] <maxped> dataman: i will give that a try
[02:14] <Neutron01_> hi, How can i change ubuntu to Gnome?
[02:14] <Neutron01_> unity to gnome
[02:14] <cvs> <alababi> sup cvs?
[02:14] <cvs> <cvs> a new guy got banned
[02:14] <cvs> <cvs> O_O
[02:14] <cvs> <cvs> also i join an irc with over 5K people wow alababi
[02:14] <cvs> <alababi> what this irc is about?
[02:14] <FloodBot1> cvs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <cvs> <cvs> ubunti one
[02:14] <dr_willis> Neutron01_:  install the gnome-shell pacckage if you want gnome shell
[02:14] <dr_willis> !gnome
[02:14] <dataman> maxpd: Another thing would be just to do a 'find / | grep kernel_number'
[02:14] <Neutron01_> dr_willis, thanks
[02:14] <cvs> wow you know about gnomes dr_willis ?
[02:15] <dataman> You might want to do that as root to prevent errors from directories you don't have access to though.
[02:15] <dr_willis> saw where that ubuntu-gnome variant is becomming an offical version - thats  nifty.
[02:15] <Neutron01_> thanks ubottu,
[02:15] <Neutron01_> i Heared ubuntu, is shifting to gnome?
[02:16] <dr_willis> Neutron01_:  Unity is allready using Gnome3
[02:16] <Neutron01_> don't know exactly, their is new release coming soon of gnome?
[02:16] <dr_willis> 3.6 of gnome is out now.. 3.8 is in the works..
[02:16] <dr_willis> 13.04 is not using 3.8 but  theres ppas for 3.8
[02:17] <dr_willis> gnome is progressing along at a fairly steady rate these days it seems...
[02:17] <Neutron01_> unity is using gnome3? means is it implimented above the gnome
[02:17] <dr_willis> !unity
[02:18] <dr_willis> unity is a plugin for compiz - and they use gnome3 underneeth
[02:18] <cvs> <Neutron01_>  i think ubuntu will relase another distro with gnome 3.0 they wont stop using unity
[02:18] <dr_willis> the gnome-shell  ubuntu variant is becoming an offically supported reelase from the blogs ive read.. so theres no need to stop unity.
[02:19] <Neutron01_> hm, dats cool
[02:19] <dr_willis> and their roadmap/reports/plans defainatly dont show they plan on dropping unity
[02:19] <dr_willis> unity on pc, tablet, tv, and phone.... is ttheir goal it seems
[02:20] <dr_willis> they do seem to be planning on using QT/qml  - so that could be read as them doing the opposite of what youve been saying.. ie:   they may be dropping gnome. ;)
[02:20] <cvs> i go to omgubuntu.uk
[02:21] <Neutron01_> i read that now there is ubuntu mobile also in market, i don't know whether its available in my country or not
[02:21] <dr_willis> Im stillnto clear on what qt/qml is.. but ive not had time to read much this last month
[02:21] <cvs> i want to buy a firefox and a ubuntu phone today
[02:21] <cvs> i pay 300 for it
[02:21] <dr_willis> Emm.. they dont exist as far as i know.. yet.
[02:21] <OerHeks> !phone
[02:22] <Neutron01_> firefox also wow
[02:22] <dataman> dr_willis: qml is a markup language for qt quick.
[02:22] <cvs> thanks OerHeks but i want to BUY it :D
[02:22] <dataman> dr_willis: qt is a framework for developing applications.
[02:22] <dr_willis> dataman:  yea. thats what i figured .... xml for qt  .  not sure what qt quick is however. ;)  im out of the loop on new sstuff
[02:22] <OerHeks> cvs, that is offtopic here, keep this channel free for ubuntu support
[02:23] <dr_willis> i recall the good old days of QT vs gtk flame wars..
[02:23] <dataman> dr_willis: qt_quick is another frameowkr
[02:23] <Neutron01_> Thanks for help guys :)
[02:23] <cvs> aww i cant talk about how much i love ubuntu?
[02:23] <dr_willis> sort of a QT light/variant ?
[02:23] <cvs> i got a pentium 4
[02:24] <dr_willis> cvs:  you have an actual support question? if not. you can chit-chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:24] <dataman> dr_willis: not sure.  I've not done a lot of dev work in years.  Been doing database for the last 10+ this time.
[02:24] <dataman> And most of the developers I've worked with have been java.
[02:24] <cvs> well besides how to get ubuntu on my WEbos phone
[02:25] <dr_willis> dataman:  ;) i barely even touch computers as part of my real job. Just a hobby these days. so i dont keep up either.
[02:25] <dr_willis> Linux is definatly progressing along  interesting lines  of growth these days.
[02:25] <dataman> dr_willis: Especially in the data center (arm-based) and tablet.
[02:26] <dr_willis> Yep. got a Nexus7 here now.   not tried ubuntu on it.. yet.
[02:28] <unraised> Would someone help me troubleshoot network connection? I'm running a minimal headless Ubuntu 12.10 and I don't know why the network connection isn't working...
[02:28] <dataman> unraised: Are you on the box now?
[02:29] <mtadyshak> How do you minimize all windows on Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:29] <unraised> Yes. Ifconfig only shows lo, no eth0.
[02:29] <dataman> unraised: What does cat /etc/network/interfaces show?
[02:29] <dr_willis> mtadyshak:  if you press and hold the super key - it shows  a shortcut list.
[02:29] <mtadyshak> What's a "super-key"?
[02:30] <unraised> auto lo \n iface lo inet loopback \n\n auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:30] <dataman> mtadyshak: It might be the windows key on a windows keyboard.
[02:30] <dr_willis> the key  that MS decided to force on people then stole the name and called it the windows key...
[02:30] <dr_willis> ;)
[02:30] <dataman> ;)
[02:30] <dataman> unraised: It appears it's defined.
[02:30] <dataman> unraised: Do you have a link light on the back of the system?
[02:30] <mtadyshak> Hey!  That's cool!
[02:30] <cvs> say NO to mono!!!!!!!
[02:31] <dr_willis> they REALLY need to steal  the android 'tutorial overlay screen' feature from many android apps...
[02:31] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to run GIMP on Ubuntu 12.10, but I'm getting the error message "gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: gtk_box_new".  Any tips?
[02:31] <dr_willis> some of the first things unity should mention is the super key shortcut listing. and what the hud and dash are.
[02:31] <dataman> dr_willis: I agree!
[02:31] <unraised> dataman: Thanks. That's why this is confusing me. ifup eth0 says ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[02:31] <dataman> An "introduction" to the UI.
[02:32] <cvs> BlueProtoman, why use such OLD ubuntu?
[02:32] <dr_willis> even on android.. im finding im consttantly 'discovering' non-obvious jestures/features for apps...
[02:32] <cvs> update
[02:32] <dataman> unraised: If "ifconfig eth0" doesn't show it...it didn't get an IP address.
[02:32] <dataman> Or...
[02:32] <dataman> Some other problem.
[02:32] <dr_willis> often by accident...  i sneezed.. it dialed my mom.. what did i swipe/long press/shake that time...
[02:32] <BlueProtoman> cvs: 12.10 is the latest stable version!
[02:32] <danny__> Hello, ubuntu! Something really interesting happen to me, I realized I can't install shit on my shared hosting server and I need some help
[02:32] <BlueProtoman> 13.04  doesn't come out until April.
[02:32] <dataman> You might also check "dmesg | grep eth" and see if anything funn comes out.
[02:33] <cvs> I run beta all the way
[02:33] <cvs> im in lubuntu also
[02:33] <dr_willis> 13.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[02:33] <BlueProtoman> dr_willis: That's not what I'm here for.
[02:33] <danny__> My server runs on ubuntu and I want to be able to extract multiple types of archives but like I said I can't install anything
[02:33] <dr_willis> and you definatly dont want to be using it for production systems at this time..
[02:33] <unraised> dataman: It's actually running in qemu (system emulator). From the qemu monitor (debugger) the command "info network" shows the mac address and net=10.0.2.0 of the ethernet controller. So i believe the constitutes a "link light" from qemu's perspective. A normal live cd is able to establish an ip address.
[02:34] <danny__> is there a way to run something on shell script
[02:34] <BlueProtoman> I'm here because my install of GIMP is broken and, as usual, no one seems to know why.
[02:34] <dr_willis> danny__:  i think the unp program is  a python script. or was it perl.... you could find its source and just copy it to your users home/bin
[02:34] <cvs> BlueProtoman, remove and install again?
[02:35] <BlueProtoman> cvs: Been there, done that, didn't help.
[02:35] <cvs> sudo app purge
[02:35] <cvs> sudo app remove
[02:35] <holstein> BlueProtoman: try as another user.. remove your config from the equation
[02:35] <dataman> unraised: Ok.  that's not what I was expecting.
[02:35] <dr_willis> i would check for that exact error message on askubuntu.com - there may be some one else thats mentioned it
[02:35] <holstein> BlueProtoman: your user config
[02:35] <dr_willis> cvs:  err... your ubuntu skills seem very lacking...
[02:35] <dataman> It has a valid IP address on your network (10.x)?  Or is that NAT'd?
[02:36] <dr_willis> testing as another user would be a good test to see if gimp does work for them..   that erorr message is a bit on the  obscure side
[02:36] <danny__> dr_willis, does it have a website?
[02:36] <dataman> unraised: My system at home is running KVM/Qemu and on my HOST there is a network assigned.  Could be something like virbr0/1
[02:37] <BlueProtoman> dr_willis: Nope, not on AskUbuntu.
[02:37] <dr_willis> danny__:  no idea. ive never really looked.
[02:37] <holstein> BlueProtoman: how is it as a different user? or with a fresh .config file?
[02:37] <dr_willis> danny__:  you could look at the contents of the unp deb file
[02:37] <cvs> well there the ubuntu app store dr_willis remove button= DONE
[02:37] <mtadyshak> ow do you setup a screen saver on Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:37] <unraised> dataman : I'm not quit sure what the qemu monitor is reporting, exactly. I think we can assume that the connection is established, however. I'm most likely missing some sort of configuration since this is a very minimal system. I built the rootfs with debootstrap.
[02:37] <BlueProtoman> holstein: Where is the .config file?  Is it for GIMP, or for my entire account?
[02:37] <danny__> dr_willis, I can't use sudo or apt-get on my server so I don't know how to really get unp on my server
[02:37] <dr_willis> cvs:  remove/reinstalling apps in linux/ubuntu is not the 'super fix' that is so common in windows..
[02:38] <holstein> BlueProtoman: what i usually suggest, and did above, is tring as a newly created user.. then, you test gimp as that new user, and go from there.. if gimp works as new user, then the issue is in your users gimp config
[02:38] <danny__> dr_willis they have limited restrictions
[02:38] <dataman> unraised: What is the problem you're having?  Can you ping out to your local network (i.e., the host it's on)?
[02:38] <dr_willis> danny__:  find the unp deb package. and  look in it.. and extract its contents to your home perhaps?
[02:38] <dr_willis> of course unp just uses the installed archiver tools...
[02:39] <cvs> i hate when i install virtualbox
[02:39] <cvs> always have problems with USB
[02:39] <cvs> please linux make it more easy
[02:39] <holstein> BlueProtoman: i have ~/.gimp2.6 ..thats what i would remove
[02:39] <dr_willis> unp is apaerently written in perl from what i just googled.
[02:40] <danny__> what extensions does tar support?
[02:40] <BlueProtoman> holstein: I logged in as a guest and tried GIMP.  Same error.
[02:40] <cvs> I hate TARS they useless
[02:40] <holstein> BlueProtoman: what is the error?
[02:40] <dr_willis> the tar binary just passes the files along to whatever archiver tools out there. youd have to check man tar to see what it works with. oryou can setup pipes to untar other types of archives
[02:40] <unraised> dataman: No I can't ping to or from the headless box since the ethernet card does not have an ip address yet. I'm connecting to it over serial port. I would like to debug this issue at a low level. I've already determined that linux is recognizing the ethernet card. lspci shows  that "Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor RTL-8029(AS)". What would the next troubleshooting step be. Do I need to check if there is a driver for this
[02:40] <holstein> BlueProtoman: i would still try removing your config..
[02:41] <dataman> Hmm.
[02:41] <holstein> BlueProtoman: did you add a PPA?
[02:41] <BlueProtoman> holstein: gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: gtk_box_new
[02:41] <BlueProtoman> holstein: Tried removing my config, no luck.
[02:41] <dataman> unraised: I think the issue might be related to the virutal network defined on the host.
[02:41] <BlueProtoman> As for a PPA?  Yes, I think so.
[02:41] <danny__> With what build in commands for extracting archives does ubuntu come with?
[02:42] <dataman> The host should be able to ping it, and it should be able to ping the IP address of the host (the 10.0.x.x address on the host side)
[02:42] <holstein> BlueProtoman: if you did, remove the ppa version. you can go to synaptic and step down to the official ubuntu version
[02:42] <dr_willis> danny__:  hmm.. personally i use 'mc' to view/extract the contents of .deb files in the past.
[02:42] <MisterLizard> new linux user trying to replicate windows' win+p function to swtich monitor configs on the fly. I've got it sort-of working with randr and disper but would like to have it on universal hotkeys. Any ideas?
[02:42] <BlueProtoman> holstein: Oh, I thought you meant any PPA.  I have other PPAs, but none for GIMP.
[02:43] <cvs> PPA= useless
[02:43] <holstein> BlueProtoman: for what? anything that would break gimp?
[02:43] <dr_willis> danny__: the default archiver tools i imagine would be gzip and  a few others.. with your custom setup. we dont really know what it may include
[02:43] <dr_willis> cvs:   please stop with your useless comments.
[02:43] <danny__> dr_willis, since I can't have utility archive manager like 7zip on my linux, I am trying to find all the build in commands that linux comes with. Do you know how I can find that?
[02:43] <BlueProtoman> holstein: Where can I access my list of PPAs in plain text?
[02:43] <c4pt> http://www.ebay.com/itm/181102849076?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649
[02:43] <holstein> cvs: you dont have to use them.. some folks like to use them to add functionality, or newer versions.. feel free to /join the OT channel and rant
[02:44] <mtadyshak> How do you setup a screen saver on Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:44] <dr_willis> danny__:   gzip is most likely the one you should be learning to use. perhaps b2zip
[02:44] <holstein> mtadyshak: check the menu for screensaver
[02:46] <Guest29402> hi
[02:46] <unraised> dataman: Thanks. I'm looking into it right now. I'll get back to you soon.
[02:46] <holstein> BlueProtoman: i would look at my sources list
[02:47] <dr_willis> danny__:  if you just want an easy way to extract archives unp handles that.. but it still needs the proper archive tools installed.
[02:47] <BlueProtoman> holstein: And do what with it?
[02:47] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unp/2.0~pre7+nmu1
[02:47] <Guest29402> Hello
[02:47] <mtadyshak> 10.04 had System > Preferences > Screen saver.  I don't see that on 12.04.  App search finds nothing.
[02:48] <dr_willis> mtadyshak:  the gnome devs like to cut down screensaver settings.. im not sure theres any in gnome3 at all these days
[02:48] <holstein> BlueProtoman: look for ppas in the sources plain text list.. getting back to gimp.. i would test different versions
[02:48] <holstein> !sources
[02:49] <dr_willis> if you really love screensavers - most people install the xscreensavers packages and remove the gnome screensaver stuff
[02:49] <danny__> dr_willis, I am on server through an ssh client and its acting like a bitch I cant run shell scripts or install anything. I just looked up unp and it is only available through yum or apt-get. Even if I download it and extract it on my ssh server I wouldn't have the permission to run a shell script.
[02:49] <holstein> mtadyshak: http://www.howtogeek.com/114027/how-to-add-screensavers-to-ubuntu-12.04/ is from "ubuntu 12.04 screensavers" search
[02:49] <dr_willis> danny__:  i just posted a url to the source archive
[02:50] <dr_willis> danny__:  its a perl script. If your server dosent let you do common stuff like run scripts.. theres not a lot we can do for you
[02:50] <dr_willis> Im not even sure HOW you would disable running of shell scripts..
[02:50] <mtadyshak> Thank-you!
[02:50] <dr_willis> danny__:  what shell are you using?   echo $SHELL
[02:51] <BlueProtoman> holstein: I have no idea what I'm doing.  I have no idea what could have broken my GIMP.  I am lost.  Please help me.
[02:51] <danny__> dr_willis: /bin/bash
[02:51] <dataman> unraised: Sorry.  Debugging fs problems at work..I'm back.  Where are we at?
[02:51] <dr_willis> danny__:  at least you are not using rbash ;)
[02:51] <Kion> BlueProtoman: try calling gimp from a terminal to read what error message you get.
[02:52] <danny__> dr_willis: I called up GoDaddy where my shared hosting is, and they claimed that they removed all commands that can cause problems to other shared servers
[02:52] <BlueProtoman> Kion: I already have.  "gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: gtk_box_new"
[02:52] <danny__> dr_willis: I can run perl however if I have a perl command right??
[02:52] <dr_willis> danny__:  sounds like you need to switch  companies..  if they cant be more specific then that.
[02:52] <Kion> BlueProtoman: Well.. what if you uninstall and then reinstall gimp?
[02:53] <BlueProtoman> Kion: I tried that too.
[02:53] <Kion> BlueProtoman: I dont really know what that is
[02:53] <dr_willis> danny__:   if perl is installed you should be able to run perl scripts
[02:53] <unraised> dataman: I'm trying to determine if its a host network issue. My current method is to boot a live cd via qemu and see if the network works. You wouldn't happen to know the yaboot equivalent command to pass to the kernel "init=/bin/sh" do you?
[02:53] <BlueProtoman> Kion: Neither do I, or anyone else, and that's my problem!
[02:53] <danny__> dr_willis: I wouldn't blame them, they said I have to have dedicated server to run all this stuff
[02:53] <holstein> BlueProtoman: what operating system are you using?
[02:53] <dataman> unraised: nope. Unfortunately
[02:53] <dr_willis> danny__:  err... Digital Ocean  has no such silly limits...
[02:53] <dataman> unraised: The question is, what does the host have for networks?
[02:53] <danny__> dr_willis: :D
[02:54] <sam1> I NEED HELP
[02:54] <dr_willis> danny__:  im not sure what your  company is actually provideing you.....
[02:54] <holstein> BlueProtoman: keep it constructive please, and the volunteers can better assist you.. no one knows anything right now.. we are troubleshooting
[02:54] <holstein> BlueProtoman: what operating system are you using?
[02:54] <dataman> BlueProtoman: What version of gimp?  I missed that.
[02:54] <danny__> dr_willis: I will take a look at unp and see if I can run the perl script
[02:54] <BlueProtoman> holstein: Ubuntu 12.10.
[02:54] <holstein> BlueProtoman: stock ubuntu 12.10? 32bit? what ppa's?
[02:55] <dr_willis> danny__:  i dont see how they can be blocking bash scripts either.. since when bash starts up - it runs several scripts..
[02:55] <sam1> i NEED HELP
[02:55] <BlueProtoman> dataman: 2.8.2
[02:55] <dr_willis> danny__:  then again . im not clear on what 'shared hosting;' is either... Digital Ocean gives me a nice little virtual server i can play with.
[02:55] <holstein> BlueProtoman: open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:55] <dr_willis> sam1 and we need details.
[02:55] <BlueProtoman> holstein: 12.10 64-bit.  Where can I get my list of PPAs in plain text so I can pastebin it?
[02:55] <holstein> !ask | sam1 and stop with the caps
[02:56] <holstein> BlueProtoman: the sources list has a list of your sources.. its plain text
[02:56] <dr_willis> ppas are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ one ppa per set of files...
[02:56] <sam1> I left my room and when I came back, the screens had turned off (although I had disabled this feature before), when I tried to get out of it it was all black
[02:56] <sam1> now I'm inside tty1
[02:57] <holstein> sam1: sudo reboot
[02:57] <sam1> and my X cursor is there
[02:57] <BlueProtoman> holstein: Right, but I don't plan on typing out every source the Ubuntu Software Center tells me I have.  Where can I find the text file?
[02:57] <unraised> dataman: I'm typing in this IRC from host right now (internet is working). If you're familiar with qemu, I'm using user-mode networking, which means only user privileges (no TUN/TAP). I'm not really sure how qemu implements this, but hopefully the live cd test will confirm it's doing what I expect it's doing.
[02:57] <sam1> I've got 300 GB of files being copied
[02:57] <sam1> I can't do that right now
[02:57] <dr_willis>  BlueProtoman   ppas are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ one ppa per set of files...
[02:57] <dataman> unraised: But you should still have a vibr* network with an IP address.
[02:57] <dataman> If it's NAT you can't ping the VM, but from the VM you can ping the host.
[02:57] <BlueProtoman> dr_willis: Thank you.
[02:57] <dr_willis> sam1:  monitor the system with top - see if its still copying...
[02:58] <sam1> that's what I'm doing
[02:58] <sam1> but this isn't the first time it happens
[02:58] <sam1> and I'd like to watch porn right now
[02:58] <sam1> before going to bed
[02:58] <holstein> !ot | sam1
[02:58] <goodtime> I can't get Muon Update Manager to install any updates.  It lists them but won't actually install them.  Does anyone know what I should do to fix it?
[02:59] <dataman> unraised: Hmm.  Might be a lxc-br* network too
[02:59] <goodtime> i meen its all debian based so i asked
[02:59] <holstein> sam1: wait for your files to move, and sudo reboot and come and ask for specifics on setting your screensaver/locking and refrain from OT chat here.. thanks
[02:59] <dataman> I can't tell on my home system (and I'm at work right now - I can only see the exposed networks)
[03:00] <holstein> goodtime: if its not ubuntu, we cant do much about it. i would use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:00] <goodtime> ok ty
[03:01] <dataman> unraised: I can't tell.  My KVM/Qemu system that I'm looking at is directly on my home network.  I think the 10.x.x.x network for your VM means it's being NATd.
[03:01] <unraised> dataman: You might have found the root of the problem. ls /dev/virb* and ls /dev/lxc-br* returned nothing.
[03:01] <dataman> Ahh..
[03:01] <dataman> Did you do a brctl add (network)
[03:02] <dataman> I think that's required.  But I'm not sure.
[03:02] <unraised> dataman: Yes I believe user-mode networking is natted.
[03:02] <BlueProtoman> holstein: PPAs.  http://pastebin.com/rYiZ808n
[03:02] <dataman> unraised: I might have found some help online for you.
[03:02] <holstein> BlueProtoman: i would try stepping down to 2.7 if its available and test
[03:03] <dataman> unraised: check en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU/Networking
[03:03] <BlueProtoman> holstein: What if I try to compile from source?
[03:03] <holstein> !natty
[03:03] <holstein> BlueProtoman: you have some conflicting PPA's there though.. that could be breaking anything.. you have 11.04 sources in your 12.10 install
[03:04] <BlueProtoman> holstein: Not all of them are enabled, though.
[03:04] <unraised> dataman: Thanks, I've been referencing that. Currently using user-mode, but I might try the others to see if it works.
[03:04] <holstein> BlueProtoman: if you have one big one enabled, that could be breaking lots of things
[03:04] <dataman> unraised: Good luck.  And make sure you document your config for next time.  That's the step *I* forget some days.
[03:05] <holstein> BlueProtoman: what would i do? backup and reinstall.. likely you will have other things breaking soon
[03:05] <danny__> dr_willis: U are a fucking genius man!
[03:05] <danny__> dr_willis: It worked like a charmmmm!
[03:05] <holstein> danny__: what the language please
[03:05] <holstein> whatch*
[03:05] <danny__> ok sorry mate
[03:05] <danny__> I am just excited
[03:05] <holstein> danny__: no worries :)
[03:06] <unraised> dataman: Thanks for all the help. Update on the live cd: eth0 is now listed under ifconfig, but has no ip address.
[03:06] <nightmorph> howdy, all. anyone know if it's possible to setup fontconfig to turn on antialias on just ONE particular font?
[03:06] <nightmorph> i've found a buncha articles for enabling/disabling antialiasing across all fonts, but nothing on whether there are fontconfig selectors to do the same to just specific fonts, like Helvetica
[03:06] <unraised> dataman: On live cd, /etc/networking/interfaces is missing eth0 entry. Any way to manually connect eth0?
[03:06] <dr_willis> danny__:  extacting arvhives is not all that hard. ;P
[03:06] <holstein> !ppa-purge | BlueProtoman or you can try purging ppas and clean up a bit
[03:06] <dataman> unraised: Yes, you can.  However, it may be defined by udev.
[03:07] <BlueProtoman> holstein: None of the old Natty PPAs are enabled.
[03:07] <sancris> how come unmounting ipod crashes comp[iz? 0.o
[03:07] <holstein> BlueProtoman: were they? were they purged? are any files still in use?
[03:07] <dataman> unraised: You can manually add values to /etc/network/interfaces, but that means you have things "hardcoded" to that.
[03:07] <danny__> dr_willis the perl script works amazing on my shared hosting. I just type: perl unp fileLocation and it extracts it
[03:07] <the_hydra> sancris: are you sure nothing is accessing the ipod?
[03:07] <BlueProtoman> holstein: They were not enabled.  They were left over from when I had 11.04.
[03:07] <dr_willis> danny__:  it really shouldent be too hard to figure out the right command to extract it...
[03:08] <holstein> BlueProtoman: you have an issue that i see other distros reporting to be caused by dependency versions
[03:08] <danny__> dr_willis thanks again good night
[03:08] <unraised> dataman: Tried ifconfig eth0 up. Didn't do the trick. eth0 is assigned an ipv6 address for some reason. No ipv4.
[03:08] <dr_willis> danny__:  make the perl script executable and put it in your users ~/bin directory and you can just do unp foo
[03:08] <holstein> BlueProtoman: did you downgrade gimp and test?
[03:08] <BlueProtoman> holstein: No, where can I get the older versions?
[03:08] <dataman> unraised: I think you have to do sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[03:08] <dataman> BUT
[03:08] <holstein> BlueProtoman: i usually just do it in synaptic, since its easy to see
[03:09] <sancris> the_hydra, my ipod 5th generation doesn't mount properly, then I right-clicked the icons in the launcher to unmount them and bang! compiz crashed
[03:09] <dataman> That may not work.  Not sure how it's configured.  You're kind of at the end of my knowledge.
[03:09] <dataman> unraised: You might try a different configuration, rather than user mode network.
[03:10] <unraised> dataman: Ok, thanks! I really appreciate your advice. I'll try to return the favor to someone else on here. See you around.
[03:10] <BlueProtoman> holstein: I don't see older versions of GIMP in Synaptic.
[03:10] <dataman> Pay it forward.  Now back to my database issues!  :D
[03:11] <zolom> Hi all, I'm trying to introduce a dependency for radeon so that the card can instead be bound to pciback for xen pci passthrough, as described here http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_PCI_Passthrough#Static_assignment_for_xen-pciback_module . I'm supposed to add a line (install radeon /sbin/modprobe pciback ; /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install radeon) to modprobe.conf, but there is none. Where can I append this instead? Ty
[03:11] <rodhash> Guys, I've just bought a Samsung 550p5c-ad1 which comes with Win8, how can I resize it to keep a dual-boot?
[03:11] <rodhash> Win8 has multiple partitions and I'm not sure how to do
[03:11] <holstein> BlueProtoman: maybe go for a newer one.. i never upgrade the OS like that.. i just fresh install.. is this literally the only issue you have?
[03:11] <goodtime> remove win8 lol
[03:11] <BlueProtoman> holstein: Yes.
[03:11] <holstein> BlueProtoman: what happens when you launch it from the terminal?
[03:11] <holstein> BlueProtoman: what errors.. pastebin that
[03:12] <BlueProtoman> holstein: We've been there already.  'gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: gtk_box_new
[03:12] <BlueProtoman> '
[03:12] <unraised> dataman: Quick success story: I got the network to work on the live cd by adding eth0 configuration to /etc/network/interfaces and running the command ifup eth0. Now I have an ipv4 address and can wget google.com. I'll try to transfer over to my headless install... Good luck with the databases.
[03:12] <holstein> BlueProtoman: you can just pastebin it.. or give me the error again
[03:12] <BlueProtoman> holstein: I just did!  "gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: gtk_box_new"
[03:12] <holstein> BlueProtoman: no need for "we've bin there already" though, im sure this could be frustrating for you, keep in mind, we are all volunteers here..
[03:12] <holstein> BlueProtoman: try the gimp support channels and email list as well
[03:13] <dataman> unraised: np.  Glad you had success.  We're in the middle of an int to bigint conversion.  Should run all night.
[03:13] <BlueProtoman> holstein: You're right.  I'm sorry.  And #gimp, as usual, is dead quiet.
[03:13] <BlueProtoman> holstein: Also, I forgot about the --verbose flag.  Pastebin coming up.
[03:13] <holstein> BlueProtoman: lets hope is juicy and helpful!
[03:13] <BlueProtoman> holstein: http://pastebin.com/90K7cJpb
[03:14] <usr13> BlueProtoman: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[03:14] <the_hydra> sancris: likely,  you need to do the unmount in the command line
[03:14] <BlueProtoman> usr13: 12.10
[03:14] <holstein> BlueProtoman: and you said you did reinstall? correct?
[03:14] <BlueProtoman> holstein: Yes.
[03:15] <sancris> the_hydra, oh...i see...thanks for the hint, eh
[03:15] <usr13> BlueProtoman: sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:16] <holstein> !info vala
[03:16] <yigal> I'm trying to get cellwriter to play nice with my wacom tablet, but I'm unable to get two strokes in for multi-stroke characters - apostrophe for example.  Ubuntu 12.10/cellwriter 1.3.4-1ubuntu1 any suggestions?
[03:16] <usr13> BlueProtoman: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-800019.html
[03:17] <yigal> I think I may have found the reason http://code.google.com/p/cellwriter/issues/detail?id=34
[03:17] <yigal> for my issue
[03:17] <holstein> BlueProtoman: i am seeing this http://newsodrome.com/hardware_news/the-gimp-2-8-opensuse-12-1-31253933 and wondering what the equivalent in ubuntu is.. valac-0.10 or something...
[03:17] <holstein> maybe just valac
[03:18] <the_hydra> sancris: hope that helps
[03:18] <usr13> But http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-800019.html is from 5 years ago
[03:18] <usr13> so I dono....
[03:18] <sancris> the_hydra, probably it will...I'll test it later
[03:19] <the_hydra> sancris: good luck
[03:20] <usr13> BlueProtoman: It appears that gimp works well for mostly every one lese, and so there is something particularly amiss with your system.  Is it fully updated?  (And apt works properly?)
[03:20] <BlueProtoman> usr13: Yes and yes.
[03:20] <usr13> *else (not lese).
[03:20] <holstein> BlueProtoman: are you reading that suse post? do you think vala is relevant?
[03:21] <BlueProtoman> holstein: What's vala>
[03:21] <BlueProtoman> *vala?
[03:21] <usr13> BlueProtoman: What ever is amiss appears to be in ~/.gimp
[03:21] <holstein> BlueProtoman: its a package name referenced in the link i gave to a suse post where, so far, that is the only exact same error message i find hen searching
[03:22] <holstein> when*
[03:22] <BlueProtoman> usr13: Removing ~/.gimp did not do anything.
[03:22] <usr13> BlueProtoman: Ok. You just answered what would have been my next question.  .......stumped......
[03:22] <torsaur> Hello. Is this the right place to ask a question about ubuntu installation?
[03:22] <the_hydra> BlueProtoman: try to remove gimp and then install again. Probably there were missing dependency
[03:23] <holstein> i might try a ppa version, as long as i was comfotable purging http://www.noobslab.com/2012/08/install-latest-gimp-282-in-ubuntu.html
[03:23] <dr_willis> torsaur:  yes
[03:23] <holstein> !install | torsaur
[03:23] <BlueProtoman> the_hydra: Been there, done that, didn't work.
[03:23] <usr13> BlueProtoman: How did you install gimp?
[03:23] <the_hydra> BlueProtoman: hm ok
[03:23] <BlueProtoman> usr13: The usual way, the Software Center.
[03:24] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, didn't you just removed the gimp ppa ?
[03:24]  * the_hydra symbol lookup errors, sounds related to linking or missing libs
[03:24] <holstein> BlueProtoman: i would purge it, and try apt or aptitude
[03:24] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: I never had the GIMP PPA.
[03:24] <BlueProtoman> holstein: How do I do that?
[03:24] <holstein> OerHeks: no.. there was no gimp ppa added
[03:25] <usr13> BlueProtoman: apt-cache policy gimp |pastebinit
[03:25] <the_hydra> BlueProtoman: try to run "sudo ldconfig"
[03:25] <the_hydra> BlueProtoman: just to make sure all libs are correctly linked
[03:25] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, oke, my bad, just read back, other ppaś but not gimp
[03:25] <usr13> the_hydra may be on to something....
[03:26] <dr_willis> wonder if the gtk livs/packages from a ppa may be messing with gimp
[03:26] <torsaur> Thanks willis, ubottu.  I had gotten it installed, and it looked to be going well. Everytime I try to boot Ubuntu as my OS, though, windows gives me an error saying that is cannot properly operate because of a file. It then gives the file path for ubuntu on my computer and says that there are files missing causing it to be unable to boot.
[03:26] <the_hydra> dr_willis: likely too...
[03:26] <torsaur> I get the impression windows doesn't like Ubuntu.
[03:26] <BlueProtoman> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618323/
[03:26] <holstein> torsaur: when you boot what? windows? or ubuntu?
[03:26] <the_hydra> dr_willis: it sounds like gimp looks for a function  but it can't find it in the current gtk libs
[03:26] <usr13> BlueProtoman: When did this start happening?
[03:26] <dr_willis> torsaur:  windows? You did a  wubi install INSIDE windows?
[03:27] <torsaur> When I attempt to boot ubuntu.
[03:27] <kbchurch> dr_willis or others. Would a kernel update render Unity unable to load, desktop at 1024x768. About all I can do it right-click on the desktop. Restarted and chose the previous kernel but no change. I'm thinking something went wrong with the update and the proprietary nvidia driver.
[03:27] <BlueProtoman> usr13: I just noticed it tonight.  I don't use GIMP that often, so for all I know it could have happened earlier.
[03:27] <BlueProtoman> usr13: http://pastebin.com/XBiJQvhF
[03:27] <dr_willis> kbchurch:  kernel update can mess with the video card drivers..  so yes it could
[03:27] <dataman> kbchurch: Can you get a terminal shell and uninstall/re-install the NVidia driver?
[03:27] <torsaur> I did. It seemed to work fine up until that point. Please forgive my technologcal illiteracy
[03:27] <kbchurch> I can get to terminal.
[03:28] <dr_willis> kbchurch:  theres way to many people i see weekly with issues where Unity semi-loads up due to some kernel/driver  issues
[03:28] <usr13> BlueProtoman: What date to you get from  ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/gimp.list  ?
[03:28] <kbchurch> dr_willis I did not think I was alone in that.
[03:28] <dr_willis> kbchurch:  had the issue lasst week on a mchine.. i just switched to lubuntu.. it ran fine.. then i tried kde.. it ran fine..
[03:29] <dr_willis> nvidia-settings may tell you if your nvidia drivers are correctly installed
[03:29] <BlueProtoman> usr13: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9349 Mar 15 22:24 /var/lib/dpkg/info/gimp.list
[03:29] <dr_willis> Mine were.. but unity still goofed up on me
[03:29] <kbchurch> I had a laptop that was not doing much, and not it's doing even less
[03:29] <bcbc2> torsaur: what version of windows? is it the wubildr.mbr file that's 'missing or corrupted'?
[03:29] <Guest6896> transform this system Ubuntu
[03:29] <usr13> BlueProtoman: I'd say that you could have discovered a bug.
[03:30] <torsaur> It doesn't specify the file, which is annoying. It's windows 8.
[03:30] <BlueProtoman> Why me?
[03:30] <dr_willis> does wubi  even work in windows 8? ;)
[03:30] <bcbc2> torsaur: if it came preloaded with Windows 8 then Wubi doesn't work with it
[03:30] <usr13> BlueProtoman: You might join #gimp and see if anyting turns up there.  Ask and see...
[03:30] <torsaur> Is there any way to install?
[03:31] <bcbc2> torsaur: review the wubi download page. It warns about this (any windows booting with uefi is not supported): http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[03:31] <dr_willis> torsaur:  normal way  is to use a boot cd/dvd and do a normal install to its own partitions..
[03:31] <BlueProtoman> usr13: I can't, cryogenics isn't mature enough.
[03:31] <bcbc2> torsaur: you have to do a normal dual boot with a 64-bit version of ubuntu
[03:31] <virus> hi
[03:31] <Guest6896> twine the system over to the NIST repository
[03:31] <dr_willis> torsaur:  id test by doing a 'normal' install to a flash drive.. from a live-cd setup flash drive..
[03:32] <virus> hallo do nathing
[03:32] <torsaur> So I could just move the files into my flash drive and boot from there?
[03:32] <virus> just formate tour computer
[03:32] <dr_willis> torsaur:  you MAKE a live-usb flash  drive.. you  dont just copy files to it
[03:32] <dr_willis> torsaur:  see the  pendrivelinux site for tools to  make one.
[03:32] <the_hydra> torsaur: unetbootin could help on that
[03:33] <goodtime> torsaur: are you useing ubuntu?
[03:33] <Guest6896> i know i know this is the inside of obamas virtual mind matrix
[03:33] <mtadyshak> I have FIOS internet at home with a wireless router.  I use wired connections  from the router for two laptops. The router gives out IP addresses of the form 10.0.0.x, which I guess is a  local network. I try to move files between the two laptops using WinSCP or PuTTY on Windows  but I cannot connect to the Ubuntu laptop.  Is there something that needs to be enabled on  the Ubuntu laptop to allow other computers to log onto it, or exchange files over th
[03:33] <bcbc2> torsaur: refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI for info on installing. abd http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows to create a bootable USB
[03:33] <holstein> BlueProtoman: and the mailing list? or forum? for gimp?
[03:33] <BlueProtoman> holstein: Not yet.
[03:33] <virus> gimp
[03:33] <Guest6896> is this the we?
[03:33] <the_hydra> mtadyshak: sure you have ssh server installed and running?
[03:34] <Guest6896> halo
[03:34] <rodhash> Guys, I've just bought a Samsung 550p5c-ad1 which comes with Win8, how can I resize it to keep a dual-boot?
[03:34] <rodhash> Win8 has multiple partitions and I'm not sure how to do
[03:34] <torsaur> Thank you all, you've been very helpful! No, I'm not, goodtime.
[03:34] <virus> i know how to do
[03:34] <Guest6896> Win9 is out why are you still on Win8?
[03:34] <goodtime> ok
[03:34] <virus> ok
[03:34] <goodtime> what! oh god
[03:34] <Guest6896> Win9
[03:35] <virus> win9 ???
[03:35] <holstein> BlueProtoman: i say, thats where you will get an answer
[03:35] <virus> good
[03:35] <holstein> !ot
[03:35] <Guest6896> yes download Win9 from bitorent
[03:35] <Guest6896> it has updates to support the new HID
[03:35] <the_hydra> rodhash: i think gparted live cd could help you on that
[03:35] <goodtime> forget that idea
[03:36] <goodtime> microsoft must die
[03:36] <Guest6896> Win9
[03:36] <Guest6896> goodtime: ITS DEAD
[03:36] <goodtime> good
[03:36] <Guest6896> its not even microsoft anymore
[03:36] <holstein> !ot | goodtime
[03:36] <dancasttro> voces ja falaram sobre o beta do 13.04?
[03:36] <jeanfrancois_> when win 10 ?
[03:37] <goodtime> sorry
[03:37] <holstein> take it to the windows channel or the offtopic channel please.. thanks!
[03:37] <Guest6896> I hereby annull all agreements contracts bonds obligations entered into without full knowledge and consent.
[03:38] <Guest6896> kal hezekevit shimerevet
[03:39] <usr13> Most of the active participants on this channel are totally bored with OT comments. (We are here because we are interested in Ubuntu Linux.)
[03:39] <mtadyshak> I have FIOS internet at home with a wireless router.  I use wired connections  from the router for two laptops. The router gives out IP addresses of the form 10.0.0.x, which I guess is a  local network. I try to move files between the two laptops using WinSCP or PuTTY on Windows  but I cannot connect to the Ubuntu laptop.  Is there something that needs to be enabled on  the Ubuntu laptop to allow other computers to log onto it, or exchange files over th
[03:39] <ndyhsutr> rodhash: your windows 8 setup is probably gpt partitioning take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[03:39] <the_hydra> rodhash: i think gparted live cd could help you on that
[03:39] <the_hydra> mtadyshak: sure you have ssh server installed and running?
[03:39] <usr13> !samba | mtadyshak
[03:39] <one> Well if the thing would do what I wanted I would also be interested.
[03:40] <usr13> !openssh-server | mtadyshak
[03:40] <Taseus> if its just files why not just ftp?
[03:40] <one> rainbow swat homosexuals on steroids
[03:40] <one> with guns
[03:40] <xangua> !ops | one
[03:41] <usr13> !info openssh-server | mtadyshak
[03:41] <pmp6nl> Hello Is "ddrescue --force /dev/zero /dev/sdb log.txt" a good way to erase a hard drive that has bad sectors? Thanks
[03:42] <usr13> mtadyshak: In other words, sudo apt-get install openssh-server  on the Ubuntu PC.
[03:42] <the_hydra> pmp6nl: why not using specific tool for that, say DBan?
[03:43] <pmp6nl> the_hydra, seems easier since I wont have to reboot.  Plus not sure how dban will handle bad sectors
[03:43] <the_hydra> pmp6nl: dd_rescue is for forensic and data recovery, so IMHO it's not suitable for erasing disk content
[03:43] <pmp6nl> its an external hd
[03:43] <usr13> !fsck | pmp6nl
[03:44] <OerHeks> pmp6nl, low level format does not guarantee that bad sectors disappear
[03:44] <the_hydra> pmp6nl: I suggest to use shred instead
[03:44] <the_hydra> pmp6nl: but again, I am not sure it can stand against bad sectos
[03:44] <the_hydra> sectors
[03:45] <pmp6nl> usr13, OerHeks - thanks, I tried to fix the sectors no good with fsck or running in windows. Im sending the HD back to manufacturer.  the_hydra - shred errors out due to the sectors
[03:45] <the_hydra> pmp6nl: but all I know, shred can delete data better and make it hard to recover
[03:45] <Rust> noob needs help with SSH...i've installed on the server created my keys, but when i run "ssh-copy-id username@remotehost" i get and error "no identities found"...what am i doing wrong?
[03:45] <the_hydra> pmp6nl: ok, then, have you tried running badblock command first?
[03:46] <the_hydra> pmp6nl: doing that, bad ones are marked first, so it won't be touched
[03:46] <pmp6nl> the_hydra, yep, I tried that unless I did something wrong
[03:46] <usr13> pmp6nl: You might want to try:   smartct -a /dev/sd?  |less
[03:46] <usr13> pmp6nl: and/or hdparm -i /dev/sd?
[03:46] <vrms> hello guys
[03:47] <usr13> pmp6nl: http://www.hdsentinel.com/hard_disk_sentinel_linux.php
[03:47] <usr13> pmp6nl: May be that it is time for new HD
[03:48] <pmp6nl> Thanks usr13 and the_hydra .  I am sending the HD back to manufacturer
[03:48] <the_hydra> pmp6nl: ok
[03:48] <MoltenPopsicle> do you guys have a help channel?
[03:48] <vrms> this is it
[03:48] <MoltenPopsicle> ah cool
[03:48] <Rust> noob needs help with SSH...i've installed on the server created my keys, but when i run "ssh-copy-id username@remotehost" i get and error "no identities found"...what am i doing wrong?
[03:49] <the_hydra> Rust: so you sure you already ran ssh-keygen?
[03:49] <usr13> Rust: 64bit?
[03:50] <Rust> the_hydra: yes i have, as i understand it copy-id will give the pub key to the remote host...32bit
[03:50] <vrms> does ssh-keygen give you any errors
[03:50] <vrms> ?
[03:50] <the_hydra> Rust: hm k
[03:50] <Rust> vrms: nope
[03:51] <the_hydra> Rust: check if you really have ~/.ssh directory
[03:51] <Rust> it's there and so is id_dsa.pub
[03:51] <the_hydra> Rust: and it contains private and public keys
[03:51] <Rust> the_hydra: yes
[03:52] <the_hydra> Rust: maybe you need to fallback using the scp instead
[03:52] <mtadyshak> ubottu: I can opssh windows between ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04 boxes at home.  From windows Samba, telnet, RealVNC, PuTTY and WinSCP all fail to connect to the Ubuntu boxes at 10.0.0.x
[03:52] <Rust> the_hydra: scp?
[03:52] <mtadyshak> s/opssh/open ssh/
[03:52] <usr13> Rust: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20863/how-do-i-permanently-add-an-identity-for-ssh
[03:53] <mtadyshak> ls
[03:53] <usr13> !scp | Rust
[03:54] <usr13> Rust: I'm in favor of just manually entering passwords.
[03:54] <usr13> ... it's what I do
[03:54] <vrms> keys are safer, btu I never bothered with keys either
[03:55] <Dalia> why not talk to ubuntu people
[03:55] <Dalia> just lonely
[03:55] <vrms> haha
[03:55] <vrms> anyone be needing help?
[03:55] <Taseus> its on an internal network behind a nat why ssh?
[03:55] <the_hydra> Dalia: hi
[03:55] <usr13> Taseus: Well, why not ssh?
[03:55] <mtadyshak> scp works between the ubuntu boxes
[03:56] <Rust> Taseus: it's a file server in the basement that i just use from a term window
[03:56] <goodtime> i belive ssh is more secure is why
[03:56] <the_hydra> mtadyshak: what's the error messages anyway?
[03:56] <afflicto> I downloaded a cursor theme. How do I install it? Same with gtk themes etc?
[03:56] <the_hydra> mtadyshak: and also, can you ping the box you wanna ssh to?
[03:57] <goodtime> it auto installs afflicto
[03:57] <mtadyshak> Windows just cannot connect.  Make sure that the device allows incoming connections for file or printer sharing.  Can that be enabled on a Ubuntu box?
[03:57] <kbchurch> dr_willis me again, the nvidia-settings works from terminal, seems to be okay
[03:57] <Taseus> very true, but on a local home network behind a nat ssh is kind of overkill isnt it? if the keys are being a pita
[03:57] <goodtime> nothing is to secure
[03:57] <afflicto> goodtime: Ok.. where to I unzip it though? I suspect it's not /usr/share/themes
[03:58] <goodtime> hmm
[03:58] <goodtime> hang on
[03:58] <X11> how do I clear nat table contents from router please?
[03:58] <goodtime> yeah thats a pain afflicto
[03:58] <goodtime> idk realy sorry
[03:58] <doggles> hi friends, is it possible to download an old version of ubuntu (oneiric or something?) that uses kernel 2.6.39?
[03:58] <afflicto> goodtime: ok thanks though!
[03:59] <the_hydra> doggles: yup
[03:59] <usr13> I set my router up so that all systems have static leases and user-friendly names.  For instance, I have a web server that is named ws and just happens to have most of what I normally access within the same user's space as the PC I normally use, so I just go:  ssh ws
[03:59] <doggles> the_hydra: cool, where would i find that?
[04:00] <usr13> ...or scp file-name ws:html/
[04:00] <ndyhsutr> doggles: here is one place there are others http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[04:00] <goodtime> theres prob a torrent for it doggles
[04:00] <the_hydra> doggles: follow the download link in ubuntu.com, it will list various iso files ranging from previous past releases up to latest stable IIRC
[04:00] <mtadyshak> Nope!  Cannot ping either Ubuntu box from Windows 7 laptop.   I have a wired router with DHCP enabled.  It is connected upstream to my FIOS wireless router via its wired LAN outputs.  Maybe I should turn DHCP off on the downstream wired router?
[04:00] <doggles> oh okay, i'll try that, thanks
[04:00] <Dalia> doggles.... just curious.. why you would want to do that??
[04:00] <dr_willis> kbchurch:  yep. seen all sorts of varity of issues make unity not load properly. if a newly  made user works. that would point to a problem with your other users settings..
[04:01] <the_hydra> mtadyshak: likely, your Window box and your Ubuntu boxes somehow are in different subnets
[04:01] <dr_willis> mtadyshak:  you really dont want several dhcp servers on the same lan i imagine
[04:01] <doggles> Dalia: kind of a long story.  basically that particular kernel has a local priv escalation vulnerability that I want to try to exploit as a learning exercise
[04:01] <the_hydra> mtadyshak: check all of their IP addresses and the netmasks
[04:01] <kbchurch> dr_willis: can I make a new user from the terminal?
[04:01] <dr_willis> kbchurch:  via the adduser command. yes.
[04:01] <mtadyshak> Good idea thanks!
[04:02] <the_hydra> mtadyshak: welcome
[04:02] <kbchurch> I'll try here in a second
[04:02] <dr_willis> kbchurch:  i would be sure to  install an ssh server. and an alternative desktop  to  fall back on also.. like lubuntu-desktop or jwm, or somtiing just in case
[04:02] <Amelia28> Hello guys
[04:02] <the_hydra> Amelia28: hi
[04:02] <vrms> he llo
[04:03] <isaias_> Hi
[04:04] <mtadyshak> The subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 on Win7, 10.04 and 12.04
[04:04] <isaias_> What's a good book I could buy so I can leads to use the terminal effectively?
[04:04] <the_hydra> mtadyshak: how about the IP addresses?
[04:04] <isaias_> Read*
[04:05] <the_hydra> isaias_: IIRC there is a title "linux command line" by william shotts
[04:06] <isaias_> The_hydra. You personally recommend this book?
[04:06] <OerHeks> isaias, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal & https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto  ohh, you don't need to buy these pages
[04:07] <vrms> you really don't need books like that, manpages and search engines should suffice
[04:08] <kbchurch> dr_willis: I created a new user but the lack of Unity loading remains
[04:08] <the_hydra> isaias_: i read the free preview chapter and I think it's good, if you don't mind to spend some $$ of course
[04:09] <one> nope that is not it
[04:09] <ndyhsutr> isaias_: here is a free pdf download of shotts book. http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[04:09] <afflicto> if I do a "mv" it will ask if there is a file with the same name right?
[04:09] <the_hydra> ndyhsutr: ah thanks for reminding
[04:09] <the_hydra> afflicto: yes
[04:09] <ndyhsutr> the_hydra: no problem
[04:10] <afflicto> the_hydra: ok good :P
[04:10] <the_hydra> afflicto: same thing with cp
[04:10] <the_hydra> afflicto: if you wanna be sure, use -i so it will always ask for confirmation
[04:11] <the_hydra> afflicto: check you aliases if mv is already an alias to mv -i
[04:11] <the_hydra> afflicto: if not, simply do : alias mv = 'mv -i'
[04:11] <goodtime> hmmmm
[04:12] <goodtime> ty the_hydra
[04:12] <the_hydra> goodtime: welcome
[04:12] <isaias_> Thank you!
[04:13] <isaias_> :D
[04:13]  * isaias_ bows
[04:13] <isaias_> XD
[04:13] <isaias_> Ehh
[04:13] <isaias_> Good night
[04:19] <lxle> funny linux promo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0
[04:27] <X11> Why are you people not on tor or a vpn.  This is the underground yanno, you have to protect your ip
[04:28] <dr_willis> hmm..
[04:28] <dr_willis> !cloak
[04:28] <captine> X11, funny.  i tried Tor when in Shanghai.  was pretty spotty there... think the  government in that place is pretty clever at blocking them
[04:29] <dr_willis> no need for tor reallt
[04:29] <dr_willis> really
[04:29] <X11> Freenode has a server just for tor users
[04:29] <X11> I'm on Tor
[04:29] <dr_willis> thrilling.. and well.. basically  off topic for the channel.
[04:29] <captine> dr_willis, going to shanghai cuts you off from the world... VPN/Tor is the only link to the outside... :)
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> X11: tor is not as secure as some think
[04:30] <hualet> captine, are you chinese?
[04:30] <captine> nope
[04:30] <captine> Live in Asia now though, and travel a bit for business
[04:30] <hualet> aptine, ok
[04:30] <X11> you have to know what you are doing wilee avoiding becoming a bad exit node but just for messengers and xchat...perfect
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> X11: ah exit nodes exactly
[04:31] <GentSir> Tor isn't a solution all of its own though. you still need to use encryption for you communications and the such
[04:31] <X11> oh and Facebook.  I have it on chromium
[04:32] <Rust> the_hydra: figured out the ssh copy id problem...i forgot i set the server sshd_config to no for password authentication...had to manually copy the pub key...thx for the assist
[04:32] <Taseus> not to mention profiling on tor as well, not really a geolocation or anything but, people can track your traffic over time
[04:33] <hualet> we chinese won't get access to facebook, google+ and things like that  without the help of VPN..
[04:33] <cjfs> no facebook or google+?
[04:33] <hualet> yeah
[04:33]  * cjfs moves to China
[04:34] <cjfs> ;-)
[04:34] <captine> no youtube
[04:34] <GentSir> hualet, I read the government in china also monitors traffic, if they see something using an exclusively encrypted connection they send Big Brother to do some legwork to your door
[04:34] <hualet> captine, yeah, youtube, :-)
[04:34] <X11> Taseus, the FBI said if it wasn't for Sabu when he leaked his proxy on IRC, they wouldn't have been able to get anyone.  Tor is that tight..the fbi needed an insider to bust the rest.
[04:34] <the_hydra> Rust: i see :)
[04:34] <X11> Tor is legit
[04:34] <the_hydra> Rust: glad you made it
[04:35] <X11> and Sabu was using "hidemyass" Taseus
[04:35] <hualet> GentSir, not that bad...
[04:35] <Taseus> its definately legit, what i am saying is that it is possible to carve out someones data over time
[04:35] <Taseus> using profiling
[04:35] <Taseus> not that you will be able to determine who that person is
[04:35] <GentSir> hualet, slippery slope my friend...
[04:35] <Taseus> only the information
[04:36] <X11> They busted one guy Taseus b/c he used the same irc nick on all servers.  some were not uncloaked.
[04:36] <spason> howdy.  Trying to install 12.04 on asus eee pc with unetbootin.  it says something like 'your install medium is on sda1, you won't be able to change this but might be able to install.  when i try and install, it says there is no root system and to fix it in partition.  i do not know what this means. (noob) help?
[04:36] <hualet> GentSir, where did your friend live?
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> spason: the a live cd right?
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> this
[04:37] <spason> no cd
[04:37] <spason> teeny netbook
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> spason: ok live iso on a usb do you get the question?
[04:37] <X11> spason, choose / for your root partition and then it will ask you to make a swap partition.  Make swap about 2/10 the size of the hard drive
[04:38] <spason> it was on usb, but now i took that out and it starts from hard drive...because when usb stick is in it only lets me try and install os onto the stick, not onto hard drive
[04:38] <Vianstak> saludos
[04:38] <MisterLizard> sounds a bit like it's treating the install medium as sda
[04:38] <Taseus> yeah, its just possible for someone on any darknet to have a ton of exit nodes and spy on traffic, compile all the packets and look for similarities and ssl strip the exit to find all sorts of stuff
[04:38] <spason> i am  to all this, bear with me
[04:39] <spason> new to all this
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> spason: check how the usb and HD are read with sudo fdisk -l
[04:39] <Taseus> not saying that gets anyone caught, im just saying its not "secure"
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> spason: on occasion the usb and the hd are reversed the usb seems to be showing as sda
[04:39] <Taseus> anonymizing absolutely
[04:40] <spason> ha, can't find terminal
[04:40] <dr_willis> ive seen systems switch sda to be  whatever device they boot from  wilee-nilee  - but only a few. ;)
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> spason: ctrl-alt-t
[04:40] <GentSir> hualet, it was from an uncle who lives in bejing
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis: yeah haven't seen it myself for awhile.
[04:40] <MisterLizard> i have a vague memory of eee pc's treating whatever device was first in the boot order in the bios as the primary drive
[04:41] <hualet> spason, if it doesn't work, try umount -l /isodevices
[04:41] <spason> well, now the usb is out.
[04:41] <dr_willis> bbl
[04:41] <hualet> GentSir, that kind of info are mostly blocked my the goverment...
[04:41] <spason> and booting from hd i can choose windows 7 or unetbootin
[04:42] <spason> can i copy what is in my terminal to show you?
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> spason: paste it here then post the address  http://pastebin.com/
[04:43] <spason> how do i copy
[04:43] <spason> ctrl c doesn't do it
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> spason: highlight the text righ click copy then paste at site
[04:44] <IdleOne> spason: ctrl shift c
[04:45] <CrownWheel> Hey.  Anyone know where I might find drivers for an Intel GMA 3650 graphics chip?
[04:45] <spason> ok.  pasted.
[04:45] <IdleOne> you need to give the paste address
[04:45] <CrownWheel> It's part of the Atom D2700 CPU.
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> spason: hit submit and ^^^^^
[04:46] <the_hydra> CrownWheel: i think you need to find it straight to intel.com
[04:46] <einolla> hi
[04:46] <CrownWheel> the_hydra, thanks.  You know how to install a 3rd party video driver if I manage to track one down?
[04:47] <MisterLizard> i've got some memory of booting an eee pc from usb and having the usb drive registering as /dev/sda and the internal drives being /dev/sdb and c. then once the stick was removed the thing rebooted with the internal drive as /dev/sda and it all got confused
[04:47] <einolla> who is?
[04:47] <spason> mister: that sounds like what is happening.
[04:48] <einolla> hi
[04:48] <einolla> no body
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> einolla: this is support not chat
[04:48] <spason> mister: that sounds like what is happening.  AND finally, it says ubi partman failed with error 141
[04:49] <sianhulo> hey guys, I want to stream a movie from ubuntu to my android phone(they are on the same network), what do you recommend?
[04:49] <einolla> hi
[04:49] <einolla> hi
[04:50] <einolla> hello
[04:50] <MisterLizard> spason: honestly can't remember how I fixed it :( I think it might have been setting the bios boot options to only boot from the internal drives, then mashing F12 or whatever key to bring up the boot device selector and starting the USB install from there
[04:50] <IdleOne> !ot | einolla
[04:50] <einolla> hi
[04:51] <spason> http://pastebin.com/wTtLQARG
[04:51] <spason> can i do bios settings from here, or do i have to reboot?
[04:51] <the_hydra> sianhulo: i think vlc can do such thing
[04:52] <einolla> hi
[04:52] <IdleOne> einolla: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:52] <einolla> yes
[04:52] <sianhulo> the_hydra, yeah, but, the problem is the android side
[04:52] <CrownWheel> RE: Intel GMA 3650.  Not promising: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@blu.org/msg05571.html
[04:52] <the_hydra> einolla: just ask
[04:52] <IdleOne> einolla: then please ask it and stop repeating hi every 30 seconds
[04:52] <einolla> what
[04:55] <the_hydra> sianhulo: hmm
[04:55] <CrownWheel> So, the next question (and, I guess this would be an upstream/mailing list question) is: Is anybody working on a GMA 3650 64-bit driver at all?  For Ubuntu?
[04:55] <CrownWheel> <-- disappointed.
[04:55] <spason> So... anyone have any advice?
[04:56] <MisterLizard> spason: you'd need to reboot to access the bios settings. But I don't have an eee pc anymore to give much more detail
[04:56] <CrownWheel> Can you run a video driver in WINE?  It sounds like an awful idea...but could I take a Win driver for the chipset and do that?
[04:57] <MisterLizard> and what I've said is only a vague recollection
[04:57] <spason> so, reboot and tell it to boot only from hard disk?
[04:57] <spason> it has been booting from hard disk
[04:57] <spason> did you look at my paste?  i
[04:57] <spason> paste bin?  i don't know much about partitioning
[04:59] <jjkkkk> any free wsywyg html editor ?
[04:59] <the_hydra> jjkkkk: yes, nv, bluefish
[05:00] <jjkkkk> whatt's the best editor
[05:00] <the_hydra> jjkkkk: Kompozer
[05:00] <OerHeks> !best
[05:00] <spason> ok, thanks for the help.  be back in a bit.
[05:00] <jjkkkk> which one bluefish , kompozer or nv
[05:01] <the_hydra> jjkkkk: try it by yourself and see which one suits you
[05:04] <lxle> kick ass linux promo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0
[05:05] <Guest41435> hi I would like to resolve a laggy computer issue I have been having for a few days
[05:05] <Guest41435> am using xubuntu and the web browser firefox is using 100 percent cpu
[05:06] <OerHeks> lxle, please don't spam youtube urls, join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:06] <Guest41435> or if i have xfce_4 task manager open they split the difference 50/50 , what can I do to resolve this? please thankyou
[05:06] <lxle> sorry man, i've been getting a kick out of that vid for days
[05:06] <lxle> lol
[05:07] <the_hydra> Guest41435: can you recall what did you do up to this laggy situation?
[05:07] <the_hydra> Guest41435: did you install something? change certain configs? anything?
[05:07] <Guest41435> I have this dell laptop and installed xubuntu on it recently
[05:08] <Guest41435> havnt done much else really
[05:08] <Guest41435> just using facebook youtube
[05:08] <c|oneman> is it a netbook
[05:08] <the_hydra> Guest41435: seems like you're eaten by flash plugin
[05:08] <Guest41435> dell latitude 0620
[05:08] <the_hydra> Guest41435: and it's normal, since flash plugin is cpu hogger
[05:08] <spason> ok. back.
[05:09] <Guest41435> dell latitude 620
[05:09] <the_hydra> Guest41435: how much RAM you havr?
[05:09] <OerHeks> the_hydra +1
[05:09] <spason> how do i make the windows smaller so i can switch between them easily to explain my problem
[05:09] <Guest41435> i think its two gig
[05:09] <Guest41435> maybe 1
[05:09] <c|oneman> try chrome
[05:09] <the_hydra> Guest41435: ok that's enough these days IMHO
[05:10] <Guest41435> lol
[05:10] <the_hydra> Guest41435: i suggest to do full update and see if it makes any difference
[05:10] <c|oneman> but mostly, try windows if you want flash player performance :P
[05:10] <Guest41435> but the task manager takes up 50 percent, is flash used there
[05:10] <Guest41435> as well
[05:10] <spason> ok, so it says "Your installation medium is on /dev/sda1.  You will not be able to create, delete, or resize partitions on this disk, but you may be able to install to existing partitions there.
[05:11] <dyan> hi all
[05:11] <spason> and dev/sda3 is 22mb
[05:12] <spason> Any help?
[05:12] <the_hydra> Guest41435: try running this command : sudo ps -eo %cpu,comm --sort -%cpu | head
[05:12] <Guest41435> when i first turned on the computer the last time i unplugged my internet connection to see if that made a difference and the task manager was at 7 to 10 percent, then i logged on with firefox and a few minutes later the cpu was at 100
[05:12] <the_hydra> Guest41435: and paste the result in pastebin. that would show the top ten cpu hogger in your system
[05:13] <the_hydra> Guest41435: the firefox and its flash plugin are very likely the cause
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> spason: windows has a disk manager resize it with it
[05:13] <spason> i'm in ubuntu unetbootin
[05:13] <Guest41435> %CPU COMMAND
[05:13] <Guest41435> 70.9 xfce4-taskmanag
[05:13] <Guest41435> 31.8 firefox
[05:13] <Guest41435> 26.3 sudo
[05:13] <Guest41435> 23.4 xfce4-terminal
[05:13] <Guest41435> 16.1 xchat
[05:13] <FloodBot1> Guest41435: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <wayne__> SSDs are awesome
[05:14] <spason> and resize it to what?  why doesn't it just make it whatever size it needs to be?1
[05:14] <Guest41435> oops not trying to flood
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> spason: safest way to resize windows is with it's partitioner, by the way are you backedup?
[05:14] <wayne__> #UBUNTUOFFTOPIC
[05:14] <spason> no, i was given this computer.  nothing i need on it.
[05:14] <spason> i want windows off, ubuntu on.
[05:15] <spason> seems simple enough.
[05:15] <c|oneman> delete all partitions then.
[05:15] <spason> how?
[05:15] <the_hydra> Guest41435: sheesh, xchat is taking 16%?
[05:15] <spason> i don't know about this stuff
[05:15] <h6sidhu> django
[05:15] <h6sidhu> #django
[05:15] <spason> i wish there was a noob button
[05:15] <h6sidhu> lol
[05:15] <h6sidhu> noob button
[05:15] <c|oneman> you can use some other boot cd if the ubuntu installer doesn't provide a simple option
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> spason: then choose the use whole disc in the install, it will overwrite all of it. I think you have a reversed hd usb setup can you post that pastebin of sudo fdisk -l
[05:16] <c|oneman> like ultimate boot cd, or a seagate cd
[05:16] <the_hydra> Guest41435: something is fishy...... hopefully your system is not compromised by cracker
[05:17] <Guest41435> thanks for trying to help
[05:17] <wayne__> Id just turn one off
[05:17] <Guest41435> actually my other computer is broken dont know why
[05:17] <Guest41435> maybe they took them both down
[05:18] <the_hydra> Guest41435: are you running custom xchat plug ins?
[05:18] <wayne__> Would you buy an OS's thats made from windows 7 an Linux ''
[05:18] <spason> http://pastebin.com/LSa6snYT
[05:18] <Guest41435> this is default xchat from xubuntu install
[05:18] <the_hydra> Guest41435: next time, install ufw and simply do "ufw enable"
[05:18] <magixx> can someone explain to me why when i take 8bitpng image with 2 colors (identify shows 2c) and mogrify -resize -depth 2 it comes out with 4colors but looks like shit?
[05:18] <Guest41435> what is ufw?
[05:19] <the_hydra> Guest41435: user interface to control firewall
[05:19] <spason> do you mean 'new partition table'?
[05:19] <servvs> so I have ubuntu server isntalled and it is working fine except for one issue
[05:20] <spason> plz help!
[05:20] <servvs> I have an old crt monitor that I use when I need to do things locally to the server, but all of the text is very small
[05:20] <Guest41435> so sudo synaptic ufw would install it?
[05:20] <Guest41435> ill do that now think it will help?
[05:20] <jose106> how do you remove the entries were people come in and out?
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> spason: the hd is showing as the HD, there is a use the whole disc option in the install gui have you gotten there and is that where the error you get happens?
[05:21] <servvs> how can I make the text, or display resolution larger on a local server machine?
[05:21] <spason> i'm there now, waiting for your advice.  ;)
[05:21] <spason> i have 3 partitions
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> spason: If you choose the whole disc option it should install over the whole HD
[05:21] <spason> i don't see whole disk option
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> spason: been awile since I have installed, I forget what is there now what are your choices?
[05:22] <spason> i mean, it doesn't say that but i have /dev/sda chosen as boot loader.  160gb
[05:22] <the_hydra> Guest41435: I usually use aptitude or apt-get: sudo apt-get install ufw
[05:22] <Guest41435> ok ill do thaqt
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> spason: did you choose the something other option?
[05:23] <Guest41435> synaptic is  too slow with this much cpu being used
[05:23] <spason> not an option.  dev/sda, sda1 or sda2
[05:23] <c|oneman> wonder if I can run winxp in Virtualbox on a OpenVZ VPS :D
[05:24] <the_hydra> servvs: IIRC it is related to display mode. The usual 80x25 mode can be picked by using "vga=791" in kernel parameter I think....recheck with google
[05:24] <spason> can i do new partition table?
[05:24] <spason> or is that scary?
[05:24] <Guest41435> ok ufw is already install , I said ufw in terminal the response given was not enough args
[05:25] <the_hydra> Guest41435: if you really need the graphical version, install gufw too
[05:25] <Guest41435> how to open ufw?
[05:25] <the_hydra> Guest41435: try "sudo ufw enable"
[05:25] <servvs> the_hydra: how would I change it? I have already changed it in the grub configurations but it didn't help
[05:26] <VGusev2007> ufw don't support any forward rules. It good for localhost only
[05:26] <the_hydra> servvs: could you explain what you did earlier in regards to grub config?
[05:26] <spason> ext4 journaling file system
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> spason: take a screenshot of where yout at with the prtsc key and paste it here and post the url  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[05:26] <spason> is that what it's supposed to be/
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> your*
[05:27] <spason> rrrrg
[05:27] <spason> froze
[05:27] <spason> how do i force quit something
[05:27] <servvs> I honestly don't remember how I did it, I just followed some instructions I got back from googling
[05:28] <jose106> how do you disable the lines were people join and wuit the chat?
[05:28] <servvs> it was the same file you would edit to change whether or not to show the grub boot manager
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> jose106: what irc client are you using?
[05:28] <jose106> xchat
[05:28] <jose106> the ubuntu default
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> jose106: it is in the prefrences
[05:30] <the_hydra> servvs: /etc/defaul/grub then
[05:30] <servvs> also, I have some cron jobs set up, but for some reason I can't find the cron.d file on my system anymore
[05:31] <the_hydra> servvs: try to list them using crontab -l
[05:31] <the_hydra> servvs: sorry I meant /etc/default/grub then
[05:31] <I-and-you> hi
[05:31] <jose106> wilee-nilee, thanks
[05:31] <I-and-you> hi
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> jose106: no problem glad you found it. ;D
[05:31] <servvs> so if I change the GRUB_GFXMODE= and uncoment it will that work with my issues?
[05:32] <Guest41435> thankyou the_hydra Firewall is active and enabled on system startup
[05:32] <I-and-you> hello
[05:32] <Guest41435> I am installing gufw
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> I-and-you: you have a support issue?
[05:32] <the_hydra> Guest41435: welcome
[05:32] <I-and-you> im too
[05:32] <servvs> the_hydra, the cron jobs did show with that
[05:32] <I-and-you> hi
[05:32] <Guest41435> anything else you suggest for me?
[05:32] <the_hydra> servvs: maybe it's GRUB_TERMINAL you need to uncomment
[05:32] <I-and-you> yes
[05:33] <the_hydra> Guest41435: nothing else right now
[05:33] <Guest41435> so i shall reboot
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> I-and-you: this channel works with you starting with the question
[05:33] <I-and-you> ok
[05:33] <the_hydra> Guest41435: better reboot, just to make sure everything start from beginning including the firewall
[05:33] <jose106> wilee-nilee, it worked
[05:33] <Guest41435> what do i do with the gui is it self explanatory
[05:33] <Guest41435> ok
[05:33] <I-and-you> hi
[05:34] <Guest41435> i reboot now i will be back
[05:34] <servvs> I really don't want to limit it to the grub terminal only though, would like to have graphics if I need to use them
[05:34] <I-and-you> what ok
[05:34] <the_hydra> Guest41435: quite self explanatory, but you'll do fine with basic ufw setting IMHO
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> I-and-you: be sure to use the nick of who you're addressing as well tyoe a few letters of it then hit tab to complete. :d
[05:34] <servvs> will it get rid of curses graphics and everything too then?
[05:34] <the_hydra> servvs: curses still work
[05:34] <I-and-you> hi kasjopaja
[05:34] <servvs> ok
[05:34] <one_> hi
[05:35] <chunkyhead> hi
[05:35] <I-and-you> hi
[05:35] <the_hydra> servvs: frame buffer mode makes output prettier and makes you able to do something like playing video in console AFAIK :)
[05:35] <the_hydra> ok gtg people
[05:35] <one_> chunkysoup
[05:36] <chunkyhead> guys i was wondering if there's a mod in ubuntu, when ubuntu is gonna sleep it shuts screen two three times like how an eyelid does when you are sleepy. are you guys aware of anything of such sort?
[05:37] <I-and-you> salam
[05:37] <alank> hi, can anyone help me turn on kernel debugging messages for dvb_usb_device_init
[05:37] <one_> chunkyhead: it flickers?
[05:37] <one_> its two or three vms maybe
[05:38] <one_> has to shut down the virtual machines first
[05:38] <chunkyhead> one_, i am asking is there such a mod/custom ppa?
[05:38] <I-and-you> hi gardar
[05:38] <I-and-you> hi hetal
[05:38] <placebo> hi the_hydra this is the xubuntu ufw guy
[05:38] <placebo> I have gufw open
[05:38] <placebo> it says off
[05:38] <one_> chunkyhead: oh i dunno thats an odd request
[05:39] <placebo> status is off
[05:39] <chunkyhead> one_, lol i was just thinking out loud. there're so many things which we are unaware about, so was wondering if anyone knew they could share
[05:39] <I-and-you> hi
[05:39] <placebo> ok i authenticated with password it is now status on
[05:39] <one_> stop with the we chunkyhead
[05:40] <chunkyhead> one_, i :P
[05:40] <one_> look it is password placebo
[05:40] <spason> wily nilly you still here?
[05:41] <spason> where do i paste the screenshot for your guys to troubleshoot?
[05:41] <one_> chunkyhead: i want a ppa or custom repo that will transform the whole system to secure apps
[05:42] <thoonai> hey
[05:42] <chunkyhead> one_, have you tried selinux?
[05:42] <thoonai> my server hangs at setting up ca-certificates
[05:42] <chunkyhead> one_, oh my bad i didnt read ppa
[05:42] <one_> oh yeah and apparmor on ubuntu
[05:43] <chunkyhead> yeah one_ that's decent
[05:43] <spason> "NO root file is defined"  how to fix this?
[05:43] <one_> needs to be built from the ground up
[05:44] <usr13> !paste | spason
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> spason: I can't really help unless you follow instructions. This is very basic stuff the install gui from the live desktop has a where to insall gui that has a install to the whole HD option, I have no idea where you are at without a picture.
[05:44] <one_> search your memories
[05:44] <one_> you may find an encoded message
[05:45] <thoonai> somehow my terminal terminates :(
[05:45] <thoonai> and nothing ist happening
[05:45] <chunkyhead> one_, when ubuntu is about to sleep due to inactivity the screen dims and then shuts off? is there a way to dim it 2-3 times and then shut off
[05:46] <spason> http://imagebin.org/250470
[05:47] <one_> chunkyhead: you could edit the source code and recompile it, but ive found the source doesnt seem to compile into the binaries distributed
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> spason: the gui that leads to that one has the whole disc option, thanks that is helpful.
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> spason: close that window hit back and choose whole disc or whatever it says meaning that.
[05:48] <chunkyhead> my update manager is screwed up any help fixing that?
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> spason: sorry just back gets you ti the install choice.
[05:49] <usr13> chunkyhead: sudo apt-get install -f
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> the*
[05:49] <one_> chunkyhead: the brightness setting is going to be part of gnome I'm guessing
[05:50] <chunkyhead> one_, once i was really sleepy and wasn't using the computer much it started dimming i thought i was dozing off lol
[05:50] <spason> http://imagebin.org/250471
[05:50] <spason> is the screen before
[05:51] <placebo> hello the_hydra thankyou for your prior help gufw is now on I have enabled logging, cpu is at 100 however
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> spason: so if you hit enter from there you get the first image you showed?
[05:51] <placebo> what can we do next
[05:51] <spason> yes
[05:52] <one_> chunkyhead: well beware of hypnoyics
[05:52] <placebo> what type of xchat should i install?
[05:52] <dr_willis> types?
[05:52] <placebo> this is a default form xubuntu
[05:52] <one_> theres all types of connections to russian servers compiled into ubuntu at least this one
[05:52] <chunkyhead> usr13, dude nothing happens, any way i can uninstall and reinstall without purging dependencies?
[05:52] <dr_willis> theres only  xchat and  gnome-xchat in the repos. theres other irc clients
[05:52] <placebo> someone advised  installing some extras
[05:53] <spason> your thoughts?
[05:53] <one_> during the soviet times they practiced mkultra
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> spason: not sure why that is happening I have never seen the installer default to the custom default, there should be a gui that has several options resizing what is there, whole disc, or something else which leads you to the first pic you showed
[05:53] <placebo> mm mkultra? tell more
[05:53] <chunkyhead> one_, it was only the next day i had realized that more than me it was the computer who was sleeping lol
[05:54] <placebo> my cpu is at 100% the_hydra suggested ufw ebable so i did
[05:54] <placebo> and install gufw
[05:54] <spason> so what should i do?!
[05:54] <placebo> now cpu still at 100 what can i do next please thankyou guysglas
[05:55] <dr_willis> placebo:  look in top/htop to see whats using the cpu
[05:55] <OerHeks> placebo open terminal, type ' top  '  and see what is using 100% ?
[05:55] <OerHeks> placebo and how do you know it is using 100% ?
[05:55] <placebo> xfce_4 task manager tells me
[05:55] <chunkyhead> anyone knows how to switch between OSs (vm) in the lenses there was something which came out i forgot
[05:56] <placebo> memory 10 swap 0
[05:56] <one_> hold on i need to get a drink of water
[05:56] <placebo> processes 136
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> spason: you can install from the gui you were at but I would not myself, if the normal gui's are not showing you may have a bad download that will just keep causing problems.
[05:56] <placebo> task manager was at 70
[05:56] <dr_willis> placebo:  look at the first few lines of  top or htop.
[05:57] <placebo> firefox goes to 100 then splits to 50 50 with task manager
[05:57] <one_> partake of the water
[05:57] <dr_willis> placebo:  and if you close firefox?
[05:58] <subcool> hey, what software is there to benchmark kubuntu?
[05:58] <one_> well what they try and do is confidence game to a scientific level
[05:58] <subcool> i cant find anything everything has dead links
[05:58] <spason> http://imagebin.org/250472
[05:58] <spason> new install download wily?
[05:58] <subcool> Or they are reviews.. wtf?
[05:59] <placebo> xfce panel and ufw xorg and top and xchat all changing places for first place on top
[05:59] <one_> they use drugs aslo
[05:59] <placebo> ufw at 99 percent sometimes
[05:59] <one_> all different combinations its meta
[06:00] <hamid2013> hi i downloaded the last version of tor browser but when i click on it it comes with an error massage\
[06:00] <one_> but these jackasses use the somputer to calculate it
[06:00] <dr_willis> Gotta love massages ;)
[06:00] <placebo> what settings might i try on gufw?
[06:00] <dr_willis> placebo:  perhaps just disable all firewall rules?
[06:01] <placebo> i just enabled them because for the last three days firefox is too slow to use
[06:01] <placebo> and task manager shows 100 percent cpu usage
[06:02] <placebo> the_hydra suggested a cracker so I could enable firewall
[06:02] <placebo> the_hydra suggested a cracker so I could enable firewall?
[06:02] <dr_willis> placebo:  your logic totally escapes me...
[06:02] <placebo> ok
[06:02] <placebo> so what could be wrong
[06:02] <placebo> how to fix
[06:03] <one_> its all run from a computer you should extrapolate the outcome
[06:03] <wilee-nilee> spason: honestly I think it is a mater of you not being familiar with this install schema, you are at the custom install area, there should be an option before that to just use the whole disc, and yes a iso can download and be corrupted, it is rather dificult for me to really acertain what is really the problem here.
[06:03] <one_> always see it coming before it comes
[06:03] <dr_willis> Ive no idea what stuff you have installed.. and you dont seem to be  able to read top output very well.
[06:03] <placebo> i have just installed xubuntu
[06:03] <dr_willis> i dont see how gufw would be using a lot of cpu.. there is a % used colum in top.
[06:03] <placebo> it is a clean install couple weeks ago]
[06:04] <placebo> I agree
[06:04] <placebo> I dont see how firefox does either
[06:04] <placebo> someone suggested it was flash
[06:04] <one_> what its going to come down to is several aspects working together at the same time to collapse the whole system
[06:04] <dr_willis> flash is a known cpu hog. and it can go berzerk at times
[06:04] <one_> gonna have to be as one mind or one man
[06:04] <placebo> if i open firefox it will be at the top
[06:05] <dr_willis> the app using the most cpu will be at the top.. if its 5% or 50% - its all relative to what the other apps are using
[06:05] <one_> the adversary would do something smilimlar
[06:06] <one_> its just putting peices together
[06:06] <one_> love of men will grow colder
[06:06] <one_> it will be very cold
[06:06] <placebo> ok so i oppened firefox it is jumping around first and second place only thing is one is 70 and the other is 80 at the same time how is that possible?
[06:06] <one_> cold outside
[06:06] <placebo> thats more than 100?
[06:07] <fungoat> Anyone know how to reinstate a missing copy dialog in Unity? "Show Copy Dialog" is not working.
[06:07] <one_> so what it comes down too is warmim it it
[06:07] <magixx> how can i get mogrify to actually apply a -colors to a PNG image, currently no matter what it ignores the amount i give it and outputs 256 for png8
[06:07] <dr_willis> placebo:  htop is easier to read then top i find..
[06:07] <placebo> ok ill try it
[06:08] <placebo> is ther a reason that 0 swap is used
[06:08] <placebo> I have 2498556
[06:08] <placebo> but none used
[06:08] <one_> this is the map
[06:08] <hamid2013> hi i downloaded the last version of tor browser but when i click on it it comes with an error massage\
[06:08] <thoonai> dpkg --configure -a fails too
[06:08] <one_> and at several moments it changes
[06:08] <dr_willis> placebo:  its not needed.. so not used...
[06:08] <one_> but the last outcome is understood
[06:09] <dr_willis> hamid2013:  and we are supposed to guess this error message?
[06:09] <one_> the finality
[06:09] <one_> dues tues its finite nature
[06:10] <hamid2013> it says an unexpected error dr_willis
[06:10] <thoonai> ist no help
[06:10] <one_> but for those who are aware they see the blindness of other intents
[06:10] <dr_willis> hamid2013:  run it from a terminal. look for error messages.. dont just double click it.
[06:10] <one_> all that is seen is the willpoer
[06:11] <one_> the lack of it
[06:11] <one_> and the weakness of the adversarials
[06:11] <dr_willis> one_ take it to someplace else please.. like #foreveralone
[06:12] <one_> because after the finite closure there is a forever not quite alone
[06:12] <tucemiux> anyone here uses playonlinux? I'm wondering if I should download the app or install from the software center
[06:12] <wilee-nilee> one_: hehe pseudo philosophy you momma must be proud. ;D
[06:12] <OerHeks> tucemiux, use the softwarecentre version, so you getupdates
[06:12] <dr_willis> tucemiux:  its in the repos. may as well use that
[06:12] <hamid2013> dr_willis: i run it from there but my mozila doesnt work too its proxy is set
[06:13] <placebo> I installed htop
[06:13] <tucemiux> OerHeks, i was wondering about the updates, thats true
[06:13] <tucemiux> anyone here uses planonlinux?
[06:14] <one_> wilee-nilee: well no psuedo only not born of a woman let me tell you this there is no decent to hell for the one who creates it
[06:14] <thoonai> help, my apt-get is coking himself
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> tucemiux: you mean playonlinux?
[06:14] <thoonai> choking
[06:14] <tucemiux> wilee-nilee, yes - im going to try it to play black ops
[06:14] <mtadyshak> On Ubuntu 12.04 I kill a minicom session from another window.  Now, in the window that was running minicom, when I type <Enter> it keeps printing the prompt on the same line, i.e., it is like there is no <linefeed> char being generated.
[06:14] <SixtyFold> bleh
[06:15] <thoonai> somehow java certs aren't installable
[06:15] <one_> pray for me
[06:15] <one_> because I am for us
[06:15] <dr_willis> mtadyshak:  try the 'reset' command in the terminal window
[06:16] <one_> ok
[06:16] <one_> now unlike chunkyhead i am going to power it all off
[06:16] <one_> pull the plug
[06:16] <wilee-nilee> tucemiux: it can be here is a link that might help, I'm not a gamer and only run word 2010 on playon linux.  http://www.unixmen.com/howto-install-call-of-duty-black-ops-in-linux-using-playonlinux/
[06:17] <thoonai> I've totally no clue
[06:17] <thoonai> :(
[06:18] <tucemiux> wilee-nilee, thanks for the link, let me try it now and ill tell you the results
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> tucemiux: cool. :D
[06:18] <thoonai> everythin I do produces a the dpkg process wast manually interupted, run 'dpkg --configure -a'
[06:18] <thoonai> help :(
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> thoonai: are you using the terminal and if so pastebin erors and commands the whole shebang.
[06:20] <jose106> i forgot
[06:22] <thoonai> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618504/
[06:22] <thoonai> wilee-nilee: searching for the english traslation
[06:24] <mtadyshak> dr_willis: reset in term window did not help.  Have to close the tab.
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> thoonai: this ubuntu why are you running that in root?
[06:26] <thoonai> wilee-nilee: because its an virtual server and I am root
[06:26] <robert__> The notifications in ubuntu take too long to change. Anyway to speed it up?
[06:27] <tucemiux> anyone knows of a USB sound card with an optical output that works under ubuntu?
[06:28] <robert__> tucemiux, search the model of the sound card and see what's supported.
[06:28] <dr_willis> tucemiux:  i always search the reviews at amazon.com to find devices people say work
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> thoonai: have you tried this command as well.  apt-get -f install
[06:29] <SodaPop_> #join
[06:30] <thoonai> wilee-nilee: I try the -f things the last, :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618514/ this happens if try dpkg --configure -a
[06:30] <thoonai> and then the terminal hangs
[06:31] <thoonai> wilee-nilee: this happens if I try -f: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618519/
[06:31] <wilee-nilee> thoonai: this a debian server?
[06:31] <dr_willis> err.. dpkg --configure -a     can take a long time to finish
[06:31] <thoonai> wilee-nilee: no its ubuntu 12.04 2 LTS
[06:32] <thoonai> dr_willis: how long?
[06:32] <tucemiux> wilee-nilee, it's installing!  But black ops is going to take 22 minutes to install o.
[06:32] <tucemiux> o.O
[06:32] <wilee-nilee> thoonai: leave ot the java info when you run the -f coomand
[06:32] <thoonai> and why does the terminal hangs and the process quits?
[06:32] <wilee-nilee> tucemiux: so long to wait for the fun lol.
[06:33] <dr_willis> thoonai depends on how many packages you got going.. its hanging.. because its running and hasent printed any output yet.. i imagne.. so its not hanging at all
[06:33] <dr_willis> thoonai run top in a 2nd shell and watch it perhaps?
[06:33] <thoonai> dr_willis: nothing happens :(
[06:33] <dr_willis> 'thats a rather vague statement.....
[06:34] <thoonai> there is no process running
[06:34] <dr_willis> top is not showing dpkg running?
[06:34] <dr_willis> does ps ax | grep dpkg show it?
[06:34] <Acidous> hi
[06:35] <thoonai> top isn't displaying it, ps aux | grep dpkg shows it
[06:36] <thoonai> but java is running
[06:36] <Acidous> does anybody know how to make an extrenal hdd a multiboot? im using windows but i want to make the multiboot with some linux distributions like ubuntu and other 2
[06:36] <thoonai> as top shows it
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> Acidous: the OS's will run prety slow.
[06:37] <wilee-nilee> Acidous: I don't do private.
[06:38] <thoonai> Acidous: wilee-nilee is right, but you must select the bootable device every time in your bios or you hva to substitute your bootloader
[06:38] <thoonai> wut?
[06:38] <thoonai> (07:38:19 AM) mode (+o ubottu) by ChanServ
[06:38] <thoonai> (07:38:20 AM) mode (-bo *!*@99-120-141-251.lightspeed.jcvlfl.sbcglobal.net ubottu) by ubottu
[06:38] <thoonai> is this?
[06:39] <wilee-nilee> Acidous: I do not do private talk you will have to use the channel, a external usb HD will n ot transfer the data as fast as the internal HD, they will ran rather chunky.
[06:39] <thoonai> dr_willis: It shouldnt take so long
[06:39] <thoonai> :(
[06:40] <IdleOne> thoonai: the bot gained +o then removed a ban and took away +o (-bo)
[06:40] <thoonai> IdleOne: the bot was banned?
[06:40] <Acidous> i dont have a problem pushing the f9 (in my case) to select the bootable device but i tried using xboot, then checked using the QEMU and it loks ok..
[06:40] <IdleOne> thoonai: no.
[06:41] <Acidous> then i attempt to boot from the ext hdd and nothing happened...automatically send me to windows
[06:41] <IdleOne> thoonai: notice the space between the host that was banned and the nick ubottu.
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> Acidous: you have a OS installed on the HD>?
[06:41] <thoonai> IdleOne: thanks ok now I see
[06:42] <Acidous> my pc is running windows
[06:42] <thoonai> back to my problem, somehow its not doing anythin :|
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> Acidous: you have top have a install on the hd or a bootloader in the mbr and something to bot to boot the HD
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> to*
[06:42] <Acidous> ?
[06:43] <Platz> hi.  shouldi prefer the 'ip addr/route' command over the 'route' command to build a quick temporary network?  Which is the preferred command?
[06:43] <wilee-nilee> Acidous: If you want to boot the external it needs a operating sytem on it.
[06:43] <Acidous> on the external hd?
[06:43] <thoonai> Acidous: sure
[06:44] <thoonai> Acidous: else you must use wubi or an vm
[06:44] <Acidous> so i must install for example...ubuntu then make a partition to install kali linux?
[06:44] <thoonai> but to run an os you must install it
[06:44] <chunkyhead> what is the logout shortcut on ubuntu?
[06:45] <galaxys4> there is an icon - a man with an arrow
[06:45] <galaxys4> it's on your taskbar
[06:46] <wilee-nilee> Acidous: you would be better using a big flash usb for this a disc hard drive will be rather frustrating, or just set up the internal HD to multiboot.
[06:46] <thoonai> dr_willis: how long should it take?
[06:47] <Acidous> well i think the best option is the live cd's hehehe
[06:47] <Anubis> hi. i'm receiving thos message: /tmp/(...):no space left on device.
[06:48] <Acidous> but if i only install ubuntu on the ext hdd can work properly?
[06:48] <Anubis> this is the output of df -H: overflow   1.1M  1.1M  0 100% /tmp
[06:48] <wilee-nilee> Acidous: Acidous depends on your definition of properly, I suggest you google transfer rates with internal and external drives.
[06:50] <lunitik> Anubis: Did you make /tmp a separate partition or just do the default install?
[06:51] <JamieThTpwrm> transf rates are curious.  looked at a walltime review for some ssd vs high end consumer hdd's recently.
[06:51] <Anubis> !paste
[06:52] <thoonai> I can't even install strace to look what the program does or tmux/screen to start in it because everything I want to do produces a do reconfigure -a
[06:52] <JamieThTpwrm> like other specs--the timing specs to drives sometimes come to depend on "other" factors.  size of cache or protocols the drives are using or something
[06:52] <Anubis> lunitik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618542/
[06:53] <lunitik> thoonai: have you actually ran that command? I'm sorry, I haven't really followed, but if you give me the output of any errors I can probably help you
[06:54] <thoonai> lunitik: it hangs and fails and does nothinh
[06:54] <thoonai> -h+g
[06:54] <lunitik> Anubis: I have no idea what the overflow filesystem is
[06:54] <lunitik> thoonai: that isn't helpful at all
[06:54] <thoonai> lunitik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618504/
[06:55] <lunitik> thoonai: what kinds of things are you attempting to get an error? (will look at paste now)
[06:55] <thoonai> lunitik: did this and then I did this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618514/
[06:55] <tucemiux> wilee-nilee, now its updating black ops, its another 6 minute wait!
[06:55] <thoonai> lunitik: then after 10 minutes I closed the terminal on my side and started a new ssh session to my server
[06:56] <lunitik> thoonai: can you please give me those again preceded by LANG=c so I have some clue what they say?
[06:56] <lunitik> thoonai: so for instance LANG=c apt-get install whatever
[06:57] <lunitik> thoonai: but add sudo to that, and if it breaks LANG= I'll be mad
[06:57] <thoonai> lunitik: what the heck?
[06:57] <thoonai> it worked O.O
[06:57] <thoonai> lunitik: I <3 u
[06:58] <lunitik> thoonai: I'm confused, I did nothing except try to get output in English
[06:59] <thoonai> lunitik: It fixed the problem, but the output is germen though
[06:59] <thoonai> german
[06:59]  * lunitik doesn't get it
[06:59]  * thoonai neither
[06:59] <lunitik> thoonai: I don't have to understand if the issue is resolved now, though
[07:00] <thoonai> lunitik: first dpkg said it was manually aborted
[07:00] <lunitik> thoonai: if you run into any more issues, let me know
[07:01] <thoonai> lunitik: thanks a  lot
[07:01] <thoonai> :)
[07:01] <sianhulo> hello people. I'm having trouble trying to stream a movie from vlc to my phone. My phone detects my ip as if it were straming but doesnt detect the streaming itself(so it sees my computer but not the wht's being streamed)
[07:02] <Amelia28> Hi I am having issues changing the owner trust of my key to my certificate, it says that change was successful but it doesnt actually change. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:02] <sianhulo> i've tried with some apps and all are the same(even the the oficial vlc app)and it seems that I can't see my streaming in MY pc, because when trying 192.168.x.x:8080 it just says 403 forbidden(though, for some reason i don't know i can see that i'm streaming something when entering 127.0.0.1)
[07:02] <lunitik> sianhulo: you would probably have more luck in #videolan (/j #videolan) as that is rather specific
[07:03] <sianhulo> lunitik, thank you very much
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> sianhulo: maybe this can help: http://maketecheasier.com/install-vlc-shares-in-ubuntu-and-stream-videos-to-android/2011/02/25
[07:03] <sianhulo> lotuspsychje, than you too
[07:03] <lunitik> sianhulo: Check lotuspsychje's link, but still you should consult #videolan if it isn't resolved there
[07:04] <lunitik> Amelia28: How do you know the change wasn't successful?
[07:04] <Amelia28> bc when I go back to the new is not highlighted
[07:05] <Amelia28> to the *menu
[07:05] <lunitik> Amelia28: try logging out and back in or 'source /whatever/file/contains/the/config' to reload it
[07:07] <lunitik> Amelia28: I would trust the output of the command, so this ensures your session is using the new config once it is set
[07:07] <Amelia28> @lunitik
[07:07] <Amelia28> got you
[07:07] <Amelia28> I will try this
[07:08] <c2tarun> steam somewhere downloaded 12Gigs for a crap game which is not working, now I wan't to delete it but I am not able to find out where is it? Can anyone please tell me that?
[07:08] <c2tarun> it is not in ~/.steam its only 9 KB folder
[07:09] <lunitik> c2tarun: I have not actually ran steam here, so you will have to bare with me to find it: please throw ls -a from your home dir to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:09] <Boston65> anyone running wine in ubuntu?
[07:09] <lunitik> c2tarun: Hmm, given that, cd .config and see there?
[07:09] <lunitik> Boston65: Do you have a more specific question?
[07:10] <c2tarun> lunitik, ls for home is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618566/
[07:10] <Platz> Boston65: I've tried a few programs in wine with varying success
[07:10] <Boston65> I have wine installed, but how do I get an application into the /c:/ folder to run it?
[07:10] <lunitik> c2tarun: askubuntu.com says it is stored in ~/.local/share/Steam
[07:10] <c2tarun> lunitik, for .config folder its here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618567/ but in that also I am not able to find out
[07:11] <c2tarun> lunitik, thanks a lot :)
[07:11] <Platz> Boston65: do you have an .msi or installer for the program?  wine will put it in the right place
[07:12] <jackingov> hmmf windows trolls are active here too
[07:12] <lunitik> Boston65: you just run the installer via 'wine /path/to/installer'
[07:12] <lunitik> jackingov: He isn't trolling, this is perfectly legit
[07:13] <Boston65> I thought you ran them from the wine config
[07:13] <lunitik> Boston65: no, you run them using wine
[07:14] <lunitik> Boston65: wine-config configures wine, not applications
[07:14] <lunitik> Boston65: There is playonlinux in the archive if you want a pretty interface to do this
[07:14] <Boston65> ok  will look for this installer.
[07:16] <lunitik> Boston65: dmesg will tell you if the CD was mounted, and where... else it'll be what you downloaded probably
[07:16] <Boston65> where is this archive with playon linux
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Boston65
[07:16] <sianhulo> ugh, cannot even go through the tutorial bc the first file fe have to edit "doesn't exist" and video lan is pretty much dead. I'll have to keep googling
[07:18] <Ascavasaion> I am trying to log into the student website at myUnisa, my.unisa.ac.za.  Each time I type in my login and password it tells me that I have typed in an invalid login/password.  I have checked Caps lock, and typed the details in my word processor to see if one of my keys is faulty, but all seems fine.  I am doing it through Firefox.  If I boot into Windows and attempt to log in through Firefox there it works perfectly first time.  A
[07:18] <Ascavasaion> ny idea as to what could possibly be wrong?
[07:18] <Boston65> from my desktop in Ubuntu, how do I get there?
[07:18] <lunitik> Boston65: I would just search in the dash for play
[07:18] <Platz> Should I prefer the 'ip addr','ip route' commands over the 'route' command to build a quick temporary network?  Which is the preferred command?
[07:19] <artrei> how to build using cmake?
[07:19] <Boston65> not there
[07:19] <susundberg> mkdir build; cd build ; cmake ../; make all
[07:19] <lunitik> Platz: ip() is preferred, but whatever works for you is fine
[07:20] <lunitik> Boston65: And you installed it?
[07:20] <Platz> lunitik: thanks!
[07:20] <Amelia28> I can't change trust owner to my certificate, it says it was changed successfully but when I check again my certificate is not highlight, non of the options are highlighted actually....I have logged out, restarted, reinstalled..Anyone has any suggestions?
[07:20] <Boston65> no I did not install playonlinux
[07:21] <lunitik> Boston65: What version of Ubuntu?
[07:21] <Arthur_N> I'm having trouble writing a file with dd to an SDHC card - after 1 GB it says device is full, even though it's clearly not. I've already tried with 4 different cards and I get the same problem with each. I'm really getting desperate now
[07:21] <Boston65> 12.04
[07:21] <artrei> susundberg what is the meaning of "make: *** No rule to make target `all'.  Stop."
[07:22] <lunitik> Boston65: sudo apt-get install playonlinux - but note it is only a frontend like codeweavers, if you know what the installer for this app is, wine thatinstaller will work fine
[07:24] <Boston65> Ok I installed playonlinux
[07:24] <lunitik> Boston65: that assumes the app actually works on wine... appdb.winehq.com to find out others experience with it.
[07:26] <lunitik> Boston65: playonlinux is good because it provides a GUI for all this stuff, and also gives some custom wine configs per app to make them work, but if your app isn't there then it won't be much help
[07:26] <Boston65> will try it. Thanks for the help
[07:27] <lunitik> Boston65: playonlinux should now show up in the dash, but the way
[07:27] <lunitik> by the way*
[07:29] <Boston65> yes it was, I clicked on it, now it says refreshing, now it says there is an updated version of it 4.1.9
[07:29] <sianhulo> can someone(with vlc installed)tell me if they  have this file in your computer? sudo gedit /usr/share/vlc/lua/http/.hosts
[07:30] <tucemiux> anyone here uses playonlinux?  Once you have a game installed, how do you start it?
[07:30] <Amelia28> change owner trust is kleopatra is not working
[07:30] <Amelia28> anyone know how to fix this?
[07:31] <Boston65> I'm at the install menu now
[07:32] <Boston65> when they say playonlinux, there not talking about games, they mean run programs?
[07:33] <dr_willis> it might be a good idea to check the playonlinux web site for tutorials on using it.
[07:33] <dr_willis> it can run games or apps.
[07:33] <dr_willis> you use the POL tool to run the games/apps installer i recall..
[07:33] <lunitik> Boston65: it should do games and apps, but transgaming isn't as open as codeweavers, so wine itself is more functional for regular apps
[07:33] <dr_willis> been ages since i last used it
[07:33] <Boston65> OK thanks will do.
[07:34] <dr_willis> I cant even rember the wine history any more..   WineX became playonlinux dident it?
[07:34] <dr_willis> or am i showing my age again. ;P
[07:34] <lunitik> dr_willis: not that I recall, playonlinux is just a GUI offering custom configs for various things in an open way
[07:35] <Boston65> I want to run a windows program power post
[07:35] <lunitik> dr_willis: winex is a closed version of wine using some proprietary thing for DirectX
[07:35] <wubino> Any shortcuts around 12.10 to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04?
[07:35] <dr_willis> Boston65:  download its installer   then wine thatappsinstaller.exe   and wine should try to instggall it.
[07:35] <dr_willis> wubino:  you go LTS to LTS  or  go each release to next release till you get to a lts...
[07:35] <dr_willis> so no.. ;)
[07:36] <lunitik> wubino: Not really, only LTS -> LTS and release -> release are supported as upgrade paths I think
[07:36] <dr_willis> if you want 13.04 - you may want to do a clean install..
[07:36] <replicant> silly question.. i've setup a linode server and would like to be able to have ssh traffic available via a subdomain like tunnel.domain.com instead of xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -p 22.. i realize this is not a "safe" thing to do.. this is just a little sandbox server for tinkering around with linux. at any rate, i've managed to get reverse proxying setup via nginx to have web traffic for different subdomains point to
[07:36] <dr_willis> since any bug reports would be best done from a clean install.
[07:36] <replicant> various sservices at different port numbers.. just didn't know if there was a way with ssh traffic
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Boston65: There are many native news readers available for Ubuntu.
[07:36] <sianhulo> guys, i'm getting "** (gedit:20607): WARNING **: Could not connect to session bus" when trying to open gedit with sudo
[07:37] <lunitik> dr_willis: You type too fast... from now on you have to type "s mississippi, l mississipi, o mississippi, w mississippi"
[07:37] <dr_willis> Jordan_U:  newsgroups? should be several in the repos
[07:37] <lunitik> sianhulo: don't do that
[07:37] <wubino> Is 12.04 getting better?  I really dislike upgradeing to "the new release" as the bleeding edge hurts at some point but 13.04 sounds like a winner
[07:37] <dr_willis> im quick on my keyboard on my tablet. ;)
[07:37] <lunitik> sianhulo: gksudo guiapp
[07:37] <Boston65> yes I am running Sabnzbd, I want to post also.
[07:37] <sianhulo> lunitik, gksudo is giving no logs
[07:38] <lunitik> wubino: yes, each point release brings some modern things while maintaining a stable core
[07:38] <lunitik> sianhulo: that isn't very helpful
[07:38] <lunitik> sianhulo: why can't you just use nano or vi?
[07:38]  * lunitik doesn't usually run GUI's as root
[07:39] <wubino> lunitik: thanks.... I guess I will stay the course at least until 13.04 is an official release
[07:39] <Boston65> thanks everyone, great info.
[07:39] <OerHeks> sianhulo, that 'error:  is not really an error, just a message.
[07:39] <lunitik> wubino: cool, 12.04 won't get the Qt Unity, but other than that, most apps should get upgraded
[07:39] <sianhulo> Well, then I have no idea, because gedit is simply not starting when trying sudo or gksudo
[07:40] <sianhulo> and I'm not fond to non-gui editors
[07:40] <Jordan_U> Boston65: There are many native tools which will allow you to post to usenet as well.
[07:47] <piMatrix> Hello, guys. I have a file called "myfile.mk" which if I am right is a makefile. When I run make "myfile.mk" it says: make: Nothing to be done for `linux.mk' which is not correct because the result should be an exe from a source file. I tried only with "make" but result is the same. Am I doind something wrong?
[07:48] <lunitik> piMatrix: Well, yes, question is what, which idk
[07:48] <OerHeks> piMatrix, "result should be an exe" ?
[07:48] <lunitik> File extension is irrelevant really though
[07:48] <lunitik> Unix defines MIME types, file names are just strings
[07:49] <lunitik> well, just text, MIME and text are strings, blah
[07:50] <lunitik> file myfile.mk will tell you what the OS makes of the file
[07:50] <piMatrix> OerHeks: I have a source file (.c file) and the makefile should compile the file and produce "exe". That's what I mean and this is why I think that "There is something that should be done".
[07:51] <piMatrix> lunitik: It says ASCII text
[07:51] <piMatrix> after the command "file myfile.mk"
[07:52] <dr_willis> http://mrbook.org/tutorials/make/
[07:52] <dr_willis> says make -f makefilename
[07:52] <lunitik> piMatrix: anyway, I would guess you need mingw32 since it is a exe for output you are looking for.
[07:54] <dr_willis> piMatrix:  you are wanting to make a windows executable from this code?
[07:54] <dreki> I am using a laptop with hybrid Intel and Nvidia graphics cards and I am using bumblebee to manage them. My Nvidia card has 1 gig of video ram but i think it is only using 256mb of it. I ran "lspci -v -s 00:02.0" and got "Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]" Anyone have any idea wht i can do about this?
[07:54] <piMatrix> dr_willis: thank you for the link: my problem was that I have several make files in this directory. When I run make -f myfile.mk, it works. Thank you guys!
[07:55] <lunitik> dreki: that won't be the full output of that commend, please give the rest
[07:56] <lunitik> dreki: also, are you sure that is the video card and not the onboard?
[07:56] <lunitik> Kernel driver in use: would help you differentiate
[07:57] <dreki> lunitik I shortened it  for IRC's sake one second
[07:57] <lunitik> dreki: paste.ubuntu.com
[07:58] <lunitik> dreki: while you're at it, lspci output too, please
[07:58] <lunitik> (it tells us enough to know what the video cards command would be, I'm pretty sure this is onboard)
[07:59] <dreki> I am not sure that is for the nvidia card, but when I "optirun" that graphics benchmark i was talking about, it runs on the nvidia card but says 256m vram
[07:59] <dreki> ok one sec
[08:01] <dreki> lunitik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618632/
[08:02] <lunitik> dreki: can we please see "lspci -v -s 01:00.0" now?
[08:03] <lunitik> dreki: the other one is indeed the onboard, btw... i915 is intel graphics
[08:05] <lunitik> dreki: Also, do you see why I'm using 01:00.0 ?
[08:05] <dreki> lunitik: i had to run optirun for that command to work so i would say that this is the nvidia card. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618636/
[08:05] <sianhulo> I had to create a new .hosts files because gedit wouldn't open with sudo and then replace the old with the new with sudo. how troublesome you are vlc.
[08:06] <dreki> yes i think i do understand why. because of "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 540M] (rev ff)"
[08:06] <sianhulo> But now I can finaly.... just control the timing on the movie. I'm oficially mad
[08:06] <lunitik> dreki: yup
[08:07] <lunitik> dreki: This does say only 256mb still though, I'm not sure how much I trust optirun though, is this something from nvidia?
[08:08] <tom_> how can I figure out why my 2nd (identical) ATI card is not being recognised?
[08:08] <tom_> lspci picks it up
[08:08] <tom_> but Xorg.0.log does not show any connections
[08:09] <dreki> Well because my laptop uses hybrid video cards i have to use bumblebee to manage them because ubuntu cant (or in my case xubuntu at the moment).
[08:10] <dreki> lunitik: http://bumblebee-project.org/
[08:13] <NotSoGood> If there any precautions to take when stuffing more than one graphics card in an ubuntu box?
[08:13] <NotSoGood> Like particular things that are shurely not to work?
[08:14] <Sonikk> NotSoGood: sometimes its hard even with one card. so good luck ;)
[08:15] <NotSoGood> Can i run ATI and Nvidia cards in the same box?
[08:17] <Arthur_N> NotSoGood: no that will not work
[08:18] <galaxys4> ati crossfire + nvidia sli?
[08:18] <NotSoGood> no
[08:18] <NotSoGood> just boring multi seat stuff
[08:19] <galaxys4> + intel hd isp?
[08:19] <galaxys4> s/isp/igp
[08:19] <dr_willis> are you just asking out of curiosity - or doyou actually have this setup?
[08:20] <bekks> Arthur_N: Why not?
[08:21] <Arthur_N> ever heard about a thing called "drivers"?
[08:21] <NotSoGood> I've been running multiseat with Xephyr for a while
[08:21] <Arthur_N> several graphics drivers can't run at the same time
[08:21] <NotSoGood> but be as its lacking good hardware accel
[08:21] <Arthur_N> at the very least not from different manufacturers
[08:21] <bekks> Arthur_N: Ever heard of the fact of using multiple devices, even from different vendors?
[08:22] <Arthur_N> graphics are different, trust me
[08:22] <NotSoGood> I dont want them to be in the same X session
[08:22] <NotSoGood> separate xconf files and instances would be fine
[08:22] <NotSoGood> actually separate X instances is what i want
[08:23] <bekks> Running different X sessions on different X servers using different xorg.conf works perfectly-
[08:23] <bekks> Thats how multiseat setup actually do work.
[08:23] <Arthur_N> I know that even SLI and Crossfire with 2 NVIDIA or two AMD cards are not likely to work well on Linux (since they don't make drivers good enough)
[08:23] <NotSoGood> bekks, being on a single card currently i have to use Xephyr
[08:24] <bekks> NotSoGood: Yes.
[08:24] <NotSoGood> Well i dont want to crossfire the sli
[08:24] <NotSoGood> that would be absolute complete bonkers
[08:24] <dreki> lunitik: while looking around on the website for bumblebee i found out how to optirun nvidia-settings and in there it says i have a gig of vram so i dont know why that graphics benchmarking program and lspci were both saying otherwise but my guess would be that it is a bumblebee issue
[08:24] <NotSoGood> bekks, so there is no problem running  one X with Ati driver and another with Nvidia driver?
[08:25] <samy_b1> do you guys know why would dhclient3 disable ipv6 on the interface thats running on ?
[08:25] <dreki> lunitik i just hope that programs i run are not really limited to 256mb of ram
[08:25] <tom_> i am unable to configure a second ATI card - http://askubuntu.com/questions/240316/xubuntu-does-not-recognise-second-identical-ati-graphics-card
[08:25] <bekks> NotSoGood: There shouldnt be.
[08:25] <dreki> lunitik 256mb of vram i mean
[08:25] <tom_> can anyone see anything wrong with my xorg.conf etc?
[08:27] <helmut_> hi
[08:27] <lunitik> dreki: They shouldn't be, maybe the drivers are managing it and not letting the kernel in on it
[08:28] <inashdeen> hi, is there a possbility to change the ui of libre
[08:28] <lunitik> inashdeen: umm, no
[08:29] <inashdeen> so sad, oh well, tq
[08:29] <lunitik> inashdeen: do you mean something else, like language or something?
[08:29] <inashdeen> lunitik: more of the ui colour i guess
[08:29] <lunitik> inashdeen: That will be obeying the theme, which can be changed
[08:30] <inashdeen> can we do a change specifically for libre?
[08:30] <lunitik> inashdeen: libreoffice supports firefox personalities or whatever too
[08:30] <lunitik> 4.0*
[08:30] <lunitik> inashdeen: 4.0 isn't in any released version of Ubuntu though
[08:31] <inashdeen> how can I do that? by the way , is there a way to put a shortcut to app on the upper bar of dash?
[08:31] <Amelia28> my decyption programs have stopped working and I think is a change in my system causing but dont know  what
[08:31] <Amelia28> I cant even create a key
[08:31] <NotSoGood> Wish id thought about the need for acceleration when i bought gfx cards last time... then i'd just get a bunch of cheap ones.... last time i set up multiseat acceleration was not a big deal for desktop....
[08:32] <Amelia28> is like something is blocking Kleopatra from working
[08:32] <lunitik> inashdeen: will be able to do something like this: http://m.h-online.com/resize/zoom/imgs/43/9/6/9/6/6/8/libreoffice-personas-79a1b8189f65c7ee.png
[08:32] <lunitik> Still not that much of a diff though
[08:32] <NotSoGood> But now it seems even scrolling in the fking browser is depending on gpu acceleration.... what has the world come to
[08:32] <lunitik> NotSoGood: can be turned off  :/
[08:32] <inashdeen> that is basically what I need? :) how to do it lunitik:
[08:33] <NotSoGood> Lunar_Lamp,
[08:33] <lunitik> NotSoGood: Why have the CPU do anything pertaining to graphics?
[08:33] <ikonia> NotSoGood: tone down the language please, removing a letter is not acceptable
[08:33] <lunitik> inashdeen: like I said, it isn't in a released Ubuntu, you need to find a PPA with libreoffice 4.0 if you absolutely can't do without
[08:34] <lunitik> NotSoGood: CPU is optimized for computation, GPU is optimized for displaying the result... you want the wrong tool to do the job, when the rest of the world understands what the right tool is.
[08:35] <inashdeen> lunitik: i am downloading one now though http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?nodetect
[08:35] <z3n0ps> \m/
[08:35] <ikonia> inashdeen: is that meant for the ubuntu version you are using ?
[08:35] <dreki> lunitik: It isn't. I ran that graphics benchmarking while I had nvidia-settings open and i could see vram usage was around 700mb. So I guess you were correct, the drivers are managing it without letting the kernel in on it.
[08:36] <lunitik> inashdeen: Could have just used this: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-prereleases but whatever
[08:36] <inashdeen> ikonia: it does says .deb, I assume its for ubuntu.
[08:36] <ikonia> inashdeen: then you assume wrong
[08:36] <ikonia> inashdeen: deb is a package format, nothing more
[08:36] <dreki> lunitik: thank you for helping me.
[08:36] <lunitik> dreki: proprietary drivers are neat
[08:36] <inashdeen> ikonia: well, i will run it first, and see how it goes, if the installation is all well, i will tell ya :)
[08:37] <lunitik> inashdeen: Please just do what my link says
[08:37] <ikonia> inashdeen: yeah, why not use a proper version, better to install something random that may wreck your machine then try to fix it, instead of doing it right first time
[08:38] <lunitik> inashdeen: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-prereleases && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:38] <Sayed> hiii
[08:38] <dreki> lunitik: also can you explain why "optirun nvidia-settings -c :8" worked to pull up nvidia-settings and "optirun nvidia-settings" did not? Particularly, what did the :8 part of that command do?
[08:38] <Sayed> anyone there???
[08:39] <ikonia> Sayed: more than 1600 people
[08:39] <lunitik> dreki: I cannot, sorry
[08:39] <JamieThTpwrm> 1688 of us are actually watching every word you say sayed ;)
[08:39] <dreki> lunitik thanks anyway
[08:40] <lunitik> JamieThTpwrm: eh, at most 20 are actually looking
[08:40] <Sayed> just installing Ubantu 10.4 server could u pls tell me which file system i use after creating parttion???? pls help
[08:40] <Sayed> just installing Ubantu 10.4 server could u pls tell me which file system i use after creating parttion???? pls help
[08:40] <ikonia> Sayed: it's up to you, the default is ext4
[08:40] <lunitik> I don't even remember what ext4 was like back then
[08:40] <ikonia> Sayed: you only have to type it once, the OS is called "ubuntu"
[08:40] <ikonia> lunitik: it was fine
[08:40] <JamieThTpwrm> a linux advocate geek i liked once berated me a bit for suggesting cpu operations get offloaded onto graphics cards--wasn't someone seeing the future of supercomputing at the time apparently :)
[08:40] <kgalahassa> someone can give latex chanel?
[08:40] <Sayed> but after selecting ext 4 itz not continuing?
[08:41] <ikonia> kgalahassa: we are not a yellow pages of channel
[08:41] <lurkki_> Sayed member to do swap..at leat 500mb
[08:41] <Sayed> i m giving 250 gb
[08:41] <kgalahassa> join #latex
[08:41] <inashdeen> ok thanks, is using ppa now. another thing is, is there a way to put a shortcut app on the upper bar of dash?
[08:41] <lunitik> JamieThTpwrm: It isn't even the future of supercomputing... supercomputers already use GPU's for physics simulations as long as I've been alive
[08:41] <lunitik> JamieThTpwrm: I'm 28
[08:41] <ikonia> Sayed: what tool are you using to partition it ?
[08:42] <ikonia> Sayed: actually read through this document
[08:42] <Sayed> i m using ubantu 10.4 server fresh installation disk
[08:42] <ikonia> !install | Sayed
[08:42] <ikonia> Sayed: it's called "Ubuntu" - not "ubantu"
[08:42] <Sayed> kk
[08:43] <the_dark_knight> Hi, how do I use github from command line like subversion? please help. google-search doesn't help.
[08:43] <Sayed> ubantu fresh installation after giving partrion space 250 gb for installing not procedding???
[08:43] <ikonia> the_dark_knight: it's just "git"
[08:43] <JamieThTpwrm> lunitik, it was the future back then--which they simply didn't see.  views of optimal uses for buses, processing units, and other components of architecture, sometimes evolve or otherwise change over time
[08:43] <ikonia> Sayed: read the document ubottu just gave you about how to install
[08:44] <ikonia> Sayed: it's probable you've not setup the partitions correctly
[08:44] <the_dark_knight> ikonia: hey thanks. I got it - http://www.vogella.com/articles/Git/article.html
[08:44] <ikonia> Sayed: and for the last time - it's called "Ubuntu" - not "ubantu"
[08:44] <ikonia> the_dark_knight: bravo
[08:44] <Sayed> i had divided partion in 2 equal spaces 250 for C 250 for D
[08:45] <ikonia> Sayed: there isn't a "C" and a "D" drive in ubuntu, thats why I'm telling you to read the install document
[08:46] <kgalahassa> what difference ext3 and ext4
[08:46] <ikonia> kgalahassa: later version more features.
[08:46] <Sayed> anyone ther??
[08:47] <ikonia> Sayed: yes, as you've been told
[08:47] <kgalahassa> ikonia, which is later version?
[08:48] <ikonia> kgalahassa: think about it, which one has the bigger number
[08:48] <ikonia> kgalahassa: which came first 3 or 4
[08:48] <RevBuddha> test
[08:49] <kgalahassa> ikonia,ok
[08:50] <Sayed> after detacting disk tell me the exact method how to create partion plz help coz dis is my first time
[08:50] <dr_willis> when in doubt.. go with the defaults ;)
[08:50] <ikonia> Sayed: READ the document you've been given
[08:50] <dr_willis> sayed #1 thing to do while reading.. would be make a backup in case the system breaks during the install
[08:51] <dr_willis> for windows.. i would be sure to have a dvd-recovery disk set made.. and backups of any imporntant user files
[08:51] <Sayed> i am installing using CD Ubuntu 10.04 server edition not able to find details itz showing of USB help
[08:51] <dr_willis> Sayed:  why are you using the server edition?
[08:51] <Ben64> why 10.04 too
[08:51] <dr_willis> Sayed:  if you want to play with the server.. id run it in virtualbox to leran how things work
[08:52] <c|oneman> I just got a vps, I can choose from several versions of ubuntu... is there any reason I'd not want the lastest 12.10... and instead would want 11.10?
[08:52] <ikonia> I give in, this is pointless, Sayed if you won't listen, you will fail
[08:52] <Sayed> coz we r deploying database software on it
[08:52] <RevBuddha> Oh god if this is your first time and you've also got a windows partition on there, you may want to download a virtual machine software like VirtualBox and to some virtual installs and play with Unix before you stick it on a partition of your hDD
[08:52] <RevBuddha> just sayin
[08:52] <ikonia> Sayed: use the desktop version - it has a gui
[08:52] <dr_willis> c|oneman:  i used 12.10 onmy DigitalOcean VPS ;)
[08:52] <dryhay> hi. sometimes my ibus stops working. why it stops? how to call it back? ubuntu forums related thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2116673
[08:52] <Ben64> c|oneman: you should choose between 12.04 and 12.10 depending on how new you want all the software
[08:52] <c|oneman> so theres no real reason to install old versions? I thought lots of linux people did this
[08:53] <doomlord> can ubuntu's default windowmanager do transparent titlebars (but opaque title text)
[08:53] <Ben64> c|oneman: 12.04 is LTS - long term support - could be good for servers
[08:53] <dr_willis> c|oneman:  if you got some legacy app that requires an old version.. perhaps.
[08:53] <Sayed> last time we installed but our main team member is not present itz on prority need to install server version
[08:53] <ikonia> Sayed: use the desktop version - it has a gui
[08:53] <c|oneman> are new versions significantly more bloated?
[08:53] <ikonia> c|oneman: no
[08:53] <Sayed> could u provide me url to download
[08:54] <dr_willis> c|oneman:  for a server install? no.
[08:54] <ikonia> Sayed: wwww.ubuntu.com
[08:54] <c|oneman> I'm gonna install GUI as well/
[08:54] <dr_willis> c|oneman:  and how to youplan on using the gui?
[08:54] <Capprentice> Is it possible to remove all various session entries (desktop env. s) from the login section ? I dont use them but they are needed for various applications. I only want to remove the entries.
[08:54] <Ben64> usually vps's come preinstalled
[08:55] <c|oneman> well, mostly I won't, it probably won't be started half the time. Does the GUI need to be running to run VirtualBox?
[08:55] <Sayed> which version u reccomond
[08:55] <dr_willis> Sayed:  12.04 or 12.10
[08:55] <ikonia> hang on
[08:55] <dr_willis> Sayed:  depending on how new your hardware is
[08:55] <ikonia> we don't know his software requirements
[08:55] <Ben64> c|oneman: virtualbox works on command line, but it requires a lot of reading of the manual
[08:55] <ikonia> if he was told to install 10.04 - he made need 10.04
[08:55] <dr_willis> i dont think he knows his requirements either
[08:55] <dr_willis> ;)
[08:55] <ikonia> Sayed: speak to your support guy who installed the last one - and ask him
[08:56] <Sayed> is it possible to deploy file server on desktop flavour???
[08:56] <dr_willis> Sayed:  install a service.. you got a server
[08:56] <ikonia> yes
[08:56] <dr_willis> desktop or server edition.. dosent matter
[08:56] <Capprentice> Sayed, this is not recomemded as GUI apps tends to crash.
[08:56] <ikonia> c|oneman: that is nonsense
[08:56] <ikonia> c|oneman: sorry not you
[08:56] <ikonia> Capprentice: that is utter nonsense
[08:56] <ikonia> Sayed: running a file server on a desktop install will be fine
[08:56] <Capprentice> nah ! i have seen it.
[08:57] <dr_willis> I set up my xbmc video player box as a file server..
[08:57] <Sayed> kk
[08:57] <Ben64> !fud
[08:57] <ikonia> Capprentice: then you are wrong
[08:57] <Sayed> itz not free available
[08:58] <ikonia> Sayed: it is
[08:58] <Capprentice> Hey I dont know what you used but I have tried deploying MySQL and APACHE on my class lab. That completely crashed the whole system many times. Some time it kicked me off to the logon screen
[08:58] <ikonia> Sayed: if you can't download the install file - I strongly suggest you just wait for the experienced guy
[08:58] <Sayed> itz giving me payment option provide me exact link dear
[08:59] <ikonia> Capprentice: 1.) you don't know - so you're just amking stuff up 2.) you don't know why - so you're just assuming 3.) you made a general statment "the gui crashes so a file system server won't work" that is just fantasy
[08:59] <ikonia> Capprentice: your personal experience of your lab does not men that is fact for the world
[08:59] <ikonia> Capprentice: the fact that you don't know what you used shows what a foolish general statement that is to make
[08:59] <Capprentice> yes thats true. I agree. That may be only me.
[08:59] <ikonia> Sayed: you don't have to donate
[08:59] <Sayed> kk i got it thankzz
[08:59] <lunitik> Capprentice: With what you've shared, it is impossible to troubleshoot
[09:00] <lunitik> Capprentice: also, apache and mysql are supposed to run in the background, they are not interactive applications and so would throw you to the terminal
[09:01] <c|oneman> what is the disavantage of having LTS, with the exception that new versions of LTS are released less frequently?
[09:02] <Sayed> thankzz for your help Ikonia :)
[09:03] <Ben64> c|oneman: a bit older versions of some things, for example on 12.04 imagemagick is 8:6.6.9.7-5, on 13.04 it is 8:6.7.7.10-5
[09:03] <dr_willis> Older software
[09:03] <Ben64> i like it because you don't have to upgrade every 6 months
[09:04] <c|oneman> can 12.04 LTS have older software than 11.10?
[09:04] <Ben64> no
[09:04] <c|oneman> can the apt-get repos be different/older than 11.10?
[09:05] <Ben64> 12.04 is newer than 11.10, theres nothing different about lts versions, except they're supported for 5 years
[09:05] <lunitik> c|oneman: You should always use the things packaged for your release version
[09:06] <Amelia28> March 14 ubuntu 13.04 beta1 was released and I think this is why kleopatra stopped working for me..........Do you guys know if there is a way for rolling back to previous version?? Thanks in advance
[09:06] <maxb> The LTS releases do not exist outside of the flow of normal releases, they are just a subset of normal releases picked to have longer support, and between which upgrading is supported
[09:06] <c|oneman> will there be less things packaged for LTS?
[09:06] <lunitik> Amelia28: Ubuntu implements nothing of the sort... BTRFS or LFS can do it, but Ubuntu has no tools to keep track of it
[09:06] <lunitik> c|oneman: no
[09:07] <z3n0ps> People , i get this error "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[09:07] <lunitik> c|oneman: LTS is a what the regular releases are ramping up for, 2 year super-cadence within the 6 month ordinary cadence to deliver things for consumers and business.
[09:07] <lunitik> z3n0ps: wait like a minute and try again
[09:07] <snowrichard> i'm using 12.04 lts
[09:08] <lunitik> snowrichard: cool
[09:08] <snowrichard> it worked better with my radeon video/hdmi sound problem in 12.10
[09:08] <c|oneman> basically I just want the "best" / "easiest" version for a linux noob. I don't want to end up reading a tutorial and then halfway "this wont work if you have LTS"
[09:08] <auronandace> z3n0ps: do you have 2 package managers open?
[09:08] <Amelia28> Does anyone know know if there is a way to roll back from ubuntu 13.04beta1 to previous version???
[09:08] <snowrichard> http://mypals2.com
[09:08] <maxb> Amelia28: No, it is not possible.
[09:08] <z3n0ps> *auronandace* , no
[09:09] <lunitik> Amelia28: I just answered that question  :/
[09:09] <maxb> Amelia28: Also pre-release conversations generally happen in #ubuntu+1 rather than #ubuntu
[09:09] <Amelia28> my bad thanks to you both :)
[09:09] <lunitik> auronandace: please leave him be.
[09:09] <Ben64> c|oneman: that won't happen, at least until the next LTS comes out
[09:09] <lunitik> z3n0ps: try again now
[09:09] <snowrichard> I'm getting a static IP Monday morning my cable internet provider said I can run server ok with it
[09:09] <c|oneman> at which point I can most likely easily upgrade to the next LTS version?
[09:09] <lunitik> c|oneman: ues
[09:09] <lunitik> yes
[09:10] <snowrichard> I'm starting web design consultant biz got 1 customer today, and another lady wants to develop game online site
[09:10] <auronandace> z3n0ps: synaptic, software centre and apt-get in a terminal should not be run at the same time
[09:10] <z3n0ps> auronandance : i have software center open
[09:10] <lunitik> auronandace: please stop, there is nothing good he can do about it... if you really want him to find out what is using it, lsof /var/lib/dpkg/* will tell us, but it does us no good.
[09:11] <lunitik> (actually lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock )
[09:11] <snowrichard> if you got a stale lock you can reboot and run just the 1 pkg man.
[09:12] <tom_> yay! i managed to get all four screens at least responding, although the 2 running off video card #2 have an X cursor and nothing on them (no wallpaper, WM bar etc)
[09:12] <lunitik> snowrichard: or you can kill the process accessing the file
[09:12] <snowrichard> yeah right
[09:12] <e11bits> is there some alternative for xmotd that integrates well with unity?
[09:12] <auronandace> z3n0ps: and what are you trying to do?
[09:12] <snowrichard> well i need to install a php ide.  bbl
[09:14] <tom_> if i had a separate x session started on a different graphics card, how could i verify that? is there a keyboard shortcut to bring up a terminal?
[09:14] <Sayed> i wnt help on ubuntu 10.4 server edition coz wanted to install server version only only thing problem while creating partion
[09:14] <tom_> all i have right now is a black wallpaper and an X cursor
[09:15] <z3n0ps> auronandace, I am installing Mysql client
[09:15] <Sayed> is anyone there??
[09:15] <lunitik> z3n0ps: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:15] <lunitik> z3n0ps: With something accessing that, you can't use something else related to packaging
[09:16] <lunitik> z3n0ps: so apt-get will not work with Software Center running or vice versa
[09:16] <lunitik> z3n0ps: close one to use the other
[09:16] <z3n0ps> lunitik,  that worked !
[09:16] <lunitik> z3n0ps: It would do
[09:16] <z3n0ps> lunitik, thanks !
[09:16] <auronandace> lunitik: that is what i originally told him
[09:16] <lunitik> z3n0ps: It is there to ensure apt doesn't get confused
[09:17] <inashdeen> hi, I am using ubuntu 12.04 and i frequently uses chat on by samsung, now that have a mobile app. is there a way for me to intergrate in ubuntu 12.04? or is it possible in 12.10? how cani do it?
[09:17] <Sayed> i wnt help on ubuntu 10.4 server edition coz wanted to install server version only only thing problem while creating partiotion
[09:17] <lunitik> inashdeen: what protocols is the chat app using?
[09:18] <Sayed> any1 there plz help
[09:18] <lunitik> Sayed: You will have to tell us more about the partitioning issue
[09:18] <Ben64> Sayed: you've been given the answer many many times
[09:18] <inashdeen> lunitik : how do i check it?
[09:18] <z3n0ps> I have wifi 2 installed but ubuntu doesn't show it.I tried "lspci" , it showed me this " Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)"
[09:18] <maxb> Sayed: It would seem unwise to install 10.04, when 12.04 is the current LTS
[09:18] <lunitik> inashdeen: Chances are Empathy supports them, but how to find out?
[09:18] <auronandace> !b43 | z3n0ps
[09:18] <lunitik> inashdeen: Are you using Facebook and Google plus, common things like this? What services or what app are you using?
[09:18] <Sayed> infact i want install ubuntu 10.4 server edition after creating partition space which file system need to give
[09:19] <lunitik> Sayed: The installer should assist you in resizing the partition
[09:19] <Ben64> !install | Sayed
[09:19] <Amelia28> that room has no activity
[09:19] <smartracer> hey i need a help
[09:19] <Sayed> but after giving 50% partition to c itz not contuining
[09:20] <lunitik> Sayed: What does it say?
[09:20] <Ben64> Sayed: you need to read the links you're given
[09:20] <inashdeen> I dont really chat on facebook, nor on g+. i just browse on the browser. skype shows notification, so does emails, dropbox, google drive ( insync). I created a web app for chat on using chrome, but it does not show notification
[09:20] <Sayed> asking for file system
[09:20] <Ben64> Sayed: and again, there is no "c" drive
[09:20] <Sayed> kk
[09:20] <lunitik> !ask | smartracer
[09:20] <Sayed> asking for file system
[09:20] <lunitik> Ben64: He is using c to say see
[09:20] <smartracer> i need to practice tail in my typing proogram how can i do that?
[09:21] <lunitik> Ben64: wait, I think you're right, I read it different
[09:21] <smartracer> i need to practice tamil in my typing proogram how can i do that?
[09:21] <Sayed> which file system ext3 4 or fat & how to create it
[09:21] <lunitik> smartracer: What typing program?
[09:21] <lunitik> Sayed: ext4... by selecting it in the installer
[09:21] <smartracer> any typing master program
[09:22] <Sayed> after selecting ext 4 itz not proceeding after creation of partition which step i need to use grab loader?
[09:22] <lunitik> smartracer: KTouch will do Tamil, its interface just got revamped too
[09:23] <lunitik> Sayed: I don't think the Ubuntu installer actually asks you about GRUB
[09:23] <smartracer> ok thanks lunitik
[09:23] <azi`> hello! i am trying to install flash plugin from the command line and apt-get fails while trying to download adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.275.orig.tar.gz
[09:23] <Sayed> after selecting ext 4 itz not proceeding after creation of partition which step i need to use
[09:23] <azi`> saying it cannot download it
[09:23] <azi`> this happened after the new update broke flash
[09:23] <azi`> is there a way to fix it?
[09:23] <Ben64> Sayed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[09:24] <azi`> it says the network is unreachable
[09:24] <lunitik> smartracer: Uhh, you won't actually get the new interface in the released Ubuntu... looks like this though now: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.10/screenshots/jpg/ktouch.jpg
[09:25] <c|oneman> whats this: /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index --force --quiet
[09:25] <smartracer> oh sad
[09:26] <smartracer> hey lunitik  i have another doubt
[09:26] <lunitik> c|oneman: update-apt-xapian-index is a python program which keeps track of the apt archives... --force --quiet is ignoring errors and running in the background
[09:26] <c|oneman> did it launch because I recently did an apt-get update
[09:27] <lunitik> c|oneman: probably, yes
[09:27] <smartracer> i want to install cinnamon in my ubuntu.after that how can i replace that with unity? reinstalling unity?
[09:27] <lunitik> smartracer: At the login screen, there is a "sessions" menu, choose it there
[09:29] <lunitik> smartracer: it will be something like this: http://iloveubuntu.net/pictures_me/unity%20greeter%20transparent%20panel%20oneiric.png  (the cog always means config)
[09:29] <lunitik> smartracer: Cinnamon and Unity will be in that menu rather than the stuff he has
[09:29] <smartracer> oh ok ok
[09:30] <Sayed> fresh installation of Ubuntu 10.4 server i had selected step of guided installation & given disk space 250GB out of 500 gb is it ok plz help need suggestion
[09:30] <Sayed> fresh installation of Ubuntu 10.4 server i had selected step of guided installation & given disk space 250GB out of 500 gb is it ok plz help need suggestion????
[09:30] <lunitik> Sayed: If that is what you want it is fine...
[09:30] <pingvin> hi i just found /sbin/mount.cifs being setuid root  ( -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root ..). Is that a problem?
[09:31] <Marek_> guys is anything wrong with using gui on ubuntu server edition in produciton if I am not used to command lina that much
[09:31] <bentinata> anyone here know google+ verification number?
[09:31] <Sayed> my concern is that automatic data parttion will get created of remaining 250 gb??/
[09:31] <bentinata> something like 32555, or 32525, or something?
[09:31] <azi`> this happened after the new update broke flash
[09:31] <Sayed>  my concern is that automatic data parttion will get created of remaining 250 gb??
[09:31] <azi`> hello! i am trying to install flash plugin from the command line and apt-get fails while trying to download adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.275.orig.tar.gz
[09:31] <Sayed>  my concern is that automatic data parttion will get created of remaining 250 gb??
[09:31] <smartracer> thanks to all
[09:31] <lunitik> Marek_: I am not sure how useful it'll be, but sure
[09:32] <lunitik> Sayed: It will not
[09:32] <Sayed>  my concern is that automatic data parttion will get created of remaining 250 gb??
[09:32] <lunitik> !repeat | Sayad
[09:32] <Marek_> lunitik: i guiess it make it easier for me becauise I am not used to linux that much yet
[09:32] <Ben64> Sayed: you don't need to repeat yourself. you've been told how to install many times. either read the documentation, or wait for the expert to come in and install ubuntu for you
[09:32] <bentinata> lunitik: It's Sayed. xD
[09:32] <lunitik> Marek_: There aren't really many frontends to servers though, other than web-based which you can access from other systems
[09:33] <lunitik> bentinata: umm, oops
[09:33] <lunitik> !repeat | Sayed
[09:33] <bentinata> So, this guy named Sayed try to install ubuntu?
[09:33] <bentinata> Can I help?
[09:34] <lunitik> bentinata: He is basically wanting hand holding, just needs reassurance mostly, he basically knows what he's doing but isn't confident
[09:34] <llutz> pingvin: no, its the default and needed to let users mount windows-shares (see "man mount.cifs" the "Notes")
[09:35] <bentinata> lunitik: oh, like all my friend that install ubuntu for first time.
[09:35] <pingvin> llutz: ok ty
[09:35] <Sayed> hey if guided partition is taking 250gb out of 500gb so i want to use remaining 250 gb to save my data how i will use n how to configure partion as a data storage of 250 gb @ lunitik
[09:36] <bentinata> Sayed: Did you have data on your 500gb partition right now?
[09:36] <bentinata> Sayed: if yes, then I suggest you to spare jsut 20gb for ubuntu.
[09:37] <lunitik> Sayed: Personally, I would just partition with 50 GB for / and the rest for /home, can then put data storage on /home and use it for your personal files... Ubuntu only takes a bit under 6 gigs by itself fully installed
[09:38] <Sayed> out of 500 gb i had provided 250 gb for suggested partition so wt abt data storing?
[09:38] <lunitik> Sayed: What bentinata said would also be plenty, depending on if this is actually a dual boot (I figured it was because you're trying to divide the drive in two, figured to preserve something)
[09:38] <lunitik> Sayed: You can format and mount the extra 250 GB later if you're not sure
[09:39] <Sayed> i already given 250 gb in guided partition
[09:39] <Sayed> installation is going on
[09:39] <bentinata> Sayed: Whoaaa. Do you know what partition it is?
[09:39] <lunitik> Sayed: That will be for your personal files and the system itself... right now it is doing nothing with half your drive, but you can divide it out and mount it where needed later
[09:40] <bentinata> I prefer gparted.
[09:40] <bentinata> So, does anyone here knows the google number for gmail verification?
[09:40] <Sayed> but HDD of 500 gb rest it want take for home
[09:41] <c|oneman> I'm only getting 700kB/s from archive.ubuntu.com ... do I need to pick a closer server?
[09:41] <lunitik> c|oneman: You don't need to, but that is pretty slow... do you really need to ask that though?
[09:42] <c|oneman> well, I didn't mean "need".  Should I, would be more accurate
[09:42] <theadmin> c|oneman: Yes, pick a mirror. The main server may have speed limits, actually, I'm not sure.
[09:42] <Nahita> guys, could anyone here help me with SSH?
[09:42] <Sayed>  but HDD of 500 gb rest it want take for home
[09:42] <Ben64> 700KB/s is slow now?
[09:42] <lunitik> c|oneman: depends on the connection you have... I download from us.archive.ubuntu.com at closer to 8mb/s
[09:43] <theadmin> Ben64: :P
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> Nahita  start with a question
[09:43] <Ben64> i remember when 7K/s was insanely fast
[09:43] <c|oneman> that was never insanely fast :P
[09:43] <lunitik> Ben64: same, so long as it was over 5 kb, I was happy
[09:44] <lunitik> Now I stop any dowload that goes below 1mb/s even if it's almost done
[09:44] <c|oneman> lol
[09:44] <Nahita> MonkeyDust: hehe, i just saw my mistake...  thnx  :D
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> Nahita  glad I could help :-)
[09:45] <bentinata> Ben64: Haha. True.
[09:45] <galaxys4> say no to fake fiber
[09:46] <bentinata> c|oneman: you can pick suggested server in the software sources.
[09:47] <c|oneman> if I install ubuntu-desktop will it autostart in desktop?
[09:49] <MorpheusXNL> goodmorning all
[09:49] <bentinata> MorpheusXNL: Its 5pm in Indonesia. :)
[09:50] <galaxys4> go party in the bali island
[09:51] <MorpheusXNL> just returned to good oll xfce. any tips ans what to install as extra
[09:52] <SuperMan> ?
[09:53] <galaxys4> xfce doesn't look like before
[09:54] <MorpheusXNL> bentinata, here it is 10 am in the morning
[09:54] <MorpheusXNL> galaxys4, what do you mean?
[09:56] <termospullo> hey guys
[09:57] <termospullo> I a unable to install updates for some reason
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> MorpheusXNL  http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-xubuntu-12.10-quantal-quetzal
[09:58] <MorpheusXNL> thankx MonkeyDust
[10:00] <tokern3> hi.is someone familiar with proxychains? i want to use socks i have user and pass and address and port number.in windows i used proxifire. what should i do in linux?
[10:03] <Roy1364> e
[10:03] <Roy1364> im booy
[10:03] <Roy1364> boot
[10:03] <tozen> Roy1394:boot?? ;D
[10:06] <Jewfro-Macabbi> tokern, to set a system proxy? it's available under preferences in the menu, or you can manually edit the file /etc/environment
[10:07] <termospullo> I'm unable to install updates or anything from ubuntu software center
[10:07] <theadmin> termospullo: What Ubuntu version?
[10:07] <termospullo> 12.04
[10:08] <theadmin> mk, can you reach the mirror you're using? Try pinging it, termospullo
[10:08] <termospullo> uh...
[10:08] <termospullo> how?
[10:09] <sam1> I sent a bug report (because we asked me to), how do I view it now?
[10:09] <sam1> it didn't take me to a website or anything
[10:11] <sunuslee> hi, is anyone there to help me debugging a network problem? i have three servers(A,B,C) in a subnet. A,C can ping to EACH OTHER. but neither of them can ping to b. then i check the arp table. A got the correct hwaddr of b. but b got the incomplete of A.
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> sunuslee  #ubuntu-server
[10:11] <sunuslee> A, B has dual nics. but i think i set up right. eth0 in a subnet, eth1 in another.
[10:11] <theadmin_> termospullo: Well... this is a ridiculous way to look it up but at least it works: archive=$(cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep archive | awk '{print $2;}' | head -n 1 | sed 's#^http://##' | sed 's#/ubuntu/##') ; ping $archive
[10:12] <sunuslee> A send arping to b can not get reply. but B send arping to a can get reply. but it seems like B didn't received it.
[10:13] <termospullo> around 450 to 500ms
[10:13] <sunuslee> anyone?
[10:13] <HappyMonk> hello !?
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> sunuslee  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[10:18] <hamid2013> hi how can i download videos from web sites that dont have download link just flash playes
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  with clive
[10:19] <Guest19080> hi I just suffered from a power cut and my hdd has failed. I've tried doing this myself but am not getting anywhere so I think I need the community's help now.
[10:19] <hamid2013> what is it how can i get it? MonkeyDust
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  example of what you want to download?
[10:20] <Guest19080> I run TestDisk and I *think* it recognises my drive but then it doesn't give me an option to actually fix the problem
[10:20] <hamid2013> for example from youtube
[10:21] <sam1> I sent a bug report (because we asked me to), how do I view it now?
[10:21] <hamid2013> for example from youtube MonkeyDust
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  in a terminal, type clive [youtube url]
[10:22] <Guest19080> And strangely Boot Repair doesn't give me the option for 'Recommended Repair' - it only gives me the option to 'Create a BootInfo Summary (to get help by email or forum)'
[10:22] <hamid2013> good but im in a sit that video doesnt have any usrl look http://careers.slb.com/recentgraduates.aspx MonkeyDust
[10:24] <Guest19080> I've run out of ideas so if anyone could help I'd really appreciate it.
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  i see no video on that link, not sure what you need or want
[10:25] <hamid2013> MonkeyDust: when u go theres a video in the right hand side u click on watch video a flash player will come up and play the video
[10:27] <kostkon> hamid2013, try this. 2nd most popular ffox extension. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  guess you need the page source, look for the video link
[10:28] <hamid2013> MonkeyDust: its java script
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> hamid2013  yes
[10:29] <BlueWolf> Hi, I have forgotten how to check weather my system is 32 or 64 bit how would I do that again?
[10:31] <sam1> launch wireshark, refresh the page, enter 'http.request.uri contains "flv"' as filter, enjoy
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  sudo dmidecode | grep capable
[10:31] <hamid2013> MonkeyDust: no other way?
[10:31] <sam1> hamid2013: ^
[10:34] <t_kjaergaard> Hi everyone! I'm having some trouble installing ubuntu on a Acer Aspire 1410 (old notebook). I complete the installation without any problems fra a boot USB, but when it comes to the first restart it simply freezes on the pink screen - no possibility to login.. I've tried to run the Bootrepair before i perform the restart, but with the same result.. :/ Any ideas?
[10:34] <t_kjaergaard> Specs here: http://panam.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/2009/acer/aspire/Aspire1410-11.6/Aspire1410sp9.shtml
[10:35] <Guest19080> if anyoine could help me with my hard disk issue i'd really appreciate it.
[10:35] <sam1> what's the issue?
[10:36] <Guest19080> sam1,  I just suffered from a power cut and my hdd has failed. I've tried doing this myself but am not getting anywhere so I think I need the community's help now.
[10:36] <Guest19080> sam1, I run TestDisk and I *think* it recognises my drive but then it doesn't give me an option to actually fix the problem
[10:36] <Guest19080> sam1, And strangely Boot Repair doesn't give me the option for 'Recommended Repair' - it only gives me the option to 'Create a BootInfo Summary (to get help by email or forum)'
[10:36] <WHAT_UP1> i just installed lubuntu (quantal), but it doesn't seem to come with wireless drivers. how do i install those? i can't set up a wired connection on this computer, but i do have another computer (the one i'm typing from) and some usb device (my phone + cable)
[10:38] <sam1> need some firmware maybe
[10:38] <Sayed> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:43] <zyngawow> Can anyone help me with my WiFi appearing as unavailable after an update?
[10:43] <WHAT_UP2> what complete idiot decided it's a good idea to have the wireless firmware .deb installer (package firmware-b43-installer) check online for updates before it installs, and fail to install if it can't connect?
[10:43] <cfhowlett> zyngawow, is this a broadcom wifi?
[10:44] <zyngawow> cfhowlett, let me look for the specific brand and all.. it is a rt2860 afaik
[10:44] <snowrichard> hello.
[10:44] <cfhowlett> zyngawow, ah, well.  realtek is out of my experience profile.  sorry
[10:44] <cfhowlett> snowrichard, greetings
[10:44] <kostkon> zyngawow, give in a terminal:  rfkill list
[10:45] <sam1> WHAT_UP2: someone who knows wired connections?
[10:45] <snowrichard> can someone look at http://www.snowgames.in and see if they get my under construction page? I just set up my router,
[10:45] <zyngawow> kostkon, no and no
[10:45] <kostkon> zyngawow, hmm ok
[10:45] <WHAT_UP2> sam1: not everyone can have one
[10:46] <WHAT_UP2> it'd be okay if it decided to just go ahead and install the old version anyway and only later look for updates
[10:46] <zyngawow> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Doc/images/29/c02211915.jpg
[10:46] <WHAT_UP2> but the way it's set up now is stupid beyond belief
[10:46] <zyngawow> this is the card
[10:47] <tortik> How to manually (what files?)remove extra languages from Lubuntu 12.04?
[10:47] <sam1> I doubt you have it on your computer already
[10:47] <sam1> it needs to be downloaded, no?
[10:48] <WHAT_UP2> sam1: i thought it would be in the deb, given the deb's description. the installer just says there's a newer firmware out there. i'd even go through the trouble to set up apache and edit my /etc/hosts so it tries "downloading" from localhost, but of course i can't install apache without an internet connection
[10:48] <Nahita> guys, could anyone point me to a good manual on how to run a program as a non root
[10:48] <kostkon> Nahita, what do oyu mean
[10:49] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: Thank you:D
[10:49] <GentSir> Nach0z, anything ran by user is only ran as root if you use the "sudo" command. The actual root account is disabled by default in Ubuntu
[10:50] <Nahita> GentSir: yes, thats my problem
[10:50] <jeveuxveux> When is ubuntu ready to be installed on my samsung s2?
[10:51] <GentSir> Nahita, what's the issue?
[10:51] <Nahita> Right now I can only run it my sudo, but I dont want it to have root permissions.
[10:51] <sam1> WHAT_UP2: try adding --no-download to apt-get
[10:51] <Nahita> *by
[10:51] <cfhowlett> !tablet|jeveuxveux,
[10:51] <GentSir> Nahita, what can you only run using Sudo?
[10:51] <jeveuxveux> Thank you
[10:51] <snowrichard> just set up a web server on ubuntu 12.04 http://www.snowgames.in
[10:52] <sam1> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer --no-download
[10:52] <Nahita> its. arm, a controller for tor.
[10:52] <WHAT_UP2> sam1: i'm using dpkg (since i'm installing from a deb), but adding --no-download doesn't help
[10:52] <GentSir> Nahita, sorry, that's out of my knowledge
[10:53] <Nahita> Ok, thnx anyway ;)
[10:54] <bjoern_> ahoy
[10:55] <Nahita> ohoy
[10:55] <bjoern_> hey Nahita
[10:55] <Night_Elf> Hi all. I am trying to put into use an usb modem stick, a Vodafone Broadband thing. It seems that the device is connected, the Betavine driver package installs and configuration starts, and there comes a part where it requests for a username and a password. What username and password?
[10:56] <WHAT_UP2> for the record, the url it tries to download from is broken
[10:56] <bjoern_> vodafone and vodafone pobably
[10:56] <bjoern_> r
[10:57] <Night_Elf> bjoern_: oh? I'll have to try that. But actually I have found no reference about this. Or I have been unable to.
[10:58] <bjoern_> where r u from, Night_Elf?
[10:58] <bjoern_> which country?
[10:58] <Night_Elf> bjoern_: Albania
[11:01] <bjoern_> got a vodafone stick myself, just checked, mine wants both blank
[11:03] <Night_Elf> bjoern_: oh well, just now I was trying it. Seems like it works with "vodafone" and "vodafone". I am in one of those "wtf" moments.
[11:03] <bjoern_> probably u could insert whatever u want there, doesnt matter
[11:04] <ishitva> Currently I am running Ubuntu 12.04 , but I want to upgrade to version 12.10
[11:04] <ishitva> what is the procedure for it ?
[11:04] <gnuskool> snowrichard: it  works!
[11:04] <Stdedos> sudo apt-get update
[11:04] <Stdedos> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[11:04] <Shell> good mornin everyone
[11:04] <Stdedos> ishitva:
[11:05] <Stdedos> I've compiled a command, though it doesn't perform as expected.
[11:05] <Stdedos> sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sudo sh -c '{cd /usr/src/linux-3.2.39-dev/ && sudo make clean && sudo make -j2 && sudo make modules_install && sudo make install && sh -c 'grep "hello_syscall" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success1' && sh -c 'grep "find_roots" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success2'} || {cd /home/stdedos/Desktop/ && sh -c 'echo FAILURE > Failed'}; {sudo /sbin/halt -p}'
[11:05] <bjoern_> sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:05] <ishitva> Stdedos: can I do it by downloading image of 12.10 sepeartleyy as well ?
[11:05] <gnuskool> Shell: morning
[11:05] <bjoern_> ishitva
[11:05] <Stdedos> no need, just use terminal on bjoern_ command
[11:05] <Stdedos> or*
[11:06] <ishitva> okay
[11:06] <bjoern_> what Stdedos?
[11:06] <Shell> gnuskool: How is everythin going along for you this new today?
[11:06] <ishitva> but it will download more bytes , isn't it ?
[11:07] <bjoern_> it will download what you need to upgrade
[11:07] <bjoern_> probably less than a whole image
[11:07] <WHAT_UP2> mwahaha. i trolled my computer into downloading from itself :P
[11:07] <bjoern_> depends on what programms u have installed
[11:07] <Shell> WHAT_UP2: hahaha
[11:07] <ishitva> okay
[11:08] <cfhowlett> ishitva, suggest you download 12.10 via torrent for robust error checking.  then md5sum check the ISO, burn the iso to a boot disk or USB, boot it up, run "check disk for errors" and proceed to install
[11:08] <ishitva> Thanks
[11:08] <WHAT_UP2> and it works! yes!
[11:08] <ishitva> okay will it also upgrade my ubuntu version ?
[11:09] <cfhowlett> ishitva, you'd perform a "clean install" and replace 12.04 with 12.10
[11:09] <ishitva> okay
[11:09] <ishitva> do I have to take a backup of my files ?
[11:10] <usr13> ishitva: Is there a particular reason you want to upgrade to 12.10? (Do you know about LTS?)
[11:10] <cfhowlett> ishitva, highly recommended
[11:10] <bjoern_> u should always have a backup of your files
[11:10] <ishitva> okay
[11:10] <usr13> !lts | ishitva
[11:10] <ishitva> usr13 I want to try the latest features , that why
[11:10] <usr13> ishitva: Ok, just FYI....
[11:11] <ishitva> Thanks
[11:11] <usr13> ishitva: Do you have separate partition for /home/ ?
[11:11] <bjoern_> dual boot?
[11:11] <ishitva> I don't know actually , how to check it ?
[11:12] <usr13> ishitva: cat /etc/fstab
[11:12] <bjoern_> or mount -l
[11:12] <Shell> any good books or anythin I could use to learn how to use the erminal?
[11:12] <bjoern_> the internet ;) Shell
[11:12] <usr13> ishitva: You can show us as well:  cat /etc/fstab |pastebin  Or yes, as bjoern suggests,  mount
[11:13] <ishitva> okay
[11:13] <ishitva> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5618955/
[11:13] <Shell> bjoern_: if you do know a good article or reference, please share
[11:14] <bjoern_> you dont, ishitva
[11:14] <bjoern_> also: ext2?? wtf
[11:14] <ishitva> okay , then what should I do ?
[11:14] <usr13> ishitva: YOu will have to backup your files because you do not have separate partition for /home/.
[11:15] <bjoern_> backup your files!
[11:15] <bjoern_> :D
[11:15] <usr13> bjoern_: You could use network install option.
[11:15] <ishitva> how to create a seperate partion for /home/
[11:15] <bjoern_> why not just do-release-upgrade
[11:15] <bjoern_> ?
[11:16] <bjoern_> usr13
[11:16] <usr13> bjoern_: Yes, do-release-upgrade  but you'll have to change the LTS switch.
[11:16] <bjoern_> it will ask you
[11:16] <bjoern_> if sure... bla bla
[11:17] <ishitva> okay let my try that , but it was downloading too much bytes that why I didn't conitnue with it as my usage is limited
[11:17] <bjoern_> how much do u have left, ishitva?
[11:18] <ishitva> around 3 GB
[11:18] <gnuskool> Shell: there are a few, there is an apress book linux system administration, there is a bash book by oreilly - there others Ive sed in the past but those helped a lot
[11:18] <bjoern_> should be enough
[11:18] <ishitva> okay
[11:19] <Shell> gnuskool: thank you. are both writen by Oreilly?
[11:19] <usr13> bjoern_: System > Administration > Update Manager and change "Long Term releases only" to "Normal releases"
[11:19] <larst> hi all
[11:19] <Stdedos> I've compiled a command, but it is not perfoming as expected
[11:19] <Stdedos> sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sudo sh -c '{cd /usr/src/linux-3.2.39-dev/ && sudo make clean && sudo make -j2 && sudo make modules_install && sudo make install && sh -c 'grep "hello_syscall" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success1' && sh -c 'grep "find_roots" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success2'} || {cd /home/stdedos/Desktop/ && sh -c 'ech
[11:20] <Shell> larst: Good Moerning.
[11:20] <Shell> larst: Mornin*
[11:20] <Shell> morning**
[11:20] <bjoern_> if you want to do it via synaptic or some other package management gui-stuff maybe
[11:20] <Shell> cant ype today -_-
[11:20] <bjoern_> but not in the terminal?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> apparently not ...
[11:20] <usr13> bjoern_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades
[11:20] <gnuskool> Shell: no, the linux administration book is apress
[11:20] <cfhowlett> larst, greetings
[11:21] <Shell> gnuskool: apress. thank you :)
[11:21] <Nahita> guys, should this worry me?:
[11:21] <Nahita> Mar 16 12:14:18 TorServer sshd[3093]: Invalid user a from 213.202.32.21
[11:21] <Nahita> Mar 16 12:14:18 TorServer sshd[3093]: input_userauth_request: invalid user a [preauth]
[11:21] <Nahita> Mar 16 12:14:18 TorServer sshd[3093]: Received disconnect from 213.202.32.21: 11: Bye Bye [preauth]
[11:21] <Nahita> from my log file auth
[11:21] <bjoern_> no
[11:21] <bjoern_> normal, nahita
[11:21] <bjoern_> :D
[11:21] <Nahita> take that times like 1000
[11:22] <larst> should I go for Ubuntu 12.04.2 or 12.10?
[11:22] <Nahita> thnx bjoern_
[11:22] <cfhowlett> larst, depends.  12.04 is Long Term Support.  12.10 is not
[11:22] <bjoern_> be sure to have good passwords for ur users, Nahita
[11:23] <Nahita> i think i have, but i have dissabled password auth in ssh
[11:24] <Boston65> How can I get my sound working in Ubuntu 12.04
[11:24] <bjoern_> much more secure then, Nahita
[11:24] <usr13> bjoern_: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  #To see if you are set to lts or normal.
[11:24] <bjoern_> usr13?
[11:24] <bjoern_> i dont want to upgrade anything
[11:25] <usr13> bjoern_: Is your system set to LTS?
[11:25] <bjoern_> ishitva is the guy you should talk to
[11:25] <bjoern_> im not using ubuntu, sorry
[11:25] <bjoern_> :D
[11:25] <usr13> bjoern_: Sorry
[11:25] <usr13> ishitva: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  #To see if you are set to lts or normal.
[11:26] <ishitva> do i have to type this in terminal?
[11:26] <usr13> yes
[11:26] <usr13>  grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:27] <usr13> ishitva: And you can just edit the file and change lts to normal
[11:27] <ishitva> okay
[11:27] <ishitva> it didn't execute :/
[11:27] <usr13> ishitva: Error _________?
[11:27] <ishitva> no error
[11:27] <usr13> ishitva: Did you hit enter?
[11:28] <ishitva> yes
[11:28] <gnuskool> lol
[11:28] <bjoern_> :D
[11:28] <Nahita> -ir
[11:28] <Nahita> grep -ir i think, no?
[11:29] <Nahita> hm, maybe not
[11:29] <Boston65> No Sound in 12.04, tried and read what I could find, anyone can point me to the right link. Thank you
[11:30] <bjoern_> less /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | grep lts
[11:30] <usr13> Did they change the file? /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:30] <nevyn> ok I have the wierdest problem I can move my curser all over the screen but only clicks in the unity bar get registered...
[11:30] <cfhowlett> ishitva, you can also check via ubuntu software center  > edit > settings > software sources > updates > notify me of new Ubuntu version: For LTS support versions  or for any new versions
[11:30] <usr13> ishitva: just do:  cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:30] <nevyn> any ideas on if I've enabled some accessibility thing or something?
[11:30] <ishitva> okay let me check
[11:30] <marcolandia> hola.
[11:31] <cfhowlett> marcolandia, greetings
[11:31] <marcolandia> cfhowlett, cómo le va?
[11:31] <usr13> I'm on LTS,  Did they change the file?  (/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades)?
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !es|marcolandia,
[11:32] <bjoern_> racist bots :D
[11:33] <usr13> ishitva: pastebinit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:33] <Stdedos> My command is not working as expected: sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sudo sh -c '{cd /usr/src/linux-3.2.39-dev/ && sudo make clean && sudo make -j2 && sudo make modules_install && sudo make install && sh -c 'grep "hello_syscall" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success1' && sh -c 'grep "find_roots" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success2'} ||
[11:33] <Stdedos> {cd /home/stdedos/Desktop/ && sh -c 'echo FAILURE > Failed'}; {sudo /sbin/halt -p}'
[11:34] <jelly-home> good grief
[11:34] <usr13> Stdedos: What are you trying to do?
[11:35] <jelly-home> build a kernel and shut down the machine
[11:35] <Stdedos> usr13: Compile custom kernel & shutdown + have some basic output (This is ok, all failed etc)
[11:35] <bjoern_> thats a miracle
[11:35] <bjoern_> :D
[11:35] <jelly-home> Stdedos: why are you doing sudo when already root?
[11:36] <Stdedos> dunno ... I made it all up myself
[11:36] <bjoern_> a miracle too
[11:36] <Stdedos> but it broke down as soon as I used echo
[11:36] <sam1> is there a way to make ubuntu not turn off my monitors when I'm IDLE, by emulating mouse/keyboard input for example?
[11:37] <jelly-home> Stdedos: at some point, you'd realize your oneliner is too long and make a script out of it... I think you may have passed that point
[11:37] <bjoern_> tell your screensaver not to start, sam-1
[11:37] <sam1> bjoern_: but I did
[11:37] <dr_willis> it may be a powersaveing setting also
[11:37] <Stdedos> so help me get it clean ... I can utilise solo commands
[11:37] <bjoern_> restart your x-system?
[11:37] <usr13> sam1: Look into the power save options
[11:37] <sam1> I did
[11:37] <sam1> usr13: I changed it
[11:38] <Stdedos> but I need some logic so I can leave my system alone
[11:38] <bjoern_> so deal with it :D
[11:38] <usr13> Stdedos: You need some logic?
[11:38] <bjoern_> he does
[11:38] <bjoern_> !
[11:38] <Stdedos> Like do this, then that etc ...
[11:38] <Stdedos> that's why I made it in this format
[11:38] <sam1> really? something is broken and I must "deal with it"?
[11:38] <Stdedos> It looked more familiar usr13
[11:39] <sam1> it wouldn't be as bad if X wouldn't crash when I try to wake it up
[11:39] <usr13> Stdedos: Familiar to what?
[11:39] <bjoern_> just a joke, sam-1
[11:39] <dr_willis> sounds like the PC is hibernate/suspending to me
[11:39] <Stdedos> to what my skills with linux are used to usr13
[11:39] <bjoern_> so you checked ur power saving settings and ur screen saver settings?
[11:39] <usr13> dr_willis: ... which would be power save setting, right?
[11:39] <sam1> dr_willis: really? I don't have any swap though
[11:40] <usr13> sam1: You don't have swap?  Why?
[11:40] <dr_willis> sam1:  thats going to really goof up suspending
[11:40] <sam1> I checked both
[11:40] <sam1> they're set to not suspend/never turn off the monitors
[11:40] <ilmondodiwit> fresh install of precise 12.04.2 and cheese, cheese crashes on startup.... any ideas (on same machine with lucid worked with no problem)
[11:40] <bjoern_> what dr_willis says
[11:40] <usr13> sam1: Maybe check monitor settings.
[11:40] <usr13> sam1: Is this a desktop or laptop?
[11:41] <sam1> usr13: desktop
[11:41] <dr_willis> Under brightness & lock  is one setting,..,.,  Under Power is a 2nd setting. those are all ive turned off.
[11:42] <zyngawow> Can anyone help me with my WiFi appearing as unavailable after an update? My card uses rt2860
[11:42] <sam1> I don't have swap because I have enough RAM and I don't suspend/sleep/whatever
[11:42] <usr13> zyngawow: laptop or desktop?
[11:42] <TK-999> Any luck with sudo modprobe rt2860 ?
[11:42] <bjoern_> maybe you should sleep sometimes
[11:42] <dr_willis> Hmm.. the power setting box shows my battery in my mouse. ;) must be a new feature in 13.04
[11:43] <usr13> zyngawow: iwconfig | pastebinit  #And show us resulting URL.
[11:43] <bjoern_> otherwise its really bad for your healthiness
[11:44] <usr13> sam1: You should have swap.  (I don't think you fully  understand swap.)
[11:44] <bjoern_> fucking robots? mouses with batteries
[11:44] <bjoern_> pss
[11:45] <sam1> usr13: explain?
[11:45] <usr13> bjoern_: Lets' try and keep language family friendly.
[11:45] <Ben64> bjoern_: watch the language, and we don't need you to editorialize
[11:45] <DarsVaeda> is there a way to identify power hogs in ubuntu, something that tells me what process drains most battery like on android?
[11:45] <usr13> sam1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[11:45] <zyngawow> desktop
[11:45] <bjoern_> just because of the f... word?
[11:45] <sam1> why do you say I don't fully understand swap
[11:45] <bjoern_> :D
[11:45] <bjoern_> hell
[11:46] <zyngawow> Usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619015/
[11:46] <DarsVaeda> I know powertop maybe there is something else?
[11:46] <Ben64> bjoern_: that, and you aren't helping anyone here
[11:46] <bjoern_> i try what i can
[11:46] <bjoern_> you are not helping anyone here too
[11:47] <bjoern_> you are just language police?
[11:47] <Stdedos> usr13: any luck with my "command"?
[11:47] <Ben64> bjoern_: no, but i'm also not filling the chat with irrelevant lines
[11:48] <bjoern_> you are
[11:48] <bjoern_> ;)
[11:48] <bjoern_> right now
[11:49] <usr13> Stdedos: You mean commands...
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !guidelines
[11:49] <usr13> Stdedos: How do you expect me to test all those commands?
[11:49] <Stdedos> usr13: not test them, they are ok
[11:49] <usr13> zyngawow: sudo wlan0 scan  #What does that do?
[11:49] <Stdedos> usr13: as long as you can make out the logic, it is ok
[11:49] <usr13> Stdedos: No, they are not ok.
[11:50] <Stdedos> usr13: Commands one after another are 100% ok
[11:50] <Stdedos> I can't just issue them all at once in terminal usr13
[11:50] <usr13> Stdedos: No, they are not ok, but I'd need to know more about your system to know if some of those commands would work.
[11:51] <Stdedos> Minimised Ubuntu 12.04
[11:51] <Stdedos> With build-essential qt3-dev-tools
[11:51] <sam1> the free radeon driver is so slow I think I'm going to buy a nvidia card instead ;_;
[11:53] <bjoern_> good decision, sam1
[11:53] <usr13> Stdedos: You need to re-think.  Figure out what problem you are attempting to solve before you continue.
[11:54] <sam1> bjoern_: is it going to be any faster? do nvidia cards have better support?
[11:54] <Stdedos> usr13: well the problem IS solved as long as I do not use a single echo and redirecting to file
[11:54] <bjoern_> my experience is much less problems with nvidia
[11:55] <bjoern_> but i dont know about the real "power" as i dont have any programs which need much graphic power
[11:55] <usr13> sam1: How big is your Hard Drive?
[11:55] <zyngawow> usr13, command not found
[11:56] <usr13> zyngawow: sudo iwconfig wlan0 scan  #What does that do?
[11:56] <usr13> zyngawow: Sorry.
[11:56] <sam1> usr13: I have a 120 SSD and a 1 TB hard drive, why?
[11:56] <usr13> I have to go now...
[11:56] <sam1> 120 GB*
[11:56] <bjoern_> bye 13
[11:56] <usr13> sam1: Just wondering why you decided not to create a swap partition.
[11:56] <zyngawow> usr13, iwconfig: unknown command "scan"
[11:56] <jelly-home> Stdedos: make an /bin/sh or bash script instead.  Use set -e near the beginning to make it bail out on any error. Add set -x while you're debugging it.
[11:57] <usr13> Sorry, gotta go.
[11:57] <sam1> even with caching I'm not using all of my RAM, so why bother?
[11:57] <Stdedos> jelly-home: I do not understand what are you talking about :)
[11:57] <TK-999> zyngawow: what about sudo iw wlan0 scan ?
[11:57] <jelly-home> Stdedos: make a script out of your oneliner.
[11:57] <zyngawow> TK-999, command failed: Network is down (-100)
[11:57] <Stdedos> jelly-home: I do not know how to do that!
[11:58] <ilmondodiwit> thanks for help
[11:58] <ilmondodiwit> bye
[11:58] <TK-999> zyngawow: ip link only lists your wlan0 interface as wifi, right?
[11:59] <zyngawow> TK-999, yes
[11:59] <jelly-home> Stdedos: great!  Now's the right time to figure that out.  Open a text editor, put in #!/bin/sh in the first line, set -e in second, set -x in third, then write down all your commands one after another, one in line
[11:59] <dr_willis> !abs
[12:00] <TK-999> Is this a USB adapter?
[12:00] <Stdedos> jelly-home: But there is a little problem - I got a logic in there with && || ; commands
[12:00] <jelly-home> Stdedos: paste it as-is now.  ";" isn't logic, it's just a separator and can be replaced with a new line.
[12:01] <coraxx> n e body know if scanning is possible via ipp in ubuntu ?
[12:01] <bjoern_> logic :D
[12:01] <dr_willis> coraxx:  what do you mean?
[12:01] <jelly-home> Stdedos: you can refactor && and || into if-then-else-fi later if you want
[12:02] <jelly-home> bjoern_: yes, && and || are boolean logic and control operators
[12:02] <burg> hello. what is /home/user/.local/share/zeitgeist for?
[12:02] <jelly-home> flow* control
[12:02] <TK-999> zyngawow: Is this a USB adapter?
[12:02] <bjoern_> jelly-home i was just doubting the logic in his onliner
[12:02] <zyngawow> TK-999, no, PCI card
[12:03] <bjoern_> oneliner
[12:03] <coraxx> dr_willis: If I have two machines ... one with an all-in-one printer connected via usb .... and another which I would like to scan from ...and do so via network ... can I "share" my usb scanner ? ..i.e. via IPP ?
[12:03] <TK-999> zyngawow: lspci -k -> https://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:03] <jelly-home> bjoern_: that's why it makes more sense to expand and rewrite into a more readable and more easily understandable script
[12:03] <bjoern_> i totally agree
[12:04] <bjoern_> jelly-home
[12:04] <Stdedos> jelly-home: Ok, I wrote the script, but there is totally no point in running it :)
[12:04] <Stdedos> jelly-home: where can I send it for you to see it, pastebin?
[12:04] <jelly-home> Stdedos: yeah
[12:04] <jelly-home> paste.ubuntu.com or any other... please don't use pastebin.com
[12:04] <jelly-home> that one's a bit annoying
[12:04] <jeveuxveux> Hi. I have my phone in download mode. and connected it to the PC through USB Cable. The Section who is supposed to change coulour to yellow or green doesnt change its colour ??
[12:05] <coraxx> dr_willis: (or maybe better yet ...create a virtual hplip-combatible server on the Ubuntu machine with the all-in-one printer attached?)
[12:05] <goodtime> just dcc it then
[12:05] <burg> it seems that zeitgeist folder has occupied all my disk space (more than 95gb from 120gb ssd)
[12:05] <bjoern_> jelly-home , why not pastebin?
[12:05] <Stdedos> jelly-home: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619056/
[12:05] <dr_willis> coraxx:  from what ive seen.. if you have 2 pcs with cups on both.. one is shareing a printer via cups (it has a share printer setting i recall) the other cups servers should see it.
[12:07] <coraxx> dr_willis: yes cups sees the printer ...and installs it find ... however nt the scanning function :-(  ...how to I get that feature as well ?
[12:07] <coraxx> dr_willis: *find = fine
[12:07] <dr_willis> coraxx:  cups has nothing to do with scanning.
[12:07] <dr_willis> that would be SANE
[12:08] <dr_willis> !sane
[12:08] <jeveuxveux> I'm trying to install cyanogenmod on my Samsung sg2.. I've downladed all the needed Zip files. and Odin 1.85. Now first step is to put the phone into downloading mode. then connect it to the PC. then Odin shall notice the phone. but it doesnt. can anyone help me?
[12:08] <TK-999> jeveuxveux: This isn't an ubuntu question
[12:08] <jelly-home> Stdedos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619066/
[12:09] <jelly-home> bjoern_: ads
[12:09] <jeveuxveux> TK-999 is a ubuntu question in a early stage.. after installing cyanogenmod my goal is to install ubuntu-touch.
[12:09] <bjoern_> ad-blocker?
[12:10] <jelly-home> bjoern_: why bother?
[12:10] <bjoern_> i was just curious
[12:10] <jelly-home> there are cleaner alternatives
[12:10] <bjoern_> sure
[12:10] <coraxx> dr_willis: yes I know that cups is for printing only.  But it is not clear to me who manages the protocol between the two PCs in regards to the other features the printer might have.  When you install a HP printer today in Ubuntu...the scanner feature automatically follow (even when sane is not caled for)
[12:10] <dr_willis> coraxx:  as far as i know - nothing does..
[12:10] <dr_willis> ive never noticed a network scanning service on ubuntu
[12:11] <dr_willis> the fact its an  all in one device means nothing other then it saves desk space
[12:11] <coraxx> dr_willis: ...however, some of HPs All-in-one printers requires an extra plugin for the scanning feature to work.
[12:11] <Stdedos> jelly-home: Ok, but does this forces every command to run after one another IF the previous was successful, else create the failed file, and shutdown?
[12:11] <TK-999> jeveuxveux: Did you check out #ubuntu-touch ?
[12:12] <Stdedos> jelly-home: *not regarding the output
[12:12] <coraxx> dr_willis: yeah me neither.  Maybe its time to develop a virtual HPLIP compatible server, so other ubuntu PC can attach printers via the regular HP-setup :-)
[12:12] <dr_willis> my printers are all stand alone networked devices these days
[12:13] <coraxx> dr_willis: thanx again for taking the time with me. Its always a pleasure.  take care and have a pleasent weekend :-D
[12:13] <bjoern_> just tell the printer to scan to a network folder, coraxx
[12:14] <bjoern_> and grab the scan from there?
[12:16] <coraxx> bjoern_: thanx for your suggestion :-)  ... however this current setup that I'm trying to establish, doesn't quite get solve by it.
[12:16] <jelly-home> Stdedos: nope, set -e will make the script exit if there's any failure before the if.  You want to shutdown at the end without exception?  You could add a trap doing that if any error happens.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619082/
[12:16] <bjoern_> ok, sorry
[12:17] <Stdedos> jelly-home: no redirection needed on trap* ?
[12:17] <jelly-home> Stdedos: sorry, trap has to come first before the command that might fail http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619086/
[12:18] <Boston65> any help on no sound from Ubuntu 12.04, volume  slider is greyed out doesn't move... Thank you
[12:18] <greenhorn_> I am new here and was looking for some guidance on a recommended vpn client that I will accept my pcf  file
[12:18] <jelly-home> Stdedos: redirection would accomplish what?
[12:18] <jelly-home> Stdedos: oh, that's just a typo
[12:18] <Stdedos> write failure into /*/*/*/Failed
[12:18] <coraxx> bjoern_: (I have a little hope that by making Ubuntu the primary printer/scan server ...one would be able to avoid the high cost of network all-in-one equipment and just attach them to the ubuntu PC instead...and get all the features you would get from a regular network all-in-one printer.)
[12:18] <jelly-home> so yeah, add it
[12:18] <coraxx> bye all :-)
[12:18] <Stdedos> :)
[12:19] <Stdedos> jelly-home: is this if valid? "
[12:19] <Stdedos> if grep -q "hello_syscall" System.map && \
[12:19] <Stdedos> 	grep -q "find_roots" System.map; then
[12:19] <Stdedos> 	grep "hello_syscall" System.map  > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success1 && \
[12:19] <Stdedos> 	grep "find_roots" System.map > /home/stdedos/Desktop/Success2
[12:19] <Stdedos> 	
[12:19] <FloodBot1> Stdedos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <bjoern_> coraxx : me too, but as long as it is like it is now i just do some workarounds
[12:20] <jelly-home> Stdedos: sure, and again there's no need to && with set -e.
[12:20] <Stdedos> just \ ?
[12:20] <jelly-home> Stdedos: each command in separate line.
[12:21] <Stdedos> I just want both the outputs of grep into (maybe the same) file
[12:23] <spason> Just did netinstall of 12.10 on asus eee pc.  Seemed like everything was fine, but now boots to terminal screen:
[12:23] <spason> Welcome to Ubuntu 12.10 (GNU/Linux 3.5.0-25-generic i686)
[12:23] <TK-999> spason: Log in & type startx to see if that helps
[12:23] <spason> Is there something I have to do to make it load up the GUI or whatever it's called?
[12:24] <spason> tk: thanks.  brb
[12:24] <jelly-home> Stdedos: you could even use the exit status of grep at the same time you're redirecting, if you really want that output, so there's no need to run them twice.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619097/
[12:24] <TK-999> First enter your username, then it prompts you for your password. It is normal not to see any characters; that's for security.
[12:24] <jelly-home> Stdedos: spot the remaining error
[12:25] <Stdedos> jelly-home: there is an error in the script? or if there is anything else I am on my own?
[12:25] <jelly-home> Stdedos: just the wrong variable name used in trap
[12:26] <spason> tk: it said xinit not installed, so i followed the instructions to sudo it.
[12:26] <spason> it is doing that now.  is xinit the nice stuff you see in ubuntu?
[12:27] <spason> I'm in beginner ubuntu 101
[12:27] <Stdedos> Ok .... That whole thing was hard
[12:27] <TK-999> spason: it'd start the X server that manages the GUI
[12:27] <Stdedos> thanks for putting up with me jelly-home
[12:27] <Stdedos> sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sudo
[12:27] <Stdedos> So I can use this compile.sh with this command
[12:28] <Stdedos> like sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p sudo compile.sh
[12:28] <jelly-home> skip the second sudo.
[12:28] <Stdedos> like sudo /usr/bin/time -o /home/stdedos/Documents/Full_compile_execv.txt -a -v -p compile.sh
[12:28] <jelly-home> seems reasonable
[12:28] <bjoern_> does
[12:28] <Stdedos> jelly-home: thanks again :) for putting up :)
[12:29] <Stdedos> Going to eat and test it ;)
[12:29] <spason> tk: no good. when i type startx it makes a little white screen in the upper right corner and still just has terminal line
[12:29] <jelly-home> Stdedos: not sure if trapping ERR is a bash-specific, I'd put #!/bin/bash instead of #!/bin/sh as the first line just to be safe
[12:29] <TK-999> spason: Which eee pc is this?
[12:29] <JohnD_> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu right now, but after custom install (sda1 - /, sda2 - /home, sda3 - swap) OS won't boot (/dev/sda was selected as boot location). Problem is that my connection doesn't work so I cannot install anything...
[12:30] <Stdedos> since there is no difference, it is ok
[12:30] <spason> asus eee pc seashell
[12:30] <TK-999> spason: Model number?
[12:30] <hpuser4466> Using ubuntu 12.04 with LXDE desktop.  Pcmanfm (file manager) won't display .avi files from my video camera. How to change default filer to rox-filer?
[12:31] <jelly-home> Stdedos: there's a difference if you run it on any system where /bin/sh is not bash.  Also, you'll probably need to specify full /path/to/compile.sh or ./compile.sh for -p if that script is not in root's path
[12:31] <spason> asus 1015PE?
[12:32] <JohnD_> I'm trying random things I googled on ask ubuntu, but I'm like a blind man, and I really don't know what am I doing
[12:32] <spason> It doesn't seem like anything is wrong, it just doedsn't seem to know I want to pretty pictures.
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[12:32] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, on what hardware?
[12:32] <Magoogle> hello
[12:33] <cfhowlett> Magoogle, greetingss
[12:33] <Magoogle> Anyone tell me if the /etc/modprobe.conf file is suppose to be empty?
[12:33] <JohnD_> gigabyte motherboard, intel i5 proc, ssd disk
[12:33] <lalondong> guys
[12:33] <lalondong> i need help
[12:33] <lalondong> i'm new to ubuntu
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !details|lalondong,
[12:34] <lalondong> i just installed this about 3 days ago
[12:34] <TK-999> spason: Anything in ls /var/log | grep Xorg ?
[12:34] <lalondong> i've installed aircrack following the instruction from this site : http://www.riyazwalikar.com/2010/12/installing-aircrack-ng-on-ubuntu-1204.html
[12:34] <spason> TK: mac user here.  You gotta speak point and click.  :)
[12:34] <TK-999> Just type: ls /var/log | grep Xorg
[12:35] <cfhowlett> lalondong, aircrack isn't supported here.
[12:35] <lalondong> but when i try to cd aircrack-ng-1.1 ,  it says no such directory
[12:35] <bjoern_> ohh no
[12:35] <lalondong> i'm sorry, i'm really new to ubuntu, i've just installed this about 3 days ago
[12:36] <cfhowlett> lalondong, check with the aircrack site for support.
[12:36] <JohnD_> can I create boot partition with gparted?
[12:36] <lalondong> is there any irc channel for that?
[12:36] <spason> Xorg.log.0
[12:36] <JohnD_> boot only that is, is there a point in doing such a thing?
[12:36] <spason> Xorg.log.old
[12:36] <cfhowlett> lalondong, check their site for those details.
[12:36] <lalondong> ok, thankyou
[12:36] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, yes you can
[12:37] <TK-999> spason: Could you paste the output of sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.log.0 to https://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[12:37] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: how big? can it be /dev/sda4? is boot flag only required? how to install this grub on it?
[12:38] <spason> not sure.  how do i do that from terminal?
[12:38] <spason> i can type that command and copy it, but then what?
[12:38] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: and most importantly can it help?
[12:38] <TK-999> Type the command and copy its output to https://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:39] <TK-999> If it's a huge wall of text, copy the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[12:39] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, no size limit that I know of, boot flaggable is you wish, and you can direct grub to install it there.  Help?  sorry I must have missed the issue you're trying to fix ...
[12:39] <spason> tk : i don't know how
[12:39] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, you can install grub to any partition you want
[12:39] <spason> i don't have any windows.
[12:40] <TK-999> Oh yes... Any visible errors in there?
[12:40] <spason> tk: sorry for my ignorance!  I don't even know how to highlight things with no mouse.
[12:40] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: I've installed ubuntu and it is where it should be (/dev/sda1 - /, /dev/sda2 - /home, /dev/sda3 - swap) but it doesn't boot
[12:40] <spason> hang  on...it's long!
[12:41] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, no error messages?  does it boot fail at the same point each time?
[12:41] <JohnD_> I got a message that no bootable device
[12:41] <spason> I can't even scroll up.
[12:42] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: although it is set in bios as first device to boot from
[12:42] <TK-999> spason: Run cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less and tell me if there are any errors
[12:42] <TK-999> With less, you can scroll with the arrow keys and PgUP/Down
[12:42] <JohnD_> I can only run ubuntu from usb stick, and I don't have even internet there
[12:42] <llutz> TK-999: easier: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:42] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, if this is a newish machine, I'd GUESS you might be seeing a gpt/mbr confusion ...  I had this happen when I installed to an ihackintosh.  Had to rewrite the partition table and it was fixed ...
[12:42] <lalondong> okey guys. i need another help
[12:43] <lalondong> how do i find some folders in my system
[12:43] <lalondong> ?
[12:43] <TK-999> Thanks - spason: In that case, try what llutz posted
[12:43] <llutz> lalondong: find / -type d -iname '*pattern*'
[12:43] <Magoogle> anyone explain to me how to change a driver? My cctv card is showing up as Philips SAA7134, but its a bt878 card.
[12:43] <lalondong> what is *pattern mean?
[12:43] <lalondong> sorry i'm new to ubuntu
[12:43] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: ....
[12:44] <llutz> lalondong: parts of the dirname
[12:44] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, yep ...
[12:44] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: is there something i can do right now?
[12:44] <spason> nightmare.  how do i get back to the terminal line once it says END, (after TK's command)
[12:45] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, basic check first: did you md5sum the ISO, and did you "check disk for error" when you booted?
[12:45] <JohnD_> I mean something simple, I'm guessing that this grub is not installed
[12:45] <llutz> spason: press "q"
[12:45] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: yep, I've done check disk for error
[12:45] <alocer> hello guys
[12:45] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, easiest thing is to just re-install grub ...
[12:45] <cfhowlett> alocer, greetings
[12:45] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: how?
[12:45] <spason> promise me switching to linux is worth it.
[12:46] <JohnD_> grub-reinstall ?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !grub|JohnD_,
[12:46] <cfhowlett> spason, no promises.  Have you a specific support question?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, do the "restore grub" option.
[12:46] <alocer> q --> proxychains  dosent support '443' port any thing that support '443' port and have the same use
[12:46] <TK-999> spason: type q
[12:47] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: I was trying grub-install /dev/sda but that gave me path /boot/grub is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[12:47] <spason> Ok.  I typed grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the only thing that comes up is
[12:47] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, ah.  is this a dual boot machine?
[12:47] <JohnD_> no
[12:48] <JohnD_> I mean its no boot
[12:48] <spason> 32.223] initializing built in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[12:48] <BluesKaj> spason, there are no guarantees ni life or computing
[12:48] <JohnD_> I just put it together and ubuntu from usb was my first boot
[12:48] <spason> and EE is in red letters, as if an error had occurred. but it's just because they happen to be together right?
[12:49] <spason> blues: true, true.  I just was hoping this would be a little less painful.  it took me a week to get this computer I'm on going, (mac ppc g4), so i figured a little netbook would be a snap.
[12:49] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, thinking
[12:49] <TK-999> It just highlights the expression - anything else besides
[12:49] <spason> tk: nothing else.
[12:50] <spason> What makes the gui load?
[12:51] <spason> There are some WWs in var/log/xorg
[12:51] <TK-999> spason: startx would make it. Are you sure you installed Ubuntu and not Ubuntu Server?
[12:51] <spason> i'm not sure of anything!
[12:51] <bjoern_> spason: the load guy ;)
[12:52] <spason> get the load guy over here then!
[12:52] <spason> tk: if i did that, am I F'd?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> JohnD_, I'd suggest you reinstall ubuntu and run with the defaults EXCEPT to put the /home in a dedicated, separate partition NOT under /    put grub in the default sda/dev
[12:52] <TK-999> spason: If that happened, you could just reinstall normal Ubuntu
[12:52] <spason> from terminal?
[12:53] <bjoern_> from cd/dvd/usb
[12:53] <spason> no cd
[12:53] <bjoern_> usb
[12:53] <bjoern_> or by praying
[12:53] <spason> no usb
[12:53] <bjoern_> then praying
[12:53] <spason> but wait
[12:53] <TK-999> No USB? How did you install it then?
[12:54] <spason> from internet
[12:54] <spason> on hard disk
[12:54] <spason> unetbootin on hard disk
[12:54] <bjoern_> no usb?
[12:54] <spason> i have usb, just no stick with ubuntu on it
[12:54] <spason> because that's a whole 'nother story re: mac osx powerpc
[12:54] <bjoern_> you could create one
[12:54] <bjoern_> not difficult
[12:54] <spason> tell me how
[12:55] <spason> if you have time.  :)
[12:55] <bjoern_> u r on mac osx right now?
[12:55] <spason> no.  but i have that too.
[12:55] <spason> i have a powerbook i'm on running ubuntu 10.04
[12:55] <bjoern_> whats your system right now?
[12:55] <spason> and a mac mini that still has osx on it
[12:55] <bjoern_> ok
[12:55] <bjoern_> 10.04?
[12:56] <spason> yeah, it's the one that was suggested works well with powerpc architecture
[12:56] <spason> and does, so far.
[12:56] <spason> is there a way to see if i installed the server instead of the one i want?
[12:57] <spason> it says Wecome to Ubuntu 12.10 (GNU/Linux 3.5.0-25-generic i686)
[12:57] <bjoern_> im sorry, i really dont know about ppc
[12:57] <spason> It's a nightmare!
[12:57] <bjoern_> never used any apple product
[12:58] <spason> I love them, but their technology has outpaced my income.
[12:58] <spason> so
[12:58] <bjoern_> the technology?
[12:58] <bjoern_> :D
[12:58] <spason> well, i mean only that they have ditched the architecture in my computers, and so fuck them.
[12:59] <spason> can you swear in here?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !language
[12:59] <spason> sorry! anyway, if you had a netbook that booted into ubuntu but only the terminal, but wanted it to boot to the graphical interface, what would you do?
[13:00] <somsip> spason: install a graphical interface
[13:00] <schnuffle> Install the correct GUi
[13:00] <cute_bettong> sudo start lightdm?
[13:00] <spason> how do i do that?
[13:01] <spason> I think it's installed right, i just think that pretty part is missing.
[13:01] <spason> excuse my hi-tech lingo.
[13:01] <somsip> spason: find one you like. Then find if it has a package in ubuntu and 'sudo install desktop-I-like'
[13:01] <spason> somsip: i like the regular one.  what is it called?
[13:02] <somsip> spason: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109430/commands-for-installing-unity-on-ubuntu-minimal-desktop
[13:02] <schnuffle> Spason if it doesnt work there mostly a problem with the correct graphic driver, the default is ubuntu-desktop
[13:03] <spason> this is exciting!  I feel like it's 1989 again and I just got the new DOS 3.3!
[13:03] <Kartagis> has youtube's API changed? because I haven't been able to use youtube-dl for a while
[13:04] <TLM> how do i change my name and computer name in terminal?
[13:04] <TK-999> TLM: sudo echo yourhostname > /etc/hostname
[13:05] <spason> By the way, thank you all for being here.  I'd have scrapped any notion of even using ubuntu weeks ago if it weren't for all your incredible help.
[13:05] <TLM> TK-999 permission denied even with sudo
[13:06] <TLM> there is another simple way to do it using alias
[13:06] <TLM> i only want to do it temporarily
[13:07] <spason> is it possible that the installer asked me if i want to put a desktop on there and i said no?
[13:07] <schnuffle> Spason, if you used the server image then it wont install GUI
[13:07] <TLM> how do i change my name and computer name in terminal temporarily?
[13:08] <spason> not saying it's impossible, but i don't think i did that.
[13:08] <schnuffle> Tlm: you can change then env variable PS1
[13:09] <TLM> ahhh that's the once, thanks schnuffle
[13:09] <schnuffle> Spason check dmesg and /var/log/x11 to look for problems
[13:09] <spason> well, it's installing the desktop now i think
[13:09] <spason> lots of stuff!
[13:09] <schnuffle> Tlm but that only changes your prompt, nothing more
[13:11] <Kartagis> has youtube's API changed? because I haven't been able to use youtube-dl for a while
[13:12] <TLM> that's all i wanted, cheers
[13:14] <eitch> hi guys. I've got a weird problem in 12.10. I use the facebook integration in firefox and message always crackle. This is very annoying. I had a similar issue with skype and there i needed to disable a pulseaudio plugin. Anyone know anything?
[13:15] <hamid1990> hi i want to download videos from this site http://careers.slb.com/recentgraduates.aspx how?
[13:17] <gerep> Hello world. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 for about 4-5 months and since yesterday it is terribly slow to load Unity, any ideas?
[13:17] <Boston65> no sound in Ubuntu 12.04, sound card not found. Help please...Thank you
[13:18] <jose106> hamid1990, you could use videoconverter with firefox
[13:18] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: I just reinstalled using default options (ubuntu on full hdd), it worked, but its not what I wanted...
[13:18] <hamid1990> jose106: how can i get that?
[13:19] <TK-999> gerep: It might be that you are not using GPU rendering for some reason
[13:20] <JohnD_> cfhowlett: I will try to reinstall it again and create my set of partitions, maybe somehow it will startup this time (since it did something to this /dev/sda)... I don't know,..
[13:20] <TK-999> inxi -Xg
[13:21] <jose106> hamid1990, open firefox and under extensions search for videoconverter, install it
[13:21] <spason> shouuld installing the desktop take a really long time?
[13:22] <ars23> does anybody knows an application for linux like pspice? an application that creates/edit an electrical scheme and simulates it...
[13:22] <dr_willis> !find pspice
[13:23] <dr_willis> should be spice in the repos of some form
[13:23] <ars23> ok... thanks!
[13:23] <llutz> !info ngspice
[13:23] <llutz> ars ^ ^
[13:24] <spason> Well, while I'm waiting for the desktop to download, i have some other burning ubuntu questions.
[13:24] <spason> Do you guys only use software from ubuntu, or is it safe to use other ppas etc?
[13:24] <ars23> thanks
[13:24] <dr_willis> depenmds on the ppa
[13:25] <JohnD_> by default ubuntu created fat32 partition with boot flag, 200 Mb, and then sda2 is ext2 (240 Mb) - what is this one used for?
[13:25] <JohnD_> last one is lvm2 pv? why not ext4??
[13:25] <spason> dr willis: what does it depend on?
[13:26] <dr_willis> whos handl;ing the ppa
[13:27] <JohnD_> why no swap partition by default?
[13:28] <dr_willis> sounds like the installer screwed up. swap partiotns by default is the defauilt ;)
[13:30] <spason> is there a command in terminal that just installs ubuntu if you are hooked to ethernet?
[13:30] <llutz> JohnD_: it's an UEFI system? then the 200MB fat-partition is efi-boot
[13:31] <spason> is sudo apt-install ubuntu desktop a ginormous task?
[13:32] <spason> my screen has been scrolling for like 15 minutes
[13:32] <TK-999> sudo apt-get install unity
[13:32] <spason> too late
[13:32] <doomlord> canubuntus windowmanager do transparent titlebars
[13:32] <spason> i wrote ubuntu desktop
[13:32] <spason> is that bad?
[13:33] <spason> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205376/ubuntu-12-10-unity-wont-start-on-startup
[13:34] <spason> sorry, i meant http://askubuntu.com/questions/109430/commands-for-installing-unity-on-ubuntu-minimal-desktop
[13:34] <spason> Did I mess up?
[13:34] <TK-999> no problem, that's also good
[13:39] <spason> TK: I think it's working!!
[13:40] <TK-999> I'm sure you'll like it and eventually migrate to Arch :P
[13:40] <spason> holy sh  holy moley!  it worked!!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!
[13:40] <spason> I'm sure I'll be back soon!
[13:41] <spason> Ok, I'm back.
[13:41] <spason> TK, if you've got time- one more thing.  :)
[13:41] <TK-999> sure, go ahead
[13:41] <spason> the wireless doesn't show up.  Do i have to install something for that?
[13:43] <Squarepy_> check additional drivers under system settings spason
[13:43] <spason> ty
[13:43] <spason> So, is it easy to change desktops if you find a different one you like?
[13:43] <chunkyhead> can we make shell out of bind commands?
[13:44] <lalondong> guys
[13:44] <lalondong> how to install wireless driver on ubuntu?
[13:44] <Squarepy_> spason, yes, just install and login logout, selecting the session you want
[13:45] <Squarepy_> lalondong, more info
[13:45] <spason> very cool.
[13:46] <smallfoot-> How can I find out what *real* kernel I use? uname -a, shows "3.8.0-12-generic #21-Ubuntu" is that 3.8.0 or 3.8.3? Why not 3.8.3?
[13:46] <schnuffle> smallfoot-: your kernel is 3.8.0 why should it be 3.8.3
[13:46] <TK-999> !latest | smallfoot
[13:47] <jdukiet> hello, i am running 12.04 LTS and was wondering if i could assign a shortcut for the wheel button on my mouse to the virtual window button on the launcher?
[13:47] <lalondong1> do i have to install wireless driver? and how to install them?
[13:47] <Squarepy_> lalondong, please do not re-ask and provide more info
[13:47] <smallfoot-> TK-999, but 3.8.0 is stable, then 3.8.3 has no new features, only bug fixes, so it should make it even more stable
[13:48] <schnuffle> lalondong: normally not but there're some newer models where it is necessary
[13:48] <jelly-home> smallfoot-: check the changelog for the kernel package (linux-image-3.8.0-12-generic) to see which vanilla release it's based on
[13:50] <smallfoot-> jelly-home, thanks, but it doesn't say
[13:51] <TK-999> smallfoot: Yesterday, someone complained about how Fedora upgrading to 3.8.x wrecks wifis
[13:53] <jdukiet> hello, i am running 12.04 LTS and was wondering if i could assign a shortcut for the wheel button on my mouse to the virtual window button or I'm sorry, the workspace switcher button on the launcher?
[13:53] <jelly-home> smallfoot-: really?  I see "rebase to v3.8.2" down the file
[13:56] <Kruti> hello , i'm running 12.04 LTS . I installed devstack and also logged into the dashboard thorugh local server in colg , but not able to do in my house
[13:56] <lalondong1> i'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS , and when i try to search additional drivers from System Settings, it says 'No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.'
[13:56] <lalondong1> Is that mean i have no wireless driver or anything? Sorry, i'm really new to Ubuntu/Linux, i am Windows former user.
[13:57] <TK-999> lalondongl: Is your wifi working?
[13:57] <lalondong1> Yeah, working fine.
[13:57] <TK-999> Then there is no need for proprietary drivers.
[13:57] <lalondong1> i'm using wifi right now to chat with all of you guys.
[13:57] <TK-999> The open source equivalents work fine.
[13:57] <lalondong1> how do i know that i have this wireless driver?
[13:58] <Tm_T> lalondong1: by the fact that it works just fine? (:
[13:59] <lalondong1> yeah ? :D
[13:59] <TK-999> lalondongl: lspci -k or lsusb -k depending on whether it's internal or USB
[14:00] <ronalds> can't install matlab, no shortcuts creates
[14:00] <ronalds> pls help
[14:01] <Somelauw> How can I change where skype stores my downloads. I googled, but all answers assume that I'm using windows which has a completely different skype user interface.
[14:01] <scott_z> I am monitoring my data transfer through system monitor and there is a TON of data being sent to my machine but I am not doing any downloads. How can I see what is doing all that data transfer?
[14:01] <ronalds> matlab
[14:01] <ronalds> matlab: command not found
[14:01] <ronalds> after installing and adding license file
[14:01] <smallfoot-> jelly-home, ah, now I found it!
[14:01] <smallfoot-> jelly-home, I actually found "rebase to v3.8.3" :)
[14:02] <jelly-home> well then
[14:02] <llutz> !info iftop | scott_z use this
[14:03] <smallfoot-> Why is kernel name "3.8.0-12-generic #21-Ubuntu" when the changelog say it rebase around 3.8.3 ?
[14:03] <natedawg> hey guys need help
[14:03] <natedawg> is this the place?
[14:03] <smallfoot-> yeah! :)
[14:04] <Kruti> anyone knows about openstack?
[14:04] <lalondong1> TK-999 : how do i know its internal or USB?
[14:04] <natedawg> Sweet having problems with ati ccc using open source driver
[14:04] <JohnD_> swap - logical or primary?
[14:04] <llutz> JohnD_: doesn't matter
[14:05] <ronalds> can't get matlab to work
[14:05] <JohnD_> ok
[14:05] <dacorr> Has anyone had any luck dual booting Winblows 8 with Ubuntu?
[14:05] <coop999> Good morning.   Running 12.10 and firefox 19.0.2 / chromium Version 25.0.1364.160 Ubuntu 12.10 (25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu0.12.10.1) .    Trying to start and run a Webex session crashes either browser.     Java information from console is here:
[14:05] <natedawg> yea on same hdd or seperate?
[14:05] <scott_z> llutz: thanks just what i was looking for
[14:05] <coop999> Java Plug-in 1.6.0_43
[14:05] <coop999>     Using JRE version 1.7.0_17-b02 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM   ava.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
[14:05] <coop999>         at com.sun.deploy.net.protocol.https.Handler.openConnection(Handler.java:97)
[14:05] <coop999>         at java.net.URL.openConnection(URL.java:971)
[14:05] <coop999>         at sun.net.www.protocol.jar.JarURLConnection.<init>(JarURLConnection.java:84)
[14:05] <FloodBot1> coop999: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <phaedral> looking for newb-safe place to comment-up example 4-2 of adv bash scripting guide at ldp
[14:05] <TK-999> lalondongl: Is your adapter builtin or external, connected to a USB port?
[14:06] <lalondong1> internal bro
[14:06] <eitch> hi guys. I've got a weird problem in 12.10. I use the facebook integration in firefox and message always crackle. This is very annoying. I had a similar issue with skype and there i needed to disable a pulseaudio plugin. Anyone know anything?
[14:07] <jelly-home> smallfoot-: 3.8.0-12-generic denotes the module compatibility.   (usually not in ubuntu, but) you might get an updated package based on a newer 3.8.x that still retains binary module compat. so they don't have to be rebuilt
[14:07] <coop999> appologies for the flood.   didn't realize it would boot me
[14:07] <TK-999> lalondongl: lspci -k to identify your driver, but if there are no problems, there isn't really any need to
[14:08] <lalondong1> TK-999 : it says ; Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
[14:08] <lalondong1> so my wireless driver are that one?
[14:08] <TK-999> lspci -k -> the corresponding "Kernel driver in use" section
[14:09] <coop999> Good morning.   running webex with either firefox or chromium crashes browser.    Java console reports error  with java.lang.ExceptionininitializerError      running Java Plug-in 1.6.0_43
[14:09] <coop999>     Using JRE version 1.7.0_17-b02 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
[14:09] <lalondong1> TK-999 : ahh, okey,. do i need to install the driver or no? my wireless are working fine, but should i install them and how?
[14:09] <jelly-home> smallfoot-: this interface between two pieces of binary, compiled software that interact with each other is called an ABI.  For kernel packages, you might read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/BuildSystem/ABI
[14:09] <TK-999> no, you should not
[14:09] <TK-999> They are already installed and working, no further configuration is needed
[14:09] <smallfoot-> jelly-home, ah, I see
[14:10] <JohnD_> pff
[14:10] <smallfoot-> jelly-home, so this is for nvidia driver to not break or something?
[14:10] <JohnD_> finally
[14:10] <JohnD_> god....
[14:10] <lalondong1> TK-999 : Ok, and how to see full list of available wireless networks? cause everytime i near the connection it connecting automaticly withtout showing another networks?
[14:10] <jelly-home> smallfoot-: correct
[14:11] <termospullo> hey guys I am having problems installing updates
[14:11] <smallfoot-> proprietary drivers are fucking us too much
[14:11] <JohnD_> cfhowlett, Ilutz: thx for pointing me somewhere
[14:11] <TK-999> lalondongl: into the Terminal, type: ip link and that gives the name of the wlan interface (e.g. wlan0)
[14:11] <TK-999> Then, use this name in: sudo iw wlan0 scan | grep SSID
[14:14] <lalondong1> TK-999 : it says only one, but when i'm using windows, they detect the other one networks, do i have problem with my ubuntu?
[14:14] <coop999> Good morning.   running 12.10 and running webex with either firefox or chromium crashes browser.    Java console reports error  with java.lang.ExceptionininitializerError      running Java Plug-in 1.6.0_43   Using JRE version 1.7.0_17-b02 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
[14:16] <Nahita> anyone here using sopcast?
[14:17] <ternomic> hi
[14:17] <ternomic> my kernel is 3.8.2-206 .fc18.x86_64   my laptop is dell vostro 1320 . i have wireless problem. how can i solve it?
[14:17] <ternomic> there is no wireless
[14:19] <llutz> ternomic: "lsb_release -sc" please
[14:19] <termospullo> Hey
[14:20] <termospullo> I am unbale to install updates or anything from software center on 12.04
[14:20] <termospullo> *unable
[14:20] <aliendroid> hi i got segfault error when i try to run apt-get. how should i fix that ?  189.252623] apt-get[3647]: segfault at 7fab89e4d000 ip 00007fab7ac32ef2 sp 00007fff410f50d0 error 4 in libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0[7fab7abdb000+11b000]
[14:22] <LyzardKing> I just installed ubuntu 13.04 and the bluetooth indicator is not appearing on the panel.
[14:22] <llutz> !ringtail | LyzardKing
[14:22] <LyzardKing> join #ubuntu+1
[14:22] <zyngawow> Can anyone help me please? My WiFi stays as unavailable... I'm using my phone as a modem, which make my internet really slow...
[14:23] <greenhorn_> Can anyone help with an issue I am having with my VPN? ty!!
[14:23] <termospullo> hey guys
[14:23] <termospullo> I am unable to install updates on 12.04
[14:24] <termospullo> after asking for confirmation in terminal it spits this out
[14:24] <termospullo> Puretaan malleja paketeteista: 100 %
[14:24] <termospullo> Esiräätälöidään paketteja...
[14:24] <termospullo> Tehdään asetuksia: install-info (4.13a.dfsg.1-8ubuntu2) ...
[14:24] <termospullo> /etc/environment: rivi 2: odottamaton EOF (tiedostonloppu) odotettaessa sulkevaa ”"”
[14:24] <termospullo> dpkg: virhe käsiteltäessä install-info (--configure):
[14:24] <FloodBot1> termospullo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <termospullo>  aliprosessi komentotiedosto post-installation asennettu palautti virhetilakoodin 2
[14:24] <zyngawow> Can anyone help me please? My WiFi stays as unavailable... I'm using my phone as a modem, which make my internet really slow... I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and my net card chipset is rt2860
[14:25] <Stdedos> is this trap correct? " trap "echo Make\ FAILURE > $stamps/Failed; date >> $stamps/Failed; /sbin/halt -p" ERR "
[14:25] <Ichne> Hi! Does HybridSLI work on Linux?
[14:26] <termospullo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619387/
[14:26] <termospullo> any help?
[14:27] <mehmet> Hi
[14:28] <jelly-home> Stdedos: looks right for bash... did you change the interpreter line to #!/bin/bash
[14:29] <Stdedos> jelly-home: Hello again - Yes I did but I had no chance to test it so far
[14:29] <zyngawow> Is Ubuntu 12.10 WiFi broken with certain chips like rt2800?
[14:29] <gaspe1> Hi, I have a problem dectecting hardware sensors with "lm-sensors / sensors-detect" http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619359/
[14:29] <saki`> okay
[14:30] <saki`> noob question
[14:30] <saki`> in the installer, if you're installing alongside windows 7
[14:30] <jelly-home> Stdedos: test it! http://paste.debian.net/242118/
[14:30] <saki`> when it gives you an option to divide the space
[14:30] <saki`> is ubuntu on the left or the right?
[14:30] <saki`> it doesn't say
[14:30] <Night_Elf> Hello all. I have been looking for some information on how to establish a sort of "interface bonding" with two (these are GSM/3G usb sticks). Most of what I can find online is about ethernet bonding. Where can I find some good info on usb mobile modems (potentially from different carrier/providers) bonding, in such a way that the user doesn't care which or how many of them are currently at use?
[14:30] <jelly-home> Stdedos: /bin/false always fails, thus triggering the trap
[14:31] <saki`> (also, hey jelly!)
[14:31] <gaspe1> saki: on the right
[14:32] <jelly-home> hello there
[14:32] <saki`> ubuntu's on the right? so if i drag it all the way to the right, it'll give me the minimum possible space that ubuntu will take on my harddrive, yes?
[14:33] <helpmeiamnoob> hey guys i want to get all the files starting with the name p, how to exe that on cli?
[14:33] <ihre> How come NFS is twice as fast as SMB? With NFS, I can copy at ~118MB/s and with SMB only ~55MB/s.
[14:33] <Stdedos> jelly-home: Nice debug ... Waiting my VM to boot
[14:33] <jelly-home> helpmeiamnoob: in the current directory? echo p*
[14:33] <gaspe1> saki: It's like a virutal disk
[14:33] <zyngawow> Is Ubuntu 12.10 WiFi broken with certain chips like rt2800?
[14:33] <helpmeiamnoob> jellow, can it be done using the ls command?
[14:34] <termospullo> having problems with installing updates on 12.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619387/
[14:34] <jelly-home> helpmeiamnoob: sure, why?
[14:34] <helpmeiamnoob> jelly-home,  how to do that
[14:34] <jelly-home> helpmeiamnoob: replace echo with the command of your liking
[14:35] <helpmeiamnoob> when i type ls -l what does the first d stand for?
[14:35] <holstein> termospullo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171205/e-sub-process-usr-bin-dpkg-returned-an-error-code-1 try this, and think about the sources you have aded
[14:36] <helpmeiamnoob> the d in drwxrwxrwx
[14:36] <IdleOne> directory
[14:36] <Somelauw> How can I change where skype stores my downloads. I googled, but all answers assume that I'm using windows which has a completely different skype user interface.
[14:37] <holstein> Somelauw: i would ask skype support
[14:37] <IdleOne> Somelauw: probably in ~/.skype
[14:38] <helpmeiamnoob> jelly-home,  when i type ls -l what does the first d stand for? the d in drwxrwxrwx
[14:38] <IdleOne> helpmeiamnoob: d = directory
[14:39] <helpmeiamnoob> IdleOne, and first rwx-rwx-rwx are for what i mean one is for us, other two is for whom all? can u gimme the proper order?
[14:40] <IdleOne> first set is for owner, the other two are user and guest
[14:40] <jelly-home> helpmeiamnoob: read this: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions
[14:40] <helpmeiamnoob> IdleOne, so it's in this order right? owner-otherUser-guest right?
[14:41] <jelly-home> owner, group, other
[14:41] <IdleOne> helpmeiamnoob: if I remember it correctly, read the link jelly-home gave you, it will explain.
[14:41] <jelly-home> IdleOne: there's no "other user" or "guest"
[14:42] <IdleOne> jelly-home: you're right, sorry :)
[14:42] <jelly-home> or, the third set covers permissions for all the processes run not by this user, and not by any user in this group
[14:42] <gaspe1> Attempt #2: Hi, I have a problem dectecting hardware sensors with "lm-sensors / sensors-detect" http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619359/
[14:43] <Anomie-Home> Could anyone tell me what directory mysql logs are kept in by default? /var/mysql is empty
[14:43] <gaspe1> Anomie: /var/log/mysql ?
[14:43] <IdleOne> /var/log/
[14:43] <helpmeiamnoob> IdleOne, jelly-home what does group mean there exactly PS: i checked the link
[14:43] <Anomie-Home> That's what I meant sorry, var/log/mysql is empty
[14:44] <Stdedos> jelly-home: Trap is ok ... I just need to test the whole script next time I leave ...
[14:45] <gaspe1> Anomie: sudo dmesg | grep mysqld
[14:45] <Stdedos> jelly-home: how can I assume write rights on a file / make excecutable with terminal again?
[14:46] <JohnD_> is there an online tool which will download some package and all dependencies? My Atheros doesn't work, and I need to download lots of packages, and its dependencies, and so on,  to make it work
[14:46] <holstein> !wget
[14:46] <holstein> !info wget
[14:46] <Anomie-Home> gaspe1: That command doesnt return anything
[14:47] <holstein> JohnD_: ^
[14:47] <Dracco> Hello. I have desktop pc without internet connection and want to upgrade python on it. I downloaded sources on another pc, configured, installed, it shows me python 2.7 binaries, upgraded 2.6 as well from 2.6.5 to 2.6.8, but when i try installing wicd it says that my python version is 2.6.5. Any idea how to make it see changes?
[14:47] <Anomie-Home> gaspe1: My mysql isn't running currently though
[14:47] <Anomie-Home> and it won't start
[14:48] <IdleOne> JohnD_: packages.ubuntu.com will list the dependencies, you will need to download each file separately though.
[14:52] <Stdedos> jelly-home: how can I assume write rights on a file / make excecutable with terminal again?
[14:52] <captine> hi all.  anyone used a blue yeti pro mic and gotten the following when plugging it in?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5619446/
[14:53] <captine> not sure if my computer has a problem with the USB ports?  running 12.04 on acer aspire 4755G
[14:54] <OnyxRaven> Hi, im having a kind of major problem - running dist-upgrade getting Preparing to replace apt 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.7 (using .../apt_0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.10_amd64.deb) ... / ERROR: Can't find the archive-keyring / Is the ubuntu-keyring package installed?
[14:54] <theadmin> OnyxRaven: Well, is it?
[14:55] <OnyxRaven> it says it is
[14:55] <theadmin> OnyxRaven: What Ubuntu version is this?
[14:55] <holstein> captine: pavucontrol is what i would tru
[14:55] <holstein> try*
[14:55] <holstein> !proaudio
[14:56] <OnyxRaven> if i try to apt-get install -f ubuntu-keyring I get 'is already the newest version'
[14:57] <OnyxRaven> this is 12.04
[14:57] <holstein> OnyxRaven: i would try removing the package, upgrading, then reinstalling
[14:57] <gaspe1>  Attempt #3 (last): Hi, I have a problem dectecting hardware sensors with "lm-sensors / sensors-detect" http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619359/ my CPU is an AMD A10-5800k
[14:57] <OnyxRaven> removing ubuntu-keyring would remove apt :-/
[14:58] <compdoc> gaspe1, pretty new cpu. it might not be supported
[14:58] <zAo^> gaspe1: maybe 13.04 beta will detect it
[14:58] <compdoc> maybe someday
[14:58] <compdoc> good idea
[14:59] <gaspe1> damn
[14:59] <compdoc> gaspe1, how do you like that cpu otherwise?
[15:00] <OnyxRaven> where is the archive-keyring usually
[15:00] <Stdedos> how can I assume write rights on a file / make excecutable with terminal?
[15:00] <gaspe1> comdoc: ok for the price
[15:00] <compdoc> OnyxRaven, you are using sudo?
[15:01] <OnyxRaven> yeah
[15:01] <Dracco> Hello. I have desktop pc without internet connection and want to upgrade python on it. I downloaded sources on another pc, configured, installed, it shows me python 2.7 binaries, upgraded 2.6 as well from 2.6.5 to 2.6.8, but when i try installing wicd it says that my python version is 2.6.5. Any idea how to make it see changes?
[15:01] <OnyxRaven> i'm actually sudo'd as root
[15:01] <holstein> OnyxRaven: run "sudo apt-get update" ..do you have any errors?
[15:01] <holstein> OnyxRaven: as root?
[15:01] <OnyxRaven> ah yes - no keyring installed at /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
[15:02] <OnyxRaven> (btw this is a bundled ec2 instance that worked last week just fine)
[15:02] <theadmin> Stdedos: chmod. The basic syntax is "chmod u=user_rights,g=group_rights,o=other_rights filename". Those categories you don't need can be left out. The rights are r (read), w (write) and x (execute)
[15:02] <OnyxRaven> on my other, running instances that dir is empty
[15:02] <theadmin> Stdedos: You can read "man chmod" for details.
[15:03] <Stdedos> theadmin: so if I created a file with sudo, I can user chmod u=rw and everything is ok?
[15:03] <Stdedos> theadmin: I tried, but I was confused
[15:03] <gaspe1> compdoc: FM2 motherboard are pricy, but better quality/price ratio than AM3+ socket motherboard
[15:03] <Stdedos> use*
[15:04] <OnyxRaven> what is the ubuntu gpg key hash?  looks like i should be able to import it
[15:04] <gaspe1> compdoc: And I wanted to try Steam Beta
[15:05] <OnyxRaven> is it 40976EAF437D05B5
[15:05] <eitch> hi guys. I've got a weird problem in 12.10. I use the facebook integration in firefox and message always crackle. This is very annoying. I had a similar issue with skype and there i needed to disable a pulseaudio plugin. Anyone know anything?
[15:05] <Stdedos> theadmin: so if I created a file with sudo, I can user chmod u=rw and everything is ok?
[15:05] <Stdedos> theadmin: so if I created a file with sudo, I can use chmod u=rw and everything is ok?
[15:05] <theadmin> Stdedos: You also need to set ownership rights... That's done with chown: chown username:groupname filename
[15:05] <gaspe1> compdoc: I have a Nvidia GTX 660, everything works fine, but I can't read CPU temp, I'm scared it overheat
[15:06] <jelly-home> Stdedos: if you need to execute the file, add the execute permissions.  chmod +x
[15:06] <gaspe1> it's a shame, I have to go back on Win7 -_-
[15:06] <Stdedos> jelly-home: chmod +x or u+x?
[15:07] <gaspe1> chmod 777
[15:07] <compdoc> gaspe1, just look in the bios from time to time. Enable cool&quiet
[15:07] <theadmin> gaspe1: That's always a bad idea.
[15:07] <Stdedos> theadmin: thanks. btw kernel is good and booted ... Compile time: 1h30m
[15:07] <helpmeiamnoob> Stdedos, or u can type chmod 777 or whatever combo 7= 111 (in binary) hence rwx
[15:07] <lalondong> GUYSSSSSS> NEED HELPPPPP>>>>
[15:07] <lalondong> i'm running live-cd right now
[15:07] <lalondong> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:07] <Dracco> Hello. I have desktop pc without internet connection and want to upgrade python on it. I downloaded sources on another pc, configured, installed, it shows me python 2.7 binaries, upgraded 2.6 as well from 2.6.5 to 2.6.8, but when i try installing wicd it says that my python version is 2.6.5. Any idea how to make it see changes?
[15:07] <helpmeiamnoob> lalondong, and?
[15:08] <Stdedos> thanks everyone :)
[15:08] <OnyxRaven> BTW, that fixed my problem - using apt-key to redownload the GPG keys
[15:08] <lalondong> i have unallocated partition, that i've moved and resize with ext4 which where my ubuntu are installed
[15:08] <jelly-home> Stdedos: u+x adds exactly the user executable permissions.  +x is the same as ugo+x
[15:08] <OnyxRaven> i need to add that to my bootstraps
[15:08] <gaspe1> compdoc: I've already changed the minimum CPU RPM, that's all i can do
[15:08] <lalondong> i've swapoff the linux-swap before moving it
[15:08] <compdoc> gaspe1, how hot is it getting after working hard?
[15:09] <lalondong> now the unallocated partition are gone with the ext4
[15:09] <lalondong> shall i swapon the linux-swap again?
[15:09] <gaspe1> 60 - 70C
[15:09] <gaspe1> it reach the "damn its to hot zone" zone
[15:10] <n8w> hey
[15:10] <compdoc> gaspe1, thats hot but its still within specs. how fast does the cpu cooler fan run in rpm?
[15:11] <n8w> whats the magic to make the task scheduler accept the assigned job...whatever i do the OK button stays inactive...cant click it
[15:12] <OnyxRaven> crud, i spoke too soon
[15:12] <OnyxRaven> so I can update now, with the keys installed, but still have an issue with the dist-upgrade
[15:12] <gaspe1> compdoc: I have it to be 600 RPM, minimum cpu fan speed
[15:13] <gaspe1> compdoc: I think lm-sendors, senses something, but the value don't seem to be good
[15:14] <compdoc> gaspe1, no wonder its getting hot. My cpu fans run 2000 to 3000 rpm
[15:14] <gaspe1> compdoc: cpu temp goes between 0 C -to 11 C
[15:15] <Dracco> Seems like noone can help me here :/ well ill try forum, thanks anyway :)
[15:15] <gaspe1> compdoc: I know, that why I'm here :)
[15:19] <gaspe1> compdoc: The only solution left is to run Ubuntu in VirtualBox on Win7
[15:20] <compdoc> gaspe1, are you saynig ubuntu causes the fan to spin at 600rpm?
[15:21] <lalondong> can you guys help me
[15:21] <lalondong> i'm stuck
[15:21] <lalondong> reallly
[15:21] <gaspe1> compdoc: No I changed the Minimum CPU Fan speed from the Bios
[15:21] <OnyxRaven> so here's what i'm getting now http://pastie.org/private/dhngqrviwxrisha9tpj8ba
[15:22] <holstein> !ask | lalondong
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> lalondong: state the issue on one line and see
[15:22] <gaspe1> compdoc: The problem is simple, Ubuntu can't monitor the CPU Temp, so fancontrol can't do his job
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: does the system have a make and model?
[15:22] <Boston65> any help on no sound in 12.04
[15:22] <compdoc> gaspe1, the bios controls the fan speed, not the OS
[15:22] <holstein> !audio | Boston65
[15:23] <Boston65> there is no sound card showing
[15:23] <holstein> Boston65: then, check the bios, and try and test that the hardware is not broken
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> onyxraven: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:23] <holstein> Boston65: is this something that broke? or something that never worked?
[15:24] <Boston65> no works great in windows 8
[15:24] <Boston65> the sound is greyed out on the top bar
[15:25] <holstein> Boston65: ok. so you know the hardware isnt broken.. and you have opened a terminal and run "aplay -l" ?
[15:25] <techxarena> need help
[15:25] <techxarena> my mouse is not working
[15:25] <techxarena> pls
[15:25] <techxarena> help
[15:25] <techxarena> my touchpad is no working, need help!
[15:25] <Boston65> ya just ran it no sound card found
[15:25] <plataoresponde> tete
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> boston65: there is an alsa-info script mentioned on the sound troubleshhoting procedure. run it and upload to the server and a URL will be generated. What is it please
[15:26] <holstein> Boston65: did sound ever work?
[15:26] <gaspe1> compdoc: So what's the use of Fancontrol? I tought it was the OS that was monitoring the CPU temp.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> techxarena: does the system have a make and model?
[15:26] <Boston65> no neber worked
[15:26] <`aL> hi I have a laptop with ubuntu v7.x and it does not show any menu at all how can I make the menu appear please ?
[15:26] <Abu> how do i unistall sd card reader module
[15:26] <Boston65> never worked
[15:27] <gaspe1> compdoc: I know the Bios have a Automatic shudown if the CPU temp is out of control
[15:27] <Abu> i keep getting mmc0: got data interrupts
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> `al: ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 are both no longer supported in any way
[15:28] <captine> anyone on 12.04 get this when plugging in a usb microphone?  usb 3-1: Not enough bandwidth for altsetting 1
[15:28] <holstein> captine: no. does the device work?
[15:28] <captine> yes
[15:28] <holstein> captine: i wouldnt worry about the message then
[15:28] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: Not sure to understand ?
[15:29] <Boston65> ActionParsnip: is that script on the Ubuntu site?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> boston65: run the sound info script. it will tell us a lot
[15:29] <captine> holstein, works on macbook.  got it working on my other USB ports after struggling a bit, but seems my video camera causes issues.  it is not working  now in the port it is in
[15:29] <compdoc> gaspe1, you set a target temp in the bios, and what speed the fan should run when it reaches that temp. so say you want to keep the cpu at 45c, the fan should run at full speed at that temp
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> boston65: its step 5 on the ubuntu sound troubleshooting procedure page
[15:29] <captine> holstein, if i plug into my usb 1 ports, i get this...  cannot get ctl value: req = 0x83, wValue = 0x200, wIndex = 0xb00, type = 4
[15:29] <Boston65> OK
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: is the system a laptop?
[15:30] <holstein> captine: i say, if its working, dont worry about the messages
[15:30] <mtadyshak> I want a shell script to spawn another terminal window and then start minicom in that window.  How would I do that?  The command terminal or Terminal is not recognized.  How would I control to which window subsequent commands would be executed?
[15:30] <captine> holstein, it's a bule yeti pro
[15:30] <captine> *blue
[15:30] <holstein> captine: cool.. and its working fine? if so, just ignore the messages
[15:30] <captine> holstein, it works intermitantly on the usb1 ports... its the intermittant that is bothering me
[15:30] <theadmin> mtadyshak: gnome-terminal -e command
[15:30] <captine> holstein, it is not working now
[15:31] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: Nope, it's a custom made tower
[15:31] <holstein> !audio | captine
[15:31] <holstein> !proaudio | captine
[15:31] <captine> holstein, thanks.  will check those out.  did the first one already.  perhaps the pro link will help
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: what CPU and GPU do you use?
[15:32] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: CPU (AMD A10-5800k) GPU (Nvidia GTX 660)
[15:32] <Stdedos> theadmin: jelly-home how can I pass an argument to a script through terminal?
[15:32] <Dougie187> For some reason I just started getting this error with svn. "svn: E200029: Couldn't perform atomic initialization" Any ideas?
[15:33] <holstein> captine: i find alsa and kernel versions are usually what make or break audio support.. also, you can try the irq settings for USB
[15:33] <bryguy_> using 12.10 with firefox, when I visit certain flash heavy sites my hard drive starts writing every second or so until I leave the site. My computer is otherwise silent most of the time but this is pretty noisy and annoying, any idea what's happening there or if there's something that can be done to stop it?
[15:33] <holstein> captine: you can unplug *all* other usb hardware.. dont use a hub.. check cat /proc/interrupts
[15:34] <bryguy_> I'm considering trying to do /tmp in ramdisk which might help but if there's a simpler solution I'd like to know
[15:34] <theadmin> bryguy_: Flash is Flash, but your solution makes sense.
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: YourvCPU seems to have a GPU in it as well. You may have issues with a Raden GPU as well as the Nvidia
[15:34] <captine> holstein, i will check the irq.  i suspect that is the issue ...
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: have you tried other browsers?
[15:35] <Boston65> whats the link to that sound trouble shooting page? New to all this
[15:35] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I had, but I fixed it
[15:35] <holstein> !audio | Boston65
[15:35] <Stdedos> theadmin: jelly-home how can I pass an argument to a script through terminal?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> boston65: cant you find it online?
[15:36] <theadmin> Stdedos: Repeating often, especially if your message contains someone's nicknames, is a bad idea.
[15:36] <Boston65> no went to a bunch of sites, no step 5
[15:36] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: I installed Steam and was able to play Counter Strike Source
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> boston65: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[15:36] <Stdedos> Mechanically while trying to figure out other things, sorry
[15:36] <Stdedos> how can I pass an argument to a script through terminal?
[15:36] <theadmin> Stdedos: Can you elaborate? You can't change arguments of something already running. If you simply want to start a script with arguments, you can just use /path/to/script arg1 arg2 arg3...
[15:37] <bryguy_> ActionParsnip: I prefer to use free browsers so I've avoided chrome. I used to use seamonkey but I haven't tried that, don't know if it even exists any longer
[15:37] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: I have Compiz installed, which works fine
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> boston65: all I searched for wad: ubuntu sound troubleshooting procedure.     which are the exact words I said to you earlier
[15:38] <Stdedos> theadmin: I want to run a .sh file which will call for another .sh file, different each time
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: tried with xfce4?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: try chromium......
[15:38] <Stdedos> how can I reffer to those arguments?
[15:38] <Stdedos> theadmin: how can I reffer to those arguments?*
[15:38] <high-rez> Is anyone else having problems with massive packetloss to us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[15:38] <jelly-home> Stdedos: "$1", "$2", ...
[15:38] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: Why I would do that?
[15:38] <captine> holstein, weird thing is the mic has a monitor so it acts as speakers if you put your headphones in it.... the audio out works perfectly..  audio in (which is the whole point of the mic), is not working
[15:39] <Stdedos> nice, thanks again ;)
[15:39] <bryguy_> apt-get chromium fails, do I need to install manually?
[15:39] <holstein> captine: i would check pavucontrol ..
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: you do realize that the file extension tells you nothing of a file in linux...
[15:39] <GraalUbuntu> Could someone assist me with an error I am receiving on Ubuntu? "bash: ./Graal: cannot execute binary file"
[15:39] <theadmin> Stdedos: Apps from $0 to $infinity, $0 being the file name of the script and all the others being the actual arguments.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: chromium isnt an option of apt-get
[15:39] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: I do, but I am making the files, plus I sense .sh is widespread as script
[15:39] <theadmin> Stdedos: Err, not apps, variables, sorry
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[15:40] <Stdedos> theadmin: and then, strings as arguments?
[15:40] <bryguy_> ActionParsnip: lol ok that makes sense i guess
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: you can rename an image to .sh and the OS will still see an image file
[15:40] <theadmin> Stdedos: Yeah. Well, bash doesn't really have datatypes.
[15:41] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: lol didn't know that
[15:41] <jelly-home> Stdedos: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Parameters
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: you could have also searched software centre
[15:41] <Stdedos> theadmin: can I echo ******** >> $document
[15:41] <Stdedos> ?
[15:42] <ronalds> hello
[15:42] <Stdedos> theadmin: (stars as string)
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: so how does saying its an "sh file" tell us anything....is my point
[15:42] <theadmin> Stdedos: Sure.
[15:42] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: I am praising on some common sense
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: if you pass arguments to the script, you can perform logic on the value passed and make the script behave differently
[15:43] <theadmin> Stdedos: long as $document is a defined variable.
[15:43] <bryguy_> ActionParsnip I tried "chromium" in bash and usually it tells you what package you want, the binary is called chromium-browser too, it's just a weird convention
[15:43] <GraalUbuntu>  Could someone assist me with an error I am receiving on Ubuntu? "bash: ./Graal: cannot execute binary file"
[15:43] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: I just keep log of some timing on commands, and I want to automate the process, since I am getting the ropes on bash scripts
[15:44] <bryguy_> GraalUbuntu: what do you get from ls -l ./Graal
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> bryguy_: not really. chrome is a game :)
[15:44] <baldfat> So I am having issues with XOrg that well I just can't spend the time to fix. I switch from opensource to AMD propietary and well it's to much work. I am thinking of just doing A) wipe out the / partition or B) remove all the PPA and try to chase the originals
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> graalUbuntu: what is the output of: file ./Graal; uname -a
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: #bash may help too
[15:47] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> baldfat: Ati drivers are in the ubuntu repos
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: its the bash irc channel.....its here on freenode
[15:48] <baldfat> ActionParsnip: I know but I had some sstuff in ppa to handle a few things
[15:48] <TechieOfficer> anyone know of any good books on Linux Administration? I mainly want to learn to use the Terminal effectivly
[15:48] <captine> holstein, thanks, checked that.  played music using the headphone out of the mic and used audacity.  am able to pipe the monitor of the mic into audacity and record whatever the computer is outputting, however, there is nothing recorded when i change my recording input from the monitor of the mic to the actual mic...
[15:49] <GraalUbuntu> ActionParsnip: Did my message get to you?
[15:49] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: with psensor CPU usage just shows one(1) core, A10 has four(4) cores
[15:49] <holstein> captine: changing routing with pavucontrol?
[15:49] <captine> holstein, yes
[15:49] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip~AndChat35ubuntu/member/actionparsnip: Oh, I see
[15:49] <baldfat> TechieOfficer: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: i dont follow....
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> gaspe1: do you have the latest BIOS?
[15:50] <n00b> good afternoon
[15:50] <Exilepilot> >tfw you've executed: apt-get install open-jdk*, was it wise?
[15:50] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: I understood what you said to me ,, but I used shift-tab to autocomplete you, and it expanded your domain
[15:50] <Guest26330> i need a good lightweight musicplayer
[15:51] <gaspe1> ActionParsnip: Yes I do
[15:51] <baldfat> TechieOfficer: Only book that is a good overall IMHO https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Mark_G_Sobell_A_Practical_Guide_to_Linux_Commands_?id=xplXdW9R6QoC&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImJvb2steHBsWGRXOVI2UW9DIl0.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> stdedos: i have a member cloak ;-)
[15:51] <Stdedos> ActionParsnip: Seem told you
[15:51] <Stdedos> See,
[15:51] <holstein> captine: that is not "intermittent" though.. what you are getting makes me think its a routing issue.. double check the routing.. try something simpler than audacity
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> guest26330: deadbeef :-)
[15:52] <baldfat> Guest21051: I love cmus
[15:52] <mshake> hi
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> guest26330: audacity
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> sorry audacious
[15:52] <captine> holstein, plugged it into the usb while talking.  can see the levels picking up the mic input for a few seconds, then stops and doing dmesg, i get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5619596/
[15:52] <baldfat> I think the commandline music tools are amazing
[15:52] <mshake> when i try to update it says  it require the installation of untrusted packages
[15:53] <mshake> what is that
[15:53] <TechieOfficer> baldfat: Sorry! Books on Google Play is not available in your country yet.
[15:53] <TechieOfficer> We're working to bring the content you love to more countries as quickly as possible.
[15:53] <TechieOfficer> Please check back again soon.
[15:53] <TechieOfficer> baldfat: wats the name of the book?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> mshake: what is the output of: sudo apt-get update
[15:53] <TechieOfficer> whats*
[15:53] <mshake> i'm using the GUI thingy
[15:53] <holstein> captine: what would i do? try live CD's.. i would want different alsa and kernel versions.. the live CD's are the easiest way for me to do that and not break my current setup
[15:53] <theadmin> TechieOfficer: Can't you tell from the URL? "A practical guide to Linux commands". doh.
[15:54] <llutz> TechieOfficer: "Practical Guide to Linux Commands, Editors, and Shell Programming by Mark G Sobell"
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> mshake: sounds like you added a PPA incorrectly
[15:54] <captine> holstein, thanks.  perhaps i have broken something... :)
[15:54] <captine> maybe i will try upgrade to 12.10
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> mshake: close software centre and use a terminal
[15:54] <TechieOfficer> llutz: Thank you
[15:55] <mshake> can it be MIM
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> mshake: what is MIM?
[15:55] <mshake> man is the middle attack ?
[15:56] <mshake> i can't use  the terminal from a user account
[15:56] <llutz> mshake: you're missing some repo apt-keys
[15:56] <baldfat> TechieOfficer: http://www.sobell.com/CMDREF1/index.html
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> mshake: sure you can. just press CTRL + ALT + T
[15:57] <mshake> is using synpatic will make anydiffrence ?
[15:57] <baldfat> TechieOfficer: It is available as a Kindle version but I like Google Books since you can download the epub or df :) Or else you can get it free if you don't have a conscience :)
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> mshake: the GUI apps dont give enough detail. they are convenient but not useful if thete are issues
[15:58] <DreadCapt> I'm trying to create a apple_bootstrap partition but I can't seem to make that happen.
[15:59] <mshake> not working
[15:59] <mshake> the terminal command isn't accepting the sudo password
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> mshake: close all GUI package apps, open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get update
[15:59] <DreadCapt> My goal is to format a usb so that I can install lubuntu onto a powerbook g4
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> mshake: it is accepting the password. you just get no feedback
[15:59] <Rajvi> Hi All, Not able to connect to wired internet
[15:59] <holstein> !ppc | DreadCapt
[15:59] <Rajvi> A newbie here
[16:00] <holstein> DreadCapt: i would just try a CD.. i dont think apple's boot usb
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> mshake: copy the whole output and go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste there
[16:00] <mshake> it's not accepting the sudo password !!
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> mshake: jyst type as if it was. it is going in
[16:01] <DreadCapt> holstein, i eventually end up https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/powerpc/boot-usb-files.html from that faq the instructions only say "create a partition of type apple_bootstrap" and it says nothing as to how
[16:01] <mshake> i'm running from a normal user acc will that make a diffrence ?
[16:01] <holstein> DreadCapt: you can try and find http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html for ppc, or something like it
[16:01] <holstein> DreadCapt: why can you not boot a CD?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> mshake: yes, everybody else does too. that's why sudo exists
[16:02] <Rajvi> How to connect to interent .. if ur ISP has a web dialer?
[16:02] <holstein> !dialup
[16:02] <DreadCapt> holstein, cuz i dont have any cds
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> !adsl | rajvi
[16:03] <holstein> DreadCapt: i would go get some CD's.. that would be easiest..
[16:03] <crf> hi my screen keeps going to black after a couple of minutes. How do I lengthen this time?
[16:03] <mshake> i just tried it it work on the  GUI thing  but not in tha terminal
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> mshake: did the sudo apt-get update now run okn
[16:03] <Rajvi> This is complicated
[16:03] <DreadCapt> holstein, thanks
[16:04] <Rajvi> For a friend, not me
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> mshake: try: gksudo apt-get update
[16:04] <crf> Actually, it seems to go black after about 12 seconds.
[16:04] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: The heck is the point of running a CLI app with gksudo?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> rajvi: not really. you use network manager
[16:05] <Rajvi> In win.. I have a wb dialer.. Wuould it work if i enter the credendials in Modem Config??
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: pretty pass input box with input feedback is nice to have
[16:05] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: No, it's gross and insecure
[16:05] <holstein> Rajvi: you'll need those credentials.. i would just try it.. dialup support is "on the way out" in most operating systems these days
[16:05] <theadmin> That's just my opinion though, eh.
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: maybe. but the user is having issue without the feedback so it makes sensee
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: insecure is debatable
[16:06] <gnuBash> Hello, guys. I have the following problem: I create pseudo terminal and run the following code: pty[this is the pseudo terminal code] sh. In this way I run the shell but it echoes every command I type (for example if I type "ls" I receive "ls and all the directories". When I run with "-e" parameter it doesn't echo and works fine. But when I run "pty -e /bin/bash" it is the same situation. Any ideas?
[16:07] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: People behind your back can tell the length of your password easily, allowing them to guess the password. If the length matches your name, the password might be your name. If the length is 8, 6, 4 or 2 it can be variations of your birthdate. etc.
[16:07] <lalondong> i need to ask
[16:07] <lalondong> Move /dev/sda6 to the right and shrink it from 20.95 GiB to 1.85 GiB   Error
[16:07] <|nv|s|b|e> shoot
[16:07] <mshake> i ran this from the admin account by loggin in there it worked  this the result  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619643/   + it said there was a problem detected and it reported it
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: knowing length doesnt make it insecure. using sudo people may not see the length butvthey can hear how many keypresses you make
[16:08] <|nv|s|b|e> i always look around before i enter my pswrd
[16:08] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Heh, guess so. Well let's not debate my odd paranoia.
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: also using GUI apps needing root should use gksudo so are they insecure too....
[16:09] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I'm usually cautious of GUI apps asking for root rights unless it's those found in the base Ubuntu install or gparted.
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> mshake: can you pastebin the last few lines. the command hadnt completed
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: but they use gksudo so people can see pass length. which is bad according too you. chill pill?
[16:11] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I don't know what a chill pill is, but again, I already suggested we not drive too much offtopic. So please let's not.
[16:12] <Exilepilot> YAY
[16:12] <Exilepilot> openjdk* has installed
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: fine but remeber, just because you dislike something doesnt make it bad
[16:12] <Exilepilot> ;0
[16:13] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Guess so, sorry.
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: no harm done :)
[16:14] <TechieOfficer> baldfat: would there be any way to get around the country restriction? I dont understand how Puerto Rico isn't allowed to buy books
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> mshake: what is the full output of the command please. the command hasnt finished til you get the prompt back
[16:15] <theadmin> TechieOfficer: Copyright stuff like that is illegal to "get around".
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> crf: does the system have a make and model?
[16:18] <mshake> didn't understand
[16:19] <mshake> that what was  in the output
[16:19] <Guest60093> Hey can any one help my graphics card (ati readon 4500hd) and i really need the GPU to work because VMplayer sucks without it
[16:21] <theadmin> Guest60093: sudo apt-get install fglrx and reboot.
[16:21] <mshake> that was the full output of the command after it finished it told me that there was an error i pressed report
[16:22] <Guest60093> theadmin: fglrx tell me that i have a non compatible something and that i should run aticonfig
[16:22] <theadmin> Guest60093: Well you should, run "sudo aticonfig --initial".
[16:22] <TechieOfficer> theadmin: well, using a proxy to get the books, would that be illegal? :P
[16:22] <theadmin> Guest60093: It configures the system to use API drivers.
[16:22] <swippy> Hello
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> mshake: can you pastebin the last few lines including the prompt you get back
[16:23] <Guest60093> theadmin: i know that and i did it but nothing is changed
[16:23] <Nach0z> theadmin: s/api/ati/
[16:24] <theadmin> Nach0z: ...oh, yeah, soz
[16:24] <swippy> Does anyone know if the latest version of ubuntu on an install cd can be installed on an imac (g3)?
[16:24] <theadmin> Guest60093: Eh... I can't find anything for Radeon 4xxx series on amd's website, guess they dropped support.
[16:24] <Nach0z> lol
[16:24] <Guest60093> theadmin: So basically i am screwed ???
[16:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !mac | swippy, here's that info
[16:25] <theadmin> Guest60093: Basically, you can use the free driver... Eh... What's VMplayer anyway?
[16:25] <swippy> thanks!
[16:25] <Guest60093> theadmin: like virtual box i need it to emulate the blackberry smartphone to do my work
[16:26] <SonikkuAmerica> swippy: Even though it's for Intel Macs I'm pretty sure there's a G3 imagr as well.
[16:26] <SonikkuAmerica> *image
[16:26] <theadmin> Guest60093: Oh... rats. Well, then I guess it's a real issue I can't help with :(
[16:27] <Guest60093> theadmin : how can i use the free driver ???
[16:28] <theadmin> Guest60093: Eh, it should come with Ubuntu, but if you somehow removed it, the package is xserver-xorg-video-ati
[16:33] <lalondong> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on live-cd(with usb) -> i want to increase the number of my linux partition(ext4). my ext4 have around 10 gb space and has used around 8 gb space(just 2 gb that are free) which is why i want to increase them.. But i've made mistake on making the partition with them, This is the partition on gparted before i resize them (sequentially): ext4/sda(10 gb) | linux-swap/sda6(1.8 gb) | unallocated space(19 gb). 
[16:33] <lalondong> so i can move them because i can't move it when it's 'swapon', i need to move it to the right until the unallocated space are change plase, to the 'linux-swap' place, on side of the ext4 and no problem after that. I want to increase the ext4(sda5) with he unallocated space, But i've made a terrible mistake because i've joined the wrong sda, which is linux-swap/sda6 are joined with the unallocated partition that has around 19 gb free
[16:34] <lalondong> Now the swap that has 1.85 before now turn to be 20 gb. :( i've tried to resize the swap again to 1.85, but it says error.  This is the gparted_details : http://postimage.org/image/sqj6vuc13/ Pleasee check on that picture. i'm new to ubuntu and i'm stuckkkk.. :(( Anyone..
[16:34] <lalondong> pleaseeee
[16:35] <lalondong> anyone :(
[16:36] <mkquist__> lalondong: what are you trying to do/
[16:36] <ngwdanie1> hi everyone! does anyone which is the name of the installation user on 12.10
[16:36] <lalondong> i'm trying to increase my linux space
[16:37] <theadmin> ngwdanie1: "ubuntu", if you mean the LiveCD user.
[16:37] <lalondong> but i've resize the wrong sda
[16:37] <ngwdanie1> yes, the LIVECD user
[16:37] <lalondong> anyone who can help me on PM. pleaseeee
[16:37] <lalondong> i can't put all the message here :(
[16:37] <mkquist__> lalondong: pastebin
[16:38] <lalondong> what is pastebin?
[16:38] <mkquist__> lalondong: !pastebin
[16:39] <theadmin> lalondong: http://paste.ubuntu.com (or other similar sites) is a way to send long texts.
[16:40] <mshake> the same result but now a two problem happened
[16:40] <lalondong> how to use this?
[16:40] <mshake> i re did the update thing
[16:40] <lalondong> do i just need to paste them
[16:40] <lalondong> then copy it and paste it here again?
[16:40] <lalondong> or send the link url?
[16:41] <ngwdanie1> i've made an persistent LiveUSB and I've used it until I've logget out. Since I cannot use root I need the LiveUSB user
[16:41] <lalondong> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619729/
[16:41] <mshake> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619726/
[16:41] <lalondong> anyone that can help me pleasee
[16:42] <lalondong> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619729/
[16:43] <lalondong> please anyone help me. i'm new to ubuntu :(  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619729/
[16:44] <theadmin> !repeat | lalondong
[16:44] <tozen> sorry 4 the offtop gals. does smbn knows some good jailbroken iphone freenode please? thx
[16:44] <lalondong> okey :(
[16:44] <holstein> tozen: try an inphone channel, or an actual offtopic channel
[16:45] <holstein> lalondong: work from a live CD with no swap
[16:45] <lalondong> i am on live-cd right now
[16:46] <lalondong> i've made that change on live-cd
[16:46] <holstein> lalondong: also, consider just being new to ubuntu for a while.. what you are trying to do is a bit advanced
[16:47] <lalondong> i know, i've searched some of tutorial about increasing the linux partition, so i try them
[16:47] <lalondong> i know.. i
[16:47] <lalondong> but i've made mistake during the partition :(
[16:48] <jrtappers> Whats a good way to take a backup of all config files?
[16:48] <Kruppt> lalondong: do you know how to start a root terminal?
[16:48] <theadmin> jrtappers: Backup /etc and every dotfile in your home directory?
[16:48] <lalondong> you mean
[16:48] <lalondong> root terminal
[16:48] <lalondong> sudo su ?
[16:48] <theadmin> lalondong: sudo -i
[16:48] <compdoc> jrtappers, use the free cloud space you get from ubuntu one, and backup /etc and the other folders to that
[16:49] <lalondong> i'm in the root right now
[16:49] <lalondong> what do i have to do now?
[16:50] <econdudeawesome> Which chan should I join to get information on writing a bash script to parse data? Have 5 Gb of data, need maybe 5 Mb of it
[16:51] <Kruppt> lalondong: type ->fdisk -l<- in a root term , copy the output from the terminal and paste the contents, and post link
[16:51] <jrtappers> econdudeawesome, What is the data?
[16:51] <lalondong> right away sir
[16:52] <econdudeawesome> jrtappers: NOAA archived weather data
[16:52] <econdudeawesome> It's in csv/txt form
[16:52] <econdudeawesome> so ideally use textutils, just not sure of a good place to start
[16:52] <jrtappers> What format is that?
[16:52] <lalondong> here's the link : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619771/
[16:54] <econdudeawesome> jrtappers: not sure, waiting for Dropbox to sync it to my work computer here. I believe it's just comma-delimited for hourly observations. One of the relevant variables is the Station ID; what I want to do is to pull out relevant station IDs and put into a separate file
[16:54] <jrtappers> econdudeawesome, couldn't you just run a grep?
[16:55] <econdudeawesome> jrtappers: I suppose. I'm not terrible familiar with grep. I know I can use it to pull out individual substrings; does it print out the full line?
[16:55] <jrtappers> econdudeawesome, I.E $ cat BIGFILE.csv | grep "<ID>" > SMALL.csv
[16:55] <econdudeawesome> so something like $ cat file.csv | grep $var > station.csv?
[16:55] <econdudeawesome> hah
[16:55] <econdudeawesome> ok
[16:55] <jrtappers> econdudeawesome, yh, it prints all lines with the text in
[16:56] <jrtappers> econdudeawesome, Its very useful!
[16:56] <Kruppt> lalondong:Is there data in sda5?
[16:56] <econdudeawesome> fantastic--glad to see I wasn't asking something too incredible difficult :). Will it print everything AFTER the substring, or everything between newline characters?
[16:56] <HomoSapiens> hello
[16:56] <theadmin> econdudeawesome: Everything that's on the line where the match was found
[16:56] <HomoSapiens> looking for a team to develop a mobile app
[16:57] <lalondong> do i have to send the picture of my gparted?
[16:57] <lalondong> that's my linux were installed
[16:57] <theadmin> HomoSapiens: This isn't the place.
[16:57] <HomoSapiens> ok
[16:57] <econdudeawesome> theadmin: fantastic. Thanks yall, even though it wasnt an ubuntu-specific question
[16:57] <HomoSapiens> any channel that best suits the topic?
[16:58] <econdudeawesome> HomoSapiens: you might check out Hacker News (not a chan, a website; news.ycombinator.com). The community there is pretty startup/project centric
[16:58] <jrtappers> HomoSapiens, #ubuntu-offtopic possibly
[16:58] <Kruppt> lalondong:so it has not been resized yet and has your ubuntu OS installed in it now?
[16:58] <jrtappers> HomoSapiens, What kind of app? Sounds interesting
[17:00] <lalondong> i think so, as i remembered, it was sda6/linux-swap that joined with that 19 gb unallocated space.
[17:00] <lalondong> i'm on linux live-cd since i'm making those changes.
[17:02] <mawk> good evening
[17:02] <mawk> may i ask a question?
[17:02] <[twisti]> hi, i have a relatively normal ubuntu server lts 12.04 running, and its currently acting as a mail server, but since all of my users have opted to get their mails via gmail, and have gmail pull them from our server, i was wondering if there was a way to make the server automatically send/forward mails to gmail, so people dont have to wait for gmail to check (which it does pretty rarely)
[17:03] <hoylemd> I'm having trouble booting off a live USB stick on the most recent release.  When I try to boot up the live environment, I get a bunch of Call Traces, starting at kzalloc and ending at kernel_thread_helper.  I made the usb stick with LiLi in windows. Has anyone seen this before?
[17:04] <jrtappers> hoylemd, I use Yumi, I changed to avoid these bugs, and for multiboot
[17:06] <alcides> guys, will this script work fine to keep my pc up-to-date? http://pastebin.com/ERVBigHQ
[17:07] <holstein> alcides: i use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:07] <lalondong> so is there any change that my linux are saved?
[17:07] <alcides> dist-upgrade > upgrade, right?
[17:07] <mshake> ??
[17:07] <alcides> i mean... its better
[17:08] <mshake> so anynews about the update problem
[17:09] <mshake> should i update or what
[17:09] <mshake> :/ i'm still waiting
[17:10] <Kruppt> lalondong:type ->mount<- in the root terminal, copy output, and post link
[17:10] <HomoSapiens> @jrtappers, a mobile app
[17:11] <lalondong> here's link : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619832/
[17:11] <holstein> lalondong: what is the question?
[17:11] <jrtappers> HomoSapiens, that narrows it down to over 1,500,00 apps :D
[17:12] <kimir> I created .ico file using gimp which I want to use for .desktop (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619834/) but it doesn't work. A white file icon is shown instead. Any idea why?
[17:12] <yigal> scanimage isn't working with a brother ads-2000 in ubuntu 12.10.  I've followed http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1a.html and can scan via xsane just not via cli.
[17:12] <HomoSapiens> @jrtappers, you're absolutely right ;P
[17:12] <lalondong> holstein : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619840/
[17:12] <jrtappers> * add a 0 to the end, 700k apple + 700k android + an estimate for others
[17:12] <yigal> sane-find-scanner doesn't find the scanner.  Any suggestions?
[17:13] <doomlord> i have a mac touchpad working, nice, is it possible to rebind the gestures - i'm after 3 or 4 finger swipes for 'expo' , next/prev desktop, scale
[17:13] <holstein> kimir: i might start with a simpler name.. and try pointing to a known good ico
[17:13] <holstein> lalondong: sure.. whats the question?
[17:13] <HomoSapiens> @jrtappers, the idea is to use https://www.moovia.com/ as a mean to lay out all needed tasks
[17:13] <Kruppt> lalondong:type >swapoff /dev/sda6< in root terminal
[17:13] <holstein> lalondong: i read that.. and i suggested booting from live CD with no swap
[17:13] <hid> HI
[17:14] <HomoSapiens> my idea is to start up an app called PushApp
[17:14] <holstein> lalondong: are you booted from live CD with the command Kruppt just suggested?
[17:14] <kimir> holstein: Pointed to a known-good ico and works...
[17:14] <lalondong> Kruppt : it says ; swapoff: /dev/sda6: swapoff failed: No such file or directory
[17:14] <holstein> kimir: so, its your ico.. i would copy the known good ico, and open that copy and look at it.. and mirror the settings/config
[17:14] <hid> I ave some problems with bumblebee. in fact I followed the ubuntu tutorial, then I rebooted the pc. "glxspheres" worked but "optirun glxspheres" didn't.
[17:14] <jrtappers> HomoSapiens, move to pm chat?
[17:15] <mourtus> hi im new on ubuntu and i have a probleme whit tty
[17:15] <mourtus> eny help plz
[17:15] <HomoSapiens> @jrtappers, pm chat?
[17:15] <hid> apparently bumblebee only works when the daemon is running, but isn't running when I log automatically
[17:15] <holstein> !tty | mourtus
[17:15] <lalondong> holstein : yeah
[17:15] <hid> I found something : http://askubuntu.com/questions/215146/ubuntu-12-10-nvidia-gt555m-bumblebee/215178#215178 . Can someone explain me this problem ?
[17:16] <Kruppt> lalondong: you typed swapoff /dev/sda6 in a root terminal ? post a link to output so I can see
[17:16] <mourtus> i do that but the probleme is wene i enter my login ana psw it show liggin incorrent
[17:16] <jrtappers> mourtus, what username are you using?
[17:16] <lalondong> here's the link boss : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5619865/
[17:17] <mourtus> i use mourtus
[17:17] <holstein> mourtus: then, reset the password.. or make sure you have the password correct, or caps lock. etc
[17:17] <mourtus> (sorry for my bad english)
[17:17] <jrtappers> mourtus, Don't worry, understanding is all that matters
[17:18] <mourtus> i do sheck the caps lock and evry thing and im sure that my pwr is corrent but the same probleme again
[17:19] <jrtappers> mourtus, Do you use auto-login?
[17:19] <mourtus> how i can do that
[17:19] <holstein> mourtus: then, reset the password with the recovery console at boot
[17:19] <jrtappers> mourtus, open terminal and try to run "sudo -i"
[17:20] <holstein> mourtus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[17:20] <mourtus> thanks  i will try
[17:20] <Kruppt> lalondong: Ok good, you should be able to right click on the sda6 partition, delete it, enlarge the sda5 partition from the free space, then create your swap
[17:20] <lalondong> how?
[17:21] <holstein> lalondong: using gparted from the live CD
[17:21] <lalondong> is that mean it's going to delete the sda6, what happen to the space after that?
[17:21] <Kruppt> lalondong: do you have gparted running?
[17:21] <lalondong> yeah still running boss.
[17:21] <Fira> Hi ! anyone knows how I can force the initramfs to drop me to busybox :( ?
[17:22] <Kruppt> lalondong:can you post a link of a screenshot of how it looks at the moment?
[17:22] <lalondong> the gparted ?
[17:23] <holstein> lalondong: yes
[17:23] <Kruppt> lalondong: yes if you can
[17:23] <lalondong> here's the link of the screenshot boss : http://postimage.org/image/pvug7t5rb/
[17:24] <LuizAngioletti> quit
[17:25] <gatojazz> :q
[17:25] <Kruppt> lalondong:you should be able to right click on sda6 and choose delete
[17:25] <lalondong> Ok. hold pon
[17:25] <lalondong> hold on
[17:26] <lalondong> okey boss
[17:26] <lalondong> it's deleted.
[17:26] <lalondong> what now?
[17:26] <holstein> lalondong: whatever you want.. right click on partitions and select the options you want
[17:26] <lalondong> i'm still confused.
[17:26] <Kruppt> lalondong: now resize sda5 to the size you prefer
[17:27] <holstein> lalondong: right click on the partition you want to edit..
[17:27] <lalondong> you mean joining the sda5 with the unallocated space?
[17:27] <lalondong> the sda5 has only 8.21 gb left
[17:28] <Kruppt> lalondong:do not do anything till your clear of what where doing
[17:28] <lalondong> okey
[17:28] <holstein> lalondong: you can set it up as you wish.. i suggest to new users to let the installer do automatic partitioning
[17:29] <theadmin> Yep, the installer does that great.
[17:29] <Kruppt> lalondong: you want to enlarge sda5 right? you right click on sda5 and choose resize
[17:31] <lalondong> yes...
[17:31] <lalondong> and what happend to the linux-swap?
[17:31] <lalondong> linux-swap are the sda6 that i've just deleted.
[17:31] <Soarez> any suggestions of good vendors of Ubuntu loaded personal laptops within the EU ?
[17:31] <holstein> lalondong: you deleted it
[17:31] <lalondong> omg
[17:31] <holstein> lalondong: you were asking about how to delete it
[17:32] <Kruppt> lalondong:do not worry about the swap now focus on resizing your sda5 the size you want, we will get to the swap
[17:32] <lalondong> Okey boss
[17:32] <lalondong> how much do i have to resize it?
[17:32] <naptastic> What major kernel version is Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using?
[17:32] <lalondong> the unallocated space still has about 20.95 gb free
[17:33] <holstein> naptastic:  3.2.0-38 is what i have
[17:33] <ezio> what's the curses  project for viewing network traffic
[17:33] <holstein> ezio: i use nmon
[17:33] <ezio> ty
[17:33] <naptastic> holstein, thanks, that's exactly what I needed :-)
[17:34] <Kruppt> lalondong: just leave a gig or so for your swap, the leaftover will be freespace we will create your swap from
[17:34] <mtadyshak> Importing bookmarks into Firefox from html results in a sub-folder called  Bookmarks Toolbar.  How to actually get your bookmarks on the bookmarks toolbar  itself?
[17:34] <theadmin> mtadyshak: They are, the bookmarks toolbar is hidden by default afaik
[17:35] <theadmin> mtadyshak: View -> Toolbars -> Bookmark toolbar
[17:35] <ezio> holstein, i need port numbers of connections and ip addresses
[17:35] <roby153> ciao!list
[17:35] <lalondong> Kruppt: how much free space do i have to left for the swap? 2 gb?
[17:36] <grendal-prime> grrrrr kvm as underprivalged user
[17:36] <grendal-prime> this is killing me
[17:36] <holstein> ezio: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.tw/2009/05/iptraf-ncurses-based-lan-monitor.html http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[17:36] <holstein> lalondong: look in gparted and see how much space you have
[17:36] <ezio> holstein, yes!  this is it
[17:37] <lalondong> holstein : the sda5 (ext4) have about 8.21 gb
[17:37] <mtadyshak1> I activated the bookmarks toolbar.  But when I imported my bookmarks they went into a sub-folder named Bookmarks toolbar and they did not show up on the actual bookmarks toolbar.
[17:37] <holstein> ezio: i searched "ncurses network monitor" for future reference
[17:37] <lalondong> holstein : while the unallocated space have about 20.95 gb .
[17:37] <holstein> lalondong: you can set that up as you please...
[17:38] <lalondong> holstein : is swap actually important?
[17:38] <mtadyshak1> Where is "Organize Favorites" like in Win7?
[17:38] <lalondong> and how much space for default swap should be?
[17:38] <KornKage> hi there, i got a new laptop yesterday preinstalled with windows 7, but i want to put in ubuntu in it as well for dualboot, is there a safe way thats not intrusive to do this ?
[17:38] <holstein> !swap
[17:38] <theadmin> mtadyshak: Uh, it's called "Library" in Firefox
[17:39] <theadmin> mtadyshak: Ctrl-Shift-O
[17:39] <holstein> lalondong: what would i do? let the installer automatically configure swap.. what should you do? make a swap partition of maybe 2gb's
[17:40] <lalondong> okey..
[17:40] <Kruppt> lalondong: resize sda5 to 27 should be fine
[17:40] <lalondong> Okey bos
[17:41] <mtadyshak1> I fixed it, thanks.
[17:41] <borodino> Hello!
[17:41] <Kruppt> lalondong: once you have resized sda5 to 27... let me know
[17:41] <gustav_> How do I pause the screensaver in X? While watching long YouTube-videos if you need to know.
[17:41] <ezio> holstein, i thought i had searched that term but my history is calling me a liar
[17:42] <lalondong> Kruppt : Finished boss? do i have to send the screenshot?
[17:43] <Kruppt> lalondong: now right click on the remaining freespace and create a swap partition of it
[17:43] <borodino> hello!
[17:43] <lalondong> Kruppt : it only have 'new' on the menu that are active
[17:44] <Kruppt> lalondong: then post link to a screeshot of gparted
[17:44] <borodino> i need help setting up Tor
[17:45] <holstein> !tor | borodino also, this "You can also pretty much do http_proxy="http://bleh:8888" firefox   and it'll work." from the other channel
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> borodino, You can download a tor browser if that is what you need from tor
[17:45] <ezio> YESYESYESYES
[17:46] <ezio> YES
[17:46] <ezio> yes
[17:46] <ezio> ahhh yes
[17:46] <FloodBot1> ezio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <ezio> FloodBot1, yes
[17:46] <lalondong> Kruppt : here's the link boss : http://postimage.org/image/lfmc8ufi5/
[17:47] <ezio> :)
[17:48] <Kruppt> lalondong: ok, looking good, youshould be able to right click on the unallocated space now and make a swap partition
[17:49] <Kruppt> lalondong: the 2.7 unallocated space
[17:49] <lalondong> Kruppt : right click -> new -> filesystem -> linux-swap?
[17:50] <sam1> how can I change the path of a partition?
[17:50] <holstein> !swap | lalondong
[17:50] <sam1> I want /dev/sda2 to be /dev/sda1
[17:50] <Kruppt> lalondong: yes on the 2.79 unallocated space
[17:50] <holstein> sam1: why? you can usually refer to the uuid ..or use a mount point
[17:51] <sam1> because there is only one partition on the drive… it bugs me
[17:51] <lalondong> Okey finished boss. What now?
[17:51] <sam1> who decides the path actually?
[17:52] <holstein> sam1: you can look at "sudo fdisk -l" ..i bet you'll find there is a recovery partition or something on there
[17:52] <lalondong> Kruppt : it's finished. do i have to send the screenshoot?
[17:52] <sam1> holstein: nope
[17:52] <mourtus> can enyone tel me how to instal vim on ubuntu
[17:52] <sam1> it's the only one
[17:52] <sam1> sudo apt-get install vim
[17:53] <mourtus> thanks
[17:53] <holstein> sam1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/178732/can-i-change-my-devices-from-for-example-sda1-to-sda2
[17:53] <holstein> sam1: there *is* another partition there
[17:53] <Kruppt> lalondong:from menu EDIT -> Apply All Operations, only if all is correct, you could post link to screenshot first if you wish so I can see the end result so far
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> borodino, stop PMing
[17:54] <lalondong> Kruppt : i'll post it right away box
[17:54] <lalondong> boss
[17:54] <mourtus> when i write sudo apt-gat install vim it show me E: Impossible d'obtenir le verrou /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Ressource temporairement non disponible) E: Impossible de verrouiller le répertoire d'administration (/var/lib/dpkg/). Il est possible qu'un autre processus l'utilise.
[17:54] <sam1> holstein: well fdisk doesn't list it
[17:54] <holstein> mourtus: close other package managers
[17:54] <sam1> gparted either
[17:55] <mourtus> how i do that
[17:55] <holstein> sam1: you have 2 names.. you get those names somewhere.. you can refer to that link i gave.. i wouldnt mess with it, or i would open gparted from a liveCD
[17:55] <jrtappers> mourtus, Have you got softare center open?
[17:55] <mourtus> yes
[17:55] <holstein> mourtus: just close them.. click close or exit from the menu
[17:55] <mourtus> ok thaks
[17:56] <lalondong> Kruppt : here's the screenshot bos ; http://postimage.org/image/cih2caa05/
[17:56] <lalondong> Kruppt : but i'm still confused what is that exclamation mark on the sda5 and the rest. ?
[17:58] <holstein> lalondong: you should see what error is being pointed out by clicking
[17:58] <Kruppt> lalondong:what partitioning program did you originally use to create the partitions?
[17:59] <lalondong> holstein : its not pointed out.
[17:59] <KornKage> whats the best ubuntu to install right now ? 12.04 ?
[17:59] <aron> . where can i find a good file sharing site?
[17:59] <lalondong> Kruppt: i created the partition on windows using Ease Partition.
[17:59] <jrtappers> KornKage, depends
[18:00] <jeanfrancois> I think 12.10 is less stable than 12.04
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> KornKage, 12.04 has 5 years support, best is a subjective.
[18:00] <KornKage> ubuntu 13 sucks then ?
[18:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Sucks? It's still in beta
[18:00] <twist3d> beta
[18:00] <twist3d> !beta
[18:00] <Guest97544> anyone?
[18:00] <KornKage> ok 12.4 is the way to go then
[18:00] <KornKage> thanks :)
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> KornKage, I would take what any one person says about any OS with a grain of salt at best.
[18:01] <Kruppt> lalondong: it is probably a warning as to cylinder boundaries, as you used some windows type program originally
[18:01] <KornKage> where can i illegaly pirate ubuntu 12.04 btw ?
[18:01] <DJones> KornKage: Don't troll the channel
[18:01] <KornKage> ok
[18:01] <jeanfrancois> pirate why? it's free...
[18:01] <KornKage> sorry
[18:02] <lalondong> Kruppt : ahh okey. so what do i have to do now?
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> KornKage, you can download it from a torrent if that is what you mean.
[18:02] <lalondong> Kruppt : just like you told me before? edit -> apply all operations?
[18:03] <KornKage> wilee-nilee nv, just for the support , ill get 12.04
[18:03] <KornKage> nvm
[18:03] <Guest97544> do any of u troll black ops 2??
[18:03] <DJones> Guest97544: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[18:03] <jacob233> Hello, I am having this exact issue. same specs and hardware too http://askubuntu.com/questions/246413/install-error-for-lubuntu-12-10-powerbook-g4-ppc-cpu
[18:03] <twist3d> Guest97544, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
[18:03] <Kruppt> lalondong: Yes do not interrupt, leave all alone while the processes are running
[18:04] <lalondong> Kruppt : Okey, and how do i know it's finished?
[18:04] <Guest97544> DJones: I need a vasectimy!!!!
[18:04] <holstein> !ppc | jacob233
[18:04] <twist3d> hmm
[18:04] <twist3d> bye bye
[18:04] <holstein> jacob233: i would try nomodeset and other options from the live CD
[18:05] <jacob233> holstein, is nomodeset one of the boot commands? I have not tired that one..
[18:05] <holstein> !nomodset
[18:05] <lalondong> Kruppt : it says error : http://postimage.org/image/vybjgys7v/
[18:05] <holstein> !nomodeset
[18:05] <Kruppt> lalondong: it should say when it has completed all it has to do, there are going to be several programs gparted will be running to complete the overall task
[18:06] <holstein> jacob233: though, i would just try them all, and maybe even physically remove hardare from the device
[18:06] <twist3d> DJones, is there a command to see all the available commands for ubottu?
[18:06] <jacob233> thank you i will try that right now holstein
[18:06] <DJones> !bot | twist3d This is probably the best info,
[18:08] <twist3d> DJones, thx
[18:08] <lalondong> Kruppt : it says error : http://postimage.org/image/vybjgys7v/
[18:09] <lalondong> Kruppt : this is the gparted_details : http://postimage.org/image/rlfunm3rx/
[18:09] <Kruppt> lalondong:what are the "details"
[18:09] <usuario> erme
[18:09] <lalondong> Kruppt : the details of the error.
[18:11] <Kruppt> lalondong:click ok and get back to me
[18:12] <lalondong> Kruppt : it back to where the unallocated space are 20.95 gb
[18:13] <lalondong> Kruppt : shall i apply this just in case to save it?
[18:14] <holstein> lalondong: apply is more that "save".. it applies the changes to the disk.. altering the disk
[18:14] <Kruppt> lalondong: stay cool, post a screenshot
[18:16] <lalondong> Kruppt : after i clicked okey when that error screen pop up. it go back to this : http://postimage.org/image/le8q4fm6p/
[18:17] <lalondong> Kruppt : is that exclamation point means it's actually mounted?
[18:18] <Kruppt> lalondong: OK, right click on sda5 choose resize as you did before increase to 27, then from menu EDit -> Apply all operations
[18:18] <DJRWolf> anyone know if Ubuntu is going to have a spin-off with Cinnamon UI like it has with XFCE and LXDE?
[18:18] <lalondong> Kruppt : without make the swap right? just increase to 27 gb?
[18:19] <xguiga> hi all... anyone that live in the usa can help with something?
[18:19] <bazhang> DJRWolf, outside of a PPA you mean? official?
[18:19] <Kruppt> lalondong: run df -Th from root terminal, post a link to output
[18:19] <twist3d> !help
[18:20] <DJRWolf> bazhang: like a "cubuntu", same as xubuntu and lubuntu
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> DJRWolf, cinnamon is a mint fork, I doubt ubuntu will do anything with it.
[18:20] <bazhang> DJRWolf, no
[18:21] <bazhang> xguiga, did you have an actual ubuntu support question
[18:21] <danes> hello where can I find out if a printer is supported? I plan to buy a Lexmark x-9350 and I want to find out if the printer will work with ubuntu
[18:21] <bazhang> linuxprinting.org db danes
[18:21] <lalondong> Kruppt : i haven't resize the dsa5, . this is the root terminal result : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620063/
[18:21] <yigal> Does anyone know how to increase the verbosity of xsane - other than strace?
[18:21] <xguiga> bazhang, sorry but i don´t think so!
[18:21] <sam1> if I want to mount a new partition to /home, I need to edit fstab, right?
[18:22] <bazhang> xguiga, then #ubuntu-offtopic , please
[18:22] <twist3d> danes, you need to verify that the manufactorer supports linux drivers.  If so, you should be good.
[18:22] <xguiga> ok thanks
[18:22] <luenner> I cannot find anything in my logs (dmesg, /var/log/{messages,etc.}. What happened to Linux in past 4 years? Before that, you always had bunch of lines about your last action, in messages, syslog or dmesg - and probably in all of them
[18:22] <[twisti]> hi, i have a relatively normal ubuntu server lts 12.04 running, and its currently acting as a mail server, but since all of my users have opted to get their mails via gmail, and have gmail pull them from our server, i was wondering if there was a way to make the server automatically send/forward mails to gmail, so people dont have to wait for gmail to check (which it does pretty rarely)
[18:23] <yigal> [twisti]: postfix certainly can allow this
[18:23] <Kruppt> lalondong: ok sda5 is not mounted, right click on sda5, resize to 27gb, then Edit->Apply All Operations
[18:24] <twist3d> danes, it does not look like that printer is released with linux drivers.  There are third party drivers for that printer though.
[18:24] <yigal> [twisti]: for example http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-bsd-postfix-forward-email-to-another-account/
[18:24] <lalondong> Kruppt : okey
[18:24] <[twisti]> thanks, ill check that out
[18:24] <yigal> [twisti]: cool man
[18:25] <danes> twist3d:  thanks, where can I find more info about those third party drivers?
[18:25] <lalondong> Kruppt : it says the same pop up error
[18:25] <j3h-xxx> hi
[18:26] <yigal> ough xsane is like a blackbox, this is frustrating.
[18:26] <twist3d> danes, google your printer and hope that the driver pack isnt laced full of fun extras.  Not recommended btw.
[18:26] <j3h-xxx> olap
[18:26] <twist3d> danes, you can also email Lexmark Printer Support from their web page and see what they say\
[18:26] <j3h-xxx> alguien habla es pañol
[18:27] <twist3d> !es j3h-xxx
[18:27] <lalondong> Kruppt :  this is the gparted_details after i clicked okey : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620081/
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> danes, I don't see official support for the lexmark
[18:27] <danes> j3h-xxx:  accesa el canal de ayuda en espanol ubuntu-es
[18:27] <j3h-xxx> aaaa grasia
[18:27] <j3h-xxx> solo le coloco -es
[18:28] <twist3d> !sp
[18:28] <danes> j3h-xxx: si
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> danes, here is a page on supported https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers#Supported_Printers
[18:30] <Kruppt> llalondong: an inode or file on sda5 is not right, you need to run-> e2fsck -v -p -f /dev/sda5 <- and see if you can fix the filesystem on sda5
[18:30] <lalondong> Kruppt : you there?
[18:31] <yigal> Xsane works flawlessly but scanimage fails.  Any suggestions getting scanimage to work?
[18:31] <Kruppt> lalondong: yes, stay cool take a look at my last post
[18:31] <Deas> how does one get files from a dir in home symlinked to /var/www so that it shows up on apache webserver in the browser? ive done ln -s already but that gives me 403
[18:31] <zetheroo> whats a basic command for mkfs ext4 ?
[18:32] <Kruppt> lalondong: from root terminal run -> e2fsck -v -p -f /dev/sda5 <-
[18:33] <ge> Good Morning! I have one drive in my computer: sda. When I do "fdisk -l" it nicely lists all my partitions: sda1, sda2 etc. But it also lists a bunch of crap like dm-0, dm-1 etc. What is that?
[18:33] <twist3d> Deas, sudo ln -s /path/to/file  /var/www    works for me
[18:33] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620100/
[18:34] <twist3d> ge, do you have an encrypted folder/volume?
[18:36] <yigal> Well it is indeed too bad that no one here has any troubleshooting scanning devices.  The good news is that I have now have 4.6M strace of xsane working.
[18:36] <ge> twist3d: yes. ah, its lvm! thanks!
[18:37] <twist3d> ge, =) you can run sudo dmsetup ls to see whats behind it
[18:37] <Kruppt> lalondong: ok need to determine if e2fsck is even installed run-> find / -name "e2fsck" | grep bin <- from root terminal
[18:37] <jacob233> holstein, do you know if its normal to have to reset pram after live boots?
[18:38] <jelly-home> Kruppt: dpkg -L e2fsprogs
[18:38] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620125/
[18:39] <xcristi> quit
[18:40] <Kruppt> lalondong: ok run -> fdisk -l <- from root term again so I can see what the partitions are at the moment in actuality
[18:40] <yigal> wow the strace has no mention of the usb vendor, yigal@ZeTov:~$ grep -i 056a strace_xsane.txt
[18:40] <yigal> yigal@ZeTov:~$yigal@ZeTov:~$ grep -i 056a strace_xsane.txt
[18:41] <lalondong> Kruppt : okey, here's the link : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620135/
[18:43] <Kruppt> lalondong: run -> /sbin/e2fsck -v -p -f /dev/sda5 <- from root terminal
[18:43] <jacob233> sudo rm -rf /
[18:43] <lalondong> Kruppt : it still says : root@ubuntu:~# /sbin/e2fsck -v -p -f /dev/sda5 /sbin/e2fsck: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda5 Possibly non-existent device?
[18:44] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620151/
[18:45] <Kruppt> lalondong: Is there actually a filesystem on sda5?
[18:46] <lalondong> Kruppt :  what filesystem?
[18:47] <lalondong> Kruppt : you mean filesystem for Ubuntu that i've installed before?
[18:48] <Kruppt> lalondong: run the following commands from a root terminal -> mkdir /mnt/sda5 <-  then -> mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5 <- from root terminal
[18:48] <viveak> hi guys, I am looking for Ubuntu for Phone ROM
[18:48] <bazhang> !phone | viveak
[18:48] <pranavk> I don't why my pc is not able to connect to network via ethernet. However I am able to connect to the same network via wifi. Here is my log file with DHCP enabled : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620162/
[18:49] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620165/
[18:49] <viveak> ubottu: thanks
[18:49] <pranavk> and here with DHCP disabled : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620166/
[18:53] <Kruppt> lalondong: can you reboot? it has lost /dev/sda5 though it really exist. close down gparted and reboot
[18:53] <wad> Hi folks. I've got my Ubuntu server up and running. I'm sharing some big hard drives over the network with samba. It has two printers attached, I need to share these with the network also (a mix of windows and linux machines). I attempted to use Samba for this, but have not been able to get it to work.
[18:53] <wad> Is samba the best way to share printers over the network?
[18:53] <ubuquity-sucks> this ubiquity 12.04 installer is the buggest installer of the history of forever
[18:54] <wad> It's 12.04 32-bit desktop.
[18:54] <bazhang> !bug | ubuquity-sucks
[18:54] <ubuquity-sucks> usb not working, network connection not established, usb install drops me to busybox, uefi install complains about missing kernel
[18:54] <ubuquity-sucks> i mean, the number of bugs is absurd
[18:54] <bazhang> ubuquity-sucks, so file a bug
[18:54] <ubuquity-sucks> they're already there on launchpad
[18:55] <ubuquity-sucks> waiting for you to fix them
[18:55] <bazhang> ubuquity-sucks, this is not the rant/complaint channel
[18:55] <ubuquity-sucks> who do I complain to?
[18:55] <bazhang> ubuquity-sucks, you dont
[18:55] <Kruppt> lalondong: You there?
[18:55] <wad> if it's open source, you don't complain. You join the community and help fix the bugs.
[18:56] <nickles> Hi. Is anyone familiar with logwatch? In the reports I'm getting for cron, there are a large number of "**Unmatched Entries**" which are all "CMD ()". Has anyone experienced this/does anyone know a fix for it?
[18:56] <ubuquity-sucks> if your an open source dev, you don't put out software that wastes other peoples time and then say, "well it's free, GFY"
[18:56] <kromium> I just installed ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop, which has Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300 wifi adapter. I don't see it listed in "lspci" output. How can I enable it?
[18:56] <wad> If you have no programming skills, you can at least offer to test bugfixes and such, or verify them.
[18:56] <bazhang> ubuquity-sucks, stop
[18:56] <ubuquity-sucks> hammertime
[18:57] <param__> sudo: unknown uid 1000: who are you?    i removed gshadow, shadow , and passwd file from etc , after that i got this error
[18:57] <luenner> Is there some tool, that will manage Upstart services via .override files automatically?
[18:57] <lalondong> Kruppt : yes i am
[18:57] <pranavk> param__: lol, you were not supposed to do that
[18:57] <KornKage> whats better for a amd card 12.04 or 12.10
[18:57] <param__> what to do now ? :(
[18:57] <KornKage> laptop 7670m
[18:57] <pranavk> param__: they are basic files containing information about various users credentials,
[18:57] <twist3d> !ubuntu-restricted-extras | kromium
[18:58] <lalondong> Kruppt : all i need to do is that reboot, and get my ass back to this live cd right?
[18:58] <param__> cant i get them back ?
[18:58] <pranavk> param__: SEE if there is a backup file there or not in /etc
[18:58] <kromium> twist3d: This is regarding wireless adapter not working..
[18:59] <twist3d> kromium, what driver are you using for the wirelessa dapter?
[18:59] <Kruppt> lalondong: yes
[18:59] <param__> no there is no backup file
[18:59] <lalondong> Kruppt : okey, i'll be right back in a few minutes, please wait.
[18:59] <kromium> iwlwifi is loaded
[18:59] <pranavk> param__: there should be passwd- file name there
[18:59] <pranavk> param__: and similarly , 'gshadow-' file there
[18:59] <kromium> twist3d: I can see iwlwifi in the output of lsmod | grep wifi
[18:59] <param__> i removed that one
[18:59] <twist3d> kromium, has it worked in the past on your build?
[19:00] <pranavk> param__: not that there is an '-' in the end of the file i am mentioning above
[19:00] <Kruppt> lalondong: then open root terminal run -> fdisk -l <- again and we will go from there
[19:00] <kromium> no this is the first time install on fresh laptop :)
[19:00] <pranavk> param__: you removed both files with '-' and without '-' ?
[19:00] <param__> without
[19:00] <intrader> I have an overheating problem in Ubuntu 12.04 on Lenovo t61p making the laptop unusable at full screen - temp2 in psensors goes beyond 100C and machine shuts down. I have tried various  drivers. Currently lpspci reports  VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84M [Quadro FX 570M] (rev a1)
[19:00] <intrader>  as selectred driver. Are there alternatives that don't overheat the laptop?
[19:00] <param__> i did   rm passwd   rm shadow   rm gshadow
[19:00] <pranavk> param__: okay, then just copy those gshadow- file as gshadow
[19:00] <pranavk> param__: cp passwd- passwd
[19:01] <twist3d> kromium, what chipset is your wifi adapter using?
[19:01] <pranavk> param__: cp gshadow- gshadow
[19:01] <kromium> it is Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300
[19:01] <kromium> twist3d: Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300, a newer adapter
[19:01] <pranavk> param__: cp shadow- shadow
[19:01] <param__> cp: cannot stat `passwd-': No such file or directory
[19:02] <kromium> twist3d: I did copy the ucode files to /lib/firmware/
[19:02] <param__> i am in etc directory , should i come out of it
[19:02] <param__> ?
[19:02] <pranavk> param__: seems like you deleted both file with '-' and without '-' also
[19:02] <pranavk> param__: no, /etc/ directory is fine
[19:02] <kromium> twist3d: but I don't know how to load them
[19:03] <jelly-home> param__: pastebin the output of find /etc /var/backups -name 'passwd*' -o -name '*shadow*' -ls
[19:03] <param__> any other solution ?
[19:03] <lalondong> Kruppt : i'm back.
[19:03] <lalondong> Kruppt : so what do i have to do now?
[19:04] <Kruppt> lalondong:open root terminal run -> fdisk -l <- again and we will go from there
[19:04] <pranavk> param__: yes, follow jelly-home command, sometimes backups are there for these files as i have them on my pc.
[19:04] <param__> find: `/etc/ssl/private': Permission denied   1810   12 -rw-r--r--   1 0        root         9887 Mar 31  2012 /etc/bash_completion.d/shadow   1544    4 -rw-r-----   1 0        shadow        778 Feb 22 14:07 /etc/shadow
[19:04] <lalondong> Kruppt : how to use that ubuntu paste again?
[19:05] <jelly-home> param__: use paste.ubuntu.com or some other pastebin site, do not paste here directly
[19:05] <param__> do i need to run all these commands in etc ?
[19:05] <twist3d> kromium, try sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-RELEASE
[19:05] <param__> ok
[19:05] <lalondong> Kruppt : the link?
[19:05] <jelly-home> param__: that's one command.
[19:05] <kromium> twist3d: ok
[19:05] <pranavk> param__: just go to /var/backups and see if you can see files with name 'passwd.bak' or not
[19:05] <jelly-home> there's no need to "go to"
[19:05] <pranavk> if you finding that command hard to execute , :p
[19:06] <Kruppt> lalondong: OK http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:06] <param__> yups i got
[19:06] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620215/
[19:06] <nickles> Where are cron's logs stored in Ubuntu 12.04?
[19:06] <jelly-home> param__: show just the resulting url of your paste in here, please
[19:07] <param__> resulting url of find command ?
[19:07] <pranavk> jelly-home: how frequently these backups are made, i guess there must be some .conf controlling that
[19:07] <jelly-home> param__: of pastebinning the output of find command, yes
[19:07] <Kruppt> lalondong: from root terminal -> mkdir /mnt/sda5;mount /dev/sda5 /mnt <-
[19:08] <jelly-home> pranavk: /etc/cron.daily/passwd here
[19:08] <param__> http://pastebin.com/jaGDYez6
[19:08] <pranavk> oic
[19:09] <lalondong> Kruppt : okey, nothings happened after that, it point the root@ubuntu : ~#
[19:09] <lalondong> Kruppt : is that mean its working?
[19:09] <Kruppt> lalondong: mkdir /mnt/sda5;mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
[19:09] <jacob233> holstein, reseating all hardware fixed my issue.
[19:10] <jacob233> =/
[19:10] <jelly-home> param__: no backups of passwd file, eh?  Your system is screwed.  Boot from a livecd, copy the important data and reinstall -- the easiest thing to do
[19:10] <holstein> jacob233: cheers..
[19:10] <param__> its my cloud i am using ...
[19:10] <lalondong> Krupppt : okey it's open a new explorer. what now?
[19:10] <jacob233> thanks for your help.
[19:10] <param__> its the image of my openstack cloud
[19:10] <jelly-home> reimage it?
[19:10] <jelly-home> do the equivalent of the above.
[19:10] <param__> so no solution for it ?
[19:11] <Kruppt> lalondong: ok you can see system folders and files?
[19:11] <jelly-home> param__: it depends on how much time and effort you want to spend reconstructing the files.
[19:11] <lalondong> Kruppt : yes, what now?
[19:11] <param__> ok thanks :)
[19:12] <Kruppt> lalondong: OK, good the filesystem is there...
[19:12] <jelly-home> param__: there's always a solution.  Usually it's restore from a valid backup.
[19:12] <jelly-home> s/Usually/On a sane setup/
[19:12] <param__> but you said there is no backup ?
[19:12] <lalondong> Kruppt : Okey, i'll follow you, what now?
[19:12] <param__> its just a uec cloud image
[19:12] <Kruppt> lalondong:from root terminal -> umount /mnt/sda5
[19:13] <jelly-home> param__: so create a new one, and copy any unique data over.
[19:13] <nickles> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm noticing an empty cron job running every 5 minutes.
[19:13] <param__> ok :)
[19:13] <nickles> Mar 16 14:40:01 mozzarella CRON[3632]: (root) CMD ()
[19:13] <nickles> Mar 16 14:45:01 mozzarella CRON[3634]: (root) CMD ()
[19:13] <nickles> Anyway I can trace this to its source?
[19:13] <lalondong> Kruppt : okey, nothings happened again, it shows the root@ubuntu:~#
[19:14] <Kruppt> lalondong: good ..now from root terminal -> e2fsck -v -p -f /dev/sda5 <-
[19:15] <Guest7275> buonasera
[19:15] <Guest7275> !list
[19:15] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620242/
[19:16] <Kruppt> lalondong: type n !!!!
[19:16] <mk527> how can I run programs automatically when I log into ubuntu? I would like to run `xmodmap ~/.my-mappings` and `xflux -l 52` for example. I have tried adding these lines to the .xsession and .xinitrc files but it didn't work. Could someone help with this? Is this the right place to ask?
[19:17] <lalondong> Kruppt : okey, check aborted. what now?
[19:17] <Kruppt> lalondong: umount /mnt/sda5    ....from root terminal
[19:17] <pranavk> mk527: write the command in your .bashrc file located in your home folder
[19:17] <pranavk> mk527: .bashrc is executed everytime you login with that user..
[19:17] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620246/
[19:18] <Kruppt> lalondong: then to make sure it is not mounted run df -Th and sda5 should not be
[19:19] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620250/
[19:19] <Kruppt> lalondong: umount /mnt ....from root terminal and we're ok
[19:21] <lalondong> Kruppt : i just have to type : umount /mnt <- from the root terminal right? or with that '. . . .'
[19:21] <Kruppt> lalondong:    umount /mnt
[19:21] <lalondong> Kruppt : OKey hold on
[19:22] <mk527`> parnavk: thanks, I tried also that but when I open a new shell xflux is restarted which causes the screen to jump to a blue color before it kicks in again. As far as I understand it, this should be possible via one of .xsession or .xinitrc?
[19:22] <lalondong> Kruppt : Okey, nothings happend, showing the root@ubuntu again
[19:22] <lalondong> Kruppt : is that mean, we're okey now?
[19:22] <Kruppt> lalondong: run df -Th to be sure sda5 does not show in output
[19:23] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620267/
[19:23] <yank> hi folks need help here
[19:23] <yank> apparently wrongly configured webmail is showing localhost instead of senders IP address in header section, is there any way to track real ip from header or log?
[19:24] <BlueWolf> Hi there, I have a .run file in my downloads and I can't seem to get it to install, I did try ( ~/Downloads/Savage2-2.1.0.8-linux-x64-installer.run ) but it does not seem to work, how do I install it?
[19:24] <pranavk> mk527`: if you are using desktop environments, they don't use .xsession file at all as far as i know
[19:25] <lalondong> Kruppt : now we're okey right?
[19:25] <Kruppt> lalondong: /sbin/e2fsck -v -p -f /dev/sda5  ....make sure all is typed right before executing in root shell
[19:25] <pranavk> mk527`: and .xinitrc is used if you are using wrapper script like startx to start the X from the text mode
[19:25] <brian_> Hey guys. I've been unable to set up rules which allow me to access the internet using my VPN and only my VPN.
[19:25] <brian_> I have GUFW and I've set a rule which enables me to connect to the VPN (To [IP] [Port]/udp, Allow Out, From Anywhere)
[19:25] <brian_> Then I followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1496473
[19:26] <brian_> Allow In Both To (Your IP, that you collected from whatismyip.com
[19:26] <brian_>  Allow Out Both From (The same IP again)
[19:26] <lalondong> Kruppt : what do you mean? i just have to type that from root terminal?>
[19:26] <brian_> I'm still completely unable to connect to websites when I reject outgoing connections by default. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10
[19:26] <Kruppt> lalondong: yes run that in a root terminal
[19:27] <mk527`> pranavk: okay, thanks anyway, I guess I could try a workaround that checks if the commands have previously been run in the same login session or something.
[19:27] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620278/
[19:27] <pranavk> mk527`: no no, there must be some replacement for .xsession if it is not used today.
[19:28] <BlueWolf> Hi there, I have a .run file in my downloads and I can't seem to get it to install, I did try ( ~/Downloads/Savage2-2.1.0.8-linux-x64-installer.run ) but it does not seem to work, how do I install it?
[19:28] <pranavk> mk527`: you are using gnome, kde or what ?
[19:28] <Kruppt> lalondong: all is good with the filesystem
[19:29] <mk527`> pranavk: I'm using gnome sometimes but I prefer to use xfce
[19:29] <lalondong> Kruppt : that's a good news right? so what do i have to do now?
[19:29] <Kruppt> lalondong: yes it is...what livecd are you currently booted into?
[19:30] <lalondong> Kruppt : Great :D , live-cd from a usb
[19:30] <psichas> mk527, i like xfce i prefer use blackbox :)))
[19:30] <brian_> Is anyone here familiar with firewalls and VPN's?
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> BlueWolf, did you cd downloads
[19:31] <pranavk> mk527`: hope someone on this channel know about that problem, i am sorry, i don't know solving that !
[19:31] <lalondong> Kruppt : flashdisk usb
[19:31] <Kruppt> lalondong:yes but what is it exactly?
[19:31] <nickles> How do I see all cron jobs scheduled to run? I'm looking to figure out where an empty job is being scheduled to run every 5 minutes
[19:31] <pranavk> nickles: crontab -l
[19:31] <BlueWolf> wilee-nilee: cd no, why?
[19:31] <nickles> pranavk: Thanks
[19:32] <mk527`> pranavk: that's okay, thanks a lot anyway! I'll look into to it somemore online :)
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> BlueWolf, to run that command you have to be in the Downloads with a cd probably, you might pastebin any errors for best help.
[19:32] <pranavk> mk527`: lemme know how you are able to solve it, i am also curious to know ..
[19:32] <Kruppt> lalondong: Ubuntu?
[19:32] <lalondong> Kruppt : what do you mean what is it exactly? this is what i used to install the linux on sda5, now i'm running the Try ubuntu on menu section when i boot this usb
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> BlueWolf, Just guessing on running that command to be honest.
[19:33] <mk527`> pranavk: ok, I guess I can just write to your name here then..
[19:33] <pranavk> mk527`: yes, i am always online !
[19:33] <pranavk> :D
[19:33] <BlueWolf> wilee-nilee: Ok I don't know what cd means or what the command is like, could you elaborate?
[19:34] <brian_> Is anyone here familiar with firewalls and VPN's?
[19:34] <jrtappers> brian_, ?
[19:34] <brian_> I've been unable to set up rules which allow me to access the internet using my VPN and only my VPN.
[19:34] <lalondong> Kruppt : Yes ubuntu, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[19:35] <brian_> I have GUFW and I've set a rule which enables me to connect to the VPN (To [IP] [Port]/udp, Allow Out, From Anywhere)
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> BlueWolf, I'm not sure I'm your best help here, but to get to a folder to run stuff it would be ~/Downloads   then run the run command
[19:35] <brian_> Then I followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1496473
[19:35] <brian_> Allow In Both To (Your IP, that you collected from whatismyip.com
[19:35] <brian_>  Allow Out Both From (The same IP again)
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> BlueWolf, sorry cd ~/Downloads
[19:35] <brian_> I'm still completely unable to connect to websites when I reject outgoing connections by default. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10
[19:35] <jrtappers> brian_, Are you on a server or gateway?
[19:36] <Kruppt> lalondong:Ok now lets see if gparted will not flake out this time, we are going to do each step separately if we can
[19:36] <xananax> For the love of whatever you hold dear, please help me. I am going crazy over this. Trying to install Ubuntu on Lenovo y500. Disabled UEFI, using legacy boot, got rid on windows, not interested in dual-boot, but grub won't run. Stuck after bios with black screen. Holding shift only shows "grub loading.". Tried boot-repair to no avail
[19:36] <xananax> I've been a week on this
[19:36] <jrtappers> xananax, What disk
[19:36] <lalondong> Kruppt : Anything you said boss. OKey, i'll open gparted, hold on
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> BlueWolf, Basicaly you are trying to get to the folder that hold the command with the cd, so if the command is in another folder in downloads you would add that in the pathway
[19:36] <BlueWolf> wilee-nilee: Bash error?
[19:36] <xananax> jrtappers: trying to install buntu on ssd
[19:36] <jrtappers> No, install disk
[19:37] <brian_> jrtappers, I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I'm using a laptop to connect to an anonymous VPN service.
[19:37] <lalondong> Okey, i
[19:37] <xananax> jrtappers,  live usb 12.10 64bits
[19:37] <lalondong> Kruppt : i'm on gparted right now. what next?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> BlueWolf, that is all I can really with I doubt I can get you installed, good luck, ;D
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> *help
[19:37] <Kruppt> lalondong: fire up gparted and right click on sda5, choose resize, (to 27 gb) then from menu Edit->Apply all operations
[19:38] <quick-> hi my microphone isn't working .here is the screenshot from alsamixer for capture http://imagebin.org/250350 and from pavucontrol http://imagebin.org/250526
[19:38] <jrtappers> brian_, Do you want to use the VPN?
[19:38] <BlueWolf> wilee-nilee: Ok thanks
[19:38] <jrtappers> xananax, How did you make the USB?
[19:38] <lalondong> Kruppt : copy boss
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> BlueWolf, No problem I don't want to waste your time in the end.
[19:38] <BlueWolf> Anyone else have an idea of how to run a .run?
[19:38] <brian_> Yes. I want to use the VPN exclusively. I do not want any unencrypted connections to leave my machine.
[19:38] <brian_> jrtappers, Yes. I want to use the VPN exclusively. I do not want any unencrypted connections to leave my machine.
[19:38] <zetheroo> is it possible to have more than one Samba server running on the same workgroup on the same network?
[19:38] <xananax> jrtappers, I downloaded the iso then used the live usb creator on another ubuntu (also 12.10 x64) install
[19:39] <BlueWolf> wilee-nilee: Thank you for your time
[19:39] <brian_> jrtappers, The VPN works well. The problem I'm having is with iptables/ufw.
[19:39] <jrtappers> xananax, can you try it on another machine
[19:39] <jrtappers> brian_, try using your private IP addesss
[19:39] <Mister> someone has SqlMap for ubuntu 12.04
[19:40] <lalondong> Kruppt : do i have to send the screenshot again?
[19:40] <allnights> hey people
[19:40] <Kruppt> lalondong:did it complete already?
[19:40] <xananax> jrtappers, yes, do you think the USB is corrupt? because I tried two different USBs, one scandisk 7g and one verbatim 12g
[19:40] <allnights> I dont suppose anyone is familiar with installing drivers for mobile AMD graphics on Ubuntu 12.04?
[19:40] <lalondong> Kruppt : it says error again. damnn
[19:41] <jrtappers> It may be, try it
[19:41] <Mister> how to install sqlmap?
[19:41] <danes> anyone knows if there is any project based in web interface for document scanners?
[19:41] <Mister> how to install sqlmap on ubuntu 12.04?
[19:41] <jrtappers> xananax, could be the ISO
[19:41] <jrtappers> allnights, Go to thier website
[19:41] <jrtappers> allnights, download, unzip, run
[19:41] <allnights> whose website?
[19:41] <Kruppt> lalondong: same message?
[19:41] <allnights> oh yah think?
[19:42] <jrtappers> allnights, AMD's website
[19:42] <xananax> jrtappers, I am going to do the checksum on the iso, easier than installing, no?
[19:42] <nickles> What's the regular expression with sed to delete lines containing "(root) CMD ()" from a file? I've tried '/.*(root) CMD ().*/d' and '/(root) CMD ()/d'
[19:42] <lalondong> Kruppt : hold on, i'll save the message. It's okey to save it on the File System right?
[19:42] <allnights> is this the IT Crowd room?
[19:42] <jrtappers> xananax, yes thats easiest
[19:42] <lalondong> Kruppt ; i have no where else to save it.
[19:42] <BlueWolf> How do I get a .run file to install ( ~/Downloads/Savage2-2.1.0.8-linux-x64-installer.run ) but it does not seem to work?
[19:42] <jrtappers> allnights, do you know the model of your graphics
[19:42] <allnights> I already did that that is obvious to be honest...I asked if anyone had done it because I was interested to know why they refuse to install
[19:42] <allnights> yes I do
[19:43] <allnights> redon hd5470m
[19:43] <allnights> oops radeon
[19:43] <jrtappers> allnights, I have installed them, they work well, im using them atm
[19:43] <allnights> I am bsc applied computing
[19:43] <allnights> but just not been on linux for 15 years
[19:43] <allnights> JR can you run Cat?
[19:44] <brian__> jrtappers, What do you mean by private IP? The one my ISP provides or the local IP on my network? I assume the former but I just want to be sure.
[19:44] <jrtappers> allnights, cat works
[19:44] <Kruppt> lalondong: ok gparted is choking on the partitioning scheme created via that windows partitioner you originally used.
[19:44] <jrtappers> brian_, Private = local = 192.168.*.* usually
[19:44] <jrtappers> allnights, cat is a command command, it works
[19:44] <brian__> jrtappers, Okay thanks.
[19:44] <allnights> If I run Cat Control Centre is states the drivers not installed, I have done this and had to install Ubuntu three times and every time neither driver works
[19:44] <danes> I'm looking for a project like this for ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN90FeMCqJ8
[19:44] <xananax> jrtappers, md5sum matches
[19:45] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620325/
[19:45] <jrtappers> xananax, got a windows PC available?
[19:45] <allnights> Catalyst Control Centre, JR. Run it on here and it STATES no AMD DRIVERS
[19:45] <xananax> jrtappers, yes, I think I can borrow one from a friend, why?
[19:45] <jrtappers> allnights, did you install from the site?
[19:46] <allnights> I have done it every which way but loose mate, I just wondered if anyone else had this problem
[19:46] <jrtappers> xananax, You could try using YUMI to make the USB, have you got a CD drive
[19:46] <jrtappers> allnights, try checking in software sources, see which driver is in use
[19:47] <xananax> jrtappers, the target pc has no cd drive
[19:47] <jrtappers> xananax, External?
[19:47] <allnights> on third install of ubuntu I left it out and it downloaded the driver itself and I gave it a go again and still the same lol
[19:47] <xananax> danes are you looking for full control or just scanner? Because for example tightVNC gives you full control of a remote pc
[19:47] <PatrickDickey> Hi everyone. :)
[19:47] <allnights> JR been fifteen years, how do i do that?
[19:47] <danes> xananax: just scan
[19:47] <allnights> states nothing in details
[19:47] <jrtappers> allnights, What Version / WM you running?
[19:48] <xananax> jrtappers, I have an old one that I could dig out eventually...You think that might help? Is YUMI better than the ubuntu live cd creator?
[19:48] <allnights> WM?
[19:48] <jrtappers> xananax, Im trying to remove some options, to find the problem
[19:48] <jrtappers> allnights, Ok, il assume unity
[19:48] <allnights> dual boots with Wubi, with Win 7, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[19:49] <jrtappers> OK, open dash (Start Menu), type additional drivers
[19:49] <jrtappers> should see it, open it
[19:49] <lalondong> Kruppt : so i don't have any change to increase the the linux partition?
[19:49] <allnights> yes
[19:49] <allnights> Unity
[19:49]  * PatrickDickey points at wubi???
[19:49] <jrtappers> allnights, OK, open dash (Start Menu), type additional drivers
[19:50] <xananax> jrtappers, Ok, got your point. But: 1 - I used this iso elsewhere and md5sum checks / 2 - I tried two different USBs for the same result / so I don't think the install is corrupt or anything of the sort...Am I right to think that?
[19:50] <Kruppt> lalondong: The livecd your using is flaking out, you need to create a live systemrescuecd or something more reliable this one is buggy
[19:50] <xananax> jrtappers, the live install runs flawlessly so I don't think it is an ubuntu problem, it's really something to do with crappy UEFI and SSds etc
[19:50] <xananax> I guess
[19:50] <lalondong> Kruppt : but i can still access my linux right?
[19:51] <jrtappers> xananax, are there any UEFI options in the BIOS?
[19:51] <lalondong> Kruppt : where can i find that more reliable live-cd?
[19:51] <xananax> jrtappers, yes, but I disabled it and went to legacy boot
[19:51] <Kruppt> lalondong: yes there is nothing wrong with the filesystem on sda5
[19:51] <yank> webmail is showing localhost instead of senders IP address in header section, is there any way to track real ip from header or log?
[19:51] <jrtappers> xananax, Particularly "SAFE BOOT", "SIGNED BOOT" etc
[19:52] <artrei> exit
[19:52] <kirua> are there still people who use Borland C++ ? if so, pm me plz
[19:52] <artrei> swt, i thought this is a terminal
[19:52] <lalondong> Kruppt : so i have about 27 gb free unused neither linux or windows? -_-
[19:52] <PatrickDickey> lalondong: When you burned the Live CD, did you have the speed set on "Auto"? (The burn speed). If so, then reburn it, and set it on the lowest possible setting. After checking the md5sum of the iso, of course.
[19:53] <Kruppt> lalondong: fdisk -l
[19:53] <lalondong> PatrickDickey : i'm using live-cd from a flashdisk usb boss
[19:53] <xananax> jrtappers, I am gonna try to see what happens if I fiddle with those. I am waiting for boot-repair to finish (for the 100th time), then I'll try
[19:53] <pvl1> is dhcpd supposed to come up in netstat
[19:53] <jrtappers> xananax, this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[19:54] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620354/
[19:54] <brian_> jrtappers, I did the same with my local IP address. Sadly, nothing changed.
[19:54] <jrtappers> brian_, try opening whatismyip.com
[19:55] <allnights> oops
[19:55] <brian_> jrtappers, It identifies the address of my VPN.
[19:55] <jrtappers> brian_, then it seems to be working, does it begin 46
[19:55] <xananax> jrtappers, read it all, tried it all...I've been working every night for a week on this, so I've read every forum post, every wiki, etc...
[19:56] <allnights> not sure what happened there
[19:56] <jrtappers> xananax, In the BIOS is there "QuickBoot"?
[19:56]  * allnights scratches his head
[19:56] <Kruppt> lalondong: It did resize the partition, but there is no unallocated space left for a swap Partition!
[19:56] <brian_> Yep. The VPN works. My problem is that the VPN does not work when I disable outgoing connections by default.
[19:56] <xananax> jrtappers, yes, disabled tho
[19:56] <jrtappers> or IntelSmartResponceTechnology
[19:56] <samjd101> has anybody ever use 'preload'?
[19:56] <lalondong> Kruppt : ohh god, but on gparted , it says there's 2,6 gb left unallocated space
[19:57] <jrtappers> allnights, what does additional drivers say
[19:57] <jrtappers> samjd101, yes
[19:57] <brian_> jrtappers, I want to disable outgoing connections by default and only allow connections through the VPN so if the VPN becomes disconnected, I am not unwittingly using an unencrypted connection.
[19:57] <PatrickDickey> samjd101: I have in GRUB.
[19:57] <fabiomig> hi i cant add more luminosity to my netbook monitor
[19:57] <allnights> one sec
[19:57] <fabiomig> is too dark
[19:57] <Kruppt> lalondong: right click on the sda5 partition and resize it and leave some room for a swap partition
[19:57] <fabiomig> how to add more light?
[19:57] <NYG|DiscoverY> french chan ?
[19:57] <fabiomig> its at max right now
[19:57] <allnights> last time it said not activated and it says the same again
[19:57] <jrtappers> brian_, try disconnecting the VPN, see if you are still online
[19:57] <ludwig_> hey guys.. for some reson kleopatra has ceased to function on my recently upgraded 13.04 ubuntu machine
[19:57] <samjd101> is the daemon supposed to be running on startup?
[19:57] <bazhang> #ubuntu-fr NYG|DiscoverY
[19:58] <allnights> but is lit up green
[19:58] <jrtappers> allnights, which one is lit up
[19:58] <xananax> fabiomig, try xbacklight -dec 40
[19:58] <ludwig_> normally when i have troubles with kleopatra I reload my keys and such from my backup
[19:58] <samjd101> because 'service preload status' tells me that is not active
[19:58] <bazhang> ludwig_, 13.04 in #ubuntu+1
[19:58] <allnights> this one is the experimental driver but same thing happens with the other one too
[19:58] <PatrickDickey> samjd101: what daemon?
[19:58] <ludwig_> but this time, when i reloaded them, they are not working..
[19:58] <samjd101> the preload daemon
[19:58] <jrtappers> xananax, try selecting boot device, what is the prefix
[19:58] <Kruppt> lalondong: ok right click on the unallocated 2.6 space and create a swap partition then
[19:58] <y2j> how do search freenod for different channels
[19:58] <y2j> i
[19:59] <bazhang> y2j, with alis
[19:59] <lalondong> Kruppt : this is the picture boss  : http://postimage.org/image/usm8psion/
[19:59] <bazhang> !alis | y2j
[19:59] <jrtappers> allnights, open CCC administrative, what comes up?
[19:59] <PatrickDickey> samjd101: I think we're thinking of two different things. The Preload that I've used loads a service or module when the script is ran (it's not a daemon).
[19:59] <allnights> 15 years mate how do i do that? lol
[19:59] <jrtappers> xananax, Does the boot option start [BIOS]?
[19:59] <ludwig_> bazhang, im not sure if the issue was caused by 13.04, i was just giving as much information as possible
[20:00] <allnights> have a book on order for next week to refiliarise
[20:00] <xananax> jrtappers, dunnow, I am still waiting for boot-repair, but I don't understand what you are referring to; boot device in bios options, or boot in grub?
[20:00] <jrtappers> allnights, are you in unity or in terminal
[20:00] <allnights> unity
[20:00] <lalondong> Kruppt : create new swap on those free space?
[20:00] <allnights> shall I get a terminal up?
[20:00] <samjd101> im takling about this http://sourceforge.net/projects/preload/
[20:00] <Kruppt> lalondong: Ok looks good so far , now right click on that 2.60 unallocated space and create a swap partition
[20:00] <allnights> done
[20:01] <jrtappers> xananax, when you select the boot device (USB/HDD) it should say [BIOS] at the start, if not it thinks its UEFI
[20:01] <jrtappers> allnights, run 'sudo amdcccle'
[20:01] <lalondong> Kruppt : then now just click on the Edit menu -> Apply .... ?
[20:02] <jrtappers> allnights, Does it run? Does it work?
[20:02] <allnights> problem inititalizing Cat Control Centre No AMD Graphics driver installed LMAO
[20:02] <Kruppt> lalondong:yes, after you have chose swap
[20:02] <fabiomig> how to add more light to my monitor? its says its at maximum but appears to be in min
[20:02] <fabiomig> i cant change
[20:03] <jrtappers> allnights, ok, run 'ls ~/Downloads | grep sh'
[20:04] <lalondong> Kruppt : i've chose linux-swap and it's the only choice that has swap 'word' on it
[20:04] <xananax> jrtappers, interesting, no, I don't think it is showing [BIOS], so you might have found something. Can't wait for boot-repair to finish so I can try
[20:04] <allnights> nothing happened lol
[20:05] <xananax> fabiomig, please open a terminal and try typing: xbacklight -dec 40
[20:05] <Kruppt> lalondong:yes that what you want ....choose linux-swap
[20:05] <xananax> fabiomig, if it works, tell me so I can guide you further
[20:05] <jrtappers> allnights, did you dl the drivers from thier website?
[20:05] <xananax> fabiomig, to restore brightness, type xcklight -inc 40
[20:06] <allnights> I did do lasttime yes
[20:06] <xananax> *xbacklight I meant
[20:06] <contrapunctus> Hey folks, for some reason when I type something in Firefox or Thunderbird EVERY WORD gets a red spelling error underline. Any ideas on how to fix this? =(
[20:06] <allnights> this time it came up when additional drivers was run
[20:06] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620386/
[20:06] <contrapunctus> (And they're all spelled right. Even a simple word like 'the'.)
[20:06] <jrtappers> Ok, we are going to start from scratch, dl the drivers
[20:06] <PatrickDickey> Does anyone know how to get fsck to check a large partition (around 500GB) and fix it, when the computer has 2GB of RAM available? I'm getting this error when I try it http://sprunge.us/eTAV?lang=bash
[20:06] <lalondong> Kruppt : its error again
[20:06] <xananax> contrapunctus, you probably have a corrupt dictionnary or something
[20:06] <jrtappers> allnights, go to the AMD website and download the drivers
[20:06] <fabiomig> xananax: Error No outputs have backlight property
[20:07] <allnights> I may not be familiar with linux but I did realise this problem was out of the ordinary lol
[20:07] <contrapunctus> xananax, it works fine in xchat though. Any ideas how I may fix it?
[20:07] <Kruppt> lalondong: fdisk -l  in terminal again please
[20:07] <jrtappers> allnights, what card is it?
[20:07] <xananax> contrapunctus, the firefox dictionary is managed by firefox, whereas the xchat one (afaik) is managed by ubuntu
[20:07] <PatrickDickey> fabiomig: Are you on a desktop or a laptop (notebook, netbook, etc)?
[20:07] <allnights> one sec
[20:08] <lalondong> Kruppt :http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620392/
[20:08] <xananax> contrapunctus, I meant try to reinstall the dictionary in firefox
[20:08] <fabiomig> PatrickDickey: netbook
[20:08] <contrapunctus> xananax, feh, why not a system wide common dictionary =( Cool, I'll try, thanks ^^
[20:08] <lalondong> Kruppt : and this is the gparted view after i apply those settings : http://postimage.org/image/553deedb3/
[20:08] <PatrickDickey> fabiomig: Which netbook is it? There might be some specific help for that in the community docs.
[20:09] <fabiomig> PatrickDickey: Asus eeepc x101ch
[20:09] <allnights> right first off which one? Beta or Post Release?
[20:09] <xananax> fabiomig, if you're comfortable with command line stuff, you might want to try the instructions at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backlight
[20:09] <allnights> oh and I assume you have the same but mine is 64 bit
[20:09] <jrtappers> Post release, then unzip it
[20:10] <jrtappers> then run the .sh file from the terminal
[20:10] <jrtappers> back soon
[20:10] <lalondong> Kruppt : do i need to reboot again?
[20:11] <Guest21606> Anyone know why hdmi out on my laptop works out of the box w/ latest Ubuntu, but not w/ Xubuntu? And how I might fix that
[20:11] <intrader> I have an overheating problem in Ubuntu 12.04 on Lenovo t61p making the laptop unusable at full screen - temp2 in psensors goes beyond 100C and machine shuts down. I have tried various  drivers. Currently lpspci reports  VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84M [Quadro FX 570M] (rev a1)
[20:11] <Kruppt> lalondong: from root term run -> fdisk /dev/sda AND DO Nothing till I say
[20:11] <allnights> ok mate
[20:11] <lalondong> Kruppt : Aye sir...
[20:12] <pvl1> how can i clear a file
[20:12] <PatrickDickey> fabiomig: you might find some useful information here (if you haven't checked) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[20:13] <Kruppt> lalondong:You at a fdisk prompt yet?
[20:13] <lalondong> Kruppt ; Command (m for help): like this?
[20:13] <PatrickDickey> Guest21606: http://askubuntu.com/questions/234377/activate-hdmi-port-xubuntu-12-04 might help you.
[20:13] <zocky> is the only way to change my date display settings to slovenian really to install dozens of MBs of language packs for all the software I have installed, even though I won't be using any of them?
[20:14] <jelly-home> intrader: maybe you need to open the thing up and clean the fans?
[20:14] <Kruppt> lalondong:yes..be with you in a minute do nothing in that term
[20:15] <lalondong> Kruppt : okey, what now bos?
[20:16] <Kruppt> lalondong: type a lone lower case x at this prompt then hit the enter key and let me know when your done
[20:17] <lalondong> Kruppt : what do i have to type?
[20:17] <intrader> jelly-home, No, I have not - The fan1 sensot shows 3800 RPM. But it is really noiseless
[20:18] <Kruppt> lalondong: that's a -> x <- then hit the enter key ...got it?
[20:19] <Kruppt> lalondong: let me know where your at we don't want to make any mistakes in this
[20:19] <lalondong> Kruppt : it says Expert command (m for help):
[20:20] <contrapunctus> xananax - I right clicked on a text field > languages...revelations. It was set to Spanish (Cuba) LOL
[20:20] <lalondong> Kruppt : okey boss, i'm ready, i'll follow you.......
[20:20] <Kruppt> lalondong:Great! now type a single -> f <-  then hit the enter key and get back to me
[20:20] <intrader> jelly-home, I'll google -'clean the fans' and I will see.
[20:20] <contrapunctus> xananax - It's fixed now. Thanks a lot man ^^
[20:20] <xananax> contrapunctus, yes, that happens :) on that note, remember that the chrome dictionaries ARE managed by ubuntu, so don't try to install a new one through chrome
[20:21] <lalondong> Kruppt : copy that sir
[20:21] <contrapunctus> xananax, thanks for the info, and no self respecting FOSS user uses Chrome xD
[20:22] <deung> list
[20:22] <kenshiro> Hi, I would like to know what's the best tablet to make a full ubuntu desktop when connected to an hdmi external monitor, and usb keyboard, mouse and external hard disk.
[20:22] <Kruppt> lalondong:did you type "f" then hit enter key yet?
[20:22] <lalondong> Kruppt : boss, it says Expert command (m for help): f <below that> Done.
[20:23] <lalondong> Kruppt : boss, it says Expert command (m for help): f <below that> Done.
[20:23] <kenshiro> it's important it works with external monitor too, as it's expected with ubuntu phones when docked
[20:24] <Kruppt> lalondong: what was the output when you finished entering the f command...need to be sure you did the right thing before we finish up
[20:25] <bcurtiswx_> hmm no unity on boot in raring, after most recent update
[20:25] <deung> CLT2013!!! Very nice
[20:25] <bcurtiswx_> says another window manager is running when i try from command line
[20:25] <bazhang> !raring | bcurtiswx_
[20:25] <jayxmiller> I have a question about installing ubuntu 12.10 64-bit with windows 8
[20:25] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620444/
[20:26] <jayxmiller> can anyone help me?
[20:26] <tozen> jayxmiller: whats wrong?
[20:27] <jayxmiller> I try to install ubuntu 12.10 next to windows 8 and it says I dont have enough room for install even though I have a 320 gb free
[20:27] <tozen> jayxmiller: did u trying to install trough wubi?
[20:28] <jayxmiller> I didnt think you can install ubuntu through wubi becasue of windows 8 UEFI
[20:28] <lalondong> Kruppt : so how is it?
[20:28] <kenshiro> Hi, I would to know if there is some recommended tablet to use with Ubuntu as desktop computer too (attached to external tv, mouse, keyboard and hard disk)
[20:29] <g105b> Is it possible to put the 12.10 and 13.04 installer onto the same bootable USB stick?
[20:29] <Kruppt> lalondong: ok you first ran fdisk /dev/sda then from first prompt you typed x then enter, then from the expert prompt you typed f, then enter nothing less nothing more ?
[20:29] <tozen> jayxmiller: better way is to use live cd with gparted
[20:30] <holstein> g105b: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ is what i used.. use #ubuntu+1 for 13.04
[20:30] <brian_petersen> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server edition and I notice that two packages are being held back, linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal and linux-image-generic-lts-quantal. I did not explicilty set this packages to be held back and I am wondering what caused them to be held back automatically. Any insight would be appreciated!
[20:30] <tozen> jayxmiller: so u can prepare you hd for installation
[20:30] <jayxmiller> I just dont have cds I have a thumb drive
[20:30] <Kruppt> lalondong:when your sure that is so type a -> w <- then hit enter key and all should be done
[20:30] <holstein> brian_petersen: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:31] <g105b> holstein: multiboot is only for Windows??
[20:31] <Kruppt> lalondong:you there?
[20:32] <jayxmiller> It used to work with a thumb drive before
[20:32] <lalondong> Kruppt : i remember now that i typed 'ctrl+c' when i'm trying to copy the text but it wont workt. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620455/
[20:32] <lalondong> Kruppt : do i have to start it from begining again?
[20:32] <jrtappers> allnights, How is it going?
[20:33] <holstein> g105b: i used it in linux.. ubuntu.. it=yumi.
[20:33] <suhaib> clear
[20:33] <jrtappers> xananax, how it it going?
[20:33] <g105b> holstein: I can only find .exe download
[20:33] <tozen> jayxmiller: before installing choose <Something else>
[20:33] <Kruppt> lalondong: yes start over from the top, type q then enter and start from the top no room for errors here
[20:33] <tozen> jayxmiller: so then u will be able to split you hd
[20:34] <xananax> jrtappers, still installing stuff boot-repair needs. Connection is slow but it just finished. Now it's doing its alleged magic
[20:34] <lalondong> Kruppt : where do i have to start? from fdisk /dev/sda?
[20:34] <holstein> g105b: try http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/easily-create-a-multiboot-usb-stick , i searched "ubuntu create multiboot usb stick"
[20:34] <jrtappers> xananax, what happened when you tried to boot the USB?
[20:34] <lalondong> Kruppt : i've typed q . and it's showing the root again. what i have to type now?
[20:34] <g105b> holstein: tried that but post is outdated
[20:35] <ubulove> Hi all !
[20:35] <Kruppt> lalondong: fdisk /dev/sda
[20:35] <lalondong> Kruppt : done, next?
[20:35] <allnights_> oops
[20:36] <xananax> jrtappers, the usb boots. It's after install that ubuntu doesn't boot. I ran boot-repair from the usb and came here to ask for help. It's finishing its stuff, then I am going to try to explore the options you opened previously
[20:37] <Kruppt> lalondong: are you back at the bash prompt?
[20:37] <jrtappers> allnights_, are you the same person as allnights?
[20:37] <allnights_> yes
[20:37] <allnights_> lol
[20:37] <jrtappers> xananax, Ok
[20:37] <allnights_> ubuntu crashed
[20:37] <jrtappers> ok, what happened
[20:37] <lalondong> Kruppt : i am in a pbash promt again, do i have to screenshot this? tell me, i don't want to make mistakes again.. type -> x <- right?
[20:37] <allnights_> i downloaded drivers
[20:37] <allnights_> oh ok now thats weird
[20:38] <holstein> lalondong: i would just let the installer partition automatically.. or research what partitions you need and make them
[20:38] <jrtappers> what?
[20:38] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620470/
[20:38] <allnights_> well in uzipped it and now its gone so now unzipped again lol
[20:38] <ubulove> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop as dual boot but it gets stuck on both usb/cd. If I'm trying to install XP (for example what I've tried) it doesn't stuck. What's wrong?
[20:39] <jrtappers> allnights_, run 'ls ~/Dowloads |  grep "sh"'
[20:39] <john_rambo>  Cant play video http://pastebin.com/zW6pdAuX
[20:39] <Kruppt> lalondong: that's "fdisk /dev/sda" then there will be a fdisk prompt, type a x, then the enter key, then you will be at the expert fdisk prompt , type f, then enter, then type w, enter and get back to me
[20:39] <holstein> ubulove: i would try installing *without* installing upgrades.. in fact, just install without going to the live CD and skip the connect to internet step
[20:39] <quick-> hi my microphone isn't working .here is the screenshot from alsamixer for capture http://imagebin.org/250350 and from pavucontrol http://imagebin.org/250526
[20:39] <holstein> !audio | quick-
[20:40] <mkquist> lalondong: which version o/s are you using?
[20:40] <holstein> quick-: try all the settings available in alsamixer.. the labels can be incorrect
[20:40] <jrtappers> allnights_, run 'ls ~/Dowloads |  grep "sh"'
[20:40] <lalondong> Kruppt : i've screenshot it from the top, do i made it right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620477/
[20:41] <intrader> jelly-home, Ouch - the access to the fan is complicated and requires for me to obtain nylon screw set
[20:41] <allnights_> oops froze up
[20:41] <lalondong> mkquist : ubuntu?
[20:41] <jrtappers> allnights_, That will check for the extracted driver
[20:41] <holstein> lalondong: "right" depends on what you want/need
[20:41] <allnights_> umm I have put them in Catalyst folder do i need to cd to it?
[20:41] <jrtappers> yes
[20:41] <holstein> lalondong: i would recover any unsaved data, test that disk for errors, and wipe it and reinstall
[20:42] <Kruppt> lalondong: run fdisk -l from root terminal and let me see the output
[20:42] <jrtappers> allnights_, in that case run this 'ls | grep "sh"
[20:42] <xananax> jrtappers, ok, rebooted, tried both EFI mode and legacy mode, to no avail. Also, even in legacy mode, there is no [bios] appearing anywhere
[20:42] <allnights_> so... ls ~/Catalyst | grep sh        ??
[20:42] <jrtappers> allnights_, yh
[20:43] <allnights_> done and nothing
[20:43] <jrtappers> xananax, do you get to grub
[20:43] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620487/
[20:43] <xananax> jrtappers, no
[20:43] <jrtappers> allnights_, where is the Catalyst folder
[20:43] <allnights_> Home
[20:43] <lalondong> holstein : i have to re install it?
[20:43] <allnights_> Home Folder
[20:43] <xananax> jrtappers, if I keep "shift" pressed, I get to see "grub loading." but it stays stuck there
[20:44] <jrtappers> allnights_, run ls in the Catalyst folder
[20:45] <allnights_> amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[20:45] <allnights_> amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.zip
[20:45] <jrtappers> ok, is the run green?
[20:45] <jrtappers> xananax, have a look at this http://orkultus.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/linux-mint-install-on-my-acer-aspire-v3-771g-6851/
[20:45] <allnights_> no white and the zip red
[20:46] <jrtappers> ok run chmod+x amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[20:46] <jrtappers> * chmod +x
[20:46] <lalondong> Kruppt : how is that?
[20:46] <Kruppt> lalondong: let me look at this a moment, I think all is good but sda6 needs to be changed to swap, we can do that easily with fdisk..show you in a minute
[20:47] <lalondong> Kruppt : take your time boss. i'll be right here.
[20:47] <jrtappers> allnights_, does that command run?
[20:47] <qasim2k3> hi
[20:48] <allnights_> lol chmod+x command not found
[20:48] <PatrickDickey> Hi qasim2k3.
[20:48] <jrtappers> allnights_, chmod +x
[20:48] <xananax> jrtappers, checking this out. I'll try to see what steps can apply to me. Also going to try a few other things. Be back in a few hours I guess. Thanks!
[20:48] <allnights_> lol ahh
[20:48] <jrtappers> allnights_, I said that in a * just below it
[20:48] <jrtappers> xananax, thats ok, sorry I couldn't help more
[20:48] <jrtappers> allnights_, green now?
[20:48] <qasim2k3> can anyone tell me how to create a wifi hotspot on laptop?
[20:49] <jrtappers> allnights_, does that run, and is the run now green in ls?
[20:49] <allnights_> me idiot one sec lol
[20:49] <Kruppt> lalondong: we need to change /dev/sda6 partition type, we can use fdisk to do this ..are you ready for the commands to do so?
[20:50] <lalondong> Kruppt : anything you say boss, just tell me the details of what i have to do and i'll follow you.
[20:50] <eodnhoj> Wow. I haven't been on IRC in over 15 years.
[20:50] <PatrickDickey> qasim2k3: http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/ might get you going. I haven't tried this, so no guarantees.
[20:51] <jrtappers> allnights_, Is anything happening?
[20:52] <qasim2k3> hmm, ok..thanks PatrickDickey
[20:52] <allnights_> yes green
[20:52] <allnights_> lol sorry bloody typos
[20:52] <jrtappers> now run sudo ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[20:53] <Kruppt> lalondong: fdisk /dev/sda  .......again from root terminal then get back for next step
[20:54] <ubiquity-monkey-> they should fire the guy in charge of the ubuntu installer
[20:54] <ubiquity-monkey-> failure after failure with that buggy mess. and 12.04 is supposed to be the "stable" version
[20:54] <bazhang> ubiquity-monkey-, wrong channel
[20:54] <lalondong> Kruppt : done boss, what's next?
[20:54] <lalondong> Kruppt : i'm on the bass promt right now.
[20:54] <ubiquity-monkey-> why does the partitioner fail?
[20:55] <bazhang> ubiquity-monkey-, stop it
[20:55] <allnights_> right doing it, a bit faster now I remembered ctrl c for copying in irc lol
[20:55] <ubiquity-monkey-> and why does it just sit there after telling me it has failed?
[20:55] <Kruppt> lalondong: type t then enter get back to me for next step
[20:55] <ubiquity-monkey-> bazhang: are you going to tell me why?
[20:55] <high-rez> I'm having problems with the nvidia propreitary drivers and SLI.  Without SLI GL applications work fine, but with it, they seem to break.  E.g. when I run glxgears it'll run a for a few seconds - then completely freeze.
[20:55] <lalondong> Kruppt : done, what's next?
[20:56] <allnights_> uncompressing still
[20:56] <Kruppt> lalondong: type 6
[20:56] <lalondong> Kruppt : done boss. what next?
[20:57] <allnights_> takes a long time decompressing on this I noticed which is a surprise lol
[20:57] <Kruppt> lalondang: type 82 enter
[20:58] <Kruppt> lalondong: then type w enter
[20:58] <deltree_> I'm seeing "not enough disk space" a lot, so I ran df -Th according to google.  It says /dev/mapper/xubuntu-root is at 100% used
[20:59] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620538/
[20:59] <allnights_> last time I installed driver ubuntu failed to boot up lol, gave me a series of choices after not recognising driver but none worked lol
[20:59] <lalondong> Kruppt : i did it right?
[21:00] <Kruppt> lalondong: looks ok so far , now run fdisk -l in root terminal and post the output please
[21:01] <Sven_vB> does each Xorg $DISPLAY have its own clipboard and selection buffers?
[21:01] <deltree_> I can't figure out why root is at 100% use, but how do I fix it?
[21:01] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620543/
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_: 100% use? What does that mean?
[21:02] <deltree_> it says my root size is only 3.7G and that 3.6G is used
[21:02] <deltree_> df -Th is how I got the list
[21:02] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree: in that case that just means the file system.
[21:02] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_:^
[21:02] <Kruppt> lalondong: looks good, now run -> mkswap /dev/sda6 <- and that should be it
[21:03] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_: What do you have stored in there?
[21:03] <deltree_> so what do I do to fix it since I keep getting out of disk space errors
[21:03] <lalondong> Kruppt : on terminal root right?
[21:03] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_: What are you trying to do? (I just got here)
[21:03] <deltree_> it's a default ubuntu-sever install.  I've added xubuntu-desktop, java, and virtualbox guestadditions
[21:03] <deltree_> I'm running a minecraft server
[21:04] <Kruppt> lalondong: yeak type mkswap /dev/sda6, make sure you type sda6 and not another partition number!!
[21:04] <hrist> why is ubuntu doing this stupid thing with MIR?
[21:04] <hrist> instead of contributing to wayland
[21:05] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620564/ how was that boss?
[21:05] <john_rambo> Cant play video  http://pastebin.com/zW6pdAuX
[21:05] <jrtappers> allnights, My network crashed, is it working?
[21:05] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_: I'll never understand how you shoved Ubuntu Server onto such a tight space... what !version are you using?
[21:05] <PatrickDickey> hrist, you'll probably get a better answer for that in #ubuntu+1 or in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:05] <hrist> whats #ubuntu+1?
[21:05] <SonikkuAmerica> hrist: Discussion about the next release (in this case, Raring)
[21:05] <PatrickDickey> It's the IRC channel for the development version of Ubuntu (in this case 13.04)
[21:06] <hrist> mhm
[21:06] <SonikkuAmerica> 2 out of 2 ain't bad
[21:06] <deltree_> SonikkuAmerica: it's an 8 gig vdi
[21:06] <deltree_> it's got plenty of space, but it's CLAIMING I'm out of space
[21:07] <Kruppt> lalondong: all is good, now you need to mount sda5 and edit your /etc/fstab file to be sure that the swap uuid is that uuid you just posted.
[21:07] <PatrickDickey> deltree_: Did you install it as a LVM by chance? And do you have the lvm tools installed?
[21:07] <lalondong> Kruppt : how to do that?
[21:07] <deltree_> PatrickDickey, I think I might have done that, it's the default selection on install
[21:08] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_: How much space did Ubuntu Server say you had in the VBox HDD when you installed it?
[21:08] <Kruppt> lalondong: mkdir /mnt/sda5 then type mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5 and get back to me with what text editor you have
[21:09] <holstein> lalondong: it generally takes me around 20 minutes to reinstall and configure.. i think that might be not only easier, but a nice way to be sure the disk is "good" and setup properly
[21:09] <deltree_> SonikkuAmerica 8.3G
[21:09] <holstein> lalondong: but, you are in capable hands with Kruppt .. and good luck!
[21:09] <lalondong> Kruppt : type mkdir /mnt/sda5 then press enter. Then type mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5 then press enter?
[21:10] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_: If you have LVM you may wish to check this page out: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/40702/how-to-manage-and-use-lvm-logical-volume-management-in-ubuntu/
[21:10] <lalondong> holstein : this is my first time trying to pick a fight with ubuntu and i was wrong -__-, thanks you're all are expert on this.
[21:10] <philotue> hi there
[21:10] <wN> lvm++
[21:10] <ubuntu-studio_> hi does any on know where i can get GNU source code ?
[21:11] <allnights> jrstrappers
[21:11] <PatrickDickey> Hi philotue.
[21:11] <jrtappers> allnights, Is it working?
[21:11] <allnights> froze again reboot whar was that line again?
[21:11] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: for which application?
[21:11] <lalondong> Kruppt : type mkdir /mnt/sda5 then press enter right?
[21:11] <ubuntu-studio_> GNU
[21:11] <allnights> well says nothing about AMD in details
[21:11] <Adonis> ~
[21:11] <Kruppt> lalondong: yes
[21:12] <allnights> whats the command libe for checking?
[21:12] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: for which application? GNU is a philosophy (and a store of applications that meet it's requirements)
[21:12] <jrtappers> sudo ./<the .run>
[21:12] <Kajover> might be a very exotic question. but is it normal that i see a blinking underscore for 2seconds on each boot?
[21:12] <ubuntu-studio_> "GNU" side of GNU/Linux   (not the kernel)
[21:12] <jrtappers> replace <the run> with the .runs name
[21:12] <allnights> amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run  fglrx-install.TwaNdY
[21:13] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/source_repositories.html
[21:13] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620583/
[21:13] <philotue> does anyone know if it is possible to mirror the screen on a vertical axis, so that the picture has the right orientation when watched in a mirror?
[21:13] <PatrickDickey> That might get you started ubuntu-studio_.
[21:13] <jrtappers> allnights,  amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[21:13] <allnights> done it
[21:13] <lalondong> Kruppt : it says the file are exists.
[21:13] <nerder> hello everybody
[21:13] <Opikat> When I try to wipe a 640GB HDD using wipe /dev/sda the ETA states that it will take 25 weeks to complete. Sounds a bit silly. Does anyone here have some experience using wipe=
[21:13] <jrtappers> allnights, whats happening
[21:13] <Kruppt> lalondong: that's good now type mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5 enter
[21:13] <ubuntu-studio_> PatrickDickey, thank u XD
[21:13] <nerder> i have some problem with blueman
[21:13] <jrtappers> Opikat, use dd
[21:14] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_:  No problem. If that doesn't work, https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=GNU%20Source%20code&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=a720ab43687f831b&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43828540,d.aWM&biw=1375&bih=806 is where I found it.
[21:14] <Opikat> jrtappers, dd is not secure, now is it?
[21:14] <lalondong> Kruppt : nothings happen after that . http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620586/
[21:14] <nerder> i dnt know why if i try to search a device all good, if i try to add no prob
[21:14] <jrtappers> Opikat, Unless its aliens, it is
[21:14] <mkquist> lalondong: sudo?
[21:14] <nerder> if i try to paring all done, but when i click on setup
[21:15] <ubuntu-studio_> PatrickDickey, "k" thank you
[21:15] <lalondong> mkquist : sudo ?
[21:15] <Adonis> Hello All
[21:15] <PatrickDickey> Opikat: dban.sourceforge.net You'll have to burn it to a cd. But it'll wipe it (along with any other hard drive in the computer).
[21:15] <nerder> but the device is not connected
[21:15] <deltree_> SonikkuAmerica it says my PV size is 7.76GiB
[21:15] <Kruppt> lalondong: yes it did .. now we can edit /etc/fstab....what text editor do you have installed we can use?
[21:15] <mkquist> lalondong: nevermind
[21:16] <Opikat> jrtappers, so just dd if/dev/urandom?
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_: Approx. 7.5 GB
[21:16] <nerder> I have some problem with blue man, i can't connect my Samsung Galaxy SII, i dnt know why
[21:16] <lalondong> Kruppt : i have only Text Editor here.
[21:16] <nerder> the connection looks like unstable
[21:16] <lalondong> Kruppt : is that okey, what next?
[21:16] <jrtappers> Opikat, http://www.howtogeek.com/115573/htg-explains-why-you-only-have-to-wipe-a-disk-once-to-erase-it/
[21:16] <deltree_> so do I lvextend /dev/mapper/xubuntu-root?
[21:17] <Opikat> PatrickDickey, do you have experience using dban? Any stats on how long it will take to erase a 640GB HDD (attached to a SATA port)?
[21:18] <Kruppt> lalondong: what gui text editor can we use? leafpad, medit, nedit, mousepad, gedit, kedit..what you got?
[21:18] <jrtappers> Opikat, random takes a long time
[21:18] <PatrickDickey> Opikat: I use it to wipe drives occasionally. I'd say it'll take a few hours depending on your processor and the read/write speed. You'll want to read their documentation for options though.
[21:18] <Opikat> jrtappers, thx for the link, I appreciate it :-)
[21:19] <lalondong> Kruppt : yes i have gedit, the title says its Text Editor. sorry. what now?
[21:19] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_: Because you have XFCE, I would start it if it's not up already and install gparted.
[21:19] <Opikat> PatrickDickey, I'll download dban.
[21:19] <jrtappers> Opikat, Thats ok, and opening hard drives it difficult without destroying the data
[21:19] <Kruppt> lalondong: in root terminal type gedit /etc/fstab enter
[21:20] <lalondong> Kruppt : okey, what now?
[21:20] <deltree_> SonikkuAmerica The problem is there's no free-space according to Ubuntu, so I can't even run most programs
[21:20] <Opikat> jrtappers, well the computer it will be used fro will go to a friend, so it doesn't have to be top secure...
[21:20] <deltree_> let alone install one
[21:20] <Opikat> fro -> for
[21:20] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_: How did I forget that? :|
[21:21] <jrtappers> Opikat, either DBAN or dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[21:21] <Opikat> jrtappers, /dev/zero is better than /dev/urandom?
[21:21] <Kruppt> lalondong: show me the contents of the fstab file and I show you
[21:21] <jrtappers> Opikat, its faster but only uses 0's
[21:21] <deltree_> I tried to extend /dev/mapper/xubuntu-root and it says it only has 8 extents available, what does that mean?
[21:22] <deltree_> lvextend --help
[21:22] <deltree_> oops, wrong window
[21:22] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620608/
[21:22] <Opikat> jrtappers, so I see, thx for the hint, I'll dd it instead
[21:22] <Ubulindy> hey guys I just found a really stupid fix for alot of ppl havein issues with ubuntu... kms and acer monitors on a old Dell computer... Dell Dimension, so stupid I had to come in and say
[21:22] <jrtappers> Opikat, data recovery after a single wipe is theoretical
[21:23] <KI4RO> .
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_: Can it not continue?
[21:23] <Ubulindy> on the front on the Acer there are menu options, scan thru them hit "reset" and apply, then go into display settings, and your new resolution will be there
[21:23] <Kruppt> lalondong: LOL! close that file out and type gedit /mnt/sda5/etc/fstab in root that is the fstab for the live system not the one we need
[21:23] <deltree_> it's claiming insufficient free space
[21:24] <deltree_> let me resize the vdi
[21:24] <SonikkuAmerica> deltree_: That might help...
[21:24] <lalondong> Kruppt : ahh yeah, we're on live-cd right now anyway. hold on
[21:25] <PatrickDickey> Opikat: I'll say that the only reason I use DBAN, is because it completely removes the partition table as well. So it's like a bare drive (well maybe a drive with all 1's or all 0's on it). Not so much for the "security" of the wipe.
[21:25] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620621/
[21:26] <jrtappers> PatrickDickey, But data recovery from even a single pass is extreamly difficult
[21:26] <Opikat> PatrickDickey, I have used a Seagate tool to wipe the part. table, so that should be gone.
[21:26] <jrtappers> Opikat, dd will remove everything, the partition table is at the front of the drive, so it will go first
[21:26] <PatrickDickey> jrtappers: I agree. I should clarify that I only use it when I reinstall or install new operating systems.
[21:26] <deltree_> lol, I don't think it matters, but I can't upgrade the hard drive, since I kept getting this error this box I set up with fixed size
[21:27] <Opikat> PatrickDickey, jrtappers, currently executing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[21:27] <Kruppt> lalondong: UUID=0c743f40-f13d-41a3-bf4c-ad0d2a8d6b85  none            swap    sw              0       0
[21:27] <PatrickDickey> deltree_: Do you have a lot of free space on the physical drive?
[21:27] <jrtappers> Opikat, on the device you are using for xchat?
[21:27] <deltree_> PatrickDickey yes
[21:27] <lalondong> Kruppt : what is that?
[21:27] <Opikat> jrtappers, I'm running the chat from a LiveCD, don't worry
[21:28] <jrtappers> k
[21:28] <Kruppt> lalondong: change that line in your fstab file to look like what I just posted...
[21:28] <PatrickDickey> deltree_: I'd create a new vdi with more space, add it to the virtual machine (along with the current one), boot into a Live CD iso on the virtual machine, and use dd to copy everything to the new vdi. Then remove the small one, and it should work for you.
[21:29] <ubuntu-studio_> what happens on start up if i have a kernel(clean compiled source not a distro) and grub is set to boot it will it load like terminal ?
[21:29] <Opikat> jrtappers, the victim or blessed disk, depending how you look at it ;-) contained Windows 7, along with a recovery partition.
[21:29] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: yes.
[21:29] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: What's your ultimate goal, if I may ask?
[21:30] <Kajover> might be a very exotic question. but is it normal that i see a blinking underscore for 2seconds on each boot?
[21:30] <lalondong> Kruppt : so all i need to do is that to change the line under the : # swap was on /dev/sda8 during installation ?
[21:30] <deltree_> PatrickDickey tbh: I can create a whole new VM, the files for MC are on the main HD, but I don't want this to happen again
[21:30] <lalondong> Kruppt : with what you've just send me before?
[21:30] <ptl> hi... I just upgraded to Ubuntu 13.04 development, and Unity is not showing my background wallpapers, even if I change then in preferences. It's showing a black screen. anyone know how to solve this?
[21:31] <deltree_> I suspect I have plenty of HD space, but there's something else going on, so I want to fix it
[21:31] <deltree_> or at least verify it
[21:32] <baudtrap_> ptl: I also had issues upgrading to 13.04. Found it easier to download the iso and install afresh.
[21:32] <Kruppt> lalondoug: you just need to change the UUID=55f70db0-fa62-48f2-be23-9aeb0bb328ad , the very last line in file
[21:32] <ubuntu-studio_> PatrickDickey, do u know how i would make it auto execute a program i have built
[21:32] <PatrickDickey> deltree_: You could download the gparted Live ISO, and use that to check it. It'll have the lvm tools installed, so it should be able to see if you're really out of space or not.
[21:32] <ubuntu-studio_> PatrickDickey, its a gui
[21:32] <ptl> baudtrap_: :S
[21:33] <lalondong> Kruppt : okey, done, so i just need to save this right?
[21:33] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: I'd imagine you'll need something like X or wayland to make it execute a GUI. Unless your GUI uses ncurses or something like that.
[21:34] <jdukiet> hello, i am running 12.04 LTS and was wondering if i could assign a shortcut for the wheel button on my mouse to the virtual window button or I'm sorry, the workspace switcher button on the launcher?
[21:34] <allnights> well that was crazy
[21:34] <allnights> kept freezing repeatedly so i left it
[21:34] <jrtappers> allnights, did the installer run?
[21:34] <lalondong> Kruppt : what next?
[21:34] <ubuntu-studio_> PatrickDickey, whats X,  wayland, nurses
[21:35] <Kruppt> lalondoug: yes save and you should be good to go
[21:35] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: If you want a pure kernel though, I'd suggest looking into Linux From Scratch. But I'll warn you, you're the package management for it. So, you have to figure out how to resolve any dependencies for whatever you're putting on.
[21:35] <allnights> dialogue box came up saying another driver needs to be uninstalled lol
[21:35] <allnights> yes
[21:35] <nerder> Hello everybody i have some problem with my bluetooth device
[21:35] <nerder> I just want to connect my Andorid phone with my pc and share some file
[21:35] <PatrickDickey> X and wayland are display servers (You're using X right now, behind the scenes). ncurses does something similar, but in a text mode.
[21:35] <lalondong> Kruppt : i saved them, now what?
[21:35] <allnights> dialogue box said fglrx thing needed to be unsinstalled before running
[21:36] <nerder> the error that the system provide to me : "Method "CreateBluetoothSession" with signature "vvs" on interface "org.openobex.Manager" doesn't exist
[21:36] <ubuntu-studio_> PatrickDickey, its built in C in GNU gcc
[21:36] <Opikat> ubuntu-studio_, if you want a custom setup with the convenience and speed of using precompiled packages, take a look at Arch-Linux
[21:36] <mkquist> lalondong: reboot
[21:36] <hikari_> hello
[21:37] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System (for what X is), and along with what Opikat said, you can look at Slackware also.
[21:37] <lalondong> mkquist : and go into my linux or still back to this live-cd ?
[21:37] <Opikat> hikari, hi, please state your question
[21:37] <Kruppt> lalondong: your done, unless you have resume stanza in grub, you need to change that to the present UUID of swap partition too..
[21:37] <allnights> lol can I take it your stumped?
[21:38] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: Out of curiosity, why did you want the source code for GNU applications then?
[21:38] <lalondong> Kruppt : what is stanza in grub?
[21:38] <hikari_> i have a sony VPCSA2SGX and i want to switch to ubuntu but i am afraid that i will have problems with  AMD Radeon™ HD 6470M / 6630M and Intel® HD Graphics 3000
[21:38] <arrrghhh> hey guys.  I have a ubuntu 12.04.2 installation, and when I print the icon doesn't show up in the system tray
[21:38] <arrrghhh> however, when I use the CUPS webUI, I am able to see active print jobs and cancel
[21:38] <PatrickDickey> allnights: Did you tell it to uninstall fglrx?
[21:38] <allnights> no lol
[21:39] <arrrghhh> how can I get this ability within Ubuntu, without the need to go to the CUPS web interface?
[21:39] <PatrickDickey> allnights:  you need to. You're replacing the open source (fglrx) driver with the AMD proprietary one.
[21:39] <allnights> command line to do that?
[21:39] <jrtappers> allnights, You just need to uninstall the ond one
[21:39] <jrtappers> allnights, sudo /usr/share/ati/amd-uninstall.sh
[21:40] <ubuntu-studio_> PatrickDickey, I have installed arch on my ("s" word) laptop and i like the base system but don't what there packages. I know this sounds advanced and longterm' but i am looking to make a custom distro.
[21:40] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: Then Linux From Scratch and Beyond LFS are your best bet.
[21:40] <Opikat> ubuntu-studio, you can call such a laptop a craptop.
[21:40] <Kruppt> lalondong: you should be good to go
[21:40] <arrrghhh> hikari_, test it out on a liveCD first
[21:41] <allnights> command not found
[21:41] <allnights> plus did not think I had an AMD driver installed
[21:41] <PatrickDickey> and ubuntu-studio_ if you're going that route, you'll want to go to their irc server at irc.linuxfromscratch.org:6667 to get help.
[21:41] <ubuntu-studio_> PatrickDickey, Ok i'll have a look.
[21:41] <jrtappers> run the same but fglrx-uninstall.sh
[21:43] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: I might be able to find you a script that will get the base install started. I've got it, but I don't know if the creator still has it on his site or not.
[21:43] <jose> Where can I download ubuntu for my netbook Lenovo brand
[21:43] <Atari2600> Is it possible to run Ubuntu on 128 bytes of RAM?
[21:43] <allnights> same answer
[21:43] <arrrghhh> bytes of RAM?  Atari2600 are you trolling?
[21:43] <allnights> would it not be different folder and not ati?
[21:43] <arrrghhh> 128 megabytes, maybe... but 128 bytes?  dafaq?
[21:43] <jrtappers> allnights, does the folder exist?
[21:43] <Atari2600> arrrghhh: nope, I am on a machine from 1977
[21:43] <jelly-home> Atari2600: is it possible to generate a photorealistic mountains video in 4096 bytes?
[21:44] <jrtappers> allnights, If not we can override the installer to force install
[21:44] <allnights> how do I step back up the folder tree?
[21:44] <Atari2600> Atari 2600, search it on Wikipedia
[21:44] <allnights> or cd..
[21:44] <jrtappers> cd ..
[21:44] <arrrghhh> Atari2600, then no.  you can't.
[21:44] <ubuntu-studio_> PatrickDickey, thanks :->
[21:44] <Atari2600> I want to install Linux on it
[21:44] <Atari2600> it has 4KB hard disk space
[21:44] <arrrghhh> Atari2600, you're not going to get ubuntu on it.
[21:44] <arrrghhh> so anyone know about printers?
[21:44] <Atari2600> you sure it aint possible? I thought linux was light
[21:44] <jrtappers> allnights, run the installer as sudo with --force
[21:44] <Atari2600> I can play games on this machine you know
[21:45] <arrrghhh> Atari2600, maybe you can shoehorn some form of Linux on there, but not Ubuntu.
[21:45] <Atari2600> jelly-home: anyway search for the atari 2600
[21:46] <Atari2600> arrrghhh: hmm, how?
[21:46] <ptl> gotcha
[21:46] <ptl> gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background active true -> solved it
[21:46] <arrrghhh> Atari2600, this is #ubuntu
[21:46] <Atari2600> this is also Linux
[21:46] <arrrghhh> Atari2600, please.  I'm trying to genuinely get help with Ubuntu here.
[21:46] <Atari2600> Ubuntu == Linux
[21:46] <Atari2600> Linux is on topic
[21:47] <jelly-home> Atari2600: I've played games on that 32 years ago, why search now?
[21:47] <ptl> much better now!!!
[21:47] <PatrickDickey> ubuntu-studio_: I was mistaken about their server. It's on freenode (with us) at #lfs-support
[21:47] <arrrghhh> I'm sure others are as well
[21:47] <allnights> oops
[21:47] <allnights> did the --force go at the end or after sudo? lol
[21:47] <jrtappers> at the enf
[21:47] <jrtappers> *end
[21:48] <Atari2600> jelly-home: jeez, you must be old
[21:48] <allnights> command not found
[21:48] <Atari2600> Anyway..
[21:48] <DJones> Atari2600: This channel only deals with Ubuntu support, there is ##linux for general linux chat
[21:48] <Atari2600> it brings back old memories jelly-home
[21:48] <arrrghhh> ^^^^^
[21:48] <Atari2600> buy one from eBay, they are only like £30
[21:48] <jrtappers> cd to the catalyst folder
[21:48] <prestigio> Is somebody willing to help me? I would like to install Ubuntu on my Tablet, but first I shell flash the recovery. Any Hacker willing to guide me?
[21:48] <Atari2600> DJones: you need to be signed in
[21:48] <allnights> im in the cat folder
[21:49] <DJones> !register | Maybe you need to register first,
[21:49] <lolcat> How can I know why X crashes three times a day?
[21:49] <Atari2600> I don't want to
[21:49] <jelly-home> does this channel have a way to notify ops about trolling?
[21:49] <jrtappers> run sudo ./amd<>.run --force
[21:49] <Atari2600> lolcat:: cat /etc/xorg/error.log
[21:49] <jrtappers> replace <> with full name
[21:50] <arrrghhh> Atari2600, sounds like a personal problem
[21:50] <arrrghhh> anyone know about printing in Ubuntu?  I can use the CUPS interface fine, but I don't want to use a webUI to cancel/view jobs
[21:50] <Atari2600> jelly-home: jeez I'm not trolling
[21:50] <Atari2600> I am only asking about this machine
[21:50] <jrtappers> arrrghhh, dont want to, or dont want to be able to?
[21:50] <arrrghhh> which obviously has no chance of running Ubuntu.  which == trolling
[21:50] <lolcat> Atari2600: The file doesn't exist?
[21:50] <jelly-home> Atari2600: not everything is about you.  Chill out.
[21:50] <ubuntu-studio_> PatrickDickey, k thank u
[21:50] <arrrghhh> jrtappers, so the issue is when I print from this machine, the icon doesn't show up in the system tray.
[21:50] <b33r> how do i access a network folder in ubuntu?  in windows i would just open the RUN box and type \\PCname
[21:51] <arrrghhh> jrtappers, when I go to the CUPS webUI, I see the active print jobs and can cancel them.  shouldn't there be a way to do this without going to the webUI for CUPS?
[21:51] <Atari2600> lolcat: well make it
[21:51] <lalondong_> Kruppt : boss, i'm on my own linux right now, but when i checked gparted, i found something weird. : http://postimage.org/image/dijzok3yf/
[21:51] <jelly-home> Atari2600: obviously you're not some moron trying to run linux on a MMU-less 8-bit machine, because that would never work.
[21:51] <lolcat> Atari2600: How would that help
[21:51] <allnights> lol it still comes up command not found
[21:52] <jrtappers> allnights, ls the folder
[21:52] <Atari2600> lolcat: Xorg puts the error messages into it if it finds the file
[21:52] <allnights> yup same as before green and red
[21:52] <allnights> amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run  fglrx-install.TwaNdY
[21:52] <allnights> amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.zip  fglrx-install.zBJqQu
[21:53] <Opikat> have nice day /night everyone, I'm signing off
[21:53] <jrtappers> sudo ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run --force
[21:53] <Atari2600> jelly-home: good old days of the Atari 2600 ...
[21:53] <Atari2600> remember space invaders?
[21:53] <allnights> what the?...
[21:53] <jrtappers> allnights, whats happened?
[21:53] <histo> jrtappers: People should be using the built in hardware drivers dialog. Using ati's can break the system upon removal
[21:53] <jaime> .
[21:54] <Atari2600> .
[21:54] <Atari2600> .
[21:54] <jaime> I'm leaving.
[21:54] <Atari2600> jaime: okay
[21:54] <b33r> can someone help me real quick
[21:54] <b33r> how do i access a network folder in ubuntu?  in windows i would just open the RUN box and type \\PCname
[21:54] <jaime> See you later
[21:54] <jrtappers> histo, He wants amdcccle working, so their prop drivers are the only option, he said he couldn't use the inbuilt ones
[21:55] <Atari2600> jaime: okay
[21:55] <jrtappers> b33r, open file viewer
[21:55] <jrtappers> File > Connect to server > Select Windows Share in the dropdown
[21:55] <histo> jrtappers: You can install it from the hardware drivers dialog
[21:55] <histo> jrtappers: they can install fglrx and amdcccle whatever from there.
[21:56] <histo> The proper way
[21:56] <jrtappers> histo, thanks, il try it
[21:56] <allnights> this will be jumpy lol
[21:56] <lalondong_> Kruppt : bos, it still showing the default free space before we do the partition. http://postimage.org/image/dijzok3yf/
[21:56] <jrtappers> I find they work even if add drivers doesn't
[21:56] <histo> b33r: Access other windows machines?
[21:56] <b33r> yes
[21:56] <b33r> i'm trying to access a shared folder on my windows 7 machine
[21:57] <histo> jrtappers: They break the system upon removal. I wouldn't recomend it to people. Hardware drivers installs the same thing but does it properly
[21:57] <allnights> freezes around 4 or 5 times
[21:57] <jrtappers> histo, on my pc additional refused to work whereas the website ones worked
[21:57] <allnights> dont worry about it histo
[21:58] <histo> b33r: ctrl+l in file browser to get the location bar. and type in smb://hostname
[21:58] <b33r> histo, i'm trying to access a shared folder on my windows 7 machine
[21:58] <histo> b33r: or you may have to use IP if you don't have winbind and your domain name setup right.
[21:59] <jrtappers> allnights, Is it working?
[21:59] <histo> b33r: there is also "Browse Network" in there as well
[21:59] <jrtappers> histo, You could use the connect to network share dialog File > connect to server
[21:59] <histo> b33r: but you have to specify smb://hostname or IP   to do it directly rather than browsing there
[22:00] <histo> jrtappers: I'm well aware of that. Not me that has the problem.
[22:00] <b33r> histo,  thanks i'll try that
[22:01] <jrtappers> allnights, ?
[22:01] <arrrghhh> jrtappers, anything?  Did I miss your response?
[22:02] <arrrghhh> brb reboot
[22:02] <sam113101> how do I hide my real name on launchpad?
[22:03] <danman1453> how can i change a listening port from tcp6 to tcp?
[22:03] <danman1453> i dont have an inetd.conf to play with.
[22:04] <elena-IK> I want to create a live usb system. the startup disk creater only offers me to use up to 4G for files and settings. is there a way to get more persistent space? is a normal installation to an usb stick a viable alternative when using it on multiple computers? (the last time I tried a normal install, networking worked only on the computer I did the installation on)
[22:04] <jrtappers> allnights, Whats happening?
[22:05] <jrtappers> arrrghhh, Doesn't seem to be possible, unless ive missed something, the job is passed to the server and the client has nothing to do with it
[22:05] <arrrghhh> jrtappers, I guess I'm just confused.  Isn't there supposed to be some icon in the system tray when I print?
[22:06] <jrtappers> arrrghhh, I think that only applies to local printing
[22:06] <mkquist> lalondong_: things still not right?
[22:06] <zoktar> is there a way to see the configure options used at compile time for a .deb package?
[22:06] <arrrghhh> jrtappers, that's what I'm doing
[22:06] <jrtappers> arrrghhh, Oh
[22:07] <lalondong_> mkquist : i think so, take a look at this : http://postimage.org/image/dijzok3yf/
[22:07] <arrrghhh> jrtappers, I'm using USB to print.....
[22:07] <mkquist> lalondong_: saw that one
[22:07] <jrtappers> arrrghhh, Does it show up in the printers dialogue?
[22:07] <lalondong_> mkquist : how the hell it's all used while i haven't install anything since we resize the partition.
[22:08] <arrrghhh> jrtappers, it does, but I can't "stop" the job from that dialog.  I can only stop jobs from CUPS webUI
[22:08] <arrrghhh> and the icon in the system tray I guess "sometimes" shows... I'm thinking I need to reinstall some package or something... but what?
[22:08] <mkquist> lalondong_: well you have two partitions not doing anything looks to me
[22:08] <allnights> keeps freezing, god annoying
[22:08] <allnights> getting there I think
[22:09] <mkquist> lalondong_: sda7 and sda8 are using up the rest of the extended partition
[22:09] <allnights> total progress bar near end
[22:09] <allnights> postprocessing kernal module
[22:09] <deltree_> downlaoded the gparted live iso and mounted it on my vbox, but which file is the one that I need to run?
[22:09] <allnights> oops kernel
[22:09] <allnights> wohooo
[22:09] <deltree_> the only bash file I see is makeboot, which we don't want
[22:10] <arrrghhh> deltree_, for what?  also, this is #ubuntu, I might've missed something....
[22:10] <allnights> done and now reboot back soon
[22:10] <mkquist> lalondong_: what are you trying to do in all - just a short description
[22:10] <deltree_> arrrghhh I've been working on this problem for a bit, I'm trying to run gparted from a live iso so that I can verify if I'm really out of space
[22:10] <lalondong_> mkquist : as i remember we were joining the sda5 that has only 8 gb space with the 26 gb free/unallocated space, and it shows it's only has 2 gb free now
[22:11] <arrrghhh> deltree_, df -h doesn't cut it?
[22:11] <deltree_> df - Th says that it's 100% using 3.7 gigs, but the HDD is 8gigs
[22:11] <deltree_> we think it may be LVM confusing things
[22:12] <Kruppt> lalondong:Ok, I'm back what you having problem with?
[22:12] <arrrghhh> are you using LVM?
[22:12] <mkquist> lalondong_: what 26 gb of free space?  From what I see you only have 6.61 Mib and 1.34 Mib unallocated
[22:12] <arrrghhh> brb
[22:12] <deltree_> ubuntu server defaults to use LVM, so yes
[22:13] <Anything_> Is there anyway to validate a ubuntu one account. During the sign up I accidentally click the invalidate link.
[22:13] <lalondong_> Kruppt : take a look at this pic. this is the gparted that open on my ubuntu : http://postimage.org/image/dijzok3yf/
[22:14] <arrrghhh> oy.  anyone know how to fix plymouth splash screens?  for some reason the shutdown screen looks BEAUTIFUL, but the startup screen looks AWFUL.  I do have an nvidia card.
[22:14] <arrrghhh> 12.04.2
[22:15] <TheCrownedFox> Howdy, I seem to have lost the ability to right click on windows and use the menu bar at the top of the screen, when using the stock ubuntu 12.04 with unity. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
[22:15] <neonlight> Hallo
[22:15] <Kruppt> lalondong: the free space showing between your ntfs partitions was created by whatever partition software you used to make them with originally.
[22:16] <lalondong_> so what i have to do now?
[22:17] <lalondong_> Kruppt : erase that space again?
[22:18] <plataoubuntubr> alo
[22:19] <mkquist> lalondong_: again - what 'free' space do you see there?
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> i wnat tp speel
[22:20] <lalondong_> mkquist : the sda5 unused space?
[22:20] <Kruppt> lalondong: Nothing, shouldn't cause a problem.
[22:21] <mkquist> lalondong_: thats not unused, its formatted as ext4
[22:21] <mkquist> lalondong_: what are you trying to 'join' it with?
[22:22] <KornKage> should i install fluendo mp3 plugin ?
[22:22] <DankenseN> whoIs DankenseN
[22:22] <mkquist> lalondong_: sda5 looks almost to be full though
[22:23] <mkquist> lalondong_: thats is being used as root - or where linux is installed/mounted
[22:23] <lalondong_> Kruppt : my sda5 before we resize them, it has only about 8 gb right? so when we resize them with 27 gb unallocated space, i should have about 26 or less unused space right? but why it shows it's only has 2 more gb free space?
[22:25] <Kruppt> lalondong: your sda5 partition and swap partition are fine. You wanted to increase the size of sda5 right?
[22:25] <lalondong_> Kruppt : yes,
[22:25] <arrrghhh> hey guys.  anyone help me with fixing the splash screen?  I have an nvidia card, and when booting up it looks awful.  for some reason, when shutting down it looks great (as it should look)
[22:26] <lalondong_> Kruppt : how about this :
[22:26] <lalondong_> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620768/
[22:26] <Kruppt> lalondoug: the space you see between the ntfs partitions is purposely created by the windows type partitioning software you used originally, has nothing to do with what we did earlier.
[22:26] <arrrghhh> so how can I fix the startup screen so it looks like the shutdown screen?
[22:27] <lalondong_> Kruppt : so did it increase the the size of my ubuntu partition what we did earlier ?
[22:28] <Kruppt> lalondong:the only partitons that have been modified was the sda5 partition, which was increased in size. The swap had to be remade as you had turned all the unallocated space into a swap partition
[22:29] <Nine_9> hello guys, do you know any webmail that will allow me to use multiple imap accounts at once? I've installed roundcube but it doesn't have this feature, squirrelmail doesn't seem to have also, and horde is impossible to install
[22:30] <lalondong_> Kruppt : so it's increase in size as well they used the rest of the size, and the available size are still 2 gb?
[22:30] <arrrghhh> Nine_9, tbh you might have better luck in #ubuntu-server
[22:30] <Nine_9> arrrghhh: ok. thanks
[22:31] <arrrghhh> np
[22:32] <arrrghhh> sooo anyone?  splash screen looks like crap on boot, but looks great on shutdown?  how do I fix this?
[22:33] <lalondong_> Kruppt : is that increasing and as well using the increasing size and left no more availabe space for sda5?
[22:35] <Kruppt> lalondong: sda5 is your ubuntu partition, it is now 26.58 gb in size from 8.1 gb or whatever it was the swap partition is now 2.59 gb in size. I don't follow what your having a problem with
[22:36] <trevor_> hey how do you increase the size of ubuntu's partition?
[22:36] <trevor_> been looking up guides but can't figure it out
[22:36] <lalondong_> Kruppt : so it's not increasing the available space for sda5 ?
[22:37] <ubulove> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop as dual boot but it gets stuck on both usb/cd. If I'm trying to install XP (for example what I've tried) it doesn't stuck. What's wrong?
[22:37] <s-faraday> hi
[22:37] <s-faraday> how can i schedule my ubuntu,
[22:37] <arrrghhh> s-faraday, lookup crontab
[22:37] <TheCrownedFox> \quit
[22:37] <awesomess3> trevor_, perhaps, I guess you could LiveCD ubuntu and then use `gparted` (a GUI app) to resize the partition.
[22:37] <s-faraday> for shutting down at a certain hours
[22:37] <mkquist> trevor_: easy enough using gparted, do you have free space around the partition?
[22:37] <trevor_> would gparted work to increase ubuntu's drive partition?
[22:37] <arrrghhh> ubulove, did you do an md5sum to make sure the download was good?
[22:37] <mkquist> trevor_: very well
[22:38] <trevor_> if i used wubi and not a cd to install ubuntu is it still possible to change the partition size?
[22:38] <Kruppt> lalondong: yes the sda5 partition is increased from what it was, is that not what you wanted to do?
[22:39] <s-faraday> arrrghhh: i know that, is there any graphical way?
[22:39] <arrrghhh> s-faraday, cron works, not sure what else you would want.  it's really simple to use...
[22:39] <s-faraday> GUI
[22:40] <arrrghhh> lol
[22:40] <arrrghhh> CLI
[22:40] <Kruppt> lalondong: run df -Th from root terminal...what is the filesystem size on /?
[22:40] <lalondong_> Kruppt : yes i want to increase them, so i would have more available space on sda5. but it still showing 2 gb free. and not increasing the available space.
[22:40] <ubulove> arrrghhh: I downloaded ubuntu from www.ubuntu.com
[22:41] <arrrghhh> ubulove, doesn't matter.  you need to check the md5 to make sure your download was good.
[22:41] <arrrghhh> please do so
[22:41] <ubulove> damn..
[22:41] <ubulove> I downloaded also xubuntu and the same thing.
[22:42] <trevor_> ok when i open gparted i have 3 partitions and 1.3mb of unallocated space
[22:42] <arrrghhh> ubulove, it's the only way to know the download was good.
[22:42] <arrrghhh> ubulove, did you check the md5?  did it match?
[22:42] <trevor_> the other three partitions are labelled sda 1-3
[22:42] <ubulove> arrrghhh: how can I check the md5 and compare it to original ?
[22:42] <arrrghhh> !md5 | ubulove
[22:42] <ubulove> Thanks mate
[22:42] <arrrghhh> damnit... isn't there one of those thingys
[22:42] <arrrghhh> 1 sec ubulove
[22:42] <trevor_> all of them are using ntfs file system
[22:42] <arrrghhh> oh derp.  it worked lol
[22:43] <RanthorharW> hello there, is there anywhere that I can download this ubuntu for my android phone
[22:43] <TK-999> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[22:43] <arrrghhh> RanthorharW, I guess if you have a Nexus device
[22:43] <arrrghhh> ^^^^^^
[22:43] <TK-999> Also see #ubuntu-touch
[22:43] <RanthorharW> no galaxy s3
[22:43] <RanthorharW> the only supported is nexus , i assume
[22:44] <s-faraday> arrrghhh: sudo shutdown -h 07:50
[22:44] <arrrghhh> RanthorharW, then I would wait for someone @ xda-devs to build it
[22:44] <Kruppt> lalondong: Are you booted into your Ubuntu install right now on sda5? If the ext4 filesystem did not resize that is easy enough to fix.
[22:44] <ldiamond> Alright, I have a weird issue. On the top left of my left monitor, over my gnome panel, there's some kind of square artifact that prevents me from clicking whatever is under it. It starts by just being slightly darker than the panel, then after a while it becomes completely black... as if it has a certain opacity.
[22:44] <arrrghhh> s-faraday, ok...?
[22:44] <arrrghhh> RanthorharW, only officially supported devices are Nexus.  See that page linked by TK-999
[22:44] <s-faraday> arrrghhh: this command will close my running torrent client at that time?
[22:45] <arrrghhh> s-faraday, that will halt your system, it will shutdown everything.
[22:45] <lalondong_> Kruppt : yes i'm on my ubuntu right now, not on live-cd anymore. How to fix this?
[22:45] <mkquist> trevor_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45158/how-to-increase-the-partition-size-of-ubuntu-installed-under-windows answers that one...
[22:45] <trevor_> thanks
[22:46] <arrrghhh> brb
[22:46] <RanthorharW> i need to wait a wee bit of more then
[22:46] <RanthorharW> thx
[22:47] <s-faraday> arrrghhhAWAY: even if my laptop be inactive for some hours?
[22:47] <lalondong_> Kruppt : yes i'm on my ubuntu right now, not on live-cd anymore. How to fix this?
[22:48] <Kruppt> lalondong:run df -Th from a root terminal and post the output so I can see what the filesystem size is
[22:48] <arrrghhh> s-faraday, what do you mean??  it will run whenever you tell it to.
[22:49] <lalondong_> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620810/
[22:50] <ulidtko> hey channel, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620807/ ← what's wrong? "dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6"
[22:51] <ulidtko> I'm packaging a simple application, and it has Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} in its debian/control
[22:51] <ulidtko> why doesn't libc.so get... detected or what?
[22:51] <AureliusR> hi there. I'm trying to install a Realtek audio driver, and I keep getting an error when I try to run configure, it says gcc: cannot run C compiled programs
[22:51] <mdel> hey all - ran into an issue with my bluetooth after installing and trying to use Wiican. Now my bluetooth seems to be stuck in an OFF mode, and dmesg indicates the bluetooth process
[22:51] <Kruppt> lalondong: the partition has been increased but gparted choked when resizing the filesystem. you need to boot back into live-usb or cd and resize the ext4 filesystem from command line is all
[22:51] <s-faraday> arrrghhh: got it
[22:51] <s-faraday> thanks so much
[22:52] <s-faraday> bye :)
[22:52] <mdel> here is what dmesg says about Bluetooth: http://pastebin.com/TKQjNUZW
[22:52] <PatrickDickey> ulidtko: You might get more help with that in #ubuntu-app-devel But I'm not sure.
[22:52] <ldiamond> Can anyone help out with this? http://snag.gy/RdRMD.jpg  It's some kind of artifact that goes on the top left of my desktop and prevents me from clicking whats under (my gnome panel)
[22:52] <ulidtko> PatrickDickey: thanks anyway!
[22:52] <lalondong_> okey, i'll boot it right now. hold on.
[22:53] <Guest36748> hello all
[22:53] <PatrickDickey> ldiamond: Is that there from when you boot up to when you shut down? Or did it appear when you opened a particular application?
[22:53] <DankenseN> hi
[22:53] <ldiamond> is there a way to find out what process owns this?
[22:53] <trevor_> thanks for the help guys
[22:53] <Random832> ldiamond: it's probably a window - run xwininfo and click on it
[22:53] <ldiamond> PatrickDickey, it happens at some point... I can't tell exactly when
[22:54] <AureliusR> does my problem sound like its with gcc or with the configure script included with the driver?
[22:54] <Random832> or xprop if xwininfo doesn't give you enough information
[22:54] <ldiamond> Random832, yea, xwininfo gives me something
[22:54] <Random832> what is it
[22:55] <ldiamond> Ah!
[22:55] <ldiamond> Found the application
[22:55] <ldiamond> Thanks
[22:55] <Random832> what was it
[22:55] <ldiamond> steam
[22:56] <TK-999> steam is proprietary feces
[22:56] <ldiamond> quitting steam works
[22:56] <ldiamond> yea it's horrible
[22:56] <AureliusR> lol @TK-999
[22:56] <ldiamond> crashes all the time
[22:56] <TK-999> I mean, ofc Debian might be a bit over the edge, but closed-source games and stuff...
[22:57] <TK-999> There's even an antivirus vendor, who develops AV for Linux, for actual money
[22:58] <Random832> TK-999: isn't the main purpose of that for stuff like email filtering for windows end-users?
[22:58] <TomyLobo> hi. does wine need any kind of group to work with a newly created user?
[22:58] <arrrghhh> nah they try to scare you into needing it.  many AV vendors do it.
[22:58] <TK-999> Random: no, this is actual, real desktop AV
[22:59] <PatrickDickey> TK-999: which one?
[22:59] <TK-999> http://www.eset.com/home/products/antivirus-linux/
[22:59] <PatrickDickey> Ahhhh yeah ok. They don't offer anything free.
[22:59]  * PatrickDickey has used Bitdefender and F-Secure on ubuntu before
[22:59] <lalondong> Kruppt : i'm on live-usb right now. what do i have to do?
[23:00] <TomyLobo> nod32 still sounds more like a virus than an antivirus
[23:00] <arrrghhh> nod32 has gotten awards for being one of the best vendors... just fyi.
[23:00] <Kruppt> fire up a root terminal for starts and run mount command so we can be sure sda5 is NOT mount first
[23:00] <TomyLobo> i was commenting on the sounds of the name
[23:00] <AureliusR> can anyone help me or point me in the right direction?
[23:01] <Nach0z> AureliusR: with whatnow
[23:01] <AureliusR> I just don't knoe enough about gcc to fix this on my own
[23:01] <Nach0z> ohey TomyLobo, didn't know you were here too lol
[23:01] <AureliusR> hi there. I'm trying to install a Realtek audio driver, and I keep getting an error when I try to run configure, it says gcc: cannot run C compiled programs
[23:01] <arrrghhh> AureliusR, this isn't really a dev channel
[23:01] <arrrghhh> isn't there #ubuntu-dev or something?
[23:01] <AureliusR> but I'm not trying to develop anything
[23:01] <TomyLobo> i forgot, where have we met?
[23:01] <AureliusR> I'm just trying to install an audio driver...
[23:01] <anonymous37> hello everyone
[23:01] <arrrghhh> AureliusR, mixed you up with someone else I guess
[23:01] <Nach0z> TomyLobo: SK-dev, I was the one that submitted the patch for worldguard to fix flags not being stored correctly
[23:01] <lalondong> Kruppt : i'm on root terminal,. what next?
[23:01] <Kruppt> lalondong:not mounted that is
[23:01] <AureliusR> lol its okay arrrghhh
[23:02] <arrrghhh> it sounds like you're trying to compile the Realtek poop by hand AureliusR ?  there's no deb?
[23:02] <TomyLobo> ahhh
[23:02] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: Does it have an INSTALL or README file in the download? That might point you in the right direction.
[23:02] <AureliusR> no there's no deb. the instructions that come with it tell you to run the configure first, then make, then make install
[23:02] <Kruppt> run "mount" from root terminal and be sure sda5 is NOT mounted
[23:02] <lalondong> Kruppt : i don't remember how to see that.
[23:02] <AureliusR> but I keep getting errors while trying to run configure
[23:03] <arrrghhh> AureliusR, do you have a build environment setup?  have you compiled stuff before?
[23:03] <Nach0z> AureliusR: is gcc actually installed?
[23:03] <AureliusR> yeah I have
[23:03] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: could you pastebin the errors please?
[23:03] <AureliusR> and yes it is
[23:03] <AureliusR> sure thing
[23:03] <Kruppt> just type mount then enter
[23:03] <arrrghhh> AureliusR, pastebin the error
[23:03] <arrrghhh> lol sorry someone already asked... my nets is SLOW today
[23:04] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620838/
[23:04] <PatrickDickey> arrrghhh: you weren't that far behind. ;-)
[23:04] <AureliusR> http://aurelius.pastebay.net/1189771
[23:05] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: what does config.log show?
[23:06] <AureliusR> I'm not sure which config.log it's referring to, to be honest
[23:06] <PatrickDickey> type ls and see if there's one in that directory.
[23:06] <AureliusR> oh there is! nice.
[23:06] <Kruppt> lalondong: it is not mounted,  running resize2fs is supposed to be non-destructive, but shit happens, if you really need anything backed up, nows a good time to do so rather than be sorry
[23:06] <arrrghhh> is there one in that folder?
[23:07] <PatrickDickey> Paste that up also, please.
[23:07] <AureliusR> ill pastebin it
[23:07] <AureliusR> http://aurelius.pastebay.net/1189772
[23:09] <wmax> how do i get the namespace of a namespace qualified keyword
[23:09] <wmax> wrong channel
[23:09] <wad> I'm kind of regretting upgrading my server from debain to Ubuntu. The box can no longer share its printers. Have any of you successfully shared any printers from a machine running Ubuntu 12.04 desktop 32-bit? Via samba or cups, anything at all? Nothing I do works. -_-
[23:09] <Kruppt> lalondong: You ready to rock, or do you need time to backup?
[23:10] <lalondong> Kruppt : from the sda5 right? i've backup the most important data that i have, i've moved them to the upper drive called SnareDrums, as long as this drive are not touch, feel free to fuck this sda5 till i have available space as much as it should be.
[23:10] <AureliusR> wad: yes I have shared my printer. did you remember to do smbpasswd -a 'username'
[23:10] <wad> I can't have authentication in this network.
[23:10] <wad> Under debian, I was able to just set it up to work.
[23:11] <wad> All the windows machines could print, all the linux machines could print, etc.
[23:11] <AureliusR> hmm... I'm sure you can shut that off inside samba, just not sure how
[23:12] <AureliusR> I'm pretty sure samba is the way to go if you're making a printserver though
[23:12] <wad> Yeah, that's my first choice.
[23:12] <AureliusR> its been working great for me...
[23:12] <wad> It's what I was doing before I upgraded.
[23:12] <Kruppt> lalondong: we're not going to fuck up anything, but it is always wise to backup data when doing low level work like this on drives, just wanted to remind you so you don't get excited if something blows
[23:12] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: type ls -l a.out and see if it has read permissions for everyone (should look someting like this -r--r--r--).
[23:12] <AureliusR> but the only way I could use it was to add a separate account in samba for my shares
[23:12] <AureliusR> okay
[23:13] <Macuser> Is it possible to back up my MacBook Pro to a PC running Ubuntu Server?
[23:13] <wad> smb.conf: [printers]   browseable = yes      path = /var/spool/samba     printable = yes   guest ok = yes   read only = yes   create mask = 0700
[23:13] <IdleOne> !language | Kruppt
[23:13] <AureliusR> PatrickDickey: where is a.out?
[23:13] <PatrickDickey> Macuser: I know you can using third party programs, but I'm not sure if it will do it natively.
[23:13] <Macuser> hm
[23:13] <wad> AureliusR, so you added a samba account, not an OS account?
[23:13] <lalondong> Kruppt : okey, i have moved the most importand one, i'm ready.
[23:14] <Kruppt> lalondong: from a root terminal type resize2fs /dev/sda5 when your ready and do nothing else on computer till this process is done. Ok
[23:14] <AureliusR> wad: you need both, generally they should match usernames but not passwords to be secure
[23:14] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: it should be in that directory. I could be wrong though.
[23:14] <AureliusR> it doesn't seem to be, let me check again
[23:15] <AureliusR> I just did locate a.out and it gave me a bunch of different ones
[23:15] <Macuser> PatrickDickey: is it that Ubuntu Server is the problem or the PC hardware?
[23:15] <wad> This machine also acts as an internet gateway, it's got a routable IP address on one NIC, so I don't really want external-facing logins. Actually, this is one reason why I upgraded it. The box was compromised, through an account with a bad password, so I had to wipe it clean.
[23:15] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620854/
[23:15] <wad> Adding an OS account just so I can share printers inside the LAN seems odd.
[23:15] <AureliusR> PatrickDickey: should I pastebin those as well?
[23:16] <PatrickDickey> Macuser: I'm not sure. I've never done it from a Mac to linux. I'd imagine that if you can copy a file to the server, you can back up to it.
[23:16] <Kruppt> lalondong:forgot to say hit enter key when ready,  no playing games or something that crashes and locks system up while doing this LOL!
[23:16] <AureliusR> you dont need another OS account just match the samba users to the exisitng users
[23:16] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: is it one line? If so, just paste it here.
[23:16] <AureliusR> no it's many lines
[23:16] <PatrickDickey> Then I'd say pastebin it.
[23:17] <AureliusR> PatrickDickey: http://aurelius.pastebay.net/1189773
[23:17] <Macuser> PatrickDickey: true but the extensions would mess up
[23:17] <Kruppt> lalondong:run e2fsck -f /dev/sda5 first before running resize2fs /dev/sda5
[23:17] <wad> AureliusR, so you're suggesting adding an OS account on the gateway machine for every user inside the LAN? That's not going to work at all.
[23:17] <Macuser> Does anyone know where I could find out some information on backing a Mac up to linux?
[23:17] <Macuser> a linux PC
[23:17] <AureliusR> no no, not on the gateway machine
[23:17] <wad> The gateway machine is also the print server.
[23:18] <AureliusR> match the samba users on the gateway to the LAN users OS accounts
[23:18] <lalondong> Kruppt : Okey, so i just have to wait until the process done right? and how do i know if the process done?
[23:18] <AureliusR> then when you go to add the share on their computers, just enter in their user and samba password when it asks
[23:18] <codephobic> hi
[23:18] <PatrickDickey> Macuser: whatever backup program you're using, you'd point it to the network location for the output. It won't do anything with the extentions, because you're basically just copying a file over.
[23:18] <AureliusR> wad: do you live in Canada or the US by chance?
[23:18] <wad> USA
[23:18] <Kruppt> lalondong: run e2fsck -f /dev/sda5 first from the root terminal
[23:19] <AureliusR> wad: go to your local library if possible and take out a book called Linux Networking Cookbook -- its AMAZING and will answer all your questions regarding this topic
[23:19] <Macuser> PatrickDickey: so would I need to install anything on the source machine? Or just the target? Like what do I use to get the files from the Mac to the Ubuntu server?
[23:19] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: From what I can see, the realtek driver wants gcc > 5, but yours isn't. I'm not sure what to tell you from here. You could ask in #ubuntu-app-devel even though you're not developing it.
[23:19] <AureliusR> what does that mean?
[23:19] <lalondong> Kruppt : done, i just need to run resize2fs after this. Are chatting forbidden while waiting?
[23:19] <codephobic> I'm having some difficulties getting a consistent response from VirtualBox on my Ubuntu 12.10 host. I've created 5 VM guests (2 debian, 1 freebsd and 1 ubuntu 12.04 server LTS) and they all work perfectly fine.
[23:19] <AureliusR> Different version of gcc?
[23:20] <wad> I'm trying to figure out what you're saying... I don't want to create user accounts on the gateway machine. Every time another machine was plugged into the LAN, I'd have to setup an account so that they can print? Not what I want at all.
[23:20] <codephobic> My problem is with getting them to launch when I start Ubuntu.
[23:20] <wad> On the inside of the LAN, I just want complete unauthenticated access to all the printers on the server.
[23:20] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: Yeah. You're using v 4.7 and it wants v 5.0. I could be wrong though.
[23:20] <codephobic> I've got 2-3 of them working, but can't seem to get all 5 to load up.
[23:20] <wad> If you're inside the LAN, users should be able to print. No accounts, no passwords.
[23:20] <AureliusR> wad: as far as I know, other than guest account that's what you'd have to do. you could write a script to automate it
[23:20] <AureliusR> yes, guest accounts would work better
[23:20] <PatrickDickey> Macuser: Does your mac come with anything for backups? If so, can it point to a network drive for the location?
[23:21] <codephobic> sometimes my freebsd launch and one of the debian VMs fails to launch.
[23:21] <AureliusR> but if you can't get that to work, this is the alternatice
[23:21] <wad> ok
[23:21] <AureliusR> I didn't know the size of your network
[23:21] <Kruppt> lalondong:yeah after e2fsck finishes run resize2fs as I posted earlier...chatting shouldn't hurt ;-0
[23:21] <Macuser> PatrickDickey: well I'm using Time Machine right now. But that's closed.
[23:21] <AureliusR> sorry, I was thinking less than 10 machines for some reason
[23:21] <Macuser> I'm backing up to my external hard drive via usb
[23:21] <AureliusR> okay PatrickDickey I'll look into that
[23:21] <AureliusR> but I just did apt-get install gcc to make sure, and it was the most recent version
[23:21] <PatrickDickey> Macuser: http://kremalicious.com/ubuntu-as-mac-file-server-and-time-machine-volume/ this might help. Like I said, I don't have a Mac, so I'm going by a Google search.
[23:22] <AureliusR> PatrickDickey: and this driver is fairly old so I'd be surprised if that was the problem
[23:22] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620870/
[23:22] <AureliusR> 1 or 2 years anyway
[23:22] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: Which sound card do you have?
[23:23] <AureliusR> PatrickDickey: can I show you the PDF that comes with it?
[23:23] <AureliusR> its an on-board realtek cihip
[23:23] <RyuGuns> Hello.
[23:23] <AureliusR> Gigabyte motherboard GA-MA69GM-S2H
[23:23] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: which chip is it? And you can link me to where you downloaded the pdf or the driver from.
[23:23] <AureliusR> I will do both, just one moment PatrickDickey and THANKS so much!!
[23:24] <Kruppt> lalondong: now lets mount sda5 and check out the filesystem > mkdir /dev/sda5 < then > mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5 <
[23:24] <RyuGuns> I am using a macbook and the builtin microphone and camera wont work.
[23:24] <RyuGuns> Any suggestions?
[23:24] <AureliusR> PatrickDickey: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsCheck.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[23:24] <AureliusR> oh shoot wrong one, sorry
[23:24] <lalondong> Kruppt : the file are exists... so i just need to move to the -> mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5 ?
[23:25] <AureliusR> oh actually that IS the right one, sorry PatrickDickey
[23:25] <AureliusR> its from their taiwan site but that's what I was told to download. it shouldn't make a difference
[23:25] <PatrickDickey> I'll check it out.
[23:25] <Kruppt> lalondong: yeah...now just run mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
[23:26] <lalondong> Kruppt : nothings happend, what next?
[23:26] <Kruppt> lalondong: now lets check filesystem size on sda5...run df -Th in root terminal
[23:28] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620892/
[23:28] <AureliusR> oh PatrickDickey nevermind!! i downloaded the older one and its working. I just ran bash install and its installing
[23:28] <PatrickDickey> Glad to hear you got it worked out. :)
[23:29] <AureliusR> oh crap. and it returned an error as well :(
[23:29] <PatrickDickey> What error?
[23:29] <AureliusR> install: line 47: alsaconf: command not found
[23:29] <Kruppt> lalondong: It's not mounted type mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5 then enter key
[23:29] <DankenseN> Hi everyone, i'm looking for some bash exercices to practice, could someone help me ?
[23:30] <lalondong> it says : mount: mount point /mnt/sda5 does not exist
[23:30] <lalondong> Kruppt : it says ; mount: mount point /mnt/sda5 does not exist
[23:32] <Kruppt> lalondong: type > mkdir /mnt/sda5;mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5 then the enter key run df -Th again
[23:32] <al_la> Running 12.10, and the screen lock (on screensaver) no longer works .. changing settings and rebooting does nothing to help.  control+alt+L still locks, but the auto-lock does nothing.  Thoughts?
[23:32] <AureliusR> hmm PatrickDickey I think it actually installed anyway
[23:32] <lalondong> Kruppt :  > mkdir /mnt/sda5;mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5 < all of this?
[23:33] <AureliusR> it returned that error at the end but it finished cofigure, make, and make install all on its own I think
[23:33] <codephobic> anyone using vbox 4.2 on Ubuntu 12.10 (host)?
[23:33] <AureliusR> and lsmod seems to show new sound modules
[23:34] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620903/
[23:34] <Kruppt> lalondong: mkdir /mnt/sda5;mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5   <--copy and paste this in terminal then hit enter key
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> codephobic, there is a #vbox channel for virtualbox help.
[23:34] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: if it's still not working right, you may be able to get some advice from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[23:34] <AureliusR> okay thanks PatrickDickey :) it installed but nothing is playing right...
[23:34] <codephobic> wilee-nilee, I'm asking the question in there too
[23:35] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: Well going by the Readme, you have to reboot.
[23:35] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620903/
[23:35] <AureliusR> oh okay
[23:35] <codephobic> wilee-nilee, thought it might be ubuntu specific, as autoload requires a script in /etc/init.d/
[23:35] <AureliusR> brb then ;)
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> codephobic, may be, just wanted to see you get help. ;)
[23:36] <lalondong> Kruppt : so have these 20 gb available? is that mean we made it ?
[23:36] <Kruppt> lalondong: ls -al /mnt/sda5 <-- copy and paste into terminal then hit enter
[23:37] <lalondong> Kruppt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5620908/
[23:37] <KornKage> i need 1 assistance please. I installed ubuntu 12.10 just now. On the boot loader i get Windows loader (/dev/sda1) and abother Windows(loader) (/dev/sda2). I dont know which one to pick, and i would like to make windows default instead of ubuntu
[23:37] <Kruppt> lalondong: yeah the filesystem resized to the partition container size
[23:37] <KornKage> *another not abother
[23:37] <lalondong> Kruppt : so , i just need to go back to my ubunturight now?
[23:38] <Kruppt> lalondong: looks like the filesystem is in tack, all is good with the operation..Ding ;-)
[23:38] <lalondong> Kruppt : so i'll see you on my Ubuntu right?
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> KornKage, you can look at the HD with gparted and see which is the main C sda1 or sda2 one might be the recovery partition. Personally I would stick with grub as a bootloader but there is easybcd
[23:39] <Kruppt> lalondong: yeah your fine, you can reboot into ubuntu on sda5
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> KornKage, by windows default do you mean at the top of the grub list?
[23:40] <PatrickDickey> KornKage: could you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg and the results of sudo fdisk -l please? That way we can see what you have on the drive.
[23:40] <KornKage> yes wilee-nilee
[23:40] <KornKage> hmm PatrickDickey ill try
[23:40] <KornKage> 1 sec
[23:41] <PatrickDickey> I think KornKage wants it to boot to Windows if he doesn't choose something else.
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> KornKage, follow PatrickDickey's instructions that wil be a great help
[23:41] <Pinkamena_D> hello, what is the quickest way to edit an icon for a program (the one which shows up in the sidebar)
[23:41] <KornKage> yes PatrickDickey
[23:42] <AureliusR> uh oh PatrickDickey after rebooting my only audio channel available is dummy output
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> Pinkamena_D, you can change a icon from properties of the app and click on the icon in that gui to follow to the icon you want.
[23:43] <KornKage> PatrickDickey pastebin.com/MAuw9nKd
[23:44] <Macuser> what's better? using an Ubuntu server for a backup server for my Mac or using my old PowerMac G4 as a file server for my Mac?
[23:45] <makson> Hi gents - I set up a CHROOT environment like 3 years ago, my box has been running great, almost 1000 days now! buttttt.. now i need to change something and of course im scratching my head.
[23:45] <lalondong_> Kruppt : Thankyou so much boss, you are a life saver, i was thinking of leaving Ubuntu and go back to Windows, it's 6:44 am right now, haven't any sleep since we're chatting, but it's worth it... Thankyou....... :D
[23:45] <lalondong_> Kruppt : Thankyou so much boss, you are a life saver, i was thinking of leaving Ubuntu and go back to Windows, it's 6:44 am right now, haven't any sleep since we're chatting, but it's worth it... Thankyou....... :D
[23:45] <makson> I'm really jsut looking to get CURL working inside of my chroot env
[23:45] <KornKage> PatrickDickey 1st i don't know which one of the Windows(loader) i should choose. 2nd i would like to make it boot to windows by default. and 3rd if possible with only 1 second of choosing time in that grub boot menu(so it loads windows fast)
[23:45] <makson> i copies the file, but that didn't work cause of LIB dependencies, is there any way to get curl working inside of chroot environment?
[23:46] <PatrickDickey> KornKage: You'll want to check gparted like wilee-nilee suggested. It looks like you've got two Windows 7 drives and a Recovery drive.
[23:46] <KornKage> ok
[23:46] <KornKage> let me download it
[23:47] <KornKage> i installed ubuntu, and havent yet gone to windows , im just trying to be careful :)
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> KornKage, looks like sda1 is the boot partition and sda2 is the main C and sda3 is the recovery, but you can tell better from your end.
[23:47] <PatrickDickey> KornKage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2 will help you after you figure out which one is the right loader.
[23:47] <KornKage> sda3 is the recovery i believe(laptop)
[23:47] <Kruppt> lalondong: yeah no problem...glad to get you going
[23:47] <KornKage> but let me install gparted
[23:48] <PatrickDickey> AureliusR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto might get you going. Sorry for the delay in answering you. I thought I'd posted this one before.
[23:48] <PatrickDickey> KornKage: sda3 is the recovery (you're right). It looks like you have two Windows drives though sda1 and sda2.
[23:49]  * PatrickDickey thinks wilee-nilee is right about the boot partition on sda1
[23:49] <KornKage> i think he is right too sda2 has 400gb
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> KornKage, this a OEM install?
[23:50] <KornKage> i bought the laptop yesterday wilee-nilee
[23:50] <PatrickDickey> KornKage: What you can do is reboot, and try the sda1 loader. If it boots you into Windows, then choose that one when configuring GRUB.
[23:50] <lalondong_> Kruppt : i'm new to linux so sorry i don't even understand the code and stuff... i'll learn as much  as i can... but stuff you did there when making this, are so consufing... Thanks btw.. i'm going to sleep now, and you've got a new member on this channel.
[23:50] <KornKage> windows was on it(and upgraded to windows 7 ultimate)
[23:50] <lalondong_> Bye, and good morning.
[23:50] <Macuser> Will Ubuntu Server just not simply work with backing Macs up to it?
[23:50] <KornKage> ill show u a pic
[23:50]  * AureliusR is going to try those steps, PatrickDickey ;)
[23:50] <makson> anyone know about CHROOT /
[23:51] <Macuser> ?
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> makson | chroot
[23:51] <makson> looking to run curl inside my chroot
[23:51] <Kruppt> lalondong:we all had to start the learning curve somewhere in time.. you did good
[23:52] <PatrickDickey> !chroot | makson
[23:52] <Jordan_U> makson: Do you have apt-get within the chroot?
[23:52] <KornKage> http://i49.tinypic.com/vq7cih.png
[23:52] <makson> Jordan_U: yes, i have apt-get, tried running curl, but got bunch of 404 errors, am i missing the mirrors maybe?
[23:52] <makson> Jordan_U: i mean tried installing curl, and got the 404 errors
[23:52] <Macuser> anyone?
[23:53] <PatrickDickey> KornKage: I'd say /dev/sda1 is the boot loader you want. Worse comes to worse, you try them both.
[23:53] <Jordan_U> makson: Please pastebin the output of "apt-get install curl".
[23:53] <Macuser> is this is the only way to use Ubuntu Server for backing up your Mac(s) http://kremalicious.com/ubuntu-as-mac-file-server-and-time-machine-volume/#netatalk1 ?
[23:53] <PatrickDickey> Macuser: Looking at the link I gave you, if Apple added the undocumented API's, then probably not. Otherwise, you should try the steps in it, and see what happens.
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> KornKage, your boot flag is on sda1 however the sda2 may have all the bootfiles as well, the good thing is that you can probably run the recovery through sda1 if needed.
[23:53] <Jordan_U> KornKage: PatrickDickey: Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the MBR, never to any partition.
[23:54] <Macuser> PatrickDickey: well the steps don't sound easy. So I assume that you cannot just start using Ubuntu Server without doing anything else to it for backing you Mac up to it?
[23:54] <KornKage> (windows was already installed when i installed ubuntu)
[23:54] <PatrickDickey> Macuser:  Here's where I got the results from https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=backing%20mac%20up%20to%20linux%20server&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=a720ab43687f831b&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43828540,d.aWM&biw=1375&bih=806
[23:55] <Macuser> PatrickDickey: yeah I typed that as well
[23:55] <Macuser> so it's not meant to be easy
[23:55] <PatrickDickey> Macuser: There might be a better tutorial somewhere. But no, I'd say unless they both are using the same protocol to talk, they won't just work.
[23:55] <Macuser> and apparently, it's "hacking" since it's not supposed to happen
[23:55] <Macuser> ok thanks
[23:55] <makson> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/6WVWRKV8
[23:55] <Macuser> I may try using my old PowerMac G4 instead. it seems like it would be the best thing to do
[23:56] <PatrickDickey> Macuser:  you could also check into CrashPlan. That's what I've used for backing up linux to linux, and I think it has an Apple version.
[23:56] <Macuser> ugh i hate CrashPlan. I don't use online backing up/"clouds"
[23:56] <makson> Jordan_U: that was apt-get update, standby
[23:57] <PatrickDickey> Macuser: You don't have to do it online. It will back up to another computer on your local network.
[23:57] <Macuser> ? how so
[23:57] <Macuser> i bet it wouldn't back my Mac up to an ubuntu desktop
[23:57] <Macuser> or windows computer
[23:57] <makson> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/k7n43t5y there you go.
[23:58] <PatrickDickey> Install it on both computers. On the "server" you select the location for the backups. On the "client" you use the key that is provided on the "Server" version.
[23:58] <PatrickDickey> http://www.crashplan.com/consumer/thankyou.html?os=Mac Macuser
[23:58] <Jordan_U> KornKage: PatrickDickey: Looking back through the entire conversation, I agree that trying both entries probably can't hurt (as long as you don't actually choose to do any "recovery" if one of the entries is for a recovery partition).
[23:59] <PatrickDickey> KornKage: Jordan_U the recovery is another menu entry altogether in Grub (at least as far as I read from grub.cfg).