[01:32] <chica> ha fresh install
[01:34] <goodtime> now to get the touchscreen working
[01:40] <goodtime> this wine install seems tobe stuck idle
[01:40] <goodtime>  END-USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR MICROSOFT SOFTWARE
[01:41] <goodtime> its showing me this and it wont let me out!
[01:42] <goodtime> i think its installing its a fairly large file
[01:52] <goodtime> hmmm
[01:53] <goodtime> its like the install took over my terminal
[01:53] <goodtime> man
[01:53] <BluesKaj> goodtime, wth are you doing ?
[01:53] <goodtime> installing wine
[01:54] <goodtime> or trying to lol
[01:54] <BluesKaj> alright
[01:55] <goodtime> this is stupid
[01:56] <goodtime> im affraid to close it
[01:59] <BluesKaj> what's it doing ...nothing ?
[02:00] <goodtime> yeah it idle
[02:00] <jmichaelx> question: would there possibly be any way to disable ALL KDE popup notification?
[02:00] <goodtime> it's*
[02:00] <goodtime> yes
[02:00] <BluesKaj> popup where ?
[02:01] <jmichaelx> anywhere.... i want all of them gone
[02:01] <BluesKaj> notification?
[02:01] <goodtime> systemsettings jmichaelx
[02:01] <jmichaelx> do you not know what a notification is?
[02:01] <jmichaelx> goodtime: where?
[02:01] <goodtime> i just kill all or most
[02:01] <jmichaelx> goodtime: how? i have found no way to kill all of them
[02:02] <goodtime> theres many in differnt places in system settings jmichaelx
[02:02] <jmichaelx> i know that. as far as i know, there is no way to disable all of them. if there is, i'd like to find out how
[02:02] <goodtime> look in apperance
[02:03] <goodtime> window decorations
[02:03] <jmichaelx> goodtime: i would not be asking here, if that were all that it took]
[02:03] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, sys settings>notifications> other notifications , checkout the options boxes ther
[02:03] <goodtime> andaffects
[02:03] <goodtime> and *affects
[02:04] <goodtime> this might be some server issue
[02:04] <goodtime> idk
[02:04] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: i have combed all through those settings off and on the past several years, and cannot find a way to disable all of them... i could be missing something
[02:05] <jmichaelx> i wish there were a simple way to shut every last one of them off
[02:05] <goodtime> yeah i think this wine install is botched
[02:06] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, the system tray in the panel has some settings that can be modded , like the "entries list
[02:06] <goodtime> the prob is if i just close it i wont be able to install anything nor will i be able to update
[02:06] <goodtime> that a big prob
[02:07] <goodtime> heh its too late i think anyhow
[02:07] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: i want systray notifications, it is the popups i want to kill
[02:08] <goodtime> yeah it will alway be running in the background now oh god
[02:08] <goodtime> and this is a fresh install lol
[02:09] <BluesKaj> goodtime, if you close the terminal before wine's finished installing then run , sudo dpkg --configure -a in the terminal , then run , sudo apt-get -f install
[02:09] <goodtime> ty BluesKaj
[02:10] <goodtime> dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[02:10] <goodtime> i told you it was a big prob lol
[02:11] <goodtime> anyother ideas
[02:12] <goodtime> now i just hate wine lol
[02:13] <goodtime> and windows even more than ever
[02:14] <goodtime> im affraid if i reboot the same will happen
[02:14] <BluesKaj> close the terminal of course , then open it again, then do , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:14] <goodtime> wow ok
[02:15] <goodtime> ty BluesKaj you the best
[02:16] <BluesKaj> goodtime, I keep a text file of common commands handy for these situations
[02:17] <BluesKaj> anyone using Linux should ...the command line is a great tool
[02:20] <goodtime> its the best
[02:21] <goodtime> good idea ill save the commands and title them
[02:21] <goodtime> ty BluesKaj
[02:22] <BluesKaj> yup , goodtime just use a heading for the particular problem/issue
[02:22] <goodtime> i owe you one BluesKaj
[02:23] <BluesKaj> hehenp goodtime , that's why we're here
[02:24] <BluesKaj> <--old lab guy , expreience is a great teacher
[02:27] <BluesKaj> hey monkeyjuice
[02:28] <monkeyjuice> hey
[05:01] <roasted> Any of you folks using Icon Task Manager? I notice with my received IMs that need attention they're coming up with a red triangle, which is dark and harder to see than the blue triangle I had before. I have no idea what I did that changed the color, but I can't seem to figure it out. Any insight?
[08:03] <nabalzs> Hello everyone! May I ask a question? I tried to install Google Chrome on kubuntu (other gtk apps like Imagewriter and Unetbootin), and Qapt appeared, I clicked on install, and it said that it was succesful, but I couldn't find none of the programs I installed (which is gtk). I tried both 12.04 and 12.10. :(
[08:23] <nabalzs> ello everyone! May I ask a question? I tried to install Google Chrome on kubuntu (other gtk apps like Imagewriter and Unetbootin), and Qapt appeared, I clicked on install, and it said that it was succesful, but I couldn't find none of the programs I installed (which is gtk). I tried both 12.04 and 12.10. :( What should I do?
[09:45] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> Hi! I tried both kubuntu 12.04 and 12.10, and I do like the improvements to dolphin and software center, but I also like the... LTS-ness of 12.04. So, why doesn't dolphin and other stuff, in 12.04, get updated to the new versions used by 12.10? And if I update them myself, will I lose out on any of said LTS-ness? I am slightly lost :)
[09:46] <valorie> I think the term you are searching for is backported
[09:47]  * valorie is testing 13.04 betas right now
[09:47] <valorie> if you like 12.10, use it for a month or two, then update to 13.04
[09:47] <valorie> and you'll have the latest and greatest, and stil have stability
[09:48]  * valorie > to bed
[09:48] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> what if I... just update dolphin?
[09:50] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> or maybe even the whole KDE desktop, hm hm.. :/
[09:51] <plank> Hi, I have 4 virtual desktops. How can i change layout of widgets on each desktop separately
[10:10] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:11] <Magz> jjojo
[10:11] <plank> hey
[10:12] <lordievader> Hey Magz, plank. How are you two?
[10:12] <plank> can i change layout of widgets on each desktop separately?
[11:04] <Linusnewb> hi all
[11:07] <Drqshine> hi
[11:07] <lordievader> Hey Linusnewb, Drqshine
[11:45] <Linusnewb> hi all
[11:45] <lordievader> Welcome back Linusnewb
[11:45] <Linusnewb> thank you lordievader
[11:48] <Linusnewb> my internet connection doesn't work till 2 days and I have new idea :))
[11:50] <Linusnewb> if I extract from live cd resolv.conf resolvconf folder dhcp folder and dhcp3 folder and also nertworkmanager folder in my system?? make it any overwrite files?
[11:52] <lordievader> Linusnewb: I had someone else in another channel with a similair problem, changing the /etc/resolv.conf/resolv.conf.d/base file or the /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf file fixed the problem for him.
[11:55] <Linusnewb> lordie has he extract the files from cd or reconfigured?
[11:57] <lordievader> Linusnewb: Reconfigured.
[11:59] <lordievader> Linusnewb: If I'm not mistaken, the live-cd points to localhost for dns in the resolv.conf file.
[12:04] <avihay> I'm stunned by how far my distrust of muon goes
[12:48] <Linusnewb> lordievader I'm online thank you
[12:48] <Linusnewb> it has works :D
[12:48] <lordievader> Linusnewb: Yayy :D
[12:53] <Linusnewb> I have extract /etc/dhcpclient folder and /etc/resolvconv folder and /run/resolvconf folder bu first disabled network manager for not owerwriting then reboot and start
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:55] <Linusnewb> maybe useful for other people with same probs the scripts in livecd 12.10 works fine without any editing
[12:55] <Linusnewb> hi blueskaj
[12:56] <BluesKaj> hi Linusnewb
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Linusnewb, how's your wifi ?
[13:02] <krabador> hi people, on kubuntu 12.04 installation, when i chose "manual" it don't let me chose partition
[13:04] <BluesKaj> krabador, make sure click on the partition text , not in the space following
[13:06] <Linusnewb> it works yet blueskaj
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Linusnewb, good
[13:11] <xixor> sup
[13:12] <lordievader> Hey xixor
[13:34] <westmi>  Had to install updates today.I schedule them to happen every 2 weeks.so, as usual, adobe wants extra password to update.I grabbed the keyboard, looked at the screen to start typing, and I get a message, saying I did not get to it fast enough,and it will be reported.I instaintly wanted ti kill.
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[13:35] <westmi> now I got no flash
[13:38] <lordievader> westmi: Since when does flashplugin-installer require an additional password?
[13:43] <westmi> idk how long this has been going on
[13:45] <lordievader> westmi: It was a bit of sarcasm... The package flasplugin-installer should not ask for a password. Do you have some system-policy or something?
[13:45] <westmi> heh
[13:46] <lordievader> westmi: How are you installing/updating anyway?
[13:46] <westmi> I installed kubuntu about 2 months ago, and since then it has asked me every time updates come in, once for the update, then one again for flash
[13:47] <lordievader> Muon?
[13:47] <westmi> I schedule the updates every 2 weeks
[13:49] <westmi> I'm really frustrated.everything worked properly before the update, and since some message says I did not put the password in fast enough, I got no flash.
[13:49] <westmi> this aint right
[13:49] <lordievader> westmi: What ain't right is that the flash updates asks for the password again, what updater are you using?
[13:50] <westmi> kubuntu
[13:50] <westmi> the one that comes with kubuntu
[13:51] <lordievader> westmi: That is the distro, are you using Muon or apt-get or something to update your system?
[13:51] <lordievader> westmi: Gui updater?
[13:51] <westmi> yep
[13:51] <westmi> gui
[13:52] <westmi> the one that is doing the updating....I did not change it...so it has to be the default one?
[13:52] <lordievader> westmi: Hmm, odd. See if apt-get also asks for another password: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:52] <krabador> can i resize and create partition, on the partition editor during kubuntu installation?
[13:52] <lordievader> krabador: Yes, you can ;)
[13:54] <westmi> yep, it asked for a password again, and then it did it (i assume, cause it looks like it did)
[13:54] <westmi> apt-get update
[13:55] <westmi> I did not do apt get upgrade
[13:56] <clesio> o
[13:56] <lordievader> westmi: It asked once or twice?
[13:56] <westmi> once
[13:57] <lordievader> westmi: That is normal, for the sudo you need a password.
[13:57] <westmi> yep
[13:57] <westmi> doesn't tell me why flash is *&^%$ up
[13:58] <westmi> so how do I re install flash?
[13:58] <lordievader> westmi: No, it doesn't.. strange. Not sure if it will work but you might remove flash and reinstall it again.
[14:00] <lordievader> westmi: It might be simply the flashplugin-installer package, but that might just as well be a meta package.
[14:00] <westmi> well, it is all fishy...I would see a notice to install updates, and I would click on the icon in the bottom bar, to install. It would ask for a pass, I would then provide it.
[14:01] <lordievader> westmi: Again, does it ask once or twice?
[14:01] <westmi> It started downloading, then installing.Then it will ask for my pass again
[14:02] <westmi> and that was when I did not provide it fast enough, and now no flash
[14:02] <lordievader> westmi: So before downloading it asks for your password and before installing?
[14:02] <OerHeks> that is correct, once for downloading, and once for install. typing your pass does depend on time
[14:02] <westmi> it asked for it before downloading, and then again while installing
[14:03] <westmi> not before installing, during the install
[14:04] <westmi> seems to be the adobe update
[14:04] <cojack> some one know any repo that I can update qt up to 4.8.4?
[14:04] <westmi> had a list of updates, because I scheduled the updates to go every 2 weeks
[14:05] <lordievader> OerHeks: Doesn't Muon just issue apt-get upgrade? <- only asks once for the password.
[14:06] <westmi> I'm pretty sure it asked for the password again when it was on the flash updae
[14:06] <westmi> *update
[14:09] <westmi> when I did not provide the pass fast enough, it gave me a silly message that I wan't fast enough, and it would be reported
[14:09] <westmi> *wasn't
[14:11] <OerHeks> never seen that, not fast enough ...\
[14:11] <westmi> me eather
[14:11] <westmi> seems really silly
[14:11] <OerHeks> just re-install, in this time you told us twice, you could have done it
[14:11] <lordievader> Hehehe
[14:11] <westmi> so how do I re install?
[14:12] <OerHeks> muon > select flashplugin installer > reinstall
[14:12] <OerHeks> restart your browser after that
[14:16] <westmi> heh.works now thanks
[14:16] <roasted> hello friends
[14:16] <westmi> going to remember that
[14:16] <ed23467654> hi can somebody help me, my system came with libre office 3, today I tried reinstalling and it reinstalled to 3 again even though version 4 is available now, tried manually downloadind and installinng but that didnt work
[14:16] <roasted> Any of you folks using Icon Task Manager? I notice with my received IMs that need attention they're coming up with a red triangle, which is dark and harder to see than the blue triangle I had before. I have no idea what I did that changed the color, but I can't seem to figure it out. Any insight?
[14:18] <e_t_> ed23467654: LibreOffice 4 is available upstream, but it hasn't been added to the Ubuntu repos yet. Wait for 13.04 and it'll be there. Or you could look for a PPA. If you did the manual install, it's put in a different install path which I don't recall, but it doesn't replace the system-installed version.
[14:20] <Linusnewb> ehm new question what is IPv6?
[14:21] <Linusnewb> :))
[14:21] <e_t_> Linusnewb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6
[14:23] <Linusnewb> can anyone set dns adresses on networkmanager gui cause I'm still can't...
[14:24] <Linusnewb> IPv6 don't let me choose point for adresses
[14:24] <e_t_> Did you set the method to Automatic (addresses only) ?
[14:25] <Linusnewb> yes
[14:27] <Linusnewb> I mean for example 8.8.8.8 but no access to seting points on the gui it seems like this only 8888
[14:27] <lordievader> Linusnewb: Are you using Ipv6? 8.8.8.8 is an ipv4 address.
[14:28] <lordievader> Linusnewb: The ipv6 address is: 2001:4860:4860::8888
[14:29] <Linusnewb> oh sorry ok... I have seen that yet thanks
[15:08] <jjeronimo> how do you restart kde wallet ?
[15:08] <jjeronimo> mine is not working
[15:08] <jjeronimo> if I reboot it's fixed
[15:08] <jjeronimo> tired of rebooting
[15:18] <jEhrichs> kquitapp kwalletd
[15:18] <jEhrichs> kwalletd
[15:18] <jEhrichs> could work
[15:40] <jjeronimo> jEhrichs,  thx but it's the same as closing the window
[15:40] <riccardone> Hi all
[15:46] <jjeronimo> jEhrichs, sorry, it works, thanks allot!
[15:46] <jjeronimo> a lot*
[15:51] <Riccardone> !ver
[15:53] <jjeronimo> !ver
[16:42] <roasted> anybody know of a way to make the top screen menubar show up on the top edge even if you have a top justified panel?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> roasted, do you mean the kicker?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> roasted, the kmenu ?
[17:29] <roasted> BluesKaj: no
[17:30] <roasted> BluesKaj: I have KDE laid out like Unity, so I have a panel at the top of the screen. If I use the "top screen menubar" feature, it doesn't go to the very top of the screen because the panel is there.
[17:34] <BluesKaj> roasted, can you add it as a widget in the top panel, try, menubar, in the add widget search
[17:35] <roasted> BluesKaj: I don't think it is a widget. It's a setting within system settings.
[17:35] <roasted> BluesKaj: yeah, just looked - not a widget
[17:35] <BluesKaj> it works in my panel , altho it'son the bottom
[17:35] <roasted> BluesKaj: right
[17:35] <roasted> BluesKaj: move the panel to the top and it won't
[17:36] <BluesKaj> weird
[17:36] <roasted> BluesKaj: it doesn't obey the screen edge vs the panel.
[17:36] <BluesKaj> the panel position shouldn't matter
[17:36] <roasted> it does
[17:36] <roasted> if it's on the top, the top screen menubar doesn't fly
[17:37] <roasted> http://ompldr.org/vaHF4Nw/topmenubar2.png http://ompldr.org/vaHF4Ng/topmenubar1.png
[17:37] <roasted> I have a transparent panel at the top.
[17:37] <BluesKaj> ok ,well ,I'm m not a top panel user, so i haven't encountered the problem
[17:37] <roasted> right
[17:37] <roasted> I get that
[17:37] <roasted> thanks
[17:38] <murthy> hello everyone
[17:38] <roasted> hello
[17:40] <BluesKaj> roasted, what about reseting the screen edges in sys settings> workspace behaviour?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> hi murthy
[17:41] <murthy> BluesKaj: hi, how are you today :)
[17:41] <roasted> BluesKaj: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking, as the screen edges have nothing to do with what I'm having issues with.
[17:41] <BluesKaj> fine murthy
[17:42] <BluesKaj> roasted, are you sure ?
[17:42] <roasted> BluesKaj: uh. yes. I am quite positive.
[17:42] <roasted> unless you know something I don't about screen edges
[17:44] <BluesKaj> roasted,, not really < ijust leave at the upper left default
[17:44] <BluesKaj> leave it
[17:45] <roasted> I changed mine to the upper right, as I use a panel on the left side
[17:54] <ubuntu____> help me
[17:54] <lordievader> What is your problem, ubuntu____?
[17:55] <ubuntu____> very very problems
[17:55] <lordievader> !ask | ubuntu____
[17:56] <ubuntu____> kde and kde sc what
[17:57] <ubuntu____> dsddddddddddddfffffffffffffffrtvvvvvvfee
[17:58] <Evil_Galith> ya qqu'un
[17:58] <ubuntu____> hobilik
[17:58] <ubuntu____> pilikçi teyze
[17:59] <lordievader> ubuntu____: Where are you from? Perhaps there is a support channel in your language.
[17:59] <ubuntu____> kopernikos talatesişfr
[18:00] <ubuntu____> lordievader where are you from
[18:00] <lordievader> !tr | ubuntu____
[18:00] <lordievader> There you go ;)
[18:01] <ubuntu____> not understand
[18:02] <lordievader> ubuntu____: You are from turkey right?
[18:03] <ubuntu____> not turkey africa
[18:03] <DarthFrog> ubuntu____: What is your preferred language?
[18:03] <ubuntu____> frogi
[18:04] <DarthFrog> Is that French?
[18:04] <lordievader> Hmm, the whois on your ip claims turkey.. oh well.
[18:04] <ubuntu____> ip clamims ?
[18:04] <lordievader> ubuntu____: Never mind, can you answer DarthFrog's question?
[18:04] <murthy> ubuntu____: language?
[18:13] <murthy> BluesKaj: i have removed my nvidia card due to the cold boot issues and now because of that high cpu usage when playing videos. My cpu is p4 ht and the internal gpu is intel gma x4500, my cpu is around 50% when playing 1080p videos
[18:13] <murthy> BluesKaj: i think i have installed the necessary drivers
[18:14] <murthy> BluesKaj: am i missing something or its the default cpu usage that we can expect from the internal gpu?
[18:15] <So1aris> Hi, can somebody assist me with an issue I'm having with Thunderbird in Kubuntu? (I'm also in mozilla's thunderbird channel waiting for a respose)
[18:16] <DarthFrog> murthy:  The nvidia card would have provided VDPAU if you were using the proprietary nvidia drivers, which would have off-loaded much of the processing from the CPU to the GPU.   1080p would require quite a bit of processing power without it.
[18:16] <BluesKaj> murthy, in a word , yes , onboard gpus don't have much dedicated memory so the cpu load can become quite high , but 50% is actually quite good for HD video
[18:18] <murthy> DarthFrog:  ya the nvidia card is performing well but i have cold boot issues with it. BluesKaj, thats sad, i think o got fooled by the specs that said it can play 720p, never thought it will be like this
[18:18] <BluesKaj> Nvidia cards have a setting , for taking more of the load than the default setting , maximum performance in the power mizer optiom ,but it doesn't hold on a reboot
[18:19] <murthy> BluesKaj: is there way to make grub reboot automatically to get a warmboot?
[18:19] <So1aris> Does anybody else here use Mozilla Thunderbird?
[18:20] <murthy> So1aris: I don't use thunderbird but i can try to help if you say the problem
[18:21] <BluesKaj> murthy, if by choosing a reboot in the leave dialog , then yes, I guess that's warm boot ..not sure what you mean otherwise
[18:21] <So1aris> murthy: Well, I'm trying to add a second account in thunderbird. The problem is that (and this has only occurred in Kubuntu so far), when I go into my account manager, and press the "Account Actions" button, it should give me options to add an account.
[18:21] <So1aris> But something is wrong. The button seems to be dead
[18:22] <So1aris> I click on it, and it doesn't do anything.
[18:22] <So1aris> I can't find a forum thread online where someone else is having this issue
[18:23] <murthy> BluesKaj: my requirement is , grub should restart the system when it finds its a coold boot
[18:23] <murthy> BluesKaj: *cold
[18:24] <DarthFrog> So1aris:  I run Tbird.  I'll have a look-see.
[18:24] <murthy> BluesKaj: is thunderbird a gtk app?
[18:24] <BluesKaj> So1aris, look in the t-bird , where you email address is located , click on it and you'll see the "create account" option
[18:25] <BluesKaj> just above your inbox
[18:26] <DarthFrog> So1aris:  Edit/Account Settings/Account Actions/Add Mail Account works for me.
[18:26] <BluesKaj> sorry murthy , i really don't understand what you mean , is grub not appearing when boot up ?
[18:26] <So1aris> well, this is interesting... it is working now. the only thing i changed was the app's skin. lol
[18:27] <DarthFrog> murthy:  You're being not clear at all.
[18:28] <So1aris> okay, well it seems to be fine now. if anyone else has this same issue, my guess is that it was probably gtk or something.
[18:28] <murthy> BluesKaj: i want grub to restart my computer when i start my computer for the first time in the morning
[18:28] <DarthFrog> murthy:  You press the Power button and GRUB comes up, right?
[18:28] <murthy> DarthFrog: YA
[18:28] <murthy> oops
[18:28] <DarthFrog> It's  been powered down overnight?
[18:28] <murthy> DarthFrog: ya
[18:29] <murthy> DarthFrog: ya
[18:29] <DarthFrog> How do you want to change this behaviour?
[18:29] <So1aris> I do have another curious question though... do any of you use skype? And if you do, are the notification sounds all screwed up for you?
[18:29] <murthy> DarthFrog: my gpu works only in a warm boot, tell me a solution by using grub
[18:29] <BluesKaj> I think grub must be set to 0 secs timeout
[18:29] <jEhrichs> So1aris: works like a charm here
[18:30] <murthy> BluesKaj: it is
[18:30] <DarthFrog> murthy:  Press CTL-ALT-Del.
[18:30] <murthy> DarthFrog: i want to automate that
[18:30] <BluesKaj> muthy then set it to greater than 0
[18:30] <BluesKaj> murthy,^
[18:31] <DarthFrog> murthy:  How is GRUB supposed to know how it was invoked?
[18:32] <DarthFrog> murthy: If you could automate it, you'd just go into a perpetual cycle of rebooting.
[18:33] <murthy> BluesKaj: the current settings for the grub is it doesn't have the timeout value so it stays till i select the operating system, so since my gpu doesn't work in cool boot, when i start my computer in the morning the screen is balck but the grub is running which i can't see and i just blindly press ctrl+alt+del to restart to get a warm boot and i see the grub
[18:33] <DarthFrog> Kind of like setting your default runlevel to 6. :-)
[18:33] <So1aris> For me, when I hear skype's notifications, it's really distorted for some reason. Any reason this could be?
[18:34] <murthy> DarthFrog: i think i saw somewhere that there is a way linux can provide the cold/warm boot info
[18:34] <BluesKaj> murthy, set this line to the number of secs that grub will appear, GRUB_TIMEOUT=X (number)
[18:34] <DarthFrog> murthy:  Have you checked your BIOS settings for video?
[18:35] <DarthFrog> murthy:  But if you don't boot into Linux, how can it provide the info?
[18:35] <DarthFrog> or is it something flagged at shutdown?
[18:35] <murthy> DarthFrog: ya, BluesKaj, that will be more a headache, since it will boot automatically to the default os after the set timeout
[18:36] <murthy> DarthFrog: sorry, i mean grub has a way to identifying the boot type?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> murthy, ok one question , do you see grub ?
[18:37] <murthy> BluesKaj: ya
[18:37] <murthy> oops
[18:37] <murthy> BluesKaj: wait
[18:37] <murthy> BluesKaj: for the first time?
[18:37] <DarthFrog> murthy: Personally, if it isn't an improper BIOS setting, I wouldn't find having to press CTL-ALT-Del much of a chore.  Mind you, I also only shut off my computer when I'm going out of town. :-)
[18:37] <BluesKaj> ok, I assumed from your questions that grub didn't appear , sorry
[18:37] <murthy> BluesKaj: for the first time, no , after reboot , yes
[18:38] <BluesKaj> then your bios is still set to the pci card that removed, murthy
[18:38] <murthy> DarthFrog: but i dont have a choice, the power suppy here is worst 2 hrs of power cut everyday
[18:39] <murthy> BluesKaj: no it is set to "use internal gpu when no pcie is detected"
[18:39] <DarthFrog> murthy:  Where is here?   And do you mean the power company cuts off power?
[18:39] <murthy> DarthFrog: yep , India
[18:40] <DarthFrog> Seriously not fun!
[18:40] <BluesKaj> yes, that's common in the sub continent, including sri lanka
[18:40] <murthy> DarthFrog: its like going into child birth daily
[18:41] <DarthFrog> That must screw up a lot of folks file systems.
[18:41] <murthy> DarthFrog:  no ups adds to that fun
[18:41] <DarthFrog> I'll bet.
[18:42] <murthy> BluesKaj: its been like this for the past 2 yrs
[18:42] <DarthFrog> Is the power shut-off predictable?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> UPSs are pricey tho
[18:42] <murthy> DarthFrog: ya, scheduled
[18:42] <murthy> BluesKaj: very much priced and lot of duplicates
[18:42] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  In murthy's case, it sounds like a necessity.
[18:42] <BluesKaj> yup
[18:43] <murthy> soon ops going to kick us
[18:43] <DarthFrog> Let's take this to off-topic.
[18:44] <BluesKaj> we used them in my lab worplace back in the 80s when the integrators we ran needed to be protected
[18:54] <murthy> So1aris: i just installed thunderbird, checking
[18:56] <progician> hello folks. I'm having a bit of a trouble with a 2 display setup. I have a vga connected monitor and an lg tv on hdmi. time to time when I turn on the tv, the display manager doesn't pick it up
[18:57] <progician> the tv shows no-input, and I have to switch resolution, and back to get it to 1920x1080 in Righ-of layout
[18:57] <So1aris> question: after downloading and putting in vpn credentials in the network manager, how do you start using the vpn itself?
[18:58] <So1aris> oh, nevermind, just found it
[19:01] <progician> I figure this has something to do with the suspend-to-hdd perhaps
[19:03] <murthy> progician: please wait here till someone sees your question and helps you
[19:42] <thechef> I want to upload my contacts to owncloud, so I move them to an owncloud addressbook in KAddressbook - but I don't see my contacts on the web now. I only see the contacts I add manually.
[19:53] <murthy> !new
[19:56] <murthy> thechef: have you tried asking in #kde ?
[19:59] <thechef> murthy: will do so
[20:02] <solaris_> so, I'm running apps in wine, and I want to change the wine window theme. But for some reason, it doesn't seem to work. I'm trying to use the ubuntu Ambience theme in it. It's in the list and I switch to it, but all that happens is it flashes and then stays with the windows theme.
[20:05] <lordievader> solaris_: Perhaps the people over in #winehq know?
[20:05] <murthy> lordievader: me try?
[20:05] <solaris_> ah ok. ill check with them. thanks
[20:05] <murthy> solaris_: me help?
[20:05] <lordievader> murthy: What?
[20:06] <murthy> lordievader: shall i try and help him?
[20:06] <murthy> solaris_: did you change the theme in wine configuration dialog?
[20:06] <lordievader> murthy: Sure go ahead, I know virtually nothing about wine...
[20:06] <solaris_> murthy: yes
[20:07] <murthy> lordievader: thats very good, we have to abandon it and erase it
[20:07] <murthy> solaris_:  you mean in wine configuration -> desktop integration ->  theme?
[20:08] <murthy> lordievader: no more windows stuff
[20:08] <solaris_> murthy: right, that's the one
[20:08] <murthy> solaris_:  you have some themes listed there?
[20:08] <solaris_> i have the ambience theme which I installed there, yes.
[20:09] <murthy> solaris_: let me try myself
[20:09] <murthy> solaris_: how did you install the theme?
[20:09] <solaris_> hold on
[20:09] <solaris_> i just tried it again and it applied this time. (lol! one of those days where something doesn't work until you ask help with it. O.o )
[20:10] <solaris_> ive since restarted my system since the last time i had tried it though so that's probably what it was
[20:11] <murthy> solaris_: it happens for me all the time :) particularly after i call the repair man
[20:11] <solaris_> lol
[20:12] <solaris_> you've still been more help than the other channels. they've all been pretty dead today.
[20:12] <solaris_> nobody active in #thunderbird or #winehq
[20:13] <murthy> solaris_:  here too, people are at coffee break, that's the reason for inactivity ;)
[20:14] <solaris_> ahh, i see
[20:14] <solaris_> btw, i forget how you properly reply back to an individual.
[20:14] <lordievader> It's weekend..
[20:14] <murthy> solaris_: thank you
[20:15] <solaris_> do you just type their name with the : by it or do you use a slash command?
[20:15] <BluesKaj> solaris_, start the first few letters of the ncick then use the tab key to finish
[20:15] <BluesKaj> err nick :)
[20:15] <solaris_> murthy: ahh i see
[20:15] <solaris_> ok cool
[20:16] <murthy> solaris_: you are new to linux?
[20:17] <solaris_> murthy: Not very new. probably lower intermediate skill
[20:18] <solaris_> murthy: im still sitting on ubuntu spins. maybe one day i'll explore off into mint, debian, maybe even build an arch.
[20:20] <murthy> solaris_:  cool, we have an #kubuntu-offtopic channel, come there when you find time and we can get to know us all, more activity there than here :D
[20:20] <solaris_> cool ok :)
[20:55] <ls> merhaba
[23:27] <murthy> me off to bed, good night all
[23:28] <valorie> !nick
[23:29] <valorie> !quiet
[23:29] <valorie> hmmm
[23:34] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[23:34] <ovidiu-florin> please help me with a vote on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/875075
[23:41] <ovidiu-florin> sorry, here's the original bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/848164
[23:56] <raul> hello all