[01:12] <mary_> I can't get unity to come up with any of the nvidia proprietary options. Gnome backup is fine and the drivers are running as I can bring up nvidia-settings without error. 13.04 with Geforce 7300 GS
[01:12] <mary_> Any Ideas?
[01:14] <mary_> All was fine until switch to 13.04
[01:14] <BluesKaj> mary_, I think nthe nvidia-current driver should work with your 7300 , install it then reboot
[01:16] <BluesKaj> in the terminal , sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  , mary_
[01:16] <captine> installing 13.04 to see if my blue mic will work reliably.  anyone here tried 13.04 and needed to go back to older version?
[01:17] <BluesKaj> mary_, then reboot
[01:19] <mary_> I've done that for each of the proprietary options including nvidia-current from the update manager and rebooted each time only to find no title or unity when logging into default ubuntu. I can control-alt-del and logout then successfully log in the the gnome fallback.
[01:20] <BluesKaj> mary_, how old is your pc , unity doesn't run well on pcs with RAM under 1G
[01:21] <BluesKaj> gnome is more stable and usable on older pcs
[01:21] <mary_> I can also right do right click operations on the blank screen. Just no bars. Dual core AMD with 4GB.
[01:22] <mary_> 64 bit version running
[01:23] <BluesKaj> hmm, then , "houston we have a problem" , mary_  I really can't understand what the issue might be. Have you checked the logs
[01:24] <BluesKaj> perhaps nomodeset
[01:24] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | mary_
[01:25] <mary_> Just to be clear, this is my daughters machine. I'm not mary. I,m Scott her dad and resident computer nut.
[01:26] <mary_> I,m=I'm
[01:27] <BluesKaj> you put linux on your daughter's pc ...heh so did I , and she loves it , scott , mary_ :)
[01:27] <mary_> I't all she has ever known.
[01:27] <mary_> i't=Its
[01:28] <BluesKaj> but odd that the -current driver isn't booting to the login gui
[01:28] <mary_> login is good desktop is no bars
[01:29] <mary_> I I chose a Gnome fallback session all is ok.
[01:29] <BluesKaj> my old geforce 7600 ran great on kde til it died of natural causes a few months back
[01:30] <mary_> Most of her games are educational and POCAP windows games under wine.
[01:30] <mary_> POCAP=POPCAP
[01:31] <BluesKaj> scott , I think gnome is your best bet , unity is buggy for older cards from what I've seen so far
[01:31] <BluesKaj> mary_, ^
[01:31] <mary_> Daddy's in the doghouse right now for upgrading and losing unity which she likes a great deal.
[01:32] <BluesKaj> unity is nice windoew dressing but gnome is a functional and proven desktop
[01:33] <mary_> It's what she is used to. She's only 5. But quite adept.
[01:37] <BluesKaj> cool
[01:37] <mary_> I suppose Cairo dock might be an option as well but the geek in me wants Unity to work. Does the no modeset option even make sense if its booting to lightdm.
[01:40] <BluesKaj> mary_, no if it's booting to lightdm then perhaps the default nouveau driver is your best bet. it's really quite a mature and versatile driver for most nvidia cards and should run Unity just fine.
[01:43] <BluesKaj> Nouveau is normally the default driver for nvidia cards on a new install , before any any proprietary "additional driver"'s are enabled
[01:46] <mary_> Last time i tried it the POPCAP wine games suffered a great deal. Time for another go I suppose. Thanks, hopefully this is only temporary if I experience stutters in her games.
[01:49] <BluesKaj> Scott , not being much of a gamer my experience there is really lacking so games are out of my area of expertise
[01:50] <BluesKaj> hey guys give us a hand here , stop lurking and join in !
[01:50] <BluesKaj> :P)
[01:51] <BluesKaj> the ubuntu+1 community is MIA
[01:56] <captine> has anyone been able to get a successful bootable disk from 13.04 daily builds
[01:57] <BluesKaj> yes , most have captine , unfortunately I'm not one of them
[01:57] <lunitik> captine: Yes, they have been very stable for me
[01:58] <BluesKaj> i have the amd64 HW recognition freeze problem
[01:59] <BluesKaj> ubiquity just stops ans spins at the partitioning phase
[05:45] <dr_willis> Howdy all..
[05:46] <dr_willis> anyone else notice the little spring-to-open a folder delay a bit so short in 13.04 nautilus? i can barely  drag/drop without accidently opening folders
[08:58] <jacobw> I dist-upgrade'd yesterday and now I have a phantom display to the right of my laptop display (1440*900) of 1024*768 which I can disable is still detected
[09:55] <Walther> Hello! Not getting a proper DE (unity) running, only partially. In Xorg.0.log, [    18.455] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[09:55] <Walther> I have nvidia-current installed
[10:12] <kjeldahl> Walther: nv is not the nvidia module; Nvidia's module is named "nvidia".
[10:12] <kjeldahl> nv is an open source alternative, with limited 3d support.
[10:14] <jacobw> Run 'nvidia-xconfig'
[12:00] <Dreaman> os[Linux 3.8.0-13-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "raring" 13.04] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.70GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 93.1% free] disk[Total: 926.3GB, 47.1% free] video[Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI]
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:40] <nonuby> odd thing, the brightness fn keys on my hp intel hda 4000 laptop work somewhat, the -ve works fine, however the +ve doesnt progress any further than ~25%
[13:44] <zAo^> How do I install Unity?
[14:32] <zAo^> How can I get the IM menu back?
[16:13] <jacobw> Is there a bug tracking the launcher losing track of LO windows?
[16:13] <jacobw> I see it most commonly with Writer, perhaps that's because what I use most often, but with Calc and Impress too.
[16:37] <Walther> Hi! I'm not getting a proper unity session running. On dpkg-reconfigure compiz, i get /var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz.config: 1: /var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz.config: [general]: not found
[16:37] <bazhang> in 13.04?
[16:46] <Walther> Yup, in 13.04
[16:47] <bazhang> Walther, then please keep the questions in this channel, as #ubuntu is only for releases up to 12.10
[16:51] <Walther> yeah, the thing is, i had the exact same problem with 12.10 as well, and I upgraded to raring as a last resort to try fix it
[16:51] <Walther> But yeah, help appreciated
[17:53] <Walther> Hi! I'm not getting a proper unity session running. On dpkg-reconfigure compiz, i get /var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz.config: 1: /var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz.config: [general]: not found
[18:00] <Walther> Any ideas on what may be causing this?
[18:01] <maxb> Walther: That sounds .... odd. Maybe pastebin the contents of the file named in the error?
[18:02] <maxb> Hmm, huh, the one on y system looks odd too
[18:02] <maxb> * my
[18:02] <Walther> maxb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5623075/
[18:02] <Walther> but yeah, I'm getting a full-res desktop but no panels / unity
[18:02] <maxb> WWhat on earth...
[18:03] <Walther> but otoh i *can* launch terminals with ctrl-alt-t
[18:03] <maxb> My file is the same as yours, but it's *supposed* to be a shell script !!!!!
[18:03] <Walther> and the terminals, oddly enough, get decorated bars
[18:04] <Walther> compositing works, i can move the windows
[18:04] <Walther> but e.g. virtual desktops don't work (can't change between) and I get no panels / unity
[18:05] <maxb> So, regarding that file, the compiz package is doing something dumb
[18:05] <maxb> However, since my system seems to be running Unity fine, I don't think that specifically is the cause of the problem
[18:05] <Walther> I also see in Xorg.0.log [    14.935] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)
[18:06] <Walther> but that shouldn't perhaps cause anything as I get a full-res view
[18:06] <Walther> no low-graphics mode
[18:07] <maxb> Perhaps you could try executing 'unity --replace' in a terminal and seeing if it logs anything interesting
[18:07] <Walther> What is the process / launcher for just the modern version of "gnome-panels", as in, the unity panels service
[18:10] <Walther> Hmm. Unity --replace causes the decorated bars and menus to dissappear, and makes me unable to interact with any windows
[18:10] <Walther> where are unity's logs?
[18:18] <Walther> Help still needed and greatly appreciated ;)
[18:19] <Walther> in .xsession-errors there's a line "compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded.
[18:19] <Walther> I wonder if this has anything to do with my issues
[18:21] <maxb> Unfortunately you've exhausted my knowledge of unity-related debugging
[18:23] <Walther> eep.
[18:23] <Walther> Oh, nice
[18:23] <Walther> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && setsid unity
[18:23] <Walther> --> reset all confs related to unity, works now
[18:28] <maxb> bug 1156294 filed about the dpkg-reconfigure thing
[18:37] <penguin42> anyone finding anything odd in calc on Libreoffice copy/paste ?
[18:37] <penguin42> if I copy a cell and paste it to a range it tries to do a text import
[18:56] <cprofitt> hello all...
[18:57] <cprofitt> recent update has xrandr detecting that the VGA is connected when there is no VGA monitor connected to my laptop
[19:01] <cprofitt> I am curious if anyone has an idea about this...
[19:01] <cprofitt> searching launchpad and the forums have yielded nothing so far
[19:26] <cprofitt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1156310
[19:27] <cprofitt> ended up reporting my own bug
[21:15] <thehumanelement> Does anyone know why Skype doesn't work right now?
[21:15] <thehumanelement> Have I borked i386 on my AMD64 somehow?
[21:15] <thehumanelement> it just coredumps
[21:18] <Kow> thehumanelement, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2125050
[21:20] <thehumanelement> awesome, will try that
[21:24] <thehumanelement> " package libqtwebkit4:i386 2.2.1-4ubuntu1 cannot be configured because libqtwebkit4:amd64 is at a different version (2.3-0ubuntu8)"
[21:24] <thehumanelement> why does that matter?
[21:36] <jtaylor> does downgrading both work?
[21:42] <thehumanelement> yeah, sorry, I have a shit load of tabs open
[21:42] <thehumanelement> that worked
[21:42] <thehumanelement> bit of a faff
[21:42] <thehumanelement> maybe even downloading one would have worked, but I didn't try that
[21:42] <thehumanelement> thanks for your help
[21:43] <thehumanelement> does anyone know why Empathy doesn't have IRC and why Pidgin doesn't work? Not that I've got anything against this XChat but it's a bit grumpy and I generally just use Empathy
[21:43] <thehumanelement> WTF, Pidgin works now
[21:46] <thehumanelement> another issue, I don't know if anyone can help me with this, is that my Microsoft account is "stuck" - it doesn't work, so once I tried to disable it and now I can't delete it. So I added it again to make it work and now I have two entries for the same account
[21:55] <thehumanelement> okay, thanks guys, laters
[21:59] <ironhalik> hmm, so I'm missing version.h in kernel 3.8.0-12-generic
[21:59] <ironhalik> can't install latest fglrx beta due to this
[21:59] <ironhalik> am I doing something wrong?
[22:01] <ironhalik> output after trying to make kernel module
[22:01] <ironhalik> kernel includes at /lib/modules/3.8.0-13-generic/build/include not found or incomplete
[22:05] <bjsnider> ironhalik, that would be in the corresponding linux-headers package for that kernel
[22:07] <ironhalik> yeah, I've got kernel-headers installed, ofcourse
[22:07] <ironhalik> for the 3.8.0-13 version
[22:08] <ironhalik> thats the problem :)
[22:31] <Kow_> ironhalik, um what version of fglrx are you trying to build?
[22:43] <MoPac> I'm having a lot of trouble prioritizing a package origin in raring -- could someone help with sources.list and /apt/preferences ?  I want a ppa version INSTEAD of a universe version.  But even after putting the ppa at the top of sources.list and putting the ppa URL as a pin in a preferences file, I can't elevate it over the universe version
[22:52] <Kow_> MoPac, I would use apt-add-repository instead of modifying sources.list yourself
[22:52] <MoPac> Well, doing that just created a sources.d file
[22:53] <Kow_> i always add a ppa with add-apt-repository and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:53] <MoPac> But it shouldn't matter, right?  In any case, this guide was leading me to believe that it was important to put it first in sources.list http://askubuntu.com/questions/135339/assign-highest-priority-to-my-local-repository
[22:54] <MoPac> Kow_: But the problem here is that Ubuntu still wants to use the Universe version
[22:54] <Kow> MoPac, is the version in the PPA older than universe?
[22:54] <MoPac> Kow: It's hard to tell -- it probably is.  I want to force it to use the ppa
[22:56] <MoPac> In other words, when I apt-cache policy libreoffice, and the two sources come up, I want the "500" next to the ppa to be a higher number, and I want that one on top
[22:58] <MoPac> (in fact, I guess I want the number to be at least 1001, so it will force even if version older)
[23:00] <Kow> MoPac, did you set the Pin-Priority in /etc/apt/preferences?