[02:09] <mr_gees100_peas> hi, I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. If i leave the computer unused for a while the wired connection drops and it can't recover. I have to restart the system to get the connection back.
[02:16] <mr_gees100_peas> no one?
[02:18] <javanic> hello
[02:18] <mr_gees100_peas> hello
[02:19] <javanic> what's happening?
[02:19] <mr_gees100_peas> a couple of questions.
[02:19] <javanic> ok
[02:19] <mr_gees100_peas> 1st off how do I direct a message to a particular person so that they know I am talking to them?
[02:20] <javanic> well you can private message a person...
[02:20] <mr_gees100_peas> hhmmm
[02:21] <mr_gees100_peas> Well, since there is nobody else then I can get to the real question.
[02:21] <javanic> i don't know that i'll be able to help you... but shoot
[02:22] <mr_gees100_peas> WHen I leave the system alone for too long the wired internet connection drops (disconnects) but it will not recover even when I tell it to do so.
[02:22] <javanic> are you connected to wifi?
[02:23] <mr_gees100_peas> nope. it is an ethernet cable.
[02:23] <mr_gees100_peas> I have a PS3 running and a windows xp machine that do not exhibit this problem.
[02:23] <javanic> best i can suggest to you would be to go to your internet connection settings and see if it is set to sleep after a certain amount of time or something
[02:24] <javanic> i don't know about the settings in ubuntu... i was coming here to ask questions about switching from pclos to ubuntu lmao
[02:24] <mr_gees100_peas> what is pclos?
[02:25] <javanic> pc linux os
[02:25] <javanic> it's another distro.. not as mainstream as ubuntu
[02:25] <javanic> the other thing you can do is to log onto your router and see if the settings are off there..
[02:25] <mr_gees100_peas> why do you want to switch?
[02:26] <javanic> mine does the same thing, but it's because i'm connected directly to a repeater
[02:26] <javanic> i'm having a hard time getting updates in pclos and the support community sucks ass
[02:26] <mr_gees100_peas> yes, that is a good reason to switch.
[02:26] <javanic> everytime i try to do an update it says that some files can't be downloaded and such
[02:27] <mr_gees100_peas> Since I'm new to all of this, the first thing I did is look for a distro that has a lot of support.
[02:27] <javanic> and when i go into konsole and try to do an apt-get install... it pretty much just says no lol
[02:27] <mr_gees100_peas> I saw that ubuntu gets a lot of support both from the community and development. If it comes to linux then ubuntu is more likely to get support first.
[02:27] <javanic> i've been playing with linux for years... but there is still so much i don't know. mostly in konsole.
[02:28] <javanic> that's because how many people have it
[02:28] <javanic> which is why i want it lol
[02:28] <javanic> i just burnt the 12.10 iso
[02:29] <javanic> did you have any problems when you installed?
[02:29] <phillw> javanic: always ensure you md5 checksum any iso you download
[02:29] <phillw> !md5
[02:30] <mr_gees100_peas> no. I have installed ubuntu 3 times in 2 different machines and I have had no trouble installing it at all.
[02:30] <javanic> i don't know what that is.. and i'm in linux already, just another distro
[02:30] <mr_gees100_peas> It is pretty strait forward. It asks you to choose the partition size, language and time zone and I think that was about it.
[02:31] <mr_gees100_peas> oh, and if you want to include some proprietary drivers.
[02:34] <javanic> well that's a relief lol
[02:34] <phillw> mr_gees100_peas: it may be that your system does not support PAE (or it does and not advertise it when it is asked)?
[02:35] <mr_gees100_peas> The one thing that might throw you off is the unity interface. It works very different than any other distro.
[02:35] <javanic> what do you mean unity interface?
[02:35] <mr_gees100_peas> What is "PAE"?
[02:36] <mr_gees100_peas> on most OS you have the equivalent of the start button at the bottom of the screen
[02:36] <mr_gees100_peas> In Ubuntu you have icons on the left side of the screen.
[02:37] <mr_gees100_peas> You can launch applications using the icons or you can use the "DASH" which you can call by pressing the window button and then typing the name of the application
[02:37] <phillw> mr_gees100_peas: you are asking about the look and feel? I thought the issue was that it will not run?
[02:37] <mr_gees100_peas> Its hard to explain. Once you see it you will understand right away.
[02:38] <mr_gees100_peas> #phillw. My original question was that when the system suspends after being idle I loose my internet connection
[02:38] <phillw> mr_gees100_peas: what system are you used to? Win XP / Vista / MacOSX ?
[02:38] <mr_gees100_peas> Windows Xp
[02:39] <phillw> okies, then ubuntu is a very different system.
 i'm using pclinuxos right now, is the layout of ubuntu similar? or am i going to have to re-learn everything?
[02:40] <mr_gees100_peas> javanic: I don't think the learning curve is hard at all. It just looks different.
[02:40] <mr_gees100_peas> It is pretty intuitive.
[02:40] <javanic> what about updates and installing software?
[02:41] <phillw> mr_gees100_peas: suspending and hibernation in ubuntu has always been an issue, but if you have a computer that ran XP, you may want to try lxle. It does not over steatch the resources that such a computer has.
[02:41] <mr_gees100_peas> there is an utility called ubuntu software center. You click on it and a gui opens up. Then you type the name of the software you want and it shpws you the name and other info like reviews, version etc. You then press the install button and ubuntu takes care of the rest.
[02:41] <mr_gees100_peas> You can also used the command line
[02:42] <javanic> ok, so same deal as pclos
[02:43] <javanic> ok.. so what about partitioning. how should that be done? or is there somewhere i can read all about it...
[02:44] <phillw> javanic:coming  from XP, just use the guided system... E.g do as it suggests unless you have a good reason not to do so.
[02:44] <javanic> i'm not in xp.. i'm in linux
[02:46] <phillw> javanic: in that case, unless you have reason not to do, accept the default :)
[02:47] <phillw> I have seperate /home and do not encrypt stuff... but that is my choice :)
[02:51] <javanic> so should i save the os on a separate partition and have the rest for storage?
[02:52] <mr_gees100_peas> well, guys I'm off. Enjoy your evening
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> *test
[17:18] <freebee> hi, someone available?
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> freebee, this channel works with forming a question to find out, ;)
[17:19] <freebee> why can't I see any conversation going on?
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> freebee, no ones communicating
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> *one's
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu is a bit busier
[17:20] <freebee> then why are there so many users in the channel
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> freebee, many stay idle, if you look at the #ubuntu channel it shows over 1800 users many idling, some just roll that way
[17:21] <freebee> ah i see,
[17:21] <freebee> i'll try ubuntu then
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> enjoy ;)
[17:22] <freebee> thnx very much
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[17:22] <Unit193> If you are just looking to talk to people, #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:22] <freebee> ok thnx for the tip
[17:23] <freebee> have nice day
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> you to
[23:32] <flubab> it functions fine as the only monitor in windows 8, and it functions fine as the primary monitory in a dual monitor setup in ubuntu...it just doesn't work as the ONLY monitor in ubuntu
[23:32] <flubab> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop, and for some reason I can't use the laptop screen WITHOUT an external monitor; it functions fine as the only monitor in windows 8, and it functions fine as the primary monitory in a dual monitor setup in ubuntu...it just doesn't work as the ONLY monitor in ubuntu. Any ideas?
[23:35] <duanedesign> that seems very odd
[23:35] <flubab> it makes me sad
[23:35] <duanedesign> UNder displays you may need to Detect displays after you change your setup
[23:36] <flubab> well, if I disconnect the external monitor (or disable it in the settings), the laptop screen turns off
[23:37] <duanedesign> hmmm
[23:38] <duanedesign> you may post a question on http://askubuntu.com/  that will get a lot of eyes on the issue
[23:43] <flubab> i did, thanks
[23:45] <phillw> flubab: and, as some people now hate the ubuntu forums, you may also seek information at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334  :)