[04:33] <micahg> cjohnston: if you want to verify Bug #1153822 , I'd be happy to upload
[06:03] <micahg> Laney: hipmunk doesn't work with ghc 7.6.2, mind if I just file a removal request?  (even with the new 5.2.0.10 and a hacked cabal for the deps in 7.6.2)
[11:04] <Laney> micahg: yes, I do mind. In general I want to fix things if possible rather than remove them, and hipmunk is a rather simple case
[11:06] <Laney> the llvms might be a more interesting one to look at
[14:09] <cjohnston> micahg: bug #1153822 is confirmed.. /me needs a better way to follow up with bugs he filed.. heh.. I'd done the work the next day, just never remembered to go back.. I guess I could have assigned it to myself.
[16:48] <micahg> cjohnston: well, marking the stuff off in the description is what I meant
[16:48] <micahg> Laney: that's why I asked :), there are ghc llvms?
[16:49] <cjohnston> micahg: yup.. I was just saying i need a way to remember to follow up on that stuff
[16:52] <Laney> micahg: haskell-llvm-*
[16:53] <Laney> s/-\*/\*/
[16:54] <micahg> hrm, ok
[16:54] <Laney> I think needs some adjustment to work with whatever llvm version we have atm
[16:55] <Laney> I seem to recall doing that before, maybe
[16:55] <micahg> ok, I won't get a chance to look until later this week though, already have a pile of stuff to do today
[16:55] <Laney> sure
[16:56] <Laney> I think if you ignore stuff-to-be-removed the situation is quite tractable
[16:56] <micahg> ok
[17:08] <jtaylor> ScottK: is the pyqt list moderated? my mail does not seem to have arrived yet :/
[17:08] <ScottK> No.
[17:08] <jtaylor> strange
[17:08] <ScottK> Are you sure you sent from the address you're subscribed from?
[17:09] <jtaylor> I'm not subscribed
[17:20] <ScottK> It's probably moderated then.
[18:38] <Rhonda> A neighbour of mine would like to install 10.04 onto a system that is only capable of CD images, not DVD.  And he told me that the only images he found were too big for his CDs to record to?
[18:39] <Rhonda> erm, 12.04 of course
[18:43] <jtaylor> Rhonda: network install is an option
[18:43] <jtaylor> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/12.04/
[18:44] <TheLordOfTime> what, they can't USB boot?
[18:44] <TheLordOfTime> is the system that old?  (just saying)
[18:47] <Rhonda> No, usb boot not possible, and strangely, he said that network install would take ages.
[18:47] <Rhonda> But now that I looked, the images are all below 700 megs, so I'm uncertain what his actual issue was. :)
[18:48] <jtaylor> I doubt 12.04 will run good on such a machine
[18:48] <TheLordOfTime> agreed with jtaylor
[18:48] <TheLordOfTime> if the system is as it is described, Ubuntu 12.04 probably won't run well.
[18:48] <TheLordOfTime> *maybe* Lubuntu will, but...
[18:48] <TheLordOfTime> that's still a "maybe"
[18:49] <Rhonda> usb boot isn't supported everywhere, and a lot of systems might run properly with 12.04 even if they don't have usb boot.
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> that wasn't our point?
[18:49] <Rhonda> Then I have no clue what your point was.
[18:49] <Rhonda> Because from what you wrote your point clearly was "no usb boot? is it that old?"
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> that was MY statement
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> not jtaylor's
[18:50] <Rhonda> At least that's what I perceived.
[18:50] <TheLordOfTime> fine, so everyone in the ubuntu place is calling me out on my mis-speaks.
[18:50]  * TheLordOfTime walks off to bugs triaging, which doesn't require as much interaction with people.
[18:50] <Rhonda> "on such machine", what's that then?  I can just guess he also responded to your "no usb boot, that old" statement, I don't see any other reference to "on such a machine" that would make sense to me?
[18:51] <jtaylor> what kind of a machine is it?
[18:51] <Rhonda> All I know is that it can't usb boot, and that it has a cd drive, not a dvd one.
[18:52] <Unit193> I've noted that BIOS upgrades can give you the USB booting support, at times.  Lubuntu is more lightweight, but if you go mini+openbox, it's lighter.  AntiX and slitaz are really lightweight, though.
[18:52] <Rhonda> … which to me isn't much information for guessing whether 12.04 would run properly or not. :)
[18:52] <Unit193> You can use plop to boot of a USB drive by jumping off CD.
[18:52] <jtaylor> no, but it is a good clue
[18:52] <jtaylor> the last machine I had that couldn't boot usb is about 10 years old
[18:52] <jtaylor> I wouldn't want to run 12.04 on uit, it was already strugling with 08.04
[18:53] <Rhonda> I wasn't able to get usb boot working on my thinkpad E525.
[18:53] <Rhonda> Given the troubles with usb boot that I had all around, I don't consider usb boot any reasonable clue. :)
[18:54] <Unit193> 11/01/2004 computer didn't support it until I flashed the BIOS.
[18:54] <Rhonda> I doubt that he was speaking about a 10 year old machine.
[18:54] <Rhonda> But thanks for the responses anyway.
[19:57]  * ScottK has computers running 12.04 that don't support USB boot that run it fine.