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* Kilos waves10:37
* Cantide tsunamis10:37
Squirmmorning11:13
Kiloshi11:15
Vince-0Hi!11:55
Vince-0busy checking out ubuntu weekly newsletter, they're looking for summary writers and editors:11:56
Vince-0http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=780611:56
Kiloshi Vince-0 11:56
Vince-0Hi Kilos 12:12
=== jeandre is now known as theblazehen
theblazehenhi all14:18
Cantidehello '-'/14:19
theblazehenJust installed fbterm, oh-my-zsh and the agnoste zsh theme :)14:19
theblazehenreally need to change my fbterm font14:20
Cantide>_>14:20
theblazehenyou use any of these thnigs?14:21
* Squirm looks around14:21
theblazehenSquirm: why?14:21
Squirmcause ya'll boring14:21
* Squirm leaves14:21
theblazehenok :(14:21
Squirm:P14:22
theblazehennow if only the terminal had notifications...14:23
* Cantide doesn't use any of them14:23
Cantidetheblazehen, can you screenshot it?14:23
theblazehensure.14:23
theblazehenhttp://imgur.com/LyhFOAq14:27
theblazehenlCantide: like it?14:30
theblazehenCantide: like it?14:30
Cantidei got a 404 :<14:31
Cantide" If you're looking for an image, then it's probably been deleted or may not have existed at all. Bummer! "14:31
theblazehenMusta typed it wrong...14:31
Cantidewas i too slow?14:31
theblazehennope14:31
theblazehenhttp://imgur.com/LyhF0Aq14:32
theblazehentry that one14:32
theblazehenthink i mixed up 0 and O14:32
Cantidewow14:33
Cantidethat looks very minimalistic :)14:33
Cantidemust be great for memory usage :)14:33
theblazehenyea :) thanks14:39
Cantidei like my gui too much :<14:40
Cantidebut i like keyboard shortcuts, too :)14:40
theblazehenCantide: which DE do you use?14:41
theblazehenI thinking of using openbox for GUI stuff.14:41
CantideUnity14:41
Cantidei've grown to like it14:41
theblazehenYea... I tried ubuntu touch and liked it. If i had a fatster pc I would also  use it  think14:42
Cantidei hated it at first14:42
Cantidebecause of the extra clicks needed to get things done14:42
Cantidebut with the keyboard it's nice14:42
Cantideand there are cool things like the hud14:43
theblazehenI feel the same. At least you can use the keyboard14:43
Cantideand dash14:43
theblazehenyea14:43
theblazehenyea14:43
theblazehendon't really like nautilus though.14:43
theblazehenWish there were packages for arch linux14:43
Cantidehehe14:44
Cantidethe only problem i have with nautilus is that it's a bit heavy and slow14:45
Cantideother than that i like it14:45
theblazehenCan't give up on the rolling release ... :(14:45
theblazehenCantide: Ever try thunar ?14:45
Cantidei'm glad they didn't stick with current nautilus14:45
Cantideyeah, but i don't like the look of thunar14:45
Cantideit doesn't match the rest of the OS14:45
theblazehenok.Whatdo you mean by current nautilus ?14:45
Cantideumm14:46
Cantidei forget the version numbers14:46
Cantidebut recently nautilus stripped out a lot of functionality14:46
theblazehenok14:46
Cantidelike F3 for split view14:46
Cantideand tree view14:46
theblazehenok :)14:46
Cantidecanonical decided to fork the previous version (before these things were removed)14:46
theblazehentree view is nice.14:47
Cantideyeah, i like it, too14:47
Cantidei think Nautilus is aiming for a more touch-friendly interface14:47
theblazehenthought mint forked it?14:47
Cantidebut grrr.. i like my desktop as a desktop14:47
Cantidehmm14:47
Cantidethey could have, too14:47
theblazehenYea. on arch it has no window decoration14:47
theblazehenCantide: same14:47
Cantidei was tempted by Arch14:48
Cantidebut i like the direction that Ubuntu is taking14:48
Cantideso i want to stick with it14:48
theblazehenCantide: You should really try it out,  even in a VM14:49
theblazehenCantide: which direction ?14:49
theblazehenI prefer the arch Way14:49
CantideGir + ubuntu touch + convergence14:49
CantideUbuntu may have rolling releases between LTS versions14:49
Cantidewhich i think is the best of both worlds14:50
theblazehenOh... I prefer the simplicity of arch14:50
Cantideoh?14:50
Cantidei thought Arch was a bit difficult to set up14:50
Cantidebut i haven't tried it :p14:50
theblazehenCantide: Yea, might end up quite good14:50
Cantidegoing to watch the cricket on TV14:50
Cantidei think we just took another wicket14:50
theblazehenCantide: It is not difficult as much as requiring you to type lots14:50
Cantidebbl :)14:50
theblazehenok14:50
Cantideah14:50
theblazehenbye :)14:50
Cantidewell, i'm sure with a good guide such as the wiki it will be easier :)14:51
theblazehenYea :) even my newbie to linux set it up. The day after I told him about linux14:51
theblazehenfriend that is a newbie *14:51
Cantide:)14:52
theblazehenHe configured it with openbox :)14:52
theblazehenthen mate14:52
theblazehenhi Kilos 15:05
Kiloshi theblazehen your buddy has been here15:05
theblazehenAwesome :)15:06
theblazehendid he stay and chat15:06
theblazehen?15:06
Kiloshas now installed mate on his arch15:06
Kilosyeah we chatted lots15:06
theblazehenYea :)15:06
theblazehenawesome :15:06
theblazehen)15:06
Kiloshehe15:06
Kilosits james hey?15:06
theblazehenyea15:07
Kilosboth better be here for the meeting  tomorrow night hey15:07
Kilos19.3015:07
theblazehenok15:07
theblazehenI'll be there15:07
Kiloswhy arch and not ubuntu?15:08
theblazehenHe wanted to learn, and i figurede arch would make him learn15:08
theblazehenthinnk he likes it15:08
Kiloslol its mate he likes15:08
theblazehenYea.15:09
Kilosim using it on lubuntu as well but its not as good as old gnome2 in ubuntu 10.1015:10
theblazehenCan't believe how much he likes it.  Completely unthemed15:10
Kiloslol15:10
theblazehenyea. Perhaps you can get an old ubuntu iso and grab the files ?15:10
Kilosmate has rewritten everything i think15:10
theblazehendo you by any chance use fbterm?15:10
Kilosin synaptic all the other stuff dont show 15:11
theblazehenIt is a fork of gnome215:11
Kilosnope whats that?15:11
Kilosyes fork of gnome215:11
theblazehenterminal for framebuffer. No need for Xorg15:11
Kilospeeps that didnt wanna go unity15:11
theblazehenKilos: apparently the gnome team don't want them using the old names15:12
theblazehenok15:12
Kilosyeah its changed lots and i think actually gone back a bit. gnome2 was kiff15:12
theblazehenyea15:13
Kilosunity is like olives and whiskey, you gotta force yourself to get used to it15:13
Kiloshehe15:13
theblazehenlol. Why not just use alternative DE? have a look at fuduntu15:14
Kilosive tried kde which i enjoy and xfce which isnt too hot and lubuntu which i fixed with mate15:15
theblazehenok15:15
Kilosunity and kde are good now15:15
theblazehenfuduntu is mate distro. Ever try cinnamon?15:15
theblazehenyea15:15
Kilosbut stupid unity 12.04 wont see 3g modem so i gave up on it15:16
Kilosnope15:16
theblazehenKilos: and 12.10 does right?15:16
Kilosyeah15:16
theblazehenever think of trying another modem?15:16
Kilosbut i got 5 gig of 12.04 archives 15:16
theblazehenohh...15:17
Kiloswill try when my son comes to visit maybe15:17
theblazehenok15:17
Kilosso installs dont use much bandwidth15:17
theblazehenyea15:17
Kiloswas planning on staying 12.04 for the full 5 years15:18
theblazehenreally? end of LTS right?15:18
Kilosyeah15:18
theblazehenok15:18
Kilosi still have 10.10 maverick running on 2 drives on another pc as well15:19
theblazehenok15:19
Kilosi like the option of right click format of usb disks and the easy rename while formatting15:19
theblazehenyea15:20
Kilosdunno why they dropped that15:20
theblazehenok15:20
Kilosdisk utility isnt the answer15:20
theblazehenbusy downloading paln9 :)15:20
Kiloswhats that?15:20
theblazehendifferent kind of unix.15:21
theblazehenmade for distributed computing15:21
Kilosoh have you joined our mailing list yet?15:21
Kiloswb Vince-0 15:22
theblazehenyea :)_15:22
Kilosgood15:22
Vince-0thanks, router reboots15:22
Kiloswhat is distributed computing15:23
theblazehenlike load spread over multiple computers15:24
Kilosoh15:24
theblazehenyep15:25
Vince-0whatcha distributing?15:28
theblazehenthe desktop15:29
theblazehenlol15:29
Vince-0howso? 15:29
theblazehenhave one xterm on one machine and firefox running on 2 others :)15:30
theblazehennot sure yet. Still downloading rthe iso15:30
Squirmnuvolari: quadcopter takes it out of you15:31
* Squirm yawns15:31
Kiloshehe you supposed to work it with the controls not run down the road holding it up in the air15:55
Kilossorry Squirm 15:55
theblazehenlol15:57
magespawnevening all16:00
theblazehenhi magespawn 16:00
Kiloshey magespawn 16:02
magespawni will have to have a look at paln916:02
magespawnwhats up?16:02
magespawnbesides quacopters16:03
Kilosnot much16:03
magespawnor quadcopters16:03
Kilospoor Squirmy has collapsed on the bed methinks16:03
magespawnhappy st patricks day16:04
theblazehenhi all16:41
Kiloswhere you went?16:48
Kilosoh im not seeing join/parts16:50
* Kilos wonders why16:52
superfly8 cores is 5 more than my PC has...16:54
Kiloswhew what wants so many superfly ?16:54
Kilosthats like xboxes16:54
superflyKilos: the new Samsung Galaxy S4 phone16:55
superflyit actually has 2 quad-core processors16:55
Kiloswhew fones are advancing too fast16:55
superflyand ARM7 and an ARM1516:55
Kilosall in a little fone?16:55
superflyit's Samsung, they were already ahead of Apple with the S3, and they're proving that they are ahead of the game with the S416:55
Kilospcs dropping behind16:56
superflyPCs dropped behind about a year ago16:56
superflymy phone pretty much has better specs than my PC16:57
Kilosi wonder if one can use 2 motherboards in one pc16:57
Kilospity they so small hey?16:57
Kilosimaging a pc with that performance16:58
superflyKilos: no, you don't use 2 motherboards in 1 pc, you use a motherboard built to take more than one processor17:01
Kilosah ty17:01
Kilosfamily well superfly ?17:02
superflyKilos: and the fact is that a multicore processor is much faster than multiple single core processors17:02
superflythe cores can communicate internally whereas the multiple processors have to communicate with each other via the motherboard17:02
superflyyeah17:02
superflyanyway, talking of family, need to get back to them17:03
bmg505hello17:31
bmg505how the hell do I set locale in 12.04 to have a dot instead of this brain dead comma?17:31
Kiloshi bmg505 17:41
bmg505lo17:42
bmg505it feels like 12.04 is a step closer to being a perfect emulation of loosedoze17:42
Kilosai!17:43
Kilosunity?17:43
bmg505yea ffs and I keep getting crash notifications17:43
Kiloswhat does it say crashed?17:43
Kilosmagespawn: you the unity man today17:44
Kilosbmg505: when it gives the notifications does it wanna send error reports too17:45
magespawni am? don't really use it on my personal machines17:45
magespawnhttps://www.eff.org/pages/tor-and-https something to think about17:45
Kiloslol i tried. dunno who here is using unity17:45
Kilosim on kde17:46
magespawni think Squirm  and Cantide use it17:46
bmg505my slackware boxen runs kde, and it beats the shit out of this gnome crap17:47
KilosSquirm: is on mint mate i think17:47
Kilosmaybe maiatoday 17:48
magespawnbmg505: maybe have a look here http://askubuntu.com/questions/21316/how-can-i-customize-a-system-locale 17:49
magespawndo not know the answer off hand myself17:49
bmg505I don't know who had the brain wave to change it to a freaking ,17:50
magespawnseems some people prefer it that way, or so it seems, so 'they' decided to set it as a default17:52
superflya comma is the SA standard, but the world operates on US, so a dot is used more often (even SA) for practical reasons18:35
KilosMaaz: announce Meeting tomorrow night peeps. try be here please.18:52
MaazAnnouncement from Kilos! Meeting tomorrow night peeps. try be here please18:52
Kilosinetpro: waar is jy?18:52
Kilosnight all.sleep tight19:24
Squirmevening19:30
Vince-0naand19:36
magespawni am also off, good night all19:38
Vince-0me2 cya19:48
inetproMaaz: tell Kilos I'm here as usual19:52
Maazinetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode19:52
inetproand here is wherever I am at any point in time19:53
inetprogood evening19:53
bmg505Maaz: tell Kilos I might not make the meeting20:00
Maazbmg505: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode20:00
Squirmgnight20:06
inetproSquirm: good night20:08
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