=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [10:37] * Kilos waves [10:37] * Cantide tsunamis [11:13] morning [11:15] hi [11:55] Hi! [11:56] busy checking out ubuntu weekly newsletter, they're looking for summary writers and editors: [11:56] http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=7806 [11:56] hi Vince-0 [12:12] Hi Kilos === jeandre is now known as theblazehen [14:18] hi all [14:19] hello '-'/ [14:19] Just installed fbterm, oh-my-zsh and the agnoste zsh theme :) [14:20] really need to change my fbterm font [14:20] >_> [14:21] you use any of these thnigs? [14:21] * Squirm looks around [14:21] Squirm: why? [14:21] cause ya'll boring [14:21] * Squirm leaves [14:21] ok :( [14:22] :P [14:23] now if only the terminal had notifications... [14:23] * Cantide doesn't use any of them [14:23] theblazehen, can you screenshot it? [14:23] sure. [14:27] http://imgur.com/LyhFOAq [14:30] lCantide: like it? [14:30] Cantide: like it? [14:31] i got a 404 :< [14:31] " If you're looking for an image, then it's probably been deleted or may not have existed at all. Bummer! " [14:31] Musta typed it wrong... [14:31] was i too slow? [14:31] nope [14:32] http://imgur.com/LyhF0Aq [14:32] try that one [14:32] think i mixed up 0 and O [14:33] wow [14:33] that looks very minimalistic :) [14:33] must be great for memory usage :) [14:39] yea :) thanks [14:40] i like my gui too much :< [14:40] but i like keyboard shortcuts, too :) [14:41] Cantide: which DE do you use? [14:41] I thinking of using openbox for GUI stuff. [14:41] Unity [14:41] i've grown to like it [14:42] Yea... I tried ubuntu touch and liked it. If i had a fatster pc I would also use it think [14:42] i hated it at first [14:42] because of the extra clicks needed to get things done [14:42] but with the keyboard it's nice [14:43] and there are cool things like the hud [14:43] I feel the same. At least you can use the keyboard [14:43] and dash [14:43] yea [14:43] yea [14:43] don't really like nautilus though. [14:43] Wish there were packages for arch linux [14:44] hehe [14:45] the only problem i have with nautilus is that it's a bit heavy and slow [14:45] other than that i like it [14:45] Can't give up on the rolling release ... :( [14:45] Cantide: Ever try thunar ? [14:45] i'm glad they didn't stick with current nautilus [14:45] yeah, but i don't like the look of thunar [14:45] it doesn't match the rest of the OS [14:45] ok.Whatdo you mean by current nautilus ? [14:46] umm [14:46] i forget the version numbers [14:46] but recently nautilus stripped out a lot of functionality [14:46] ok [14:46] like F3 for split view [14:46] and tree view [14:46] ok :) [14:46] canonical decided to fork the previous version (before these things were removed) [14:47] tree view is nice. [14:47] yeah, i like it, too [14:47] i think Nautilus is aiming for a more touch-friendly interface [14:47] thought mint forked it? [14:47] but grrr.. i like my desktop as a desktop [14:47] hmm [14:47] they could have, too [14:47] Yea. on arch it has no window decoration [14:47] Cantide: same [14:48] i was tempted by Arch [14:48] but i like the direction that Ubuntu is taking [14:48] so i want to stick with it [14:49] Cantide: You should really try it out, even in a VM [14:49] Cantide: which direction ? [14:49] I prefer the arch Way [14:49] Gir + ubuntu touch + convergence [14:49] Ubuntu may have rolling releases between LTS versions [14:50] which i think is the best of both worlds [14:50] Oh... I prefer the simplicity of arch [14:50] oh? [14:50] i thought Arch was a bit difficult to set up [14:50] but i haven't tried it :p [14:50] Cantide: Yea, might end up quite good [14:50] going to watch the cricket on TV [14:50] i think we just took another wicket [14:50] Cantide: It is not difficult as much as requiring you to type lots [14:50] bbl :) [14:50] ok [14:50] ah [14:50] bye :) [14:51] well, i'm sure with a good guide such as the wiki it will be easier :) [14:51] Yea :) even my newbie to linux set it up. The day after I told him about linux [14:51] friend that is a newbie * [14:52] :) [14:52] He configured it with openbox :) [14:52] then mate [15:05] hi Kilos [15:05] hi theblazehen your buddy has been here [15:06] Awesome :) [15:06] did he stay and chat [15:06] ? [15:06] has now installed mate on his arch [15:06] yeah we chatted lots [15:06] Yea :) [15:06] awesome : [15:06] ) [15:06] hehe [15:06] its james hey? [15:07] yea [15:07] both better be here for the meeting tomorrow night hey [15:07] 19.30 [15:07] ok [15:07] I'll be there [15:08] why arch and not ubuntu? [15:08] He wanted to learn, and i figurede arch would make him learn [15:08] thinnk he likes it [15:08] lol its mate he likes [15:09] Yea. [15:10] im using it on lubuntu as well but its not as good as old gnome2 in ubuntu 10.10 [15:10] Can't believe how much he likes it. Completely unthemed [15:10] lol [15:10] yea. Perhaps you can get an old ubuntu iso and grab the files ? [15:10] mate has rewritten everything i think [15:10] do you by any chance use fbterm? [15:11] in synaptic all the other stuff dont show [15:11] It is a fork of gnome2 [15:11] nope whats that? [15:11] yes fork of gnome2 [15:11] terminal for framebuffer. No need for Xorg [15:11] peeps that didnt wanna go unity [15:12] Kilos: apparently the gnome team don't want them using the old names [15:12] ok [15:12] yeah its changed lots and i think actually gone back a bit. gnome2 was kiff [15:13] yea [15:13] unity is like olives and whiskey, you gotta force yourself to get used to it [15:13] hehe [15:14] lol. Why not just use alternative DE? have a look at fuduntu [15:15] ive tried kde which i enjoy and xfce which isnt too hot and lubuntu which i fixed with mate [15:15] ok [15:15] unity and kde are good now [15:15] fuduntu is mate distro. Ever try cinnamon? [15:15] yea [15:16] but stupid unity 12.04 wont see 3g modem so i gave up on it [15:16] nope [15:16] Kilos: and 12.10 does right? [15:16] yeah [15:16] ever think of trying another modem? [15:16] but i got 5 gig of 12.04 archives [15:17] ohh... [15:17] will try when my son comes to visit maybe [15:17] ok [15:17] so installs dont use much bandwidth [15:17] yea [15:18] was planning on staying 12.04 for the full 5 years [15:18] really? end of LTS right? [15:18] yeah [15:18] ok [15:19] i still have 10.10 maverick running on 2 drives on another pc as well [15:19] ok [15:19] i like the option of right click format of usb disks and the easy rename while formatting [15:20] yea [15:20] dunno why they dropped that [15:20] ok [15:20] disk utility isnt the answer [15:20] busy downloading paln9 :) [15:20] whats that? [15:21] different kind of unix. [15:21] made for distributed computing [15:21] oh have you joined our mailing list yet? [15:22] wb Vince-0 [15:22] yea :)_ [15:22] good [15:22] thanks, router reboots [15:23] what is distributed computing [15:24] like load spread over multiple computers [15:24] oh [15:25] yep [15:28] whatcha distributing? [15:29] the desktop [15:29] lol [15:29] howso? [15:30] have one xterm on one machine and firefox running on 2 others :) [15:30] not sure yet. Still downloading rthe iso [15:31] nuvolari: quadcopter takes it out of you [15:31] * Squirm yawns [15:55] hehe you supposed to work it with the controls not run down the road holding it up in the air [15:55] sorry Squirm [15:57] lol [16:00] evening all [16:00] hi magespawn [16:02] hey magespawn [16:02] i will have to have a look at paln9 [16:02] whats up? [16:03] besides quacopters [16:03] not much [16:03] or quadcopters [16:03] poor Squirmy has collapsed on the bed methinks [16:04] happy st patricks day [16:41] hi all [16:48] where you went? [16:50] oh im not seeing join/parts [16:52] * Kilos wonders why [16:54] 8 cores is 5 more than my PC has... [16:54] whew what wants so many superfly ? [16:54] thats like xboxes [16:55] Kilos: the new Samsung Galaxy S4 phone [16:55] it actually has 2 quad-core processors [16:55] whew fones are advancing too fast [16:55] and ARM7 and an ARM15 [16:55] all in a little fone? [16:55] it's Samsung, they were already ahead of Apple with the S3, and they're proving that they are ahead of the game with the S4 [16:56] pcs dropping behind [16:56] PCs dropped behind about a year ago [16:57] my phone pretty much has better specs than my PC [16:57] i wonder if one can use 2 motherboards in one pc [16:57] pity they so small hey? [16:58] imaging a pc with that performance [17:01] Kilos: no, you don't use 2 motherboards in 1 pc, you use a motherboard built to take more than one processor [17:01] ah ty [17:02] family well superfly ? [17:02] Kilos: and the fact is that a multicore processor is much faster than multiple single core processors [17:02] the cores can communicate internally whereas the multiple processors have to communicate with each other via the motherboard [17:02] yeah [17:03] anyway, talking of family, need to get back to them [17:31] hello [17:31] how the hell do I set locale in 12.04 to have a dot instead of this brain dead comma? [17:41] hi bmg505 [17:42] lo [17:42] it feels like 12.04 is a step closer to being a perfect emulation of loosedoze [17:43] ai! [17:43] unity? [17:43] yea ffs and I keep getting crash notifications [17:43] what does it say crashed? [17:44] magespawn: you the unity man today [17:45] bmg505: when it gives the notifications does it wanna send error reports too [17:45] i am? don't really use it on my personal machines [17:45] https://www.eff.org/pages/tor-and-https something to think about [17:45] lol i tried. dunno who here is using unity [17:46] im on kde [17:46] i think Squirm and Cantide use it [17:47] my slackware boxen runs kde, and it beats the shit out of this gnome crap [17:47] Squirm: is on mint mate i think [17:48] maybe maiatoday [17:49] bmg505: maybe have a look here http://askubuntu.com/questions/21316/how-can-i-customize-a-system-locale [17:49] do not know the answer off hand myself [17:50] I don't know who had the brain wave to change it to a freaking , [17:52] seems some people prefer it that way, or so it seems, so 'they' decided to set it as a default [18:35] a comma is the SA standard, but the world operates on US, so a dot is used more often (even SA) for practical reasons [18:52] Maaz: announce Meeting tomorrow night peeps. try be here please. [18:52] Announcement from Kilos! Meeting tomorrow night peeps. try be here please [18:52] inetpro: waar is jy? [19:24] night all.sleep tight [19:30] evening [19:36] naand [19:38] i am also off, good night all [19:48] me2 cya [19:52] Maaz: tell Kilos I'm here as usual [19:52] inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [19:53] and here is wherever I am at any point in time [19:53] good evening [20:00] Maaz: tell Kilos I might not make the meeting [20:00] bmg505: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [20:06] gnight [20:08] Squirm: good night === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za