[10:37]  * Kilos waves
[10:37]  * Cantide tsunamis
[11:13] <Squirm> morning
[11:15] <Kilos> hi
[11:55] <Vince-0> Hi!
[11:56] <Vince-0> busy checking out ubuntu weekly newsletter, they're looking for summary writers and editors:
[11:56] <Vince-0> http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=7806
[11:56] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[12:12] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos 
[14:18] <theblazehen> hi all
[14:19] <Cantide> hello '-'/
[14:19] <theblazehen> Just installed fbterm, oh-my-zsh and the agnoste zsh theme :)
[14:20] <theblazehen> really need to change my fbterm font
[14:20] <Cantide> >_>
[14:21] <theblazehen> you use any of these thnigs?
[14:21]  * Squirm looks around
[14:21] <theblazehen> Squirm: why?
[14:21] <Squirm> cause ya'll boring
[14:21]  * Squirm leaves
[14:21] <theblazehen> ok :(
[14:22] <Squirm> :P
[14:23] <theblazehen> now if only the terminal had notifications...
[14:23]  * Cantide doesn't use any of them
[14:23] <Cantide> theblazehen, can you screenshot it?
[14:23] <theblazehen> sure.
[14:27] <theblazehen> http://imgur.com/LyhFOAq
[14:30] <theblazehen> lCantide: like it?
[14:30] <theblazehen> Cantide: like it?
[14:31] <Cantide> i got a 404 :<
[14:31] <Cantide> " If you're looking for an image, then it's probably been deleted or may not have existed at all. Bummer! "
[14:31] <theblazehen> Musta typed it wrong...
[14:31] <Cantide> was i too slow?
[14:31] <theblazehen> nope
[14:32] <theblazehen> http://imgur.com/LyhF0Aq
[14:32] <theblazehen> try that one
[14:32] <theblazehen> think i mixed up 0 and O
[14:33] <Cantide> wow
[14:33] <Cantide> that looks very minimalistic :)
[14:33] <Cantide> must be great for memory usage :)
[14:39] <theblazehen> yea :) thanks
[14:40] <Cantide> i like my gui too much :<
[14:40] <Cantide> but i like keyboard shortcuts, too :)
[14:41] <theblazehen> Cantide: which DE do you use?
[14:41] <theblazehen> I thinking of using openbox for GUI stuff.
[14:41] <Cantide> Unity
[14:41] <Cantide> i've grown to like it
[14:42] <theblazehen> Yea... I tried ubuntu touch and liked it. If i had a fatster pc I would also  use it  think
[14:42] <Cantide> i hated it at first
[14:42] <Cantide> because of the extra clicks needed to get things done
[14:42] <Cantide> but with the keyboard it's nice
[14:43] <Cantide> and there are cool things like the hud
[14:43] <theblazehen> I feel the same. At least you can use the keyboard
[14:43] <Cantide> and dash
[14:43] <theblazehen> yea
[14:43] <theblazehen> yea
[14:43] <theblazehen> don't really like nautilus though.
[14:43] <theblazehen> Wish there were packages for arch linux
[14:44] <Cantide> hehe
[14:45] <Cantide> the only problem i have with nautilus is that it's a bit heavy and slow
[14:45] <Cantide> other than that i like it
[14:45] <theblazehen> Can't give up on the rolling release ... :(
[14:45] <theblazehen> Cantide: Ever try thunar ?
[14:45] <Cantide> i'm glad they didn't stick with current nautilus
[14:45] <Cantide> yeah, but i don't like the look of thunar
[14:45] <Cantide> it doesn't match the rest of the OS
[14:45] <theblazehen> ok.Whatdo you mean by current nautilus ?
[14:46] <Cantide> umm
[14:46] <Cantide> i forget the version numbers
[14:46] <Cantide> but recently nautilus stripped out a lot of functionality
[14:46] <theblazehen> ok
[14:46] <Cantide> like F3 for split view
[14:46] <Cantide> and tree view
[14:46] <theblazehen> ok :)
[14:46] <Cantide> canonical decided to fork the previous version (before these things were removed)
[14:47] <theblazehen> tree view is nice.
[14:47] <Cantide> yeah, i like it, too
[14:47] <Cantide> i think Nautilus is aiming for a more touch-friendly interface
[14:47] <theblazehen> thought mint forked it?
[14:47] <Cantide> but grrr.. i like my desktop as a desktop
[14:47] <Cantide> hmm
[14:47] <Cantide> they could have, too
[14:47] <theblazehen> Yea. on arch it has no window decoration
[14:47] <theblazehen> Cantide: same
[14:48] <Cantide> i was tempted by Arch
[14:48] <Cantide> but i like the direction that Ubuntu is taking
[14:48] <Cantide> so i want to stick with it
[14:49] <theblazehen> Cantide: You should really try it out,  even in a VM
[14:49] <theblazehen> Cantide: which direction ?
[14:49] <theblazehen> I prefer the arch Way
[14:49] <Cantide> Gir + ubuntu touch + convergence
[14:49] <Cantide> Ubuntu may have rolling releases between LTS versions
[14:50] <Cantide> which i think is the best of both worlds
[14:50] <theblazehen> Oh... I prefer the simplicity of arch
[14:50] <Cantide> oh?
[14:50] <Cantide> i thought Arch was a bit difficult to set up
[14:50] <Cantide> but i haven't tried it :p
[14:50] <theblazehen> Cantide: Yea, might end up quite good
[14:50] <Cantide> going to watch the cricket on TV
[14:50] <Cantide> i think we just took another wicket
[14:50] <theblazehen> Cantide: It is not difficult as much as requiring you to type lots
[14:50] <Cantide> bbl :)
[14:50] <theblazehen> ok
[14:50] <Cantide> ah
[14:50] <theblazehen> bye :)
[14:51] <Cantide> well, i'm sure with a good guide such as the wiki it will be easier :)
[14:51] <theblazehen> Yea :) even my newbie to linux set it up. The day after I told him about linux
[14:51] <theblazehen> friend that is a newbie *
[14:52] <Cantide> :)
[14:52] <theblazehen> He configured it with openbox :)
[14:52] <theblazehen> then mate
[15:05] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[15:05] <Kilos> hi theblazehen your buddy has been here
[15:06] <theblazehen> Awesome :)
[15:06] <theblazehen> did he stay and chat
[15:06] <theblazehen> ?
[15:06] <Kilos> has now installed mate on his arch
[15:06] <Kilos> yeah we chatted lots
[15:06] <theblazehen> Yea :)
[15:06] <theblazehen> awesome :
[15:06] <theblazehen> )
[15:06] <Kilos> hehe
[15:06] <Kilos> its james hey?
[15:07] <theblazehen> yea
[15:07] <Kilos> both better be here for the meeting  tomorrow night hey
[15:07] <Kilos> 19.30
[15:07] <theblazehen> ok
[15:07] <theblazehen> I'll be there
[15:08] <Kilos> why arch and not ubuntu?
[15:08] <theblazehen> He wanted to learn, and i figurede arch would make him learn
[15:08] <theblazehen> thinnk he likes it
[15:08] <Kilos> lol its mate he likes
[15:09] <theblazehen> Yea.
[15:10] <Kilos> im using it on lubuntu as well but its not as good as old gnome2 in ubuntu 10.10
[15:10] <theblazehen> Can't believe how much he likes it.  Completely unthemed
[15:10] <Kilos> lol
[15:10] <theblazehen> yea. Perhaps you can get an old ubuntu iso and grab the files ?
[15:10] <Kilos> mate has rewritten everything i think
[15:10] <theblazehen> do you by any chance use fbterm?
[15:11] <Kilos> in synaptic all the other stuff dont show 
[15:11] <theblazehen> It is a fork of gnome2
[15:11] <Kilos> nope whats that?
[15:11] <Kilos> yes fork of gnome2
[15:11] <theblazehen> terminal for framebuffer. No need for Xorg
[15:11] <Kilos> peeps that didnt wanna go unity
[15:12] <theblazehen> Kilos: apparently the gnome team don't want them using the old names
[15:12] <theblazehen> ok
[15:12] <Kilos> yeah its changed lots and i think actually gone back a bit. gnome2 was kiff
[15:13] <theblazehen> yea
[15:13] <Kilos> unity is like olives and whiskey, you gotta force yourself to get used to it
[15:13] <Kilos> hehe
[15:14] <theblazehen> lol. Why not just use alternative DE? have a look at fuduntu
[15:15] <Kilos> ive tried kde which i enjoy and xfce which isnt too hot and lubuntu which i fixed with mate
[15:15] <theblazehen> ok
[15:15] <Kilos> unity and kde are good now
[15:15] <theblazehen> fuduntu is mate distro. Ever try cinnamon?
[15:15] <theblazehen> yea
[15:16] <Kilos> but stupid unity 12.04 wont see 3g modem so i gave up on it
[15:16] <Kilos> nope
[15:16] <theblazehen> Kilos: and 12.10 does right?
[15:16] <Kilos> yeah
[15:16] <theblazehen> ever think of trying another modem?
[15:16] <Kilos> but i got 5 gig of 12.04 archives 
[15:17] <theblazehen> ohh...
[15:17] <Kilos> will try when my son comes to visit maybe
[15:17] <theblazehen> ok
[15:17] <Kilos> so installs dont use much bandwidth
[15:17] <theblazehen> yea
[15:18] <Kilos> was planning on staying 12.04 for the full 5 years
[15:18] <theblazehen> really? end of LTS right?
[15:18] <Kilos> yeah
[15:18] <theblazehen> ok
[15:19] <Kilos> i still have 10.10 maverick running on 2 drives on another pc as well
[15:19] <theblazehen> ok
[15:19] <Kilos> i like the option of right click format of usb disks and the easy rename while formatting
[15:20] <theblazehen> yea
[15:20] <Kilos> dunno why they dropped that
[15:20] <theblazehen> ok
[15:20] <Kilos> disk utility isnt the answer
[15:20] <theblazehen> busy downloading paln9 :)
[15:20] <Kilos> whats that?
[15:21] <theblazehen> different kind of unix.
[15:21] <theblazehen> made for distributed computing
[15:21] <Kilos> oh have you joined our mailing list yet?
[15:22] <Kilos> wb Vince-0 
[15:22] <theblazehen> yea :)_
[15:22] <Kilos> good
[15:22] <Vince-0> thanks, router reboots
[15:23] <Kilos> what is distributed computing
[15:24] <theblazehen> like load spread over multiple computers
[15:24] <Kilos> oh
[15:25] <theblazehen> yep
[15:28] <Vince-0> whatcha distributing?
[15:29] <theblazehen> the desktop
[15:29] <theblazehen> lol
[15:29] <Vince-0> howso? 
[15:30] <theblazehen> have one xterm on one machine and firefox running on 2 others :)
[15:30] <theblazehen> not sure yet. Still downloading rthe iso
[15:31] <Squirm> nuvolari: quadcopter takes it out of you
[15:31]  * Squirm yawns
[15:55] <Kilos> hehe you supposed to work it with the controls not run down the road holding it up in the air
[15:55] <Kilos> sorry Squirm 
[15:57] <theblazehen> lol
[16:00] <magespawn> evening all
[16:00] <theblazehen> hi magespawn 
[16:02] <Kilos> hey magespawn 
[16:02] <magespawn> i will have to have a look at paln9
[16:02] <magespawn> whats up?
[16:03] <magespawn> besides quacopters
[16:03] <Kilos> not much
[16:03] <magespawn> or quadcopters
[16:03] <Kilos> poor Squirmy has collapsed on the bed methinks
[16:04] <magespawn> happy st patricks day
[16:41] <theblazehen> hi all
[16:48] <Kilos> where you went?
[16:50] <Kilos> oh im not seeing join/parts
[16:52]  * Kilos wonders why
[16:54] <superfly> 8 cores is 5 more than my PC has...
[16:54] <Kilos> whew what wants so many superfly ?
[16:54] <Kilos> thats like xboxes
[16:55] <superfly> Kilos: the new Samsung Galaxy S4 phone
[16:55] <superfly> it actually has 2 quad-core processors
[16:55] <Kilos> whew fones are advancing too fast
[16:55] <superfly> and ARM7 and an ARM15
[16:55] <Kilos> all in a little fone?
[16:55] <superfly> it's Samsung, they were already ahead of Apple with the S3, and they're proving that they are ahead of the game with the S4
[16:56] <Kilos> pcs dropping behind
[16:56] <superfly> PCs dropped behind about a year ago
[16:57] <superfly> my phone pretty much has better specs than my PC
[16:57] <Kilos> i wonder if one can use 2 motherboards in one pc
[16:57] <Kilos> pity they so small hey?
[16:58] <Kilos> imaging a pc with that performance
[17:01] <superfly> Kilos: no, you don't use 2 motherboards in 1 pc, you use a motherboard built to take more than one processor
[17:01] <Kilos> ah ty
[17:02] <Kilos> family well superfly ?
[17:02] <superfly> Kilos: and the fact is that a multicore processor is much faster than multiple single core processors
[17:02] <superfly> the cores can communicate internally whereas the multiple processors have to communicate with each other via the motherboard
[17:02] <superfly> yeah
[17:03] <superfly> anyway, talking of family, need to get back to them
[17:31] <bmg505> hello
[17:31] <bmg505> how the hell do I set locale in 12.04 to have a dot instead of this brain dead comma?
[17:41] <Kilos> hi bmg505 
[17:42] <bmg505> lo
[17:42] <bmg505> it feels like 12.04 is a step closer to being a perfect emulation of loosedoze
[17:43] <Kilos> ai!
[17:43] <Kilos> unity?
[17:43] <bmg505> yea ffs and I keep getting crash notifications
[17:43] <Kilos> what does it say crashed?
[17:44] <Kilos> magespawn: you the unity man today
[17:45] <Kilos> bmg505: when it gives the notifications does it wanna send error reports too
[17:45] <magespawn> i am? don't really use it on my personal machines
[17:45] <magespawn> https://www.eff.org/pages/tor-and-https something to think about
[17:45] <Kilos> lol i tried. dunno who here is using unity
[17:46] <Kilos> im on kde
[17:46] <magespawn> i think Squirm  and Cantide use it
[17:47] <bmg505> my slackware boxen runs kde, and it beats the shit out of this gnome crap
[17:47] <Kilos> Squirm: is on mint mate i think
[17:48] <Kilos> maybe maiatoday 
[17:49] <magespawn> bmg505: maybe have a look here http://askubuntu.com/questions/21316/how-can-i-customize-a-system-locale 
[17:49] <magespawn> do not know the answer off hand myself
[17:50] <bmg505> I don't know who had the brain wave to change it to a freaking ,
[17:52] <magespawn> seems some people prefer it that way, or so it seems, so 'they' decided to set it as a default
[18:35] <superfly> a comma is the SA standard, but the world operates on US, so a dot is used more often (even SA) for practical reasons
[18:52] <Kilos> Maaz: announce Meeting tomorrow night peeps. try be here please.
[18:52] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Meeting tomorrow night peeps. try be here please
[18:52] <Kilos> inetpro: waar is jy?
[19:24] <Kilos> night all.sleep tight
[19:30] <Squirm> evening
[19:36] <Vince-0> naand
[19:38] <magespawn> i am also off, good night all
[19:48] <Vince-0> me2 cya
[19:52] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Kilos I'm here as usual
[19:52] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[19:53] <inetpro> and here is wherever I am at any point in time
[19:53] <inetpro> good evening
[20:00] <bmg505> Maaz: tell Kilos I might not make the meeting
[20:00] <Maaz> bmg505: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[20:06] <Squirm> gnight
[20:08] <inetpro> Squirm: good night