| twb | lilstevie: hey man, you awake? | 02:49 |
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| twb | I'm thinking about getting a new arm netbook, wondering if you had any opinions. | 02:50 |
| twb | Pretty much just want a 1kg/10"/all-day battery and running debian or ubuntu natively (chroot inside android doesn't count). Don't care if it's sold as a tablet+dock, long as I can use it as a netbook :-) | 02:51 |
| TheMuso | twb: If you are willing to jump through a few hoops, you can get Ubuntu running on the Samsung Chromebook. | 03:02 |
| twb | I heard bad things about the google stuff | 03:02 |
| twb | Something about SBK? | 03:02 |
| TheMuso | THis is news to me... | 03:03 |
| TheMuso | You are probably thinking of the Intel variant of the Chromebook. | 03:03 |
| lilstevie | twb, I'm awake | 03:03 |
| TheMuso | I think Samsung have an Arm version and an Intel version, probably named different things and look differently, but yeah. | 03:03 |
| twb | TheMuso: not sure. I'll see if I can find the reference I"m thinking of | 03:03 |
| lilstevie | the samsung one does have a few issues | 03:03 |
| TheMuso | Don't know the name differences. | 03:03 |
| lilstevie | like melting the speakers | 03:03 |
| lilstevie | if you futz with alsa incorrectly | 03:03 |
| TheMuso | Ok, wasn't really aware of the issues, just know it can be done., | 03:03 |
| TheMuso | lilstevie: Yeah but thats fixed as of raring., | 03:04 |
| twb | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/22465.html "Don't like Secure Boot? Don't buy a Chromebook." | 03:04 |
| twb | "Out of the box, Chromebooks are even more locked down than Windows 8 machines." | 03:04 |
| TheMuso | twb: Yeah thats about the intel variants, I *think* | 03:04 |
| twb | It's not clear if that's x86_64 ones | 03:04 |
| twb | NFI how far the EFI madness has penetrated the arm space | 03:05 |
| lilstevie | twb, remove a single gold screw and the arm chromebook is open | 03:05 |
| twb | lilstevie: OK | 03:05 |
| lilstevie | EFI on arm has only penetrated the windows rt devices so far | 03:05 |
| lilstevie | arm chromebook uses u-boot | 03:05 |
| lilstevie | RaYmAn would be better than me at this though | 03:06 |
| lilstevie | he flashed a full devel unlocked u-boot to his device (can only be done with the gold screw undone) | 03:06 |
| lilstevie | the gold screw basically enforces SPI writelock | 03:07 |
| twb | OTOH the TF101 is still working fine, I'm mainly just wanting to do upgrades to its kernel and stuff that are likely to brick it for a couple of days, meaning I can't do my job. So maybe what I *should* be doing is getting an x86 netbook instead as my backup... | 03:07 |
| lilstevie | tf101 is dead | 03:07 |
| lilstevie | Lo | 03:07 |
| lilstevie | performance of chromebook is much faster | 03:08 |
| twb | Meh, it's only doing emacs and ssh, and it's pretty much already limited by how fast I can type | 03:09 |
| twb | >1G of ram would be nice so I can buffer more of the SD card in RAM | 03:09 |
| twb | http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/samsung-chromebook.html#specs says only 6½hr battery | 03:11 |
| lilstevie | it says "over" | 03:14 |
| lilstevie | :p | 03:14 |
| twb | yeah but it's a vendor claim running vendor's OS, so when you switch to a proper linux you assume it's about 80% of their lowest claim | 03:16 |
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| Zero_Chaos | at full load I get 6 hours on my chromebook battery (like, compiling the whole time) | 03:41 |
| Zero_Chaos | if you let it clock down it's closer to 12 hours | 03:42 |
| twb | OK | 03:42 |
| lilstevie | Zero_Chaos, running ubuntu | 03:49 |
| lilstevie | or chromeos | 03:49 |
| Zero_Chaos | lilstevie: niether ;-) | 03:49 |
| lilstevie | Zero_Chaos, lol | 03:50 |
| Zero_Chaos | lilstevie: gentoo | 03:51 |
| lilstevie | figured | 03:51 |
| lilstevie | it was either going to be debian or gentoo, but you said compiling all day | 03:52 |
| Zero_Chaos | yeah kinda narrows it down ;-) | 03:52 |
| twb | haha | 03:52 |
| lilstevie | I'm unsure where the best performance is with arm | 03:54 |
| lilstevie | gentoo for me is a little heavy when you probably need to spend a week compiling everything needed for a desktop env | 03:54 |
| Zero_Chaos | lilstevie: closer to two days | 03:54 |
| twb | lilstevie: surely you can cross-compile anyway | 03:54 |
| twb | So just do it on big iron | 03:54 |
| lilstevie | Zero_Chaos, heh thats on the a15 though right | 03:54 |
| Zero_Chaos | then again i don't use kde so maybe a week for kde users | 03:55 |
| lilstevie | someone said it took 16-17 hours to compile chromium on the tf201 | 03:55 |
| twb | Last time I tried to compile webkit I ran out of ram | 03:55 |
| lilstevie | heh | 03:55 |
| twb | Probably because -g was on | 03:55 |
| lilstevie | I'm running fedora on my tf201 as an experiment for the time being and it seems alright, but no EGL/GLES stuff at this stage | 03:56 |
| twb | Oh *that's* why my old x86 netbook is in the cupboard. It's btrfs-on-SSD shat itself | 04:00 |
| lilstevie | lol | 04:01 |
| twb | I worked out how to recovery /home and /srv later, but / was gooooone | 04:02 |
| lilstevie | lol | 04:03 |
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| imblaze | hello all | 09:35 |
| imblaze | i have a few questions about boot on android devices from uefi volumes | 09:38 |
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| * ogra_ guesses you should better ask in an android channel then | 09:53 | |
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| imblaze | . | 11:20 |
| RoyK | , | 11:22 |
| Tassadar | imblaze: ping | 12:01 |
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| ptl | anyone uses ubuntu in a chromebook xe303c12 here? | 15:11 |
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| angs | I am trying to install wpa_supplicant 2.0 on ubuntu-arm server but it has too much dependencies. Once someone here told a command with aptitude to install dependencies automatically, does anyone know how I can do it? | 20:02 |
| ogra_ | dependencies are always installed automatically | 20:04 |
| infinity | angs: Are you building wpa_supplicant yourself, or getting it from a PPA, or...? | 20:04 |
| ogra_ | oh, yeah, i missed the 2.0 | 20:04 |
| infinity | angs: If it's not coming from an apt repository, apt (or aptitude) aren't going to be much help. | 20:04 |
| infinity | angs: Though, "apt-get build-dep wpasupplicant" might give you an approximation of the things you need to built it, if that's what you were looking for. | 20:05 |
| infinity | s/built/build/ | 20:05 |
| angs | yes I am trying to build it myself | 20:07 |
| angs | than you it install some packages now | 20:07 |
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