[00:03] <mhall119> daker: I'm jealous of that dude
[00:04] <daker> ya mean 16yeas and 20 LANGUAGES!!!
[00:04] <daker> man*
[00:23] <jcastro> mhall119: pelican is python
[00:23] <jcastro> and has an importer for wordpress!
[01:09] <mhall119> jcastro: I've been told about several python ones, just need the time to look into them
[01:10] <mhall119> well, I've had the time, but I've been giving it all to learning the SDK
[07:47] <dholbach> good morning
[08:00] <czajkowski> aloha
[11:28] <vibhav> good morning
[11:38] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: hey, will you be doing a hangout tomorrow?
[11:39] <dholbach> JoseeAntonioR, no, don't think so, but for next week we should schedule something
[11:53] <JoseeAntonioR> great
[11:53]  * JoseeAntonioR updates the cal
[12:14] <cjohnston> mornin
[14:03] <jcastro> mhall119: your blog hurts me
[14:03] <mhall119> :P
[14:04] <mhall119> there's 2 sites hosted on that instance, both wordpress
[14:04] <jcastro> it's not loading for me right now
[14:04] <mhall119> so it *could* be the other one slowing things down
[14:04] <jcastro> and like half the planet is going to hit your page on Friday
[14:04] <jcastro> errr, monday, whenever unity 7 lands
[14:05] <mhall119> hmmm, I should put up a small instace that calls the db on the micro, for those high-traffic days
[14:05] <snap-l> I had something strange with my blog; some bot in Japan was hitting my ubuntu articles repeatedly
[14:05] <snap-l> might want to check your logs to see if someone needs a blocking
[14:07] <mhall119> snap-l: I have, it's mostly web crawlers
[14:07] <mhall119> they hit too many pages too fast, kicks in Amazon's throttling
[14:07] <snap-l> Oh, nice of them
[14:20] <cjohnston> mhall119: just use the omg setup!
[14:23] <jcastro> or even a decent WP host!
[14:24]  * popey hugs his vps
[14:34] <mhall119> I'm moving it to rackspace and a non-WP backend
[14:34] <mhall119> eventually
[14:38] <mhall119> jcastro: ah, I'm getting hit by http://boomshadow.net/tech/fixes/spoofed-bingbot/
[14:39] <jcastro> hah nice!
[15:48] <daker> note that i still cannot report bugs on https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app
[15:48] <jono> dholbach, hey
[15:48] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:48] <jono> dholbach, so re. ubuntu touch summaries
[15:49] <jono> the changelog looks good, but as I mentioned, I think we need a human curated summary
[15:49] <jono> with the changelog being the detail if people want more
[15:49] <jono> dholbach, also, I don't think we need touch.ubuntu.com for these updates, lets use the fridge
[15:49] <czajkowski> daker: bugs aren't set up on that project
[15:52] <daker> czajkowski: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/03/12/%23ubuntu-community-team.html#t18:48
[15:53] <mhall119> daker: they don't want to turn on bug reporting because they don't have any roadmaps for features or anybody to properly triage bugs
[15:53] <czajkowski> daker: aye not sure how that works as it's owned by a canonical team PS so wondering do they not want bugs opened up on there
[15:53] <daker> mhall119: ok
[15:54] <mhall119> so they don't want a bunch of "The web browser should do this" or "the web broser doesn't do that"
[15:54] <mhall119> filling up the bug list
[15:54] <dholbach> jono, in a call with Randall right now - it might be a bit tough to get better information out there and everything written up nicely, but I wrote a mail to the team already to write better changelog entries, so it's easier to find out what exactly happened
[15:55] <dholbach> jono, like I went through the changelog entries to write this up, but it was the best level of detail I could find
[15:55] <dholbach> I'll bring it up with Ricardo
[15:58] <jono> dholbach, please do: I don't want you writing these summaries, the touch team should
[15:58] <jono> and it is not that much work: just someone writes one blog entry a week :-)
[15:58] <dholbach> jono, Ricardo will do the one for next week
[15:58] <jono> dholbach, ok
[15:58] <jono> thanks dholbach
[16:01] <dholbach> yeah, for team members it should be a bit easier to write up and probably take less time
[16:30] <jono> jcastro, all set?
[16:31] <jcastro> one sec
[16:31] <jcastro> call running over
[16:31] <jcastro> 30 seconds
[16:45] <dholbach> jono, our team meeting on wednesday, is going to start for you at 8? (just trying to understand DST changes)
[17:04] <jono> dholbach, yep
[17:05] <jono> dholbach, although, I need to cancel
[17:05] <jono> as I will be at an event :-)
[17:05] <jono> will drop a mail to the team today
[17:05] <jono> you guys should go ahead anyway
[17:05] <dholbach> jono, ok, that will make it possible to accomodate the other meeting
[17:05] <dholbach> jono, yep - thanks
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[17:16] <daker> keyboard fail :)
[17:17] <jussi> wow, she even tab completed dh olbach this tme...
[17:17] <daker> cat ?
[17:17] <jussi> 1 year old...
[17:25] <mhall119> lol
[17:45] <jono> jcastro, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm9koxAb4EM
[17:46] <jcastro> man
[17:46] <jcastro> this is awesome
[17:47] <jono> jcastro, :-)
[18:24] <popey> jcastro: andrewebdev popped up in -uk asking for good resources for learning the way of juju and devops.. got any suggestions?
[18:24] <czajkowski> andrewebdev: ello :)
[18:24] <andrewebdev> :)
[18:25] <jcastro> popey: that's a pretty general question!
[18:25] <popey> indeed :D
[18:26] <andrewebdev> I'm looking to move my dev/deployment workflow to Juju. But at the same time I want to learn a bit more details on ubuntu-sever. I was looking for something like a course that I could do from home.
[18:27] <jcastro> we'll there's the server guide
[18:27] <andrewebdev> something slightly more formal than random docs
[18:27] <andrewebdev> :)
[18:27] <jcastro> the ubuntu server book is also not as dry
[18:28] <andrewebdev> in retrospect, "random docs" might sound a bit insulting to the excellent document writers out there
[18:28] <andrewebdev> didn't mean it that way
[18:28] <Pici> and doctors
[18:29] <andrewebdev> heh
[18:31] <jcastro> yeah
[18:31] <jcastro> no one wants to sit and read docs
[18:32] <jcastro> no matter how good they are
[18:40] <pleia2> andrewebdev: afaik there isn't course-like Ubuntu server documentation out there (it is part of what we want to accomplish with Ubuntu Learning, but most on our team are focused on Desktop right now, and even that has mostly stalled due to other obligations our volunteers have)
[18:41] <andrewebdev> ok cool, docs it is then :)
[18:41] <pleia2> more generally there are things like ops-school, but it sounds like you are ok with ops, just need ubuntu-server specific stuff
[18:41] <andrewebdev> main reason for wanting to learn more formally, is that I have a tutor that can tell me: "what you are doing now is a security risk"... things like that
[18:42] <pleia2> ah, yeah
[18:43] <andrewebdev> because I'm self taught, that is the kind of thing that always makes me nervous.
[18:43] <andrewebdev> I can read docs fine, and can do most of the basic tasks. But I never know if what I'm doing will actually cause problems in future
[18:44] <andrewebdev> But for now I guess I'll stick to docs, and ask for advice in dev meetups/communities
[18:44] <pleia2> I think most ops people depend upon a mentor-at-work for that kind of thing (I am self-taught too, heavily relied upon those mentors at work)
[18:45] <andrewebdev> would be good if I had that :) I'm freelance
[18:46] <andrewebdev> well thanks for the info :)
[18:46] <pleia2> I was at LISA a couple months ago where a keynote covered this topic (how sysadmins learn, importance of mentors - but they don't scale) trying to get more interest in more formal sysadmin education
[18:46] <pleia2> good luck :)
[18:53] <dholbach> all right... time to call it a day - and I'll try to get the ptbr packaging guide enabled offline! \o/
[18:53] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[18:53] <dholbach> but dinner first :)
[19:02] <cjohnston> bkerensa: ping
[19:40] <jcastro> mhall119: hey is wikipedia in the 13.04 scopes goal?
[19:42] <mhall119> jcastro: I believe so, yes
[19:43] <jcastro> mhall119: hows's that ppa working for you?
[19:43] <jcastro> I am mulling breaking something
[19:43] <mhall119> jcastro: it will run server-side though, you won't need to install anything locally
[19:43] <mhall119> jcastro: just upgraded this morning, so far so good, but it's not fully functional yet
[19:43] <jcastro> same ppa jono was using?
[19:44] <mhall119> yeah
[19:44] <mhall119> the smart scope service isn't returning customized results yet,just the same set of scopes to search
[19:44] <mhall119> also, the privacy controls haven't landed yet, so you won't be able to turn stuff off
[19:45] <jcastro> I want to test all of them anyway
[19:45] <mhall119> ^^ before anyone freaks out, this is the "experimental-prevalidation" PPA, so the fact that privacy controls aren't there doesn't mean anything
[19:45] <jcastro> AGAIN YOU IGNORE MY NEEDS
[19:45] <jcastro> hah just kidding
[19:45] <mhall119> I was already being quoted as saying that we don't care about privacy
[19:45] <mhall119> so now I have to CYA over *everything*
[19:46] <jcastro> well, people can still quote you out of context. :p
[19:46] <mhall119> true
[19:47] <mhall119> it does warm my heart to see angry mobs calling for me to be fired
[19:47] <jcastro> hey man, I had to go through 11.04
[19:48] <rrnwexec> http://markup.io can be your friend for "out of context"
[19:49] <mhall119> rrnwexec: if I could convince people with context, I wouldn't have to convince people
[20:00] <snap-l> I heard mhall119 say "privacy... doesn't mean anything ... we don't care about
[20:00] <snap-l> privacy"
[20:01] <mhall119> snap-l: I will track you down...
[20:01] <snap-l> I live inside jcastro
[20:02] <snap-l> hanging out with his tapework
[20:02] <snap-l> tapeworm, even
[20:02] <snap-l> scenery sucks, but the wifi is awesome
[20:03] <IdleOne> mhall119: people are calling for you to be fired?
[20:03] <IdleOne> that seems rather harsh
[20:03] <jcastro> people call for Mark to fire himself all the time
[20:03] <snap-l> something tells me this is a rite of passage in OSS
[20:03] <jcastro> what's one more call!
[20:04] <snap-l> I had someone call our corporaate office one time looking for my head
[20:04] <snap-l> because of something or other I wrote in a ticket that displeased them
[20:04] <snap-l> or something wasn't done in O(n) time
[20:05] <snap-l> don't remember, don't care.
[20:14] <mhall119> IdleOne: yeah, in comments somewhere.  I think snap-l may be right about it being a rite of passage
[20:14] <mhall119> which must mean I'm only one step away from Linus publicly calling me an idiot
[20:14] <snap-l> We can only hope
[20:14] <snap-l> ;)
[20:15] <mhall119> everybody has to have goals :)
[20:17] <IdleOne> I could that now if you like, won't have the same social impact though.
[20:17] <IdleOne> :P
[20:17] <jcastro> mhall119: heh cool, I'm watching the dash "figure things out" as I type
[20:18] <mhall119> jcastro: it's not very smart yet, but we're helping it learn :)
[20:19] <jcastro> no doubt I have trained it on "phillips a19" a few times
[20:19] <mhall119> jcastro: everything is going to suggest cans of worms now, isn't it
[20:22] <jcastro> mhall119: try "red wiggler worms"
[20:22] <jcastro> that's actually the right results too
[20:22] <jcastro> once you let the music scope finish spazzing out
[20:44] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, ping?
[21:09] <bkerensa> jcastro: Juju with OpenStack Workshop sounds interesting :)
[21:11] <jcastro> :D
[21:14] <bkerensa> jcastro: we will have to grab a beer when your up
[21:14] <jcastro> fo sho
[21:16] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: pong
[21:16] <JoseeAntonioR> just arrived from school
[21:20] <czajkowski> jono: count me in for one of them meetings but not tomorrow we have the loco council meeting then,  I'd reply to the thread, but so many replies on multiple lists I'm on my inbox is a tad messy :)
[21:26] <jono> thanks czajkowski!
[21:26] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, just wanted to check tomorrow is fine for me to do a few hangouts
[21:26] <jono> I assume there are no other sessions
[21:27] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: sure, just give me the details to include it in the cal, the auto-updates on twitter, and we're good to go
[21:30] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, the following:
[21:30] <jono> 8pm - Community Leadership Meeting
[21:30] <jono> (UTC)
[21:31] <jono> actually, just that
[21:31] <jono> I don't have time for my Q+A
[21:31] <jono> and I am our Wed - Fri morning
[21:31] <jono> I might do my Q+A on Friday actually
[21:32] <JoseeAntonioR> is it fine if I move it to Fri, 1pm your time?
[21:41] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: added to the cal
[22:03] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, I will need to see about the Fri session
[22:03] <jono> depends on what time I manage to get home
[22:03] <jono> I think I will just postpone it this week
[22:03] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: no worries then, let me know if you want to reschedule it :)
[22:03] <jono> thanks JoseeAntonioR!
[22:18] <JoseeAntonioR> np :)
[22:39] <jono> bkerensa, can you reddit http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/18/recent-ubuntu-community-refinements/ ?
[22:42] <bkerensa> kk
[22:42] <jono> cheers