BigWhaleGood Morning everyone.06:18
pittiGood morning06:34
BigWhaleWho do I vent to if I want to vent about Nautilus? :/06:38
jibelgood morning07:47
didrockssalut jibel07:48
jibelbonjour didrocks07:48
* didrocks grrr at magners07:49
jpdsAnyone else have problems on raring where a full-screen application, isn't really full-screen?08:02
didrocksjpds: yeah, known issue, fixed in trunk, waiting for mterry to publish unity08:03
tjaaltondidrocks: hey, who was it again that was supposed to look into the issue where some unity/compiz settings get reset on upgrade?08:37
didrockstjaalton: I think smspillaz had an idea on what is causing it08:38
tjaaltonok I'll ping him later08:39
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pittiRAOF: are you aware of the colord autopkgtest failure? looks like colord has FTBFSed for a while08:55
RAOFpitti: No, I'm not; also, I see the most recent colord in my archives?08:55
pittisome CDSensor.../ cd_sensor_* unknown symbols08:55
RAOFLooks like it's pretending to be on kFreeBSD?08:59
seb128hey desktopers08:59
pittibonjour seb12808:59
RAOFpitti: Why hasn't that stopped propagation from raring-proposed to raring?08:59
pittiRAOF: britney doesnt' look at autopkgtest yet08:59
seb128salut pitti09:00
RAOFAha, that would be why.09:00
seb128hey RAOF09:00
RAOFOk, I'll look at colord tomorrow. I've been meaning to make that autopkgtest a bit more awesome anyway.09:00
RAOFpitti: Thanks!09:01
pittiah, thanks!09:01
pittihey Laney09:04
seb128hey Laney09:06
Laneyhey pitti, seb12809:06
Laneydid you have good weekends?09:06
pittiquite fine indeed, thanks! and you?09:06
seb128w.e was quite ok here, weather was grey and rainy though09:06
Laneynot so bad, managed to get out on the bike in the gaps in the rain09:07
pittiit was actually quite sunny here (but cold)09:07
pittisunny enough for ice cream, anyway (inside)09:07
pittibut it's swowing again now, yay09:08
pittisnowing, too09:08
Laneyspring starts on Wednesday, no fear ;-)09:09
* mlankhorst sends waves of snow Laney's way09:10
mlankhorstspring soon!09:14
mlankhorstlets wrap up this winter09:14
czajkowskimorning folks09:49
czajkowskiwould anyone be able to share any light on why I do an update on Raring, it's breaking my virtual Box so I have to kick it each time via http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5624797/09:50
ogra_czajkowski, #ubuntu-kernel perhaps ?09:51
czajkowskiok cheers ogra_09:51
ogra_looks like a module issue09:51
mitya57let's have virtualbox broken in every release!09:52
* mitya57 wonders when will someone sponsor lp:~mitya57/ubuntu/precise/virtualbox/4.1.12-dfsg-2ubuntu0.3 for him09:52
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jibeldidrocks, I filed bug 1156540 for the issue we had this morning10:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 1156540 in cowdancer (Ubuntu) "cowdancer deletes bind-mounted directories" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115654010:14
didrocksjibel: merci!10:15
czajkowskididrocks: any idea where to send mitya57 to so they can get their branch sponsored10:18
didrocksczajkowski: sorry, do you have some context? :-) which projects?10:19
czajkowski09:52 < mitya57> let's have virtualbox broken in every release!10:19
czajkowski09:52  * mitya57 wonders when will someone sponsor lp:~mitya57/ubuntu/precise/virtualbox/4.1.12-dfsg-2ubuntu0.3 for him10:19
Laneyit's already in the sponsor queue10:19
didrocksczajkowski: they should just follow the sponsorship process :)10:19
didrocksah, so it's already in the queue :)10:19
czajkowskiLaney: didrocks cheers I didn't know :)10:20
Laneysomeone will get to it soon; four days isn't overly long to wait (unfortunately?)10:20
mitya57that's not urgent for me (at all), but the large sponsoring queue %Bis%B a problem10:26
mitya57oops, that was *is* :)10:27
seb128mitya57, the sponsoring queue is sort of under control10:27
seb128it was close from 40 items on friday10:27
seb128with a stack of "needs packaging" bugs10:28
pittirobru, didrocks: oh, friends is apparently part of the daily autolanding -- how does one fix the broken autopkgtests?10:29
pittiI guess I shouldn't just manually upload?10:29
didrockspitti: just propose a branch upstream :)10:29
didrocksand it will be in tomorrow daily release, published if ken acks it10:29
pittididrocks: oh, is the packaging part of the upstream branch?10:29
didrockspitti: right10:29
pittididrocks: d'accord, merci !10:30
didrockspitti: de rien :)10:30
didrockspitti: make dist doesn't dist the pakcaging10:30
didrocksbut I don't have the time to give the full rationale again :)10:30
pittino worries10:30
didrockspitti: python3-dbusmock is in universe, do you think it can go to main?10:37
pittididrocks: bug 115412610:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 1154126 in python-dbusmock (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-dbusmock" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115412610:37
pittiit was approved, so feel free to promote10:38
didrocksexcellent! :)10:38
didrocksthanks pitti. Will promote once indicator-messages published10:38
didrockspitti: because it already happened more than once that prepromotion was demoted…10:38
pittirobru, kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/friends/fix-autopkgtest/+merge/153749, s'il vous plaît10:57
looltjaalton: Hey, since recent updates xrandr detects a VGA display attached on my laptop, but nothing is connected; how could I check whether this is kernel or xorg related?11:49
loolI've read dmesg, but I wasn't able to spot informtion from the i915 logs11:50
tjaaltonlool: it's a kernel regression, 20afbda209d708 is needed from linus11:50
tjaaltonboot -12, it should work11:50
looltjaalton: ok, so known/reported and being fixed already, thanks11:50
tjaaltonknown, not fixed yet11:50
looltjaalton: is this something we could auto-test for?  I guess it's super hardware specific11:51
tjaaltonlool: aiui it's oly on gen4 hw, what do you have?11:51
tjaaltonyeah dunno how to autotest hw specific stuff, other than having each gen represented in some lab11:52
looltjaalton: I have super old intel11:53
lool00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)11:53
loolnot sure how to find a more useful name for it11:53
tjaaltonyeah it's fourth generation11:54
loolIntel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD11:55
tjaaltonthe kernel stable series picked up an incomplete set of patches to fix some bug, missing this commit11:55
looltjaalton: just curious, are we testing new kernel / xorg stacks against all hardware revisions in our cert lab?11:56
tjaaltondon't think so11:57
tjaaltonprobably should know though :)11:57
loolsounds bad not to leverage this to try to catch bugs11:57
lool(even if this particular bug might not be covered because we might not have this particular class of hardware)11:58
didrocksxnox: hey, do you know when steve or anyone on your team will look at the ubuntu-platform source?12:06
didrocksxnox: as it's the first one, maybe would be better to get this one in first :)12:06
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xnoxdidrocks: ack. I think it will end up being me doing all the vorlon's tasks on that blueprint.12:06
didrocksxnox: well, at least, you will bring consistency between MP :)12:07
xnoxdidrocks: I did this one as "simple" trial run. Will look at others in a moment ;-)12:07
didrocksxnox: I don't really have time to review them right now properly (but feel free to continue, first look, it sounds fine)12:07
didrocksthanks xnox :)12:07
didrocksxnox: oh, i'm a little bit pendantic about on dep per line though12:07
didrocksxnox: and trailing , so that next diff doesn't have 2 lines when adding something12:08
xnoxdidrocks: ack. ack. Not sure who is doing MIR to land it into raring though. I believe vorlon volunteered, and not sure if that got delegated yet or not.12:08
didrocksalso, you miss the info on debian/control12:08
xnoxdidrocks: patches to wrap and sort are welcome!12:08
* xnox did run it... unless you want further tweaks to it.12:08
xnoxwrap-and-sort --didrocks-mode12:08
xnoxaliased to --pedantic12:09
didrocksxnox: well, the rest sounds fine, I would appreciate if you have the time to finish this :-)12:09
didrocksxnox: can wrote the comment on the MP, one sec12:09
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didrocksxnox: commented :)12:13
xnoxdidrocks: thanks a lot ! will fix up.12:14
didrocksxnox: thanks to you :-)12:14
seb128mitya57, it's fine to use the serie name without -proposed for SRUs nowadays12:29
seb128just for info12:29
mitya57seb128: thanks, I forgot about that12:30
kenvandinepitti, thanks!13:03
pittihey kenvandine, how are you?13:03
kenvandineand you?13:03
pittiI'm getting a cold (argh), but otherwise quite well13:05
seb128kenvandine, hey, had a good w.e?13:05
kenvandinei did13:05
pittikenvandine: does the CI test run again automatically? I added a commit message back then and clicked on that jenkins link, but I didn't see another test run13:06
kenvandineno, but the ci test did show success.  so i marked it as approved13:06
kenvandineso the merger will run13:06
kenvandinedidrocks, do you know if we'll see an update of ubuntu-ui-toolkit for raring?13:07
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didrockskenvandine: not sure, quite busy with other stuffs, why?13:38
didrockskenvandine: something to ask to cyphermox who is in charge of his stack13:38
kenvandinedidrocks, it includes styling changes to PageStack that i need for gwibber13:44
kenvandineand i am going to file an MIR for that today :)13:44
kenvandinealthough i haven't really looked at the packaging yet...13:44
kenvandinecyphermox, ^^13:45
didrockskenvandine: btw webapps… still in manual publishing mode for days and days :/13:45
didrocksdespite the pings13:45
didrocks(not really happy)13:45
kenvandinedidrocks, you mean the package split?13:46
didrockskenvandine: no, the daily release job13:46
kenvandinei'm looking, i thought i manually published that already13:46
didrocksthanks kenvandine13:47
didrockskenvandine: it looks wrong to me looking at it btw13:47
didrockskenvandine: the change in symbols was done manually, not automatically13:47
didrocksand list a version > of the changelog one13:47
didrocksit should have been 0replaceme13:47
didrocksso that the daily release change for the right version13:47
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seb128mterry, hey, had a good w.e?14:10
mterryseb128, sort of.  I was a bit sick and still am, but hopefully can work fine14:11
seb128mterry, I looked at the unity/autopilot issues this morning, found out the buggy commit and Trevinho fixed the issue (it's r2222) ... can you kick a retry or unity build/daily landing?14:11
seb128mterry, oh ok, get better!14:11
seb128retry of*14:11
mterryseb128, yup14:15
xnoxdidrocks: default priority should be Optional, instead of extra?! Agree, disagree, keep as it is?14:54
didrocksxnox: completely agree :-)14:54
* didrocks is always nagging seb128 about it :p14:54
* seb128 couldn't care less :p14:56
ogra_^^^ compromise14:57
seb128time for some exercice, be back in ~1h14:59
xnoxdidrocks: why are we purging debian/source/format ? to mix-and-match how it's build? (native and non-native)15:01
didrocksxnox: hum, you don't really need, you can put it to 1.015:01
didrocksxnox: I don't really care as long as it's not 3.0 ;)15:02
xnoxdidrocks: how / when are we going to land libhybris? as these packages depend on it....15:21
didrocksxnox: ogra_ was telling it's not needed. ogra_ ?15:22
ogra_huh ?15:22
* ogra_ cant remeber saying such a thing ... 15:22
didrocksogra_: libhybris is a runtime dep, right?15:22
didrocksnot build time?15:22
xnoxogra_: platform-api & qtubuntu-sensors at the moment build-dep on libhybris. And both of them are compat/wrapper/provider libs around libhybris by the looks of things.15:22
ogra_we need the ubuntu side of libhybris  pakckaged15:22
didrocksand so if we have the ubuntu-platform api built15:22
xnox(as well as other)15:23
ogra_not the android side though15:23
ogra_(sine thats armel and built at android image buildtime)15:23
ogra_i'm not sure if rsalverti probably has plans to do it differently though15:23
didrocksogra_: the ubuntu-side is arch:any?15:23
* xnox is confused why those packages build-dep on libhybris though.....15:23
ogra_didrocks, good question15:23
xnoxlibhybris looks arch:any as well to me (looking at the upstream code)15:23
ogra_root@localhost:/# dpkg -l|grep hybris15:24
ogra_ii  libhybris                                    0.61-0phablet1                                          armhf        Allows to run bionic-based HW adaptations in glibc systems - libs15:24
ogra_ii  libhybris-test                               0.61-0phablet1                                          armhf        Allows to run bionic-based HW adaptations in glibc systems - tests15:24
xnoxafterall android does run on i386 atoms (?!)15:24
ogra_thats what i get on my phone15:24
xnoxfrom a ppa, not from raring archive though.15:24
ogra_root@localhost:/# apt-cache showsrc libhybris|grep ^Arch15:25
ogra_Architecture: any15:25
ogra_yeah, its any atm15:25
ogra_and we will roll x86 userspace if we actually make a qemu image work ...15:25
xnoxdidrocks: are we landing _that_ daily though?15:25
ogra_so it needs to be any15:25
xnox(or daily landing, but actually manually merging when we want updates?!)15:26
didrocksxnox: we will do as if. But I guess we'll land that daily in a ppa for raring15:26
didrocksxnox: ah, you meant libhybris?15:26
ogra_i'm not really sure how safe it is to land it inependently from the adnroid side15:26
xnoxdidrocks: yeah, libhybris.15:26
didrocksogra_: would be good if one of you can dig into that15:26
didrocksxnox: so, we have two choices, for things we are not upstream for:15:26
xnoxogra_: you get the work-item =)15:26
didrocks- either do the manual upload way15:27
ogra_well, it woyld help if we discussed that in a channel where any of the devs are :P15:27
didrocks- on demand release, with a merge in a branch that is our "ubuntu trunk"15:27
* didrocks is on 100 scopes, not really on that as a matter of urgency TBH15:27
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mlankhorstLaney: then suddenly it was 10°c here o.O15:58
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jbichaseb128: I guess bug 1153567 is approved then? I have the .plka we need for setting the hostname in gnome-control-center17:24
ubot2Launchpad bug 1153567 in ubuntu-system-service (Ubuntu) "[FFE] Use systemd-services rather than ubuntu-system-service systemdcompatibility code" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115356717:25
seb128jbicha, it's approved yes ...profiles should be in the desktop-privelege package, not in the sources17:25
jbichaseb128: but this .plka is just a rewrite of the one included in gnome-control-center since we're not using the new policykit for raring17:26
seb1283.6 depends on the new polkit?17:26
seb128that doesn't make sense17:26
seb128the new polkit was out yet at the time?17:26
jbichayes and of course GNOME uses the latest stuff they can...17:27
jbichaon the other hand I hit bug 1156074 which should block the systemd-services transition17:28
ubot2Launchpad bug 1156074 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[raring] after updates, i965 driver won't load" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115607417:28
seb128jbicha, that's a kernel bug afaik17:29
seb128nothing to do with systemd-services17:29
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Laneypitti: still here perchance?17:33
LaneyI notice that you never get PrepareForSuspend(false) signalled from logind after resuming and I'm wondering if that's because of the fallback pm-utils stuff17:34
* Laney does a little hax17:34
jbichaseb128: well the problem that I saw was that I had systemd-services installed without libpam-systemd17:36
seb128jbicha, would need to check with pitti, there is a second FFE about logind17:38
Laneythat will get seeded17:38
seb128see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/115322417:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 1153224 in systemd "[FFE] Move to logind for session tracking" [Wishlist,New]17:38
seb128we will either to transition to logind17:39
seb128or drop it from syste17:39
seb128or drop it from systemd-services17:39
jbichaok I'll just wait then unless you had somewhere you wanted me to put my g-c-c patch17:40
seb128jbicha, no I didn't, thanks17:42
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chrisccoulsonjibel, did you say that the autopkgtests are done with 1GB or 2GB of RAM?17:54
jibelchrisccoulson, 217:54
chrisccoulsonjibel, and there's no swap either?17:55
jibelchrisccoulson, no swap17:55
chrisccoulsonjibel, i wonder whether the tests do hi OOM. i'm trying to figure out random failures like https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/raring-ppa-adt-ubuntu_mozilla_daily_ppa-firefox-trunk/ARCH=i386,label=adt/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/dom.media.tests/mochitest/test_peerConnection_bug840344_html/, but they don't happen when i run locally with 4GB17:56
chrisccoulsonand that test failure was followed shortly afterwards by a crash17:56
chrisccoulsonwhich is suspicious...17:56
chrisccoulsonjibel, in fact, at the bottom of the log:17:57
chrisccoulsonout of memory: 0x0000000000070800 bytes requested17:57
chrisccoulsoni didn't notice that before ;)17:57
jibelchrisccoulson, that's what I suspect too but didn't do much investigation. I'll increase the amount of memory for firefox tests17:58
chrisccoulsonjibel, thanks17:59
* didrocks waves good evening18:08
jbichaseb128: gnome-calculator 3.7.92 is out with the renamed .desktop, do you need to fix the Unity test again before I upload?18:11
seb128likely yes18:11
seb128mterry, cyphermox: ^18:11
seb128some test is using gnome-calculator.desktop, we will need them back on gcalctool.desktop18:12
Laneypitti: Hmm, so you only get the False ones in response to an org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager JobRemoved signal but we'll never have that18:14
cyphermoxseb128: ok18:29
mterryseb128, guh18:41
seb128mterry, don't give me that guh look!18:41
mterrycyphermox, are you doing that or shall I?18:42
cyphermoxmterry: I can18:49
cyphermoxseb128: where do these tests live? unity?19:10
jbichacyphermox: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/unity/autopilot_gcalctool_rename/+merge/15106319:11
cyphermoxok, just reverting that?19:13
jbichayes please19:13
cyphermoxjbicha: is there a bug open for that?19:17
seb128cyphermox, what was just said ;-)19:27
cyphermoxI suck?19:28
cyphermoxseb128: sorry, I don't follow what you mean by that19:31
chrisccoulsonhi jibel, any idea why the links to the 2 test failures on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/raring-ppa-adt-mozillateam_firefox_next-firefox/4/ARCH=i386,label=adt/ give a 404?19:34
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seb128cyphermox, sorry, walked by between dinner and dessert ;-)19:49
cyphermoxyeah, is fine19:49
seb128cyphermox, I was just acking the "just need to revert that commit once gnome-calcultator is updated"19:49
cyphermoxso you mean you mentioned the bug aleady? I can't see it19:49
cyphermoxwhen is that going to be done?19:49
seb128whenever you wants19:49
* cyphermox doesn't especially like that kind of X depends on Y19:49
cyphermoxit gets more painful with daily release19:50
seb128that's a trivial .90 -> .92 GNOME update19:50
cyphermoxbut we're fixing a bug; this is after feature freeze19:50
cyphermoxI'd just want it to be tracked for the commit too19:50
seb128cyphermox, if you are ready to get the unity test updated just tell jbicha that it's ok to upload gnome-calculator19:50
seb128cyphermox, it's a bit unfortunate that there was this renaming and renaming back on the .desktop unity picked for its tests19:51
cyphermoxis that only going to be run for unity or are other things using unity's autopilot tests, beside indicators?19:51
seb128just reverting the commit mentioned before19:51
seb128that was the only one19:51
jibelchrisccoulson, there is a delay between the notification (sent by the internal server) and the results on the public instance19:54
chrisccoulsonjibel, ah, thanks19:55
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jbichacyphermox: no we hadn't a filed a bug on the Ubuntu side for the issue20:08
cyphermoxjbicha: that's fine, I did20:19
cyphermoxmterry: wanna review? https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/unity/revert-gcalctool/+merge/15392320:36
mterrycyphermox, sue20:36
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margadesrt, you around?  It's me with weird issues again :)22:06
margaTwo users are telling me their screensavers left the bus during the weekend.  I got one apport report from one of them, and apparently it's dconf related: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5626553/22:06
margaWith "left the bus" I mean this syslog error message: gnome-session[4387]: WARNING: Detected that screensaver has left the bus22:07
desrt'left the bus' :)22:07
desrti'm not sure that's a serious problem?22:07
margayeah, that's a very weird message.  It's associated with signal 7 (Bus Error)22:08
desrtare you using NFS?22:08
desrtor ecryptfs...22:08
margamaybe :)22:09
desrtsigbus in dconf code is almost always (maybe _always_) caused by the user not having a fully-functional XDG_RUNTIME_DIR22:09
margait's possible that the kerberos credentials timed out or something similar.22:09
desrtsince you're on precise i assume that XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not setup properly22:09
margalet me check taht.22:09
desrtso that means that the user's homedir is used as a fallback22:09
desrtif ~ is NFS or ecryptfs you will get bus errors from time to time22:09
margayes, at least in one case ~ is NFS22:10
desrtdconf grew improved NFS support this cycle22:10
margaconfirmed for the other user as well.22:10
desrtbut only if XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is supported :(22:10
desrtand i guess it doesn't help you anyway if you're stuck on precise22:11
margaBut we have like half our users on NFS, and we don't have all the screensavers leaving the bus22:11
desrti think 'left the bus' is my new favourite euphemism for 'failed horribly'22:12
desrtthis issue has been known to periodically occur with NFS or ecryptfs for a while22:13
desrtbasically it happens when a file on the NFS server gets replaced and the clients are left looking at a stale copy22:13
desrtwith read() or write() you would get ESTALE22:13
margayou mean the .dconf copy?22:13
desrtbut with mmap() you get SIGBUS22:13
desrti mean the dconf database file22:14
desrtare you sort of going through old dconf bugs lately and you found these?22:14
desrtor did both of them just happen all of the sudden?22:14
margaThis happened this weekend.22:15
marga2 users in the same weekend.22:15
desrtand you never saw it before?22:15
* desrt wonders what changed....22:15
margaSo for this to happen, they would need to have accessed their dconf settings from some other machine, right?22:15
desrtmaybe.  i'm not entirely clear on what happens here.22:15
margaIt might be that they haven't been running precise for long.  We just finished the migration.22:15
margaLet me check that22:16
desrtwhen a client has open file handles and it deletes or replaces the open file, it's supposed to do this weird renaming trick22:16
desrtso that fixes the problem if you make the change from the same machine22:16
desrtit's indeed possible that multiple logins could be the cause of this22:16
margaSo, one of them is a very recent precise user, the other one has been using precise for more than 6 months.22:17
desrtanyway... i'm just about to head out for the night22:19
desrtbut we've known about this issue for a very long time22:19
desrtgetting an SRU to fix precise might be difficult but we could discuss what to do22:19
margaOk, I'll keep digging into this, thanks for the imput.22:19
desrtfind out about the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR variable being set (or not) on precise22:19
desrtand file a bug with all the infos22:19
cyphermoxjbicha: still around?23:57
jbichacyphermox: yes23:59
cyphermoxjbicha: did you upload gnome-calculator? I'd be approving the merge for unity tests, so that would land soonish23:59

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