| TheMuso | c | 06:08 |
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| BigWhale | Good Morning everyone. | 06:18 |
| mlankhorst | morning! | 06:19 |
| pitti | Good morning | 06:34 |
| BigWhale | Who do I vent to if I want to vent about Nautilus? :/ | 06:38 |
| jibel | good morning | 07:47 |
| didrocks | salut jibel | 07:48 |
| jibel | bonjour didrocks | 07:48 |
| * didrocks grrr at magners | 07:49 | |
| jpds | Anyone else have problems on raring where a full-screen application, isn't really full-screen? | 08:02 |
| didrocks | jpds: yeah, known issue, fixed in trunk, waiting for mterry to publish unity | 08:03 |
| tjaalton | didrocks: hey, who was it again that was supposed to look into the issue where some unity/compiz settings get reset on upgrade? | 08:37 |
| didrocks | tjaalton: I think smspillaz had an idea on what is causing it | 08:38 |
| tjaalton | ah | 08:38 |
| tjaalton | ok I'll ping him later | 08:39 |
| === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr_ | ||
| didrocks | :) | 08:40 |
| pitti | RAOF: are you aware of the colord autopkgtest failure? looks like colord has FTBFSed for a while | 08:55 |
| RAOF | pitti: No, I'm not; also, I see the most recent colord in my archives? | 08:55 |
| pitti | some CDSensor.../ cd_sensor_* unknown symbols | 08:55 |
| pitti | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-colord/11/ARCH=i386,label=adt/artifact/results/log | 08:56 |
| RAOF | Looks like it's pretending to be on kFreeBSD? | 08:59 |
| seb128 | hey desktopers | 08:59 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:59 |
| RAOF | pitti: Why hasn't that stopped propagation from raring-proposed to raring? | 08:59 |
| pitti | RAOF: britney doesnt' look at autopkgtest yet | 08:59 |
| seb128 | salut pitti | 09:00 |
| RAOF | Aha, that would be why. | 09:00 |
| seb128 | hey RAOF | 09:00 |
| RAOF | Ok, I'll look at colord tomorrow. I've been meaning to make that autopkgtest a bit more awesome anyway. | 09:00 |
| RAOF | pitti: Thanks! | 09:01 |
| pitti | ah, thanks! | 09:01 |
| Laney | hallo! | 09:03 |
| pitti | hey Laney | 09:04 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 09:06 |
| Laney | hey pitti, seb128 | 09:06 |
| Laney | did you have good weekends? | 09:06 |
| pitti | quite fine indeed, thanks! and you? | 09:06 |
| seb128 | w.e was quite ok here, weather was grey and rainy though | 09:06 |
| Laney | not so bad, managed to get out on the bike in the gaps in the rain | 09:07 |
| pitti | it was actually quite sunny here (but cold) | 09:07 |
| pitti | sunny enough for ice cream, anyway (inside) | 09:07 |
| pitti | but it's swowing again now, yay | 09:08 |
| pitti | snowing, too | 09:08 |
| Laney | spring starts on Wednesday, no fear ;-) | 09:09 |
| mlankhorst | :D | 09:10 |
| * mlankhorst sends waves of snow Laney's way | 09:10 | |
| Laney | :< | 09:11 |
| mlankhorst | spring soon! | 09:14 |
| mlankhorst | lets wrap up this winter | 09:14 |
| czajkowski | morning folks | 09:49 |
| czajkowski | would anyone be able to share any light on why I do an update on Raring, it's breaking my virtual Box so I have to kick it each time via http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5624797/ | 09:50 |
| ogra_ | czajkowski, #ubuntu-kernel perhaps ? | 09:51 |
| czajkowski | ok cheers ogra_ | 09:51 |
| ogra_ | looks like a module issue | 09:51 |
| mitya57 | let's have virtualbox broken in every release! | 09:52 |
| * mitya57 wonders when will someone sponsor lp:~mitya57/ubuntu/precise/virtualbox/4.1.12-dfsg-2ubuntu0.3 for him | 09:52 | |
| === tkamppeter__ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| jibel | didrocks, I filed bug 1156540 for the issue we had this morning | 10:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1156540 in cowdancer (Ubuntu) "cowdancer deletes bind-mounted directories" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1156540 | 10:14 |
| didrocks | jibel: merci! | 10:15 |
| czajkowski | didrocks: any idea where to send mitya57 to so they can get their branch sponsored | 10:18 |
| didrocks | czajkowski: sorry, do you have some context? :-) which projects? | 10:19 |
| czajkowski | 09:52 < mitya57> let's have virtualbox broken in every release! | 10:19 |
| czajkowski | 09:52 * mitya57 wonders when will someone sponsor lp:~mitya57/ubuntu/precise/virtualbox/4.1.12-dfsg-2ubuntu0.3 for him | 10:19 |
| Laney | it's already in the sponsor queue | 10:19 |
| didrocks | czajkowski: they should just follow the sponsorship process :) | 10:19 |
| didrocks | ah, so it's already in the queue :) | 10:19 |
| czajkowski | Laney: didrocks cheers I didn't know :) | 10:20 |
| Laney | someone will get to it soon; four days isn't overly long to wait (unfortunately?) | 10:20 |
| didrocks | :) | 10:20 |
| mitya57 | that's not urgent for me (at all), but the large sponsoring queue %Bis%B a problem | 10:26 |
| mitya57 | oops, that was *is* :) | 10:27 |
| seb128 | mitya57, the sponsoring queue is sort of under control | 10:27 |
| seb128 | it was close from 40 items on friday | 10:27 |
| mlankhorst | \o/ | 10:28 |
| seb128 | with a stack of "needs packaging" bugs | 10:28 |
| pitti | robru, didrocks: oh, friends is apparently part of the daily autolanding -- how does one fix the broken autopkgtests? | 10:29 |
| pitti | I guess I shouldn't just manually upload? | 10:29 |
| didrocks | pitti: just propose a branch upstream :) | 10:29 |
| didrocks | and it will be in tomorrow daily release, published if ken acks it | 10:29 |
| pitti | didrocks: oh, is the packaging part of the upstream branch? | 10:29 |
| didrocks | pitti: right | 10:29 |
| pitti | urgh | 10:29 |
| pitti | didrocks: d'accord, merci ! | 10:30 |
| didrocks | pitti: de rien :) | 10:30 |
| didrocks | pitti: make dist doesn't dist the pakcaging | 10:30 |
| didrocks | but I don't have the time to give the full rationale again :) | 10:30 |
| pitti | no worries | 10:30 |
| didrocks | pitti: python3-dbusmock is in universe, do you think it can go to main? | 10:37 |
| pitti | didrocks: bug 1154126 | 10:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1154126 in python-dbusmock (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-dbusmock" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154126 | 10:37 |
| pitti | it was approved, so feel free to promote | 10:38 |
| didrocks | excellent! :) | 10:38 |
| didrocks | thanks pitti. Will promote once indicator-messages published | 10:38 |
| didrocks | pitti: because it already happened more than once that prepromotion was demoted… | 10:38 |
| pitti | robru, kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/friends/fix-autopkgtest/+merge/153749, s'il vous plaît | 10:57 |
| lool | tjaalton: Hey, since recent updates xrandr detects a VGA display attached on my laptop, but nothing is connected; how could I check whether this is kernel or xorg related? | 11:49 |
| lool | I've read dmesg, but I wasn't able to spot informtion from the i915 logs | 11:50 |
| tjaalton | lool: it's a kernel regression, 20afbda209d708 is needed from linus | 11:50 |
| tjaalton | boot -12, it should work | 11:50 |
| lool | tjaalton: ok, so known/reported and being fixed already, thanks | 11:50 |
| tjaalton | known, not fixed yet | 11:50 |
| lool | tjaalton: is this something we could auto-test for? I guess it's super hardware specific | 11:51 |
| tjaalton | lool: aiui it's oly on gen4 hw, what do you have? | 11:51 |
| tjaalton | *only | 11:52 |
| tjaalton | yeah dunno how to autotest hw specific stuff, other than having each gen represented in some lab | 11:52 |
| lool | tjaalton: I have super old intel | 11:53 |
| lool | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) | 11:53 |
| lool | not sure how to find a more useful name for it | 11:53 |
| tjaalton | yeah it's fourth generation | 11:54 |
| lool | Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD | 11:55 |
| tjaalton | the kernel stable series picked up an incomplete set of patches to fix some bug, missing this commit | 11:55 |
| lool | tjaalton: just curious, are we testing new kernel / xorg stacks against all hardware revisions in our cert lab? | 11:56 |
| tjaalton | don't think so | 11:57 |
| tjaalton | probably should know though :) | 11:57 |
| lool | sounds bad not to leverage this to try to catch bugs | 11:57 |
| lool | (even if this particular bug might not be covered because we might not have this particular class of hardware) | 11:58 |
| didrocks | xnox: hey, do you know when steve or anyone on your team will look at the ubuntu-platform source? | 12:06 |
| didrocks | xnox: as it's the first one, maybe would be better to get this one in first :) | 12:06 |
| === mitya57_ is now known as mitya57 | ||
| xnox | didrocks: ack. I think it will end up being me doing all the vorlon's tasks on that blueprint. | 12:06 |
| didrocks | xnox: well, at least, you will bring consistency between MP :) | 12:07 |
| xnox | didrocks: I did this one as "simple" trial run. Will look at others in a moment ;-) | 12:07 |
| didrocks | xnox: I don't really have time to review them right now properly (but feel free to continue, first look, it sounds fine) | 12:07 |
| didrocks | thanks xnox :) | 12:07 |
| didrocks | xnox: oh, i'm a little bit pendantic about on dep per line though | 12:07 |
| didrocks | xnox: and trailing , so that next diff doesn't have 2 lines when adding something | 12:08 |
| xnox | didrocks: ack. ack. Not sure who is doing MIR to land it into raring though. I believe vorlon volunteered, and not sure if that got delegated yet or not. | 12:08 |
| didrocks | also, you miss the info on debian/control | 12:08 |
| xnox | didrocks: patches to wrap and sort are welcome! | 12:08 |
| * xnox did run it... unless you want further tweaks to it. | 12:08 | |
| xnox | wrap-and-sort --didrocks-mode | 12:08 |
| xnox | aliased to --pedantic | 12:09 |
| didrocks | xnox: well, the rest sounds fine, I would appreciate if you have the time to finish this :-) | 12:09 |
| didrocks | xnox: can wrote the comment on the MP, one sec | 12:09 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| didrocks | xnox: commented :) | 12:13 |
| xnox | didrocks: thanks a lot ! will fix up. | 12:14 |
| didrocks | xnox: thanks to you :-) | 12:14 |
| seb128 | mitya57, it's fine to use the serie name without -proposed for SRUs nowadays | 12:29 |
| seb128 | just for info | 12:29 |
| mitya57 | seb128: thanks, I forgot about that | 12:30 |
| kenvandine | pitti, thanks! | 13:03 |
| pitti | hey kenvandine, how are you? | 13:03 |
| kenvandine | great | 13:03 |
| kenvandine | and you? | 13:03 |
| pitti | I'm getting a cold (argh), but otherwise quite well | 13:05 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey, had a good w.e? | 13:05 |
| kenvandine | i did | 13:05 |
| pitti | kenvandine: does the CI test run again automatically? I added a commit message back then and clicked on that jenkins link, but I didn't see another test run | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | no, but the ci test did show success. so i marked it as approved | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | so the merger will run | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, do you know if we'll see an update of ubuntu-ui-toolkit for raring? | 13:07 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| didrocks | kenvandine: not sure, quite busy with other stuffs, why? | 13:38 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: something to ask to cyphermox who is in charge of his stack | 13:38 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, it includes styling changes to PageStack that i need for gwibber | 13:44 |
| kenvandine | and i am going to file an MIR for that today :) | 13:44 |
| kenvandine | although i haven't really looked at the packaging yet... | 13:44 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, ^^ | 13:45 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: btw webapps… still in manual publishing mode for days and days :/ | 13:45 |
| didrocks | despite the pings | 13:45 |
| didrocks | (not really happy) | 13:45 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, you mean the package split? | 13:46 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: no, the daily release job | 13:46 |
| kenvandine | i'm looking, i thought i manually published that already | 13:46 |
| didrocks | thanks kenvandine | 13:47 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: it looks wrong to me looking at it btw | 13:47 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: the change in symbols was done manually, not automatically | 13:47 |
| didrocks | and list a version > of the changelog one | 13:47 |
| didrocks | it should have been 0replaceme | 13:47 |
| didrocks | so that the daily release change for the right version | 13:47 |
| === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley | ||
| seb128 | mterry, hey, had a good w.e? | 14:10 |
| mterry | seb128, sort of. I was a bit sick and still am, but hopefully can work fine | 14:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, I looked at the unity/autopilot issues this morning, found out the buggy commit and Trevinho fixed the issue (it's r2222) ... can you kick a retry or unity build/daily landing? | 14:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, oh ok, get better! | 14:11 |
| seb128 | retry of* | 14:11 |
| mterry | seb128, yup | 14:15 |
| xnox | didrocks: default priority should be Optional, instead of extra?! Agree, disagree, keep as it is? | 14:54 |
| didrocks | xnox: completely agree :-) | 14:54 |
| * didrocks is always nagging seb128 about it :p | 14:54 | |
| * seb128 couldn't care less :p | 14:56 | |
| ogra_ | Extoptional | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | ^^^ compromise | 14:57 |
| seb128 | time for some exercice, be back in ~1h | 14:59 |
| xnox | didrocks: why are we purging debian/source/format ? to mix-and-match how it's build? (native and non-native) | 15:01 |
| didrocks | xnox: hum, you don't really need, you can put it to 1.0 | 15:01 |
| didrocks | xnox: I don't really care as long as it's not 3.0 ;) | 15:02 |
| xnox | didrocks: how / when are we going to land libhybris? as these packages depend on it.... | 15:21 |
| didrocks | xnox: ogra_ was telling it's not needed. ogra_ ? | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | huh ? | 15:22 |
| * ogra_ cant remeber saying such a thing ... | 15:22 | |
| didrocks | ogra_: libhybris is a runtime dep, right? | 15:22 |
| didrocks | not build time? | 15:22 |
| xnox | ogra_: platform-api & qtubuntu-sensors at the moment build-dep on libhybris. And both of them are compat/wrapper/provider libs around libhybris by the looks of things. | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | we need the ubuntu side of libhybris pakckaged | 15:22 |
| didrocks | and so if we have the ubuntu-platform api built | 15:22 |
| xnox | (as well as other) | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | not the android side though | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | (sine thats armel and built at android image buildtime) | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | i'm not sure if rsalverti probably has plans to do it differently though | 15:23 |
| didrocks | ogra_: the ubuntu-side is arch:any? | 15:23 |
| * xnox is confused why those packages build-dep on libhybris though..... | 15:23 | |
| ogra_ | didrocks, good question | 15:23 |
| xnox | libhybris looks arch:any as well to me (looking at the upstream code) | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | root@localhost:/# dpkg -l|grep hybris | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | ii libhybris 0.61-0phablet1 armhf Allows to run bionic-based HW adaptations in glibc systems - libs | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | ii libhybris-test 0.61-0phablet1 armhf Allows to run bionic-based HW adaptations in glibc systems - tests | 15:24 |
| xnox | afterall android does run on i386 atoms (?!) | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | thats what i get on my phone | 15:24 |
| xnox | from a ppa, not from raring archive though. | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | root@localhost:/# apt-cache showsrc libhybris|grep ^Arch | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | Architecture: any | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | yeah, its any atm | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | and we will roll x86 userspace if we actually make a qemu image work ... | 15:25 |
| xnox | didrocks: are we landing _that_ daily though? | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | so it needs to be any | 15:25 |
| xnox | (or daily landing, but actually manually merging when we want updates?!) | 15:26 |
| didrocks | xnox: we will do as if. But I guess we'll land that daily in a ppa for raring | 15:26 |
| didrocks | xnox: ah, you meant libhybris? | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | i'm not really sure how safe it is to land it inependently from the adnroid side | 15:26 |
| xnox | didrocks: yeah, libhybris. | 15:26 |
| didrocks | ogra_: would be good if one of you can dig into that | 15:26 |
| didrocks | xnox: so, we have two choices, for things we are not upstream for: | 15:26 |
| xnox | ogra_: you get the work-item =) | 15:26 |
| didrocks | - either do the manual upload way | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | well, it woyld help if we discussed that in a channel where any of the devs are :P | 15:27 |
| didrocks | - on demand release, with a merge in a branch that is our "ubuntu trunk" | 15:27 |
| * didrocks is on 100 scopes, not really on that as a matter of urgency TBH | 15:27 | |
| === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea | ||
| mlankhorst | Laney: then suddenly it was 10°c here o.O | 15:58 |
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | ||
| jbicha | seb128: I guess bug 1153567 is approved then? I have the .plka we need for setting the hostname in gnome-control-center | 17:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1153567 in ubuntu-system-service (Ubuntu) "[FFE] Use systemd-services rather than ubuntu-system-service systemdcompatibility code" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1153567 | 17:25 |
| seb128 | jbicha, it's approved yes ...profiles should be in the desktop-privelege package, not in the sources | 17:25 |
| jbicha | seb128: but this .plka is just a rewrite of the one included in gnome-control-center since we're not using the new policykit for raring | 17:26 |
| seb128 | 3.6 depends on the new polkit? | 17:26 |
| seb128 | that doesn't make sense | 17:26 |
| seb128 | the new polkit was out yet at the time? | 17:26 |
| jbicha | yes and of course GNOME uses the latest stuff they can... | 17:27 |
| jbicha | on the other hand I hit bug 1156074 which should block the systemd-services transition | 17:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1156074 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[raring] after updates, i965 driver won't load" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1156074 | 17:28 |
| seb128 | jbicha, that's a kernel bug afaik | 17:29 |
| seb128 | nothing to do with systemd-services | 17:29 |
| === leonmarincowitz is now known as Lionthinker | ||
| Laney | pitti: still here perchance? | 17:33 |
| Laney | I notice that you never get PrepareForSuspend(false) signalled from logind after resuming and I'm wondering if that's because of the fallback pm-utils stuff | 17:34 |
| * Laney does a little hax | 17:34 | |
| jbicha | seb128: well the problem that I saw was that I had systemd-services installed without libpam-systemd | 17:36 |
| seb128 | jbicha, would need to check with pitti, there is a second FFE about logind | 17:38 |
| Laney | that will get seeded | 17:38 |
| seb128 | see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1153224 | 17:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1153224 in systemd "[FFE] Move to logind for session tracking" [Wishlist,New] | 17:38 |
| seb128 | we will either to transition to logind | 17:39 |
| seb128 | or drop it from syste | 17:39 |
| seb128 | or drop it from systemd-services | 17:39 |
| jbicha | ok I'll just wait then unless you had somewhere you wanted me to put my g-c-c patch | 17:40 |
| seb128 | jbicha, no I didn't, thanks | 17:42 |
| === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha | ||
| chrisccoulson | jibel, did you say that the autopkgtests are done with 1GB or 2GB of RAM? | 17:54 |
| jibel | chrisccoulson, 2 | 17:54 |
| chrisccoulson | jibel, and there's no swap either? | 17:55 |
| jibel | chrisccoulson, no swap | 17:55 |
| chrisccoulson | jibel, i wonder whether the tests do hi OOM. i'm trying to figure out random failures like https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/raring-ppa-adt-ubuntu_mozilla_daily_ppa-firefox-trunk/ARCH=i386,label=adt/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/dom.media.tests/mochitest/test_peerConnection_bug840344_html/, but they don't happen when i run locally with 4GB | 17:56 |
| chrisccoulson | and that test failure was followed shortly afterwards by a crash | 17:56 |
| chrisccoulson | which is suspicious... | 17:56 |
| chrisccoulson | jibel, in fact, at the bottom of the log: | 17:57 |
| chrisccoulson | out of memory: 0x0000000000070800 bytes requested | 17:57 |
| chrisccoulson | i didn't notice that before ;) | 17:57 |
| jibel | chrisccoulson, that's what I suspect too but didn't do much investigation. I'll increase the amount of memory for firefox tests | 17:58 |
| chrisccoulson | jibel, thanks | 17:59 |
| * didrocks waves good evening | 18:08 | |
| jbicha | seb128: gnome-calculator 3.7.92 is out with the renamed .desktop, do you need to fix the Unity test again before I upload? | 18:11 |
| seb128 | likely yes | 18:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, cyphermox: ^ | 18:11 |
| seb128 | some test is using gnome-calculator.desktop, we will need them back on gcalctool.desktop | 18:12 |
| Laney | pitti: Hmm, so you only get the False ones in response to an org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager JobRemoved signal but we'll never have that | 18:14 |
| cyphermox | seb128: ok | 18:29 |
| mterry | seb128, guh | 18:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, don't give me that guh look! | 18:41 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 18:41 |
| mterry | cyphermox, are you doing that or shall I? | 18:42 |
| cyphermox | mterry: I can | 18:49 |
| cyphermox | seb128: where do these tests live? unity? | 19:10 |
| jbicha | cyphermox: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/unity/autopilot_gcalctool_rename/+merge/151063 | 19:11 |
| cyphermox | ok, just reverting that? | 19:13 |
| jbicha | yes please | 19:13 |
| cyphermox | jbicha: is there a bug open for that? | 19:17 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, what was just said ;-) | 19:27 |
| cyphermox | I suck? | 19:28 |
| cyphermox | seb128: sorry, I don't follow what you mean by that | 19:31 |
| chrisccoulson | hi jibel, any idea why the links to the 2 test failures on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/raring-ppa-adt-mozillateam_firefox_next-firefox/4/ARCH=i386,label=adt/ give a 404? | 19:34 |
| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | ||
| seb128 | cyphermox, sorry, walked by between dinner and dessert ;-) | 19:49 |
| cyphermox | yeah, is fine | 19:49 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, I was just acking the "just need to revert that commit once gnome-calcultator is updated" | 19:49 |
| cyphermox | so you mean you mentioned the bug aleady? I can't see it | 19:49 |
| cyphermox | ok | 19:49 |
| cyphermox | when is that going to be done? | 19:49 |
| seb128 | whenever you wants | 19:49 |
| * cyphermox doesn't especially like that kind of X depends on Y | 19:49 | |
| cyphermox | it gets more painful with daily release | 19:50 |
| seb128 | that's a trivial .90 -> .92 GNOME update | 19:50 |
| cyphermox | ok | 19:50 |
| cyphermox | but we're fixing a bug; this is after feature freeze | 19:50 |
| cyphermox | I'd just want it to be tracked for the commit too | 19:50 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, if you are ready to get the unity test updated just tell jbicha that it's ok to upload gnome-calculator | 19:50 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, it's a bit unfortunate that there was this renaming and renaming back on the .desktop unity picked for its tests | 19:51 |
| cyphermox | is that only going to be run for unity or are other things using unity's autopilot tests, beside indicators? | 19:51 |
| seb128 | just reverting the commit mentioned before | 19:51 |
| seb128 | that was the only one | 19:51 |
| cyphermox | ok | 19:53 |
| jibel | chrisccoulson, there is a delay between the notification (sent by the internal server) and the results on the public instance | 19:54 |
| chrisccoulson | jibel, ah, thanks | 19:55 |
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| jbicha | cyphermox: no we hadn't a filed a bug on the Ubuntu side for the issue | 20:08 |
| cyphermox | jbicha: that's fine, I did | 20:19 |
| cyphermox | mterry: wanna review? https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/unity/revert-gcalctool/+merge/153923 | 20:36 |
| mterry | cyphermox, sue | 20:36 |
| mterry | sure | 20:36 |
| cyphermox | thanks | 20:37 |
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| marga | desrt, you around? It's me with weird issues again :) | 22:06 |
| marga | Two users are telling me their screensavers left the bus during the weekend. I got one apport report from one of them, and apparently it's dconf related: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5626553/ | 22:06 |
| marga | With "left the bus" I mean this syslog error message: gnome-session[4387]: WARNING: Detected that screensaver has left the bus | 22:07 |
| desrt | 'left the bus' :) | 22:07 |
| desrt | hmm. | 22:07 |
| desrt | i'm not sure that's a serious problem? | 22:07 |
| marga | yeah, that's a very weird message. It's associated with signal 7 (Bus Error) | 22:08 |
| desrt | are you using NFS? | 22:08 |
| desrt | or ecryptfs... | 22:08 |
| marga | maybe :) | 22:09 |
| desrt | sigbus in dconf code is almost always (maybe _always_) caused by the user not having a fully-functional XDG_RUNTIME_DIR | 22:09 |
| marga | it's possible that the kerberos credentials timed out or something similar. | 22:09 |
| desrt | since you're on precise i assume that XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not setup properly | 22:09 |
| marga | let me check taht. | 22:09 |
| desrt | so that means that the user's homedir is used as a fallback | 22:09 |
| desrt | if ~ is NFS or ecryptfs you will get bus errors from time to time | 22:09 |
| marga | yes, at least in one case ~ is NFS | 22:10 |
| desrt | dconf grew improved NFS support this cycle | 22:10 |
| marga | confirmed for the other user as well. | 22:10 |
| desrt | but only if XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is supported :( | 22:10 |
| desrt | and i guess it doesn't help you anyway if you're stuck on precise | 22:11 |
| marga | But we have like half our users on NFS, and we don't have all the screensavers leaving the bus | 22:11 |
| desrt | i think 'left the bus' is my new favourite euphemism for 'failed horribly' | 22:12 |
| marga | :) | 22:12 |
| desrt | this issue has been known to periodically occur with NFS or ecryptfs for a while | 22:13 |
| desrt | basically it happens when a file on the NFS server gets replaced and the clients are left looking at a stale copy | 22:13 |
| desrt | with read() or write() you would get ESTALE | 22:13 |
| marga | you mean the .dconf copy? | 22:13 |
| desrt | but with mmap() you get SIGBUS | 22:13 |
| desrt | i mean the dconf database file | 22:14 |
| marga | ok | 22:14 |
| desrt | are you sort of going through old dconf bugs lately and you found these? | 22:14 |
| desrt | or did both of them just happen all of the sudden? | 22:14 |
| marga | This happened this weekend. | 22:15 |
| desrt | huh | 22:15 |
| marga | 2 users in the same weekend. | 22:15 |
| desrt | and you never saw it before? | 22:15 |
| * desrt wonders what changed.... | 22:15 | |
| marga | So for this to happen, they would need to have accessed their dconf settings from some other machine, right? | 22:15 |
| desrt | maybe. i'm not entirely clear on what happens here. | 22:15 |
| marga | It might be that they haven't been running precise for long. We just finished the migration. | 22:15 |
| marga | Let me check that | 22:16 |
| desrt | when a client has open file handles and it deletes or replaces the open file, it's supposed to do this weird renaming trick | 22:16 |
| desrt | so that fixes the problem if you make the change from the same machine | 22:16 |
| desrt | it's indeed possible that multiple logins could be the cause of this | 22:16 |
| marga | So, one of them is a very recent precise user, the other one has been using precise for more than 6 months. | 22:17 |
| desrt | heh | 22:17 |
| desrt | anyway... i'm just about to head out for the night | 22:19 |
| desrt | but we've known about this issue for a very long time | 22:19 |
| desrt | getting an SRU to fix precise might be difficult but we could discuss what to do | 22:19 |
| marga | Ok, I'll keep digging into this, thanks for the imput. | 22:19 |
| marga | input | 22:19 |
| desrt | find out about the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR variable being set (or not) on precise | 22:19 |
| desrt | and file a bug with all the infos | 22:19 |
| desrt | ciao | 22:19 |
| cyphermox | jbicha: still around? | 23:57 |
| jbicha | cyphermox: yes | 23:59 |
| cyphermox | jbicha: did you upload gnome-calculator? I'd be approving the merge for unity tests, so that would land soonish | 23:59 |
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