[00:01] <shauno> owncloud's sync apps seem quite blunt.  moved one folder inside another.  folder is synced to two machines.  each now has two copies of the folder I moved.
[07:10] <knightwise> morning everyone
[08:11] <BigRedS> Good Morning!
[08:14] <redtape-renegade> Good Moro .. Warning will robinson:::  I'm not in a good mood as it's   PG-Tips day today because; I've run out of Twinings Chai Tea /AGAIN!!/  .
[08:55] <popey> redtape-renegade: i prefer the powdered chai, i find the twinings stuff too weak
[09:23] <SuperMatt> any word on a release party?
[09:24] <AlanBell> SuperMatt: well it wasn't clear that there was going to be a release
[09:24] <redtape-renegade> popey,     Twinings Chai 50 Tea Bags (125g) has Cinnamox, QUESTION:: What extra stuff does your's have ?
[09:27] <SuperMatt> but we do know it's being released now
[09:27] <SuperMatt> :D
[09:27] <redtape-renegade> SuperMatt, Certainlt up for discussion ::::                           http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/iom/2013-March/subject.html#start
[09:27] <redtape-renegade> **certainly
[09:28] <SuperMatt> but that's IOM!
[09:28] <redtape-renegade> Oh dear, did you miss the boat :p
[09:28] <SuperMatt> not at all
[09:28] <SuperMatt> I would fly from london city airport :P
[09:29] <SuperMatt> I might drop an email to ubuntu-uk later today
[09:29] <redtape-renegade> O00h pricey, must book a week in advance !
[09:30] <redtape-renegade> AlanBell, Not sure if you'll get a ceratin; 5 GBP NOTE today :D
[09:31] <BigRedS> Release party? What's being released?
[09:31] <redtape-renegade> 13.04  ..
[09:32] <redtape-renegade> should be kernel 3.8.xx
[09:33] <BigRedS> Oh, that's next month isn't it?
[09:34] <redtape-renegade> popey, [09:24:55] Nice if you could get back.
[09:35] <redtape-renegade> BigRedS, Yes, *April 23rd* St Georges Day .. it's the same every yeatr !
[09:35] <SuperMatt> so what you're saying is that we should do the release party on st georges day?
[09:37] <redtape-renegade> perhaps .. the 24th would be usual ..perhaps the 27th or 28th weekend is bettr for getting the DVD's
[09:37] <JamesTait> Happy Monday, all! :-D
[09:38] <BigRedS> DVDs? How very 2000s
[09:38] <redtape-renegade> BigRedS, No that's Mini-CD's.
[09:39] <BigRedS> Weren't they 90s? I'm sure I remember carying DSL around on one of those back before we had USB sticks
[09:40] <redtape-renegade> SuperMatt, BigRedS You tried it on a Mini,Blu-ray yet ? .. It makes a funny noise !!!
[09:40]  * redtape-renegade does a brainfart :S
[09:40] <BigRedS> I don't think I own any optical drives any more
[09:41] <BigRedS> The Internet doesn't get scratched up when you leave it in daft places :)
[09:41] <redtape-renegade> BigRedS, I met a guy on Ubuntu channel this weekend that swears by http://rufus.akeo.ie/
[09:42] <BigRedS> I use unetbootin
[09:42]  * redtape-renegade agrees.
[09:42] <BigRedS> I've never really felt the need to investigate alternatives
[09:42] <directhex> it's 2013. dd an iso to a usb stick, it'll boot
[09:42] <redtape-renegade> dicktracey: ping
[09:43] <redtape-renegade> directhex, 'dd' means to you ?
[09:44] <directhex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[09:44]  * Laney giggles at Dd
[09:45]  * redtape-renegade thought 'dd' meant 'direct drive Xd, soz
[09:45] <BigRedS> directhex: is that generally true of modern ISOs or of modern hardware?
[09:45] <directhex> BigRedS, modern isos.
[09:45] <BigRedS> Ah, cool
[09:46] <directhex> bigcalm, it's possible, if you're careful, to make an iso with multiple overlapping partition tables and descriptors, such that an ISO9660 image is also a MBR partition with an ISO9660 filesystem in partition 1
[09:46] <directhex> or even in partition 3, for latest ubuntu
[09:46] <directhex> in any case, "isohybrid" is the general term
[09:47] <redtape-renegade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5624792/  Not sure where the package is located ??
[09:47] <bigcalm> directhex: erm, thanks
[09:47] <BigRedS> Haha
[09:47] <directhex> er, BigRedS ^^
[09:47]  * bigcalm goes back to sleep :)
[09:48] <redtape-renegade> The Rovers Return goes up in Smokey Tonight ;)
[09:48] <redtape-renegade> Anyone seen Sonita ?
[09:48] <redtape-renegade> !sonita
[09:48] <redtape-renegade> !seen sonita
[09:52] <redtape-renegade> Morning dweaver joan prmr .. It's a snowy one :P
[09:53] <joan> morning red. It certainly is.
[09:54] <dweaver> good morning
[09:55] <redtape-renegade> joan, driving into work today .. I got this message :: https://twitter.com/Isle_of_Man/status/313251565261709314
[09:56]  * redtape-renegade thought it was yesterday ?
[09:58] <popey> redtape-renegade: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003VQXWC8
[09:58] <popey> thats the one I like
[09:58] <redtape-renegade> opening..
[09:59] <redtape-renegade> popey Can I use THAT with this ?      http://www.amazon.co.uk/Premier-Housewares-Diameter-Stainless-Steel/dp/B0052R78JC/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1363600743&sr=1-1-catcorr
[10:00] <popey> why would you need to?
[10:01] <redtape-renegade> I'm not sure my kitchen has the space.  Are they in tea bags ?
[10:01] <ali1234> it's powder. like instant coffee
[10:02] <popey> exactly
[10:03] <redtape-renegade> popey "cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, vanilla"  you do realize *Vanilla* becomes caustic above 95 °C  ??
[10:04] <redtape-renegade> Prb.ly only 2grams anyway :)
[10:04] <popey> I didn't know that.
[10:04] <popey> I rarely heat vanilla
[10:05] <redtape-renegade> So as I dont have a Tea Maker Monkey gadget can I use a sieve ?
[10:05] <popey> as ali1234 said, it's powder, it dissolves
[10:05] <popey> you don't need a tea maker monkey gadget or a sieve
[10:05] <redtape-renegade> oh ok .. I'll order some the, and get back to you . thank-you.
[10:05] <popey> you could get away without a spoon too if your pouring skills are above "cretin level"
[10:06] <ali1234> i usually just use a teapot and teabags
[10:06] <redtape-renegade> **then
[10:06] <popey> this doesn't surprise me for some reason ali1234
[10:06] <popey> do you put the teapot on a tray and take it to your library?
[10:06] <ali1234> haha, no
[10:07] <ali1234> if i do that i forget about it and then 3 mnths later, oh look, a teapot full of mold
[10:07] <redtape-renegade> libre library  ?
[10:08] <redtape-renegade> Thelocal libary still serves those silly little plastic cups .. complete waste of money .. unless you re-use them :)
[10:21] <czajkowski> Vanilla tea is yummy
[10:27] <directhex> expensive vanilla ice cream is yummy
[10:27] <czajkowski> oh so true
[10:29] <directhex> redtape-renegade, it's a basic cost-benefit analysis. reusable cups means having facilities to clean them, and paying a librarian to do the cleaning, and insurance for all the required possible downsides, steam extraction ducts in the new kitchen area, etc etc etc
[10:34] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:35]  * Laney has a whiskey in the jar earworm
[10:36]  * Laney satisfies it
[10:37] <redtape-renegade> directhex, Great morney music on skype, the Library.  #0044 1624 673000
[10:37] <directhex> ... wat?
[10:38] <redtape-renegade> directhex, You were talking about the Librarian...
[10:38] <Azelphur> for those who have been following my epic landlord saga, I had a go at him when he came to collect rent today, he didn't even collect the rent and just ran away :D
[10:39] <redtape-renegade> Azelphur, Morning .. There is a good book for that.
[10:39] <Azelphur> lol
[10:39] <Azelphur> redtape-renegade: is it a thick book that I can hit my landlord with?
[10:39] <redtape-renegade> Yeah, use the phone book under your bed ;)
[10:39] <Azelphur> hehe
[10:40] <Azelphur> https://www.dropbox.com/s/mkr2sl5x4jg6ds5/Rec_2013-03-18-%2810-14-29%29.3gp is the recording, for amusement purposes (skip to 0:27)
[10:40] <directhex> Azelphur, careful, that might have been intentional (he didn't pay! i can evict now!)
[10:40] <redtape-renegade> Use the word "c$nt"
[10:40] <redtape-renegade> opening...
[10:40] <Azelphur> directhex: it'd be hard baring in mind I have the convo recorded and at no point did he request I pay
[10:40] <Azelphur> I simply asked about the repair issues and he ran away.
[10:40] <czajkowski> Azelphur: careful he could also say he was harassed
[10:41] <czajkowski> did you tell him you were recording him also
[10:41] <Azelphur> again, unlikely, recorded :)
[10:41] <Azelphur> nope
[10:41] <czajkowski> aren't you meant to...
[10:41] <Azelphur> not in the privacy of my own home afaik, no
[10:41] <czajkowski> Azelphur: wouldnt it have been easier in the long run to just have moved by now
[10:41] <Azelphur> czajkowski: locked into a 6 month tenancy
[10:41] <czajkowski> I'm sure he'd agree to part with you at this rate
[10:42] <Azelphur> plus I kinda feel sad for the other poor sods who are stuck here and getting screwed over too
[10:42] <Azelphur> I also have to kinda bide my time for a bit, I'm building up money with the goal of buying a place, so I've got a couple of months to burn :)
[10:44] <czajkowski> and drive a landlord crazy
[10:44] <redtape-renegade> Azelphur, I've listened to the clip and it looks like you need to upload things to your printer more often than not ... for this guy.
[10:44] <czajkowski> you're kinda not making it easy for you, him or the tohers tbh
[10:44] <czajkowski> *others
[10:45] <Azelphur> czajkowski: how so? all he needs to do is do the repairs he promised to do and I'd leave him alone
[10:45] <redtape-renegade> Azelphur, I've listened to the clip and it looks like you need to upload things to your printer more often than not ... for this guy.
[10:45] <Azelphur> redtape-renegade: huh?
[10:45] <redtape-renegade> You nee to write to him  m ! :)
[10:46] <Azelphur> yea done that
[10:46] <czajkowski> I think you'd have been better off by now contacting these people and not resorting to recording him tbh. http://www.ltb.gov.on.ca/en/Key_Information/STEL02_111894.html
[10:46] <Azelphur> written, texted, phoning :P
[10:46] <redtape-renegade> **him,   man
[10:46] <Azelphur> czajkowski: I've already contacted health and safety from the council (which is what my solicitor advised me to do)
[10:46] <redtape-renegade> czajkowski, There's nothing wrong with recording your landlord !! it's your temporary property !
[10:47] <czajkowski> *shrugs* fair enough Azelphur just from all the reading of this issue, instead of going the legal way you could have taken the less agressive of tackling it via mediation of landlords and tennants
[10:47]  * czajkowski removes the ! key from redtape-renegade 
[10:47] <Azelphur> czajkowski: perhaps, I didn't know it existed, I actually started off asking shelter what the best approach was, and they said to take the legal route.
[10:48] <redtape-renegade> czajkowski, huh ?
[10:48] <Azelphur> At the end of the day if you say to someone "Move in and I'll do X, Y, and Z" and then you do NONE of it, we all know it's gonna end in tears.
[10:48] <czajkowski> redtape-renegade: re read your last sentence and count the !:)
[10:48] <redtape-renegade> czajkowski, Wow your so sensitive for a girl !
[10:48] <czajkowski> Azelphur: one of the top hits on sorting out landlord and tennant issues
[10:49]  * Azelphur shrugs
[10:49] <czajkowski> redtape-renegade: it has nothing to do with being a girl. don't be silly.
[10:49]  * redtape-renegade slaps himshelf redtape-renegade facepalms.
[10:49] <Azelphur> czajkowski: just to give you some idea, he continually tells tenants to dump on the path to my front door, https://www.dropbox.com/s/jo537hl9dvqcsg7/2013-03-11%2013.30.13.mp4 promised to clean it up 5 months ago when I moved in
[10:49] <Azelphur> one of the many issues :)
[10:50] <Azelphur> it's even worse now, there's used nappies and rotting food and stuff too :)
[10:50] <Azelphur> and that's just one of a long list of around 20 issues
[10:50] <ali1234> help! help! i'm being oppressed
[10:50] <Azelphur> haha :P
[10:51] <Azelphur> ali1234: more like "Your oppressing me and I'm pissed" *oppressor runs away*
[10:52]  * redtape-renegade realizes these are not the SWest Droids you are looking for.
[10:56] <redtape-renegade> I keep getting message back from twitter ppl saying "What is the warning you are typing about ? " https://twitter.com/3rdwiki
[10:57] <redtape-renegade> I think I just change my avatar Azelphur ?
[10:57] <Azelphur> @PrivacyCamp WARNING WILL ROBINSON : THERE WILL BE A MASSIVE FINANCIAL COLLAPSE IN DECEMBER 2013 !!
[10:58] <Azelphur> maybe they mean that?
[10:58] <redtape-renegade> wasn't that a retweet ?
[10:58] <Azelphur> no
[10:58]  * redtape-renegade slaps his galaxyS
[11:00] <redtape-renegade> Azelphur, Do you think I should change my avatar, then ?
[11:00] <Azelphur> up to you :)
[11:00] <redtape-renegade> well I'm opinionating you... ?
[11:00] <Azelphur> help help, I'm being opinionated.
[11:01] <redtape-renegade> Haha
[11:01] <Azelphur> looks fine to me :)
[11:01] <redtape-renegade> coolm, thanks
[11:01] <redtape-renegade> **coll-aid
[11:01] <redtape-renegade> **cool
[11:02] <redtape-renegade> AlanBell, ping I put a mess.age on #ubuntu-uk-meeting  did you get it .. ??
[11:09] <Laney> is it usual that I have to open a new ISA to use next year's allowance?
[11:09] <Laney> I have some 60 day notice account
[11:10] <redtape-renegade> czajkowski, I have replaced the ! key with a | key, thank-you.                         s :¬] IReland still lost by seven points
[11:17] <redtape-renegade> !topic  .. Ahh .. it worx :D
[11:18] <redtape-renegade> .. Whoopsie /topic  should've been.
[11:18]  * Laney blinks
[11:31]  * redtape-renegade goes to Machu Picchu Co :D
[11:31] <redtape-renegade> Permalink: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008CVBZ76
[12:00]  * Laney wonders why his council tax bill wasn't in 12 instalments by default
[12:10] <directhex> Laney, mine's 10 installments
[12:11] <DJones> Laney: THey're always in 10 installments
[12:11] <DJones> I've never seen one in 12 installments
[12:11] <redtape-renegade> Laney, The council, come on ^_^ http://youtu.be/niaG695uaso?t=3m58s
[12:11] <dogmatic69> Bought a HP LaserJet pro 200 colour printer on the weekend. Ubuntu installed it faster than I pugged the thing in
[12:11] <dogmatic69> Was not sure it would even work at all.
[12:12]  * DJones checks the channel topic to see if he's joined #link-spam by mistake
[12:12] <Laney> DJones: it says on the back that you can mail them to request 12
[12:12] <redtape-renegade> DJones, It's just a slight joke :)
[12:12] <DJones> Laney: Must admit, I'ver never heard of anybody doing that
[12:13]  * Laney just did
[12:13] <Laney> 1.9% increaase - 0.1% below the referendum threshold
[12:13] <redtape-renegade> Come on ? Are we really talking about the friggin' council ?
[12:14] <Myrtti> is that somehow subpar to talking about cricket or rugby?
[12:14] <redtape-renegade> definately.
[12:15] <Laney> we should be posting links to jars of coffee on amazon instead
[12:15] <Myrtti> ah I see
[12:16] <redtape-renegade> Laney, That's included in my Superscope ;)
[12:16]  * redtape-renegade has swaparse ;(
[12:17] <redtape-renegade> **swaparse :(
[12:17] <mgdm> pointer to pointer to swaparse?
[12:17] <redtape-renegade> **swamparse :( soz
[12:17] <redtape-renegade> Hi mgmd
[12:18]  * Laney goes elsewhere
[12:18] <Myrtti> I atleast understand the discussion about council, rugby and cricket escape me. And so does most of the other discussion.
[12:18] <mgdm> there's something I don't fancy dereferencing
[12:18] <mgdm> 'lo redtape-renegade
[12:18] <redtape-renegade> mgmd "     'lo   " ??
[12:19] <redtape-renegade> oh hello. gotcha.
[12:19] <mgdm> it's 'mgdm', and 'lo is short for hello
[12:19] <redtape-renegade> I seem to remember you don't chat, long..
[12:20] <mgdm> Heh
[12:20] <mgdm> I'm more active elsewhere
[12:20] <redtape-renegade> you tend to go elsewhere..
[12:21] <redtape-renegade> mgmd, Any twitter -stories , today ?
[12:21]  * redtape-renegade checks his twitter.feed...
[12:22] <mgdm> Nothing hugely exciting that I've seen so far
[12:27] <redtape-renegade> mgdm, Yeah, Let's face it Mondays are as dead as Win95 https://twitter.com/Bfly1972/status/313614582600069120  What's your handle on twitter ?
[12:28] <mgdm> predictably, 'mgdm'
[12:28]  * redtape-renegade scans 4 mgdm 
[12:29]  * mgdm observes a follow notification
[12:30] <redtape-renegade> Yep.. indeedie do.
[12:37] <davmor2> morning all
[12:37] <davmor2> server hdd died on me today :(
[12:40] <knightwise> hey everyone
[12:41]  * redtape-renegade adds Salt to his irish stew and White pepper.
[12:42] <redtape-renegade> MMMmm Lovely-jubly.
[12:53] <Guest27800> /quit
[13:08]  * redtape-renegade looks at 'processing' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBV14-3LT-g
[13:24] <redtape-renegade> davmor2, I ?think when you see a spinning disk happening to make *click noises* you know it's going too fast :D [chortle,chortle] ::   http://bit.ly/Z95DaN
[13:33] <redtape-renegade> AlanBell, pimg
[13:33] <redtape-renegade> AlanBell, ping
[13:39] <czajkowski> redtape-renegade: he may in fact be working, if it's that urgent fire him an email
[13:39] <redtape-renegade> czajkowski, Will do | I'm an idiot, :)
[13:42] <TheOpenSourcerer> redtape-renegade: He is rather busy.
[13:54] <AlanBell> I was busy eating soup
[13:56] <popey> s/eating/drinking/
[13:57] <directhex> consuming
[13:57] <directhex> ingesting?
[13:57] <AlanBell> I used a spoon
[13:57] <AlanBell> lentils and chilli stuff
[13:58] <popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVEHqwLVvpI
[14:03] <czajkowski> ohh new dr. who soon :) loving the new trailer for it
[14:09] <redtape-renegade> Haha , | but I was hopeing for this popey http://instagram.com/p/W_4akPo0y0/  | No, AlanBell, you got my message on #ubuntu-uk-meeting | Brilliant .. do they arrive before or after St. Georges day usually ?
[14:17] <directhex> redtape-renegade, at times it can be hard to track what you're talking about, from message to message.
[14:18] <redtape-renegade> directhex, popey worse on youtube ^#6^
[14:20] <redtape-renegade> directhex, Sometime's you'd have to thnk, sometimes you have to lol  .
[14:21] <ali1234> sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you
[14:23] <popey> I agree with directhex
[14:24] <popey> it's like we're getting every 5th line that redtape-renegade types
[14:28] <directhex> or some subset of lines he thinks, received out of order
[14:28] <directhex> bloody UDP
[14:29]  * redtape-renegade listens to popey & the hex fella
[14:29] <redtape-renegade> Right OK, I will do a test ..
[14:29] <redtape-renegade> How's this one .. ?
[14:29] <redtape-renegade> ...
[14:30] <redtape-renegade> ..
[14:30] <redtape-renegade> .
[14:30] <redtape-renegade>   czajkowski .. FYI | James Nesbitt's got a thing on Ireland @8pm tonight.. if you want to set a postit-alarm .. No hard feelings about the Rugby :)  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2293435/Monroe-star-James-Nesbitt-TV-odyssey-round-land-birth-shatter-old-clich-s.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
[14:30] <redtape-renegade> BRBack with your feedback about it ^
[14:37] <czajkowski> hands up people who is in London in this channel I need a hand :)
[14:38] <jpds> czajkowski: I'm kind of using both of mine at the moment.
[14:38] <czajkowski> jpds: hush you
[14:38] <redtape-renegade> czajkowski, I'm not in london, but have you tried www.192.com    ?
[14:38] <czajkowski> plan B anyone close to london that would consider going to london for an hour of user testing
[14:38] <czajkowski> redtape-renegade: you're about 2 seconds away from being /ignore by me
[14:38] <czajkowski> daubers: fancy some User testing
[14:46] <popey> \o/
[14:46]  * popey has a licorice log
[14:46] <popey> (no, I don't need a doctor)
[14:52] <mungbean> you'll lose your teeth
[14:52] <mungbean> at 50
[14:53] <mungbean> but itll be worth it popey
[14:54] <popey> was yum
[14:55] <directhex> i tend to eat blocks of marzipan
[14:55] <czajkowski> I remember the licorice pipe we used to get with some red sprinkles on the bottom so it looked like a pipe
[14:55] <directhex> i get one for xmas, finish it by new year
[14:56] <redtape-renegade> i get blackjack chew bars for Xmas.
[14:56] <mgdm> blech, marzipan - I hate even the thought of it
[14:58] <redtape-renegade> MMMmm Smarties big tubes are always reduced after xmas .. still got mine :D
[16:23] <^aDaM> Evenings all
[16:28]  * popey blames Daviey for bug 1156223
[17:52] <ikonia> directhex: ping-a-tron
[17:53] <directhex> ikonia, pang
[17:53] <ikonia> need some tedious info, can I nudge you across a PM
[17:54] <directhex> hang on, let me get you a W-931 request form for that
[17:54] <ikonia> I'll get a blood sample ready
[17:55] <MartijnVdS> ikonia: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1234131468/machine-of-death-the-game-of-creative-assassinatio !
[17:55] <ikonia> MartijnVdS: ?
[17:56] <MartijnVdS> ikonia: The Machine of Death just needs a drop of blood.. and it'll tell you how you die.
[17:56] <MartijnVdS> ikonia: And then there's a card game around getting that to actually (not) happen :)
[17:57]  * MartijnVdS backed it
[17:58] <MartijnVdS> Hmm @ goals:
[17:58] <MartijnVdS> $450,000 = PROJECT CANCELLED
[17:58] <MartijnVdS> $450,100 = Project's back on
[18:07] <redtape-renegade> MartijnVdS, How much did you pledge ?
[18:08] <MartijnVdS> $25 + non-US shipping bonus = $35
[18:10] <MartijnVdS> Woo! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-44ARJKcSGM is back
[18:15] <popey> I am 12 what is this
[18:15] <MartijnVdS> popey: it's John Green playing FIFA and making up back stories for the players :)
[18:15] <popey> whois John Green?
[18:15] <MartijnVdS> popey: and having viewers come up with new names
[18:16] <MartijnVdS> popey: author, youtube famous (youtube.com/vlogbrothers)
[18:17] <popey> I find it hard watching people like that who talk fast and erratically
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> on that video, or one of the vlogbrothers ones?
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> or in general
[18:18] <popey> in general
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> He doesn't do it in his books ;)
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> popey: (for instance, http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007Z8ZKS2)
[18:20] <andrewebdev> Hi guys. There used to be courses on the ubuntu store. Which I cannot find anymore. Where can I do a proper course to learn ubuntu server? What I'm looking for is proper training in dev-ops. (I'm a web developer and want to learn more about the environment I'm hositng on, and would like to get into things like Juju)
[18:20]  * popey adds to wishlist
[18:21] <popey> andrewebdev: that course is probably way outdated now
[18:21] <mgdm> andrewebdev: the LPI stuff might be worth looking into - the old Ubuntu course was based on that, I think
[18:21] <MartijnVdS> popey: "gifting is not yet offered in the Kindle store"
[18:22] <mgdm> andrewebdev: https://www.lpi.org/
[18:22] <MartijnVdS> mgdm: 'twas
[18:22] <popey> andrewebdev: jcastro is the juju guy
[18:22] <popey> he might know
[18:22] <andrewebdev> thx mgdm, I found that via google just after you mentioned it :)
[18:22] <popey> if you join #ubuntu-community-team they may have some suggestions
[18:23] <mgdm> I'd not heard of Juju before
[18:23] <andrewebdev> juju is my biggest interest really
[18:23] <czajkowski> they seem to do juju stuff in the states at events, not seen anything in EU
[18:24] <czajkowski> https://juju.ubuntu.com/
[18:24] <andrewebdev> I want to try and move my entire dev/deployment workflow over to juju
[18:24] <andrewebdev> but at the same time I do need to know more about server stuff
[18:24] <andrewebdev> thx popey, will ask in that channel
[19:54] <AlanBell> looks like gnome-shell has gone back to a window switcher for alt-tab rather than an application switcher
[19:54] <AlanBell> alt+` gets you to the application level switcher
[19:54] <AlanBell> this is excellent
[20:21] <SuperEngineer> just [temporarily] enabled backports & proposed again.  There it was, my wish come true.
[20:21] <SuperEngineer> Gwibber updates - get it out of proposed & into Precise release... it works!
[20:22] <mungbean> gwibber - thats a blast from the past
[20:23] <SuperEngineer> yeh - guess so if uyou love facebook! i don't [but daughter does
[20:23] <mungbean> last time i used it, it only showed 30% of facebook updates
[20:23] <mungbean> but that was 3 years ago
[20:24] <SuperEngineer> I keep an eye via Gwibber... saves me using fb proper... recently it lost full api access
[20:24] <mungbean> i need to learn a cli for extracing photos. shotwell sucks
[20:24] <SuperEngineer> ...back again now ;)
[20:28]  * redtape-renegade swats a fly:                                         /°
[21:12] <redtape-renegade> I've tried this Add-on for Foxy , but it seems to max my CPU pretty quickly.| Anyone else had that problem ? http://bit.ly/XlyBVL : they got an update recently :| https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/collusion/
[22:04] <BiggerRedS> mungbean, a CLI tool for doing what to images?
[22:23] <czajkowski> evening folks
[22:37] <BigRedS> Good Morning!
[22:38] <czajkowski> BigRedS: boo
[22:38] <redtape-renegade> czajkowski, BigRedS  Do you think this is a step in the right direction AFas training ?  |   http://thingsquare.com/training/
[22:39] <czajkowski> right direction of what?
[22:39] <redtape-renegade> training for hardware..
[22:41] <czajkowski> I've no idea about hardware sorry
[22:41] <BiggerRedS> That first stock photo puts me off
[22:42] <BiggerRedS> Upgrading my system to the point where report-bug would let me file a bug tipped us over our monthly download limit :(
[22:42] <BiggerRedS> I *knew* just ranting all over the internet was the better plan