[00:38] <Sarvatt> mlankhorst: nope thats too recent, armhf has been broken over a month
[00:39] <Sarvatt> plus the patch is from our packages :)
[07:09] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: it's the patch we used for fixing up 9.1 branch :P
[07:44] <mlankhorst> ah well lets see if I can build mesa on panda without running into oom killer
[07:54] <RAOF> Hah!
[07:54] <mlankhorst> over nfs, no less!
[08:22] <tjaalton> hmm, some kernel regression on intel
[08:22] <tjaalton> in -13
[09:06] <mlankhorst> awesome
[10:02] <mlankhorst> oh indeed mesa is a different error
[11:07] <mlankhorst> what do we need from mesa on arm though? I can only imagine softpipe being useful in it's current state
[11:09] <mlankhorst> maybe once robclark's free arduino driver works that would change
[11:09] <ogra_> swrat has always worked ... just urlta slow
[11:09] <ogra_> *swrast
[11:10] <ogra_> bah
[11:10] <ogra_> *ultra
[11:10] <mlankhorst> I know but is there any point building anything but swrast?
[11:10] <ogra_> theoretically llvmpipe ... but last time i tried it was unusable
[11:10] <ogra_> no idea if there were any improvements since quantal
[11:11] <mlankhorst> llvmpipe in general, or llvmpipe on arm?
[11:11] <ogra_> on arm indeed
[11:11] <mlankhorst> I don't know, lets see..
[11:11] <ogra_> my x86 machines have proper drivers :)
[11:12] <ogra_> (most of my arm ones too ... but most of them arent distributable ...)
[11:12] <mlankhorst> nothing arm specific in llvmpipe
[11:12] <mlankhorst> so it would have to be in llvm-3.2
[11:13] <ogra_> then i doubt it makes sense to have it right now ...
[11:13] <ogra_> after all most of the arm world will likely be Mir'ed andyway and use android drivers soon
[11:14] <ogra_> i think we'll only keep the tegra3 binary stuff around in the long term ... for desktop reference images on the nexus7
[11:14] <ogra_> (FSVO long term .... read that as  until 14.04)
[11:15] <mlankhorst> I want to be able to run without blobs, even if the result may not be as performant
[11:15] <ogra_> as performant ... heh
[11:15] <ogra_> usually its unusable ... 
[11:16] <ogra_> (like an animated slideshow)
[11:16]  * mlankhorst had to disable smp because it kept bugging :/
[11:17] <ogra_> on your panda ?
[11:17] <mlankhorst> yeah
[11:17] <mlankhorst> black screen, then everything gone
[11:17] <ogra_> hmm, what release ?
[11:17] <mlankhorst> precise
[11:17] <ogra_> hmm, havent seen such issues on mine with precise
[11:18] <mlankhorst> do you have the ti-omap ppa enabled?
[11:18] <ogra_> ugh, no
[11:18] <ogra_> using the in archive stuff indeed
[11:18] <ogra_> the ppa is only intresting for video codecs ... 
[11:19] <ogra_> which we cant have in the archive due to incompatible gstreamer patches
[11:19] <mlankhorst> :D
[11:19] <mlankhorst> it enables some other stuff like bluetooth support iirc
[11:20] <ogra_> well, it also ships a TI kernel that might have breakage we dont know about 
[11:20] <ogra_> (like SMP perhaps ?)
[11:20] <mlankhorst> probably
[11:20] <mlankhorst> could also be the powervr drivers
[11:20] <ogra_> well, panda desktop is on the way to be out to death anyway ...
[11:20] <ogra_> s/out/put/
[11:21] <mlankhorst> yeah but as long as it's alive it's useful for testing mechanics on arm
[11:22] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: hah my fix worked
[11:23] <mlankhorst> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5624961/
[11:23] <mlankhorst> fixes building on armhf
[11:23] <mlankhorst> no idea about armel
[11:23] <mlankhorst> do we still support that?
[11:30] <mlankhorst> dh_install: libgl1-mesa-dri missing files (dri/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libllvmradeon*.so), aborting
[11:30] <mlankhorst> oops, almost :)
[11:43] <ogra_> mlankhorst, nexus7 is better for testing mechanics
[11:44] <mlankhorst> except I leave my panda on 24/7 ;)
[11:46] <ogra_> pandas are great as builders ... but due to the driver situation we'll drop them soon
[11:47] <ogra_> for UI testing the nvidia stuff simply works better and causes way less maintenance
[11:47] <mlankhorst> yeah but the wired network is nice, I keep all my stuff on nfs
[11:47] <mlankhorst> and doing that over wireless is crazy
[11:47] <ogra_> yeah, true 
[11:48]  * ogra_ would love to see us supporting chromebooks ... but there the driver situation is even worse ... 
[11:48] <ogra_> you would have USB 3.0 though 
[11:49] <ogra_> so it pfferse some decent disk throuoghput ...
[11:49] <ogra_> *offers
[11:53] <mlankhorst> ok armhf built..
[11:57] <mlankhorst> raring no longer supports armel right?
[12:00] <ogra_> support was dropped in precise
[12:01] <ogra_> ( we still left it building alongside but it wasnt an official arch ... with quantal the archive completely vanished)
[12:01] <mlankhorst> looks like quantal still had some.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/armel
[12:01] <mlankhorst> raring otoh 0
[12:02] <mlankhorst> ah well I'm not going to worry about ftbfs then, I'll just disable building llvm-3.2 and mesa renamed for armel if it hapens
[12:02] <ogra_> yeah, just ignore it 
[12:02] <ogra_> we dont encourage anyone to ever use armel :)
[12:03] <mlankhorst> but andwoooidddd
[12:03] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: yeah, sounds like a valid fix..
[12:03] <ogra_> what about android ? :)
[12:03] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: yeah I should probably figure out why st_gl_api_create is in libmesagallium, but meh!
[12:16] <mlankhorst> oh fun, I get to run piglit again 6x
[19:22] <fexilal> Greetings
[19:22] <fexilal> are the nvidia 310 series drivers going to be included soon?
[19:44] <bjsnider> included in what
[19:51] <fexilal> in ubuntu-x-swat
[19:55] <mlankhorst> isn't it already in the archive though?
[20:20] <fexilal> nope, the latest version in the archive (that I can find) is 304.84
[20:22] <bjsnider> fexilal, search for nvidia-experimental-310
[20:22] <bjsnider> you have to have hardware that is not too old
[20:26] <bjsnider> no support for hardware before the geforce 8