[00:18] <Hummus> hello
[00:32] <Lumpy> len, you about?
[00:32] <Lumpy> i screwed up on my nick againg
[00:32] <Lumpy> er again
[00:34] <Lumpy> kk, i am going to get my nick right
[00:34] <Lumpy> i got the beta, gonna install tomorrow
[00:49] <Len-nb> Nick? Lump|AFK ?
[01:05] <Hummus> So basically, to get involved in the dev group, I just help out withtesting the beta?
[01:14] <wft> hello
[11:29] <zequence> micahg: I've updated ubuntustudio-look to include a new wallpaper with required info, including licensing. The author wished to another version of creative commons
[11:29] <zequence> lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-look/UbuntuStudio
[11:29] <zequence> I'd appreciate if you could take a look, and upload it for us
[11:30] <zequence> I don't expect we'll be making any more changes before final release
[11:32] <zequence> This looked updated enough as an example to me http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/
[11:32] <zequence> That's what I followed adding the new copyright info. 
[17:26] <micahg> zequence: ok, will have a look later tonight
[21:50] <zequence> Ah, damn. Patching hell
[21:56] <len> zequence, what is the app behind "videos"? is that totem?
[21:56] <zequence> len: Yes
[21:56] <len> crashes for me
[21:57] <len> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
[21:57] <len> totem: nv04_state_frag.c:248: get_texenv_mode: Assertion `0' failed.
[21:57] <len> Aborted (core dumped)
[21:58] <len> bug report
[21:58] <len> Good thing we also include xine.
[21:58] <zequence> totem has been funny for a while for me. Does Xubuntu include totem?
[21:58] <len> no
[22:00] <len> I can't remember what they include (the name) but it had aspect ratio problems in 12.04 which is why we switched.
[22:01] <zequence> totem is usually a pretty good, simple video player
[22:01] <len> It seems to me it has been ok now though
[22:02] <zequence> vcl has also had it's buggy moments. Maybe not on a stable Ubuntu release though
[22:02] <len> totem has crashed when used by firefox to play mp3s, used as context to play a video or just started from the command line.
[22:03] <len> vlc has worked for me, I tend to keep a few and if one doesn't work for a video I try another
[22:04] <zequence> mplayer has probably seen better days. mplayer2 I guess is the current one, but is it good?
[22:05] <len> I don't know what is the best any more. libav may be a part of the problem too.
[22:05] <zequence> Good thing about mplayer is that it's really nice controlling it from the cli
[22:05] <zequence> Well, starting it at least
[22:05] <len> vlc or xine work too.
[22:06] <len> but mplayer has a simpler CLI if I remember right
[22:06] <zequence> It doesn't have a gui by defauil
[22:06] <zequence> You need to add one separately
[22:07] <zequence> It just shows the video
[22:10] <zequence> The command line options are pretty extensive too
[22:16] <zequence> This patch seems to work, as I have tested it, but I'm trying to figure out what I'm seeing here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~zequence/ubuntu/precise/jackd2/fix-for-956438/view/head:/debian/patches/jackdbus-stop-fix.patch
[22:18] <zequence> Seems like the files needed some text-displacement, or someting
[22:18] <zequence> This is what I was hoping it would look like http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~zequence/ubuntu/quantal/jackd2/fix-for-956438/view/head:/debian/patches/jackdbus-stop-fix.patch
[22:27] <len> zequence, ya the second one looks a lot better.
[22:28] <zequence> The second is the jackd2 quantal source, while the first is precise
[22:29] <zequence> There's a bit of commit history between them, so I guess I should just feel lucky the patch even worked
[22:29] <len> Ah, different jack versions too then?
[22:30] <zequence> Both 1.9.8, but the quantal source is a git snapshot
[22:30] <zequence> So, a bit of time between them
[22:31] <zequence> The patch is a combination of two git commits
[22:31] <zequence> ..which falktx pointed out for me, many months ago by now
[22:31] <len> pretty much a different version. What is happening then is you are upgrading part of P to Q, but not the whole thing.
[22:32] <zequence> No, I'm updating both P and Q with a bug fix, which only appears later
[22:32] <len> Does p build if the q diff is set against it.
[22:33] <zequence> They both build fine
[22:33] <zequence> I've uploaded them to a PPA
[22:33] <zequence> the bugfix works
[22:33] <len> Works is a strong case :)
[22:34] <zequence> In P, when I applied the change - which was another patch, they were applied successfully, but with some added diff
[22:35] <zequence> Getting late, so I'm not explaining very well
[22:35] <len> anyway, I'm gong to end up off line for a bit... I am finally upgrading my server to P... I need this drive to back it up first.
[22:38] <zequence> micahg: Don't forget to upload -looks before user interface freeze (if you have the time). Do we need a bug report for that, btw? I guess there's some time tomorrow too. I'll be going to sleep now anyway
[22:42] <zequence> len-dt: I documented what I've been doing so far here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/StableReleaseUpdates
[22:42] <zequence> It's probably not the best source right now, but at least it's a start
[22:43] <len-dt> I should look at it and do default settings for P
[22:44] <len-dt> It would fix about 3 bugs... only thing I am not sure of is if I need to redo them one at a time
[22:44] <zequence> len-dt: What bugs?
[22:45] <len-dt> help icon in menu goes nowhere.
[22:45] <len-dt> some apps in the wrong place.
[22:46] <zequence> I can see the point in changing that for 12.04.3
[22:47] <zequence> Don't think we need to create patches for those though
[22:47] <zequence> I think my SRU description is being very focused on a single case right now
[22:47] <micahg> zequence: nah, if it doesn't violate FF, no bug needed, I'll try to get to it tonight
[22:47] <zequence> micahg: Ok, great
[22:49] <len-dt> LP: #966539,
[22:49] <zequence> len-dt: In the case of our own sources, we make a bug report - following the SRU process. Then, do a bzr branch of that release. Do the changes, and push as I describe further down
[22:50] <len-dt> That part is done.
[22:50] <len-dt> It is just that it is not all one bug or fix. 
[22:51] <zequence> len-dt: That was uploaded to quantal, then?
[22:52] <len-dt> It is all already in quantal and I have home built the package and tried it.
[22:52] <len-dt> Heres the changelog:
[22:52] <len-dt>  * Create branch for precise LTS bug fixes
[22:52] <len-dt>   * Moved extra mixers to mixers submenu from media playback menu.
[22:52] <len-dt>     (LP: #966539)
[22:52] <len-dt>   * Moved other uninstalled apps from media playback menu to proper place
[22:52] <len-dt>     within Audio Production menu.
[22:52] <len-dt>   * Moved Category AudioEditing to Audio Production so that Ardour
[22:52] <zequence> So, now you want it into precise as well, right?
[22:52] <len-dt>     packages from Ardour website are in the right place.
[22:52] <len-dt>   * Remade Photography menu icon.
[22:52] <len-dt>   * Added MIDI utilities menu.
[22:52] <len-dt>   * Created icon for MIDI menu.
[22:52] <len-dt>   * Reorganized Audio Production menu to group items logically by use.
[22:52] <len-dt>   * Removed Zynjacku from effects menu. Did not add to the sound generators
[22:53] <len-dt>     menu because it is no longer maintained and it function is allready
[22:53] <len-dt>     covered by Calf Plugin Pack.
[22:53] <len-dt>   * Corrected *.directory files for Accessories, Education, Network in
[22:53] <len-dt>     the menu file. Left over from Gnome DE.
[22:53] <len-dt>   * Corrected help icon in menu to fix document not found. Corrected
[22:53] <len-dt>     text from Xfce to UbuntuStudio.
[22:53] <len-dt> ya
[22:53] <len-dt>  lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-default-settings/UbuntuStudio.precise
[22:53] <zequence> So, I'm going to edit the bug report, and set it to also affect another distribution
[22:53] <zequence> Wait, no
[22:54] <len-dt> I think they already do
[22:55] <zequence> If you look at Bug #956438 
[22:55] <zequence> You see both Precise and Quantal
[22:57] <len-dt> Ok I see what you mean.
[22:57] <zequence> len-dt: That was done before quantal was release though, right?
[22:58] <len-dt> Yes.
[22:58] <zequence> Which makes it just a bug fix, rather then a SRU
[22:58] <len-dt> How do I set the bug for fixed in quanal and not in precise
[22:59] <zequence> It was fixed in the development release before quantal, so we don't really need to worry about that
[22:59] <zequence> Now we just need to make a SRU for precise
[23:00] <len-dt> Ya, but first the bug has to be open for precise right?
[23:00] <zequence> I think it might be good to have a look at the SRU process as well
[23:01] <zequence> ..first
[23:01] <zequence> I won't be able today, but I'm working on several SRUs now. Will add this one to the list
[23:01] <zequence> oh, it's already added
[23:02] <len-dt> Ok, if I need to start over and do One fix at a time, that is ok. I am willing to do that.
[23:02] <len-dt> There are really three of them in there and some other misc house keeping things too.
[23:03] <len-dt> I did it that way becasue that was how it ws done in quantal
[23:07] <zequence> ok, that's it for me. See you tomorrow
[23:07] <len-dt> bye