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| user__ | hi | 07:39 |
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| user__ | anyone here good with arm stuff | 07:39 |
| user__ | hello? | 07:42 |
| Tm_T | user__: that is rather vague question, try ask what you actually do need instead? | 07:42 |
| user__ | hi anyone able to give me a hand with a small issue im having i got AOKP installed and am trying to install backtrack. im getting an error message saying cant find bin/bash | 07:47 |
| user__ | im sure its something simple | 07:47 |
| user__ | ? | 07:50 |
| ppisati | ogra_: so, what was the outcome of the "omap4 desktop image" situation? i remember a last week talk in #distro, when people told you we could drop it and you said you were going to send an email | 10:12 |
| ppisati | ogra_: isn't it? | 10:12 |
| ogra_ | still waiting for the final word | 10:13 |
| ogra_ | there was some discussion if we should just keep them as is with no support at all ... or if we should look into making them ubuntu touch images | 10:14 |
| ppisati | ogra_: with no pvr you mean, right? | 10:21 |
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| wgpenney | Anybody have experience in setting up a sound card for nvidia-tegra3, seems to be missing the tegra codex | 14:44 |
| wgpenney | currently running xubuntu 12.10 | 14:45 |
| ogra_ | works fine on the nexus7 images | 14:48 |
| ogra_ | out of the box | 14:48 |
| wgpenney | pavcontrol is not showing a sound card configured on my TF300T | 14:50 |
| ogra_ | so check on the alsa level make sure that works fine etc etc | 14:50 |
| wgpenney | what's the command? how do I check the level? | 14:53 |
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| XorA | from memory on the transformer the HDMI is the first sound card | 15:06 |
| XorA | and the analouge the second | 15:07 |
| XorA | which is reverse from most PCs and confuses people | 15:07 |
| XorA | aplay -l to list all soundcards | 15:08 |
| wgpenney | Thanks, aplay -l hangs after displaying card 0: Tegra [HDA NVIDIA Tegra], device 3: HDMI 0 | 15:12 |
| XorA | wgpenney: I bet your kernel has oopsed | 15:16 |
| wgpenney | is there a log for the kernel oops? or is this only available when debugging the kernel. | 15:21 |
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| darkfader | i think oopses can't be logged in most cases | 15:21 |
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| darkfader | you can try using netconsole, but even that might not see them | 15:22 |
| wgpenney | Thanks for your help guys, I relay this back to the kernel developer. | 15:24 |
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| lithiumjake | does anyone know if there is a version to tcl/tk 8.6 compiled for ubuntu/arm? | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | lithiumjake, all ubuntu packages are built for arm | 15:59 |
| hrw | ogra_: 'all' | 16:05 |
| hrw | ogra_: chromium-browser went >22? | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | hrw, well, all that arent actually x86 specific ... like syslinux | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | nope, but there is a chromium-browser binary package | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | i didnt say they are all recent ;) | 16:06 |
| hrw | ;) | 16:06 |
| XorA | hehe | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | but in natty the FTBFS list was actually zero | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | which means all package have an arm equivalent in the archive | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | not necessarily matching the current source though | 16:06 |
| infinity | ogra_: The FTBFS list in natty wasn't zero... | 16:24 |
| ogra_ | well, then it was lucid | 16:25 |
| ogra_ | we had it at zero in one release | 16:25 |
| infinity | It's never been zero, AFAIK. The outdates list is pared down to zero when people pay attention (which Colin and I started doing for oneiric, and hadn't been done previously for years...) | 16:27 |
| infinity | s/oneiric/precise/ possibly. Can't remember which sprint we noticed the world was crufty. | 16:27 |
| ogra_ | i know for sure it was zero at some point | 16:28 |
| ogra_ | with quite some effort from doko in the last days before release | 16:28 |
| ogra_ | lucid, maverick or natty ... i cant remember which | 16:28 |
| infinity | That would be actually impossible. | 16:28 |
| infinity | That's all I'm saying. :P | 16:28 |
| infinity | There have always been packages in the archive that are arch:any but FTBFS on some arches. | 16:29 |
| ogra_ | http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ was empty i should say | 16:29 |
| infinity | And given that I only knocked out some of those from ARM after I came back to the company, they clearly didn't build before that. | 16:29 |
| ogra_ | not sure if that covers 100% | 16:29 |
| ogra_ | but i always thought it did | 16:29 |
| ogra_ | we massively celebrated that in the arm team | 16:29 |
| ogra_ | thats why i remember it so well | 16:30 |
| infinity | Hrm. Well, then, possibly some things built but built incorrectly. :P | 16:30 |
| ogra_ | thats entirely possible | 16:30 |
| infinity | Like, anything that needed get/setcontext before glibc 2.15 happened. | 16:30 |
| infinity | But those should have been FTBFS. | 16:30 |
| ogra_ | it was the release where NCommander made fpc build the last minute too | 16:30 |
| ogra_ | (and i think nobody ever tested if it worked ) | 16:31 |
| ogra_ | i'm pretty sure he didnt :) | 16:31 |
| infinity | I'm still dubious of the FTBFS empty claim, given that I know a non-trivial chunk of the archive just plain couldn't build on ARM. | 16:32 |
| infinity | Unless doko went and artificially arch-restricted a bunch of packages. :/ | 16:32 |
| infinity | Which would not only be "cheating", but wrong. | 16:32 |
| ogra_ | i dont think he did thatm no | 16:33 |
| infinity | And I find myself wondering now if there may still be a bunch that need to be undone. | 16:33 |
| ogra_ | i always worked along the above website | 16:33 |
| ogra_ | and i know we always had a few packages on there until that one specific release | 16:33 |
| * ogra_ twiddles thumbs ... watching a repo sync of a 7G repo fight with the meta ./update script | 16:35 | |
| ogra_ | i really wouldnt mind fiddling with android stuff ... IF THE SROURCE TREES WOULDNT ALWAYS PULL GIGS OF USELESS STUFF ! | 16:37 |
| ogra_ | sight | 16:37 |
| XorA | Google makes money from network traffic :-) | 16:37 |
| ogra_ | heh | 16:38 |
| ogra_ | i should check if there are little ads between the normal network packages, eh ? :) | 16:39 |
| XorA | that progress counter probably has sumbliminal ones | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | heh | 16:40 |
| lithiumjake | see, that's why the tcl community rocks so hard, someone built a tcl 8.6 tclkit for arm just for kicks :) | 16:41 |
| infinity | ? | 16:42 |
| lithiumjake | i had asked earlier if anyone built tcl 8.6 for ubuntu-arm (ppa or whatever). | 16:43 |
| infinity | I take it this isn't free software that ships in Debian/Ubuntu, which would mean it built on all arches? :P | 16:43 |
| infinity | tcl8.6 is in the archive. | 16:43 |
| ogra_ | as i said above :) | 16:43 |
| infinity | apt-get install tcl8.6 | 16:43 |
| infinity | Oddly enough. | 16:43 |
| XorA | thats just not 1337 enough obviously ;-) | 16:44 |
| infinity | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tcl8.6/8.6.0-1 | 16:44 |
| lithiumjake | i'm running 12.04 in chrooted environment on a chromebook | 16:45 |
| lithiumjake | but be snide, that's cool | 16:45 |
| infinity | It might have helped if you specified that? | 16:46 |
| lithiumjake | E: Unable to locate package tcl8.6 | 16:46 |
| infinity | But the tcl8.6 source package probably compiles without modification on precise. | 16:46 |
| ogra_ | lithiumjake, universe is enabled ? | 16:46 |
| infinity | ogra_: It's not in precise. | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | oh | 16:47 |
| infinity | ogra_: tcl8.6 is brand new. | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | ah right, i only checked on my chromebook | 16:47 |
| XorA | apt-get install -t raring tcl8.6 | 16:47 |
| lithiumjake | perhaps when my linux-foo is better, I help with things like this | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | that has never seen anything else but raring :) | 16:47 |
| infinity | Still, the question was "does anyone know if there is a version to tcl/tk 8.6 compiled for ubuntu/arm", which was pretty non-specific about versions. :P | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 16:48 |
| lithiumjake | XorA, would that command be safe to try to install 8.6 on 12.04? | 16:48 |
| infinity | XorA: That assumes raring enabled in his sources.list, which is probably not what he wants. | 16:48 |
| lithiumjake | oic | 16:48 |
| infinity | XorA: Not without some healthy pinning (or just upgrading wholesale) | 16:48 |
| XorA | lithiumjake: without pinning that would be a very dangerous command | 16:48 |
| lithiumjake | okay, thanks | 16:49 |
| XorA | raring seems pretty stable on chromebook | 16:49 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 16:50 |
| infinity | Well, he's running in a chroot anyway, raring may be the better option as a development platform. | 16:50 |
| ogra_ | and faster ... | 16:50 |
| XorA | I never actually tried 12.04, I just used it as a stepping stone to raring | 16:50 |
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| infinity | I still run 12.04 on all my headless/server machines. And will until 14.04 or later, I'm sure. | 16:52 |
| infinity | But raring's been very friendly on my laptops. | 16:52 |
| infinity | Can't complain. | 16:52 |
| ogra_ | yup | 16:53 |
| ogra_ | well, unity and mali dont get along so nicely here | 16:53 |
| XorA | dont have mali working here so couldnt comment | 16:54 |
| ogra_ | funnily the ubity support test screams "DOIT" in your face with big green letters if you run it :) | 16:54 |
| ogra_ | *unity | 16:54 |
| ogra_ | but it leaves me with an empty desktop ... and i was to lazy to find out why this time | 16:55 |
| ogra_ | all other GLES/EGL and composite stuff just works fine thougt | 16:55 |
| XorA | working video accelleration would be nice, but I can wait | 16:55 |
| infinity | I don't have a Chromebook, so can't comment. I'm not one of the cool kids. | 16:55 |
| infinity | (Or, more realistically, I like my laptop(s) and don't need yet another) | 16:56 |
| XorA | I copied *GL* and *mali* from chrome /usr/lib but obviously still missing something | 16:56 |
| ogra_ | you need to hack up the mesa stuff to not take precedence | 16:56 |
| XorA | but if it requires armsoc that makes chromebook unusable for me | 16:57 |
| ogra_ | /etc/ld.so.conf.d ... | 16:57 |
| ogra_ | intresting, for me it works rock solid as long as i dont switch VTs | 16:57 |
| XorA | you need to switch VT to suspend | 16:57 |
| ogra_ | which i dont do anyway | 16:58 |
| ogra_ | ah ... i never suspend either :) | 16:58 |
| ogra_ | havent travelled with my CB yet | 16:58 |
| XorA | works fine with fbdev, so you can switch for travel | 16:58 |
| ogra_ | and even then ... starup time is around 10sec or so | 16:58 |
| ogra_ | so i can as well shut down | 16:58 |
| XorA | yeah boot is lightning fast | 16:59 |
| ogra_ | what i'd really like would be a more recent chromium though | 16:59 |
| ogra_ | FF is unusable on arm ... | 16:59 |
| qengho | :( It might not be long to get a one-off. I think the build-bots are going to have trouble. | 16:59 |
| ogra_ | (it wasnt a few releases ago, i always wonder what happened) | 16:59 |
| XorA | heh I used to run firefox on my Collie SL-5500 | 16:59 |
| ogra_ | i used to use FF with fbdev on my ac100 | 17:00 |
| ogra_ | back then it was fine | 17:00 |
| ogra_ | but the last two releases at least the rendering backme unbearably slow | 17:00 |
| ogra_ | stuttering when scrolling etc | 17:00 |
| XorA | ogra_: odd, seems to be usable here on chromebook | 17:04 |
| ogra_ | did you compare to chromium ? | 17:04 |
| ogra_ | and did you try it on something like G+ | 17:04 |
| XorA | tried on facebook | 17:04 |
| XorA | which is about as bad as it gets | 17:04 |
| ogra_ | seems as soon as some javascript is involved it crawls for me | 17:04 |
| XorA | although I do have adverts disabled | 17:04 |
| ogra_ | well chromium uses mali extensively | 17:05 |
| ogra_ | and supports flash ... so i dont care about ads | 17:05 |
| XorA | chromium certainly faster | 17:08 |
| XorA | and I guess a far test as its non mali vs non mali | 17:08 |
| ogra_ | yeah chromium + mali just flies | 17:09 |
| XorA | oddly enough not in ChromeOS :-( | 17:09 |
| ogra_ | heh, yeah | 17:09 |
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| user__ | anyone able to give me a hand putting ubuntu on android | 17:51 |
| Aceface | anyone able to give me a hand putting ubuntu on android | 17:54 |
| kulve | Aceface: more specific questions may lead to better answers | 17:59 |
| Aceface | trying to install ubuntu on android - http://pastebin.com/WH1NE7fG. : error | 18:00 |
| Aceface | http://pastebin.com/JXRZjy5r ; script | 18:00 |
| Aceface | anyone able to give me a hand putting ubuntu on android | 18:00 |
| Aceface | droid razr rom: AOKP and kernal: 3.0.8-g29cf5e7 /hudsoncm@il93xdroid54 #1 | 18:00 |
| Aceface | any ideas, im not good with scripts, im sure its something simple | 18:02 |
| k1l_ | is it backtrack? or ubuntu? and is it a ARM razr or is it the intel razr i? | 18:03 |
| Aceface | BT arm | 18:04 |
| k1l_ | Aceface: better ask the one you got that script from | 18:04 |
| Aceface | got it from backtrack site | 18:05 |
| ogra_ | so why dont you ask in their channel then ? | 18:06 |
| ogra_ | here hardly anyone knows something about backtrack | 18:06 |
| Aceface | well bt is samething as ubuntu | 18:06 |
| Aceface | its is ubuntu | 18:06 |
| Aceface | people in BT channel are fags lol | 18:07 |
| k1l_ | Aceface: if its ubuntu why its not named ubuntu? :) ask their support. noone here knows what they changed. | 18:07 |
| Aceface | mkay thx anyways | 18:08 |
| sbaugh | >people in BT channel are fags lol | 18:30 |
| ogra_ | sbaugh, watch your language please | 18:30 |
| sbaugh | ogra_: I was just quoting | 18:31 |
| ogra_ | oh | 18:31 |
| ogra_ | sorry, i missed it above | 18:31 |
| ogra_ | so that was to Aceface then | 18:32 |
| ogra_ | sbaugh, thanks :) | 18:32 |
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