=== prp^2 is now known as prpplague === yofel_ is now known as yofel === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [07:39] hi [07:39] anyone here good with arm stuff [07:42] hello? [07:42] user__: that is rather vague question, try ask what you actually do need instead? [07:47] hi anyone able to give me a hand with a small issue im having i got AOKP installed and am trying to install backtrack. im getting an error message saying cant find bin/bash [07:47] im sure its something simple [07:50] ? [10:12] ogra_: so, what was the outcome of the "omap4 desktop image" situation? i remember a last week talk in #distro, when people told you we could drop it and you said you were going to send an email [10:12] ogra_: isn't it? [10:13] still waiting for the final word [10:14] there was some discussion if we should just keep them as is with no support at all ... or if we should look into making them ubuntu touch images [10:21] ogra_: with no pvr you mean, right? === _Lucretia___ is now known as _Lucretia_ === prpplague is now known as prp^2 [14:44] Anybody have experience in setting up a sound card for nvidia-tegra3, seems to be missing the tegra codex [14:45] currently running xubuntu 12.10 [14:48] works fine on the nexus7 images [14:48] out of the box [14:50] pavcontrol is not showing a sound card configured on my TF300T [14:50] so check on the alsa level make sure that works fine etc etc [14:53] what's the command? how do I check the level? === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [15:06] from memory on the transformer the HDMI is the first sound card [15:07] and the analouge the second [15:07] which is reverse from most PCs and confuses people [15:08] aplay -l to list all soundcards [15:12] Thanks, aplay -l hangs after displaying card 0: Tegra [HDA NVIDIA Tegra], device 3: HDMI 0 [15:16] wgpenney: I bet your kernel has oopsed [15:21] is there a log for the kernel oops? or is this only available when debugging the kernel. === dduffey_afk is now known as dduffey [15:21] i think oopses can't be logged in most cases === ieatlint_ is now known as ieatlint [15:22] you can try using netconsole, but even that might not see them [15:24] Thanks for your help guys, I relay this back to the kernel developer. === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti [15:58] does anyone know if there is a version to tcl/tk 8.6 compiled for ubuntu/arm? [15:59] lithiumjake, all ubuntu packages are built for arm [16:05] ogra_: 'all' [16:05] ogra_: chromium-browser went >22? [16:05] hrw, well, all that arent actually x86 specific ... like syslinux [16:05] nope, but there is a chromium-browser binary package [16:06] i didnt say they are all recent ;) [16:06] ;) [16:06] hehe [16:06] but in natty the FTBFS list was actually zero [16:06] which means all package have an arm equivalent in the archive [16:06] not necessarily matching the current source though [16:24] ogra_: The FTBFS list in natty wasn't zero... [16:25] well, then it was lucid [16:25] we had it at zero in one release [16:27] It's never been zero, AFAIK. The outdates list is pared down to zero when people pay attention (which Colin and I started doing for oneiric, and hadn't been done previously for years...) [16:27] s/oneiric/precise/ possibly. Can't remember which sprint we noticed the world was crufty. [16:28] i know for sure it was zero at some point [16:28] with quite some effort from doko in the last days before release [16:28] lucid, maverick or natty ... i cant remember which [16:28] That would be actually impossible. [16:28] That's all I'm saying. :P [16:29] There have always been packages in the archive that are arch:any but FTBFS on some arches. [16:29] http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ was empty i should say [16:29] And given that I only knocked out some of those from ARM after I came back to the company, they clearly didn't build before that. [16:29] not sure if that covers 100% [16:29] but i always thought it did [16:29] we massively celebrated that in the arm team [16:30] thats why i remember it so well [16:30] Hrm. Well, then, possibly some things built but built incorrectly. :P [16:30] thats entirely possible [16:30] Like, anything that needed get/setcontext before glibc 2.15 happened. [16:30] But those should have been FTBFS. [16:30] it was the release where NCommander made fpc build the last minute too [16:31] (and i think nobody ever tested if it worked ) [16:31] i'm pretty sure he didnt :) [16:32] I'm still dubious of the FTBFS empty claim, given that I know a non-trivial chunk of the archive just plain couldn't build on ARM. [16:32] Unless doko went and artificially arch-restricted a bunch of packages. :/ [16:32] Which would not only be "cheating", but wrong. [16:33] i dont think he did thatm no [16:33] And I find myself wondering now if there may still be a bunch that need to be undone. [16:33] i always worked along the above website [16:33] and i know we always had a few packages on there until that one specific release [16:35] * ogra_ twiddles thumbs ... watching a repo sync of a 7G repo fight with the meta ./update script [16:37] i really wouldnt mind fiddling with android stuff ... IF THE SROURCE TREES WOULDNT ALWAYS PULL GIGS OF USELESS STUFF ! [16:37] sight [16:37] Google makes money from network traffic :-) [16:38] heh [16:39] i should check if there are little ads between the normal network packages, eh ? :) [16:40] that progress counter probably has sumbliminal ones [16:40] heh [16:41] see, that's why the tcl community rocks so hard, someone built a tcl 8.6 tclkit for arm just for kicks :) [16:42] ? [16:43] i had asked earlier if anyone built tcl 8.6 for ubuntu-arm (ppa or whatever). [16:43] I take it this isn't free software that ships in Debian/Ubuntu, which would mean it built on all arches? :P [16:43] tcl8.6 is in the archive. [16:43] as i said above :) [16:43] apt-get install tcl8.6 [16:43] Oddly enough. [16:44] thats just not 1337 enough obviously ;-) [16:44] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tcl8.6/8.6.0-1 [16:45] i'm running 12.04 in chrooted environment on a chromebook [16:45] but be snide, that's cool [16:46] It might have helped if you specified that? [16:46] E: Unable to locate package tcl8.6 [16:46] But the tcl8.6 source package probably compiles without modification on precise. [16:46] lithiumjake, universe is enabled ? [16:47] ogra_: It's not in precise. [16:47] oh [16:47] ogra_: tcl8.6 is brand new. [16:47] ah right, i only checked on my chromebook [16:47] apt-get install -t raring tcl8.6 [16:47] perhaps when my linux-foo is better, I help with things like this [16:47] that has never seen anything else but raring :) [16:47] Still, the question was "does anyone know if there is a version to tcl/tk 8.6 compiled for ubuntu/arm", which was pretty non-specific about versions. :P [16:48] yeah [16:48] XorA, would that command be safe to try to install 8.6 on 12.04? [16:48] XorA: That assumes raring enabled in his sources.list, which is probably not what he wants. [16:48] oic [16:48] XorA: Not without some healthy pinning (or just upgrading wholesale) [16:48] lithiumjake: without pinning that would be a very dangerous command [16:49] okay, thanks [16:49] raring seems pretty stable on chromebook [16:50] yeah [16:50] Well, he's running in a chroot anyway, raring may be the better option as a development platform. [16:50] and faster ... [16:50] I never actually tried 12.04, I just used it as a stepping stone to raring === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun [16:52] I still run 12.04 on all my headless/server machines. And will until 14.04 or later, I'm sure. [16:52] But raring's been very friendly on my laptops. [16:52] Can't complain. [16:53] yup [16:53] well, unity and mali dont get along so nicely here [16:54] dont have mali working here so couldnt comment [16:54] funnily the ubity support test screams "DOIT" in your face with big green letters if you run it :) [16:54] *unity [16:55] but it leaves me with an empty desktop ... and i was to lazy to find out why this time [16:55] all other GLES/EGL and composite stuff just works fine thougt [16:55] working video accelleration would be nice, but I can wait [16:55] I don't have a Chromebook, so can't comment. I'm not one of the cool kids. [16:56] (Or, more realistically, I like my laptop(s) and don't need yet another) [16:56] I copied *GL* and *mali* from chrome /usr/lib but obviously still missing something [16:56] you need to hack up the mesa stuff to not take precedence [16:57] but if it requires armsoc that makes chromebook unusable for me [16:57] /etc/ld.so.conf.d ... [16:57] intresting, for me it works rock solid as long as i dont switch VTs [16:57] you need to switch VT to suspend [16:58] which i dont do anyway [16:58] ah ... i never suspend either :) [16:58] havent travelled with my CB yet [16:58] works fine with fbdev, so you can switch for travel [16:58] and even then ... starup time is around 10sec or so [16:58] so i can as well shut down [16:59] yeah boot is lightning fast [16:59] what i'd really like would be a more recent chromium though [16:59] FF is unusable on arm ... [16:59] :( It might not be long to get a one-off. I think the build-bots are going to have trouble. [16:59] (it wasnt a few releases ago, i always wonder what happened) [16:59] heh I used to run firefox on my Collie SL-5500 [17:00] i used to use FF with fbdev on my ac100 [17:00] back then it was fine [17:00] but the last two releases at least the rendering backme unbearably slow [17:00] stuttering when scrolling etc [17:04] ogra_: odd, seems to be usable here on chromebook [17:04] did you compare to chromium ? [17:04] and did you try it on something like G+ [17:04] tried on facebook [17:04] which is about as bad as it gets [17:04] seems as soon as some javascript is involved it crawls for me [17:04] although I do have adverts disabled [17:05] well chromium uses mali extensively [17:05] and supports flash ... so i dont care about ads [17:08] chromium certainly faster [17:08] and I guess a far test as its non mali vs non mali [17:09] yeah chromium + mali just flies [17:09] oddly enough not in ChromeOS :-( [17:09] heh, yeah === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun === XorA is now known as XorA|gone [17:51] anyone able to give me a hand putting ubuntu on android [17:54] anyone able to give me a hand putting ubuntu on android [17:59] Aceface: more specific questions may lead to better answers [18:00] trying to install ubuntu on android - http://pastebin.com/WH1NE7fG. : error [18:00] http://pastebin.com/JXRZjy5r ; script [18:00] anyone able to give me a hand putting ubuntu on android [18:00] droid razr rom: AOKP and kernal: 3.0.8-g29cf5e7 /hudsoncm@il93xdroid54 #1 [18:02] any ideas, im not good with scripts, im sure its something simple [18:03] is it backtrack? or ubuntu? and is it a ARM razr or is it the intel razr i? [18:04] BT arm [18:04] Aceface: better ask the one you got that script from [18:05] got it from backtrack site [18:06] so why dont you ask in their channel then ? [18:06] here hardly anyone knows something about backtrack [18:06] well bt is samething as ubuntu [18:06] its is ubuntu [18:07] people in BT channel are fags lol [18:07] Aceface: if its ubuntu why its not named ubuntu? :) ask their support. noone here knows what they changed. [18:08] mkay thx anyways [18:30] >people in BT channel are fags lol [18:30] sbaugh, watch your language please [18:31] ogra_: I was just quoting [18:31] oh [18:31] sorry, i missed it above [18:32] so that was to Aceface then [18:32] sbaugh, thanks :) === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === XenGi_ is now known as XenGi === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === yofel_ is now known as yofel === tassadar__ is now known as Tassadar === keithzg_ is now known as keithzg