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shadeslayerstgraber: any ideas what could be causing this : http://paste.kde.org/699548/02:28
shadeslayerit also happens with any other mirrors I try02:29
shadeslayerI guess the container's DNS is shot?02:48
stgrabershadeslayer: it appears happy with archive.ubuntu.com though03:15
shadeslayerstgraber: not really03:42
shadeslayerstgraber: http://paste.kde.org/699572/03:42
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pittiGood morning05:41
dholbachgood morning07:47
jibelgood morning07:50
dholbachsalut jibel07:50
jibelsalut dholbach07:50
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__bot__jacksonisaac :  Are you willing to contribute?12:01
jacksonisaacYes12:01
jacksonisaacWhat can I do?12:01
fetzedhey all12:01
__bot__Which is your field?12:01
fetzedUbuntu Desktop amd64 here.12:02
jacksonisaacProgramming12:06
jacksonisaacAlgorithms12:06
Lil12:15
stgrabershadeslayer: you're missing a /ubuntu in the deb URL there12:26
stgrabershadeslayer: http://archive.ubuntu.com/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages should be http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages12:26
fetzedwhere is the best place to upload Hardware Profile?12:48
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gema_roadmr: can  you point me to a page where it explains how to run the checkbox wifi tests?13:17
gema_roadmr: not how to set up the router, but how to actually run them13:17
roadmrgema_: hello!13:17
gema_roadmr: or better yet, where can I have a look at the source code :)13:17
roadmrgema_: sure, let me find something for you13:17
gema_roadmr: thanks13:17
roadmrgema_: oh that's easy :) the actual command that gets run is in a job file, those are in /usr/share/checkbox/jobs13:17
roadmrgema_: you'd be looking at wireless.txt or suspend.txt (for the before and after suspend tests)13:18
gema_roadmr: ack, is that on any raring machine?13:18
roadmrgema_: yep, it should be13:18
gema_ok13:18
roadmrgema_: the command first creates the connection: /usr/share/checkbox/scripts/create_connection13:19
roadmr$WPA_BG_SSID --security=wpa --key=$WPA_BG_PSK13:19
roadmrgema_: then it runs the usual internet_test script:13:19
roadmr/usr/share/checkbox/scripts/internet_test --interface=`nmcli dev status | awk '/802-11-wireless/ {print $1}'`13:20
roadmrgema_: it has a trap to ensure that the connection is deleted at the end, but this I just posted is the meat and potatoes of the test13:20
gema_roadmr: ack13:20
roadmrgema_: and of course you can have a look at the scripts it uses13:20
gema_ok, I will try13:21
gema_thanks for your help13:21
roadmrgema_: two things: this has to run as root, and the $WPA_* variables need to be defined13:21
roadmrgema_: no problem, let me know if you run into trouble, either I or brendand can help13:21
gema_ok13:21
gema_roadmr: do you have a script to define those variables?13:21
gema_roadmr: ohh, you mean my network  details13:22
gema_roadmr: gotcha, no prob13:22
roadmrgema_: yes :) $WPA_BG_SSID is your network's SSID or name13:22
gema_roadmr: ack x)13:22
roadmrgema_: if needed, $WPA_BG_PSK is the password (only needed if --security=wpa, the other option is --security=open)13:23
roadmrgema_: if you look at monitor_wireless_connection, this uses iperf to do actual bandwidth measurements13:24
roadmrgema_: for this to work you need to also set $SERVER_IPERF pointing to another system on the network running iperf, instructions for setting up the iperf server are in the wiki document I sent you13:24
gema_roadmr: ok, I have that one13:24
plarsballoons: hey, on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1303-quality-ubuntuphone it looks like you have a work item for me that was really just a comment that I added, or was there something in that item that you intended for me to do?13:27
plarsballoons: iirc I was just pointing out that there were bug guidelines for that project already, because someone asked if there were guidelines for people wanting to file new bugs13:28
SergioMeneseshi guys! happy hackfest13:29
zygaplars: hey! :)13:30
plarshi zyga13:30
fetzedheyy!13:31
cr3hi folks, if anyone is using kvm for testing, is there a quick way to recover a reference image other than untar'ing a tarball or virsh snapshot-recover?14:02
balloonsplars, I don't see any work item for you on that blueprint14:08
balloons mean, not in the work items feld14:08
plarsballoons: you're right, I was looking at the "work item" section in the whiteboard and didn't scroll down to the new and improved work items section of the blueprint14:13
gema_roadmr: do you have any nexus devices in the lab that you can use for testing?14:20
roadmrgema_: nope, I don't :/ only a bunch of old laptops haha14:21
roadmrgema_: brendand has a nexus 7 but it's not in a lab14:21
gema_roadmr: if we lent you one , could you run the wifi tests on it?14:21
gema_roadmr: and if so, who would be the contact person to deal with?14:22
brendandgema_, could someone help us getting it set up to auto deploy the images?14:22
roadmrgema_: sure, we can do that, I can be the contact14:22
gema_brendand: nope, this would be a manual activity14:22
gema_roadmr: I need someone that can phisically get the device and run the tests on it14:23
gema_roadmr: as well as flashing it with the ubuntu image and the tablet image14:23
roadmrgema_: I'm in the office/lab every day so I can do that14:23
gema_roadmr: do you live in lexington?14:23
roadmrgema_: no, Montreal, but we also have a lab here with wireless testing stuff14:24
gema_roadmr: oh, ok, I thought your wireless lab was in lex14:24
roadmrgema_: if you prefer Lexington then maybe we can convince spideyman to help14:24
gema_roadmr: I think it'd be easier14:24
roadmrgema_: we have three wireless testing setups, one for each certification lab: Lex, Montreal and Taipei14:24
gema_roadmr: gotcha14:24
gema_roadmr: let me see if we have some hw we could use for this14:25
diwichi, since this is supposed to be some hackfest today, I hope someone is around to help me :-)14:50
diwicPulseAudio upstream has an automated test suite14:50
balloonsdiwic, hello :-)14:50
balloonspitti, jibel do you guys know about the pulseaudio upstream tests suite?14:51
diwicI figured I should have it running as part of the -proposed stuff before it migrates over to the dev release14:51
diwicBut I don't know where to start really14:51
balloonscan you point out where the test suite lives? I'm assuming in there source repo somewhere14:52
diwicthis is an autopkgtest rather than autopilot, right?14:52
diwicballoons, it's run by "make check" IIRC, or possibly "make tests"14:52
balloonsdiwic, yes, autopkg14:52
jibeldiwic, hi, there are some guidelines in http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/auto-pkg-test.html14:53
diwicballoons, ok, so "make check" runs some tests it seems like14:53
jibeldiwic, you'll need to add to your package a debian/tests/control file that describes the test dependencies and test executable and add a test executable in debian/tests/14:55
diwichmm, 1 of the 30 tests failed14:55
jibelin your case it would be a shell script that calls "make check" I guess14:56
diwicjibel, how does the test environment determine if "make check" was successful?14:57
pittidiwic: the most important point of that is to tell it to run against the system-installed pulseaudio instead of against the built source tree14:57
pittidiwic: can it do that?14:57
diwicpitti, I would typically say no, but can you explain why?14:58
pittidiwic: oh, and as a step even before that, I guess it shoudl run during package build, and make the build fail on test failures14:58
pittidiwic: that's the point of autopkgtest, to test the actually installed system instead of a build tree14:59
pittidiwic: this catches packaging errors (missing to install some files, etc.), changes in dependencies, and we can run it if a depending library changes14:59
diwicpitti, so running an upstream test suite shouldn't be an autopkgtest ?15:00
diwicpitti, the test does stuff like mixing stream 1 and 2 and checking that the result is correct15:00
pittidiwic: no, it's desirable to also run as autopkgtest, but it needs to run differently then15:00
pittidiwic: but usually the two have a different focus15:00
pittidiwic: so if we can make the upstream test suite run as autopkgtest we should do so15:01
diwicpitti, the test suite makes ~30 executables I believe. We don't install them.15:01
pittibut in many cases that's not easy to do15:01
pittidiwic: that's fine -- autopkgtest can still build your package to build the actual tests15:01
diwicpitti, now it sounds even more confusing.15:02
pittidiwic: so, step 1 should always be to fix "make check" and run it in debian/rules during package build15:03
pittiso that packages which regress on some architecture or due to a build dep change don't build and get into the archive at all15:04
pittiupstream test suites usually cover the fine details of funcionality15:04
diwicpitti, Ok, so far I follow. Can we make that optional somehow?15:04
pittiif that's covered during package build, then autopkgtest only needs to do some general smoketest to guard against packaging errors15:04
diwicpitti, if the test suite takes a minute to execute or so15:04
pittisuch as calling paplay, ensuring that the daemon started, etc.15:05
pittidoing that is usually much easier than convincing "make check" to run against the system binaries (although this often isn't all that hard)15:05
pittibut if we can run the upstream test suite against the packaged/installed pulse, so much the better of course15:06
diwicpitti, I don't think it makes sense to run this test suite against the installed packages. They are free executables, making no use of libpulse etc.15:07
pittidiwic: ok, so they seem better during package build then15:08
pittidiwic: we might have an autopkgtest which just does a coarse "paplay" call with a dummy backend or so, to test triggerig of the daemon, installation of paplay and pulse, etc.15:09
pittiand a compile/link/run test against libpulse can't hurt either (to cover correct installation of headers, pkg-config, etc.)15:09
diwicpitti, ok15:09
diwicpitti, where will this autopkgtest be run? In some kind of vm?15:10
pittidiwic: yes, we create a server-like VM for each test run15:10
pittitests have full root, can install any pacakge, etc.15:10
diwicpitti, is this what the "run-adt-test" command does?15:11
diwicpitti, but I assume the tests do not have access to real hw resources, such as sound cards?15:12
pittidiwic: right, prepare-testbed builds a VM, run-adt-test runs it in that VM15:14
pittidiwic: I'm not sure; kvm does emulate a simple sound card, so it could use that15:14
diwicpitti, oh, so it uses KVM internally15:15
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xnoxballoons: webcam step removed.16:03
balloonsxnox, you dropped the webcam screen on ubiquity?16:03
xnoxballoons: yes.16:03
balloonsnice.. I'll open a bug for it to get our testcases updated16:04
balloonsstarting with today's daily or tomorrow's?16:04
balloonsWhew, busy day.. anyone else hacking on something?17:02
balloonsmight be quiet in here till the European folks have a chance to get home :-)17:03
phillwballoons: I'm now back and in lurking mode. There may be gaps in replying as it nearly evening meal time here. But I will get back to anyone who pings me.17:08
SergioMenesesballoons, Im working on bug 115475017:15
ubot5bug 1154750 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Test Needed: Ubuntu Software Center" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115475017:15
SergioMenesesphillw, \o\17:15
balloonsSergioMeneses, :-)17:15
SergioMenesesballoons, I have a preview now... give a minute17:16
phillwballoons: / stgraber ubuntu-gnome is lot listing any builds on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds although it does now appear on the 'Filter' list on the Left Hand Side.17:17
phillws/lot/not17:17
SergioMeneseslunch time... I'll be back soon17:18
stgraberphillw: that's because the ISO tracker wasn't asked to publish any daily since I created the product on it17:24
phillwstgraber: okies, so they will appear next cron-build?17:35
stgraberphillw: probably. There's currently a bug on the cdimage build machine preventing them from publishing17:41
phillwokies, thanks for the update :)17:44
sakhello, I am assuming this is the hackfest date,right?18:09
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SergioMenesessak, you're right18:16
SergioMenesesballoons, take a look http://people.ubuntu.com/~sergiomeneses/sandbox/1497_Software%20Center%20Tests18:20
balloonshey sak18:20
balloonsSergioMeneses, I'm looking18:20
balloonsthis looks really nice18:20
SergioMenesesballoons, I need to do: how to buy apps18:21
balloonshehe.. umm.. there are 'free' apps to buy, I'd use those18:21
SergioMenesesthis testcase is huge18:21
balloonsyes it is..18:22
SergioMenesesballoons, what do you mean?18:22
balloonsfor instance, you can purchase command and conquer18:22
balloonsand it costs $018:22
SergioMeneses:O18:22
SergioMenesesjejeje really18:22
balloonsyea18:22
sakhey ballons18:24
SergioMenesesballoons, seems easy, long but easy18:25
balloonssak, got something to hack on? need some help?18:25
sakballons, need help setting up manual test. the process is still a bit confusing18:26
phillwSergioMenesesif the test case is 'huge', you may want to think about splitting it down into smaller 'sub-tests'. I'm not sure if balloons has posted up the pcmanfm suite I sent him yet, but that would give you some sort of idea as to doing so.18:27
balloonssak, sure.. what test are you thinking about writing?18:28
balloonsphillw, yes, your pcmanfm suite :-) Are you going to make a merge proposal for it18:28
balloonstoday is the day my friend!18:28
SergioMenesesphillw, I'm doing that ... even I have a chart18:29
balloonsSergioMeneses, phillw is correct.. We've gone back and forth on how we approach things.. it's a choice to split or not.. for example, unity has many cases split into high level categories18:29
balloonsfor unity having all those cases in one doesn't make sense, but neither does having so many seperated18:30
balloonsBreaking down the software center stuff into say a core testcase and then another testcase might make sense18:30
SergioMenesesI'll take a picture of my chart and share it with you jejeje18:30
balloonsfor instance, testing the software sources, etc, maybe goes in the secondary testcase18:30
sakI want to right a testcase for usd-creator-gtk, since I have high value for this program, ballons18:31
sakplus, i could us a crash course in bzr18:33
balloonssak, awesome. so I take it you have seen the tutorial on the wiki / youtube.. the youtube video goes way beyond the wiki.. it's very visual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO7DdlUSt_4&feature=youtu.be18:34
balloonssak, but of course, you've got me live to help you18:34
SergioMenesesvideos \o/18:34
balloonsso the first thing you need to do is make sure your setup for launchpad18:34
SergioMenesesballoons, is a youtube star :D18:34
balloonsyou have an account right? can you link me to it?18:34
balloonsSergioMeneses, lol.. yep.. 7 videos.. I'm a star!18:35
saki have a launchpad account, you want the link, ballon?18:35
balloonssak, we'll make sure you have an ssh key setup, then we can make sure you have bzr and launchpad on your box18:35
balloonssak, sure18:35
saki have kubuntu raring installed  a bare metal. so in will use ot for the test18:36
balloonsk.. so 'sudo apt-get install bzr' if you haven't18:37
saki setup the ssh key on debian, is that going to cause issues?18:37
balloonssak, no. just make sure it's attached to your launchpad account18:38
balloonshttps://launchpad.net/~/+editsshkeys18:38
sakk18:38
balloonsif you can bzr launchpad-login YOURNAME18:38
balloonsand bzr whoami returns you, your all set :-018:38
balloonsphillw, you should hop in here also mate!18:39
balloonssak, let me know if you hit any snags, or if your set up to now18:42
balloonszak at any rate, that was the hard part.. From there you can simply checkout the tests we have by branching18:47
balloons bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-tests18:48
sakballon, what is YOURNAME? Is this my profile name or my launchpad name?18:48
balloonssak, your launchpad id18:48
sakok18:48
balloonsfor me, it's nskaggs18:48
balloonshttps://launchpad.net/~nskaggs18:49
balloonssak, things work for you?18:51
balloonsonce you've set this up once, you don't have to do it anymore.. so it's all downhill from here18:51
saki did this but, bzr said, "saqman2060" does not seem to contain an email address. this is allowed but not recommended18:52
SergioMenesesballoons, phillw sak look http://people.ubuntu.com/~sergiomeneses/sandbox/tests-softwarecenter.jpg18:52
balloonsSergioMeneses,  think that deserves some sharing18:52
fetzedi want that pen!18:53
SergioMenesesballoons, jejeje18:53
SergioMenesesI'm going to do a post and put it there :D18:53
balloonsawesome!18:53
balloonsI'm happy to reshare.. it's a nice photo.. I like the objects in it18:53
balloonswell done18:53
SergioMeneses:)18:53
balloonssak, weird.. if it works though :-)18:54
balloonssak, so.. now you can move to the fun stuff18:54
balloonsgo ahead and branch the code and you'll get a copy of our tests on your machine18:54
balloonsbzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-tests18:54
balloonsfrom there it's just a matter of making and editing files.. when your all done, it's a couple bzr commands to push it back to launchpad.. once you do one, you'll have it done.18:55
balloons*done=down18:55
balloonsSergioMeneses, btw, you play guitar?18:56
* balloons talks a quick offtopic detour18:56
sakthat is "bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-test" this is the right command?18:56
SergioMenesesballoons, no I don't jeje but I found it in UDS-R18:56
balloonssak, yes it is18:56
balloonssak, this page lists it: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests18:57
balloonsit also gives you the push command you need to push your stuff back to launchpad when your done18:57
balloonssee it?18:57
SergioMenesesin the bar to be more specific18:57
balloonsSergioMeneses, ah-ha.. it's pretty cool18:57
* balloons switches back to on-topic :-)18:58
SergioMenesesjeje yes it is18:58
sakyes I see it18:59
balloonsexcellent.. So your all set up.. So now, it's just about writing the testcase19:00
balloonsso you should see the new ubuntu-manual-tests folder.. did you go browsing around it and see the current tests?19:00
balloonsfor your software center test, it's a 'package', not hardware or an image :-)19:01
balloonsso make a new file in the 'packages' folder and title it something like 'startup disk creator'19:02
saki think i have a problem with my ssh key. i am using irc on my phone, lol. switching to desktop19:02
balloonssak, lol.. ok, I'll wait for you to come back19:03
fetzedhas anyone else been testing Unity Lenses ID:1448? if you try click the search icon on 'home lens' its flashing random icons like calculator and audio for a split second Ill report it as a bug if so. =)19:03
baudtrapbeen following the instructions you guys gave sak . Works great. Think i'll test Gwibber if its available.19:05
balloonsbaudtrap, yep indeed it is19:06
balloonsfetzed, weird... which step are you getting that in?19:06
balloonsbaudtrap, let me know if you need any help :-)19:07
baudtrapcool ;)19:07
sak_ok, balloon, I am back, I hope19:09
fetzedAt the start I clicked on the Search Icon messing about and noticed it, It was not during any steps I was playing about with it after install19:09
fetzedim going to re create to see if its just a dodgey install19:10
balloonsfetzed, <3.. you've got it down my friend19:10
balloonsyep, if you can recreate, file a bug. I don't see it.. when you file, mention your graphics card / driver if it comes up again..19:10
balloonsit might be some weird rendering bug with your combination19:10
balloonssak_, :-) ok so ready to start on the test then?19:11
sak_Almost, ballon, but first I have to check my ssh key. This was the error I got trying to branch the code: "The authenticity of host 'bazaar.launchpad.net (91.189.95.84)' can't be established.19:12
sak_RSA key fingerprint is 9d:38:3a:63:b1:d5:6f:c4:44:67:53:49:2e:ee:fc:89.19:12
sak_Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes19:12
sak_Warning: Permanently added 'bazaar.launchpad.net,91.189.95.84' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.19:12
sak_Permission denied (publickey).19:12
sak_ConnectionReset reading response for 'BzrDir.open_2.1', retrying19:12
sak_Permission denied (publickey).19:13
sak_bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist"19:13
balloonssak_, hmm19:17
balloonssak_, well if your not opposed to it, you could just generate a new key.. For now though, we can work on the testcase if you wish and go back to solving that issue19:18
balloonssak_, when you said you generated the key on the debian box, did you ssh copy the pub and key files over to your ubuntu box?19:19
sak_balloons, It appears that I do not have a private key on my kubuntu system, and the system that I used to create the private key, no longer exists :-)19:19
sak_Balloons, No :-(19:19
balloonssak_, lol.. see my reply above.. :-) Ok, then yea, let's just make you a new one19:19
sak_LOL19:19
sak_in the process of doing that19:20
balloonssak_, ok.. there's thing page if you need it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Launchpad19:20
sak_thanks19:23
fetzedmeh... looks like my bug is a bug :(19:30
sak_Yes, IT WORKED. But I could not branch it in the dir I created because I created it with root. I I just branched it to profile folder19:33
phillwballoons: we've just had evening meal and I have found out today that the catalog stuff I have done has the wrong border settings for the printer :'(19:35
balloonsphillw, :-(19:35
balloonssak_, yay!19:35
balloonsfetzed, :-( That's good though too.. report the result and they can get to fixing it :-)19:36
sak_ok, did not see the startup-disk-test so this I am going to write and push to the branch19:36
phillwit happens, just means altering 10 pages of spreadsheet type entry and their associated images.19:36
balloonshey Letozaf_19:48
Letozaf_balloons, hey19:48
sak_Balloon, I just pushed an testcase to the branch /ubuntu-manaul-test/usb-creator-gtk19:48
balloonssak_, great, let me take a look19:48
balloonssak_, ok, so you see your branch on the page now? https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests19:49
balloonsif you click on it you can browse and propose it for merging19:49
sak_yes i do19:49
balloonshowever, you'll notice your changes are in there19:50
baudtrapWorking on formating my testcase. Whats the proper way to indicate a success or a bug?19:50
balloonssee the last revision?19:50
balloonssak_, so what you need to do is issue a bzr commit before you push19:50
balloonsnow, in order to do that let's review a bit of bzr commands19:50
balloonsyou made a new file that bzr doesn't now about19:50
sak_ok19:50
sak_i did19:51
balloonsyou can check this out by issuing bzr status19:51
balloonswhat does it say?19:51
balloonsbaudtrap, you mean an expected result?19:51
sak_nothing19:51
balloonswhat does 'bzr log | more' show?19:52
balloonsdoes it show a revision 47 you committed?19:52
balloonsbaudtrap, if you haven't seen this pages, they should help; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/ManualStyleGuide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Manual19:53
sak_Balloon, did I do something wrong19:54
baudtrapballons, oh yes. thanks, that helped.19:54
balloonssak_, :-). Not sure what happened.. But here's what you should do in order to get it up on launchpad quickly19:56
balloonsbzr branch ...19:56
balloonsbzr add FILENAME19:56
balloonsbzr commit19:56
balloonsbzr push19:56
balloonssak_, make sense?19:57
sak_In this order, with only these commands? I get the branch command, What filename am I adding?19:58
balloonssak_, you made a new test right?19:58
SergioMeneses balloons maybe this can help http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-guide/index.html19:58
sak_yes, balloon19:59
balloonssak_, great. So in order for bzr to include that in the repository, you have to use the bzr add command19:59
balloonsso issue a bzr add with the path to the new file you made19:59
sak_k19:59
balloonsSergioMeneses, :-) thanks20:00
Letozaf_balloons, you haven't had time to look at the File-roller autopilot test have you ?20:00
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, \o20:00
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, \o20:00
balloonsno, but since your here, I can do whatever.. I'm here for whomever is hacking today :-)20:00
Letozaf_balloons, File-roller or Thunderbird :)20:01
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fetzedooops balloons did I report that bug in the wrong place?20:04
balloonsLetozaf_, you pick :-) What you wanna hack on? I guess tb is kind of out unless I can make something magic right20:04
balloonsfetzed, you used ubuntu-bug right?20:04
fetzedye20:04
Letozaf_balloons, yeah! so lets hack File-roller :)20:05
balloonsfetzed, yea, normally that's how we like to report bugs.. for these call for testing sometimes they ask us to report them in a special way20:05
balloonsthis is one of those times :-)20:05
balloonshttp://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/262/builds/40142/buginstructions20:05
balloonsin general, checking the bug reporting link is a good idea :-)20:05
fetzedahh thats alright then <--- QA noob20:05
balloonsno worries..I actually updated it.. originally I had ubuntu-bug in there.. and changed it after like 10 mins due to the team asking me to do so20:06
balloonsthey want to track things differently20:06
balloonsso we'll pretend you saw it in those 10 mins.. how's that :-p20:07
balloonsLetozaf_, sure thing..20:07
balloonsSergioMeneses, gonna push a merge request for your testcase?20:07
balloonssak_, how's it coming?20:07
fetzed:P20:08
sak_not good. I am using the add command, but I all I get is "workingtree does not exizt".20:08
balloonssak_, ahh.. you need to be inside the folder you checked the code out of20:08
balloonselse your bzr stuff will fail20:08
SergioMenesesballoons, we need to work on the "buy apps" part first, or not?20:08
balloonsSergioMeneses, you can if you wish.. but you can also add it in later and merge it :-)20:09
balloonsWe are allowed to update existing testcases..20:09
balloonsthey are never 'done' :-)20:09
balloonshaving a test that test 5/10 features is better than no test :-)20:10
balloonsbut what you've written is already so nice.. it covers most of it20:10
balloonsLetozaf_, ok, so i'm having a lok20:10
SergioMenesesballoons, perfect then20:10
SergioMenesesso I think we can merge this part... we only have to do a small part of the process20:11
Letozaf_balloons, the problem is I cannot make autopilot click on the 'Add files' button, I also tried using the menu items, but it doesn't work20:11
sak_Still not working balloons, I am in the package folder of ubuntu-manual-test20:11
balloonsLetozaf_, just ran it.. I see that20:12
balloonslet's take a look at the code shall we?  :-)20:12
Letozaf_balloons, yes of course!20:12
balloonssak_, ok, so your in the root folder.. and issuing the commands are failing?20:13
sak_yes20:13
balloonsohh.. right.. so bzr add testname gives working tree error20:14
balloonsweird20:14
sak_what path should I be inputing20:14
balloonsgo up to the ubuntu-manual-test folder20:14
balloonsand type bzr add *20:14
balloonsthat will add everything underneath is20:14
balloonsbaudtrap, how's it coming for you?20:14
balloonsso Letozaf_ i see you have a find in there20:15
balloonsis there another way to find the button - how exactly is it failing?20:15
balloonsI mean, it didn't click it for me :-)20:15
balloonsbut I wonder if it's finding it20:15
Letozaf_balloons, I tried also using the menu item instead of the button20:16
balloonsi'm going to go look in the introspection tree20:16
Letozaf_balloons, but did not work20:16
Letozaf_balloons, yes now I am trying to use label="Add Files" but I think I had already tried and it did not work20:17
balloonsLetozaf_, let's go after the label20:17
balloonslol.. that was my thought.. I'd start with the label20:17
balloonsohh20:18
balloonsI see the 'Add Files' label20:18
balloonsbut I would use the name20:18
balloonsAdd_Toolbar.. that won't change with locale20:18
Letozaf_balloons, doesn't work, same problem (I mean the label)20:18
balloonsyou see it? GtkToolButton, name=Add_Toolbar20:18
Letozaf_balloons, oh! fine let me try20:18
balloonsif not, there's several other ways we can define it probably..20:19
baudtrapballons,  So i reviewed the '1332_Online Account Gwibber' testcase and had two unexpected results. Do i append those in the file or do i make my own file?20:19
balloonsI believe!20:19
SergioMenesesballoons, done20:19
SergioMeneseshttps://code.launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses/ubuntu-manual-tests/ubuntu-software-center/+merge/15419220:19
Letozaf_balloons, :( name does not work either :(20:21
balloonsbaudtrap, if the testcase is out of date update it.. no need for a new file. If it's not and you want to expand it, go for it.. that testcase is specific to the online integration pieces of gwibber.. rather than gwibber itself, though there may be overlap20:21
balloonsLetozaf_, so GtkImage, stock=add-files-to-archive20:22
sak_ok, did a little of hacking and updates the branch. No, is the testcase I pushed supposed to be a folder?20:22
Letozaf_balloons, let me go for that20:22
balloonsLetozaf_, also, GtkLabel, label=Add Files20:22
Letozaf_balloons, I had already tried the label but I will try it again20:22
balloonsLetozaf_, finally, GtkButton, tooltip_text=Add files to the archive20:22
sak_I mean, I get the updated branch and found my testcase. It is a folder. Is this right?20:22
baudtrapballons, yeah, abit of overlap. Perhaps i'll just make one a new including Gwibber as a whole and expand the tests.20:23
SergioMenesesballoons, I think we can add ubuntu  software testcases for the next cadence week20:23
balloonsohh and Letozaf_ GtkToolButton, icon_name=add-files-to-archive. GtkToolButton, stock_id=add-files-to-archive20:23
balloonsbaudtrap, yes, I would make a fresh gwibber testcase.. that case was/is for integration pieces, not for gwibber20:24
balloonssak_, looking20:24
balloonssak_, I don't see anything in your branch yet :-( https://code.launchpad.net/~saqman2060/ubuntu-manual-tests/usb-creator-gtk20:25
balloonsthe testcase you pushed should show up as a file per usual20:25
balloonsohh.. after you did you bzr add *, did you go ahead and commit it?20:25
balloonssak_, ^^20:26
sak_No I did not20:26
balloonsSergioMeneses, yes.. I want whatever is written during the fest to be highlighted next week20:26
SergioMenesessure20:26
balloonsSergioMeneses, there's some misspellings in your case.. can you spellcheck it?20:27
SergioMenesesI think it will be ready this week20:27
SergioMeneses:O20:27
SergioMenesessure...20:27
balloonsaplications= applications for instance :-)20:27
balloonsthanks!20:27
balloonsI'm a horrible speller.. I <3 spell check20:27
SergioMenesesjejeje20:27
balloonssak_, k.. your close :-) go ahead an commit, then do a bzr push again20:28
SergioMenesesme too20:28
balloonsit should show up :-)20:28
Letozaf_balloons, the GtkImage, stock=add-files-to-archive does not work but I get a different error20:28
balloonsLetozaf_, ohh fun.. I posted the final 3 ways I saw to get at it20:28
balloonstry them all, then we can dive in deeper20:28
balloonskinda crazy it has so many objects for that button eh!20:28
sak_balloons, I am committing lp:~saqman2060/ubuntu-manual-tests/usb-creator-gtk ?20:29
Letozaf_balloons, yes I will try them now20:29
Letozaf_balloons, anyway the GtkImage, stock=add-files-to-archive gave me this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/562926620:30
balloonsska_,yep20:30
balloonsLetozaf_, ahh! that means it didn't find it20:30
balloonsthat's the error I would have expected to start with..20:30
Letozaf_balloons, good to know20:31
balloonsso what that means is these others ways are all working.. in so much as it's finding something20:31
balloonsthe weird part is, this line should fail        self.assertThat(btn, NotEquals(None))20:31
Letozaf_balloons, yes that's right20:31
balloonsyou have a check in there to make sure your btn variable gets assigned20:31
balloonsbefore trying to move and click it.. it should fail right there, so that's weird20:32
Letozaf_balloons, yes it's weired20:32
balloonsLetozaf_,  try not reusing the 'btn' variable20:33
balloonsname them.. createButton, addFilesButton, etc20:33
Letozaf_balloons, ok20:33
balloonsthen those checks should work I thnk20:33
Letozaf_balloons, let me try20:34
balloonsthe issue is btn was defined last time.. make sense20:34
balloonsso the assert passes because you got the 'new' button.. and your re-assignment failed, so it still exists..20:34
balloonsso you need to blank it or use a different name20:34
balloonsI like descriptive names.. not actually a fan of 'btn'20:34
Letozaf_balloons, yea I also like descriptive names20:35
sak_balloons, what folder i'm i supposed to be in?20:35
sak_And why do a have a duplicate of the original branch in my usb-creator-gtk folder?20:38
balloonssak_, bzr commands for your local repository should work in any subfolder under the main one20:39
balloonsso for instance, if I branch lp:ubuntu-manual-tests20:39
balloonsI get a folder called ubuntu-manual-tests20:39
balloonsonce I cd into that folder, I can use bzr commands to affect it20:40
balloonsI can also cd into any folder beneath it and everything will work20:40
balloonssak_, if you have a duplicate of the original branch, you probably checked out the branch twice20:40
balloonssak_, before you continue, why don't you make a copy of the testcase and save it somewhere outside the folder20:41
balloonsthen you can take your newfound knowledge and start from the top20:41
balloonssak_, even put it up on paste.ubuntu.com if you wish to make sure it sticks around :-)20:42
balloonssak_, sorry your having trouble.. if launchpad causes too much headache, you can always write the case up and then just send an email to myself or the list and we can add it that way..20:47
sak_balloon, you are right. Again, this was the whole idea. Learning to use bazaar lol20:47
balloonssak_, good.. glad you have that attitude ;-)20:47
balloonsI'll be back in 10.. I'll answer pings then :-)20:48
sak_Balloon, how long is this hackfest?20:48
Letozaf_balloons, so, using descriptive names for the button variable and using GtkToolButton with name: "Add_Toolbar" gives this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/562931920:48
fetzedi think its 3 more hours20:49
sak_ok, Can I remove my manual test case and just start over?20:50
fetzedIve not used bzr here yet, I'd wait for balloons just in case =)20:51
sak_just did. Great learning experience. Going to take a break and will continue20:51
Letozaf_balloons, it's quite weired because self.assertThat(addFilesButton,NotEquals(None)) works I mean I do not get any error but then I get the error message I pasted before20:53
Letozaf_balloons, same happens with GtkButton name="Add files to archive"20:54
SergioMenesesballoons, I think is done https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses/ubuntu-manual-tests/ubuntu-software-center-v220:56
* Letozaf_ is thinking that balloons is multitasking answering to everyone :P20:59
fetzed:P21:01
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, jejeje because he is the boss21:04
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, right! he's the boss lol21:05
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, he's got super powers :D21:05
Letozaf_balloons, same with GtkToolButton name=Add_Toolbar :(21:13
balloonsok.. sorry for the delay :-)21:15
balloonssak_, hackfest goes till 2300 utc21:16
balloonsso 3 more hours :-)21:16
fetzedwhat you want us to do now boss :)21:16
balloonsLetozaf_, that error looks like it just didn't click the button21:16
balloonsnot that the button didn't exist21:16
balloonsSergioMeneses, I'll review and approve21:17
Letozaf_balloons, yes right but I cannot understand why21:17
balloonssak_, yes save off your testcase and star over21:17
SergioMenesesballoons, perfect then21:17
balloonsdelete the folder, rebranch21:17
Letozaf_balloons, looks like I did the same exact things I did for the create button21:17
balloonsthen go through the steps to create the test again, add it, then commit, and finally push it up21:17
balloonsLetozaf_, yes I agree.. it should work21:17
sak_ok, balloons21:18
Letozaf_balloons, thomi ? :P21:18
balloonsLetozaf_, so you say using the menus didn't work etheir?21:18
sak_still on break, boss :-)21:18
Letozaf_balloons, no, I can try again, but when I saw that clicking the button did not work I tried with the menu but did not succeed21:18
balloonslol.. u guys and your 'boss' stuff! I don't have super powers.. but apt has super cow powers21:19
balloonsapt-get help, apt-get moo :-)21:20
Letozaf_balloons, never tried sudo apt-get balloons  lol21:20
fetzedlol21:20
balloonslol.. I should be a package!21:20
Letozaf_balloons, no you could get a dev to put some output for apt-get balloons :D21:21
Letozaf_balloons, instead of a cow it could be balloons :D21:22
fetzedReading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package balloons //insert sad face :(21:22
balloonsLetozaf_, ok, so can you push up your changes?21:22
balloonsso I can hack too :-)21:22
Letozaf_ok21:22
balloonsbtw, I was going to tell you. we should try a qt app21:22
Letozaf_balloons, done, pushed!21:24
Letozaf_balloons, a qt app ? which one ?21:24
balloonsk, merging SergioMeneses's test then I'll pull t21:24
balloonsLetozaf_, umm you could look at the core apps.. I also had another app in mind written by dplanella21:25
balloonsor anything that is qt based you like21:25
zygaballoons, cprofitt: is there any update on ubuntu friendly?21:25
balloonsjust to get the experience21:25
Letozaf_balloons, ok fine core apps sound fun21:25
Letozaf_balloons, witch app ?21:26
balloonsLetozaf_, they're not quite ready for primetime, as you now, so it would be mostly for fun.. probably can't really write a test for them yet21:26
balloonsumm21:26
balloonsI would do the calculator or calendar21:26
Letozaf_balloons, ok21:26
balloonstry the launch and vis tools out21:26
balloonssee what it looks like21:26
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balloonsSergioMeneses, ohh, btw.. you can leave the number off your testcases.. it gets assigned when I push it to the tracker21:28
SergioMeneseswhich number? 1497?21:29
balloonsyea..21:29
balloonsthe actual number ends up being 1506.. I just pushed it :-).. you can just add the new file as 'Software Center Tests'21:29
SergioMenesesyes, I am doing it21:31
balloonsno no21:31
balloonsit's done mate.. lol.. just for future reference21:32
balloonsthe merge is done21:32
balloonsI fixed it :-)21:32
SergioMenesesballoons, aaa ok then21:32
SergioMenesesjeje21:32
SergioMenesesthanks btw21:32
balloonsi always assign the number, so it's not an issue21:32
balloonsjust wanted you to know you didn't have to put one in there :-)21:32
SergioMenesesok21:33
balloonsLetozaf_, ok, running this again.21:34
Letozaf_balloons, http://paste.ubuntu.com/562946921:35
Letozaf_balloons, for the calculator-app21:35
balloonsLetozaf_, it worked for me21:35
balloonsas is21:35
balloonslol21:35
balloonsit clicks the button fine21:35
Letozaf_balloons, :O21:35
Letozaf_balloons, what ???21:35
balloonsLetozaf_, lolololol21:35
Letozaf_balloons, let me try21:35
balloonsthe version you pushed works for me -- are you in english mode ?21:35
Letozaf_maybe I will close terminal and re-open it21:36
Letozaf_balloons, let me check21:36
fetzeddid you want me to have a crack at anything balloons?21:37
balloonsfetzed, of course :-) What are you feeling up to?21:37
balloonshow about writing a manual test?21:38
Letozaf_balloons, I-m in english mode and I closed and re-opened terminal but it still does not work for me, let me reboot and try again21:38
fetzeddont mind something easy for now im a virgin :P21:38
balloonsLetozaf_, SO weird!21:38
balloonswell, it works for me, so good work!21:38
balloonshaha21:38
Letozaf_balloons, ha! nice to know it works :D21:38
Letozaf_balloons, pitty I cannot see it :P21:38
fetzedim up for that balloons21:40
balloonsfetzed, ok, let's look at the open bugs21:40
Letozaf_balloons, ahhh!! File-roller hates me !!! Well suppose I have to find out why it does not work on my laptop21:40
balloonshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests21:40
balloonshmmm21:41
fetzedabiworld?21:43
balloonsdo you have an application you like... I'm looking to see what tests might be missing for a default application21:43
fetzedabiword*21:43
fetzedshould be easy just looking for standard stuff like open a file save a file etc?21:44
balloonsyes, abiword is a good one.. you can look at the libreoffice testcases for inspiration, they are quite big  tho :-)21:44
balloonsbut yes, standard stuff21:44
balloonsbuild a nice testcase base of the essential features of the application21:45
balloonsso when you open abiword, what basic tasks can you perform?21:45
fetzedyeah alright ;) ill have a blast i need to grab a iso of xubuntu21:45
balloons:-)21:45
balloonsI also remembered our totem tests need work21:46
balloonsI wonder if that's a bug or not21:47
Letozaf_balloons, I will find out what's wrong with File-roller and my laptop another time... for the core apps21:47
* balloons adds21:47
Letozaf_balloons, I get an error21:47
balloonsLetozaf_, ok :-) but glad it works.. because, well, it should :-021:47
Letozaf_balloons, yeah21:47
balloonsfetzed, this is an easy bug to fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/112733121:48
Letozaf_balloons, wonder what my laptop has, but doesn't matter I will find out, anyway yes great! it works !!!21:48
ubot5Launchpad bug 1127331 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Nautilus testcase needs clarified" [Undecided,New]21:48
Letozaf_balloons, at least I know I'm doing it right :D21:48
balloons:-)21:48
Letozaf_balloons, for the core apps the calculator app gives me an error when launching autopilot launch -i Qt ubuntu-calculator-app21:49
Letozaf_balloons, I will paste it21:49
Letozaf_balloons, http://paste.ubuntu.com/562953421:50
balloonsLetozaf_, hmm21:53
balloonsohh21:53
balloonsthis is a thomi question.. qt5 support might not be landed yet21:54
balloonsin fact, given the error, I'd guess it's not ;-)21:54
balloonssorry Letozaf_ !21:54
Letozaf_balloons, pitty I was itching to try :P21:54
baudtrapok, just finished my Gwibber Social Client testcase. Time to commit.21:54
balloonsbaudtrap, yay!21:54
balloonsLetozaf_, yes me too21:54
balloonslet's think.. another qt ap..21:55
balloonslet me find the name of the other app I wanted to try21:55
balloonshttps://code.launchpad.net/qreator21:55
balloonsso21:55
balloonsapt-get install qreator21:55
Letozaf_balloons, done21:56
balloonsweird.. i can't find it on raring21:56
balloonsi'll use the ppa21:56
Letozaf_balloons, you're right! I got an error and didn't see it :(21:57
balloonshttps://launchpad.net/~qreator-hackers/+archive/qreator-stable/+files/qreator_12.05.6_all.deb21:57
balloonshmm.. let's see what happens  :-)21:58
balloonsaww...21:58
balloonsit's not qt.. woops21:58
Letozaf_balloons, I got an error installing anyway21:59
balloonsahh no worries then..21:59
Letozaf_balloons, ok21:59
balloonsman.. what qt apps do I use21:59
balloonsohh..22:01
Letozaf_balloons, I find it difficult to find differences between Qt and Gtk apps22:01
balloonsubuntu one is in qt22:02
SergioMenesesballoons, are you working on ubuntu-phone?22:02
Letozaf_balloons, but how do you find out if an app is Qt ?22:02
balloonsLetozaf_, in general it's not noticable anymore ;-)22:02
Letozaf_balloons, ah! fine!22:02
Letozaf_balloons, :P22:03
balloonssince they take on the same appearance22:03
balloonsthere's subtle hints sometimes22:03
balloonsmany things on the desktop are in gtk toolkit.. because it's based on gnome, which uses gtk exclusively -- indeed the toolkit was made for it22:03
balloonskde was formed out the the qt toolkit, and so the opposite exists there22:03
balloonsvirtualbox for instance, is written in qt I thin tho22:04
balloonsanyways.. I thought it would be cool to have a qt app so you could see the difference.. but you've seen how unity looks right?22:05
balloonscomparatively to the stuff we go after :-)22:05
Letozaf_balloons, yes22:06
Letozaf_balloons, it's late now, gotta go :D22:07
Letozaf_balloons, had fun22:07
balloonsLetozaf_, good night :-) I'm glad22:08
Letozaf_balloons, good night22:08
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balloonsbaudtrap, how's it coming?22:16
baudtrapJust pushed, now i'm headed to launchpad to submit the merge proposal i think...22:17
baudtrapballons, ok done. Its about 1.30am here so i may not have done the best i could. I need coffee.22:29
sak_balloons, I have submitted a merge-request22:36
phillwballoons: btw, did you get the pcmanfm test cases installed?22:36
balloonssak_, excellent22:38
balloonsphillw, i want you to submit a merge for it.22:39
balloonsbut if you don't, I will do so myself22:39
balloonsbaudtrap, I'll have a look22:39
phillwballoons: when I have chance to follow the lessons, I will. Life is a bit hectic atm :)22:39
sak_This should be an empty folder I hope since it is a new branch22:39
balloonsphillw, kk.. I'll submit putting your name in the commit22:39
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balloonssak_, sadly.. nothing new in your branch yet: https://code.launchpad.net/~saqman2060/ubuntu-manual-tests/usb-creator-gtk22:40
balloonsbaudtrap, I'll run through this now.. but off the top, it looks good!22:41
baudtrapballoons, cool. Though its not yet as conclusive as i would like. I will probably expand on it further.22:42
balloonsthat's allowed.. I like to iterate on things.. it's a good approach22:42
baudtrapiteration is the word. Wish clients new that.22:43
balloonshmm.. my users tab doesn't seem to show my followers22:45
balloonsbaudtrap, so it looks like there's a few testcases in there22:46
balloonsprobably outta break those up22:46
balloonswe do that by putting in a line without html, like Test-case name: gwibber/gwb-001, etc22:47
balloonsThen maybe a 1-line descripton22:47
balloonsTest facebook integration22:47
balloonsmake sense?22:47
balloonsthe test looks fine.. I would make those small tweaks, and it should go in22:47
baudtrapballoons, aha! Yeah, i was wondering how i would do that. I'll make those changes right away.22:48
balloonssak_, any luck.. I'm not sure what your doing, but we could do a hangout so you could show me22:49
balloonswould that help?22:49
balloonsbaudtrap, yea, it ends up looking like this: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/262/builds/40142/testcases/1394/results22:50
balloonsjust a random example :-)22:50
sak_yes it would, balloon, because, I am going around in circles22:50
baudtrapcool22:50
balloonssak_, k, one sec22:52
balloonssak_, sorry, meant to say something before.!22:53
balloonsthought you had it22:53
balloonssak_, hop in and say hi :-)22:54
balloonswhenever your ready22:54
baudtrapballoons, just pushed the changes you suggested. Hope i did it right.23:12
balloonsbaudtrap, looking now23:14
balloonsthanks23:15
baudtrapcool23:17
balloonsexcellent, that's it23:18
balloonsI'll add and merge23:18
balloonsthanks baudtrap !23:18
balloonsas SergioMeneses mentioned, we'll use this new test next week during cadence testing :-023:18
baudtrapballoons, cool. I'll try and contribute more later today.23:19
balloonsbaudtrap, :-) thanks for helping out!23:20
baudtrapballoons, you're welcome. Ubuntu FTW. ;~)23:20
balloonssak_, if you need anymore help just ping..23:32
balloonshangouts are free :-)23:32
sak_I will do so, Thanks Balloons23:33
fetzedBalloons Ive had an attempt at the Testcase for abiword23:42
balloonsfetzed, excellent23:42
fetzeddid you want me to email it to you so you can have a look before anyone sees it? :P23:43
balloonsfetzed, where you able to use launchpad?23:44
balloonsif so, push it to a personal branch :-)23:44
balloonsand I'll have a look23:45
fetzedIve got a login etc ive not used it as yet23:45
balloonsfetzed, well, if you'd like we can have a hangout and I can help set you up23:45
balloonsor you can look at the wiki :-p23:45
balloonsbut I can also just have a look at it if you post it to an email or on paste.ubuntu.com if you wish23:49
fetzedYe ill check wiki and give you some peace! when does this need to be in by?23:49
balloonsfetzed, up to you.. I'm here for you today :-)23:49
fetzedhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5629809/23:50
balloonsSo if your ok with a hangout, let's do it.. it's easier for me to help you out23:50
fetzedsorry if its too basic (1st one lol)23:50
SergioMenesesballoons, if fetzed is going to work on that bug, assigned him to the bug and put it as "in progress"23:51
balloonsSergioMeneses, ty.. almost forgot!23:51
SergioMenesesballoons, no worries23:51
fetzsry got booted23:51
balloonsfetz, as SergioMeneses mentioned.. feel free to assign yourself to the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/115547323:52
SergioMenesesand is easier for us23:52
ubot5Launchpad bug 1155473 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Test Needed: Abiword" [Undecided,New]23:52
balloonsso others know your working on it :-)23:52
fetzalright23:52
SergioMenesesthanks for your help fetz23:53
fetznps :)23:53
SergioMenesesbtw balloons is there a list of bugs fixed today?23:53
balloonsfetz, i'm hanging here if you'd like: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/e0a4cdf52c661e7711bfe6ef633072b1283d23dd?authuser=0&hl=en#23:54
balloonsno worries if not23:55
balloonslet me get you the wiki/youtube links if you don't have them23:55
balloonsSergioMeneses, need to compile all that good stuff23:55
balloonsprobably tomorrow after we're done23:55
SergioMenesesballoons, perfect then!23:55
balloonsfetz, for launchpad: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Launchpad23:56
balloonsfor writing a test: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Manual23:56
balloonsand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO7DdlUSt_423:57
SergioMeneseswe have two new members, right?23:57
fetzcool all assigned up :) sorry if Ive been slacky tonight 1st time doing this and not just testing stuff, Cheers for the Links :)23:57
balloonsfetz, your doing great :-)23:57
SergioMenesesfetz, dont worry! ;) you're doing it awesome!23:57
balloonsdiving in with enthusiasm.. we love that stuff!23:58
fetzgotta be done ;)23:58
balloonsSergioMeneses, 3 new contributors I think23:58

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