[00:02] <ogra_> thesummer, the platform api is still not 100% there yet
[00:02] <ogra_> but you will have a very abstract layer to access sensors and the rest of the HW
[00:03] <thesummer> i see
[00:03] <thesummer> i gues taking look won't hurt
[00:03] <thesummer> *guess
[00:03] <thesummer> thx
[00:04] <ogra_> yeah
[00:04] <ogra_> there is already a bunch of stuff but its far from complete
[00:06] <cjaredrun> so lets say i didnt write down my nexus 4 build number... and need to restore?
[00:06] <ogra_> isnt it on the box ?
[00:07] <cjaredrun> ah found a list with the latest
[01:13] <rufusmi> hello!
[01:14] <rufusmi> does anyone know how ubuntu touch performs on a verizon gnex?
[02:05] <iwan_07> hai
[02:05] <iwan_07> someone online please??
[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[08:05] <mbaumi> hello :)
[08:06] <mbaumi> any dev here who can fluently code in qml?
[08:06] <mbaumi> and html5
[09:14] <janimo> dholbach, morning, did last weeks SDK/QML sessions have text written up along with the videos?
[09:15] <IReboot> janimo: There are the IRC logs on line but other than that I do not think so.
[09:15] <dholbach> janimo, there was ... yes, what IReboot said
[09:16] <janimo> IReboot, irclogs are good if they cover the session :)
[09:16] <janimo> for past Ubuntu dev weeks I found it easy to catch up by just reading the IRC discussion in a few minutes, with video it is a bit more time consuming
[09:16] <IReboot> Wow a right answer and I have not even had a coffee yet :)
[09:17] <dholbach> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/03/14/%23ubuntu-app-devel.html and http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/03/15/%23ubuntu-app-devel.html
[09:18] <janimo> dholbach, thanks ! :)
[13:37] <mhall119> popey: did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/ubuntu-calculator-app/tear-off-formula ?
[13:38] <popey> yeah, but can't see how to "tear off"
[13:40] <mhall119> drag it up, about half-way
[13:40] <popey> tried that..
[13:40] <popey> hmm
[13:41] <popey> oh, got it
[13:41] <mhall119> popey: do you have a calculation in the last formula row?
[13:41] <popey> bit finneky on a laptop with touchpoint
[13:41] <popey> nice!
[13:42] <mhall119> popey: yeah, for some reason you have to give the formula view focus first, then click and drag, I'm not sure why that is
[13:42] <mhall119> popey: but scrolling the other direction doesn't move the numpad anymore, which isn't what the design called for
[13:43] <mhall119> so it's not a finished solution
[13:43] <mhall119> but it's the start of one
[13:43] <mhall119> I'm hoping Dalius and crew can run with it from here
[13:43] <popey> much appreciated, thanks
[13:45] <popey> mhall119: am on a call at the moment, but need to have a chat about bug 1155277
[13:57] <tvoss> seb128, ping
[13:57] <seb128> tvoss, hey
[13:57] <tvoss> seb128, hey :) you had a session on settings during vUDS, right? can you point me to the blueprint?
[13:58] <seb128> tvoss, no, we didn't have one
[13:59] <tvoss> seb128, ah, I thought that was scheduled? But wasn't there a blueprint on that topic?
[13:59] <seb128> tvoss, I can't find one on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-1303
[13:59] <seb128> it doesn't ring a bell
[13:59] <tvoss> seb128, ack
[14:00] <seb128> I think we said that's a topic we need to discuss at some point
[14:00] <seb128> but we were not really ready for it
[14:00] <seb128> lool, ^ do you know?
[14:03] <lool> sorry which topic
[14:03] <lool> ah settings
[14:04] <lool> seb128, tvoss: No, this wasn't discussed as a standalone topic; I remember it came up indirectly via chewie / network state
[14:05] <lool> seb128, tvoss: it would be nice to get this started though; I guess the settings framework would be one, then system settings implementation backend and finally system settings app
[14:05] <seb128> right
[14:05] <lool> this was also brought up as part of app containment, APIs and as part of the systemd discussions
[14:05] <seb128> I'm waiting for a summary of what happened last week in London
[14:05] <seb128> the indicator guys were there and they had quite some discussions
[14:09] <tvoss> seb128, lool how do we take it from here, then?
[14:12] <tvoss> seb128, lool is the usual approach to open up a blueprint for that?
[14:13] <seb128> tvoss, yes, we should probably have a blueprint and organize an hangout to get started
[14:13] <seb128> we need to figure out who are the right people to get there though
[14:14] <tvoss> seb128, I would think you have better insight into identifying the right people, but I'm happy to create a blueprint and a meeting at least
[14:15] <seb128> tvoss, ok, please register the blueprint, I will build the list of people and set the meeting up at a time that works for everyone
[14:15] <tvoss> seb128, cool, thanks
[14:16] <seb128> yw
[14:16] <tvoss> seb128, do I need to register the blueprint against Ubuntu or against a specific project?
[14:16] <awe_> tvoss, seb128, invite me please...  just sent lengthy email to aruiz and lars re: indicators & settings wrt to networking/telephony
[14:17] <lool> tvoss: Yup; we can start with a blueprint or start with a hangout
[14:17] <seb128> awe_, thanks, can you bounce me the email (I'm just trying to see what's happening there)
[14:17] <lool> if we want to invite community to participate, we should give enough notice for people to be able to attend
[14:17] <lool> I'm happy to run a hangout on air even on short notice so that at least we have a video in case folks want to catch up on the discussions
[14:18] <awe_> seb128, sure
[14:18] <awe_> done
[14:19] <seb128> awe_, thanks
[14:19] <seb128> lool, +1 for open/on air hangout
[14:21] <tvoss> seb128, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-settings-infrastructure
[14:22] <seb128> tvoss, thanks
[14:22] <MBaumi> whatsapp! :-)
[14:23] <tvoss> seb128, yw
[14:25] <MBaumi> Deutsch hier? Lest mal diesen Artikel: http://www.ubuntuhandys.de/uhr-wetter-rechner-kalender-fertig-ubuntu-phone-coreapps/
[14:25] <MBaumi> *Deutsche
[14:31] <k1l> MBaumi: deine seite?
[14:32] <MBaumi> nee, ich schreibe nur ^^
[14:33] <k1l> MBaumi: jedenfalls haben wir auch deutsche ubuntu channel #ubuntu-de und #ubuntu-de-offtopic . wobei die seite auch gut in den planten von ubuntuusers.de passen würde
[14:34] <MBaumi> planten?
[14:36] <MBaumi> will someone port ubutu touch to SGS4? Any plans?
[14:37] <k1l> *planeten
[14:37] <k1l> is the sgs4 released so far?
[14:38] <MBaumi> no, but coming later, I think in april
[14:38] <k1l> im pretty sure someone will port ubuntu onto it
[14:39] <vilde> Hi, probably this qestion has been here several times. Is there a version for nexus 7 3g (tilapia) comming?
[14:39] <MBaumi> btw, is there a ubuntu touch image working on an raspberry pi? :D
[14:40] <k1l> MBaumi: no ubuntu on the raspberrry pi due to old arm cpu
[14:40] <MBaumi> k1l wir wollen eher eine größere Menge abdecken als zu fachsimpeln... if you know what i mean :)
[14:40] <mpt> tvoss, I'm doing design for system settings, and the Systems team (ted, larsu, charles, et al) are implementing
[14:41] <vilde> I did a lot today, installed Ubuntu and after some struggle I found out that the my Nexus 7 3G version is not supported, but on the other hand I got to try Ubuntu ;)
[14:41] <k1l> MBaumi: in the german planet there is no blog that talks about the mobile ubuntu scene right now.
[14:41] <MBaumi> I know, we want to build one up.. like I told you before, www.ubuntuhandys.de ! Forum is coming soon :-)
[14:42] <MBaumi> Oh, the planet is linking to other sites?
[14:42] <ogra_> vilde, the grouper images should work ... 3G data isnt supported anyway yet and the rest of the HW is identical
[14:42] <MBaumi> then it is a nice idea!! Thank you :-)
[14:42] <ogra_> you might need to manually install
[14:44] <vilde> ok, I don't use the 3G anyway, grouper images... I shall try to find that
[14:52] <tvoss> mpt, ?
[14:53] <mpt> tvoss, !
 seb128, lool how do we take it from here, then?
[14:54] <lool> mpt: seb128 is setting up a meeting
[14:54] <mpt> yes
[14:58] <seb128> lool, tvoss: meeting set up, next monday 17utc (that seems to work for everyone who should be there)
[15:02] <tvoss> seb128, great, thank you
[15:02] <tvoss> mpt, sorry, ENOCONTEXT :) got it now :)
[15:03] <seb128> tvoss, yw
[15:04] <tvoss> mpt, added you to the meeting invite
[15:09] <mpt> Hm, the Facebook app is inviting me to get Facebook for iPhone
[15:10] <rsalveti> yup, the browser id is still from iphone I guess
[15:11] <MBaumi> anyone here with ubuntu touch on TF101?
[15:59] <dholbach> rsalveti, olá! como vai?
[16:00] <dholbach> rsalveti, do you have an example for "legal description behind the binary blobs (mostly from the original Android image)"?
[16:00] <rsalveti> dholbach: hey :-)
[16:00] <dholbach> if you do, that'd make it easier to write something up and ping the image maintainers
[16:01]  * ogra_ wonders what "mostly" means here :)
[16:01] <ogra_> do you make some binary blobs up yourself ? :)
[16:02] <rsalveti> https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers
[16:02] <dholbach> ogra_, sure - /dev/urandom is my preferred source
[16:02] <ogra_> heh
[16:02] <rsalveti> this is from the original nexus images
[16:02] <dholbach> rsalveti, hum... there's no legal bits there?
[16:02] <rsalveti> after you download the blobs, there's an extract script, which will show you the license
[16:03] <dholbach> aha
[16:03] <dholbach> thanks a bunch rsalveti
[16:03] <dholbach> I'll reach out to everyone
[16:03] <dholbach> meant to ping them all a while ago already
[16:04] <dholbach> obrigado
[16:04] <rsalveti> but this might not be the same for the community based ports, it'd actually be good to try to find the license covering the original image for the specific vendor/device
[16:04] <dholbach> yep
[16:04] <rsalveti> to see if there is anything specific to the blobs (mostly drivers) that are part of the image
[16:05] <dholbach> sure
[16:05] <dholbach> rsalveti, saw the ubuntu development guide in pt_br? :-D
[16:05] <rsalveti> all we want to check is if we're able to distribute them
[16:05] <dholbach> yep, makes sense
[16:05] <rsalveti> dholbach: not yet, but saw you posted about it, quite nice
[16:05] <dholbach> yeah, I thought so too :)
[16:06] <dholbach> anyway, I'll get to work on it
[16:19] <dholbach> sergiusens, rsalveti, I updated our wiki template (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/PortTemplate) to give them space to elaborate on which blogs are in there and which license they're under and ping them to fill it out - I'll get back to you once we have some more answers and mail the list about it as well
[16:22] <hopkinskong> ogra_ popey help, i still can't get it working on my device
[16:22] <hopkinskong> You know that i have a special device, and i need to create an root fs.
[16:23] <hopkinskong> But i have no idea what should i do by using two zips (1: built CM10.1, 2:Image from the site)
[16:23] <hopkinskong> I tried copy the "system" folder to "/", and extracted contents of "filesystem.dir" to "/"
[16:24] <ogra_> flash them in succession
[16:24] <hopkinskong> I don't have the term of "flash"
[16:24] <ogra_> boot into recovery ...
[16:24] <hopkinskong> I don't have recovery.
[16:24] <hopkinskong> OK, i want to clarify something.
[16:25] <hopkinskong> First of all, do i really need an existing Android to make Ubuntu Touch work?
[16:25] <hopkinskong> Or Ubuntu Touch Image+CM10.1 Image jut built WOULD WORK?
[16:25] <ogra_> you need to somehow flash the files ...
[16:26] <hopkinskong> just tell me first, do i need an exists android besides from the CM10.1 i built
[16:27] <ogra_> you need to somehow install that CM10.1 ... for that you usually need android's recovery
[16:27] <hopkinskong> So i need a "base" android, then install "CM10.1" then for the "rootfs"?
[16:29] <hopkinskong> [BASE ANDROID]+[CUSTOM BUILT CM10.1]+[ROOTFS IMAGE] = UBUNTU TOUCH or [CUSTOM BUILT CM10.1]+[ROOTFS IMAGE] = UBUNTU TOUCH
[16:29] <hopkinskong> which one is correct?
[16:30] <pentester> how do you upgrade the ubuntu software on the phone
[16:30] <pentester> I keep redoing the process on the wiki, but receive an error of not enough space on /data
[16:31] <hopkinskong> I need to explain how my device boot. I am on some kind of "custom bootloader", and when i launch, it loads the kernel and initrd DIRECTLY.
[16:32] <hopkinskong> Then it will read /init in my rootfs (/sdcard/ubuntu-touch/rootfs.ext2)
[16:32] <hopkinskong> and start the system.
[16:39] <thebit> Hi
[16:40] <thebit> anyone knows if inside the ubuntu touch i can run GTK applications ?
[16:46] <thebit> anyone knows if inside the ubuntu touch i can run GTK applications ?
[16:48] <seb128> thebit, you probably can't atm
[16:48] <ogra_> thebit, you can, via ssh -X or so ... they wont be able to display on the device
[16:48] <seb128> we will need a Mir backend once the touch image runs on Mir
[16:48] <seb128> backend for GTK
[16:48] <ogra_> (and beyond that,. what seb128 said)
[16:51] <thebit> so, the Glib isn't supported in ubuntu touch ?
[16:51] <thebit> someone know which X manager it runs?, lightdm or a minimal version?
[16:55] <ogra_> thebit, a script thats called ubuntu-session
[16:55] <ogra_> thebit, and it doesnt us X at all
[17:01] <thebit> But it uses the framebuffer like linux does no?
[17:02] <ogra_> it uses androids SurfaceFlinger at the moments
[17:02] <ogra_> -s
[17:02] <ogra_> and very soon Mir
[17:02] <ogra_> (within the next weeks it will switch)
[17:04] <thebit> umm, thanks, its factible, or doable, to run a previous app in Gtk in ubuntu touch?
[17:06] <ogra_> thebit, as i said only remotely via something like ssh -X (which woudl display it on your desktop) ... there isnt any SurfaceFlinger support for Gtk and there isnt any Mir support for Gtk
[17:08]  * ogra_ ponders if we want a powerpc build of ubuntu touch :)
[17:16] <thebit> the gtk will be abandoned at some point in the future for the ubuntu ?
[17:17] <ogra_> for touch it hasnt existed
[17:17] <ogra_> on the desktop it will persist
[17:17] <ogra_> in one way ot another
[17:17] <ogra_> *or
[17:18] <ogra_> ubuntu touch is designed for HTML5 and QML from the beginning
[17:18] <ogra_> so i doubt you will see any gtk apps there
[17:19] <ogra_> (unless you make Gtk work with Mir or SurfaceFlinger :) )
[17:19] <ogra_> we wont refuxe patches (hint ... )
[17:19] <ogra_> *refuse
[17:19] <seb128> thebit, we will make GTK apps work on Ubuntu Touch
[17:19] <thebit> ok, soon or later it will have, for example for cordova maybe
[17:19] <seb128> it requires to use Mir though
[17:20] <seb128> and to write a Mir backend for GTK
[17:20] <seb128> which is planned
[17:20] <seb128> once those happen, most GTK apps should run fine
[17:20] <seb128> (some do X specific calls and will need to be fixed but that's not the majority)
[17:21] <thebit> mm the Ubuntu Touch could bring with the Mir the support for Gtk apps, it sounds great!!
[17:22] <thebit> do you have a GIT place where we can contribute ?
[17:23] <ogra_> for the Mir support ?
[17:23] <ogra_> i think there is a bzr branch
[17:24] <ogra_> for ubuntu touch apps themselves its all QML only atm
[17:27] <thebit> ok, yes.. i've found the bzr you told me, thanks
[17:27] <ogra_> for Mir there is also #ubuntu-mir where the devs hang out
[18:15] <nik90> mesq: when can we expect the app paterns for clock? We already have merge proposals for timer, stopwatch etc but rather wait on the app patern before merging to trunk
[18:38] <mick1203> Is it possible to install Ubunto-touch on an HP device
[18:39] <mick1203> Is it possible to install Ubunto-touch on an HP device
[18:41] <mick1203> specifically HP slate 500
[18:41] <mick1203> I know its a garbage device and all but I have no other use for it
[18:41] <mick1203> Is it possible to install Ubunto-touch on an HP device
[18:41] <mick1203> specifically HP slate 500
[18:41] <mick1203> I know its a garbage device and all but I have no other use for it
[18:50] <ogra_> rsalveti, sergiusens ... so touch seeds are up at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.raring/view/3/touch and we can use them in the new images :)
[18:50] <rsalveti> yeah, trying to remember how the task/meta is generated now
[18:50] <rsalveti> as we don't want a meta package
[18:50]  * sergiusens needs to learn how to use seeds
[18:51] <rsalveti> oh, but we have a meta now
[18:51] <rsalveti> ubuntu-touch-meta
[18:51] <ogra_> yeah the one we have in raring now is pretty useless until all packages are migrated
[18:51] <rsalveti> sure, but we can use this meta at live build
[18:51] <rsalveti> which is already something :-)
[18:51] <ogra_> well, it has no deps
[18:51] <ogra_> deps are only added for existing packages
[18:52] <rsalveti> true, as it consumes the seeds
[18:52] <ogra_> but i guess you could hack up the update.cfg
[18:52] <ogra_> so it would pull from a PPA additionally
[18:52] <rsalveti> ogra_: so should we push this meta at our ppa after germinating it?
[18:52] <ogra_> sounds like the best plan for the moment, yes
[18:52] <rsalveti> ok, that's fine
[18:54]  * ogra_ idly watches his repos sync of android-x86 ... still going on ... two days now :/
[18:54] <ogra_> even mirroring the ubuntu archive is faster
[18:55] <ogra_> haha
[18:56] <ogra_> and i got an FTBFS mail for ubuntu-touch-meta on powerPC
[18:56] <tassadar__> you should ask them to send you DVDs with the whole tree)
[18:56] <ogra_> poor PPC users
[18:57] <ogra_> tassadar__, well i thought i'd try the tar.bz2 they offer ... its 7G and supposed to have the whoe tree ... i tried the whole weekend ... but somehow the download commits suicide after 2-3G all the time
[18:58] <ogra_> so now i resorted to repo sync in the hope that i can at least make it pick up if it fails
[18:59] <ogra_> anyway ... anough work ...
[18:59]  * ogra_ re-locates to a comfy place
[19:00] <Stskeeps> rsalveti: glancing at some of the bionic patches, you're going for a less picky version of my __errno hack so you can run the binaries still?
[19:04] <rsalveti> Stskeeps: I created another lib which contains the __set_errno function, so we could map that with our custom linker
[19:04] <Stskeeps> ah, that makes sense
[19:04] <rsalveti> and avoid all the calls for __set_errno
[19:23] <Mixyde> Hello/Bonsoir
[19:54] <janimo> rsalveti, are hybris changes being sent upstream?
[19:55] <rsalveti> janimo: not yet, I'm trying to find a way to better split the compat code
[19:55] <rsalveti> to avoid incompatibilities with the packaging side
[19:56] <rsalveti> and got sidetracked to work on some other fixes as well, hopefully should be back to this today still
[19:58] <janimo> rsalveti, another question: my build yields a cm-.zip without codename and date of build in it. Do you know which files are those taken from?
[19:58] <rsalveti> janimo: let me look
[19:59] <janimo> so just cm-.zip but the other zip in the output dir of the exact same size -they seem to be hardlinks sharing an inode  - is named ok:
[19:59] <janimo> full_tf101-ota-eng.jani.zip
[20:02] <Mixyde> Hello, I wante to know how can I Change the DPI for the HpTouchpad with Ubuntu Touch
[20:08] <rsalveti> janimo: guess the codename it might not be finding it properly
[20:08] <rsalveti> janimo: is this a new build which is not yet cm compatible?
[20:09] <rsalveti> guess it'll look for PRODUCT_DEVICE
[20:09] <ogra_> Mixyde, see the porting howto (link is in the channel topic)
[20:09]  * rsalveti reminds he needs to approve ogra_'s mr
[20:09] <rsalveti> will make sure this lands today
[20:09] <ogra_> yeah !
[20:09]  * ogra_ dances
[20:10] <janimo> rsalveti, trying a tf101 build for practice
[20:10] <janimo> rsalveti, thanks I'll look for PRODUCT_DEVICE
[20:10] <ogra_> rsalveti, if it landed i'll care for updating the instructions tomorrow
[20:10] <Guest90834> hi, we have a Galaxy Nexus with a broken screen lying around, but I am not sure if it is already unlocked. Is there a way to tell from the adb shell?
[20:10] <ogra_> from fastboot i think
[20:10] <janimo> Guest36969, you can tell if you boot into bootloader mode (press volume keys while rebooting)
[20:11] <ogra_> call fastboot oem unlock
[20:11] <ogra_> janimo, no screen ;)
[20:11] <Mixyde> Ogra thank you, I will try to understand how to do it
[20:11] <janimo> Guest36969, it should have an info screen which tells locked or unlocked among other things
[20:11] <janimo> ogra_, ah completely broken screen :)
[20:11] <ogra_> the fastboot command will tell you if its already unlocked
[20:11] <Guest90834> ah ok
[20:11] <Guest90834> thanks
[20:11] <ogra_> if not it will just unlock
[20:11] <Guest90834> I will try that
[20:11] <Guest90834> great
[20:12] <Guest90834> lets see
[20:13] <rsalveti> janimo: see build/envsetup.sh
[20:13] <rsalveti> there's a function called 'eat'
[20:14] <rsalveti>         MODVERSION=`sed -n -e'/ro\.cm\.version/s/.*=//p' $OUT/system/build.prop`
[20:14] <rsalveti>         ZIPFILE=cm-$MODVERSION.zip
[20:14] <rsalveti> hm, but guess this is more to flash the device, but it should give an idea as well
[20:15] <rsalveti> indeed, it uses the ro.cm.version from system/build.prop
[20:16] <rsalveti> ro.cm.version=10.1-20130312-UNOFFICIAL-mako
[20:16] <rsalveti> for my local mako build
[20:17] <janimo> rsalveti, thanks
[20:17] <rsalveti> janimo: check vendor/cm/config/common.mk
[20:17] <rsalveti> for CM_VERSION
[20:18] <rsalveti> Guest36969: I believe fastboot should tell you from the console as well if it's indeed unlocked
[20:18] <rsalveti> otherwise I guess you can use the buttons to try to unlock
[20:19] <rsalveti> as it doesn't use the touch screen anyway to accept the unlock
[20:19] <rsalveti> you need to do a vol down + power
[20:19] <ogra_> iirc you get a screen that asks you to confirm
[20:20] <rsalveti> yup
[20:20] <pmcgowan> bfiller: do we have a bp for the camera app? or is that wound down enough?
[20:21] <bfiller> pmcgowan: don't have one currently for camera, notepad or media-player. probably should as there are still work items even though not major
[20:21] <pmcgowan> bfiller: should we make one apps bp to capture them?
[20:22] <bfiller> pmcgowan: like video recording for example in camera
[20:22] <bfiller> pmcgowan: I'd say on bp per app
[20:22] <bfiller> one
[20:23] <pmcgowan> bfiller: ok, how do we get them made, do you already have the task lists?
[20:23] <bfiller> pmcgowan: I can take care of it, have some of the tasks captured already in spreadsheet
[20:23] <pmcgowan> bfiller: ok thanks
[20:27] <mesq> nik90: tomorrow or thursday at the latest! sorry, the clock designs are indeed a bit overdue… just pending some tricky alarm clock details. but I hope in the end the results are worth the wait :)
[20:38] <Riussi_> yes, nice meeting you mesq today. i'll continue the alarms when we get the designs
[20:51] <larsgk> dragly: ping
[20:51] <nik90> mesq: np :) I understand there are lot of things to work out not just in the clock app but other core apps as well. take your time
[20:59] <tedg> tvoss, looking at the application archive API proposal, how do you want comments in that?  As /* */ comments?
[21:09] <tedg> tvoss, Too late, already did it :-)
[21:19] <mesq> nik90: cheers, thanks for your understanding and support :)
[21:19] <mesq> Riussi_: my pleasure, hope to catch up with you again soon!
[23:09] <bcurtiswx> phablet-flash is so slow, lol
[23:09] <RobbyF> I disagree
[23:13] <bcurtiswx> 64KB/s download rates
[23:13] <RobbyF> let me try
[23:13] <RobbyF> I get 5-10MB typically
[23:14] <RobbyF> phone is to dead to flash
[23:14] <bcurtiswx> i don't think i've ever gotten a relatively fast connection
[23:15] <bcurtiswx> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip is what i'm DLing
[23:15] <RobbyF> 100%[[23:16] <RobbyF> fast for me, where are you located?
[23:16] <bcurtiswx> eastern USA
[23:16] <RobbyF> east canada
[23:16] <RobbyF> Toronto
[23:17] <bcurtiswx> i wonder why i'm slow, i have a 25/5 connection with my ISP
[23:17] <RobbyF> ISP issues maybe?
[23:17] <bcurtiswx> are you using the same location ?
[23:17] <RobbyF> 6.0 MB/s - 62.2 MB of 481 MB, 1 min left
[23:17] <RobbyF> yup
[23:18] <RobbyF> hosted in london uk by the looks
[23:19] <RobbyF> ur isp must not have good peering with level3 in new york area
[23:19] <bcurtiswx> im in northern VA
[23:19] <bcurtiswx> so i should be OK <shrugs>
[23:20] <RobbyF> I can move that for you if ya want
[23:20] <bcurtiswx> brb
[23:20] <RobbyF> just that file?
[23:21] <RobbyF> I can test my new cloud :)
[23:23] <RobbyF> http://vps1.hostingsharedbox.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=94bc620ecd38a83482d13f30d9c7cc31
[23:23] <RobbyF> not sure if that works or not.