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redtape-renegadeDr Who fans    :|  http://hackaday.com/2013/03/16/sonic-screwdriver-meets-tv-b-gone/   this one's for you , np.00:10
mungbeanthought everyone was in bed00:10
redtape-renegademungbean, I am, now.00:20
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redtape-renegadepopey, Looks like the snows melted in GB http://popey.com/webcam/     |      TheOpenSourcerer, Hi-di-hi07:48
redtape-renegade ooh, The miracle survivor is on tonight at 10pm on More 4   I t's  a  m i r a c l e | http://www.channel4.com/programmes/911-the-miracle-survivor08:18
redtape-renegadeHas anybody tried www.liftshare.com/uk/   at all  ?08:21
kvarleyVery useful command: find [path] -printf '%m %p\n'08:47
kvarleyPrints permissions in a numerical format :)08:47
jacobwMorning09:04
redtape-renegadekvarley, Hi there, nice chat @ the weekend | I'm wondering if you poss. have a Kodak printer and if you know if the ink is worth it ? | http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/category/deal-of-the-day.asp?09:09
directhexkodak ink is super expensive iirc09:09
directhexalso, poor linux support09:09
redtape-renegadei.e. will this use cups with ubuntu ?09:10
kvarleyredtape-renegade: I currently have no printers, they've all died. I'm looking to buy 2 printers at the moment.09:10
kvarleyI'm looking for 2 colour inkjet printers that have flawless Linux support and that have separate colour cartridges.09:10
redtape-renegadeOhh. we have a nice one at the office if you'd like it, to go ?09:10
kvarleyThey're not for me :) for other people09:11
redtape-renegadeS0ooo you don't want  it, right ?09:11
kvarleyredtape-renegade: No, ty09:11
redtape-renegadedirecthex, I don't why you keep doing-a-downer on everything I say [have you got a narcissistic side or something ??] about saving money !       | If you look at #3 on their website ::: http://www.kodak.co.uk/ek/GB/en/printer-faq.htm?utm_source=www.kodak.co.uk&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=well1-IJupdate_022413&utm_campaign=Corp-Homepage     :; THEY SAY , that they are the cheapest, ink, in the industry ?  Wats your problem, matey ?09:17
directhexi've worked retail, selling printers to people. Nobody who bought a Kodak came back happy. Perhaps things have changed since then.09:21
popeymy mum has a kodak printer, doesn't work with her 12.04 ubuntu system ☹09:24
SuperMattpopey: get the drivers into raring then ;)09:28
popeywhat drivers ☹09:28
SuperMattoh09:29
SuperMattdarn it09:29
SuperMattI really don't think that home printing is cost effective09:30
popeyits fine for black and white on lasers09:30
popeyinkjets suck donkeys09:30
SuperMattthey do indeed09:30
SuperMattthere's nothing worse than trying to print to find all the heads are jammed with dried ink09:31
popeyi went to asda to print a photo I had on my iphone recently. You can plug your phone in, download pics and print them09:32
popeyunfortunately I didn't have my iphone cable with me ☹09:32
redtape-renegadedirecthex, Give me one e.g. of a Kodak printer you sold ion a retail shop, Plz ?09:33
czajkowskiall the boots places have iphone cables no android :(09:33
redtape-renegade**in09:33
popeyhowever the photo booth supports printing directly from facebook!09:33
popeySo standing in the store I uploaded the photo over 3g to my facebook account, and set visibility to only me, then logged into my fb account on the photo machine09:33
popey(which was worrying)09:33
popeyit showed the picture, printed it, logged out of facebook09:33
popeyworked rather well09:33
czajkowskihandy09:34
redtape-renegadeHow much was that photo print-out ?09:34
directhexredtape-renegade, you want me to tell you a model of printer sold in pc world in 2003?09:34
redtape-renegadedirecthex, PC World ? Do you still get discounts ?09:35
directhexredtape-renegade, no. i worked there one summer as a student.09:35
redtape-renegadedirecthex, What was your salary @ PC World ?09:36
LaneyO_O09:36
popeyredtape-renegade: can't remember09:36
popeypence09:37
redtape-renegadeWho am I talking to here ? | popey or, directhex  ??09:37
JamesTaitGood morning all! :)09:38
directhexredtape-renegade, sallary is for full-time employees. my wage was somewhere around minimum wage.09:38
popeywell given I just explained that I got a printout, and then you asked how much was the photo printout, I thought that question was aimed at me, other questions aimed at directhex seemed to have his name in09:38
redtape-renegadedirecthex, That's only £600.. did you get any perks or freebies ?09:38
redtape-renegadepopey, soz you took a while to get back to me.  ☹ No harm done. | Keep calm, install ubuntu09:40
popeywat09:40
redtape-renegadepopey, a coupl of pence for a print-out is a steal. well done !09:40
redtape-renegade**couple of..09:41
redtape-renegadedirecthex, I calculate That's only £600.. did you get any perks or freebies at PC World ?09:42
directhexredtape-renegade, er, some small level of staff discount09:43
directhexplus commission, occasionally09:44
redtape-renegadeAnd what did you buy with the discount at PC World ?09:44
* redtape-renegade notes Curry's have devastated in IOMan computer retail park.09:45
directhexsome speakers, iirc?09:46
redtape-renegadeAnd whatr did you think of the Kodak link I gave you at 09:17 . | Do you think it is correct ?#09:47
redtape-renegadehttp://www.kodak.co.uk/ek/GB/en/printer-faq.htm?utm_source=www.kodak.co.uk&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=well1-IJupdate_022413&utm_campaign=Corp-Homepage09:47
directhexi think i wouldn't buy a kodak. YMMV.09:51
popeymy mum bought a digital camera off amazon recently, some samsung thing.. it refuses to power on, i helped her return it, which was stupidly simple09:52
popeyI do like returning things to amazon09:52
directhexi don't09:52
directhexmy last return sucked09:52
popeywas it amazon or a marketplace seller tho?09:52
directhexamazon09:53
popeyerk09:53
nperry  The last time I sent something back to amazon, I took it to the nearest collect+ place at 1330 and by 1800 they had sent me an email saying the refund was on its way.09:54
directhextl;dr: baby food steamer broke within 3 months, manufacturer said return it for a replacement. amazon refunded purchase price instead. except we'd bought it for half price in a sale, so a refund was the worst outcome ever09:54
nperryI checked and it was still sat the shop.09:54
nperryThe next day the money appeared in my bank account :/09:55
czajkowskiI've found them pretty good when dealing with stuff at xmas from stuff that never arrived to stuff that arrived that was not for me, either I got a refund straight away or was told keep the other stuff.09:56
czajkowskishall be doing all of next years xmas shopping on there again09:56
redtape-renegadepopey, a marketplace seller ? Like Dragonmarts Co. Ltd. | I guess they sub-contract .. on ebay aswell-as Amazon :  http://goo.gl/9wkCC09:57
nperryI did pretty much all my shopping on amazon...10:02
nperryI did have a comment from the postman "You seem to order a lot of things from amazon"10:03
redtape-renegadenperry, Have you found it hard doing a Wishlist yet on www.amazon.co.uk ?10:06
BigRedSAmazon wishlists are brilliant10:08
BigRedSEvery time I want something and can't justify buying it I stick it on my wishlist10:08
BigRedSand then when people want to buy me a present they actually end up getting me something I want10:08
popeyheh, same here10:10
popeymy birthday is coming up, so I just updated my wishlist10:10
* Laney just started reading Shut Up & Sit Down so started a board games wishlist ♥10:10
nperryTo be honest I've never setup a wishlist.. but I do know people how have just had a wishlist as a wedding list.10:12
nperry*who10:12
nperryI give up typing.10:13
brobostigongood morning everyone10:20
* redtape-renegade looks at thecomplaintsboard posted at 09:57am10:20
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redtape-renegadeI do like the spell checker ... |   http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/dragonmarts-company-uxcell-c582227.html   | popey, At the bottom:   is that just a javascript  ?10:21
* popey has no idea10:23
nperryRight click and view page source :\10:23
redtape-renegadenperry, I'm a code lion !  |  http://www.complaintsboard.com/scripts/jquery.spellchecker.js10:26
* redtape-renegade tells his inner animal to STFudU !10:28
popeybug 1157114 is grinding my gears10:45
lubotu3bug 1157114 in compiz (Ubuntu) "corruption making desktop unusable after docking/undocking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115711410:45
SuperMattyowzer10:46
SuperMattnot pretty10:46
davmor2Morning all11:05
kvarleyWhat's a sane price to pay for a SSL certificate?11:35
SuperMattI found a place that does them for free...11:40
SuperMatthttp://www.startssl.com/11:40
SuperMattthose guys11:40
SuperMattbut if you want it for business, it's worth forking out, I guess11:41
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kvarleyWhen ordering SSL do I order it for www.example.com or example.com ?12:09
jpdskvarley: *.example.com12:10
kvarleyjpds: I'm not buying wildcard ssl12:10
jpdskvarley: You should really have Apache/whatever redirect example.com to www.example.com.12:10
kvarleyjpds: Can I redirect the other way round?12:11
jpdskvarley: That sounds nasty.12:11
kvarleyjpds: Ok, I'll order for www.example.com and then redirect non-www traffic to www12:11
jpdsbbc.co.uk goes to www.bbc.co.uk.12:11
jpdssis.gov.uk - still doesn't work.12:12
* redtape-renegade realizes the postman has dropped off the www.nisbets.co.uk catalogue to his address instead of the Take-away next door and wonders if there is a reward to give it back ?12:33
redtape-renegadeNice British company | At least they're 30 years old !12:34
Myrttiwe get Nisbets catalogue because we've ordered from them.13:44
MyrttiNice citrus squeezers and frying pans.13:44
kvarleyProbably a stupid question since Apple are so proprietary minded - but can I open iMovie 11 projects on Linux?14:01
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xnoxkvarley: probably not, but I bet it's just a folder such that you should be able to browse for the video snippets inside it.14:33
kvarleyxnox: Ah yes, you're right but they're encoded using a weird video format14:54
kvarleyBecause Apple like to be difficult in every way imaginable14:55
shaunoit's usually either DV or h264.  one because it was the native capture format for a long time, and the other because it benefits from a lot of hardware acceleration15:08
Laneysome guys have turned up to hack bits off my lovely tree15:16
popeyLaney: have you made them tea?15:24
Laneyno, they didn't come and say hi15:24
popeyoutrage15:24
Laneyso they got to watch me eating a poached egg sandwich15:24
popeyI'd pay extra for that.15:24
popeyegg banjo as cied calls them15:25
Laneyoh, it was messy15:25
Laneyyolk... everywhere...15:25
TheOpenSourcererlo popey - I haz a new(er) Volvo V7015:28
popeyoooh15:28
popeyhow new?15:28
TheOpenSourcerer£2k15:28
popeynice!15:28
TheOpenSourcerer51 plate15:28
popeybar-gain15:28
popeyhah, same as mine15:28
popeypetrol or taxi?15:28
TheOpenSourcerer2.4 Turbo.15:28
TheOpenSourcererVery clean15:28
TheOpenSourcererPetrol15:28
popeyhow many furlongs?15:28
TheOpenSourcererVery similar to my old one. Photos to follow.15:28
TheOpenSourcerer132k15:28
popeysimilar to mine15:28
popeyis it an SE? leather etc?15:29
TheOpenSourcererAll Leather, loads of toys :-)15:29
popey15:29
TheOpenSourcererMore than my old one15:29
TheOpenSourcererHeated seats15:29
popeyooh, mine doesnt have that15:29
popeybut i always feel like I've shit my pants in a car with heated seats15:30
mungbeanany regular get_iplayer users know how i can download programmes directly as mpeg-4 enclosed in avi?15:32
brobostigonMar 19 15:25:40 raspberrypi motion: [1] config image height (232) is not modulo 1615:33
brobostigonany ideas what that error output from motion means?15:33
brobostigonmungbean: install ffmpeg.15:33
popeymungbean: surely you can only download what they put out, which is always h.264 isn't it?15:34
popeyand then convert as brobostigon says with ffmpeg / libav15:34
mungbeanthe documentation isn't great for get_ipplayer, but it seems you can ask it to spawn ffmpeg to convert for you , right?15:35
popeyit does by default15:36
popeyto change the container from .flv to .mp4 iirc15:36
popeynot used it for a while15:36
TheOpenSourcererpopey: See G+ for totally uninteresting pictures15:36
brobostigonyep. install ffmpeg, and get-iplayer will do it automatically.15:36
popeyTheOpenSourcerer: nice ☺15:37
TheOpenSourcererLike the fact they're the same colour! New one has cream leather. Old one was black15:38
brobostigonnice car.15:38
TheOpenSourcererIt's a lot of car for £2k brobostigon15:38
brobostigonTheOpenSourcerer: definatly, yes, :)15:38
popeyI'd be tempted to get another when mine dies15:39
popeydashboard is dead on mine ☹15:39
* brobostigon continues searching for that error.15:39
mungbeanbrobostigon: sorry, bit confused, got any examples?15:39
TheOpenSourcererwe decided to not make a big decision yet. This should do us for a while until we can finally make up our minds on what we really should do.15:39
popeywise15:39
brobostigonmungbean: for example. yesterday i pulled an ep of dr who with get-iplayer, i had ffmpeg installed, so get-iplayer did the conversion an ended up with a *mp4.15:40
mungbeanbrobostigon: got the command in your history please?15:40
brobostigonmungbean: moment.15:41
mungbeancheers15:41
mungbeanjust had a baby and surviving on zero sleep and cannot do any brain work15:41
popeymungbean: you dont have to explicitly ask it to, if it finds ffmpeg it does it15:41
mungbeanmy dvd player accepts .avi files in mpeg-4 format15:41
brobostigonyep, "get-iplayer --nopurge --get 281"15:42
mungbeanwow, that's it?15:43
brobostigonyes.15:43
popeythat wont get hd tho15:44
popeynot that you need it with your telly :D15:44
brobostigonquite, :)15:44
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mungbeanah, i'm coming up against my usual ffmpeg problem15:55
mungbeanThis program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead.15:56
mungbeanUnknown encoder 'libmp3lame'15:56
mungbeanwhic halways yields out of date info about whether ubuntu ffmpeg is supporting mp3 or not :(15:57
popeythere's a libavcodec* package15:58
popeyand one called libavcodec*-extras15:58
mungbeanPackage libavcodec-extra-52 is not available, but is referred to by another package.15:59
mungbeanThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or15:59
mungbeanis only available from another source15:59
mungbeanE: Package 'libavcodec-extra-52' has no installation candidate15:59
popeywhat version of ubuntu?15:59
mungbean120415:59
popeyit's -5316:00
popeyhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/libavcodec-extra-5316:00
mungbeanjust realised i was copying an old suggestion :(16:01
mungbean53 is working thanks16:01
mungbeantries again...16:01
mungbean\o/ thanks16:02
popeynote that it depends on liblame.. which fixes your mp3 issue16:02
mungbeani had libavcodec53 not extra..16:02
mungbeanand liblame was installed16:03
popeyinteresting16:03
mungbeanbut ffmpeg seems to be working16:03
popeywell, ffmpeg wouldn't have used it unless you have extra i think16:03
popeysilly encumbered codecs16:03
brobostigonis there a way, of getting the direct setting, like the camera output res etc, from console. ?16:09
mungbeanmaybe gphoto?16:11
popeyoooh http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133744016:12
popeyhadn't heard of streamer before16:12
popeylooks handy16:12
brobostigonmungbean: gphoto does no work form terminal, it is a X prog.16:12
brobostigonfrom*16:12
mungbeantheres a cli - gphoto2?16:13
brobostigonhmmm,16:13
mungbeanwas looking at it to maybe speed up photo transfer to my machine because for certain cameras it supports getting only new files16:17
mungbeanbut it doesn't tell you which cameras16:17
brobostigonmungbean: does it work with webcams?16:19
brobostigonmungbean: as it seems to be still cameras only.16:19
mungbeanah, i saw camera16:20
mungbeandidn't realise webcam16:20
brobostigonmungbean: yes, i was refferring to the error i was talking about earlier.16:20
redtape-renegadeJust so I know ...16:29
redtape-renegadewhoopsie wrong channel .XD16:29
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redtape-renegadeWaaaaaugh , Ive eaten too many cookies, today.16:56
redtape-renegadedwatkins, pingy16:58
redtape-renegadeRyanAir have bought 175x Boeing 737's for 12 Million .. largest aircraft order in history  .. wonder if they will land in ManxLand, like Easyjet do ?17:04
redtape-renegade**12 Billion (slight error there) .. nice hostess I **** once.17:07
czajkowskiredtape-renegade: just because you *** out doesnt mean we dont know what you are talking about17:07
czajkowskimind watching the language there please redtape-renegade17:08
* redtape-renegade mutes himself. The TA will be next.17:09
shaunocurious fellow17:10
czajkowski*sigh*17:12
Laney¬_¬17:13
Laneyon a lighter note17:18
* Laney considers going to latitude festival this summer17:19
Laney\o/17:19
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mungbean:( my dvd player still isn't accepting my ffmpeg'd mpeg4 .avi files :(17:41
mungbeanif its gonna be that fussy at playing files they should at least provide documentation17:41
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AzelphurAnyone here happen to have an Alienware M15x?18:06
MartijnVdSAzelphur: apparently not18:49
MartijnVdS;)18:49
Azelphurindeed :(18:50
Azelphurseems my brother has bricked his18:50
Azelphurbad bios update, won't turn on at all, no lights, no nothing.18:50
MartijnVdSouch18:50
Azelphurindeed18:50
MartijnVdSFind the flash chip, attach in-circuit programmer? ;)18:51
Azelphurhaha, beyond me18:52
* awilkins hates launchpad build queue priorities20:04
awilkins(but only when they affect me personally)20:05
redtape-renegadeMore 4 won't play Live in my chromium browser ( I just registered with my gmail) .... Is there anything I need to know about that , to getn it to work ??22:16
redtape-renegade**that, to get it to work ?22:16
redtape-renegade** I've also tried it in FFox to the same result..22:19
redtape-renegadeOh, It says now that I have insufficient bandwidth speed .. Well that a pound a day for internet down the tubes then .. it's usually over a Megabit a minute.22:24
shaunoI recently discovered I can 'trick' 150mbit out of mine.  it seems like a rather broken behaviour though22:26
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