=== triple-clones is now known as tripleclones [00:10] Dr Who fans :| http://hackaday.com/2013/03/16/sonic-screwdriver-meets-tv-b-gone/ this one's for you , np. [00:10] thought everyone was in bed [00:20] mungbean, I am, now. === KapuKapu is now known as RadiumCat === Hornet- is now known as Hornet === Hornet- is now known as Hornet === Hornet- is now known as Hornet === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [07:48] popey, Looks like the snows melted in GB http://popey.com/webcam/ | TheOpenSourcerer, Hi-di-hi [08:18] ooh, The miracle survivor is on tonight at 10pm on More 4 I t's a m i r a c l e | http://www.channel4.com/programmes/911-the-miracle-survivor [08:21] Has anybody tried www.liftshare.com/uk/ at all ? [08:47] Very useful command: find [path] -printf '%m %p\n' [08:47] Prints permissions in a numerical format :) [09:04] Morning [09:09] kvarley, Hi there, nice chat @ the weekend | I'm wondering if you poss. have a Kodak printer and if you know if the ink is worth it ? | http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/category/deal-of-the-day.asp? [09:09] kodak ink is super expensive iirc [09:09] also, poor linux support [09:10] i.e. will this use cups with ubuntu ? [09:10] redtape-renegade: I currently have no printers, they've all died. I'm looking to buy 2 printers at the moment. [09:10] I'm looking for 2 colour inkjet printers that have flawless Linux support and that have separate colour cartridges. [09:10] Ohh. we have a nice one at the office if you'd like it, to go ? [09:11] They're not for me :) for other people [09:11] S0ooo you don't want it, right ? [09:11] redtape-renegade: No, ty [09:17] directhex, I don't why you keep doing-a-downer on everything I say [have you got a narcissistic side or something ??] about saving money ! | If you look at #3 on their website ::: http://www.kodak.co.uk/ek/GB/en/printer-faq.htm?utm_source=www.kodak.co.uk&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=well1-IJupdate_022413&utm_campaign=Corp-Homepage :; THEY SAY , that they are the cheapest, ink, in the industry ? Wats your problem, matey ? [09:21] i've worked retail, selling printers to people. Nobody who bought a Kodak came back happy. Perhaps things have changed since then. [09:24] my mum has a kodak printer, doesn't work with her 12.04 ubuntu system ☹ [09:28] popey: get the drivers into raring then ;) [09:28] what drivers ☹ [09:29] oh [09:29] darn it [09:30] I really don't think that home printing is cost effective [09:30] its fine for black and white on lasers [09:30] inkjets suck donkeys [09:30] they do indeed [09:31] there's nothing worse than trying to print to find all the heads are jammed with dried ink [09:32] i went to asda to print a photo I had on my iphone recently. You can plug your phone in, download pics and print them [09:32] unfortunately I didn't have my iphone cable with me ☹ [09:33] directhex, Give me one e.g. of a Kodak printer you sold ion a retail shop, Plz ? [09:33] all the boots places have iphone cables no android :( [09:33] **in [09:33] however the photo booth supports printing directly from facebook! [09:33] So standing in the store I uploaded the photo over 3g to my facebook account, and set visibility to only me, then logged into my fb account on the photo machine [09:33] (which was worrying) [09:33] it showed the picture, printed it, logged out of facebook [09:33] worked rather well [09:34] handy [09:34] How much was that photo print-out ? [09:34] redtape-renegade, you want me to tell you a model of printer sold in pc world in 2003? [09:35] directhex, PC World ? Do you still get discounts ? [09:35] redtape-renegade, no. i worked there one summer as a student. [09:36] directhex, What was your salary @ PC World ? [09:36] O_O [09:36] redtape-renegade: can't remember [09:37] pence [09:37] Who am I talking to here ? | popey or, directhex ?? [09:38] Good morning all! :) [09:38] redtape-renegade, sallary is for full-time employees. my wage was somewhere around minimum wage. [09:38] well given I just explained that I got a printout, and then you asked how much was the photo printout, I thought that question was aimed at me, other questions aimed at directhex seemed to have his name in [09:38] directhex, That's only £600.. did you get any perks or freebies ? [09:40] popey, soz you took a while to get back to me. ☹ No harm done. | Keep calm, install ubuntu [09:40] wat [09:40] popey, a coupl of pence for a print-out is a steal. well done ! [09:41] **couple of.. [09:42] directhex, I calculate That's only £600.. did you get any perks or freebies at PC World ? [09:43] redtape-renegade, er, some small level of staff discount [09:44] plus commission, occasionally [09:44] And what did you buy with the discount at PC World ? [09:45] * redtape-renegade notes Curry's have devastated in IOMan computer retail park. [09:46] some speakers, iirc? [09:47] And whatr did you think of the Kodak link I gave you at 09:17 . | Do you think it is correct ?# [09:47] http://www.kodak.co.uk/ek/GB/en/printer-faq.htm?utm_source=www.kodak.co.uk&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=well1-IJupdate_022413&utm_campaign=Corp-Homepage [09:51] i think i wouldn't buy a kodak. YMMV. [09:52] my mum bought a digital camera off amazon recently, some samsung thing.. it refuses to power on, i helped her return it, which was stupidly simple [09:52] I do like returning things to amazon [09:52] i don't [09:52] my last return sucked [09:52] was it amazon or a marketplace seller tho? [09:53] amazon [09:53] erk [09:54] The last time I sent something back to amazon, I took it to the nearest collect+ place at 1330 and by 1800 they had sent me an email saying the refund was on its way. [09:54] tl;dr: baby food steamer broke within 3 months, manufacturer said return it for a replacement. amazon refunded purchase price instead. except we'd bought it for half price in a sale, so a refund was the worst outcome ever [09:54] I checked and it was still sat the shop. [09:55] The next day the money appeared in my bank account :/ [09:56] I've found them pretty good when dealing with stuff at xmas from stuff that never arrived to stuff that arrived that was not for me, either I got a refund straight away or was told keep the other stuff. [09:56] shall be doing all of next years xmas shopping on there again [09:57] popey, a marketplace seller ? Like Dragonmarts Co. Ltd. | I guess they sub-contract .. on ebay aswell-as Amazon : http://goo.gl/9wkCC [10:02] I did pretty much all my shopping on amazon... [10:03] I did have a comment from the postman "You seem to order a lot of things from amazon" [10:06] nperry, Have you found it hard doing a Wishlist yet on www.amazon.co.uk ? [10:08] Amazon wishlists are brilliant [10:08] Every time I want something and can't justify buying it I stick it on my wishlist [10:08] and then when people want to buy me a present they actually end up getting me something I want [10:10] heh, same here [10:10] my birthday is coming up, so I just updated my wishlist [10:10] * Laney just started reading Shut Up & Sit Down so started a board games wishlist ♥ [10:12] To be honest I've never setup a wishlist.. but I do know people how have just had a wishlist as a wedding list. [10:12] *who [10:13] I give up typing. [10:20] good morning everyone [10:20] * redtape-renegade looks at thecomplaintsboard posted at 09:57am === h is now known as Hornet [10:21] I do like the spell checker ... | http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/dragonmarts-company-uxcell-c582227.html | popey, At the bottom: is that just a javascript ? [10:23] * popey has no idea [10:23] Right click and view page source :\ [10:26] nperry, I'm a code lion ! | http://www.complaintsboard.com/scripts/jquery.spellchecker.js [10:28] * redtape-renegade tells his inner animal to STFudU ! [10:45] bug 1157114 is grinding my gears [10:45] bug 1157114 in compiz (Ubuntu) "corruption making desktop unusable after docking/undocking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157114 [10:46] yowzer [10:46] not pretty [11:05] Morning all [11:35] What's a sane price to pay for a SSL certificate? [11:40] I found a place that does them for free... [11:40] http://www.startssl.com/ [11:40] those guys [11:41] but if you want it for business, it's worth forking out, I guess === marxjohn1on is now known as marxjohnson [12:09] When ordering SSL do I order it for www.example.com or example.com ? [12:10] kvarley: *.example.com [12:10] jpds: I'm not buying wildcard ssl [12:10] kvarley: You should really have Apache/whatever redirect example.com to www.example.com. [12:11] jpds: Can I redirect the other way round? [12:11] kvarley: That sounds nasty. [12:11] jpds: Ok, I'll order for www.example.com and then redirect non-www traffic to www [12:11] bbc.co.uk goes to www.bbc.co.uk. [12:12] sis.gov.uk - still doesn't work. [12:33] * redtape-renegade realizes the postman has dropped off the www.nisbets.co.uk catalogue to his address instead of the Take-away next door and wonders if there is a reward to give it back ? [12:34] Nice British company | At least they're 30 years old ! [13:44] we get Nisbets catalogue because we've ordered from them. [13:44] Nice citrus squeezers and frying pans. [14:01] Probably a stupid question since Apple are so proprietary minded - but can I open iMovie 11 projects on Linux? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:33] kvarley: probably not, but I bet it's just a folder such that you should be able to browse for the video snippets inside it. [14:54] xnox: Ah yes, you're right but they're encoded using a weird video format [14:55] Because Apple like to be difficult in every way imaginable [15:08] it's usually either DV or h264. one because it was the native capture format for a long time, and the other because it benefits from a lot of hardware acceleration [15:16] some guys have turned up to hack bits off my lovely tree [15:24] Laney: have you made them tea? [15:24] no, they didn't come and say hi [15:24] outrage [15:24] so they got to watch me eating a poached egg sandwich [15:24] I'd pay extra for that. [15:25] egg banjo as cied calls them [15:25] oh, it was messy [15:25] yolk... everywhere... [15:28] lo popey - I haz a new(er) Volvo V70 [15:28] oooh [15:28] how new? [15:28] £2k [15:28] nice! [15:28] 51 plate [15:28] bar-gain [15:28] hah, same as mine [15:28] petrol or taxi? [15:28] 2.4 Turbo. [15:28] Very clean [15:28] Petrol [15:28] how many furlongs? [15:28] Very similar to my old one. Photos to follow. [15:28] 132k [15:28] similar to mine [15:29] is it an SE? leather etc? [15:29] All Leather, loads of toys :-) [15:29] ☺ [15:29] More than my old one [15:29] Heated seats [15:29] ooh, mine doesnt have that [15:30] but i always feel like I've shit my pants in a car with heated seats [15:32] any regular get_iplayer users know how i can download programmes directly as mpeg-4 enclosed in avi? [15:33] Mar 19 15:25:40 raspberrypi motion: [1] config image height (232) is not modulo 16 [15:33] any ideas what that error output from motion means? [15:33] mungbean: install ffmpeg. [15:34] mungbean: surely you can only download what they put out, which is always h.264 isn't it? [15:34] and then convert as brobostigon says with ffmpeg / libav [15:35] the documentation isn't great for get_ipplayer, but it seems you can ask it to spawn ffmpeg to convert for you , right? [15:36] it does by default [15:36] to change the container from .flv to .mp4 iirc [15:36] not used it for a while [15:36] popey: See G+ for totally uninteresting pictures [15:36] yep. install ffmpeg, and get-iplayer will do it automatically. [15:37] TheOpenSourcerer: nice ☺ [15:38] Like the fact they're the same colour! New one has cream leather. Old one was black [15:38] nice car. [15:38] It's a lot of car for £2k brobostigon [15:38] TheOpenSourcerer: definatly, yes, :) [15:39] I'd be tempted to get another when mine dies [15:39] dashboard is dead on mine ☹ [15:39] * brobostigon continues searching for that error. [15:39] brobostigon: sorry, bit confused, got any examples? [15:39] we decided to not make a big decision yet. This should do us for a while until we can finally make up our minds on what we really should do. [15:39] wise [15:40] mungbean: for example. yesterday i pulled an ep of dr who with get-iplayer, i had ffmpeg installed, so get-iplayer did the conversion an ended up with a *mp4. [15:40] brobostigon: got the command in your history please? [15:41] mungbean: moment. [15:41] cheers [15:41] just had a baby and surviving on zero sleep and cannot do any brain work [15:41] mungbean: you dont have to explicitly ask it to, if it finds ffmpeg it does it [15:41] my dvd player accepts .avi files in mpeg-4 format [15:42] yep, "get-iplayer --nopurge --get 281" [15:43] wow, that's it? [15:43] yes. [15:44] that wont get hd tho [15:44] not that you need it with your telly :D [15:44] quite, :) === RadiumCat is now known as StrontiumCat [15:55] ah, i'm coming up against my usual ffmpeg problem [15:56] This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead. [15:56] Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame' [15:57] whic halways yields out of date info about whether ubuntu ffmpeg is supporting mp3 or not :( [15:58] there's a libavcodec* package [15:58] and one called libavcodec*-extras [15:59] Package libavcodec-extra-52 is not available, but is referred to by another package. [15:59] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [15:59] is only available from another source [15:59] E: Package 'libavcodec-extra-52' has no installation candidate [15:59] what version of ubuntu? [15:59] 1204 [16:00] it's -53 [16:00] http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/libavcodec-extra-53 [16:01] just realised i was copying an old suggestion :( [16:01] 53 is working thanks [16:01] tries again... [16:02] \o/ thanks [16:02] note that it depends on liblame.. which fixes your mp3 issue [16:02] i had libavcodec53 not extra.. [16:03] and liblame was installed [16:03] interesting [16:03] but ffmpeg seems to be working [16:03] well, ffmpeg wouldn't have used it unless you have extra i think [16:03] silly encumbered codecs [16:09] is there a way, of getting the direct setting, like the camera output res etc, from console. ? [16:11] maybe gphoto? [16:12] oooh http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1337440 [16:12] hadn't heard of streamer before [16:12] looks handy [16:12] mungbean: gphoto does no work form terminal, it is a X prog. [16:12] from* [16:13] theres a cli - gphoto2? [16:13] hmmm, [16:17] was looking at it to maybe speed up photo transfer to my machine because for certain cameras it supports getting only new files [16:17] but it doesn't tell you which cameras [16:19] mungbean: does it work with webcams? [16:19] mungbean: as it seems to be still cameras only. [16:20] ah, i saw camera [16:20] didn't realise webcam [16:20] mungbean: yes, i was refferring to the error i was talking about earlier. [16:29] Just so I know ... [16:29] whoopsie wrong channel .XD === emma_ is now known as emma [16:56] Waaaaaugh , Ive eaten too many cookies, today. [16:58] dwatkins, pingy [17:04] RyanAir have bought 175x Boeing 737's for 12 Million .. largest aircraft order in history .. wonder if they will land in ManxLand, like Easyjet do ? [17:07] **12 Billion (slight error there) .. nice hostess I **** once. [17:07] redtape-renegade: just because you *** out doesnt mean we dont know what you are talking about [17:08] mind watching the language there please redtape-renegade [17:09] * redtape-renegade mutes himself. The TA will be next. [17:10] curious fellow [17:12] *sigh* [17:13] ¬_¬ [17:18] on a lighter note [17:19] * Laney considers going to latitude festival this summer [17:19] \o/ === salzbro is now known as salzb [17:41] :( my dvd player still isn't accepting my ffmpeg'd mpeg4 .avi files :( [17:41] if its gonna be that fussy at playing files they should at least provide documentation === alan_g is now known as alan_g|chess [18:06] Anyone here happen to have an Alienware M15x? [18:49] Azelphur: apparently not [18:49] ;) [18:50] indeed :( [18:50] seems my brother has bricked his [18:50] bad bios update, won't turn on at all, no lights, no nothing. [18:50] ouch [18:50] indeed [18:51] Find the flash chip, attach in-circuit programmer? ;) [18:52] haha, beyond me [20:04] * awilkins hates launchpad build queue priorities [20:05] (but only when they affect me personally) [22:16] More 4 won't play Live in my chromium browser ( I just registered with my gmail) .... Is there anything I need to know about that , to getn it to work ?? [22:16] **that, to get it to work ? [22:19] ** I've also tried it in FFox to the same result.. [22:24] Oh, It says now that I have insufficient bandwidth speed .. Well that a pound a day for internet down the tubes then .. it's usually over a Megabit a minute. [22:26] I recently discovered I can 'trick' 150mbit out of mine. it seems like a rather broken behaviour though === chalced is now known as chalcedony