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melodiehi21:50
pdurbinmelodie: hi22:46
melodiehello pdurbin22:47
pdurbinmelodie: you started it :)22:47
pdurbinmelodie: what's on your mind?22:48
melodieUbuntu Openbox Remix is in my mind :D22:49
melodiespread the word, find people to help improve it, test it... use it !22:49
melodiewell here is Ubuntu women project, I'm a woman, I lead a project and... there are not enough women on the forum where I am...22:50
melodieLinuxVillage :)22:50
pdurbinhmm, yeah, when i searched i found this: http://www.linuxvillage.net/t277-Ubuntu-Openbox-Remix-to-test.htm22:51
melodiethere are one or two more, but they didn't post yet...22:51
melodie:D22:51
melodiebravo !!22:51
pdurbini saw a cool tweet today about pyladies being 20% of the population22:51
melodiethe new linuxvillage is here : http://beta.linuxvillage.net22:51
melodieok22:51
melodieI don't code, I only know how to put pieces together and sometimes I am lucky coders are interested to help add what lacks to join the pieces22:52
pdurbin"Holy effing crap. We're over 20% women. #pycon #pyladies" -- https://twitter.com/roguelynn/status/31331977614972928022:53
melodiethis is ubuntu rc7 thread http://beta.linuxvillage.net/index.php/topic,198.0.html and there has been RC8 and after that Bento122:53
pdurbincoding starts with putting pieces together. you should keep it up :)22:53
melodieI have been doing that for several years in another distro and now I learn to do it the Ubuntu way22:54
melodieI am not going to leave it, it's a global project22:54
melodiehere is RC8 : http://meets.free.fr/debian/images/obubuntu-RC8-menus.png22:55
pdurbinnice22:55
melodieand Bento1 has a more classic openbox theme, added Brasero, and fixed a little glitch22:55
melodiethere are a few more little glitches and three big works to do on it... not a problem for use once installed though22:56
melodiethanks22:56
melodieBento1 is here : http://tyruiop.eu/~melodie/Downloads/ISOS/Ubuntu/22:56
melodieRC3 is a minimal, not as up to date...22:56
melodiepdurbin what about you ?22:57
melodiehave you projects ?22:57
pdurbinoh, sure23:02
pdurbinhttps://github.com/pdurbin?tab=activity23:03
pdurbin(warning: I am not a woman)23:03
* melodie visit23:03
melodiepdurbin ok, I'm not sexist23:03
melodie:D23:03
pdurbinheh. good23:03
melodienot sure I get it : do you develop in Java, in Python, in Perl, or in the three ?23:04
pdurbinat my new job it's Java. previously mostly Perl. a tiny bit of Python23:05
melodiealright23:05
pdurbinoh, you're welcome to promote your projects to this linux-related community: http://crimsonfu.github.com23:06
melodiedo you contribute for new projects sometimes ?23:06
melodiewhose is it ?23:06
pdurbinwhose community? mine I guess. I started it :) I need a place for sysadmins to chat. the channel logs are here: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/today23:07
melodie"crimsonfu is a group of sysadmins who code."23:07
pdurbinyes23:07
melodieI don't code. :'(23:07
pdurbinmeh, that's ok23:07
melodieI can only align a few chains in bash, and not many23:07
pdurbinalign chains? that sounds like bioinformatics23:08
melodieI look at your channel logs23:08
melodiechain characters :D23:08
pdurbinok :)23:08
melodieif you test the ubuntu openbox test spins, you will find a Exec= command line in a lonely /usr/share/applications/ desktop file23:09
melodiein the Applications > Preferences menus there is an entry to reconfigure the keyboard to your need.23:09
melodiethis is the Debian command line which I never remember about and is so useful23:10
melodieand the program lxkeyboard does not work, and does not keep the configuration so I decided to start it from a maximized console (until someone fixes the gui app... )23:11
melodiethis is about the best I know to do in a shell23:11
melodieand in desktop files23:11
melodiebut I am starting to know a bit about the system though, this is what I learned most23:12
pdurbinsounds useful23:12
melodieanyone who may have the need for a very light, optimized, and still easy desktop may want to have it23:12
melodieeven on the new fancy tablets and stuff : just remove the panel, put icons there... perhaps a pair of xfce panels with quick launchers setup to autohide : what more is needed ?23:13
melodie:D23:13
melodiedo you know zram module ?23:13
melodieyou know what ? I like that "When In Doubt, Make It Public"23:14
melodiea lot23:14
pdurbinme too. i tend to hang out in channels (like this one) that are logged: http://wiki.greptilian.com/haunts23:15
pdurbinI mean... if I'm going to write, I'd might as well save it, and be able to link to it23:16
melodieok23:16
pdurbinI haven't added this channel yet because it's so quiet23:16
* pdurbin runs /names23:17
pdurbin25 nicks in here...23:17
melodieI'd be very honored to become member of your crimsonfu place, just what can I do there ?23:17
pdurbinyou can ask and answer questions, like the rest of us23:17
melodieis crimson related to the king crimson old group ?23:17
melodie:)23:17
pdurbinhmm, no... :)23:18
melodiedo you know their music ?23:18
melodie(70's)23:18
pdurbini don't, but i sounds familiar23:18
pdurbinyou know, i bet there are some openbox users #crimsonfu...23:19
melodieit was heard as a bit wild at the time23:19
pdurbinyeah, openbox: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/search.pl?channel=crimsonfu&nick=&q=openbox23:19
melodiepdurbin the truth is that all the project I am leading around it is built on one small application formerly written in lua, then ported to C by someone who wants his desktop to be light, and easy to manager23:20
melodie-r23:20
melodiemanage23:20
melodiethis is openbox-menu23:20
melodiepdurbin a chan, and any other place where to log/subscribe to ? ml ? else ?23:21
pdurbinsubscribe to crimsonfu?23:21
melodieI have been using Archlinux mainly since the beginning of 2006. you ?23:22
melodieyes23:22
pdurbini use red hat stuff primarily23:22
* pdurbin ducks23:22
melodie:D23:22
melodiesome people from Redhat have helped me solve tricky stuff for another distro where I contributed, in the paste23:23
pdurbini guess you could put this in your rss reader: https://github.com/crimsonfu/crimsonfu.github.com/commits/master.atom23:23
melodiebut when "In doubt I wanted to ask advice publicly" : I have been banned. XD23:23
pdurbinoh wait, google reader is dead23:23
melodiethen we created LinuxVillage. :)23:24
melodieI don't read RSS anymore, only news at the LinuxVillage forum, and a few mailing lists23:24
pdurbinso linuxvillage is supposed to be more friendly?23:24
melodieit is very friendly23:24
pdurbinfriendly is good23:25
melodieit has the usual blabla at registering, then our rules at the Debian and LinuxChix rules: be polite, be helpful23:25
melodieand that's it.23:25
pdurbin"king crimson" -- http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2013-03-19#i_6606742 :)23:25
melodiewhat is it there ?23:26
melodieI don't even know what "luddite" means23:26
pdurbin"speaking of music, crimsonfu reminded someone of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Crimson "23:26
melodieoh23:26
pdurbina luddite is someone who doesn't like technology23:27
melodieoh ? I wonder what the translation would be in French23:27
pdurbinthey destroyed the machines that would take their jobs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite23:27
melodieah23:27
melodieI see23:27
melodieI remember now23:28
pdurbinhttp://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddisme23:28
melodiethe guy's at LinuxVillage told me about it and I discovered something very new23:28
melodieyes, I've seen the two places, really interesting :23:28
melodie!23:28
pdurbinah, I see. different languages on linuxvillage23:31
melodiepdurbin I just stumbled upon one of your pages, at wordpress23:31
melodiehttp://beta.linuxvillage.net has French and English23:31
pdurbinwordpress? i don't have a wordpress site...23:31
melodiewe are almost like a real village :D23:31
melodieno ?23:32
melodieok23:32
melodiethat's a quote from you then23:32
pdurbinhave a link?23:32
melodielooked too fast here : http://greptilian.com/23:32
melodieit refers to grep, right ?23:32
pdurbinyep23:32
pdurbinthat's my site23:33
melodiegrep and find are my best friends23:33
pdurbin+123:33
pdurbinwell, ack is better than grep23:33
melodieI found a js quote I think, that leads here: https://perennialmillennial.wordpress.com/2013/03/13/the-programmer-hierarchy23:33
melodieI have to discover then23:33
pdurbinack 1.96 -- better than grep, a source code search tool for programmers - http://betterthangrep.com/23:33
melodieyou probably know the drak control center from mandriva, written in Perl ?23:34
pdurbinhmm, nope23:35
melodieI try to grab a pic ?23:35
pdurbini've never used mandriva23:35
melodieI have been using one of it's forks for about 3 years23:36
melodiehttp://www.freetechie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/pclinuxos_apps_control_center.jpg23:36
melodiethis works so well, be it gui or the console versions for tty's, with the different drak tools23:37
pdurbinhmm. new to me23:37
melodieall the drak tools are written in Perl23:37
melodieMandriva / Mandrake before, now Mageia use it, and PCLinuxOS since it was forked first from Mandrake back in 200323:38
melodieits the most reliable admin tool ever23:38
melodiewhat makes it differ from other control centers is that it is desktop agnostic : only admin tools are gathered there, not any tool related to a specific destkop23:39
melodieand this is very clever23:39
pdurbinI find Perl to be quite reliable23:39
melodieI find this tool and the set that goes with it particularly well thought23:40
melodieyou install a new admin tool : it appears in the main gui23:40
melodieyou remove it (ie : 3D) it disappears. and each one works great most of the time23:40
pdurbinnice23:41
melodie:)23:41
melodiethis lacks in other gui distributions, imo23:41
melodieis #crimsonfu on freenode ?23:43
pdurbinyep23:43
melodiecoming23:46
melodie...23:46
pdurbinheh23:46
melodie?23:46
pdurbinthere you are: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2013-03-19#i_660677523:49
melodieI now where I am, thanks. :D23:50
melodiedo a "whois" on my nick ?23:50
melodiepdurbin $ sudo pacman -S ack23:52
melodieCibles (2) : perl-file-next-1.10-2  ack-1.96-123:52
melodieI'll try using it23:52

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