[05:05] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:06] <Kilos> power might go again this morn. dunno if they did yesterday what they said they were gonna do today
[06:05] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:23] <Kilos> hi henkj Superhuman 
[06:23] <Kilos> Maaz, wb
[06:23] <Maaz> Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend
[06:24] <Kilos> i wonder why he didnt get a tail
[06:33] <henkj> hi Kilos 
[06:54] <superfly> morning Maaz
[06:54] <superfly> *maiatoday
[06:54] <superfly> eish
[06:56] <Kilos> hehe hiya maiatoday 
[07:03] <superfly> Kilos: you don't even say hi to me anymore!
[07:04] <Kilos> 07.05 Kilos> morning superfly and others
[07:05] <superfly> gah
[07:05] <Kilos> how can i forget you superfly ?
[07:05] <superfly> I missed that
[07:05] <Kilos> i forgive you
[07:05] <Kilos> hehe
[07:05] <superfly> Thank you :-)
[07:05] <Kilos> old age and min sleep
[07:06] <superfly> that it be
[07:08] <Kilos> have you looked at debian kde superfly ?
[07:09] <Kilos> i was thinking of maybe using night surfer next month to get it if its good because of the deb-delta factor
[07:10] <Kilos> just on one drive though. wont give up ubuntu and will keep hoping Symmetria and Fanie get us a deb-delta server going
[07:11] <superfly> Kilos: I have a Debian KDE virtual machine, it's a lot like Kubuntu, but without all the Ubuntu/Kubuntu extra bits
[07:11] <superfly> and it's more difficult to get things like nVidia drivers (they aren't in the repository)
[07:11] <Kilos> ouch
[07:12] <Kilos> ty maybe ill leave it then
[07:12] <superfly> For most people, Ubuntu or Kubuntu are more than they need
[07:12] <tumbleweed> superfly: erm, Debian has Nvidia drivers in non-free
[07:13] <superfly> tumbleweed: oh, do they?
[07:13] <tumbleweed> but you'll probably find Kubuntu has newer KDE much faster
[07:13] <tumbleweed> superfly: yeah, lways has
[07:13] <superfly> OK, I did some Googling, and it looked like you needed to add a 3rd party repo
[07:13] <tumbleweed> personally, I use nouveau, though
[07:13] <superfly> I've used nouveau and found it unstable
[07:14] <Kilos> is it not hard to setup etc.. i dont use fancy stuff. mainly the basics
[07:15] <Kilos> muon makes it easy
[07:17] <Kilos> tumbleweed, you talking about 13.04 kubuntu being faster?
[07:18] <tumbleweed> Kilos: no
[07:19] <Kilos> oh all kde in ubuntu then?
[07:21] <tumbleweed> I'm saying that Ubuntu manages to get the latest KDE into Ubuntu quite quickly. In Debian, these things can take some time
[07:24] <Kilos> ah ty
[07:30] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[07:31] <Kilos> we missed you at the meeting last night maiatoday 
[07:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peeps
[07:49] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:10] <superfly> aloha ThatGraemeGuy
[08:10]  * ThatGraemeGuy waves
[08:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> working from home today
[08:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> flies are driving me MENTAL
[08:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> but still better than being at the office
[08:15] <Vince-0> haai
[08:21] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[08:34] <superfly> hi Vince-0
[08:34] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: but I thought that there was no official work from home policy?
[08:34] <Vince-0> work work wub wub
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> you know how it works here, "official" is very loosely defined
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> plus given the choice between me taking the day off and working from home, they chose the latter
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> there's a possibility that work from home might be an official option once we move, holding thumbs on that
[08:42] <superfly> you're moving?
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> black river business park in Obs
[08:43] <superfly> ah, nice
[08:43] <superfly> back to obs
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> nice for some, less nice for others
[08:43] <superfly> are DE moving with you guys?
[08:43] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: true, more of a pain for you
[08:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope, they're moving elsewhere in century city
[08:44] <superfly> ah, OK
[09:07] <inetpro> good evening
[09:08] <Kilos> lo inetpro 
[10:37] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[10:37] <Kilos> drubin_, hoe gaan dit met jou?
[10:52] <inetpro> Uh-oh!
[10:53] <inetpro> Pretoria zoo's two-metre black mamba has escaped from its enclosure, and staff have been unable to find it
[10:53] <Kilos> uh oh thats a nasty snake
[10:54] <Kilos> very deadly
[10:54] <Kilos> deadley
[10:54] <Kilos> ai!
[10:54] <Kilos> Maaz, spel deadly
[10:54] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[10:54] <Kilos> Maaz, spell deadly
[10:54] <Maaz> Kilos: Yup, that's a word all right
[10:55] <Kilos> and that size can travel the spead of a horse
[10:55] <Kilos> speed
[10:56] <inetpro> eish!
[10:56] <inetpro> but they say: "There was no need for hysteria, he said, as the black mamba was in all likelihood preparing for hibernation, and was in a constricted area, with little chance of it reaching any member of the public."
[10:56] <inetpro> “It would have to get through three doors before coming into contact with the public.”
[10:57] <inetpro> http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/gauteng/pretoria-zoo-s-black-mamba-missing-1.1488592
[10:57] <Kilos> ah
[10:58] <Kilos> theres lots there near mage
[11:00] <Kilos> get between one of them and their nest and they go through you not around
[11:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> snaaaake! snaaaaaaake! oooohhhh it's a snaaake!
[11:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> badgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadger mushroom! mushroom!
[11:54] <Kilos> lol
[12:56]  * Kilos wonders where jurgy is today
[12:56] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[12:57] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[12:57] <Kilos> school out for the day?
[12:58] <theblazehen> yea. ends at 2
[12:58] <Kilos> lekker enjoy it while you can
[12:58] <theblazehen> I will :)
[12:58] <Kilos> at 2 other peeps still got 3 hours to go
[12:58] <theblazehen> yea
[13:00] <Kilos> are you gonna study computer science after school
[13:00] <theblazehen> Think so.
[13:00] <Kilos> good thats where the brains and money are
[13:00] <theblazehen> Yea :)
[15:02] <TaraLS> hiya all.
[15:02] <TaraLS> nuvolari:  :) 
[16:07] <Kilos> hi simeon 
[16:07] <tumbleweed> lol https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1157263
[16:09] <Kilos> is that a joke or does unity really do that?
[16:09] <tumbleweed> that'll be current unity
[16:10] <Kilos> eeek
[16:10] <Kilos> they will sort that quickly
[16:11] <Kilos> hi eyesonlyhack 
[16:12] <eyesonlyhack> ello
[16:12] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[16:24] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[16:24] <Cantide> hey Kilos :)
[16:34] <Kilos> eyesonlyhack: do you need help or you just visiting
[16:34] <Kilos> tell us about yourself
[16:41] <Kilos> wb nuvolari 
[16:58] <Kilos> hmm... chatty chap
[16:58] <Squirm> lo
[16:59] <Kilos> lo Squirm 
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:06] <Squirm> worst season finale ever
[17:16] <Kilos> what?
[17:39] <magedroid> Evening all
[17:39] <Cantide> hey magedroid 
[17:40] <magedroid> O/
[17:41] <magedroid> does anyone know who is charge of the ubuntu-za facebooonpage?
[17:41]  * Cantide doesn't
[17:41] <magedroid> Facebook page rather
[17:42] <superfly> uh, let me see...
[17:44] <magedroid> I am stuck on gprs and no quassel tonight , electricity has been off from 05:30
[17:45] <superfly> magedroid: I don't see a Facebook page, but I do see a group, which I am an admin of
[17:45] <magedroid> Ohh okay thats cool then
[17:47] <superfly> magedroid: need something?
[17:47] <magedroid> I was thinking that the invooved page of ubuntu-za also needs some work, thats where i saw the facebook link
[17:48] <magedroid> Involved 
[17:48] <superfly> ah
[17:49] <Kilos> hi magedroid 
[17:49] <magedroid> Hey Kilos no quassel i feel a bit cut off
[17:50] <Kilos> aw  thats no good magedroid 
[17:50] <Kilos> the power business really sucks
[17:51] <Kilos> we off next tuesday all day again'
[17:51] <magedroid> Planned?
[17:53] <magedroid> superfly did you run something like ubuntu one for the n900?
[17:53] <superfly> nope
[17:54] <Kilos> yeah they notified us
[17:56] <Kilos> they are actually very efficient. they cut power then go to where they are making a new connection and start planting poles and stringing wires then trench through the road then get to main line and connect and then restore power
[17:56] <Kilos> fools
[17:58] <magedroid> Yup supposed to be doing something similar here today
[18:03] <Kilos> one would think they would first do all the work on the new line up to main line then cut power and connect
[18:04] <magedroid> yup but such is not the way
[18:09] <inetpro> good evening
[18:09] <magedroid> superfly did you ever try a debian package on your n900?
[18:11] <magedroid> Hi inetpro
[18:14] <Kilos> lo inetpro im really starting to enjoy kde
[18:14] <Kilos> even played hangman
[18:14] <inetpro> eventually he's seeing the light
[18:14] <inetpro> \o/
[18:15] <Kilos> there is so much to it
[18:15] <Kilos> how they fit it all on the cd i dunno
[18:16] <Kilos> im sorry i didnt make a kde 12.04.2 cd instead of unity now
[18:16] <inetpro> nuvolari: you really desperate to change that logo? :-)
[18:17] <Kilos> inetpro: and you need to update the topic bar hey
[18:17] <magedroid> kde guys are you using kubuntu?
[18:17] <Kilos> yeah
[18:17] <inetpro> magedroid: yes sir
[18:18] <Kilos> i have kubuntu on 2 drives lubuntu+mate on one and maverick on 2
[18:18] <magedroid> Is there a difference between kubuntu and 'pure' kde?
[18:18] <Kilos> all working
[18:18] <Kilos> w000t
[18:18] <magedroid> Thats cool Kilos
[18:19] <Kilos> but now you have to help unity peeps
[18:19] <Kilos> what i dont see dont exist
[18:20] <magedroid> I help from google, not what i am using, do not really know/remember that much 
[18:23] <Kilos> google gives me info that crashes my pc
[18:23] <magedroid> The reason why i ask the kde question is i have an old laptop the run 10.04 okay but think kubuntu would be too much for it
[18:23] <Kilos> then the fly fights with me
[18:23] <Kilos> how old magedroid ?
[18:23] <Kilos> specs wise
[18:24] <magedroid> So was thinking of doing a server install and trying the various desktops out
[18:24] <magedroid> Not too sure specs but at least 4 years and probable closer to 6 
[18:24] <magedroid> Let me check quickly
[18:25] <Kilos> how without power?
[18:26] <magedroid> Has battery 
[18:26] <Kilos> oh lappy?
[18:26] <magedroid> It is a compaq nx6110
[18:27] <magedroid> Yup
[18:28] <magedroid> Intel celeron m 1500 Mhz 1536 MB ram
[18:28] <Kilos> if you got 2g cpu and 2g ram it will work
[18:28] <Kilos> maybe even with those specs
[18:28] <Kilos> just be a bit slow to boot
[18:29] <Kilos> i will try one drive on old p4 morrow and let you know
[18:29] <Kilos> 1.7g cpu and 640m ram
[18:29] <Kilos> runs maverick lekker
[18:30] <magedroid> 10.04 is lucid lynx i think
[18:30] <Kilos> yes
[18:31] <Kilos> was also good but needed work to get 3g going
[18:31] <Kilos> no usb-modeswitch installed as default
[18:32] <magedroid> Never use a 3g modem never even had a look
[18:32]  * inetpro used the wiki for the agenda of our next meeting while the LoCo Team Portal is broken - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20130415
[18:33] <Kilos> who broke it?
[18:33] <Kilos> not me
[18:34]  * Kilos pleads innocence
[18:34] <Kilos> magedroid: when youve installed kde try konversation
[18:34] <Kilos> very lekker
[18:34] <Kilos> but no core for fones like quassel
[18:35] <Kilos> but it can bloep
[18:35] <magedroid> Will check it out
[18:35] <Kilos> heaps of config stuff
[18:35] <magedroid> Indeed
[18:36] <Kilos> hey inetpro that command you gave to check cpu showed a single core here
[18:37] <Kilos> but the net says the intel R 3gig is 2 cores
[18:37] <inetpro> Kilos: uh-oh, what command?
[18:37] <Kilos> whew was a month or so back
[18:38] <Kilos> cpu info
[18:38] <superfly> magedroid: "try a debian package"?
[18:39] <magedroid> superfly i found testdisk and photorec for the n900, and that made me think, could you install .deb onnthe n900?
[18:39] <nuvolari> o/ g'evening
[18:39] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[18:39] <superfly> magedroid: not quite
[18:39] <superfly> magedroid: they have to be compiled for the N900's ARM processor
[18:40] <nuvolari> is it possible to change the visibility of a google+ post later on?
[18:40] <Kilos> ask Vince-0 thats his domain
[18:40] <magedroid> Ahh right,  would that be the main probablem?
[18:40] <magedroid> o/ nuvolari
[18:41] <inetpro> nuvolari: no and yes
[18:41] <inetpro> nuvolari: no but you can copy and paste into a new share
[18:41] <nuvolari> the uncertainty principle
[18:41] <nuvolari> :P
[18:41] <inetpro> :-)
[18:41] <magedroid> nuvolari i heard that was a bit like the wild west in ballito tonight?
[18:42] <Kilos> no man van der merwes speak like that
[18:42] <Kilos> ja/nee
[18:42] <inetpro> nuvolari: that is why I suggested a google docs document
[18:42] <nuvolari> magedroid: eh? not that I know of
[18:42] <nuvolari> I heard on the radio last night
[18:42] <magedroid> Schrodingers cat
[18:42] <magedroid> Taxi stuff apparently nuvolari
[18:43] <inetpro> no Schrödinger's cat
[18:43] <magedroid> Indeed 
[18:43] <Vince-0> nuvolari, I think you can change the perms on a post
[18:43] <magedroid> Was not sure 
[18:44] <Vince-0> actually doesn't look like it from edit
[18:44] <nuvolari> magedroid: good thing I'm not *in* ballito during the day, but I saw the caspers and some police vans patrolling
[18:44] <inetpro> Vince-0: no, you can't
[18:45] <nuvolari> trying to create gdrive drawing from the svg just now
[18:47] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[18:47] <nuvolari> ugh, my net is bad
[18:47] <nuvolari> or it's just all google traffic that seems off
[18:47] <nuvolari> off as in bad
[18:47] <magedroid> Brb
[18:48] <nuvolari> Sorry, we are unable to generate a view of the document at this time. Please try again later.
[18:48] <nuvolari> :'(
[18:48] <Kilos> ai!
[18:55] <nuvolari> ok, I'm kind of discusted with googledocs tonight
[18:55] <nuvolari> I never had this issues before
[18:55] <magedroid> hey still cannot connect to the shop dns update not working right
[18:56] <magedroid> power is back in hluhluwe
[18:58] <inetpro> hmm... 
[18:58] <inetpro> looks like the LoCo Team Portal was updated today
[18:58] <nuvolari> svg fails, odg fails, raw svg fails, eps fails
[18:59] <nuvolari> eps works, but it's empty
[18:59] <magespawn> right now this is better
[18:59] <magespawn> nuvolari: png?
[18:59] <nuvolari> magespawn: can't really modify png :P
[19:00] <nuvolari> wanted to have something so people can modify the vectors
[19:00] <magespawn> are you using inkscape?
[19:00] <nuvolari> magespawn: yeah, tried to import a file to google drive
[19:01] <inetpro> eish! After posting the 2nd agenda Item I get Internal Server Error... so frustrating to use that system!!
[19:02] <Kilos> inetpro: fix it
[19:02] <inetpro> Kilos: me fix it? How?
[19:03] <Kilos> i dunno, in reverse of how you broke it
[19:03] <magespawn> nuvolari: you can't use gimp to save it? literally open and then save
[19:03] <Kilos> run fsck -f
[19:04] <Kilos> who maintains it?
[19:04] <nuvolari> magespawn: eh?
[19:04] <magespawn> seem to remmeber there was something that inkscape did to svg files that google did not like
[19:04] <nuvolari> ah
[19:04] <nuvolari> I'll try
[19:05] <Kilos> whats a svg file?
[19:05] <magespawn> was a will back, and did not take note off it, was when i trying to add graphics to my google apps site
[19:05] <magespawn> scaler vector graphics
[19:05] <magespawn> s/will/while
[19:06] <Kilos> isnt there a converter to some thing google will accept
[19:07] <Kilos> what type of file does google wanna see
[19:07] <magespawn> who knows?
[19:08] <Kilos> nuvolari: what kind of file is google happy with
[19:09] <nuvolari> google hates me
[19:09] <magespawn> lol
[19:09] <nuvolari> I should just go apple and get lost
[19:11] <magespawn> ha from the most open to the most closed
[19:11] <nuvolari> Kilos: after tonight and what they're doing with Reader, I'm pretty sure that steve jobs turned around in his grave and is molesting google's servers
[19:11] <Kilos> wb eyesonlyhack 
[19:11] <Kilos> hehe
[19:12] <nuvolari> drive is just not working!!!!
[19:12] <nuvolari> oh @#$^$%^#$%^#$%^#$%^#$%^#$%^#$%^!
[19:12] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:12] <nuvolari> *rage*
[19:12] <magespawn> shame nuvolari
[19:13] <nuvolari> that was me having a tantrum
[19:13] <magespawn> lol
[19:14] <magespawn> i am of to bed, good night all
[19:14] <Kilos> night magespawn sleep tight
[19:14] <nuvolari> 32 defunct chromium-browser processes...
[19:15] <inetpro> Kilos: ^^
[19:15] <Kilos> well done inetpro ty
[19:15] <Kilos> is the logs the minutes of last meets
[19:15] <inetpro> I didn't post all the details as per usual 
[19:16] <nuvolari> load average: 17.47, 13.33, 7.15
[19:16] <nuvolari> :-/
[19:16] <nuvolari> I'm crashing
[19:17] <Kilos> you or the pc nuvolari 
[19:17] <inetpro> Kilos: I guess I should post the minutes of the previous meeting under "Meeting Minutes:"
[19:17] <Kilos> ya
[19:17] <nuvolari> Kilos: I think both of us at this pace
[19:17] <Kilos> im not far behind
[19:19] <inetpro> fixed...
[19:19] <nuvolari> ugh, .ps doesn't work (displays though)
[19:21] <Kilos> well done inetpro 
[19:21] <Kilos> night guys sleep tight
[19:21] <nuvolari> night oom Kilos 
[19:22] <inetpro> Kilos: goeie nag
[19:22] <inetpro> nuvolari: so maybe just use plain g+ 
[19:32] <nuvolari> I don't know what happened to the internet. it's horribly broken
[19:33] <nuvolari> I'm sure I came across a collaborative vector drawing app some time ago
[19:33] <nuvolari> but now I can't find anything of use
[19:44] <Squirm> hi
[19:49] <Squirm> so I just got a friend invite on facebook
[19:49] <Squirm> Tresor Yodi
[19:49] <Squirm> Went to institut saint Eric
[19:49] <Squirm> Lives in Kinshasa
[19:49] <Squirm> Knows French, Lingala
[19:49] <Squirm> Male
[19:55] <Squirm> night people