[01:43] <len-dt> Lumpy, more mumbling to you in email...
[06:14] <micahg> zequence: -look uploaded
[11:22] <zequence> micahg: Thanks
[11:22] <zequence> That should hopefully mean we're done for this release
[12:56] <zequence> len-dt: The extra data in the patch was cause when I applyed the changes (which was by applying another patch), it worked, but not perfectly - so for safety it kept .orig files of all changed files
[12:56] <zequence> I just needed to remove the .orig files
[12:57] <zequence> Well, from the debian patch, that is
[18:27] <len-dt> upgrading doesn't work from a serial console. It wants a direct kb and monitor.
[18:27] <zequence> serial console?
[18:28] <len-dt> Ya, my server has an old ampex terminal. headless otherwise
[18:29] <len-dt> I upgraded from 12.04 -1 LTS to 12.04...
[18:29] <len-dt> Now I get to trouble shoot :P
[18:30] <len-dt> Upgrades don't like an SSH login either
[18:30] <len-dt> So I had to connect a monitor to do it. All back to serial again now though.
[18:32] <len-dt> imap has a problem with permissions though. It can play with messages in the user's home directory, but not the inbox.
[18:37] <zequence> hi ttoine 
[18:50] <ttoine> hi zequence 
[19:20] <len-dt> Odd, I had to reinstall the printer driver after upgrading.
[19:23] <len-dt> zequence, re Bug #1077372 in precise. Do we really want to try fixing this?
[19:23] <zequence> len-dt: What icon is it? I have forgotten about that
[19:24] <len-dt> It would mean creating a -icon-theme just for precise. Like adding a meta that is not there now.
[19:24] <len-dt> The current icon is the xubuntu one.
[19:24] <len-dt> (or maybe vanilla xfce)
[19:25] <len-dt> This is not fixed till 13.04
[19:26] <len-dt> zequence, this is an icon that the user will see exactly once, when they install.
[19:26] <zequence> I'm not too concerned about that, but I guess one could just SRU the current icon theme to precise, when fixing that
[19:27] <len-dt> And set it active in -settings
[19:27] <zequence> Maybe for 12.04.3, if it feels relevant?
[19:30] <len-dt> The only person who has said anything is smartboyhc and the only people who have commented have been on the dev team
[19:30] <len-dt> Personally I think it is a bit trivial.
[19:30] <zequence> I agree
[19:31] <len-dt> I would like to set it to "won't fix"
[19:31] <zequence> But, if we were to do any kind of significant change to the looks, we'll do that at the same time
[19:32] <len-dt> Well, if we want to change the icons and add the icon-theme. That would mean doing all the menu changes too.
[19:32] <zequence> I could imagine doing that for 12.04.3
[19:32] <len-dt> Do we want to do that? I guess the next LTS is a year away.
[19:33] <zequence> Yeah, it's getting a bit late
[19:33] <len-dt> Do we need to have a set of bug reports?
[19:33] <zequence> I don't think they will hurt anyway
[19:34] <len-dt> Would this be SRU? or some other term?
[19:34] <zequence> SRU, I believe. But I'm not sure how flexible they are with this
[19:35] <len-dt> I think What I need to do then is to redo the settings branch for precise from release. Then just add bug fixes one commit at a time.
[19:36] <len-dt> People who already have the LTS are used to what they have, changing the menu now could be confusing and seem broken if an app they use moves to a different sub menu.
[19:37] <len-dt> It might be like the app was gone to them not moved.
[19:37] <len-dt> Those who have already installed will not be seeing a change in partition icon.
[19:38] <zequence> Is the menu configs not put in user files, or is that just after you make an edit?
[19:38] <len-dt> It never ends up in user files.
[19:38] <zequence> Sure about that?
[19:39] <len-dt> Even if edited, there is just a diff added in the user dir
[19:39] <len-dt> I have played with it and looked at the files.
[19:39] <zequence> Well, I'm not going to push for it. I'm just happy if we can get the jackd bug fix in to begin with
[19:39] <zequence> It's getting close now
[19:39] <zequence> After it's done, I'll do pulseaudio too
[19:40] <zequence> And a couple more
[19:41] <len-dt> Those are more important.
[23:58] <zequence> timothymillar: Hi
[23:59] <timothymillar> quick question how do a direct a question at you with the zequence:
[23:59] <zequence> I didn't catch that properly
[23:59] <zequence> Have you been involved in helping out with anything distro-wise before?