[15:33] <knome> skellat, pleia2: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/+members#active
[15:49] <scottbomb> Neither gmusicbrowser nor parole are able to play music from either a local drive or samba share but VLC is able to play them fine. Trying to launch from Thunar.  I can't tell what the error is because nothing happens. 
[15:51] <scottbomb> Interestingly, Parole launches from the command line
[15:53] <pleia2> knome: great!
[15:59] <scottbomb> Now they work after a reboot however gmusicbrowser hangs when I ask it to play a song on a network share
[16:00] <pleia2> scottbomb: I think you want #xubuntu
[16:00] <pleia2> this is the dev channel, lots more people in the support channel :)
[16:01] <scottbomb> Ok. Just wondering if someone could tell me what package to file a bug report against as I thought this was the channel for that
[16:01] <scottbomb> I'll take it over there if this keeps up. Just testing the iso
[16:02] <pleia2> oh, sorry, you should have asked :)
[16:02] <pleia2> 13.04?
[16:02] <pleia2> and did you try launching it from terminal to see if it puts errors there?
[16:04] <scottbomb> Sorry, I wasn't clear on what I was doing. Yes, testing today's build. I'll look up to see how to access shares from the terminal and report any errors
[16:04] <pleia2> I mean, just open a terminal and type: gmusicbrowser
[16:04] <pleia2> then try to play music from samba or whatever isn't wrking
[16:04] <pleia2> see if it outputs any errors in the terminal
[16:05] <Unit193> knome: Great!
[19:41] <knome> pleia2, skellat: so  https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/  is now fixed
[19:41] <pleia2> \o/
[19:42] <knome> i'm not sure why the branch doesn't show skellat's branch merged
[19:43] <knome> let's see what the code says
[19:43] <knome> hmm, no
[19:43] <knome> WEIRD.
[19:45] <knome> doesn't show up in the quantal branch either
[19:47] <Unit193> I am really sorry if I didn't do that right, but merge requested.
[19:51] <knome> i will look at that when i sort this out.
[19:55] <Unit193> Sure, no hurry.
[20:08] <knome> Unit193, merged.
[20:08] <Unit193> Wonderful!  Hope it helps.
[20:08] <knome> definitely
[20:46]  * knome sits down after a busy day and listens to the new kashmir album
[20:47] <Unit193> Hmm....I should find that.
[20:47] <knome> you should *buy* that
[20:47] <knome> just fyi though, it's a bit different than the previous one (once again)
[20:49]  * skellat recommends the band "Moon Hooch" that he heard as the opening act for They Might Be Giants down at the Beachland Ballroom in Cleveland over the weekend
[20:50]  * knome notes
[20:50] <knome> skellat, your commit has now safely landed in /raring
[20:51] <skellat> Excellents
[20:51] <skellat> s/Excellents/Excellent
[20:51] <knome> that reminds me to approve you to the doc team as well.
[20:51] <Unit193> I should check for more problems...
[20:57] <skellat> Unit193: I'm already looking at reverting the offline updating text since you reintroduced Keryx which is kinda sorta abadonware now
[20:57] <Unit193> skellat: I didn't add that to the Xubuntu docs, though.  It's an interesting project, and I know someone involved, but it is a little dated.
[20:58] <Unit193> (Ah, I see, sorry about that.)
[20:58] <skellat> :-)
[20:58] <skellat> I'll deal with it in yet another merge proposal
[20:58] <skellat> Eventually
[20:58] <Unit193> Part of the other updating, should have built off your patch.
[20:58] <skellat> It happens
[20:58] <skellat> Remind me, what is our default file compression tool we install if we do?
[20:59] <knome> file-roller
[20:59] <skellat> Okay.  I was thinking squeeze for a moment but couldn't remember.
[21:01] <skellat> Copying files with File Browser (a.k.a. Thunar) to a dedicated space under backup tips is okay but using file-roller should also be mentioned as you can make archives...even though file-roller really isn't a backup program per se
[21:01] <knome> yeah
[21:01] <knome> now that we have space on the image we might consider a backup application
[21:02] <skellat> tar & xz-utils :-)
[21:02] <skellat> We mention DejaDup and LuckyBackup in the offline documentation
[21:03] <knome> i use a rsync-based backups myself, but that's not suitable for most
[21:04] <skellat> Well, we've got the two mentioned in the docs.  I suppose picking one or the other to add would be good if not using both.  Probably need to check if they're actually in repos, though.
[21:06] <knome> i believe they are
[21:06] <knome> and yes, picking one would be good
[21:07] <skellat> luckybackup has got the most straight-forward dependencies
[21:07] <skellat> deja-dup hits a three-ways suggests dependency depending upon back-end whether to AWS, Rackspace, or Ubuntu One
[21:09] <Unit193> http://pastebin.com/PHBNxuuy if I'm lazy, but I normally use the actual commands.
[21:51] <ochosi> knome: i agree on the backup solution
[21:51] <ochosi> and having one with some cloud-abilities would seem timely...
[22:00] <skellat> ochosi: Well, deja-dup has the cloud back-ends
[22:00] <ochosi> wanna write an app-comparison?
[22:00] <skellat> Not yet
[22:00] <knome> <3
[22:01] <skellat> Still gotta help with getting dinner set up
[22:01] <ochosi> sure no rush
[22:01] <knome> the question that usually gets negative answers
[22:01] <ochosi> will be too late for R anyway
[22:01] <knome> yeah
[22:02] <knome> well,
[22:02] <knome> documentation still isn't
[22:02]  * skellat notes on his way to the kitchen table that he did some stuff and filed a new merge
[22:03] <ochosi> :)
[22:04] <pleia2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/1089744
[22:04] <pleia2> this is actually quite unpleasant
[22:05] <pleia2> I had to pull in a pristine PPA for shotwell to hook it up with flickr again, and just gave up with gwibber
[22:05] <ochosi> why does this only happen in xubuntu?
[22:05] <pleia2> I believe lubuntu had (has?) this problem as well
[22:06] <knome> skellat, just checking if it's intentional that you didn't link the apt-offline page anywhere yet?
[22:06] <ochosi> pleia2: weird, we're using the same stuff (apt, usc) that ubuntu uses...
[22:06] <pleia2> I should probably check if this is still the case in 13.04 ;)
[22:07] <knome> that sounds like a packaging bug
[22:25] <skellat> knome: Hmm, thought I added it to the index and then in managing applications referred to it in managing-applications using an xref like the index page refers to other pages
[22:29] <knome> oh, right, you did
[22:29] <knome> my bad
[22:30] <knome> pleia2, if you are in any sharper condition than i am, can you review the new page/content quickly?
[22:30] <knome> other than that, it looks fine for me
[22:32] <knome> skellat, btw, in the future, it would make things faster if you pasted the merge request urls on the channel
[22:33] <pleia2> what am I looking at?
[22:33] <knome> ...for that exact reason! :D
[22:33] <knome> https://code.launchpad.net/~skellat/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/+merge/154212
[22:33] <knome> see the diff
[22:33] <knome> at the bottom we have this new page
[22:33] <pleia2> ty
[22:33] <knome> if that text seems to be fine for you, approve
[22:33] <knome> and i'll merge
[22:34] <Unit193> FWIW, I have a script to update it on my server every week. :P
[22:37] <pleia2> we don't like Keryx anymore? (sorry if this was discussed earlier)
[22:37] <Unit193> pleia2: Dated, last commit '10 and not in repos, IIRC.
[22:37] <pleia2> I've never heard of it
[22:37] <knome> pleia2, wasn't, but it seems to be dead
[22:37] <pleia2> ah good
[22:37] <Unit193> Sad. :P
[22:38] <knome> Unit193, some motivation for your friend working on it; if they release more often and it's get back to the ubuntu repositories, we'll reinclude it in our documentation!
[22:40] <pleia2> I didn't do technical review, but the words seemed fine, thanks skellat!
[22:41] <Unit193> knome: Friend kind of works on it, friends friend is the driver. :P
[22:41] <Unit193> knome: Copied your message. ;)
[22:41] <knome> good
[22:42] <knome> pleia2, skellat: merged and pushed. thanks
[22:43] <pleia2> gold stars all around!
[22:44] <knome> Unit193, if you wish, i can add you to ~xubuntu-doc
[22:44] <knome> Unit193, that gives you nothing except an icon in LP though, and some bragging rights
[22:44] <Unit193> knome: I don't think I do enough, and I think it'd be a good idea (at least for now!) to review whatever I commit, but thanks.
[22:45] <knome> i will need to review it anyway.
[22:45] <knome> that team has no superpowers
[22:45] <Unit193> Well, if you think I contribute enough, go for it.
[22:45] <knome> only today i was given the magic super powers for ~ubuntu-core-doc
[22:46] <ochosi> knome == supercow
[22:46] <knome> our strategy document says »» Commit meaningful contributions to one of the subteams; you will be approved to the subteam for "probation" by a subteam administrator
[22:47] <knome> and you're part of -team already, which is the goal in getting in for "probation"
[22:47] <knome> so... you're climbing butt first to the tree
[22:47] <knome> but that's fine.
[22:48] <knome> added.
[22:48] <knome> also, i'm trying to involve you more.
[22:48] <knome> :)
[22:49] <ochosi> +1
[22:49] <knome> that's the unwritten part... :)
[22:49] <Unit193> Dowh.....
[23:03] <knome> skellat, when your conscience says it's ok to do it, please add yourself to the credits page :)
[23:23] <knome> micahg, would you have some time for UI-related uploads before the UIF?
[23:24] <micahg> mmaybe
[23:24] <micahg> depends what
[23:24] <knome> could you cooperate with ochosi? we have all the FFe's ready (where needed)
[23:24] <micahg> I can try
[23:24] <knome> ochosi, ping
[23:25] <ochosi> micahg: hi! basically xubuntu-artwork needs a bump
[23:25] <ochosi> i can push to trunk, but it needs an upload
[23:25] <micahg> everything committed?
[23:25] <micahg> ok, please push and I'll take a look later
[23:25] <ochosi> not yet, when would be a good time for you to upload?
[23:25] <knome> micahg, thanks :)
[23:27] <ochosi> micahg: btw, just out of curiosity: gtk-theme-config will be uploaded by you or do i need to bug someone from the release team?
[23:27] <micahg> I can take a look at that later as well
[23:28] <knome> was the freeze 12 UTC tomorrow
[23:28] <knome> or do i always remember that time wrong
[23:28] <micahg> thursday :)
[23:28] <knome> oh!
[23:28] <knome> oh!
[23:28] <micahg> 2100
[23:28]  * knome was living wednesday today
[23:28] <knome> phew
[23:50] <ochosi> micahg: still around?
[23:51] <micahg> yeah
[23:51] <ochosi> so, the package that needs an update most is shimmer-themes
[23:52] <ochosi> i've just added new tags to all our gtk-themes on github
[23:52] <ochosi> but i can put together a shortlist for you, so it's easier to keep an overview
[23:52] <micahg> hrm , I can only update that if there are instructions in the apckage
[23:53] <ochosi> i think all you have to do is download a tarball of each theme and throw the unpacked themes in the package