[00:27] <pedor> hi, I'm thinking to move to xubuntu and I have some questions: is it possible to install nvidia drivers?
[00:27] <David-A> pedor: yes
[00:28] <David-A> pedor: the normal way to install proprietary drivers, if you don't want the open source drivers, is to use the "additional drivers" tool.
[00:29] <pedor> David-A: so, it's the same as others *buntus. and qt applications?
[00:30] <David-A> pedor: exactly the same. the difference is what desktop is initially installed (xfce) and some of the default programs.
[00:30] <jpmh> how do I change the image that shows while the system is on its way up
[00:31] <knobydobs> Hello, I have a perixx gaming mouse which is basically 2 HID keyboards and an HID raw input, unfortunately, none of these inputs are recognized by going to the device file in /Dev/inputs and using sudo cat. I have already edited HID.d in an attempt to let the mouse be recognized but to no avail
[00:31] <pedor> David-A: just looking to xfce roadmap, they skipped 4.11?
[00:32] <pedor> David-A: is there a irc installed by default? if it doesn't what is the best option?
[01:15] <knobydobs> Hello, I have a perixx gaming mouse which is basically 2 HID keyboards and an HID raw input, unfortunately, none of these inputs are recognized by going to the device file in /Dev/inputs and using sudo cat. I have already edited HID.d in an attempt to let the mouse be recognized but to no avail
[01:32] <Psil0cybin> ha ha ha
[01:32] <Psil0cybin> i said i loved xubuntu
[01:32] <Psil0cybin> in #kubuntu
[01:32] <Psil0cybin> oopsie
[01:33] <knobydobs> Hehe - what do you think of this? I have a perixx gaming mouse which is basically 2 HID keyboards and an HID raw input, unfortunately, none of these inputs are recognized by going to the device file in /Dev/inputs and using sudo cat. I have already edited HID.d in an attempt to let the mouse be recognized but to no avail.
[01:35] <Psil0cybin> best joke ever just saw it on the forums as someones signature husband@wife$ make me a sandwich, ACCESS DENIED, husband@wife$ sudo make me a sandwich
[01:36] <Cheri703> *cough* sexist jokes aren't actually funny *cough*
[01:36] <pleia2> +1
[01:36] <Psil0cybin> oh :(
[01:36] <Psil0cybin> sowwies
[01:38] <pleia2> Psil0cybin: also, if you're interested in chatting you might want to join #xubuntu-offtopic instead (this is the support channel) ..sexist jokes aren't appreciated there either though ;)
[01:38] <Psil0cybin> hahaha sorry one time thing :) but thanks didnt know appreciate it :) sorry for being a nuisance
[01:39] <pleia2> thanks
[01:39] <Psil0cybin> no problem :)
[02:11] <knobydobs> Hehe - what do you think of this? I have a perixx gaming mouse which is basically 2 HID keyboards and an HID raw input, unfortunately, none of these inputs are recognized by going to the device file in /Dev/inputs and using sudo cat. I have already edited HID.d in an attempt to let the mouse be recognized but to no avail.
[02:13] <Cheri703> knobydobs: what is the relevant result of "xinput list"
[02:13] <Cheri703> ?
[02:14] <knobydobs> I'll take a look ^_^
[02:15] <Cheri703> disclaimer: I'm coming at this as someone who had to do a fair bit of work to get mouse working, so I'm not familiar with your mouse, but I'll help as much as I can. I have no experience on the topic beyond my own journey to get mine working :)
[02:16] <Cheri703> (also: evoluent vertical mouse is awesome, if labor intensive to set up)
[02:16] <knobydobs> Any help is appreciated ^_^
[02:17] <knobydobs> Evoluent?
[02:17] <Cheri703> http://www.evoluent.com/
[02:18] <Cheri703> awww, they have a bluetooth one now. I wanted a bt mouse when I was ordering. probably good that I didn't get it though, because I have issues getting more than one bt device to connect at a time. probably my adapter though
[02:19] <Cheri703> the bt is new :) though the regular one does work with mac, probably just not as fancy mapping though.
[02:23] <knobydobs> In that list, I have HID 04f3:0103
[02:23] <knobydobs> Which is the mouse
[02:23] <Cheri703> ok, when you mentioned that it is actually multiple devices, is that saying it SHOULD be recognized as multiple or it behaves like multiple?
[02:24] <knobydobs> Behaves like multiple
[02:24] <Cheri703> ok, so the next step
[02:24] <knobydobs> Uhuh
[02:24] <Cheri703> did it give a name or just HID whatever?
[02:25] <knobydobs> Just that and a list of slaves
[02:25] <Cheri703> hmm...ok
[02:26] <knobydobs> In that list of slaves is the Holtek USB Gaming Mouse
[02:26] <Cheri703> so the method I used asks for the name, because mine identified as "Evoluent VerticalMouse 4"
[02:26] <Cheri703> perfect
[02:26] <Cheri703> ok
[02:26] <Cheri703> so try this: xinput query-state "Holtek USB Gaming Mouse"
[02:26] <Cheri703> it will tell you what buttons are being pressed down
[02:26] <Cheri703> like a number
[02:27] <Cheri703> so if 1 is left click, if you hold left click and run that command, it should return 1
[02:27] <Cheri703> and you can map it
[02:28] <Cheri703> write it down as you map it
[02:28] <Cheri703> (if that works)
[02:28] <knobydobs> Ok ^^
[02:30] <knobydobs> No changes - I get a list of 247 keys all saying up, no matter what button I click...
[02:30] <Cheri703> are you holding it down when you run the command?
[02:30] <Cheri703> like hold left button and then press enter
[02:31] <Cheri703> you will have to do this with EVERY BUTTON
[02:31] <Cheri703> if you want to map it
[02:32] <Cheri703> might check if mapping exists somewhere online?
[02:33] <Cheri703> (also 247 keys ?!?!)
[02:33] <knobydobs>  It's only an 11 button mouse
[02:33] <Cheri703> ah, multiple combinations then?
[02:34] <Cheri703> like 1&3 = 37
[02:34] <knobydobs> And I'm doing exactly what you said and no results :(
[02:35] <Cheri703> so when I run the command (because I'm testing this at the same time) I press and hold the left mouse button, hit enter, then release it and it shows "1=down" if I do the right button and do the same thing, it'll show 2=down
[02:35] <Cheri703> it isn't doing that for yours?
[02:35] <Cheri703> do you have another mouse plugged in? could it be reading the wrong one?
[02:38] <knobydobs> It's not reading the wrong one, I definitely have the right mouse, there's just no input being recognized at all...
[02:38] <Cheri703> if you click on things it works?
[02:41] <knobydobs> No, I can't even move the cursor
[02:43] <Cheri703> ahhh, ok
[02:43] <Cheri703> uhm...I have no idea >_<
[02:43] <Cheri703> have you tried rebooting with it plugged in and see if it moves or anything?
[02:47] <knobydobs> Uhuh - nothing - I'm adding sharkoon support now to see if that helps ^^
[02:47] <Cheri703> I have no idea what that is, but...good luck?
[02:48] <Cheri703> is it wireless or wired?
[02:48] <knobydobs> A recompiled kernel to add support for some gaming mice
[02:48] <knobydobs> Wired
[02:49] <Cheri703> one person (different mouse) said that it was behaving similarly and if they suspend and unsuspend, then it works O_o
[02:50] <knobydobs> I'll give that a go in a second ^^
[02:54] <knobydobs> Now I gotta compile a kernel on 3 cores :/
[04:14] <n-iCe> hi
[10:12] <foobar55> hi all
[10:13] <foobar55> sombody know where i can change the mcommander colors
[10:21] <foobar55> # /config/mc/ ini  - colors ?   input skins     /usr/share/mc/skins  ???
[10:29] <bullgard4> foobar55: Please read 'man mc': "Section »Colors«: ".
[11:14] <Aknot> Im using voyager linux. It has over hundred system wallpapers. Which directory can i find them?
[12:07] <paickda> for some reason, the updates (using software updater) want to be put into /boot, and as a result it can't grab the files due to not enough space being free in /boot .. . i can't see where to choose a new place to save the files for the update?
[14:35] <xubuntu181> Hi
[14:35] <xubuntu181> How are you all?
[14:35] <xubuntu181> I am trying to install Xubuntu LTSP Quantal Alternate
[14:36] <xubuntu181> and facing firmware issue
[14:36] <xubuntu181> iwlwifi-6000g2a-6.ucode
[14:36] <xubuntu181> I have downloaded the same and provided through USB in FAT format
[14:37] <xubuntu181> Can some one help why I could not pass this hard stop error
[14:37] <holstein> xubuntu181: i usually try the live iso's and see what issues im going to have hardware-wise.. i would just install the OS and see if there is support for your device
[14:37] <holstein> !wifi
[14:40] <xubuntu181> If I bypass this firmware issue, I could not install xubunutu successfully
[14:41] <xubuntu181> I am getting the error at "Select and Install Software"
[14:41] <holstein> xubuntu181: that sounds like a bad iso
[14:41] <holstein> !md5
[14:42] <holstein> xubuntu181: what would i do? load up a live CD and try and find support for my hardware before installing (if possible.. its not always possible from the live CD)
[14:43] <holstein> i would run "lspci" and search "ubuntu hardware ID" and see if there are bugs or known issues, or just a lack of support from the vendor
[14:45] <holstein> xubuntu181: i need to run, but i dont think you have issues that are relating to one another
[14:45] <holstein> xubuntu181: you should be able to bypass the wifi firmware during the install.. i would check the integrity of the download and disc and go from there.. maybe make a live CD so you can see it boot
[14:49] <gearaholic> would xubuntu be a good os for a grandparents pc (currently running winXP) I run ubuntu on my linux pc, but his pc is kinda old 2008 and wasnt great to begin with
[14:49] <gearaholic> all he needs is a web browser
[14:53] <baizon> gearaholic: you can try xubuntu or lubuntu
[14:53] <baizon> then choose :)
[14:53] <xubuntu181> I have made a live cd
[14:53] <baizon> Lubuntu is more windows xp -like, xubuntu is more gnome3-like
[14:53] <baizon> xubuntu181: yes, and try both
[14:54] <gearaholic> ok, just donwloaded xubuntu will try out lubuntu
[14:54] <baizon> xubuntu181: ups sorry, didnt ment you
[14:54] <xubuntu181> But the install is still failing at firmware
[14:54] <gearaholic> 12.10 a safe bet?
[14:54] <gearaholic> of lts
[14:55] <gearaholic> or^
[14:55] <xubuntu181> I have tried both Qunatal Alternate as well as 12.04.2
[14:55] <xubuntu181> firmware problem still persists
[14:56] <xubuntu181> I am new to Linux
[14:56] <xubuntu181> Can you guide me how to get Xubuntu Loaded with LTSP
[15:00] <xubuntu181> Thanks for your inputs. I will join some time later. Thanks.
[15:12] <xubuntu333> Hi, I just upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to Xubuntu 12.10 this morning and chose "upgrade" during the installation, now my wireless network won't connect or even find any networks and all my old files have disappeared
[15:13] <xubuntu333> does anyone know how to remedy this?
[15:13] <TheSheep> recover them from your backup
[15:14] <xubuntu333> recover the network connect form my backup? it was working fine from the live usb but not since I've installed it
[15:17] <xubuntu333> thanks
[16:03] <baizon> hi, i have a problem... my network is breaking up after a while. How can i make a diagnosis?
[16:39] <Malsasa_> Hello, command apt-get -d -o=dir::cache=/tmp install appname yes do half of my aim. But I absolutely wanna it download only from my /var/cache/apt/archives. How to do that? Or, how the command? Thanks.
[16:41] <sayres> anybody know how can i change defualt desktop in slim?
[16:46] <sayres> anybody know how can i change defualt desktop in slim?
[16:47] <GridCube> !patience | sayres
[16:47] <GridCube> !info apt-offline | Malsasa_
[16:53] <Malsasa_> GridCube: thank you, but can you mention yes/no: is it can copy exactly complete 1 application from my cache? I have complete cache for (say) 8 application but all dependencies are mixed in one cache folder. Thank you.
[16:54] <GridCube> Malsasa_, no idea, sorry :(
[16:54] <Malsasa_> GridCube: thank you
[16:55] <GridCube> Malsasa_, what do you need to do?
[17:00] <Malsasa_> GridCube: I wanna help my friends in Indonesia. I wanna copy one application only that I have downloaded from internet into my computer. In Indonesia, internet is very expensive so downloading is a problem.
[17:00] <Malsasa_> GridCube: thank you so much for attentions.
[17:01] <xubuntu234> TheSheep, I was the one earlier who couldn't get an internet connection. I reinstalled and it's working great now
[17:01] <Malsasa_> GridCube: end of aim, enough with sudo apkg -i *.deb in my friends computers.
[17:01] <Malsasa_> *dpkg
[17:02] <GridCube> !apt-offline
[17:02] <GridCube> mmm
[17:02] <GridCube> no
[17:03] <GridCube> !offline
[17:03] <GridCube> Malsasa_, ^ see that
[17:03] <Malsasa_> GridCube: yes I know Synaptic script, I have used. But it is not answer my problem. I know also Keryx and Aptoncd.
[17:04] <Malsasa_> GridCube: thank you. But what I want, is using my cache, my downloaded one, move them into another computers, and sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[17:04] <GridCube> mmm sorry then, i don't know what else you can do, you could get all the debs from http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[17:04] <Malsasa_> :D
[17:05] <Malsasa_> GridCube: yes, I know that also. But that is not solve my problem. I have downloaded necessary packages. The problem, I dont know how to distinguish them between so many deb in cache :)
[17:06] <Malsasa_> GridCube: thank you s much for helping me. Your effort is valuable.
[17:07] <GridCube> Malsasa_, that cache folder you talk about, has .debs that are not for the apps you need?
[17:07] <GridCube> if so what happens if you do an apt-get autoclean and apt-get autoremove?
[17:07] <GridCube> wouldnt then the cache get cleaned and only the ones for your apps be there?
[17:08] <GridCube> (probably after you download them again)
[17:08] <Malsasa_> GridCube: my cache contains all deb applications i have installed, complete with dependencies. But I need to move only one application, not all.
[17:08] <GridCube> ah, ok
[17:08] <Malsasa_> GridCube: if i do autoclean/autoremove, all debs will gone.
[17:09] <Malsasa_> GridCube: it is interesting you can be so patient in helping newbie like me
[17:09] <Malsasa_> :)
[17:09] <GridCube> :D im a librarian, its what we do
[17:09] <Malsasa_> GridCube: librarian? Librarian in meaning you create software library?
[17:10] <GridCube> Malsasa_, what if you get a list of dependecies using apt-cache rdepends
[17:10] <GridCube> Malsasa_, no, a librarian like someone who helps people to find the information they need regardless of the medium used to store it :)
[17:11] <GridCube> like, in the era previous to the internet where mostly books :P
[17:11] <Malsasa_> GridCube: thank you, but I have used that. It cannot do dependency tarcking in cacahe, in other words, it cannot make list if a the app is installed on system. So, I stop using that :)
[17:11] <Malsasa_> GridCube: oh, librarian like that? Okay.
[17:11] <GridCube> :)
[17:11] <Malsasa_> :)
[17:11] <GridCube> Malsasa_, but you just need the depends of your 8 apps?
[17:11] <Malsasa_> *tracking i mean
[17:12] <Malsasa_> GridCube: yes, yes. You are right.
[17:12] <Malsasa_> GridCube: 8 is only an example. The most important thing is: how to track 1 only application dependencies completely from cache. Thats it :)
[17:13] <GridCube> well, maybe apt-cache showpkg
[17:15] <Malsasa_> GridCube: yup, showpkg i have try. But it shows me crowded information. Not a list.
[17:15] <Malsasa_> GridCube: ah, this is my complete question:      http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2123602
[17:16] <GridCube> it is a lit
[17:16] <GridCube> list
[17:17] <Malsasa_> GridCube: yes, horizontal. But I wanna list tidily in point per point.
[17:17] <GridCube> brake it
[17:17] <GridCube> Malsasa_, use some find magic
[17:18] <Malsasa_> GridCube: if can, i wanna simply command to download from my cache. Just download from my cache into another folder :) So, i can use usb stick into another computers :)
[17:18] <Malsasa_> GridCube: if you can help me in this, you can help so many users in Indonesia :) But thank you so much until this ;)
[17:21] <GridCube> Malsasa_, if apt-cache showpkg shows you the deps, and it can be used to search for a file, say it says it depends on libpng12, you search for libpng12 and copy that deb
[17:21] <GridCube> if there is no deb, then no copy is needed
[17:21] <Malsasa_> GridCube: yes, absolutely. I think also like that.
[17:21] <GridCube> its not so complex then
[17:21] <GridCube> i dont know the find magic, but its not that complex
[17:22] <GridCube> if you can make a list of dependencies then you can do the find string
[17:22] <GridCube> please ask on #bash, they really know how to use it
[17:22] <Malsasa_> GridCube: but apt is advanced. Is there a command way to just simply apt to copy? It should apt that do copying, not manually by me. But it is not possible, nah, it is my time to check and copy one by one :)
[17:23] <Malsasa_> GridCube: yup, you are right in scripting :) I think also like that :D
[17:23] <Malsasa_> GridCube: okay, I will go there.
[17:24] <Malsasa_> GridCube: but in conclusion, apt cannot simply download from my local cache into my specified folder?
[17:24] <GridCube> i don't know about that, you might need to use a tool like apt-offline for that
[17:25] <GridCube> something that takes all the debs and place them in one simple place
[17:26] <Malsasa_> GridCube: apt-offline is still need internet, right? I really avoid that for saving my money :) But thank you.
[17:27] <GridCube> Malsasa_, well, i would think that it uses internet to download the files first, but once you have the packages it shouldnt need it anymore
[17:28] <Malsasa_> GridCube: yes, same like what i thought.
[17:28] <Malsasa_> GridCube: it is advanced, truly.
[17:29] <GridCube> :) its what you needed to use in the first place :P
[17:29] <Malsasa_> GridCube: but if i have download all, apt should can do simple copying for me from cache. Okay, thank you.
[17:31] <GridCube> Malsasa_, i wouldnt know that
[17:34] <freedomrun> is there a way to display pdf files as icons instead of previewing them in Thunar?
[17:42] <baizon> freedomrun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1082105
[17:43] <freedomrun> baizon, thnx but that couzed alot of bugreporting
[17:44] <baizon> freedomrun: how come?
[17:45] <freedomrun> not shure baizon .. looks like thumbnailer wanted to access /usr/bin/evince-thumbnailer and didn`t had permissions to do so
[18:23] <PhoenixSTF> hey guys, sorry to come in like this, my xubuntu 12.10 with xfce4.12 dont show the desktop and I have a process gvfsd-trash killing my processor
[18:24] <holstein> PhoenixSTF: this is something that broke, i assume? i would try as another user, and test this way to see if it is my config
[18:25] <PhoenixSTF> ??? wierd thing is I didn't change a thing except upgrade!
[18:26] <holstein> PhoenixSTF: upgrade what?
[18:26] <PhoenixSTF> another box I have with xubuntu with the same stuff is ok
[18:26] <PhoenixSTF> apt-get upgrade
[18:26] <PhoenixSTF> my configs are the same for months now
[18:26] <holstein> PhoenixSTF: what im suggesting is.. make another user.. log in as new user.. test.. if the issue is gone, then the issue is in your config
[18:28] <PhoenixSTF> ok thanks
[18:58] <talis62> After a recent update about 2 weeks ago my system would no longer bootup. I am doing a restore install right now. Has anyone else experienced this?
[18:58] <talis62> If so any pointers to get around it if it happens again?
[19:02] <holstein> talis62: id say, its too late now for testing/diagnostics.. i usually test older kernels, and try and see if an upgrade broke something.. i test as a different user
[19:03] <talis62> holstein: Thanks for the response I appreciate it. I will try that next time once I get this system back up and running.
[19:06] <talis62> Well I will know in a minute once this install has restored my previously installed packages if this is going to work or not. If not I guess I have to start from scratch a little bit wiser than before. Thank goodness I store my files on a NAS or I would be crying like a baby LMAO!!
[19:07] <talis62> Thanks again!
[21:14] <Aknot> How do i turn off the Quit and join natifications on xchat?
[21:14] <Unit193> !quietxchat
[21:16] <Aknot> oh damn i didnt see that option, thanks ubottu
[21:16] <Unit193> Aknot: Sure thing!
[21:18] <Aknot> Anyone have knowledge of Radio Tray? Im using Voyager linux and it has radio tray installed by default. It has lot of radio channels by default also. When i click preferences it only shows 1 of the groups, so i cant delete the others like Rock/classical/latin etc groups
[21:19] <Aknot> and there is no irc channel for voyager linux so im asking here because its based on xubuntu
[21:19] <Unit193> You'd have to ask their support team, it's not supported here.
[21:19] <Unit193> #VoyagerOS is pretty dead, last I knew though.
[21:20] <Aknot> i know it was a long shot, but their site is in french
[21:20] <Aknot> oh i didnt know that channel
[21:20] <Aknot> lol 4 people in it
[23:01] <n-iCe> hello
[23:01] <ochosi> !hi
[23:01] <n-iCe> any way to reset the bar?
[23:01] <Aknot> When i use my keyboards volume down and up keys, it changes the juniper hdmi volume which doesnt change anything. How can i make it to change the built in audio volume?
[23:01] <ochosi> n-iCe: what bar are you referring to?
[23:02] <n-iCe> bottom bar
[23:02] <ochosi> n-iCe: you mean the xfce-panel?
[23:03] <ochosi> Aknot: depending on what version of xubuntu you're using, you might have to open the settings-editor (app-menu > settings > settings-manager > settings editor) and go to xfce4-mixer
[23:03] <n-iCe> dunno the osx look like bar
[23:03] <ochosi> Aknot: then change both "active-card" and "sound-card" to this: "PlaybackInternalAudioAnalogStereoPulseAudioMixer"
[23:04] <ochosi> Aknot: then you might have to restart your session for the changes to take effect, not sure
[23:04] <ochosi> n-iCe: have you removed the bottom panel completely? (yes, those "bars" are commonly referred to as "panels" here)
[23:05] <n-iCe> I created a new one, but is not transparent
[23:05] <ochosi> n-iCe: ah, ok. right-click the new panel, go to panel > panel preferences > appearance > style "solid color" and then change the alpha value
[23:06] <ochosi> (although technically you don't have to change the color, you can only change the alpha too)
[23:06] <n-iCe> aweooooooooosme
[23:09] <n-iCe> thanks
[23:11] <Aknot> ochosi i remember when i used kde i just had to switch something in sound settings.
[23:11] <ochosi> niska`: no problem
[23:11] <Aknot> i had same problem
[23:12] <ochosi> Aknot: yes, but this is a known issue in xubuntu with pulseaudio, it will be fixed in 13.04
[23:12] <Aknot> nice
[23:12] <ochosi> although it's possible that you have a different issue
[23:12] <Aknot> i had same issue in kubuntu
[23:12] <Aknot> but it was easy to fix
[23:12] <Aknot> but on xfce there isnt many options in pulseaudio settings
[23:14] <ochosi> yeah, there is no settings dialog for the daemon that manages the multimedia-buttons on keyboards
[23:14] <ochosi> in xubuntu
[23:14] <ochosi> so you have to use the settings-editor and change the values there
[23:25] <Pizza90> hi all, i am running xubuntu 12.04 and using the latest skype version for linux, i can't use my mic or my headphones because in the settings in the drop menu i see only "alsa" as option and i can't change it, anyone with the same problem?