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ubottuPING! beuno, cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat, head_victim, hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg, n0rman, Pendulum, PabloRubienes. Meeting time.12:00
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jared#startmeeting 1200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board12:03
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=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 1200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board Meeting | Current topic:
jaredHello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 1200 UTC meeting for March 20, 2013. The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards12:03
jaredWe will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.12:04
jaredThe format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).12:04
jaredEach applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.12:04
jaredDuring this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.12:04
jaredWhen the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)12:04
amachujared: Hi12:04
tvossjared, hi12:04
jaredamachu: gday :)12:04
airurandohi jared12:04
jared#voters cjohnston Destine Pendulum jared12:05
meetingologyCurrent voters: Destine Pendulum cjohnston jared12:05
jaredOk, so looking at the page airurando is the first applicant off the ranks. While we read over your application page and wiki if you can please give us a brief introduction to yourself airurando that would be great.12:05
airurandoHi Everyone12:06
jared#subtopic airurando12:06
airurandoMy name is Mike O'Donohue and I am a very active member and administrator of the Ubuntu Ireland LoCo12:06
airurandomy wiki page is located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mikeodonohue12:07
airurandoI am a passionate advocate for ubuntu here in Ireland12:07
airurandoI am heavily involved in the organisation of, and participation in, the majority of Ubuntu Events held here in Ireland12:07
airurandoOver the past 9 months I have lead the effort to reboot the Irish LoCo in an effort to rekindle greater activity within the team12:07
airurandoMy daughter is way more famous than me in Ubuntu circles.  Orla was the community pick winner of the inaugural Ubuntu Women Project World Play Day Competition in 201012:07
airurandoI'm a microbiologist by trade12:07
airurandoThat's me in a nutshell.  I'm happy to take any questions you may have12:08
jared#link http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ie/12:08
czajkowski\o/12:08
jaredFor those people unsure how to get to the LoCo page to see involvement12:08
* czajkowski is here to cheer for airurando 12:08
ebelme too12:08
* tdr112 me too12:08
zmoylanand me12:08
jaredQuite the cheer squad :)12:08
czajkowski\o/12:08
airurandothanks czajkowski, ebel, tdr112 and zmoylan12:09
jaredairurando: well done reinvigorating a Loco, I know from experience that can be a challenging role12:09
czajkowskiI'd just like to echo folks, airurando has been a great asset to the Ubuntu-IE community, always ready to lend a hand12:09
ebelaye, very passionate and hard working12:10
airurandothanks jared12:10
zmoylanyou can always depend on airurando to turn up at every meeting or event12:10
ebelyeah, and he has often got much further to travel12:10
ebelhe really makes an effort12:12
jared#vote airurando to obtain Ubuntu Membership12:12
meetingologyPlease vote on: airurando to obtain Ubuntu Membership12:12
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)12:12
amachuairurando: good job. but then why took so long for applying?12:12
cjohnston+112:12
meetingology+1 received from cjohnston12:12
Destine+1 excellent on LoCo12:12
meetingology+1 excellent on LoCo received from Destine12:12
airurandoamachu: not being technical I was hesitant12:13
jared+1 good work with the Loco, I hope you are able to continue the energy levels into the future12:13
meetingology+1 good work with the Loco, I hope you are able to continue the energy levels into the future received from jared12:13
jared#voters cjohnston Destine Pendulum jared hggdh12:13
meetingologyCurrent voters: Destine Pendulum cjohnston hggdh jared12:13
Pendulum+1 great work!12:13
meetingology+1 great work! received from Pendulum12:13
jaredairurando: the hesitancy is common, but community support is just as valuable as technical support.12:13
amachuairurando: fine. may be at ubuntu-devel, it should have been the case12:13
amachu+1 great job and continuos.12:14
hggdh+112:16
meetingology+1 received from hggdh12:16
jared#endvote12:16
meetingologyVoting ended on: airurando to obtain Ubuntu Membership12:16
meetingologyVotes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:012:16
meetingologyMotion carried12:16
czajkowskiyay12:16
czajkowskiwell done amachu12:17
czajkowskiairurando:12:17
airurandoWow...thank you cjonston, Destine, jared, Pendulum, amachu and hggdh12:17
jaredCongratulations airurando :) Well done and I look forward to hear how well you're doing into the future12:17
tvossairurando, congratulations :)12:17
airurandothis is amazing12:17
airurandothank you all so much12:17
airurandohonoured12:17
* czajkowski looks forward to getting airurando blog on planet :) 12:17
tdr112great news12:17
tdr112well done airurando12:17
Destineairurando, congrats!12:17
airurandothanks tvoss and good luck12:17
hggdhairurando: thank you12:17
tvossairurando, thank you :)12:17
zmoylancongrats airurando12:18
* airurando is delighted12:18
airurandothanks zmoylan12:18
airurandothanks tdr11212:19
ebelCongrats airurando12:19
airurandothanks ebel12:19
jared#subtopic tvoss12:20
tvossHi all12:20
jaredNow we move on to the second application, if you can please give us a brief intro tvoss while we read over the application12:21
tvossjared, sure :)12:21
tvossagain: Hi all12:21
tvossMy name is Thomas Voß and I have been using Ubuntu since the 4.10 days12:21
jared#voters cjohnston Destine Pendulum jared hggdh amachu12:21
meetingologyCurrent voters: Destine Pendulum amachu cjohnston hggdh jared12:21
tvosshowever, before joining Canonical around 11.10, I mostly used Ubuntu and advertised it to friends, family and co-workers.12:22
tvossWhen joining Canonical, I spent my first few weeks on ramping up the QA efforts around Ubuntu in preparation for 12.04. I then focused on teaching Chromium pixel perfect scrolling12:23
tvossbefore starting to work on the Ubuntu Touch project. There, I designed and implemented the platform abstraction layer that allows us to selectively reuse certain Android drivers and services.12:24
jaredtvoss: Just out of curiosity, how long have you been involved in the Touch project?12:24
* k1l cheers up for tvoss \o/12:25
tvossjared, in the Ubuntu Touch project (as in mobile)? From the very beginning12:25
* ogra_ joins k1l and pulls out his pompoms12:25
jaredtvoss: cool, just never sure as projects that new it's hard to judge looking at launchpad team membership join dates.12:25
hggdhhi ogra_ :-)12:25
cjohnstonWhat's Mir?12:25
ogra_(to cold here for a miniskirt, so bear with me :) )12:25
tvosscjohnston, Mir is a next-generation display server12:26
ogra_cjohnston, the systemd of display servers ;)12:26
tvossright now, I'm working as a technical architect at Canonical, focussing on unity and mir, working towards a cross-formfactor future12:26
tvossk1l, ogra_ thanks :)12:26
tvossand that's pretty much me12:27
hggdhtvoss: please give us a bit, discussing it12:27
jaredtvoss: I like the inclusiveness of your goals.12:27
tvosshggdh, sure :)12:27
tvossjared, thank you12:28
jared#vote tvoss to obtain Ubuntu Membership12:29
meetingologyPlease vote on: tvoss to obtain Ubuntu Membership12:29
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)12:29
cjohnston+1 to the moon!12:29
meetingology+1 to the moon! received from cjohnston12:29
Pendulum+112:29
meetingology+1 received from Pendulum12:29
Destine+112:29
meetingology+1 received from Destine12:29
hggdh+1 even with ogra cheering ;-)12:29
meetingology+1 even with ogra cheering ;-) received from hggdh12:29
ogra_hahaha12:29
cjohnstonpoor ogra_12:29
hggdh:-)12:29
tvosscjohnston, thank you :)12:29
jared+1 awesome work and glad to see such impressive goals.12:29
meetingology+1 awesome work and glad to see such impressive goals. received from jared12:29
cjohnstonno respect ogra_, no respect..12:29
* tvoss hugs ogra_ for cheering12:29
* ogra_ hugs tvoss 12:30
* hggdh hugs ogra_, and wonder when paths will again cross12:30
amachu+1 and wish mir comes out really good12:30
meetingology+1 and wish mir comes out really good received from amachu12:30
jared#endvote12:30
meetingologyVoting ended on: tvoss to obtain Ubuntu Membership12:30
meetingologyVotes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:012:30
meetingologyMotion carried12:30
ogra_hggdh, next physical UDS ... i'm sure there will be one again ... one day12:30
jaredCongratulations tvoss, I look forward to hearing all about Mir in the coming months.12:31
airurandocongrats tvoss12:31
hggdhtvoss: welcome!12:31
tvossthank you all :) to those cheering and to those voting :)12:31
tvossjared, thank you12:31
ogra_hggdh, after tvoss made us all famous :)12:31
hggdhLOL12:31
jaredtvoss: well prepared application to, makes life very easy for us.12:31
k1lcongrats tvoss and airurando12:31
tvossogra_, no pressure :)12:31
Pendulumtvoss: congrats :)12:31
Destine+1 on the physical uds!12:31
tvossjared, thank you, dholbach helped a lot :)12:31
tvossairurando, thank you :)12:31
* tvoss feels honoured, too12:32
airurandogreat line tvoss:  thank you all :) to those cheering and to those voting :)  (i reiterate it)12:32
dholbachcongratulations tvoss!12:32
* tvoss hugs dholbach ... thank you12:33
* dholbach hugs you all back :)12:33
jaredNice to see such a variety in applicants tonight, goes to show there are many ways of contributing.12:33
jared#endmeeting12:33
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meetingologyMeeting ended Wed Mar 20 12:33:58 2013 UTC.12:33
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jaredJust for the sake of the logs the meeting is close, happy to discuss other issues if wanted :)12:34
* hggdh gets off to new office12:35
jaredhggdh: shiny12:36
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* slangasek waves15:01
jodho/15:01
evhi15:01
slangasek#startmeeting15:02
meetingologyMeeting started Wed Mar 20 15:02:04 2013 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:02
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slangasek[TOPIC] lightning round15:02
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra cjwatson xnox stokachu)15:05
slangasekxnox slangasek stokachu ogra jodh doko barry bdmurray cjwatson stgraber ev15:05
evwin!15:05
xnoxwin!15:05
evhah15:05
ogra_pfft15:05
ogra_ots cold at the edge :)15:06
ogra_*its15:06
xnox* mobile packaging followed up, good progress, but not merged yet.15:06
xnox* carry over from last week: please remove guile1.6 bug #115449115:06
xnox* u1 ubiquity plugin FFe not granted, left in the branch15:06
xnox  lp:~xnox/ubiquity/main-u115:06
xnox* waiting on dinstall, to sync boost1.53 into raring/universe to15:06
xnox  replace boost1.50. Will help with transitioning to it in S.15:06
ubottubug 1154491 in guile-db (Ubuntu) "Please remove guile-1.6 from the archive" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115449115:06
xnox* Uploaded ubiquity fixing a few UI / usability bugs targetted for15:06
xnox  raring.15:06
xnox* Helped design team to create and land ubiquity-slideshow changes for15:06
xnox  raring.15:06
xnox* upstart file bridge code review.15:06
xnox* Followed up questions on:15:06
xnox  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImageBasedUpgrades/Mobile15:06
xnox* Still have two high installer bugs to fix in release tracking15:06
xnox* PSU RMA'ed, new PSU arrives on monday, hopefully I'll have my15:06
xnox  machine all working then.15:06
xnox..15:06
slangasek * FFe wrangling15:07
slangasek * SRU processing of maas15:07
slangasek * work with pitti on initramfs-tools regression caused by libudev transition (bug #1154813)15:07
ubottubug 1154813 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Boot broken with initramfs-tools 0.103ubuntu0.5b1 - wait-for-root doesn't wait" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115481315:07
slangasek * work on dropping obsolete armadaxp images from the archive15:07
slangasek * discussions about how to support Panda boards going forward in light of no upstream 3d driver support15:07
slangasek * upstart MP reviews15:07
slangasek * discussion on bug #967229; had a flash of insight about a possible useful upstart core event, proposed on the mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/upstart-devel/2013-March/002428.html15:07
ubottubug 967229 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Text mode shown briefly with various "cryptic" texts when logging out or shutting down" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96722915:08
slangasek(done)15:08
stokachu(my bugs)15:08
ogra_do we have a final decision for the pandas ?15:08
stokachubug 778627 - uploaded, waiting on sru approval15:08
stokachubug 1121874 - test package built, waiting for testing from interested parties15:08
ubottubug 778627 in bash (Ubuntu Precise) "In natty, bash completion now quotes shell variable references rather than expanding them" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77862715:08
stokachubug 1013798 - need to take a look at latest upstream work and hopefully get a sru built by end of week.15:08
stokachu(other reported bug tasks)15:08
stokachubug 1109327 - infinity is assigned, however, chris arges is offering his assistance in getting debdiffs written up and attached.15:08
ubottubug 1121874 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu) "MySQL launch fails silently if < 4MB of disk space is available" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112187415:08
stokachubug 982961 - someone marked this fix released pre-maturely, assignee is curious if this messes up any pre-existing workflow. I verified that precise was tested in comment #22 and applied tags properly, will this still be picked up by the janitor bot?15:08
ubottubug 1013798 in libgcrypt11 (Ubuntu Raring) "Blink SIP client segfaults with libgcrypt11 1.5.0-3ubuntu0.1" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101379815:08
ubottubug 1109327 in eglibc (Ubuntu Quantal) "who command gets "who: memory exhausted" for certain inputs" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110932715:08
stokachubug 1023069 - Needs sponsor/approval15:08
stokachubug 1057358 - Needs approval15:08
ubottubug 982961 in iptables (Ubuntu Precise) ""RATEEST" and "statistic" modules are broken " [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98296115:08
stokachubug 1130097 - Looks like it was sponsored but it doesnt look like it was uploaded yet15:08
ubottubug 1023069 in debootstrap (Ubuntu Lucid) "Packages was corrupt" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102306915:08
stokachupreparing for seg sprint next week15:08
ubottubug 1057358 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Precise) "dhcpd in isc-dhcp-server-ldap cannot read /etc/ldap/ldap.conf due to missing entry in apparmor profile" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105735815:08
stokachu- Worked with arges in developing/deploying latest seg dashboard15:08
ubottubug 1130097 in ubuntu-geoip (Ubuntu Precise) "geoclue-ubuntu-geoip doesn't support proxies" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113009715:08
stokachu- New project for integrating salesforce accounts, cases, etc with seg dash and bridging relevant launchpad.net data (https://github.com/debugmonkey/python-salesforce)15:08
stokachumisc:15:08
stokachu- been working on a perl launchpad authorization/client library, purely research and experimentation.(https://github.com/battlemidget/Net-OAuth-LP)15:08
stokachu(done)15:08
slangasekogra_: nothing "final", but we think we're keeping the builds in raring15:08
ogra_done:15:08
ogra_ * added changelog syncing to phablet images sync script15:08
ogra_ * pulled android-x86 source down from 01.org to start building x86 emulator images (took only three days to download :P )15:08
ogra_ * set up seed and ubuntu-touch-meta for starting to build raring ubuntu-touch images15:08
ogra_   (seed is at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.raring)15:08
ogra_ * ubuntu-touch and convergence power-mgmt discussion15:08
ogra_ * meetings about raring ubuntu-touch builds15:08
ogra_todo:15:08
ogra_ * start wildly poking around in android-x86 until it is stripped down enough to us as a base for ubuntu-touch qemu emulation15:08
ogra_ * start on the x86 buildd for git android image builds work15:09
ogra_ * move nexus7 desktop images to pxz (do we still want that or will that image just go away in the near future ?)15:09
ogra_..15:09
ogra_slangasek, ok15:09
ogra_ppisati, ^^^ :)15:09
jodh- blueprints:15:11
jodh  - foundations-r-upstart-roadmap: no progress.15:11
jodh  - foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements:15:11
jodh    - Created FFE for upstart (bug 1155205)15:11
ubottubug 1155205 in upstart (Ubuntu) "FFE Request for Upstart in raring" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115520515:11
ogra_(.. meant done btw)15:11
jodh    - Added apport hook for Upstart.15:11
jodh    - Raised MP for lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/upstart-monitor GUI/CLI tool15:11
jodh      (awaiting review - hint, hint all upstart devs :-).15:11
jodh    - Tweaks to upstart-file-bridge (now in trunk).15:11
ppisatislangasek: you mean desktop or server? because we don't have the pvr-omap driver wrt 3.815:11
jodh    - Good progress on libtestupstart.py (required for new DEP-8 tests).15:11
jodh    - Raised MP on gnome-session to emit 'desktop' events for15:11
jodh      users jobs that will ensure a fully operational desktop15:11
slangasekppisati: desktop15:11
jodh      environment.15:11
ogra_ppisati, desktop with 3.515:11
jodh    - Blog post on Upstart Sessions in Raring (in progress).15:11
jodh- boot:15:11
jodh  - Uploaded libnih 1.0.3-4ubuntu16.15:11
jodh  - Wrote an apport hook for mountall.15:11
jodh  - Investigating bug 1154040.15:11
ubottubug 1154040 in upstart (Ubuntu) "Upgrading to 1.7 on raring caused system to crash" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115404015:11
jodh  - Raised bug 1157713 after identifying the failure cause.15:11
ubottubug 1157713 in upstart "upstart tests which run without inotify fail occasionally" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115771315:12
jodh- misc:15:12
jodh  - Appraisal stuff (ongoing).15:12
jodh  - Sprint prep. admin.15:12
jodh- TODO:15:12
jodh  - look at steves quiesced event and respond.15:12
jodh  - Upstart FFE work.15:12
slangasekppisati: I talked to ogasawara, the tentative plan is to just carry the quantal kernel in raring with no additional work on it15:12
jodh  -15:12
jodhĴ15:12
jodh 15:12
jodh(ignore the last dash :-)15:12
bdmurrayI don't think doko or barry are around so I'll start15:14
bdmurraymodified bug-bot to comment on SRU bugs that may have a regression in the -proposed version of the package15:14
xnoxstokachu:  http://pad.lv/1023069 does this need sponsoring an upload, or just publishing in -proposed by SRU team?15:14
bdmurraywrote a unit test for rate of crashes for errors15:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023069 in debootstrap (Ubuntu Lucid) "Packages was corrupt" [Undecided,In progress]15:14
bdmurrayinvestigation into failed to retrace crashes on errors15:14
bdmurrayset up postgres / oauth in lxc version of errors15:14
bdmurrayupdated 000-default in errors charm to have the right paths15:14
bdmurrayerrors: modified package crash rate to take into account hours passed in the day15:14
bdmurrayerrors: modified package crash rate to use standard deviation15:14
slangasekogra_: nexus7 pxz>  I don't remember this ever being a requirement at all?  There was concern about reducing the download size of images that would need to be deployed OTA, and xz was the solution there, so maybe this is useful as general build infrastructure work - but I don't know that we care about it for the n7 desktop image specifically15:14
bdmurrayworked on a filter for home page based on the logged in user15:14
bdmurrayresolved an issue with add_teams in errors and not committing data to the database15:14
bdmurraycode reviews for evan15:14
bdmurraymerged / improved fix for update-notifier bug 88765015:14
ubottubug 887650 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "Upon inserting Ubuntu liveCDs older than current install, it still asks to upgrade" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88765015:14
bdmurraytest case creation for session-installer bug 105654515:14
ubottubug 1056545 in sessioninstaller (Ubuntu Quantal) "session-installer crashed with AlreadyCalledDeferred in callback()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105654515:14
bdmurraymerge proposal for lightdm partial fix for bug 96722915:14
ubottubug 967229 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Text mode shown briefly with various "cryptic" texts when logging out or shutting down" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96722915:14
bdmurraydone15:14
cjwatsonImage building:15:15
cjwatson Set gfxboot default language to zh_CN for UbuntuKylin, and add a suitable background image.15:15
cjwatson (spec:foundations-r-future-release-infrastructure) More cdimage Python rewriting.15:15
cjwatson Finally killed off private branch of cdimage, so the whole thing is now open-source again at last.15:15
cjwatson 81 commits to lp:ubuntu-cdimage in the last week ...15:15
cjwatson (spec:foundations-1303-cdimage-android-builds) Got IS to poke a firewall hole from PS Jenkins to nusakan:ssh.15:15
cjwatson (spec:foundations-1303-cdimage-android-builds) Set up "pending" symlink (OMG the bikeshed) and started to work with QA on figuring out how to get Jenkins to update "current".15:15
cjwatson+1 maintenance:15:15
cjwatson Fixed unresolvable dep-wait in bsdmainutils.15:15
cjwatson Fixed tarantool build failure (over-optimistic assembly on i386).15:15
cjwatson Fixed various autopkgtest failures (ubiquity, software-properties, aptdaemon)15:15
cjwatson Fixed ruby-ffi build failure: this involved multiarching Tk and fixing multiple problems in ruby1.8.15:15
cjwatson Fixed slof build failure, using a cross-compiler.15:15
cjwatson Poked a bit at the Haskell transition, although a lot of it is beyond me.15:16
cjwatson Resolved an ambiguous Recommends in libpackagekit-glib2-14 which caused component-mismatches output to differ with germinate >= 2.6.15:16
cjwatsonMisc:15:16
cjwatson Fixed bug 1130284 (applied LibreOffice's patch to fix crash on rendering incremental Malayalam text input).15:16
ubottubug 1130284 in ICU "Libreoffice crash when typing some Malayalam text using ibus" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113028415:16
cjwatson Fixed bug 869825 (confusing Swiss keyboard layout descriptions).15:16
stokachuxnox: looks like it needs both15:16
ubottubug 869825 in console-setup (Ubuntu Raring) "French (Switzerland) is no longer a layout choice in the installer" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86982515:16
cjwatson..15:16
ogra_slangasek, it was a requirement for being able to re-pack the images on the fly before downloading so you can install on something else than the 8G model ... the sparse file overheaed make_ext4fs adds gets to big for flashing if the tarball doesnt get smaller15:16
ogra_s/downloading/flashing/15:16
xnoxstokachu: ack.15:16
stgraberFeature work:15:17
stgraber - Upstart (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements)15:17
stgraber  - Pushed user jobs to dbus, gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon. Now in the archive.15:17
stgraber  - Prepared test version of gnome-session with desktop-start/desktop-end events. Will upload later today.15:17
stgraber  - Started looking into our default Xsession scripts that need porting to upstart.15:17
stgraber - Container (BLUEPRINT: servercloud-r-lxc)15:17
stgraber  - Usual code review.15:17
stgraber  - Roadmap for 1.0 and Linux Plumbers planning.15:17
stgraber  - Release 0.9~rc1, got an FFe and uploaded to raring. 0.9 final is expected in 2-3 weeks and will be bugfix only so I'm going to try to get it in 13.04.15:17
stgraber  - Some LXC/Android debugging.15:17
stgraber - Networking (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-networking)15:17
stgraber  - Added an extra patch to isc-dhcp to fix a MAAS bug where clients would get two IP addresses assigned to them.15:17
stgraber - Mobile Networking (BLUEPRINT: client-1303-converged-network-stack)15:17
stgraber  - Activated the new SIM cards to test dual-stack 3G (multiple PDP contexts)15:17
stgraber  - Requested hardware to test ofono/Android integration15:17
stgraber  - Rebased early NM+ofono patch on current NM, sent to cyphermox for debugging/testing15:17
stgraber  - Attended G+ Hangout for networking QA15:17
stgraber - Mobile updates (BLUEPRINT: foundations-1303-single-image-update)15:17
stgraber  - Had several interesting discussions with various people15:17
stgraber  - Updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImageBasedUpgrades/Mobile to better reflect the way our current builds work15:18
stgraber  - Some more scheduled discussions to discuss apps/local-packages and try to get a clearer picture of the whole thing before I start prototyping it15:18
stgraberOther work:15:18
stgraber - Spent most of Thursday getting the Beta 1 out, pretty much everyone but Ubuntu Desktop and Server participated15:18
stgraber - Fixed lintian upgrade issue (caused by a recent lintian being uploaded to quantal's extra repository a while back)15:18
stgraber - Prepared the Technical Board discussion on our release changes by re-reading all the various threads (quite a lot of e-mails ;))15:18
stgraberOther time spent:15:18
stgraber - Spent half a day on the phone with airlines/travel agencies to get some flights changed and some others booked, anyway, I should now be pretty much ready for April/May :)15:18
stgraber - Peer reviews15:18
stgraberTODO:15:18
stgraber - Continue planning the mobile update process and implement a prototype (need to reflash my Nexus7)15:18
stgraber - Upstart user jobs work (porting remaining Xsession, adding desktop-{start|end} event)15:18
stgraber - ifupdown SRU to quantal and precise15:18
stgraber(DONE)15:18
slangasekogra_: ok.  I think fixing that for the n7 desktop image is a low priority, the priority is to get images for the n7 building for touch with as much of the stack as possible coming from the raring archive15:20
* ogra_ puts on a life vest ... being prepared for the flood15:20
ogra_slangasek, yeah thought so15:21
evsorry, got pulled into #webops15:21
ev- Brought the design of https://errors.ubuntu.com in line with other15:21
ev  *.ubuntu.com *.canonical.com properties. The tables should be much easier to15:21
ev  read. The pages look a lot less busy.15:21
ev  - Work in progress: http://ubuntuone.com/0xSR2uux0f40gn1sjvYHeY15:21
ev  - Redesigned the legend and navigation (to hell with qa.ubuntu.com) based on15:21
ev    Matthew's mockup:15:22
slangasekthat's ok, but your time's up now so you'll have to only paste half15:22
ev    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=site-front-page.png15:22
ev  - Implemented Emily's suggestion for grouping the x-axis months and dates15:22
ev    into boxes over the weekend, with a lot more learning of d3.js along the15:22
ev    way. Unfortuantely this doesn't look right so we're back to the drawing15:22
ev    board.15:22
ogra_haha15:22
evhaha, you wish15:22
ev- You can now log in to https://errors.ubuntu.com from the front page. Thanks15:22
ev  to changes from Brian, the default view is packages you're subscribed to.15:22
ev  This was also needed to make getting at the 'create' not require first going15:22
ev  to a bucket or instance page.15:22
ev- Debugging Swift with jjo.15:22
ev- We're now 100% on Swift. NFS is dead \o/. We now also do Random Early Drop on15:22
ev  the core submission Apache frontends.15:22
ev- Made big improvements to the logging system for the retracers. With this and15:22
ev  the above change, core submission should be much more reliable and quick to15:22
ev  fix problems in.15:22
ev- Fixed some issues in error submission as found in the OOPS reports on:15:22
ev  https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops-local15:22
ev- Implemented the first phase of weighting the average errors per calendar day15:22
ev  (bug 1077122, RT 60205). Found a way to make the back population idempotent.15:22
ev  Woo. Blocked on webops.15:22
ubottubug 1077122 in Errors "Machine weighted at 100% 89 days after last report, 0% 90 days after" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107712215:22
ev- Investigation into sending package installations and removals to a separate15:22
ev  service from daisy.ubuntu.com to better inform the "rate of crashes changes"15:22
ev  portion of phased updates. Discussion with Tom and James Troup, then Steve15:22
ev  and Brian. Tabled for the first cut of phased updates. It's a relatively15:22
ev  straightforward service to implement (save idempotent counters in a15:22
ev  distributed database being an unsolved problem in open source code), but15:22
ev  we're going to try to model our way out of this.15:22
ev- Started building the new BucketVersions (sorry about the dates, my clock was15:22
ev  off by some distance) and found a way forward with our usage of counters.15:22
ev  Counters will be used as the quick but rough calculation, repaired nightly by15:22
ev  reading from wide rows. This will also make this sort of back-population a15:22
ev  lot easier:15:22
ev  http://code.launchpad.net/~ev/oops-repository/bucket-versions15:22
ev- Code reviews for Brian.15:22
ev- Fixes to our juju charms to match recent changes to lp:daisy and lp:errors.15:22
ev  We're finally moving services into prodstack, now that the core file storage15:23
ev  is on Swift!15:23
evOther:15:23
ev- Google Anayltics statistics are making me sad. I need to send an internal15:23
ev  mail to get more developers using it. Blocked on opening it up to the wider15:23
ev  Ubuntu developer audience (hi slangasek ;)).15:23
ev(done!)15:23
ogra_wow15:23
ogra_if you would drop some linewraps you could be as short as stgraber15:23
ogra_(hmm, that did come out wrong)15:24
* slangasek raises an eyebrow15:24
slangasekany questions?15:24
ogra_i meant the text ... only the text !15:24
stgraberogra_: ;)15:25
stgraberogra_: I was wondering if infinity had some bad influence on you lately ;)15:25
ogra_hah15:25
infinity*cough*15:25
ogra_he definitely always has15:25
* hyperair notes that line breaks make you taller.15:25
evogra_: don't go acting like keybuk and claim that the 80 character rule is stupid: https://twitter.com/keybuk/status/31127863915094425615:26
evI hate wrapped text.15:26
evwith a passion.15:26
everr unwrapped15:26
* ogra_ has a 5760x1080 screen here ... needs quite big fonts to make 80 chars fit the width 15:27
cjwatsonwide lines are for people who don't have enough side-by-side terminals15:27
cjwatson(or vertically-split vim buffers)15:27
slangasekdoes your IRC client not wrap it for you/15:27
slangasekmy IRC window is not 80 characters wide :P15:27
ogra_it would if the line would even reach the side15:27
slangasek[TOPIC] Bugs15:28
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slangasekbdmurray:15:28
evslangasek: textual, so no15:28
bdmurraybug 670096 came from the oem team15:28
ubottubug 670096 in OEM Priority Project precise "Ubuntu fails to boot from ISO if there's a NTFS partition with Windows hibernated on it." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67009615:28
evcjwatson: agreed15:28
slangasekev: ...15:28
stgraberev: that reminds me I need to copy my vimrc over to my shell machine. Expect more wrapping to 80chars after that ;)15:29
bdmurrayits just assigned to me for notification purposes15:29
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slangasekev: I assure you, irssi which is textual knows how to wrap long lines for you and the result looks much better here than manual line breaks at 80 ;)15:29
slangasekquick, let's turn this into a spaces-vs-tabs flamewar15:29
ogra_LOL15:30
xnoxbdmurray: hmm... that bug above sounds like something for stgraber to poke, given the lupin/casper references.15:30
slangasek670096> er, so I guess they will want that fixed for the next point release15:30
stgraberI wonder whether we can find any relation between spaces-vs-tabs and vim-vs-emacs ;)15:30
evslangasek: I grew tired of typing /win 3497049302843208342 (http://www.codeux.com/textual/)15:31
* xnox have you voted in the "text editor madness" cup yet?15:32
xnoxhttps://www.rackspace.com/blog/text-editor-madness-bracket-vote-for-your-favorite/15:32
slangasekstgraber, cjwatson: looks to me like bug #670096 should actually be fixed in grub2, as it's a filesystem scan bug?15:33
ubottubug 670096 in OEM Priority Project precise "Ubuntu fails to boot from ISO if there's a NTFS partition with Windows hibernated on it." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67009615:33
stgraberbdmurray: sounds like my kind of bug. Though as I mentioned on the call, my ability to run VMs is rather minimal at the moment so I could take a look at it but only once I get my laptop back15:33
slangaseker, oh, this runs in the initramfs, not in grub15:33
slangasekbdmurray: please assign to stgraber for follow-up15:34
slangaseknext?15:34
bdmurrayit loks like bug 1093055 needs a fix in precise15:34
ubottubug 1093055 in gcc-4.6 (Ubuntu) "internal compiler error: in build_zero_init_1, at cp/init.c:279" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109305515:34
cjwatsonbullet dodged15:34
stgraberslangasek: looks like a bug with one of the fs scan casper does in the initramfs. I know we explicitly scan for swap and for cdrom drives, I'm guessing one of the two is the source of the problem. But I'd need to be able to reproduce it to look at it15:34
* slangasek nods15:34
cjwatsonstgraber: lupin's a casper add-on, in this case - the original analysis doesn't look too implausible15:35
slangasekbdmurray: looks to be only relevant for an SRU of gcc-4.6; why is this bug a priority?15:36
cjwatsongcc-4.6 - I suspect that'd be backed up behind the thread in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2013-March/002265.html15:36
slangasekyep15:36
stgrabercjwatson: there's that proposed commit: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ossug-hychen/ubuntu/precise/lupin/fix-670096/revision/190?start_revid=190 but I'd need to look into all the possible consequences (in general, not panicing on unknown fs sounds like a good plan)15:38
cjwatsonYeah, indeed check the control flow since I expect it's non-obvious15:39
bdmurrayah, okay moving on then15:39
bdmurraythere are a couple of wubi bugs15:39
bdmurraybug 115570415:39
ubottubug 1155704 in Wubi "13.04 installer doesn't create user account" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115570415:39
bdmurrayand bug 113477015:40
ubottubug 1134770 in Wubi "Wubi fails to detect 12.04.2 and 13.04 AMD64 ISO" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113477015:40
slangasekhmm15:41
slangasekit may be best to address this by not releasing wubi with 13.04, if it's not currently in good shape15:41
bdmurraymore generally there is bug 107895915:42
ubottubug 1078959 in Wubi "Wubi installer/website should warn about potential data loss with root.disk corruption" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107895915:42
slangaseknot sure I agree with the thrust of that15:43
slangasekyes, ntfs corruption could nuke your whole Ubuntu install, but why is that a likely outcome?15:44
cjwatsonit was more of a problem before we spent lots of effort on making sure we always unmounted cleanly, I think15:45
xnoxwubi doesn't work with windows8 quick hibernation, and no work is done on making wubi installer disabled that or work with it somehow.15:45
slangasekcjwatson: do you want to follow up on that bug to clarify?15:46
slangasekxnox: right15:46
slangasekand Wubi is obviously not relevant to phones and tablets15:46
ev:(15:46
evend of an era15:46
slangasekwe should be downplaying Wubi as an install option, rather than investing effort into fixing it15:46
slangasekev: bug #1 is fixed15:46
ubottubug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115:47
slangasek(launchpad lies ;)15:47
evhahaha, indeed it is15:47
cjwatsonI don't want to blow off bcbc as he's pretty much the top user supporting wubi15:47
evthanks Apple (and Google)15:47
xnoxrealisticly i don't see it fixed in less than a month, fully validated, qa'ed, uploaded, signed, published, with Freeze exceptions granted....15:47
bdmurrayone of hte the forum links was about a 12.10 but the others were about 11.04 and 11.1015:47
slangasekcjwatson: well - could you follow up in a non-blowing-off manner then? :)15:47
xnoxslangasek: note that valve / steam advertise wubi as a way to try ubuntu/steam on linux.15:48
cjwatsonslangasek: heh.  done15:48
slangasekcjwatson: ta15:48
slangasekxnox: yes, we've communicated to Valve that this is not something we're15:48
slangasek- able to support them in15:48
slangasekwell, I should say, I've communicated to the business folks that this is the case15:49
xnoxack.15:49
slangasekmaybe they're telling Valve something entirely different ;P15:49
slangasekbdmurray: anything else?15:50
* xnox emacs tetris is cross-platform surely that's enough gaming for everyone.15:50
bdmurrayslangasek: no, how will we go about downplaying wubi as an install option.15:50
slangasekbdmurray: where is it advertised currently?15:51
cjwatsonev: remind me where the wubi log goes for diskimage installs - is it in the windows temp directory?15:51
slangasekI think we should not release wubi at all with 13.04, not include it in the release announcement, and preferably drop any links from the main download page15:51
bdmurrayI guess I'll look into where wubi is advertised.15:52
xnoxslangasek: drop it from the ubuntu.com or make it a page that one cannot get to via site map?!15:52
xnoxhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download "checkout windows installer" just below desktop is wubi15:52
slangasekxnox: it may be something we want to keep wrt past releases, I'm not sure15:52
xnoxwhich takes one to wubi mini-site: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer15:53
slangasekah, indeed15:53
cjwatsonit's a bit less prominent than it was15:53
cjwatsonI think it used to be at the top15:53
xnoxthat later page already has windows8 /uefi warning.15:53
slangasekso either we should lose that link from http://www.ubuntu.com/download, or we should make sure 13.04 doesn't get added to the release list15:53
slangasekxnox: warning about Windows 8 because of SB, not because of quick hibernation15:54
stgraberslangasek: would we still build the wubi diskimage for 13.04 then or drop them too?15:54
slangasekstgraber: drop15:54
infinity+1 to that.15:54
stgraberslangasek: ok, I'll update the manifest then15:54
stgraberand we can probably turn off the cronjobs too15:55
slangasekbdmurray: you're following up on the website side?15:55
cjwatsonseems worth some kind of announcement though!15:55
slangasekyes15:55
slangasekstgraber: can you announce it on ubuntu-devel before you go shutting it off?15:55
* infinity nominates slangasek for the announcement, since he feels so strongly.15:55
slangasek:)15:55
slangasekok, I'll announce15:55
slangasekstgraber: can you wait for my announcement before shutting things off? ;)15:56
stgraberI'll do the cdimage/manifest changes post-announcement15:56
bdmurrayI'll take care of the website bits15:56
stokachucould someone let me know if any of the bugs i reported are on anyones radar?15:56
cjwatsonwe still have to fix 1134770 for 12.04.3 IMO15:56
cjwatson(the vmlinuz vs. vmlinuz.efi one)15:56
xnoxstokachu: i'll look at debootstrap one.15:57
stokachuxnox: cool man thanks15:57
slangasekstokachu: from your descriptions I didn't see any that seemed to require intervention - are there particular ones that you need us to take action on?15:57
slangasekstokachu: bug #982961, the janitor bot won't care if it's "fix released"15:57
ubottubug 982961 in iptables (Ubuntu Precise) ""RATEEST" and "statistic" modules are broken " [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98296115:57
xnoxstokachu: the rest are a bit far outside my comfort zone.15:57
stokachuslangasek: ok15:57
stgraberstokachu: the isc-dhcp ldap one is on my radar for precise but not really high prio here, so let me know if you need it done ASAP15:57
stokachustgraber: just as long are you are aware of it thats ok with me15:58
stokachui posted my status to the relevant teams so if i hear anything back that requires urgent ill ping here15:58
stgraberstokachu: there was a first SRU attempt for that one which got sponsored but they got caught by the usual trick in debian/series which is that patches under a specific line will get reverted by debian/rules, making that specific upload a no-op ;)15:58
cjwatsonstokachu: 982961> setting the status back was good enough15:58
stokachucjwatson: ok cool15:59
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:59
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* slangasek gets everyone out on time15:59
stokachustgraber: yea i think a new one was uploaded15:59
stokachuerr attached*15:59
* xnox notes to never buy bundled PSU with case ever again.15:59
slangasekany other topics to cover in 30 seconds?15:59
infinitystokachu: I have packages prepped for the eglibc one you highlighted, I just need to finish verifying the current SRUs.15:59
stgraberstokachu: yep, there's a new debdiff that just needs bundling with another precise SRU16:00
stokachuinfinity: ok cool let me or arges know if you get to busy and we can do the processes work16:00
infinitystokachu: I'm pretty sure the bug log even has links to the test packages I gave arges. :P16:00
infinitystokachu: So, it seems odd that there needs to be offers of debdiffs after that.16:00
stokachuinfinity: ill have to look im just the messenger for that one16:01
infinity(Maybe there weren't links, I dunno, didn't go read it again)16:01
infinityBut yeah, I should validate all the current pending bugs this afternoon, so eglibc can move on with life.  There are a few SRUs people want (none are critical, though).16:01
stokachuinfinity: cool man sounds good16:02
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slangasekthat's a wrap16:02
ogra_thanks !16:02
slangasekthanks!16:02
stgraberthanks!16:02
stokachuthanks :D16:02
jodhthanks16:02
stokachuspanks?16:02
xnoxcheers16:02
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