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rick_h_well, give the guy some credit http://term.ie/blog/how-to-get-banned-from-pycon/00:26
snap-lYeah, on the one hand I think CoCs for conferences are a bit over the top00:36
snap-lI've seen people who won't go to a conference if there isn't an explicit CoC for every one to consent to00:37
snap-lbut I do see the need for them00:37
snap-lBut honestly I'm a little tired of this inoffensive nerf culture we're cultivating00:38
snap-lIt's OK to tell people "I am offended" and begin a dialog00:39
snap-lbut this zero tolerance shit needs to stop00:39
snap-lThere is a huge difference between a kid showing up to school with a butter knife, and someone showing up with an arsenal00:40
rick_h_yea, I think the key here is the lighting up and potentialy causing harm for the conference as a whole if the hotel/conference center decided to make a stink00:49
rick_h_https://github.com/blog/1440-today-s-email-incident interesting even though it's rails00:51
rick_h_never know when that update you pull down will change something you don't have a direct test against00:52
snap-lhttp://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920029533.do03:17
snap-lTest-Driven Development with Python03:17
snap-lFinally something to replace those packt books03:18
snap-lGood morning, gentle folk12:27
rick_h_morn12:31
brouschWow, Ubuntu Touch has been ported for both of my Android devices13:48
rick_h_ruh roh13:53
rick_h_brousch: the QT master?13:54
brouschActually hoping to try Kivy13:54
snap-lTook a quick peek at Kivy last night13:55
snap-lSOme of the samples looked like they had C code in them hidden in triple quotes13:56
snap-lI think that's for CPython?13:56
brouschIt uses Cython13:56
brouschI haven't noticed any difference from regular Python yet13:57
snap-lSorry, Cython13:57
brouschUg, time to run BS errands13:58
brouschsnap-l: http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/13/03/20/1629252/va-scraps-napalm-death-gig-for-fear-decibel-levels-will-damage-sculptures17:20
rick_h_I give up...I can't do people. I'm just going to go hack on my own OSS and give up trying to work with anyone.17:43
greg-grick_h_: that's so Canonical of you ;P17:44
rick_h_greg-g: hah! I've been trained17:44
greg-gsorry, couldn't resist, it was just there, in my head, flashing with big neon lights17:45
brouschOhmy, get out the skin grafts because rick_h_ just got buuuuuurned17:49
rick_h_lol17:49
rick_h_yep, got me good17:49
brouschWho pissed you off now?17:52
jcastroRICK17:53
jcastrohi2u17:53
rick_h_brousch: not pissed off, just working with people is hard17:55
rick_h_you think you understand what you say, they read it differently, don't know what you know. End up wasting days of time/energy17:56
rick_h_jcastro: howdy17:56
brouschah17:56
rick_h_much easier to just write it all :P17:56
rick_h_or as greg-g calls it...go "Canonical"17:56
jcastrorick_h_: when confused just G+ me17:57
jcastrothey're just translating what I am saying anyway17:57
rick_h_jcastro: naw, this is in my own stuff. Guy I'm working with wasted two days writing what ended up being 10lines of code because he didn't understand the 'big picture'17:57
jcastrooh17:58
jcastrowell in that case17:58
rick_h_and all along I thguoht I was making it easy for him and keeping him from needing the 'big picture'17:58
jcastroget to work. :p17:58
rick_h_hah!17:58
rick_h_yep17:58
jcastroso I got the browser up on the N717:58
jcastrowith the juju survey for ODS17:58
jcastroit looks pretty badass17:58
rick_h_survey?17:58
jcastroyeah I am running surveys via booth duty during ODS18:00
jcastroon the tablet18:00
rick_h_ah very cool18:01
snap-lODS?18:18
greg-gOpenStack Developer Summit18:18
snap-lThank you.18:18
greg-gusually in conjunction with UDS, but, ya know ;)18:18
snap-lSome of us don't get to go galavanting to conferences. :)18:19
greg-gI don't anymore, only one or two trips a year for me, probably18:19
snap-lI do all of my conferences in Google Hangout now. Hangouts are cool.18:19
greg-gCC had me flying about once a month on average (July was insane, I was gone for literally 3/4ths of the month)18:19
greg-gsnap-l: that's what some people say18:20
jcastroI am flying more recently than usual18:24
jcastrothough tbh, google hangouts really is awesome for doing remote work18:24
rick_h_yea, but every time I sprint I get wondering. Always seems like so much gets done and crap gets fixed asap vs next stand up/two days later18:27
brouschgreg-g: There aren't Wikipedia drink-ups or edit-a-thons every week around the world?18:35
greg-gbrousch: every other18:41
greg-gwe're a lazy bunch. I mean, writing an encyclopedia is just too easy18:42
greg-galso, being one of the few truly community-run projects, you know what that means, we never get anything done18:42
greg-g</sarcasm-troll>18:43
snap-lhttp://www.theonion.com/articles/find-the-thing-youre-most-passionate-about-then-do,31742/18:46
brouschBig PyCon jokes kerfluffle http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.403861-Adria-Richards-Gets-Two-People-Fired-Over-Dongle-Joke-At-Tech-Conference18:47
greg-gAll that matters is that once you know what you want to do, you dive in a full 10 percent and spend the other 90 torturing yourself because you know damn well that it’s far too late to make a drastic career change, and that you’re stuck on this mind-numbing path for the rest of your life.18:47
snap-lAMen18:48
snap-lNow if you'll excuse me... ;)18:48
snap-lhttp://www.metalinjection.net/podcasts/open-metalcast/open-metalcast-episode-68-tributes-and-compilations18:51
greg-g:)18:55
rick_h_jcastro: know anyone in the ruby community that's PPA knowledgeable? https://twitter.com/alex_gaynor/status/31445686234920550719:24
jcastroack19:27
rick_h_jcastro: https://github.com/topazproject/topaz is what he's talking about in particular.19:28
jcastroI saw that19:29
jcastroinsane!19:29
rick_h_alex is crazy like that. but hey, work on pypy got them $10k from PSF. Maybe some ruby-ists will like this.19:31
brouschI got no response from my local Rubists when I mentioned it a while ago19:32
snap-l"I can't iumagine too many Rubyists who would be pleased that Python is running their language19:35
snap-lJVM is one thing19:36
brouschI have heard a lot of praise for JRuby19:36
rick_h_greg-g: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Nfk1-XMASrk that's sweet. RasberryPi hacking awesomeness19:36
brouschMore RPi hacking http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVM09gaX6pQ19:37
derekvre19:56
snap-lrehi20:01
snap-lwb20:01
derekvty20:03
greg-gab20:04
derekvhorrible stomach flu yesterday20:08
derekvstill recovering20:09
jcastrohey rick_h_20:09
jcastroif you have a minute I could use a G+ with ya20:09
snap-lderekv: I tak it you're not going to CHC tonight20:10
rick_h_jcastro: sure thing20:10
derekvI kindof want to go20:22
snap-lDude, if you're sick, please stay home20:23
derekvOn the chance that whatever I have/had is contagious20:23
derekvnobody wants what I had20:23
derekvtrust me20:23
derekvwouldn't wish it on anyone20:23
brouschDamnit. An update seems to have borked my wireless20:25
brouschWhat good is sitting on LTS if stuff still breaks?20:25
greg-ghah, Debian loves you ;)20:27
rick_h_jcastro: https://plus.google.com/photos/112719704219936118281/albums/5377728377623155505?banner=pwa20:29
jcastrobrousch: which card? can you be specific?20:29
derekvi might do some sort of hackothon on the android20:31
derekvprobably android bookie20:39
rick_h_woot20:39
derekvi don't know if that's something that would appeal to anyone else20:39
rick_h_I've got to try to do some extension work myself.20:40
brousch1geekers20:43
derekvi need to do something with fragments20:52
brousch1Ah, thinking of trying them in the Bookie Android app?20:53
brousch1At GRmobileDev we had a talk on fragments from the author of an O'Reilly Android book. They sounded useful but complicated20:53
derekvI don't think the android bookie app really calls for it given the current feature set20:56
derekvcertainly there are some lower hanging fruit20:56
derekvbut i'd like to be familier with them20:56
derekvnow viewing: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Android-Design20:56
brousch1I have the video of the talk, but it's like 5GB20:59
derekvbrousch1: who was it?21:02
rick_h_derekv: next time we hit up CHC we can chat if you're interested. I'm working on design/mockup for a reader view that shows the list on the left and opens up the readable content and such on the right.21:03
rick_h_derekv: we can work out a design friendly for android tablet and web21:03
rick_h_and might be interesting to tinker with tablet custom UX and such21:03
brousch1derekv: Blake Meike author of http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920023005.do21:04
jcastrosnap-l: ok, I've moved DKM to my cool column21:05
jcastrohttp://gawker.com/5991403/dropkick-murphys-singer-kicks-the-crap-out-of-skinhead-doing-nazi-salute-on-stage-during-st-patricks-day-concert21:05
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Blazeixderekv: did you see the android thing happening this weekend downtown?21:29
Blazeixlemme see if i can find a link21:29
derekvIs something else happeneing downtown this weekend?21:29
greg-gI love #wikimedia-staff, we're talking about how some time ago, Alpine (the Pine mail derivative) was non-free for a while21:30
Blazeixderekv: http://www.detroitgdgdevfest.com21:30
Blazeixoh, um i should keep up with the backlog...21:31
derekvBlazeix: how did i even not know about this21:43
derekvi like how my current boss is even giving a talk at it21:44
derekvsame talk he's been giving around21:45
derekvok signed up21:50
derekvso much has been going on21:51
derekvgreg-g: elm22:07
snap-ljcastro: Their music is the sound of bar brawls23:25

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