[00:00] <Guest1100101> cronus, found solution: "sudo modprobe dm-mod" after installing lvm - it was missing in the official ubuntu tutorial... tnx
[00:01] <Macer> sigh
[00:01] <Macer> need to get this scanner working :-/
[00:01] <Macer> figured a fujitsu snapscan s1500 would be easy enough
[00:01] <nelyon> macer, is it a laptop?
[00:01] <Macer> nelyon: yes
[00:01] <chris37879> Ok, I have a question, how do I enable colors on the virtual terminals? (CTRL+ALT+F1-6)
[00:02] <dr_willis> a scanner in a laptop?
[00:02] <nelyon> Macer, this seems relevant. http://askubuntu.com/questions/55140/error-during-device-i-o-when-using-usb-scanner
[00:02] <Macer> failed to open device 'fujitsu:ScanSnap S1500:361001'
[00:02] <dr_willis> chris37879:  they should have colors enbabled... its  the apps settings to use them or not
[00:02] <Macer> Error during device i/o
[00:02] <Macer> dr_willis: no
[00:02] <Macer> it is a usb scanner
[00:02] <Macer> attached to to a laptop
[00:02] <_donvito> root@dreambox:/var_init/script> chmod -R 777 inadyn_script.sh
[00:02] <_donvito> chmod: inadyn_script.sh: Read-only file system
[00:02] <chris37879> dr_willis: ls --color does not use colors.
[00:02] <_donvito> why cant i change rights of read only script
[00:03] <chris37879> dr_willis: so where would I start looking?
[00:03] <dr_willis> chris37879:  ttheres a force colors used option. loolk at your alias's  and check your TERM setting
[00:04] <sam113101> ls --color=auto
[00:04] <dr_willis> _donvito:  the Filesystem seems to be mounted read only.
[00:05] <nelyon> Macer, what's the output of lsusb | grep fujitsu
[00:05] <dr_willis> theres also a ls --color=always or force. or somthing.. to make it always try colors
[00:05] <chris37879> dr_willis: apparently it was the force_color_prompt=yes thing... I don't know what that's off by default...
[00:06] <_donvito> dr_willis any solutions
[00:06] <dr_willis> _donvito:  mount the filesystem read/write
[00:06] <_donvito> how
[00:06] <_donvito> i dont know how to do that
[00:07] <dr_willis> _donvito:  and ive never heard of a /var_iinit/ either... so wher is this comming from?
[00:07] <Macer> hm
[00:07] <Macer> laptop mode doesn't seem to be the issue
[00:07] <Macer> sigh
[00:07] <nelyon> Macer, what's the output of lsusb | grep fujitsu
[00:07] <dr_willis> !mount | _donvito
[00:07] <nashant> hi guys I've got an ubuntu VM on a Win7 host, machine with 8Gb ram, VM with 2 of that. For some reason it's running INCREDIBLY slowly. Top isn't showing anything using too much cpu power or ram. Anyone able to help?
[00:08] <Macer> Bus 003 Device 006: ID 04c5:11a2 Fujitsu, Ltd
[00:08] <nahuel_> sorry i need change my name but i dont now how
[00:08] <nahuel_> thanks
[00:08] <Macer> nelyon: i tried running it as root as well
[00:08] <Macer> to make sure it isn't a perm issue
[00:08] <chris37879> Ok, next question... why doesn't gnome-terminal have colors.
[00:08] <nelyon> Macer, try sudo chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/003/006
[00:09] <chris37879> I have syntax highlighting in vi but no colors for ls....
[00:09] <dr_willis> chris37879: check your alias for ls..
[00:09] <dr_willis> it would be an ls setting, or env setting affecting ls
[00:09] <NardtheBard> i have a question. recently an onscreen keyboard started popping up whenever a text box is present. it is NOT the accessibility one, it looks like my computer thinks it's a mobile device
[00:10] <Macer> nelyon: nope
[00:10] <nelyon> sadface
[00:10] <Macer> it sees the scanner and i stil get an io error :-/
[00:10] <Macer> makes no sense
[00:10] <chris37879> dr_willis: ls --color doesn't work here either.
[00:11] <dr_willis> chris37879:  thers a --color=always option  i recall.. checj man ls
[00:12] <dr_willis> alias ls='ls --color=auto' is my defail alias here..   thers other = options
[00:12] <nelyon> Macer, it seems like a lot of people have issues with the sane backend since jaunty. regressing libsane to the jaunty version seems to work for a lot of people
[00:12] <Macer> :-/
[00:12] <Macer> let me try a detailed sane log
[00:12] <Macer> and see exactly what it says
[00:13] <Macer> this sucks. i expected something like this to just work nowadays
[00:13] <Macer> especially with a fully supported sane scanner
[00:13] <aombkappa> streaming audio http://aombk.ath.cx/otr/?page_id=131
[00:14] <dr_willis> alias ls='ls --color=always'   should force colors on.    i imagine you got some other setting set that makes ls decide to not use ccolors.
[00:14] <nelyon> Macer, yeah, literally all i can find as a fix is downgrading libsane
[00:14] <Macer> nelyon: nope. all sane says is "WARNING: Brain-dead scanner. Hitting with stick"
[00:14] <Macer> lol
[00:14] <nelyon> heh
[00:15] <Macer> nelyon: what is the easiest way to do that?
[00:15] <Macer> is there some apt command i can use to get an older ver installed?
[00:15] <Bronze> !USB
[00:16] <nelyon> Macer, it was available on the packages.ubuntu.com site but i can't find it now
[00:16] <nelyon> one sec
[00:16] <Macer> the scanner is the only reason i still have a windows box heh
[00:16] <Macer> i actually got this scanner just because it's better and can work in linux
[00:16] <Macer> apparently not :)
[00:16] <Bronze> both of those URL no longer have web pages . Anyone know what their new address might be? eg os there a general pattern to the new addresses?
[00:17] <Bronze> os/is
[00:17] <dr_willis> dosent  the wiki and help sites have a search featuere?
[00:17] <D_D> hey
[00:17] <nelyon> Macer, you can get the hardy version here. can't find the jaunty version. http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/libsane/download
[00:17] <nelyon> then just dpkg it as you would
[00:18] <Macer> alright
[00:18] <D_D> did anyone had an tutorial to install a good mailserver on ubuntu 10.04
[00:18] <nelyon> of course apt will always tell you it has an update available so it's a bit of a shite workaround
[00:18] <dr_willis> Bronze:  you mean those USB sites? both just worked for me
[00:18] <dr_willis> !pin
[00:19] <Bronze> dr_willis: yeah, me too. but initially both said no dice.
[00:19] <dr_willis> Bronze:  sounds like a dns/server hickup
[00:19]  * Bronze wonders if his DNS is being trapped
[00:19] <Macer> nelyon: lots of dependency errors doing that
[00:21] <nelyon> I'm out of ideas lol.
[00:24] <Macer> ah well
[00:24] <Macer> guess i'll just keep the windows desktop around :-/
[00:24] <Macer> that's quite the let down
[00:24]  * Bronze goes paranoid and starts shooting at "foreign packets" as the come in on the wire....
[00:26] <Macer> yeah. sane is broken :-/
[00:28] <Macer> apt-get install sane-utils/testing
[00:28] <Macer> oops
[00:36] <Sanus> Hello.
[00:37] <ChemicalToilet> Hello Sanus
[00:37] <Sanus> So.  Gallium 0.4 on my GM965/GL960 integrated graphics controller.
[00:37] <Sanus> I'm so confused.
[00:38] <ChemicalToilet> Is this for an nvidia card?
[00:38] <Sanus> It's for my intel chipset.
[00:38] <Macer> blah
[00:38] <ChemicalToilet> Have you tried 'lspci' to see what is reported for your graphics card?
[00:38] <Sanus> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[00:38] <Macer> i give up
[00:38] <Sanus> ^^
[00:38] <Macer> scanning is borked
[00:39] <Macer> ubuntu fail... i mean cmon. it's 2013 :)
[00:39] <Sanus> It seems this is a problem with upgrading to 12.10
[00:39] <Sanus> From 12.04
[00:39] <sevenforall> Greetings
[00:39] <sevenforall> I am using Shutter to handle my screenshots. However, now, it only captures my wallpaper where a window is supposed to be; it doesn't capture the actual window.
[00:39] <sevenforall> Any ideas?
[00:39] <Sanus> Ubuntu's been phasing out older technology faster and faster.  My graphics controller isn't even intel legacy yet.
[00:40] <sevenforall> Same for full-desktop screenshots, that's just my wallpaper.
[00:41] <tapoxi> hey all, is there a good command line way to connect to smb servers? somewhat like a sftp for smb
[00:41] <ChemicalToilet> Sanus, have you tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel?
[00:41] <Sanus> tgIt's already the newest version
[00:42] <Sanus> One moment, I'll be right back
[00:44] <Sanus> Right then, so my current driver is Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301)
[00:44] <Sanus> Buuut it's about 1/10th the speed of old xorg intel driver.
[00:44] <Sanus> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[00:44] <Sanus> is my graphics controller.
[00:45] <Sanus> I thought it might load something different if I started with Unity instead of Gnome 3 Shell... wrong on all accounts.
[00:45] <ChemicalToilet> Sanus, are you still running an xorg.conf file?
[00:45] <Sanus> I don't have a custom xorg.conf file
[00:46] <Sanus> Let me go find mine
[00:46] <Sanus> I can't ever remember how to get to that.
[00:47] <ChemicalToilet> sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[00:47] <ChemicalToilet> That should bring it up
[00:47] <Sanus> danke.  I just inputted the command... but thanks to Unity + this new graphics driver, it's taking time.
[00:48] <Sanus> The file is... blank.
[00:48] <Sanus> So no.
[00:48] <Sanus> I don't have a xorg.conf anymore.
[00:49] <Sanus> Whole desktop is locking up.
[00:49] <Sanus> Trying to load a text file in gedit...
[00:49] <Sanus> well.
[00:49] <Sanus> that's.. awful.
[00:49] <Sanus> I'll be back again, ChemicalToilet please don't go anywhere.
[00:50] <ChemicalToilet> I'll be here
[00:55] <Guest68506> hey everybody, i had for a long time ubuntu 10.04 and evrything was fine with my hard drive and when i switched to 12.04 my hard drive does one kinda loud click on shut down, how can it be that it was fine when i used previous lts and it is still fine with my other distro (i dual boot) but it's not with 12.04 ? is there any explanation to that ?
[00:55] <sevenforall> Anyone on the Shutter issue?
[00:55] <Sanus> Okay.  So now Xorg has a huge CPU tax.
[00:55] <ChemicalToilet> glxgears for me and see what your fps is, just to make sure it's not just a system information issue
[00:56] <ChemicalToilet> Also when you leave are you restrting?
[00:56] <Sanus> The driver's actually set back to intel.
[00:56] <sam113101> Shutter issue?
[00:56] <Sanus> Nautilus is locked up...
[00:56] <Sanus> @ Chemical toilet Yes.
[00:56] <sevenforall> sam113101: Do you know the program 'Shutter', for taking screenshots?
[00:57] <sam113101> no
[00:57] <ChemicalToilet> Guest68506 sounds like a hardware issue, you might need a new hard drive
[00:57] <sevenforall> Alright then
[00:57] <ChemicalToilet> sanus, when restarting are you just holding down poer?
[00:57] <Sanus> I had to this time.
[00:57] <Sanus> It wouldn't do a power cycle.
[00:58] <ChemicalToilet> try holding ctrl + alt+ print sc then r s e i u b
[00:58] <Sanus> My desktop background also randomly brightened a shade?  It's not a cycled shutdown.
[00:58] <ChemicalToilet> that will shut your comp down gently
[00:58] <Guest68506> ChemicalToilet how come that is came out 2 days ago, can it be that my partiotion layout changed ?
[00:58] <sevenforall> Is it possible for GRUB/BURG to never automatically load an OS?
[00:58] <Sanus> Once I closed out of Nautilus, Xorg had amore usual CPU suckage.
[00:59] <Sanus> Although whenever I load anything requiring grahics/3d gnome-shell seems to increase CPU load considerably
[00:59] <ChemicalToilet> Guest68506 this sounds like the click of death, it wouldnt be caused by partitioning
[00:59] <ForSpareParts> Is there a good way to do remote desktop such that it doesn't share the x session of the currently logged in user? My Ubuntu machine is used as a media center, I'd like to be able to do management tasks on it without interrupting playback.
[00:59] <ChemicalToilet> Yeah comiz has been wonly since unity took over
[00:59] <ChemicalToilet> sanus did you try glxgears?
[00:59] <Sanus> And when I load nautilus, there's a short CPU spike... this is frustrating.
[00:59] <Guest68506> ok then thank you ChemicalToilet
[00:59] <Sanus> ChemicalToilet Yes, sorry.  About 60 FPS.
[00:59] <Sanus> But it succeeded.
[01:00] <ChemicalToilet> also the command I just told you on how to shut down, just remember raising skinny elephants is utterly boring
[01:00] <jaake> heya quick question. I have x11vnc running listening on localhost only (via -localhost) but this shows that tcp6 ::::5900 is still open. how do I shut that off ? http://i.imgur.com/94G5ylO.png
[01:00] <ChemicalToilet> sanus, was this 60 fps every 5 seconds?
[01:01] <Sanus> No no, 298-297 every 5 seconds
[01:01] <ChemicalToilet> wow, yeah this is definitely an xorg issue
[01:02] <jaake> nvm I think I found a -no6 option
[01:04] <Sanus> ChemicalToilet I'll look into it more later... thanks for your help today.  :)
[01:04] <Sanus> I've got to go now, I'm afraid
[01:04] <ChemicalToilet> No problem, if it helps download synaptic package manager and serch nvidia then intel to see if you have the correct packages
[01:05] <Macer>  # No USB scanners found.
[01:05] <Macer> wow. makes no sense
[01:05] <Macer> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04c5:11a2 Fujitsu, Ltd
[01:06] <Riley88> macer who are you talking to
[01:06] <Nekura> Has anyone successfully dual booted windows 7 and ubuntu? I'm having troubles in the sense that if I install ubuntu first, windows 7 can't be installed on GPT. However if I install windows first, ubuntu can not detect the windows partition.
[01:07] <dr_willis> 10000's of people do win7 and ubuntu.  ubuntu dosent need to be on a gpt partioned disk.
[01:07] <Riley88> nekura u need to do the opsosit
[01:07] <Riley88> install win7 first then ubuntu
[01:07] <dr_willis> not sure what youmean by detecting the windows partition...  you can install windows to the first part of the hd.. and ubuntu to the unallocated space
[01:08] <Riley88> ive got win8 and 13.04 duel booted right now
[01:09] <Macer> ah well.. windows it is :-/
[01:09] <Macer> lame sauce
[01:09] <Nekura> Ah. So if I just make certain that the ext4 partition is not overwriting the ntfs partition, the data is still there. I think what I mean to ask is how would I then get grub to recognize that both are there.
[01:09] <Macer> need the scanner
[01:09] <Macer> what sucks is i bought the scanner specific for linux
[01:09] <Macer> heh
[01:10] <Macer> going to go back to kubuntu anyways on the laptop. i was just testing out unity. it is kind of a let down
[01:10] <Macer> seems more like if gnome and osx had a love child with its dock on the left
[01:10] <nizor> how can i install corel draw using wine or virtual box? pls help
[01:13] <Nekura> Thanks for the help, I'll try redoing everything and manually adding an entry to grub for windows 7
[01:13] <dr_willis> !appdb | nizor
[01:13] <lunitik> nizor: Have you looked at Inkscape and decided it definitely can't fulfill your needs? I'd really rather not help you installing proprietary things, especially when the open source version is better
[01:14] <dr_willis> wasent there some other vector art app for linux now.. i forget the name.. had a Tiger for a logo/mascot? i dont think it was in the repos. since it was a free/comercial app...
[01:15] <Mdnight> hi i have upgraded my ubuntu 12.04.02.Now i dont have flash in opera.when i try to install it i get flashplugin-installer : Depends: libnspr4-0d but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[01:15] <maxxx123> +r
[01:15] <dr_willis> might have been the linux version was free.. windows version was not.. ;)
[01:15] <anew> how can you search the terminal window ?
[01:15] <anew> shortcut key?
[01:15] <dr_willis> Mdnight:  tried a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade lately?
[01:15] <dr_willis> anew:  search for what?
[01:16] <anew> jsut text on the screen that was printed out
[01:16] <dyan> hi
[01:16] <lunitik> dr_willis: The only other one I know of is Karbon, which is closer actually to Coral Draw, but KDE apps are ugly as sin on Ubuntu
[01:16] <Mdnight> yes i got an error that i need to upgrade and i did
[01:16] <dr_willis> anew:  if its allready been printed... you dont.. you can do    command | less    then use the less (or more)  search functions
[01:16] <lunitik> dr_willis: http://www.calligra-suite.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/karbon-svg-tiger-448x400.png could actually be what you're thinking of though
[01:16] <anew> so i cant ctl+f to search the screen thru what's printed?
[01:16] <anew> like to highlight what is there ...
[01:16] <nizor> dr_willis already downloaded wine but its not installing my corel 13....have error at end
[01:17] <lunitik> nizor: what is the error? If the app isn't supported there is nothing we can do... there is also #winehq
[01:18] <nizor> lunitik "the UI language registration list in invalid"
[01:18] <nizor> lunitik thats the error dr_willis
[01:19] <dr_willis> nizor:  for wine help  see #windhq channel
[01:19] <dr_willis> oops #winehq
[01:19] <jaake> okay so i added -noipv6 to the command args but netstat -natl still show listening on 5900?
[01:20] <dr_willis> lunitik:  yea that looks familer. ;)  i  just toyed with it.. like 2 yrs ago
[01:20] <dr_willis> anew:  that would be a feature of the specific terminal.. and i dont recall seeing any search-the-scrollback feature in any terminal app.. never really looked
[01:21] <anew> bleh
[01:21] <dr_willis> anew:  #bash may know of such a feature
[01:21] <cronus> anew, in gnome terminal try shift+ctl+f
[01:22] <dr_willis> i wonder if screen has that feature. ;)
[01:22] <dr_willis> it seems to have most everything else
[01:25] <Mdnight> anyone knows how to reinstall flash after upgrade on ubuntu 12.04?
[01:26] <sevenforall> So BURG now looks like this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25683105/Pictures/Screenshots/IMG_20130320_022231.jpg <-- Well, I like it like that, but as soon as I choose Ubuntu... I no longer get the Ubuntu splash screen, but I get a whack of terminal data and an ugly partial splash. Is there any way to fix this?
[01:27] <maxxx123> народ скажите где есть рускоязычный канал ?
[01:27] <sevenforall> maxxx123: /j #ubuntu-ru
[01:27] <maxxx123> нету такого
[01:28] <sevenforall> I'm awfully sorry, but most of us, including me, don't quite understand what you're trying to communicate
[01:28] <Ben64> !ru | maxxx123
[01:29] <sevenforall> Ben64: Didn't know of that one
[01:29] <kalenjohnson> sevenforall, how sorry are you? Sorry enough to learn Russian?
[01:29] <sevenforall> kalenjohnson: Well, no.
[01:29] <kalenjohnson> sevenforall, dang
[01:29] <sevenforall> One catchy pick-up line
[01:29] <Ben64> sevenforall: theres almost one for every country code
[01:29] <sevenforall> "For you, I'd be sorry enough to learn Russian."
[01:29] <sevenforall> Ben64: I knew of the channel, just not of the ! command
[01:30] <maxxx123> да в списке каналов вообще нету ru!
[01:31] <dr_willis> i dont even have most of those letters on my keyboard. ;)
[01:31] <sevenforall> maxxx123: Это странно. Ну, вы знаете сейчас! :)
[01:32] <sevenforall> dr_willis: Luckily the Google Translate troll does
[01:32] <Snowie> hi all. Can anyone tell me what is happening with update manager in the unity launcher. There are mulitple posts about. Get a launcher icon but no window. Seems to cause my launcher to 'hang open' etc, meaning the i cant alt tab, hold keyboard focus etc. Any suggestions on permananent fix? it's getting pretty frustrating
[01:33] <w30> maxxx123  да в списке каналов вообще нету ru!
[01:33] <Snowie> example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/161888/how-to-get-the-update-manager-window-visible
[01:33] <h-bomb> i just have to say that ubuntu + virtualbox with win 7 for netflix = AWESOME
[01:33] <h-bomb> :)
[01:34] <w30> maxxx123 Is that Alaskian?
[01:34] <ashleyludlow> anybody got any ideas for an imb thinkpadt41. ibm was a big suppoter of ibs's, and vice verca, im running lubuntu, but she seems sluggish sometime...
[01:34] <dr_willis> h-bomb:  theres a wine thing out now to run netflix in wine... no need for vbox
[01:34] <dr_willis> !netflix
[01:34] <maxxx123> &
[01:34] <maxxx123> ?
[01:34] <ashleyludlow> anybody got any ideas for an imb thinkpadt41. ibm was a big suppoter of ibm's
[01:35] <maxxx123> блин опа полная с русскими что ли))
[01:35] <sevenforall> Is it possible to get BURG/GRUB at 1920x1080?
[01:35]  * dr_willis rereads what ashleyludlow  said... and asks for clarification
[01:35] <Ben64> maxxx123: #ubuntu-ru is the channel you want, this is for english support only
[01:35] <h-bomb> dr_willis, i tried that, i didnt like it
[01:35] <h-bomb> it felt like a dirty solution
[01:35] <dr_willis> h-bomb:  seems to work well for most people.. ive had no issues with it.
[01:36] <maxxx123> плохо что инглиш --а где русских наити?
[01:36] <dr_willis> h-bomb:  and running windows in a virtualmachine is a clean solution? ;P
[01:36] <dr_willis> now if i could get amazon prime working with it..
[01:36] <h-bomb> heh
[01:36] <h-bomb> i also use my vbox for itunes
[01:36] <h-bomb> i gots to have mah itunes
[01:37]  * dr_willis tends to remove itunes and anything apple related when ever it manages to get installed on his windows systems
[01:37] <h-bomb> lol, its my dirty vice, i love ios
[01:38] <h-bomb> i got an ipad mini last month, its so awesome sauce
[01:38]  * dr_willis hangs with his nexus7 - perhaps i will install ubuntu on it this week.
[01:39] <Snowie> Noone else had issues with update manager gui in 12.04?
[01:39] <h-bomb> oooh, yes, that is my next little project as soon as i get some funds for a n7
[01:39] <dr_willis> Snowie:  ive not seen many people mention any issues in here.
[01:39] <sevenforall> I wonder what Shutter thinks it's doing
[01:39] <dr_willis> h-bomb:  for the cost of that mini, you could have bought 2..... but i will get back on topic now...
[01:40] <dr_willis> Snowie:  the apt-get tools from the command line still work?
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> ashleyludlow, When I look on the web for the computer hardware info it states several cpu options and max of 2 gigs ram, what do yours have?
[01:40] <Snowie> dr_willis: hmm, when i googled, there is mild grumbling here and there, but no solid solutions. mostly workarounds, like right click and quit and then open in manually.
[01:40] <sevenforall> Screenshots are black, screengrabs are black. Everything's black. I want my screenshots back.
[01:40] <ashleyludlow> maxx - so i have an ibm t41, and i run lubuntu on it, and its kinda suggish at times, i think its the hdd but at the te same time a usb disk run on iso doesnt do so well either. so make a statement, im an ex-military guym 25u, 25b, 25s, and the old school 96u (uav) guy and i just want my girl to be ready to go to collage..... any advice?
[01:40] <dr_willis> Snowie:  to be honesst.. i rarely use the gui updateer.. about once a week. i do a sudo apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade sort of thing
[01:41] <h-bomb> oh god yeag, apt-get is way better than the gui
[01:41] <h-bomb> i never use the gui
[01:41] <ashleyludlow> and i looked up the rez enviroment on grub, and to what iv seen it only supports 800x and so
[01:41] <Snowie> dr_willis: yeah. i play with packages alot tryong free software so most of the time im updated via the command line as well, but when auto update triggers update manager, shows in the launcher but never get an application window.
[01:41] <ashleyludlow> just tried it on a flat screen destop
[01:42] <Snowie> sevenforall: which desktop environment are you running
[01:42] <dr_willis> ashleyludlow:  i  belive ive seen grub at 1080p res.. but the text was so tiny it was unreadable..
[01:42] <ashleyludlow> i have 4 gigs
[01:42] <sevenforall> Snowie: I'm on Ubuntu atm
[01:42] <sevenforall> Snowie: Eh
[01:42] <ashleyludlow> direct from us army ibm special puchase to soldier
[01:42] <h-bomb> i have my laptop hooked up to my 60in lCD
[01:42] <sevenforall> Snowie: Just the standard
[01:42] <h-bomb> pure awesome
[01:42] <sevenforall> Snowie: Unity, nothing fancy added
[01:43] <ashleyludlow> the army let a lot os signal and commo soldier buy old ibms dirt cheap
[01:43] <bazhang> h-bomb, stay on topic, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:43] <Snowie> ok, so probably unity. yeah, just checking. how are you taking your screen caps?
[01:43] <sevenforall> Snowie: I am using Shutter, which is what's causing trouble
[01:43]  * h-bomb rolls his eyes
[01:43] <sevenforall> Regular screengrabs work fine
[01:43] <sevenforall> Snowie: I'm pretty experienced with Ubuntu btw, don't worry about that ;)
[01:44] <ashleyludlow> dr-will i just booted an old hp desktop with grub and it display (out-put r- 800-x
[01:44] <sevenforall> Snowie: And I am 100% positive that I am running Unity as we speak
[01:44] <Snowie> sevenforall: fair enough. if you just hit prt scr does it work
[01:44] <sevenforall> Snowie: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25683105/Pictures/Screenshots/2013032002%3A44%3A38%28Workspace1%29.png
[01:44] <sevenforall> It used to just show my wallpaper
[01:44] <sevenforall> Now it shows nothing
[01:45] <sevenforall> If I take a screenshot of a window, I just get a black screenshot the size of that window... lol
[01:45] <sevenforall> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25683105/Pictures/Screenshots/2013032002%3A45%3A01%28Screenshots%29.png
[01:45] <ashleyludlow> its an hp destop, with a visio tv/ hdmi output. idk if that helps
[01:45] <sevenforall> Snowie: To be clear, I have a dual screen set-up, hence the width of the first screenshot
[01:46] <bornagain> hi there!
[01:47] <nu> lol
[01:48] <ashleyludlow> anyway to my own problem, so i bought, through goverment purchase, an old ibm t41, and i went to iraq and back, but i installed lubuntu( it had mint before) and she worked great for about 5 months...any ideas
[01:48] <w30> bornagain, eve'n Govern'r
[01:48] <ashleyludlow> wow really
[01:49] <ashleyludlow> iv got that song on my moto lux
[01:49] <AngrySpam98> Can anybody help me ith a ridle?
[01:49] <ashleyludlow> gonna get it now
[01:53] <ashleyludlow> alright spam hit me with it
[01:55] <stram> hi, i seem to have filled up my disk in an ecryptfs filesystem, and now i can't free up any space, whether inside the ecryptfs filesystem, or outside of it. any tips?
[01:55] <philippe> hello, is the Independent repo free software ?
[01:56] <ashleyludlow> stram-https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ECryptfs
[01:58] <stram> ashleyludlow: this is a "deficiency"?
[01:58] <w30> stram, does the superuser have 10% reserved?
[01:58] <w30> stram, maybe do some housekeeping as root?
[01:59] <stram> w30: that's what i'm doing.
[01:59] <ashleyludlow> in my own opinion, connect a usb drive and save you documents to it, it takes work, but worth it. thats what i do..
[01:59] <w30> stram curses, foiled again
[01:59] <stram> this is expected behaviour?!?!?
[01:59] <stram> wtf kind of garbage are you people shipping your OS with
[02:01] <lokiteitor> ola
[02:01] <lokiteitor> hola
[02:01] <ashleyludlow> my old vet document are all i have  to prove i had service to many agancys, so i save them to my ext/dir/ but i set my destinstion that way..
[02:02] <Jordan_U> stram: Please calm down and watch your language. What have you done to try to free up space?
[02:02] <stram> hey Jordan_U go eat a bowl of dick
[02:04] <bornagain> Hi there!
[02:04] <DAL|Phone> So I tried to update to 12.04 and before it rebooted it said something about too many errors, processing stoped.
[02:04] <ashleyludlow> brb
[02:04] <DAL|Phone> It now doesn't see the / partition
[02:07] <DAL|Phone> I have the error: udev[370]: specified group 'colord' unknown
[02:08] <DAL|Phone> Followed by a message that the disk drive for / is not ready, wait, Skip or Manual recovery
[02:08] <DAL|Phone> Any ideas?
[02:11] <w30> Jordan_U, thanks, we don't need that attitude in here.
[02:12] <ner0x> If I'm using ubuntu on a laptop do I really want to use LVM?
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> w30, I love the ignore option, I saw nothing. ;)
[02:13] <ashleyludlow> dal what kind of computer are you useing?
[02:14] <iFlip> Can anyone help with an Ubuntu 10.04 Server edition with an LSI RAID card installed. It is asking me to activate the iSCSI and determine a port of some kind to search for it.
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> DAL|Phone, Did you backup the OS before upgrading?
[02:14] <RobbyF> anyone buy a chromebook and toss ubuntu on it? If so which chromebook
[02:15] <ashleyludlow> robbyf doesnt ubuntu allow in recovery to go back one system update id installed?
[02:15] <vite> how do I create a new sudo user on ubuntu server 12?
[02:16] <RobbyF> I don't think so
[02:16] <DAL|Phone> ashleyludlow Q6600 cpu, intel DG33-TL mobo, 4gb DDR2 ram and 1tb WD Caviar Black hdd.
[02:16] <RobbyF> back a kernal
[02:16] <RobbyF> kernel
[02:16] <DAL|Phone> wilee-nilee unfortunately, no.
[02:17] <ashleyludlow> im unsure abot that, i think that if you installed gurb, and liunx bootloder ( default, un-modified) it will.
[02:17] <Nisstyre> MPD is using ~ 100% of CPU. Google tells me that this can happen because of resampling, but it's happening when there is no music being played, so I'm not sure that's the problem.
[02:17] <Nisstyre> Any other ideas?
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> DAL|Phone, Bummer, you might want to consider looking at clonezilla for full backup. I hate to se people lose stuff, or having to work really hard to fix stuff.
[02:18] <ashleyludlow> dal company of mother manufacture
[02:19] <ashleyludlow> dal i agree with willie, backup
[02:19]  * DAL|Phone frowns, 'Does Ubuntu use EXT4 fs by default?'
[02:20] <ashleyludlow> if no files on system try lower grade install, the do internal update
[02:20] <DAL|Phone> ashleyludlow Intel mobo.
[02:22] <ashleyludlow> dal 8 or 16  cashe?
[02:22] <yebyen> does anyone know the trick to booting a USB stick of ubuntu in a UEFI laptop?  i have an asus
[02:22] <yebyen> and i can't figure out a way to make it try boot from the USB
[02:22] <yebyen> have not tried dvd
[02:22] <yebyen> k56ca
[02:22] <Jordan_U> yebyen: Are you able to get to boot firmware menus/options at all?
[02:23] <yebyen> if i hit escape i get a bios looking menu
[02:23] <yebyen> it allows me to choose between Windows Boot Manager and Enter Setup
[02:23] <DaP> yebyen: i've had to go into bios and set it to boot from usb
[02:23] <yebyen> so far setup seems not helpful
[02:23] <yebyen> there's not any boot from USB option, even with usb connected
[02:23] <yebyen> i was able to disable secure boot
[02:24] <ashleyludlow> dal if you can find a 7.10 install and upgrade opon it, you can create a 12 system..
[02:24] <yebyen> are there laptops now where you just can't?
[02:24] <yebyen> i have 'Add boot option' and 'Select Filesystem' with 'Path for boot option'
[02:24] <Jordan_U> yebyen: OK. Make the bootable USB drive by dding the Ubuntu image to the drive (not through unetbooting or similar programs), then it should show up as an option at boot. (disabling secure boot is not required).
[02:24] <vite> thanks
[02:24] <yebyen> dd if=linux-secure-12.10-64bit.iso of=/dev/sdb
[02:25] <DAL|Phone> ashleyludlow ah. Well I've a root shell and read only mount of the root partition
[02:25] <yebyen> Jordan_U: no help... there is an option to enable usb but not for booting
[02:25] <yebyen> add new boot option always just shows one partition
[02:26] <yebyen> and it's not the USB
[02:26] <Jordan_U> yebyen: This channel only support Ubuntu, and I can tell you that Ubuntu's images are designed to be used this way (I can't say the same for any others). Please try with the official Ubuntu 12.10 media.
[02:26] <yebyen> Jordan_U: this is the recommended image from the UEFI document
[02:26] <yebyen> Jordan_U: just use a regular 12.10 media for 64 bit?
[02:26] <yebyen> i followed all of the giant "Windows 8 computer?" links
[02:26] <Jordan_U> yebyen: Yes.
[02:27] <ashleyludlow> tdal type startx
[02:27] <yebyen> Jordan_U: why do they have that clickbait if it's wrong :)
[02:27] <ashleyludlow> tdal type startx?
[02:28] <yebyen> Jordan_U: i think i will have to send this machine back for '2' key which has no spring
[02:28] <yebyen> Jordan_U: may get a different one if it can't boot from a USB
[02:28] <ashleyludlow>  does it display x or error, you may see white screens
[02:29] <DAL|Phone> ashleyludlow it fails because X can't open the lock files due to /tmp being Read Only
[02:29] <ashleyludlow> reinstall
[02:30] <ashleyludlow> you have no x, and ( anyone correct me) but x is default display on all systems nowdays
[02:30] <DAL|Phone> Yup
[02:32] <ashleyludlow> if you have file on the system, try a friends( or room-mate-syster..) and downlod dsl (damm small liux) and you can see files on the hdd, save them to exterinal and retry reinsall, upgrade with out sudo-apt..
[02:33] <ashleyludlow> dal- you can use unetbootin on linux,mac,windows nowdays, and lood dsl on a flash, just make sure you set the ubuntu only valye to 256 mb
[02:34] <Jordan_U> yebyen: I'd be very surprised to find that your laptop simply can't boot from USB at all.
[02:34] <yebyen> I would too, but I've never received a windows 8 machine before
[02:35] <yebyen> i simply don't know anything about EFI
[02:35] <yebyen> the manual just doesn't mention it
[02:35] <yebyen> i learned F9 key just now reading, but I think that's for system restore
[02:36] <DAL|Phone> ashleyludlow thanks
[02:36] <yebyen> ESC seems the most logical place
[02:36] <yebyen> since it presents a boot menu
[02:36] <JamesGatz> i'm on 12.10 - is it possible to set up rotating images on my background, and while the screen saver is active?
[02:36] <yebyen> but what good is a menu that only allows you to boot Windows :x
[02:36] <ashleyludlow> sorry bro, but you may have to start over, but thats what i whould do, if i had no files on the system, if i did, i whould use another computer, downloadload dsl) damm small linux) (50 mb max) on a 2gig thumb drive, and boot from flash hdd in your bios, attach ext drive, and save files, and of course, start over at your last known system
[02:37] <ashleyludlow> dal has this helped you?
[02:38] <yebyen> ohh F9 may be the trick
[02:41] <DAL|Phone> ashleyludlow not in the way I hoped, yet I thought I'd have to reinstall before I came here
[02:41] <ashleyludlow> do you need help installing?
[02:45] <Fede> .
[02:45] <DAL|Phone> Nah. I used to do 2nd stage Gentoo installs.
[02:46] <Jordan_U> yebyen: The page says "Create a LiveDVD or LiveUSB of Linux-Secure-Remix 64bit or of Ubuntu (>=12.04.2) 64bit.", so for versions of Ubuntu >=12.04.2 normal images work.
[02:46] <jsumners> I'm used to adding something to /etc/inittab. What do I need to do in Ubuntu to replicate this?
[02:46] <Jordan_U> jsumners: What are you trying to accomplish?
[02:46] <dr_willis> !inittab
[02:46] <ashleyludlow> dal you can look me up on launcgpad, just create a login and you can view my email at my launchpad ( just google phillip ludlow launchpad)
[02:47] <jsumners> Jordan_U, I have a pam login module I wrote that I use to autologin my HTPC. I usually set it to respawn on the run level I choose for X
[02:48] <DAL|Phone> Cool
[02:49] <ashleyludlow> dal, do as you feel, gentoo's good, ubuntu's better. at least as a basic user. untill till you get the hang og linux.
[02:49] <jsumners> dr_willis, I've been there. It doesn't tell me how to replicate something that was quite easy with inittab
[02:50] <dr_willis> jsumners:   the upstart cookbook may give some info. or twll the channel what you are doing in inittab and someone may know in here.
[02:50] <f00dMonsta> wobbly windows! weeeee
[02:50] <dr_willis> f00dMonsta:  those made my wife puke.. ;)
[02:50] <f00dMonsta> i love them :P
[02:50] <jsumners> dr_willis, I have a pam login module I wrote that I use to autologin my HTPC. I usually set it to respawn on the run level I choose for X
[02:51] <dr_willis> jsumners:  I dont use pam.. but if you want to auto login to a X session.. lightdm has that feature
[02:51] <f00dMonsta> i guess i'm back with ubuntu
[02:52] <jsumners> I just want to run my program when the system is in a state to launch X
[02:52] <ashleyludlow> dal?
[02:52] <dr_willis> jsumners:   'in a state to launch x'  means what?
[02:53] <jsumners> omg
[02:53] <w30> I have gnome-screensaver installed; How do I set it up?
[02:53] <jsumners> When the damn login prompt would otherwise be shown
[02:53] <dr_willis> jsumners:  so you want somt hing to run  from the X login display manager screen? befor or after the user actually logis in?
[02:54] <jsumners> dr_willis, no. My program is essentially a login display manager
[02:54] <dr_willis> jsumners:  so you are basically replaceing lightdm as the default login  manager?
[02:55] <jsumners> I just want to replicate "5:1:respawn:/usr/local/bin/foo"
[02:55] <kalenjohnson> Has anyone seen an espresso-libre ish color scheme for the terminal?
[02:55] <dr_willis> make a upstart .conf file to spawn it then if thats all you want..  but ubuntu dosent really use runlevels.. so you will need to define when you need it to run
[02:57] <w30> How do I configure the gnome-screensaver?
[02:58] <dr_willis> w30:  configure what part of it? last i look the gnome-devs have basically removed all optiuons to their screensavers.
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> w30, Xscreensaver is what I seen suggested most often. http://www.howtogeek.com/114027/how-to-add-screensavers-to-ubuntu-12.04/
[02:59] <apnesh> hi
[02:59] <dr_willis> w30:  yea. if you want more customiuzeable screensavers  you will want to use xscreensavers as stated above
[03:00] <w30> dr_willis, that seems to be what is on my box---- nothing to set
[03:00] <Guest16239> hello, is there something wrong with dwell click on ubuntu 11.04?
[03:00] <dr_willis> !11.04
[03:00] <dr_willis> Guest16239:  time to upgrade to a newer release.
[03:00] <apnesh> hey can you tell connection details
[03:01] <w30> dr_willis, I can and will do that, thank you
[03:01] <apnesh> hey can you tell connection details of ubuntu on air
[03:01] <Guest16239> dr_willis , sorry , that doesnt answer my question
[03:02] <dr_willis> Guest16239:  your release is end of life. and no longer supported.  plus your question was a little vague
[03:03] <IdleOne> 11.04 is no longer supported, even if the question was specific it would still not be supported.
[03:03] <lalondong> guys can i ask for some help
[03:03] <Guest16239> dr_willis , i can t get dwell click to work
[03:04] <lalondong> i'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, i've installed lamp server, i'm trying to make another symbolic link on home/src to localhost /var/www - > but when i make another one it says link broken on my /var/www
[03:05] <lalondong> any help
[03:06] <Fede> someone know backtrack irc chanel?
[03:07] <IdleOne> !backtrack
[03:07] <yebyen> Jordan_U: i got my boot menu to mention the USB exactly once, and by the time it loaded the stick was unplugged already...
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> #backtrack
[03:07] <yebyen> Jordan_U: I have no idea how to go about booting from USB.
[03:08] <Fede> thanks
[03:09] <alainus> since I got Ubuntu, I've installed several software that I don't really use, and there are things that I don't use that come installed by default. What's the best way to clean up an installation ?
[03:09] <yebyen> Jordan_U: tried a different stick and it seems to have made all the difference... luckily it was already loaded with ubuntu 12.10 for amd64
[03:10] <yebyen> Jordan_U: thanks for reassuring me
[03:10] <pvl1> alainus, synaptic package manager
[03:10] <dr_willis> alainus:  use the package manager tools to uninstall stuff..
[03:10] <yebyen> it still doesn't work, but at least i get a grub menu ^_^
[03:11] <dr_willis> yebyen:  clafity what 'dosent work' about it
[03:11] <yebyen> "Try ubuntu" --- OK... wait
[03:11] <yebyen> no activity
[03:12] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 might show some text info with errors..
[03:12] <dr_willis> or it could be the system dosent like your video cards
[03:12] <yebyen> ah
[03:14] <yebyen> dr_willis: the only graphics options in bios are 'dvmt pre-allocated'
[03:14] <dr_willis> yebyen:  and your video chipset is what?
[03:15] <yebyen> it must be something intel
[03:15] <yebyen> asus k56ca
[03:15] <yebyen> intel hd 4000
[03:16] <yebyen> nomodeset?
[03:16] <backbox_> can you get help here
[03:17] <yebyen> you can try ^_^
[03:17] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[03:19] <yebyen> dr_willis: know anything about intel hd 4000?
[03:26] <freddykrueger> Hi, good morning :) i have a little problem with ubuntu server 12.04.02 i have install a DNS server the problem is my Router have a DNS Support is that a problem no or ?
[03:27] <ejv> freddykrueger: you tell your client what DNS to use.
[03:35] <urlwolf> compiz settings forgets my settings when I reboot. Is this a known bug? workaround?
[03:39] <DAL|Phone> Hmmm... My /etc/mime.types file's been changed? Should I use the... file from 2010? I think no?
[03:41] <Sargun> Can I get the raring ringtail kernel for my precise box?
[03:42] <DAL|Phone> Ah! This is what the WM uses to figure out file types... guess I should merge it...
[03:42] <mephisto> hi guys!
[03:42] <sevard> Hello fellas.  Where can I find backported packages?  I have to support a really old distro while my teammates catch up.  I need python 2.6 running on ubuntu 8.04.
[03:42] <mephisto> I've did a fresh install and now the mouse and keyboard don't work :(
[03:43] <mephisto> the driver is loaded correctly, no errors in xorg log
[03:43] <michael87> hi I'm having a bit of a problem. I want to emulate n64 games on my ubuntu since I just switched from windows 7 and mint (unfortunately kde is having issues with my laptop)
[03:43] <michael87> bit bummed that project64 does not have a linux version
[03:44] <DAL|Phone> Hello mephisto. Ack. On the bright side, your update didn't bork mounting / like mine did
[03:44] <michael87> I'm tryying to install mupen64 but I only get tar files and the ppa is having issues. please help
[03:45] <mephisto> DAL|Phone, man xorg is just dreadful
[03:45] <Sprocks> can anyone help me with "ecryptfs_encrypt_page: Error attempting to write lower page; rc = [-5]"
[03:46] <DAL|Phone> mephisto try it with a freebsd kernel. Then tell me how horrid it is
[03:46] <mephisto> DAL|Phone, never touched a freebsd kernel before but now that I know it, I won't dare!
[03:48] <DAL|Phone> mephisto I've heard they're slow and don't have any nice interupts to make the system respond nicely
[03:49] <yebyen> hell maybe i can boot this system from a CD rather than USB
[03:49] <yebyen> it detects the EFI image just fine in this USB stick (better than the last one)
[03:50] <yebyen> it's faster burning a dvd than writing the stick out again
[03:53] <BloodHammer> The BloodHammer thirsts for the souls of the innocent.
[03:53] <skp1_> haha
[03:54] <k-man> my desktop seems to be missing any way of logging out
[03:54] <k-man> any ideas how i can log out?
[03:54] <skp1_> ctrl-alt-del
[03:54] <BloodHammer> Only if you sate the lust of the BloodHammer.
[03:54] <k-man> BloodHammer, thanks
[03:54] <k-man> oops, i mean skp1_, thanks
[03:55] <k-man> is that the only way>
[03:55] <k-man> i just find it a little strange that there is no logout button
[03:55] <michael87> I hope project64 will play fine with playonlinux. I heard mupen64 doesn't use stretch or fullscreen support. Sounds lame. I just want to play some n64 games since I gave up most pc games for my laptop
[03:55] <skp1_> k-man, what DE are you using
[03:56] <yebyen> ok, it works from boot CD
[03:56] <yebyen> i can do my job now
[03:56] <yebyen> excellent
[03:56] <k-man> skp1_, not sure - this is a system sent to me to demo some software. i'm very familiar with debian, but quite lost in ubuntu
[03:57] <skp1_> k-man, is there a panel at the topof your screen?
[03:57] <BloodHammer> Yo. Where all the white women at?
[03:57] <skp1_> k-man can you paste a screenshot?
[03:57] <k-man> skp1_, maybe hang on
[03:58] <k-man> yes, pannel at top of screen, and also at bottom
[03:58] <skp1_> sounds loike xfce4 or lxde
[03:59] <skp1_> you might have to right click on the panel and choose
[03:59] <skp1_> 'add items' then select logout button
[03:59] <k-man> ill focus on getting a screenshot out - hang on
[03:59] <skp1_> k
[04:00] <noobie_tues> hello all, I did a fresh install of ubuntu on a dell inspiron, after hours and hours of reading forums and trying different things I am now coming here...please help
[04:00] <noobie_tues> the wifi aint werkin
[04:01] <noobie_tues> * hello all, I did a fresh install of ubuntu on a dell inspiron, after hours and hours of reading forums and trying different things I am now coming here...please help the wifi aint werkin
[04:05] <k-man> skp1_, https://monosnap.com/image/JnwKiWQgZvrkTOvMEziV3Bclp
[04:05] <k-man> does that url work?
[04:05] <skp1_> yeah. that's gnome classic
[04:05] <k-man> ok, thanks for helping me identify it :)
[04:05] <skp1_> if you click on your username in the right hand corner of the scree you should be presented with an option to logout or restart your computer
[04:06] <k-man> skp1_, thanks! i have no idea how i missed that before, I'm sure I looked there
[04:06] <k-man> anyway, there you go, thanks skp1_
[04:06] <skp1_> np
[04:06] <lalondong> guys, are lamp good for ubuntu?
[04:06] <lalondong> or do i have to use another web server package?
[04:07] <tadpole> lamp is good
[04:07] <lalondong> and what you recomended?
[04:07] <tadpole> lamp is the standard
[04:07] <somsip> lalondong: lamp is fine, but I'd recommend installing the components separately
[04:07] <kalenjohnson> lamp just stands for linux-apache-mysql-php
[04:07] <kalenjohnson> so if you isntall those things and connect the, you have a lamp stack :)
[04:07]  * cjfs twitches
[04:08] <yebyen> and i am booted into ubuntu
[04:08] <yebyen> and making images of my win8 disks
[04:08] <yebyen> woop
[04:08] <lalondong> but i always have these issue about Forbidden access. when i just change or added new file to the my project
[04:08] <cjfs> images...?
[04:08] <yebyen> cjfs: dd|xz|nc
[04:08] <cjfs> why would you make more of that?
[04:08] <cjfs> oh
[04:09] <tadpole> lalondong, Make sure your user is added the the www group
[04:09] <yebyen> cjfs: so they can be safely wiped, of course
[04:09] <cjfs> you should just melt them down
[04:09] <cjfs> the bits are already tainted
[04:09] <lalondong> tadpole : how to do that?
[04:09] <somsip> lalondong: usually you will create a file and only you will be able to see it. Apache requires the file can be read by user 'www-data'. And that the directory is readable by the same user
[04:09] <somsip> !permissions | lalondong
[04:09] <tadpole> adduser username www-data
[04:10] <yebyen> is it terribly unusual for xz files to be exactly 256 or 512 mb or kb until they need a larger file size
[04:10] <tadpole> sudo adduser username www-data
[04:10] <tadpole> rather
[04:10] <yebyen> it seems odd to me
[04:10] <yebyen> but they seem to be making progress
[04:11] <lalondong> how to do this !permissions | lalondong ?
[04:11] <lalondong> just type it on terminal?
[04:11] <somsip> lalondong: read the link in message from ubottu to find out more about permissions
[04:17] <Noctifer> as far as i understand both metacity and compiz do the same thing? can i uninstall one? im under 12.10
[04:17] <Noctifer> and which of them am i actually using?
[04:22] <starbuck> i have installed a new system and the sound is not working, lspci or dmesg doesnt even find the soundcard, it's a alc655 onboard chip
[04:22] <starbuck> any ideas?
[04:26] <nikkiheat1> I'm trying to run <$ sudo service networking restart> while I'm ssh'd into my box but it isn't letting me. I'm assuming its because i'm ssh'd in. How do I do this without restarting my server? (heh)
[04:29] <Ben64> nikkiheat1: you can restart networking while ssh is active
[04:30] <tadpole>  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:30] <nikkiheat1> well it isn't letting me...
[04:30] <nikkiheat1> :(
[04:30] <nikkiheat1> I'm doing something wrong.
[04:30] <tadpole> ^
[04:31] <tadpole> I think there is a sudo service networking force-reload option too
[04:31] <nikkiheat1> I tried using init.d and its letting me know that the interface is in use (i don't have the exact error on hand)
[04:31] <nikkiheat1> i'll have to try that.
[04:31] <nikkiheat1> thanks
[04:32] <dr_willis> Noctifer:  id leave stuff installed unless you are really short on hd space...
[04:32] <tadpole> nikkiheat1, Or try this  one liner  /etc/init.d/networking stop; /etc/init.d/networking start
[04:35] <Noctifer> dr_willis: if i was not short on space then i wouldnt try :D
[04:35] <dr_willis> Noctifer:  remove libreoffice  that will be like 200+mb
[04:35] <Noctifer> dr_willis: the trivial stuff is already gone from java to office to old kernel headers and what not
[04:36] <dr_willis> and how big is this HD?
[04:36] <Noctifer> dr_willis: 3gb
[04:37] <dr_willis> and why are we using this tiny of a hd? and tryoing to shoehorn ubuntu onto it? ;)
[04:38] <dr_willis> tinycorelinux = 35mb... with a X desktop.
[04:38] <Noctifer> the question was simply - can i determine if either metacity or compiz is used and can i remove one of them
[04:38] <dr_willis> compiz gives you the fancy 3d Desktop effects. metacity is the older 2d desktop
[04:38] <dr_willis> so either could be used.. depending on whata login option you selected
[04:39] <Noctifer> so both are used, metacity in doubt if the system has to be maintained or a graphic driver messes up
[04:39] <dr_willis> if you really wanted to trim down on space.. remove both and use jwm  but then you will hqve a very very basic window manager.
[04:39] <Noctifer> i guess then this is something that should be kept
[04:49] <BigWig> Somebody please help me: I installed the AMD drivers off of the website, they were .sh files. How do I uninstall them?
[04:51] <nonuby> is term any unity friendly gui irc clients, that will sit in tray on close (without requiring whitelisting hacks etc.)
[04:52] <dr_willis> BigWig:  you might be able to rerun the .sh installer and there MIGHT be a --uninstall option or some other option to tell them to remove the stuff
[05:11] <michael87> Please I need help. I installed project64 via winetricks and it stops working when tryying to play zelda majora's mask all of the sudden. Has anyone come across this issue on playonlinux?
[05:12] <Ben64> we can't support wine or playonlinux here, you can try #winehq, but I don't think they like playonlinux either. why not use a linux native emulator?
[05:12] <c|oneman> lol
[05:12] <raj> why is there no sprunge tutorial?
[05:13] <michael87> Ben64, I tried installing mupen64 but no gui its all in command line. Frustrating
[05:13] <raj> c|oneman, you made it to freenode, welcome
[05:13] <Ben64> raj: http://sprunge.us
[05:13] <danny> hello Folks I lost my Bluetooth Indicator in the top paned ubuntu 12.10 after update how do i get it back
[05:13] <c|oneman> who are you, how you know me
[05:14] <raj> Ben64, is sprunge the most popular method these days?
[05:15] <Ben64> raj: dunno, i don't keep those stats
[05:15] <raj> do you use sprunge?
[05:16] <Ben64> do you have an ubuntu question
[05:16] <raj> yes, is sprunge a highly used package on ubuntu?
[05:16] <michael87> Ben64, I tried installing mupen64 but no gui its all in command line. Frustrating
[05:17] <Ben64> raj: that is not an ubuntu question, you can talk about sprunge if you'd like in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:17] <danny> ben64 i have a ubuntu question
[05:18] <Jordan_U> raj: Sprunge is not an Ubuntu package. Sprunge is a web service accessible via curl.
[05:18] <[Saint]> is 'sync' hanging in 13.04 a known bug - if not, any idea on debug/resolution?
[05:18] <raj> oh, didn't realize that
[05:18] <danny> Ben64: I am new to Ubuntu running 12.10 after a update ran i lost Bluetooth  Icon in top panel
[05:18] <raj> thanks Jordan_U
[05:18] <Jordan_U> [Saint]: #ubuntu+1 for 13.04
[05:18] <Jordan_U> raj: You're welcome.
[05:18] <raj> ok, that makes more sense now
[05:19] <Jordan_U> raj: You'd probably prefer pastebinit, which *is* an Ubuntu package.
[05:19] <michael87> Ben64, I have mupen64 installed but not gui only command line. is there anything I can do just to open the program XD
[05:19] <Jordan_U> !pastebinit | raj
[05:19] <raj> Jordan_U, I saw some deprecation warninga bout pastebinit
[05:19] <Ben64> michael87: why do you need a gui?
[05:19] <Jordan_U> michael87: mupen64 /path/to/game.n54
[05:20] <Jordan_U> s/mupen64/mupen64plus/ s/54/64/
[05:20] <velyk_bimbo69> ?
[05:20] <raj> which is why I started looking for alternatives
[05:21] <dr_willis> the pastebinit command can use other paste sites. it has settings/options.
[05:22] <michael87> Ben64, I did that and nothing but a stupid > symbol
[05:22] <Ben64> michael87: pastebin it maybe?
[05:22] <dr_willis> michael87:  > is the shell asking for more input.. as if you entered a single quote or " and never finished the line
[05:23] <Jordan_U> michael87: What is the exact command you ran? (I'm guessing you have a quote in there that you didn't intend)
[05:23] <dr_willis> michael87:  what was the exact command line you used
[05:23] <nocturnal_> i upgraded from Lucid to Precise and now my desktop wont boot. Im running an HP Pavillion dv6000 notebook. Is there a way I can see why its freezing?
[05:23] <michael87> http://pastebin.com/07D6wvrm
[05:24] <dr_willis> nocturnal_:  what is it doing exactly..  'wont boot''  can be interperted differnt ways
[05:24] <michael87> there's the pastebin
[05:24] <nocturnal_> dr_willis: it gets to the ubuntu load screen and stops after 2 of the 5 circles light up.
[05:24] <michael87> seroiusly why is EVERYTHING so complicated on linux. ubuntu's unity looks and runs so promisingly but it takes hours for me to figure out anything
[05:24] <Ben64> michael87: you should use <TAB> to have it fill in the name properly
[05:25] <Ben64> all the unescaped spaces and command and whatnot are messing it up
[05:25] <dr_willis> nocturnal_:   try the  'nosplash noquiet' options to get it to print messages and hide the plumouth splash. or try the 'text' option to see if you can get to the console
[05:25] <nocturnal_> dr_willis: and for some reason my grub has be replaced with something else
[05:25]  * dr_willis wonders what unity has to do with proper use of the shell in michael87 's statement
[05:26] <dr_willis> nocturnal_:  im not sure what else could be replaceing grub.. so you may need to be more specific
[05:26] <nocturnal_> i think i installed lucid as a wubi install and then reinstalled windows and after that grub was gone
[05:27] <dr_willis> nocturnal_:  wubi installs to a file INSIDE windows.. if you reinstalled windows.. i dont see how the wubi install survived at atll
[05:27] <nocturnal_> my grub has been replaced by windows boot manager
[05:28] <Jordan_U> michael87: The problem is that you're not properly escaping the single quote in "Majora's Mask".
[05:28] <IdleOne> nocturnal_: that would be exepected when you reinstall windows
[05:28] <dr_willis> michael87:  may be easier to just rename that file to remove the '
[05:29] <dr_willis> use of spaces and quote marks in file names... can be really annoying.
[05:29] <Jordan_U> michael87: There are multiple front ends for Mupen64plus as well, though I've never tried them.
[05:29] <Jordan_U> michael87: (GUI front ends)
[05:29] <nocturnal_> IdleOne: so would i have to use a livecd and replace it with grub? then try to fix the load error?
[05:30] <IdleOne> nocturnal_: if you formated the drive your wubi install is also gone.
[05:30] <dr_willis> nocturnal_:   are you SURE you did a wubi install and not a normal install? you could boot a live cd and look for linux partitions if unsure
[05:30] <IdleOne> I'm guessing that is what you did seeing how windows boot loader got installed
[05:31] <nocturnal_> IdleOne: maybe it wasnt a wubi install then. maybe it was just a regular dvd install
[05:31] <IdleOne> nocturnal_: so do like dr_willis suggested and boot a live cd/usb
[05:31] <Jordan_U> nocturnal_: If you could boot from a LiveDVD/USB, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces it would make things much more clear.
[05:32] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | nocturnal_
[05:34] <Ben64> heh, games look cool with 16XAA http://2.ben64.com/random_junk/mario64.png
[05:34] <IdleOne> Ben64: !ot
[05:34] <IdleOne> :)
[05:35] <michael87> this is all a humonguous headache. I am not a programmer I am just a power user. I left windows to experiment with linux thinking hey I might not have pc games but I can at least emulate and take advantage of my laptops hardware. boy am I agravated about this. Mostly with project64 for not making a linux version XD
[05:36] <IdleOne> michael87: Don't let it beat you, gets easier.
[05:37] <michael87> IdleOne, if you say so. to many unnecessary work arounds. and its very rough when I don't get an answer when I need it most of the time from xchat here on the ubuntu channel :(
[05:40] <kalenjohnson> michael87, this is an unbuntu channel though, not an emulation channel
[05:40] <Capprentice> I have a 7.35 GB of SWAP but it is showing as 9.30 GB ! why ? Is this normal ?
[05:40] <raj> Jordan_U, are sprunge pastes permanent?
[05:40] <Capprentice> Im on ubuntu 12.04
[05:41] <Jordan_U> Capprentice: Where are you seeing these values?
[05:41] <Capprentice> In conky.
[05:41] <Capprentice> And also in System Monitor !
[05:42] <Jordan_U> raj: I have no idea.
[05:42] <raj> do you use pastebinit instead?
[05:43] <Capprentice> jordan_U, Im seeing those values in System Monitor and in CONKY.
[05:43] <Jordan_U> Capprentice: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "swapon --show".
[05:44] <wilmax> hello all!
[05:46] <Capprentice> jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5630357/
[05:46] <Capprentice> swapon --show is not giving anything.
[05:46] <michael87> kalenjohnson, I understand. But I am frusted that mupen is all I can find in the ubuntu store. and no gui.
[05:47] <michael87> btw who ever said that there where gui's for mupen I installed one and it is not opening. sad
[05:48] <Capprentice> jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5630359/
[05:48] <kalenjohnson> michael87, I haven't done any emulation for a few years, but just because it isn't in the ubuntu store doesn't mean it doesn't exist on Linux. Have you checked the websites?
[05:49] <wilmax> I have a corrupted HDD. last night my files went invisible gradually, and now even the hard drive isnt shown on file manager
[05:50] <wilmax> testdisk gives read error for the whole disk
[05:50] <Capprentice> ?????
[05:50] <dr_willis> wilmax:  might be time to resort to 'ddrescue' to try to image the hd to a file on a differnt  hd. then recover
[05:50] <michael87> kalenjohnson, I'm looking. Its tough becuase I was used to project64 on windows. again I'm on linux experimenting and learning. I have playyed around with ubuntu and linux mint for almost 2 years and always unfortunately wound up going back to windows. Even though I like windows 7 I am waiting for open source to become more and more user friendly. But even with ubuntu its a pain most of the time
[05:50] <dr_willis> michael87:  many of the windows emulators can work on linux with wine
[05:50] <wilmax> thankfully, I had the most important files and folders intact
[05:50] <wilmax> thanks to a backup a while ago
[05:51] <Capprentice> I have a 7.35 GB of SWAP but it is showing as 9.30 GB ! why ? Is this normal ? Can anyone explain a bit ?
[05:51] <Capprentice> please :)
[05:51] <wilmax> but there are others that I'd love to save
[05:51] <kalenjohnson> michael87, I was the same one, I first tried ubuntu back in 2008. It's also true that when you're new things seem to just.... not work. It takes some time to get used to a completely different and much more customizable OS. Stick with it a bit though and it'll get easier
[05:51] <kalenjohnson> ls
[05:51] <michael87> dr_willis, I tried that. project64 freezes mid game :(. It starts up and runs at 60 frames a ok then slows down to 15 frames and then absolutely nothing. sad
[05:51] <kalenjohnson> whoops, this isn't my terminal
[05:52] <wilmax> i read of gddrescue, in my case this seems to be the tool to use, is that right?
[05:52] <dr_willis> !info mupen64plus
[05:52] <dr_willis> Hmm. that 'plus' is supposed to be a console based front end. Never used it.
[05:53] <dr_willis> I used to use emulators a lot.. but i cant say ive really done N64 emulators.. I have a real N64 from a rummage sale.. i think ive hooked it up like twice
[05:53] <michael87> ubottu, Installed all that and still having issue's setting it up
[05:54] <kalenjohnson> poor ubottu, only does what he's told
[05:54] <dr_willis> i do all my emulation on my android devices these days
[05:55] <wilmax> anyone knowing about gddrescue?
[05:55] <dr_willis> !info m64py
[05:55] <dr_willis> wilmax:  i  use 'ddrescue' its homepage gives example ussage
[05:55] <michael87> I emulate gameboy on my phone. playstation one on my psp. I thought I could use my laptop for the good n64 games for light gaming of older favorite titles. Like zelda or mario. I was comfortable leaving windows figuring I can easily emulate that on ubuntu. and boy is it suddenly a pain :(
[05:56] <dr_willis> wilmax:  took me 2 weeks to recover a 2tb usb hd ;)
[05:56] <Jordan_U> wilmax: dr_willis: You definitely want to use GNU ddrescue, dd_rescue is highly inferior.
[05:56] <dr_willis> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_Applications/Games/Emulators     mentions a mupen gui  - m64py   written in python
[05:56] <rypervenche> dr_willis: I use ddrescue a lot, the GNU version. :)
[05:57] <dr_willis> dont think ive ever used dd_rescue  just ddrescue
[05:57] <dr_willis> whats sad.. i rescued the hd... then the silly hd started WORKING... ;)
[05:57] <kalenjohnson> Mupen64 page - Features: Rumble Pak support (Linux only)
[05:57] <wilmax> yeah, ubuntu documentation recommends gddrescue, too. I have a 100gb partition on a 250gb drive, so it should take less than a day, then? :)
[05:57] <dr_willis> THE DD WORKOUT MUST HAVE  SHOWED IT WHOS BOSS.
[05:57] <kalenjohnson> Go Linux!
[05:57] <dr_willis> OOPS. :)
[05:57] <dr_willis> silly keyboard
[05:58] <dr_willis> !infoddrescue
[05:58] <dr_willis> !info ddrescue
[05:58] <Capprentice> khapachoda.
[05:58] <dr_willis> !find ddrescue
[05:58] <dr_willis> heh..  i call it ddrescue because thats the binarys name. ;)  package name differs
[05:58] <kalenjohnson> michael87, Have you tried here? https://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/
[05:59] <michael87> kalenjohnson, yup. And it is in the form of a tar. file over a deb file. pain in the ass. Don't know how to install that
[05:59] <kalenjohnson> michael87, this is part of the learning process :)
[06:00] <michael87> kalenjohnson, I am always lost with tar and command lines seriously
[06:00] <dr_willis> http://sourceforge.net/projects/m64py/files/m64py-0.1.0/m64py_0.1.0-2_all.deb/download
[06:00] <kalenjohnson> michael87, tar is not really any different from a zip. It's a container
[06:00] <wilmax> I am going to use it for the first time, and this tool is a bit more advanced than others I used
[06:01] <kalenjohnson> michael87, if it's a .deb, you should be able to open it and it should install through the Ubuntu Software center program. If it's a .sh, then just run that file. I downloaded the 32-bit .tar and it contains an install.sh
[06:01] <wilmax> for ex. in this command ; ddrescue [options] infile outfile [logfile]
[06:01] <wilmax> what are infile and outfile?
[06:01] <dr_willis> wilmax:  ddrescue is fairly easy to use.. just rember to give it a log file name to use.. and  have patience
[06:01] <dr_willis> infile would be the /dev//sda1  or whatever devicename
[06:01] <wilmax> which one is the logfile name? these kinds of things are unknown to me
[06:01] <michael87> dr_willis, thank you. But I did that and after installing the program won't open.
[06:01] <dr_willis> outfilke would be to some file ON A DIFFERENT hard drive/partition
[06:02] <dr_willis> michael87:  run from terminal look for error messages..
[06:02] <dr_willis> wilmax:  make a logfile name... call it logfile  ;) or whaever you want.. the gdd rescue homepage gives examples
[06:03] <dr_willis> ddrescue /dev/sda1  /media/backupdisk/sda1.image /media/backkupdisk/logfile.for.sda1
[06:03] <BigWig> if you add a repository that has a more recent version of a package and you update it, does that package get replaced with the updated version?
[06:03] <dr_willis> BigWig:  it should.
[06:04] <fuzzwaltz> hello, using 12.04, flash video just displays a black box, no video or audio, I do have the flash plugin installed... any ideas to help troublshoot this?
[06:04] <roasted> hello!
[06:05] <wilmax> so I will create two files on my backupdisk, one of which is named sth like sda1.image, and other is logfile
[06:05] <michael87> I'm tired of wrapping my head around this. I'm just going to google like crazy and cross my fingers. thank you
[06:05] <dr_willis> wilmax:  yes. then later  you can resume the recovery via giveing the same logfile/command line..
[06:06] <dr_willis> wilmax:  thats a major major aswome feature of ddrescue. ;) it can resume.. and try over and the log keeps it sane and saves time
[06:06] <roasted> Question - I noticed in Gnome Shell that the Applications menu is gone, and instead it's an icon at the bottom of the dock on the left side. Is there by chance a shortcut to opening that since I can't move it to a more convenient place, like the top of the dock?
[06:07] <dr_willis> roasted:  theres gnome shell extensions to move it to the top of the dock.
[06:07] <wilmax> so, copying from the ubuntu documentation, the first command to start with would be this one, right: sudo ddrescue -r 3 /dev/sda /media/usbdrive/image /media/usbdrive/logfile ?
[06:07] <roasted> dr_willis: ah, yet again, extensions filling in for the silly gnome dev's shortcomings. thanks!
[06:07] <dr_willis> roasted:  theres also extensions to add a old-skool-classic menu to the top right of gnome shells title
[06:08] <dr_willis> roasted:  they designed it to use extensions.. its not a short comming.
[06:08] <dr_willis> the core of the shell is all extensions.
[06:08] <roasted> dr_willis: well, I guess that's a good point.
[06:08] <roasted> dr_willis: certain things just make sense to have there by default I suppose.
[06:08] <dr_willis> too bad i dont know enough javascript to do stuff with it
[06:08] <Jordan_U> wilmax: I would personally get rid of the "-r 3", GNU ddrescue has well thought out defaults.
[06:08] <dr_willis> the next gnome  is supposed to be a bit more polished. i dont see why the apps icon is at the bottom really
[06:09] <roasted> dr_willis: next, as in 3.8?
[06:09] <dr_willis> roasted:  yep. its avail in 13.04 via a ppa it seems
[06:09] <dr_willis> or the testing versins are
[06:09] <wilmax> so just like this: sudo ddrescue  /dev/sda /media/usbdrive/image /media/usbdrive/logfile ?
[06:09] <theadmin> wilmax: Yeah.
[06:09] <dr_willis> wilmax:  you dontt  normally want to do the whole hd. just a partion at a time..
[06:10] <theadmin> wilmax: Make sure your "usbdrive" is larger than the one you're ddrescuing, too.
[06:10] <Jordan_U> dr_willis: Why not do the whole HD? Then you even get a bootable image.
[06:10] <dr_willis>  /dev/sda1  not /dev/sda   Unless you are trying to image one whole hd to a 2nd hd...
[06:10] <dr_willis> Jordan_U:  assuming the boot files are not messed up - which can be the case
[06:10] <dr_willis> I image to a FILE then you can try the various fsck tools on the FILE.
[06:10] <dr_willis> and recover what you need from the file.
[06:11] <Jordan_U> dr_willis: You can do the same with a whole disk image, using kpartx to access the partitions.
[06:11] <dr_willis> i wouldent trust a dd rescued image to be bootable..
[06:11] <dr_willis> ive only really had to rescue usb hd datta drives.. so there was only 1 partion anyway
[06:12] <dr_willis> you would be ddrescueing swap partions  which is a bit of a waste.
[06:12] <warface> hi
[06:12] <dr_willis> we should stress that a decent 'rescue' may take many many hours to work.. or days...
[06:13] <theadmin> Yeah, sadly... If the drive is damaged you might want to let professionals in data recovery to deal with it, not to damage it any further
[06:13] <dr_willis> if you are lucky - only part of the hd has isssues.. and  once its past the bad part.. it should go very quickly
[06:14] <warface> alguien abla español
[06:14] <michaela> is thee any books on ubuntu server 12.04
[06:14] <dr_willis> a 1TB usb 2 hd here.. took me the better part of 3 days (not all at one time) to get fully rescued.
[06:14] <dr_willis> but i had no data loss.
[06:14] <Jordan_U> !es | warface
[06:14] <dr_willis> i imaged to a file. then mounted the image.. then copied the critical info from the  mounteed image. to a backup place
[06:14] <dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <dr_willis> i do think i had to do a fsck on the file..
[06:15] <warface> muchas gracias
[06:15] <roasted> It's easier if you just keep monthly backup images of your OS drive and nightly rsync copies of your data drives. Then if a drive begins to go bad you toss it out like it's a rotten tomato, slap in a new one, pull the OS image, and rsync the data back. Bingo bango.
[06:15] <wilmax> thing is, I cant see the name of the partition where all the data was, because on disk utility I cant click on individual partitions. there is only a partition that is in blue, under which is stated "unallocated space". and the partition with the former data is of course not labelled anymore and like I said, not clickable
[06:15] <roasted> At least, that's what I do. :D
[06:15] <theadmin> roasted: Well, you need a bunch of space for that.
[06:15] <roasted> theadmin: oh I know.
[06:15] <roasted> theadmin: I have a server with a mirrored 3TB array, so I have the flexibility to do that.
[06:16] <michaela> ubottu is looking for a ubuntu channel in Spanish
[06:16] <dr_willis> saw 4TB usb HDS today for $160    ;)  thats how i backup.
[06:16] <dr_willis> redundant stack of external usb hds
[06:16] <roasted> nothing wrong with that :)
[06:16] <roasted> as long as the data gets backed up. Doesn't matter if it's a 4TB HDD or 4 trillion floppy disks.
[06:17] <dr_willis> any flakey hds - get to be  'video storage drives'  (of stiuff  have on other hds) for the kids room
[06:17] <wilmax> is there a place to upload screenshots as practically as pastebin is for command lines? :)
[06:17] <dr_willis> that way if the hd dies.. its the kids   Dora the Eplorer that does bye..   and can be restored.
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> wilmax, imagebin
[06:18] <michaela> dose anyone know if theres any books on ubuntu server 12.04
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> wilmax, http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[06:18] <dr_willis> michaela:  looked on amazon.com ?
[06:18] <wilmax> wilee-nilee, thank you :)) just opened it
[06:18] <dr_willis> there should be tons of server guides and docs out there
[06:19] <michaela> i did
[06:19] <dr_willis> running a 'server' is a huge topic..  if you had a more sspecific area of interest.. and told us your skill level.. perhaps we cn suggest somthing more specific
[06:20] <theadmin> Who needs a book when there are manpages
[06:20] <dr_willis> short list of top things to learn about when running a 'server'   #1 - using the bash shell - by Oreailly. and 'SSH'  another biook by Oreialy
[06:20] <dr_willis> #2 - info on whatever sservice you want to run. ;)
[06:23] <l057c0d3r> k.. i've been using dist-upgrade for quite a while now with no problems..
[06:24] <l057c0d3r> now tonight.. i did a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade..  and for some strange reason its telling me that it is holding linux-generic and linux-generic headers back
[06:24] <l057c0d3r> and it wants to remove my netflix desktop app.  pcsx2, wine, playonlinux, teamview, and google earth..  why would it want to remove them
[06:24] <wilmax> the data to be saved is found on the unnamed blue and white areas here; http://imagebin.org/250955. so in gddrescue, would it be correct to refer to the disk as dev/sda?
[06:27] <HateYoFace> sup children :)
[06:27] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  odd..  unless you have removed some ppas - cant say ive ever seen it do that
[06:27] <dr_willis> wilmax:   that will image gthe whole disk yes.. but then you have to figure out how to actually access that 'unallocated' space..  you will need to use some partion rescue tool on the image file i imagine
[06:28] <dr_willis> wilmax:  it might recovery the proper info and the partion may appear in  the image file
[06:28] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis, that's just the think.. i've added and removed nothing in the last month
[06:28] <l057c0d3r> I've only done dist-upgrades in that time..
[06:29] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:   does just 'apt-get upgrade' also want to remove the stuff?
[06:29] <l057c0d3r> no it does not want to remove anything.. but it tells me that 6 are not being upgraded and are held back
[06:30] <wilmax> on the other hand, since it was the first partition I created on the disk, it would be rather likely to be dev/sda1. would it anyway be wrong to try it so and see if it is the one?
[06:30] <dr_willis> id double check your sources..   could be it want s to remove them so it can upgrade them.. but seems a little weird
[06:30] <dr_willis> wilmax:  if its unallocated. then it wont have the name /dev/sda1
[06:31] <dr_willis> you can  use features to tell it a range of the hd to try to reovery. but that gets more complex
[06:31] <wilmax> but there used to be nothing like that before this happened. I didnt have a block called unallocated space.
[06:32] <wilmax> I just saw that extended partition is called sda1. so it must have been sda2
[06:33] <dr_willis> wilmax:  how big is this unallocat3ed space/
[06:34] <icedwater> Hi, is there any way to skip the 'Try Ubuntu' / 'Install Ubuntu' screen on the live USB I'm currently running?
[06:34] <icedwater> i.e. I want to be able to boot from it in future and 'Try' Ubuntu all the time.
[06:34] <wilmax> what is seen underneath the table is a crazy TB amount. but the actual size of the lost partition is 101 GB
[06:35] <wilmax> so I dont know how big this blue area is, and how big the white larger area to the right of it. I dont understand why there are two such areas now. I only had a 101 GB partition before
[06:36] <Akiva-Mobile> I let my live cd idle while I was transfering files from harddrives etc, and it logged me out !? What is the username login for a live cd ?
[06:36] <theadmin> wilmax: TestDisk can help you find lost partitions. If the actual data is undamaged, you might be able to recover it completely
[06:36] <theadmin> Akiva-Mobile: "ubuntu", no password
[06:36] <wilmax> another thing, I can click on the partitions to the left of the blue, and cannot do so on the ones to the right.
[06:36] <judgen> anyone know if there exists a ncurses based terminal?
[06:36] <Akiva-Mobile> theadmin: you get the points. Thanks
[06:37] <wilmax> I tried testdisk, also with a deeper search. it returned read error for the whole disk
[06:37] <theadmin> Oh, ouch.
[06:37] <theadmin> judgen: ...wut?
[06:37] <dr_willis> judgen:  clarify what you mean
[06:38] <judgen> theadmin: a curses interface for bash
[06:38] <wilmax> the size of blue area is shown as 18446744072.650 GB (!)
[06:38] <theadmin> judgen: ...but... why? If you mean a multiplexer, that'd let you run multiple shell sessions in the same terminal, try tmux or screen
[06:38] <judgen> no i do not mean a plexer or a tvwm
[06:38] <Akiva-Mobile> christ that is annoying, that it would log out during a file transfer... Should I file a bug report on this?
[06:38] <dr_willis> http://sourceforge.net/projects/twin/   a text based windowing envuroment
[06:39] <theadmin> Akiva-Mobile: Something probably crashed, but unless you know what...
[06:39] <judgen> just the abillity to use curses for appearance of the terminal. Licke backgrounds, fonts and use antialiased fonts.
[06:39] <theadmin> ...oh. Huh, I've never seen anything like that.
[06:39] <dr_willis> judgen:  err... thres a framebuffer terminal for the console that has nicer fonts.. but thats not really to do with 'curses'
[06:39] <Akiva-Mobile> theadmin: everything looked fine to me. Only thing that is unstable is the graphics driver
[06:40] <judgen> dr_willis: can i change the background color in it? The black bacground really makes my screen hard to read.
[06:40] <dr_willis> judgen:  in the console? or you mean in X?
[06:40] <judgen> console. Not X
[06:41] <dr_willis> judgen:  check its docs..
[06:41] <dr_willis> !info fbterm
[06:41] <dr_willis> ithis is nothing to do with  a 'curses' front end to bash.. its a framebuffer terminal emulator.
[06:41] <judgen> yes i have tried it before.
[06:41] <dr_willis> theres ways to set background images for the framebuffer also.. ubuntu just dosent do so  by ddefault.. ive seen other  disrtos do it
[06:42] <judgen> I would like the terminal to be blue with white text.
[06:42] <judgen> almost like the C64. Makes for great readabillity on old CRT devices.
[06:43] <l057c0d3r> hm dr_willis..  the software updater is telling me that not all updates can be installed..  and asking if i want to run a partial upgrade..  causes by a: normal changes of a pre-re;eased version, B: a previous upgrade not complete. C problems with installed software
[06:43] <judgen> white on black makes it a little fuzzy
[06:43] <l057c0d3r> d: unofficial software packages..
[06:43] <dr_willis> judgen:  been using white on black for err... decades.. so cant say ive noticed
[06:43] <l057c0d3r> only ppa's i have are gnome3-team, pscx-official, google earth. and netflix-desktop
[06:43] <judgen> dr_willis: bet you have a too good screen them =D
[06:43] <dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer      a rather poor wiki page on tweaking the framebuffer.
[06:44] <dr_willis> judgen:  err.. no.. not really
[06:44] <wilmax> dr_willis, so should I use dev/sda to rescue files, and then look for the exact partition with testdisk?
[06:44] <dr_willis> wilmax:  that would be the safest way
[06:44] <Jordan_U> wilmax: That is what I would recommend.
[06:44] <dr_willis> wilmax:  but will take more time
[06:44] <wilmax> I mean rescue HDD
[06:44] <judgen> dr_willis: in really old machines they used green on black to get around the fuzziness.
[06:44] <judgen> or black on red
[06:44] <dr_willis> judgen:   i have some old serial terminals  that are green or amber.. yes..
[06:45] <dr_willis> ive also used green-bar Printing-terminals years ago.
[06:45] <theadmin> judgen: green text isn't hard to do.
[06:45] <dr_willis> setting green text is rather  trivial.. see the bash prompt howto. ;)
[06:45] <judgen> i know that changing the font color is simple, but i prefer to change the background colour somehow
[06:45] <dr_willis> judgen:  tried the fbset command yet?
[06:46] <dr_willis> you can set the framebuffer backgrounds..   i just havent seen it done in recent ubuntu releases...
[06:46] <judgen> ok
[06:47] <dr_willis> fbterm can set the colors and colors of the background.. and use an image.. from its man page i just googled...
[06:47] <dr_willis> http://pl.digipedia.org/man/doc/view/fbterm.1/
[06:47] <l057c0d3r> hmm.. whats this linux-firmware...  it wants to update..
[06:48] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  firmeare for wifi cards and devices most likely
[06:48] <l057c0d3r> ahh.. ok need that..
[06:48] <wilmax> yeah :)  would it be enough to have a 320gb target disk for the 250gb HDD?
[06:48] <l057c0d3r> hmm..  i will figure out how to fix this partial update issue..  even if i have to let it remove the stuff and then reinstall it
[06:48] <AdolfosWeb> Hi
[06:48] <dr_willis> wilmax:  you will need 250gb free on that hd. ;)
[06:49] <dr_willis> wilmax:  then if you manaage to fix the file... and get the data from it.. a place to put the data
[06:49] <dr_willis> assuming its not a full 250gb of data you need to recover...
[06:50] <dreki> why are there no multi-part FTP clients for linux?  I understand that it isnt a normal function for FTP but it is the only way i get more than 200kbps from my ftp server at home because my ISP throttles connections that last longer than a couple min.
[06:50] <dr_willis> assume its like 100 gb of data.. that will be enough
[06:50] <wilmax> oh, the data itself is about 40gb. so maybe create an own partition for data on the 320gb drive?
[06:51] <dreki> I have to go to work every time i want to transfer ftp.
[06:51] <wilmax> or a separate disk is required for the data?
[06:51] <dr_willis> wilmax:  you could make like a 280gb partion to put the image file in.  just enough for a sngle file.. then a 2nd partion to store the recoered data in... then when you are done.. delete the first parttion.. but thats nto really required
[06:52] <dr_willis> you want to image to somepolace other then the failing hd....
[06:52] <dr_willis> thats like a core idea. ;)    imageing sda  ont o a mounted /dev/sda3 partion.. is  not  going to work
[06:53] <Hatobleh> !info libreoffice.org-writer
[06:54] <Hatobleh> !info libreoffice-writer
[06:55] <l057c0d3r> well dr_willis..  i've removed the linux-image-generic, and linux-headers-generic since they were the two it said it could not update.. and i just wrote down all the software i wanted that it was going to remove...  so now.. it sais that there are 0 held back..  and 20 updates to install and 22 packages to remove
[06:56] <l057c0d3r> going ahead with the update.....  and then going to try to reinstall everything when its done.. inclucing the linux-*-generic
[06:56] <l057c0d3r> crossing my fingers here that it does not break anything..
[06:56] <wilmax> yes, sure. in the command line the target disk is represented as media/usbdrive/image.file; is this replaced by, i.e. media/dev/sdb, or just dev/sdb, or the exact location as the disk appears under media folder, sth like media/193430tt4f994ofj444 ? sorry, I mix these up :)
[06:57] <l057c0d3r> thanks to logs ext though..  even if something does break.. i can always revert back
[06:58] <Jordan_U> dr_willis: wilmax: When it comes to it, you can make partitions from the image available via "sudo kpartx -a /path/to/file.img" then mount a partition with "sudo mount /dev/mapper/loopXpY /mountpoint/".
[06:59] <nocturnal_> im trying to create a new partition to install ubuntu without erasing my windows partition. how do i resize the windows partition and then create a new partition?
[06:59] <theadmin> nocturnal_: Don't bother. Run the Ubuntu installer, select "Install alongside Windows", it'll do everything for you.
[07:00] <l057c0d3r> nocturnal_, making sure that the windows partition is defraged first..
[07:00] <wilmax> this seems too complicated for my state of knowledge. I'm just not sure how to replace "media/usbdrive" in the command line when I start gddrescue
[07:00] <nocturnal_> why cant i do it manually?
[07:01] <l057c0d3r> from the installer... you can resize the partition that windows is on....  but make sure you leave some extra space..
[07:01] <wilmax> oh sorry Jordan_U, I understand now, you mean how to partition the available image, my former question
[07:01] <l057c0d3r> then after it is restarted..  exit the installer.. and boot into windows.. to allow it to fix itself up..... once it gets done checking the drive....  start the ubuntu installer again.. and have it install in the free space..
[07:02] <wilmax> thank you
[07:02] <l057c0d3r> i can find a guide for you if you like.. its how i did it..
[07:02] <theadmin> nocturnal_: Sure you can, just leave unallocated space for Ubuntu. Windows isn't capable of creating Linux partitions. Then in Ubuntu, make an ext4 filesystem mounted to / (and another one to /home if you'd like) and an extra swap partition (~4GB)
[07:02] <l057c0d3r> i've always been told to have slightly more swap then you do actual ram.. but thats just me
[07:03] <theadmin> l057c0d3r: Only really matters if you plan to hibernate -- and hibernation doesn't work most of the time, heck it's even disabled in Ubuntu by default
[07:03] <l057c0d3r> true true
[07:03] <Jordan_U> wilmax: Please pastebin the output of "mount".
[07:03] <etaipo> so guys
[07:03] <etaipo> I just got ubuntu
[07:03] <etaipo> like 2 days ago
[07:03] <l057c0d3r> i re enabled it.. and works great on this system... but i've had other systems what.. would just not resume from hibernation
[07:04] <nocturnal_> so if im trying to resize an ntfs partition i want to edit it and use as NTFS and dont format?
[07:04] <theadmin> etaipo: Yay, a new user. So, how do you like it and what kinda problems do you have?
[07:04] <etaipo> theadmin, it's pretty cool
[07:04] <theadmin> nocturnal_: Yeah. Mount it to something like /media/ntfs, too
[07:04] <l057c0d3r> nocturnal_, from the ubuntu installer..  just click on the partition that windows is installed on.. and resize..
[07:04] <etaipo> I didn't expect it to be as awesome as it is
[07:05] <etaipo> deffs getting the mobile OS when it comes out
[07:05] <theadmin> etaipo: They plan to release first phones in October so it ain't a long wait
[07:06] <l057c0d3r> well here it goes.. going to reboot and see what all broke :-p
[07:06] <etaipo> theadmin, they gonna do hardware distribution?
[07:06] <theadmin> etaipo: Well... yeah, you can't just release a mobile OS without phones. They probably have partners ready to do that for them
[07:06] <etaipo> but
[07:06] <etaipo> can I still get it over my android OS?
[07:07] <theadmin> etaipo: Well, if the phone is good enough it should work. Anyhow, this is a support channel, for, like, problems, generic discussion takes place in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:07] <etaipo> okay well
[07:08] <etaipo> since I have a straight install of ubuntu
[07:08] <etaipo> is there anything my terminal might not be able to do yet
[07:08] <etaipo> like java files I might not have or something
[07:09] <theadmin> etaipo: I'm not sure if Ubuntu comes with Java, but you can install it: sudo apt-get install openjdk-{6,7}-jre or click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/openjdk-6-jre http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/openjdk-7-jre
[07:09] <theadmin> etaipo: (whichever version you want)
[07:09] <etaipo> umm
[07:09] <etaipo> I do java stuff at school
[07:09] <wilmax> jordan_u, this is the result: http://pastebin.ca/2336356
[07:09] <etaipo> but idk which one we use
[07:10] <theadmin> etaipo: Probably Java 6, schools tend to be outdated :/
[07:10] <etaipo> well it's uni
[07:10] <theadmin> etaipo: Do you need development tools as well? If so, use "openjdk-6-jdk" rather than the -jre
[07:10] <etaipo> what comes with dev tools?
[07:10] <theadmin> etaipo: The -jdk package
[07:10] <nocturnal_> bluej
[07:11] <theadmin> etaipo: May also want to install Netbeans or Eclipse if you're used to graphical stuff for development, those are pretty nice Java IDEs
[07:11] <etaipo> well at school we use a putti terminal
[07:11] <etaipo> and we're meant to write java stuffs in vi
[07:11] <HannahBanana> hey
[07:12] <HannahBanana> how do i uninstall ubuntu from the secondary partition?
[07:12] <HannahBanana> i dont see it anywhere
[07:12] <HannahBanana> i forgot my username pass is why
[07:12] <etaipo> HannahBanana, wipe the partition?
[07:12] <HannahBanana> i cant
[07:12] <HannahBanana> i dont see it there
[07:12] <theadmin> etaipo: Yay, vi is awesome. Ubuntu comes with vi, but you might want to install Vim for more power.
[07:13] <etaipo> sudo apt-get install Vim?
[07:13] <theadmin> etaipo: lowercase, Ubuntu packages never have uppercase letters in their names or any special characters except -
[07:13] <we6jbo> Hi
[07:14] <we6jbo> I have a question
[07:14] <HannahBanana> how do i unistall ubuntu
[07:14] <HannahBanana> from partition
[07:14] <theadmin> we6jbo: Well, let's hear it
[07:15] <Jordan_U> wilmax: Sorry, I need to leave. I'll be back some time tomorrow.
[07:15] <theadmin> etaipo: Also you can just use the Software Center for a friendlier interface to installing/removing software.
[07:15] <haggalut> HannahBanana: You could just reformat the partition.
[07:15] <wilmax> ok, thank you all the same :)
[07:15]  * DAudioLink pokes at dependency hell, "Why is there a circular dependency with passwd > upstart >initscripts > passwd?"
[07:15] <we6jbo> I was wondering if theres a way to join the tor2 onion irc channel without downloading and setting up tor2
[07:15] <HannahBanana> i dont see it on the partition
[07:16] <wilmax> dr_willis, if you're available, can I have a final question?
[07:16] <etaipo> theadmin, I wanna familiarize myself with the terminal
[07:16] <theadmin> etaipo: Ah, makes sense, then yeah use apt-get
[07:16] <theadmin> etaipo: sudo apt-get install vim
[07:16] <etaipo> yeah already did
[07:16] <etaipo> it asked me if it was okay to use 25mb of space
[07:16] <HannahBanana> what about uninstall wubi?
[07:16] <HannahBanana> would that remove it?
[07:16] <theadmin> etaipo: Heh, it mostly does that so that it doesn't pull any software you don't want as dependency
[07:16] <we6jbo> tor2 is so hidden that i cant even find their official website
[07:17] <HannahBanana> tor2?
[07:17] <HannahBanana> whats that
[07:17] <nocturnal_> why is it taking to long to partition on install?
[07:17] <theadmin> etaipo: For instance, ubuntu-restricted-extras comes with Flash, but some users despise Flash so much they're going to enter "n" at the prompt
[07:17] <etaipo> theadmin, what else can I do with sudo?
[07:17] <wilmax> starting with gddrescue, how would I replace (media/usbdrive/) for the target disk named, say, dev/sdb1?
[07:17] <HannahBanana> why would they despise flas
[07:17] <theadmin> etaipo: "sudo" basically means "run the following command as an Administrator (root)"
[07:17] <HannahBanana> what is sudo?
[07:17] <HannahBanana> oh
[07:18] <theadmin> etaipo: So eh... Any command will work with sudo when you want to give it admin rights
[07:18] <etaipo> don't I already have admin rights
[07:18] <etaipo> "etaipo@ubuntu:~$"
[07:18] <wilmax> would I write in the command line simply (media/dev/sdb1) or the real address of the target disk as seen in file manager?
[07:18] <DJJeff> *** GLIB header files (version 2.34.1) do not match *** library (version 2.35.8)
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> HannahBanana: superuser do
[07:19] <DJJeff> which package gives me GLIB header files ?
[07:19] <theadmin> etaipo: Yeah uh, your user does have admin rights, which means that this user is allowed to execute commands with sudo/gksudo or similar utilities. However, programs never run with admin rights by default, instead they run with user rights. To give them admin rights, they either have to ask for it, or you have to use sudo. It's a security thing.
[07:20] <etaipo> yeah, I've noticed that things seem pretty secure
[07:20] <etaipo> but I guess it helps burn the password into my brain
[07:20] <theadmin> etaipo: Yeah that too :P
[07:20] <l057c0d3r> sigh.. broken dependencies now....
[07:21] <l057c0d3r> unable to reinstall any of the stuff that was uninstalled
[07:21] <l057c0d3r> what a bummer..  time to start the revert process.. i wonder what caused this in the first place...
[07:21] <DAudioLink> l057c0d3r, welcome to dependency hell.
[07:22] <theadmin> DAudioLink: To answer your question, APT actually resolves circular dependencies, it's not an "error" as such with Debian/Ubuntu. It just randomly picks which one to install first, it seems.
[07:22] <etaipo> ping
[07:22] <theadmin> etaipo: pong.
[07:23] <Syria> Hello!! Anybody can help me with a formula on spreedsheet please?
[07:23] <DJJeff> ping
[07:23] <l057c0d3r> still not sure what caused it....  updates have went fine.. and then tonight.. it wants to remove my fav apps.. actually the only apps i really ever use...
[07:23] <icedwater> Syria: what sort of formula?
[07:23] <l057c0d3r> and it wont even allow linux-image-generic or linux-headers-generic to be reinstalled now...
[07:24] <DAudioLink> theadmin, well, until everything breaks anyways. My upgrade to 12.04 errored out during dpkg --configure -a because of the dependency loops.
[07:24] <nocturnal_> how long does it usually take to repartition a hd?
[07:24] <HannahBanana> hey is boot menu the same as biosS?
[07:24] <HannahBanana> it says press esc for boot menu, f1 for setup
[07:24] <wilmax> I'll figure it out, I guess. thank you very much for your support and infos, leaving now :)
[07:24] <theadmin> DAudioLink: Oh... how hamsterous. Upgrades break sometimes, sadly :( My option is usually to backup /home, get a list of packages, and reinstall from scratch. Then install packages and fill /home again.
[07:25] <theadmin> DAudioLink: ...well, or you can keep /home on a separate partition to get rid of the need to back it up upon reinstalls
[07:25] <HannahBanana> any help is appreciated
[07:25] <DAudioLink> HannahBanana, depends where you are, do you need to pick WHAT device to boot or what OS?
[07:26] <l057c0d3r> theadmin, yes....  that is a good point.. keeping /home as a different partition..
[07:26] <Syria> icedwater:  I am not sure what is the statement that I have to use, What I want to do is >> if the number entered in the cell  e6 between 10000 & 15000 deduct 5% tax! I hope that I have explained it in a good way.
[07:26] <l057c0d3r> now.. how much space to leave for /  and to give the rest to /home :-p
[07:26] <theadmin> l057c0d3r: I beleive that 20GB is sufficient for /. Probably even less.
[07:26] <theadmin> l057c0d3r: All depends on how much software you plan to put on the box really, lol
[07:27] <DAudioLink> l057c0d3r, Did you just have stuff not want to install or did you have the wonderful 'colord' error AND the root partition not want to be mounted?
[07:27] <icedwater> Syria: first of all, I'm not sure you're asking in the right channel...
[07:27] <icedwater> Syria: but thankfully, we know math (some do.)
[07:27] <l057c0d3r> DAudioLink, i had stuff removed that i use.. like the netflix-desktop app
[07:27] <l057c0d3r> and linux-generic-headers...
[07:27] <icedwater> I guess the tax deduction is not to be made from the number in e6?
[07:28] <icedwater> Syria: also, we should also probably take this to another channel.
[07:28] <Syria> icedwater:  This is not the right channel for sure and I am sorry about that, But googling for what I want did not help me at all.
[07:28] <nocturnal_> how long does it usually take to repartition a hd?
[07:28] <DAudioLink> What the hell do I have installed that's taking up 82 gigs?
[07:29] <icedwater> Syria: I've invited you to a channel. Did you see it?
[07:29] <l057c0d3r> nocturnal_, all depends on how big it is
[07:29] <nocturnal_> 160g
[07:29] <theadmin> nocturnal_: ...Normally almost instant, but if you're doing resize operations it can take hours. Especially with NTFS.
[07:29] <theadmin> nocturnal_: That's why someone said you should defrag NTFS drives before resizing them.
[07:29] <Syria> icedwater: Nope! what is the name of it please?
[07:30] <nocturnal_> theadmin: i thought that would be the case once i started. guess im stuck for the long haul.
[07:30] <l057c0d3r> theadmin, ahh.. i just figured out a good way to see how big to make my /  use the disk usage analyzer.  since i already had everything installed that i wanted....  and then just subtract the /home from the total used space.. add a few gigs for temp space.. and should be good
[07:31] <theadmin> l057c0d3r: Yeah, that works :P
[07:31] <Syria> I am using webchat.
[07:31] <icedwater> Same here.
[07:31] <icedwater>  /join <channelname>
[07:32] <l057c0d3r> wow.. yeah i think 20gb should be more then enough..  used space 36gb  /home 30gb
[07:32] <etaipo> I only dedicated 10gb
[07:33] <tadpole> How can I play new DVD's? I installed all the ubuntu restricted and gstreamer stuff
[07:33] <tadpole> Still can decode dvds
[07:34] <l057c0d3r> tadpole, u have to type this
[07:34] <l057c0d3r> bah one sec
[07:34] <tadpole> i ran the .sh script as well
[07:34] <[Saint]> my default is 500MB /boot (excessive), 20GB /root (excessive too), 100GB /home (heh...yep), and 32GB swap (mostly for the sake of hibernation)
[07:35] <theadmin> [Saint]: /root? The root's home directory needs 10MB max... It's normally empty.
[07:35] <[Saint]> the rest of the disk I usually leave for expanding and "just in case" partitions.
[07:35] <l057c0d3r> tadpole, oh ok so you ran the libdvdread/install.sh already
[07:35] <etaipo> how do I youtube?
[07:36] <theadmin> etaipo: You need Flash, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[07:36] <[Saint]> theadmin: bah! s//root//boot/
[07:36] <etaipo> theadmin, once I have these will they auto update?
[07:37] <theadmin> [Saint]: Err, that makes two root partitions, also your sed skills are lacking, you can't use / like that, either use s|/root|/boot| or s/\/root/\/boot/
[07:37] <theadmin> etaipo: Ubuntu doesn't install updates automatically but it shall notify you about them.
[07:37] <theadmin> [Saint]: Anyway I think you mean /
[07:38] <etaipo> what's the alt-f4 macro?
[07:38] <theadmin> etaipo: Close window
[07:38] <etaipo> ... what?
[07:38] <MDKwlan> etaipo, it closes the active window.
[07:38] <theadmin> etaipo: Alt-F4 closes the current window in Ubuntu
[07:38] <l057c0d3r> alt-f4 will close the active window
[07:39] <theadmin> etaipo: Hold the Super key to see descriptions of many useful shortcuts.
[07:39] <theadmin> etaipo: (the "Super" key is normally the one with the Windows logo on it)
[07:39] <l057c0d3r> good luck with updates though..  they can be a pain....
[07:39] <etaipo> oh
[07:40] <theadmin> l057c0d3r: Hey, you used third-party sources, don't blame it on Ubuntu :/
[07:40] <xen0shade> Hey guys, I have a question. I installed a Ubuntu-based distro a few days ago and I have like 204 updates pending, are they really necesary ?
[07:40] <etaipo> third-party is the way of the future
[07:40] <l057c0d3r> right..  and i doubt netflix or gnome broke linux-generic-headers
[07:40] <l057c0d3r> although with gnome.. who knows
[07:41] <theadmin> l057c0d3r: They could...
[07:41] <MDKwlan> xen0shade, To some extent yes. While not all the updates are some of them are. For example security updates.
[07:41] <etaipo> what's gnome
[07:41] <etaipo> like, Ive seen it
[07:41] <etaipo> but
[07:41] <l057c0d3r> its a desktop environment...
[07:41] <xen0shade> Thanks, MDKwlan
[07:41] <theadmin> etaipo: GNOME is the desktop Ubuntu uses. It's highly modifiable, Ubuntu uses it's own shell with GNOME called Unity
[07:41] <DAudioLink> Since I'm probably going to have to reinstall fresh, 32 or 64-bit?
[07:41] <MDKwlan> Cheers xen0shade
[07:42] <theadmin> DAudioLink: 64-bit if supported else 32-bit
[07:42] <etaipo> so how do I change things around?
[07:42] <MDKwlan> Depends DAudioLink
[07:42] <MDKwlan> Do you have a 64 bit machine?
[07:42] <etaipo> like, if I wanted a windows-style taskbar
[07:42] <ysha> hi
[07:42] <theadmin> etaipo: The kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop packages provide alternative environments. apt-get install them, log out and select whichever you want. kubuntu is most closely resembling Windows.
[07:42] <MDKwlan> etiapo I'd suggest cinnamon.
[07:42] <DAudioLink> MDKwlan, Q6600 quad core, so yup.
[07:42] <theadmin> etaipo: Also, there are ISOs with those preloaded on those distro sites.
[07:43] <l057c0d3r> theadmin, don't forget the ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[07:43] <l057c0d3r> :-)
[07:43] <theadmin> l057c0d3r: That's a thing now?
[07:43] <MDKwlan> DAuidoLink Then yea. Always go with 64 bit if you can. 32-bit is limited to ~4 gb of ram.
[07:43] <theadmin> l057c0d3r: Not on my Precise.
[07:44] <etaipo> E: Invalid operation kubuntu-desktop
[07:44] <l057c0d3r> thats how i got it.. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[07:44] <etaipo> oh wait nvm
[07:44] <theadmin> etaipo: You forgot "install"
[07:44] <etaipo> well if that's 1gb
[07:45] <etaipo> then im gonna have to redo my partitions
[07:45] <MDKwlan> How much did you give Ubuntu etaipo ?
[07:45] <theadmin> etaipo: You can just install Kubuntu from scratch if you want.
[07:45] <theadmin> Anyhow, I'm off.
[07:45] <etaipo> MDKwlan, 10gb
[07:46] <helmut_> hi
[07:46] <MDKwlan> Oh wow. Yea you're going to need more than that.
[07:46] <LinaSovereign> Hey !
[07:46] <MDKwlan> I always give a Linux install at least ~20gb
[07:46] <MDKwlan> If not more.
[07:46] <l057c0d3r> na  for /10 to 15 should be fine...
[07:47] <MDKwlan> If he's already at the limit and can't download 1gb file it's say no.
[07:47] <MDKwlan> i'd*
[07:47] <dr_willis> i have filled up a 20gb / befor.. when doing dvd video work
[07:48] <dr_willis> but that was mainly due to tmp files
[07:48] <DAudioLink> Say, is there a way to force ubuntu/synaptic to also grab the linux-$(uname -r)-headers when it installs a new kernel?
[07:49] <dr_willis> DAudioLink:  some one was asking that in here the other day... i never saw a definitive answer
[07:49] <etaipo> MDKwlan, I'm not at my limit
[07:49] <oal> Every time there's a kernel upgrade, my nvidia driver goes crazy. Is there a way to disable kernel upgrades, or make them work without screwing up the nvidia driver?
[07:49] <etaipo> ... yet
[07:49] <dr_willis> DAudioLink:  you might want to check askubuntu.com
[07:49] <etaipo> only had it for 3 days
[07:49] <MDKwlan> There might be a way to auto-update the kernel to the most recent but all I know of is that you need to manually update the kernel.
[07:50] <dr_willis> oal:  ioften i find kernels dont get updated. unless i do an    apt-get dist-upgrade.  not sure why they sometimes get held and sometimes not
[07:50] <MDKwlan> Because it's not "stable"
[07:50] <MDKwlan> and ubuntu isn't rolling
[07:50] <l057c0d3r> oal..  linux-headers-generic
[07:50] <oal> Hmm, I think I'm going to have to set grub to choose an older kernel by default or something
[07:51] <oal> When I chose the previous one in the grub menu, everything started up fine
[07:51] <TakeItEZ> oal: "uname -r" shows what?
[07:51] <MDKwlan> something went wrong with the install perhaps? oal
[07:51] <dr_willis> if you manually installed the nvidia drivers. you would need to manually reinstall them for each kernel update
[07:51] <l057c0d3r> more then likely because of the headers....  the module was not loaded into the kernel...
[07:52] <DAudioLink> oal, what version of the NVidia drivers are ya using?
[07:52] <etaipo> battle for wesnoth seems pretty cool
[07:52] <oal> TakeItEZ: 3.5.0-25-generic, because that's what I chose in the grub menu. I think it was ...-27 by default now
[07:52] <TakeItEZ> oal: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic dkms
[07:52] <oal> DAudioLink: one I downloaded from nvidia.com because none of the ones that came with ubuntu didn't work
[07:53] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis, hmm really..  i installed my ati drivers from the website....  and last kernel update i had....  can still play steam games just fine.... and use big-picture mode..
[07:53] <DAudioLink> The newest ones seem to have some majik that's supposed to reconfigure it when you boot into a new kernel if the headers are around.
[07:53] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:   every time ive seen people use the .run or whatever drivers they needed to rerun them after kernel updates.
[07:53] <oal> DAudioLink: ok, I'm installing the headers now
[07:53] <oal> thanks :)
[07:53] <l057c0d3r> although i probably got lucky.. and seeing as how my system is baggered and broken right now.. i really have no room to talk :-p
[07:54] <dr_willis> unless the drivers did somthing with dkms (i think) that would recompile them as needed
[07:54] <l057c0d3r> oh..  maybe it helped that i made .deb files from the .run file
[07:54] <MDKwlan> no 1057c0er
[07:55] <DAudioLink> dr_willis, I think that's in the latest version of the nvidia drivers. It looks familar from the last pop-up during my last install
[07:55] <MDKwlan> chmod +x the file and ./ filename.run
[07:55] <MDKwlan> and it would work just fine.
[07:55] <Syria> icedwater:  Lost the connection. Sorry.
[08:02] <oal> DAudioLink: I've reinstalled the driver now, so it seems to work with the latest kernel. :)
[08:02] <slimjimflim> hi the last update i got for my 12.04.2 upgraded flashplayer and now youtube skips.  anyone know how to fix this or maybe go back to the last version?  could it be the firefox update?  does youtube use the html5 <video> tag now?
[08:02] <oal> slimjimflim: go to youtube.com/html5 and enable html5 video tag
[08:03] <slimjimflim> hm
[08:03] <oal> slimjimflim: unless you do that, I think you'll only see flash based videos
[08:04] <DAudioLink> slimjimflim, Good luck with that. I had the same [or similar] problem last year. Flashplayer upgrade made audio start skipping and nothing I did fixed it.
[08:05] <zz__> anyone know if starcraft 2 plays well in wine? i'm not sure if it'd be worth the effort to figure out
[08:05] <slimjimflim> oal: that worked.  you da man
[08:05] <slimjimflim> death to flash, long live <video>
[08:08] <XATRIX> Hi guys, is there any way to make x86_64 from my i686 ubuntu installation ?
[08:09] <MDKwlan> No. Redownload it XATRX
[08:09] <XATRIX> If not, maybe there's a way to completely migrate all installed software and settings, and homedir to a newly installed one
[08:09] <XATRIX> I'd like not to reinstall everything i have now to new system
[08:09] <MDKwlan> Yes. You can mount the home folder after you reinstall the base system.
[08:10] <MDKwlan> I hope you have your home folder on a seprate partition?
[08:10] <XATRIX> Nope :)
[08:10] <XATRIX> Alright, i can simply copy it to new location
[08:10] <XATRIX> What about installed software and my settings
[08:10] <MDKwlan> You can only do what I said if you have it in another parition.
[08:10] <beandog> It's time to ask yourself if it's worth the hassle of moving
[08:11] <MDKwlan> Rather than installing the OS to one parition you can split it to / /boot /home /tmpfs etc etc
[08:11] <XATRIX> Yep, i like my software set, and settings customization i currently have on. Simply want to migrate to 64bit
[08:11] <MDKwlan> Make it easier to reinstall if you need to in the future and you'll still have your stuff.
[08:11] <XATRIX> Yes, but /home doesn't store my software
[08:12] <XATRIX> Everything stored in /usr/...
[08:12] <MDKwlan> Then no.
[08:12] <XATRIX> I mean installed application
[08:12] <DAudioLink> 32-bit software probably won't play very nice with a 64-bit kernel
[08:12] <XATRIX> s/application/applications
[08:12] <MDKwlan> Do you still have the binarys for the programs?
[08:13] <MDKwlan> The ".deb" forgot this is Ubuntu :P
[08:13] <XATRIX> DAudioLink: Yep, i mean, maybe i can extract some file with manually installed software, not @base, and feed it somewhere on the new system , and it will reinstall all the apps but 64bit
[08:13] <beandog> DAudioLink: actually it works fine
[08:14] <beandog> multilib installs aren't uncommon
[08:14] <MDKwlan> XATRIX that's a fair ammount of work. Rather than just redownloading them?
[08:14] <beandog> You could get a list of installed software package names, then just reinstall them from that list.
[08:14] <XATRIX> I have so much i can't remember all
[08:14] <XATRIX> :)
[08:14] <beandog> But I'm too lazy to look up how to do that.
[08:14] <MDKwlan> Fair enough.
[08:15] <XATRIX> beandog: i think it dpkg --get-selection
[08:15] <MDKwlan> Yea you could just redownload them and save yourself a giant headache
[08:15] <DAudioLink> XATRIX, the list of installed software should be in /var/logs/apt/something
[08:15] <beandog> XATRIX: yah
[08:15] <beandog> dpkg --get-selections | cut -f 1 > foo.list
[08:15] <XATRIX> MDKwlan: it's a kid of mess
[08:16] <beandog> on new box: for x in `cat foo.list`; do aptitude -y install $x; done
[08:16] <beandog> and yer done.
[08:16]  * beandog overcame laziness
[08:16] <MDKwlan> Lol.
[08:16] <beandog> I deserve a cookie.  There's gotta be one around here somewhere ..
[08:17]  * MDKwlan gives beandog a cookie for his hard work.
[08:17] <beandog> woots
[08:17] <beandog> cookies > karma
[08:17] <MDKwlan> LOLOL
[08:17] <dreadcaptain> I have xubuntu 12.10 and a radeon hd4900 graphics card that I cannot get drivers to install for
[08:17] <MDKwlan> Yea because you need the legacy drivers.
[08:17] <DAudioLink> dreadcaptain, From ATI's site?
[08:17] <beandog> XATRIX: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-get-list-installed-software-reinstallation-restore.html
[08:18] <dreadcaptain> Yes, I am using the latest driver from their website
[08:18] <MDKwlan> I don't think that has support for that old of a card
[08:18] <dreadcaptain> "DKMS part of installation failed"
[08:18] <DAudioLink> AH! Do you have the kernel-headers installed?
[08:18] <etaipo> where's the task manager?
[08:19] <MDKwlan> etaipo htop
[08:19] <MDKwlan> or top
[08:19] <dreadcaptain> The logfile says that there are no supported adapters. This is 64bit xubuntu 12.10
[08:19] <DAudioLink> Probably doesn't support that old card then, try the legacy drivers?
[08:20] <etaipo> MDKwlan, what?
[08:20] <MDKwlan> task manager, made me giggle. Windo$ lul
[08:20] <MDKwlan> Open terminal and type top
[08:20] <MDKwlan> that's task manager
[08:20] <dreadcaptain> Does the same thing with all of the drivers, and I have installed this driver with ubuntu before
[08:20] <MDKwlan> you need to kill a program? find the PID and type kill <PID>
[08:20] <slimjimflim> XATRIX: a lot of the settings are stored in hidden files in your home dir so when you backup/migrate, make sure to use cp -a or something else that will get the hidden directories
[08:21] <XATRIX> slimjimflim: yeap , thanks
[08:21] <slimjimflim> XATRIX: many configs live in /etc too so that's another thing to backup if you've made changes there
[08:21] <dreadcaptain> ubuntu 10.04 64bit ran this same driver just fine. but not 12.10
[08:21] <etaipo> the second terminal broke
[08:21] <XATRIX> Yea, this folder i'm gonna migrate some files from
[08:21] <etaipo> gonna guess it's because I'm apt-getting shit
[08:22] <donttrustem> I am trying to install  OSX using virtualbox but I need to mount the iso as a virtual dvd ...  is there an app for this
[08:22] <etaipo> use "mount" in terminal
[08:22] <MDKwlan> open another terminal and type xkill and click on the other terminal that's locked up etiapo
[08:22] <slimjimflim> XATRIX: you might also consider using a 2nd hdd and mounting the entire old one for reference
[08:22] <DAudioLink> donttrustem, mount /path/to/iso /path/to/mount/point
[08:22] <negev> hi, i have a macbook air 4,2 that was set up to use bootcamp with windows/macos. i just installed ubuntu onto the windows partition but now when i try to boot it i get "missing operating system"
[08:23] <XATRIX> slimjimflim: yea, correct thanks for advice
[08:23] <slimjimflim> np
[08:23] <donttrustem> DAudioLink, I will try again then ... already done this but the install fails to load
[08:24] <MDKwlan> Are you not using the GUI of Vbox donttrustem ?
[08:24] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, yes
[08:24] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, but I am trying to install 10.8
[08:25] <MDKwlan> It's like mounting any other ISO within Vbox. Open and go to the vm you created and load the iso within the storage tab.
[08:25] <etaipo> so if I max out my skill in linux
[08:25] <etaipo> then go back to windows
[08:25] <etaipo> will I be top shit
[08:25] <etaipo> haxxink errthin?
[08:25] <FloodBot1> etaipo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:25] <donttrustem> if I switch on efi it tells me that this version cannot be installed
[08:25] <MDKwlan> All I know is with osx and vbox it's a little rough. I'd suggest vmware but...
[08:25] <donttrustem> OK
[08:26] <Ben64> etaipo: watch the language, and offtopic banter in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:26] <MDKwlan> Does it boot at all donttrustem ?
[08:26] <etaipo> Ben64, I'll rephrase for relevance
[08:26] <MDKwlan> Like the ISO? and is it a modded iso or a retail copy?
[08:26] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, if I use efi
[08:26] <etaipo> what can one do with linux
[08:26] <etaipo> what are the limits
[08:26] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, retail
[08:26] <MDKwlan> There are none etaipo
[08:27] <MDKwlan> You need to moddify it. kinda.
[08:27] <MDKwlan> You need a bootloader so that it will work.
[08:28] <MDKwlan> It was called the chameleon mod
[08:28] <MDKwlan> donttrustem, http://lifehacker.com/5583650/run-mac-os-x-in-virtualbox-on-windows
[08:29] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, I am really only doing this so I can create a bootable USB key to install OSX on my broken MAC
[08:29] <MDKwlan> It's a little outdated but it still works. You need the OSX86.iso to boot then you install it, parition with HFS+ etc etc.
[08:29] <MDKwlan> Oh?
[08:29] <MDKwlan> I'm not sure that will work tbh.
[08:29] <MDKwlan> Because to install it to vbox you moddify the kernel
[08:29] <donttrustem> I have been trying to do this for 2 days now  :S
[08:30] <MDKwlan> Yea It's not going to. The kernel will be modded for OSX86
[08:30] <DreadCaptain> [Error] Kernel Module : Failed to build fglrx-8.97.100.7 with DKMS
[08:30] <DreadCaptain> [Error] Kernel Module : Removing fglrx-8.97.100.7 from DKMS
[08:30] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, I will use the mac osx to create the USB key from the original image
[08:30] <DreadCaptain> 0.
[08:30] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, I only need to use the diskutil
[08:30] <Ben64> then... why are you in #ubuntu? surely there is an osx channel here
[08:31] <MDKwlan> Oh? Won't the disk suffice then?
[08:31] <MDKwlan> Just burn it to a DVD or something?
[08:31] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, my DVD in my mac is broken and 10.8 only installs from USB
[08:32] <MDKwlan> donttrustem, do you know of gparted?
[08:32] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, no not heard of it
[08:32] <MDKwlan> It's a partition tool and i think it has support for HFS+
[08:33] <MDKwlan> If that's all you need is a disk utility tool
[08:33] <herry> hallooo
[08:33] <donttrustem> let me look for it
[08:33] <MDKwlan> I just spawned a vm here let me see if it has it one second
[08:33] <MDKwlan> Yea it does donttrustem
[08:33] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, I think it is more than just the diskutil but I will try it anyway
[08:33] <MDKwlan> donttrustem, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[08:34] <MDKwlan> Well what's the problem with your mac?
[08:34] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, not booting
[08:34] <iceroot> donttrustem: and you are using ubuntu on the mac?
[08:34] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, I need to reinstall OSX
[08:34] <MDKwlan> Did you mess with the partitions or lose power during an update?
[08:34] <MDKwlan> Oh?
[08:34] <MDKwlan> Well you need the whole OSX disk then nvm.
[08:35] <MDKwlan> I thought you were reformatting or soemthing.
[08:35] <MDKwlan> My bad, Sorry mate.
[08:35] <iceroot> donttrustem: we dont support apple-stuff here, have a look at #osx, #jail or something like that
[08:35] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, no not using ubuntu on the MAC.   I need OSX for Imovie as I create a lot of videos
[08:36] <MDKwlan> Yea, sorry donttrustem. Since this is #ubuntu it's only ubuntu oranted questions. Wish you the best of luck with your problem though.
[08:36] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, I understand but I am using Ubuntu to do all the work :)
[08:37] <iceroot> donttrustem: you dont need ubuntu to install osx, so please ask in an apple-channel
[08:37] <iceroot> donttrustem: its offtopic here
[08:37]  * dr_willis has missed some critical bit of info here...   or someone is confused
[08:38] <bingo> how can I encrypt my hard disk in Ubuntu, I only have 7GB space free
[08:39] <dr_willis> i thought you could only do full disk encryption during install.
[08:39] <MDKwlan> Nope.
[08:39] <MDKwlan> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/install-truecrypt-via-ppa-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[08:39] <dr_willis> what does encryptiing have to do with your freespace bingo ?
[08:39] <iceroot> dr_willis: you can also encrypt just /home/username /which is not an extra partition)
[08:40] <dr_willis> he asked  how to do his disk.. ;)   but he really should give some clarificaation i imagine.
[08:40] <bingo> dr_willis, I was trying to use ecryptfs, then when it was starting it said you don't have enough free space left
[08:40] <dr_willis> bingo:  so free up some space?
[08:40] <donttrustem> MDKwlan, gpart crashes in ubuntu
[08:40] <donttrustem> doesn run
[08:41] <donttrustem> open and crashes :S
[08:41] <MDKwlan> Yea. Gparted isn't going to help you reinstall though.
[08:41] <MDKwlan> I thought it was a partition problem. From what you said it sounds like you need the full disk
[08:41] <bingo> i think that partition is 35 gig and I have 7 gigs free, is there any other way to encrypt my home directorty
[08:41] <MDKwlan> bingo
[08:41] <MDKwlan> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/install-truecrypt-via-ppa-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[08:42] <dr_willis> bingo:  move stuff to some other location, do the encryption, move it back.
[08:42] <dr_willis> i imagine it needs  some decent amount of space to make an encrypted file to.. matching the size of your current home.
[08:42] <bingo> MDKwlan, cool man thanks
[08:42] <MDKwlan> You're welcome :)
[08:42] <dr_willis> so for a short time your home 'size' will double.
[08:43] <bingo> oak dr_willis I will try to free up some space
[08:43] <bingo> if I encrypt a shared folder (thats shared between windows and linux)
[08:43] <MDKwlan> dr_willis, brings up a good point. I didn't think about that.
[08:43] <bingo> will that affect
[08:43] <dr_willis> bingo:  i imagine it would be BEST if you backed up all your imporntant data first in any case.. in case it fails
[08:43] <bingo> I mean can I still see the folder from windows
[08:43] <MDKwlan> what fs is it?
[08:44] <MDKwlan> file system*
[08:44] <bingo> I think FAT32
[08:44] <dr_willis> bingo:  your user will have to be logged in - i  imagine. for it to be seen/useable
[08:44] <dr_willis> bingo:   you are shareing a seperate fat32 fiilesystem? not in your home?
[08:44] <bingo> I hope its fat32, I think linux don't recognize ntfs ?
[08:44] <dr_willis> then it should still be shareable,
[08:44] <MDKwlan> yea, I think if you get the key from the encryption then it would be fine.
[08:44] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[08:44] <MDKwlan> Linux recognizes ntfs
[08:44] <bingo> ohh nice
[08:45] <dr_willis> you are encrypting a fat32 filesystem?
[08:45]  * dr_willis is now confused
[08:45] <dr_willis> if you have a seperate fat32 filesystem. you can set up a share for it in smb.conf and then the user dosent matter
[08:45] <MDKwlan> I was more consured about it being ext2 3 4 and sharing it with windows
[08:45] <bingo> dr_willis, dropbox is in home directory
[08:45] <bingo> if I encrypt my home directory
[08:45] <dr_willis> bingo:  i imagine you want to stop the dropbox service while doing encrypting
[08:46] <bingo> ohh, so move it out of encryption home directory
[08:46] <bingo> or just stop it
[08:46] <bingo> okk
[08:46] <bingo> so after encryption in ubuntu, I hope I can see the file from windows
[08:47] <dr_willis> bingo:  i dont see how the encryption will affect your fat32 shareed partion at all.
[08:47] <haithun> hello
[08:47] <MDKwlan> you'll have to port the key over if you use true crypt
[08:47] <dr_willis> since thats not in your home
[08:47] <lalondong> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. i have a problem with sudo: /var/lib/sudo writable by non-owner (040777) should be mode 0700 .... how can i reset the mode to that one ?
[08:47] <dr_willis> unless you are encrypting a fat32 partition..
[08:47] <bingo> okk dr_willis
[08:48] <haithun> anyone here notices problems after the official 12.10 kernel update yesterday? I experience heavy problems on the UI
[08:48] <dr_willis> bingo:  i would backup everything in your home to some safe location first...
[08:48] <MDKwlan> lalondong http://askubuntu.com/questions/50704/sudo-error-is-mode-0777-should-be-0440
[08:48] <bingo> thanks I will do that, I need a new hdd
[08:48] <dr_willis> bbl
[08:50] <lime_> aptitude mouse support doesn't work through ssh, why?
[08:50] <MDKwlan> If you're using ssh why would you need mouse support?
[08:50] <MDKwlan> ssh to a CLI
[08:51] <haithun> noone had problems after kernelupgrade?
[09:01] <dr_willis> aptitude has mouse support?
[09:01] <TakeItEZ> dr_willis: the CUI, sure
[09:01] <dr_willis> cant say ive used aptitude enough to even rember its little curses gui interface thant
[09:01] <dr_willis> thang. ;)
[09:01] <lalondong> MDKwlan : does this mean that i have to change them to 0700 mode right? i've tried this :  pkexec chmod 0400 /etc/sudoers so i change the '0400' to 0700... but it says sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0700, should be 0440sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[09:02] <dr_willis> but to get mouse support i imagine you need to enable the X mouse reporting feature of the ssh client/terminal
[09:02] <lime_> MDKwlan: although i agree with you in theory, I not the best at remebering all the commands
[09:02] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: you need to restart in recovery mode or use a live-cd to fix that
[09:02] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: if you haven't a root-session still open
[09:03] <lime_> dr_willis:it is enabled `links` mouse support works fine, something is fishy about aptitude though
[09:03] <dr_willis> could be its looking at the TERM setting to enable it or not.
[09:04] <lalondong> TakeItEz : So the best way are using live-cd or going into the recovery mode?
[09:04] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: i'd use a live-cd because that works for sure
[09:04] <lalondong> Okey.
[09:05] <we6jbo> Hi
[09:06] <lalondong> TakeItEz : so you said that i can't do this 'chmod 0700 /etc/sudoers ', because the root are still opening ? so i have to go through the recovery mode or using live-cd ?
[09:07] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: you cannot use sudo if those permissions are messed up and as user you haven't the permission to chown/chmod. so you have to use a live-cd or whatever if you haven't by accident a running root-session still open to fix it
[09:07] <lalondong> ahh, okey.
[09:13] <dr_willis> makes me wonder how the permissions on that imporntant file got changed
[09:16] <TakeItEZ> dr_willis: user without clue, being bored, playing with sudo,chmod.... who knows
[09:25]  * DAL|Desktop marches in victorious, "Take that you damned circular dependencies!"
[09:25] <dr_willis> apt-get install circle
[09:25] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:26] <DAL|Desktop> Oh pah
[09:26] <DAL|Desktop> ntfs-3g is crashing repeatedly
[09:27] <dr_willis> you broke it!
[09:27] <DAL|Desktop> :/ resolvconf is broken too
[09:27] <dr_willis> odd that it crashes.. its  heavly tested
[09:27] <dr_willis> Hmm.,. you really got a varity of issues? currupted filesysem perhaps?
[09:28] <DAL|Desktop> I honestly don't know
[09:29] <DAL|Desktop> The past... half dozen or so times I've tried to boot to 12.04 it's been like 'OH FRACk! / isn't there or is fscked up man!'
[09:29] <dr_willis> not a good sign
[09:29] <DAL|Desktop> Then it'll mount it just fine and fsck.ext4 will check out fine.
[09:30] <dr_willis> hmm. id check the cables and give the pc a good dusting...
[09:30] <[Saint]> DAL|Desktop: it used to do that to me with /tmp
[09:30] <[Saint]> but then it...didn't.
[09:31] <DAL|Desktop> Then I'd have to remount it RW and try to get the 800 packages that failed to install/configure because of circular dependencies sorted out
[09:31] <dr_willis> then dance the  ritual dance 3 times around the machine as expected.. sacraficeing easter peeps in the microwave as you drink ovaltine from a silver gravy boat...   ;)
[09:32] <dr_willis> actually i would really looking to making a major backup of importntant stuff... and watch the machine careefully after doing the clenaing and check of cables.
[09:32] <dr_willis> this is a desktop box or a laptop?
[09:33] <DAL|Desktop> I'm fairly confident that the issue was something weird with grub installing yet not configuring/updating the boot partition all the way cause once the grub installer thing ran like 3 times last 'you WILL work damn you!' boot it booted up just fine other than X fritzing out. Logged into a TTY and it kindly asked me to reboot, and it's all working other than the crashes of apps that I knew were gonna crash because of some weird mojo
[09:34] <dr_willis> might be worth investing in a new hard drive.. and clean.reseating the ram...
[09:34] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:35] <DAL|Desktop> dr_willis, desktop. I've not had issues with any of the other partitions and it mounted just fine every time until the upgrade to 12.04 failscaded to 'too many errors, stopped processing' during the dpkg --configure stage of the upgrade
[09:36] <icedwater> Quick question about the live USB - if I install/remove packages on a persistent USB, is that configuration installed when I select "Install Ubuntu" ?
[09:36] <dr_willis> i had a weird desktop one.. there was a small cut in the ide cable from a sharp edge of the case.
[09:36] <dr_willis> icedwater:  no  it is not..
[09:36] <dr_willis> icedwater:  it will still install a vanilla/normal/default ubuntu settup
[09:37] <icedwater> Darn, is there any way to do that though?
[09:37] <dr_willis> not that i know of
[09:37] <icedwater> Anyone other than dr_willis able to chime in on this?
[09:37] <icedwater> Looking for a second opinion, because being able to do that would be excellent...
[09:37] <dr_willis> you could do a full install to USB, then install stuff.. then clone that usb to the hd of the machine,..
[09:38] <dr_willis> but then you need to use gparted to resize/make any new partions needed for the rest of the hd space
[09:38] <ePax> Hello. Im on ubuntu 12.04 and i have one Lenovo Thinkpad with mobile internet... Ericsson Business Mobile Networks BV wich i can not get to work...
[09:38] <DAL|Desktop> Couldn't he use the list of installed packages to reinstall it on the HDD?
[09:39] <dr_willis> icedwater:  askubuntu.com might have some info on what you want to do. but as far as i know it dosent work that way
[09:39] <dr_willis> he also mentioned UNinstgalled packages. DAL|Desktop  so thats not going to work all the way
[09:39] <dr_willis> im not even sure what the apt system shows on a live usb. but he could get a list at least
[09:39] <dr_willis> !clone
[09:40] <icedwater> !automate
[09:40] <pepijndevos> Are there any other IRC bouncers packaged in Ubuntu other than znc and sbnc?
[09:41] <dr_willis> pepijndevos:  use the search feature of apt-cache and see
[09:41] <dr_willis> I use znc :)
[09:41] <icedwater> Nice, anyway that's a good bounce point to work with. Thanks dr_willis and DAL|Desktop :)
[09:41] <TakeItEZ> ePax: what ericsson exactly? ID 0bdb:1900 (f3507g) working fine ootb here
[09:41] <pepijndevos> dr_willis: what to search for?
[09:41] <dr_willis> apt-cache search irc                  for starters
[09:42] <dr_willis> !info sbnc
[09:42] <dr_willis> znc has such a nice feature set.. it  may be hard to beat. ;)
[09:42] <dr_willis> !info znc
[09:43] <dr_willis> its also a lot bigger. ;)
[09:43] <TakeItEZ> and rather old
[09:44] <pepijndevos> dr_willis: and it has no init script :(
[09:44] <dr_willis> if you want the latest compile from source
[09:44] <dr_willis> init script for what? cant say ive needed an init script for znc
[09:44] <pepijndevos> I think 1.0 is in backports
[09:44] <pepijndevos> so do ou start it by hand all the time?
[09:44] <stupidBYdefault> hello, my gtk+ is expieriencing problems
[09:45] <stupidBYdefault> some kind.. i use ubuntu 12.04 lts, with GNOME log-in
[09:45] <dr_willis> pepijndevos:  you mean run it as a service? you can make it auto start at bootup if you wanted tio via /etc/rc.local  since it runs as a user that would be a little unusual.
[09:45] <ePax> TakeItEZ, 0bdb:1926
[09:45] <dr_willis> differnt users could all have their own znc server going.
[09:46] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis:
[09:46] <l057c0d3r> you still around?
[09:46] <dr_willis> i got znc on a VPS  ;) it must have 3 weeks of uptime by now.
[09:46] <pepijndevos> alright
[09:46] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  for about 2 min.... time to leave work soon
[09:46] <l057c0d3r> well.. i did a fresh install..  and well updated..  and bamn same dependency problems already....
[09:47] <l057c0d3r> i believe it has to do with the lib_mesa_dri update
[09:48] <l057c0d3r> but i believe it also has something to do with pre-released updates..  which is a bummer.. because they are needed to fix gwibber and facebook login atm when creating new accounts.
[09:48] <dr_willis> i dont use either one. so cant confirm. checked for bug reports i  think would be the best thing to do.
[09:48] <l057c0d3r> sigh.. i guess i can lock the other files at there lower level before adding pre-released updates...  might help there...
[09:48] <dr_willis> also my only system is a 13.04 box right now. ;)
[09:49] <dr_willis> good luck. im heading out the door... bbl
[09:49] <TakeItEZ> ePax: "lsmod |grep cdc" does it list the usbnet, cdc_ether[,wdm,acm]?
[09:50] <donttrustem> if anyone is interested in VM images http://www.souldevteam.net/blog/downloads/
[09:50]  * DAL|Desktop snrks, "Ubuntu 10.04 has experienced an internal error." while running 12.04. I think I might know why it's having issues.
[09:51] <lalondong>  TakeItEZ: do my only change is to re-install my ubuntu, cause i've change the whole permission for /var
[09:51] <ePax> TakeItEZ, yes it does usbnet                 26253  1 cdc_ncm
[09:52] <TakeItEZ> ePax: "rfkill list wwan" shows hard-/soft-blocked no?
[09:52] <l057c0d3r> well after working so good for a long time.. i see now how pre-released updates could be a bad option to have selected :-p
[09:53] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: why did you do that? ;) scnr
[09:54] <lalondong> TakeItEZ: cause i forgot to put /www when change the mode to 777 now i'm fucked
[09:55] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: besides that chmod 777 is pointless in most cases, yes you have a problem. it really might be easier to reinstall than to fix permissions file by file
[09:56] <lalondong> TakeItEZ: i have about 129 root files on /var is there any other way to save my ubuntu instead of re-install them>
[09:56] <ePax> TakeItEZ, Softblocket = yes
[09:56] <ePax> blocked*
[09:57] <ePax> and harblock no
[09:57] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: you can try to compare your permissions with dirlist of a "clean" installation and try to repair, but that is some work
[09:57] <haggalut> they are wage earners
[09:57] <TakeItEZ> ePax: sudo rfkill unblock wwan
[09:58] <ePax> TakeItEZ, shall i just try to connect now?
[09:58] <TakeItEZ> ePax yes
[09:58] <lalondong> what is 'clean'?
[09:58] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: "not messed up"
[09:58] <ePax> TakeItEZ, oki thnx, brb
[09:59] <lalondong> TakeItEz : does that mean, from live-cd installation ?
[09:59] <ed8> hi, I'm trying to create a live USB to demonstrate an application and get rid of the cross-platform issues
[09:59] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: no from a different installation of the same version (someone from here maybe)
[10:00] <ed8> I need to put the system on a 4Gb USB thumb and I'm starting by creating a Virtual Box image of 4Gb disk
[10:00] <ed8> but I'm not sure about the ram
[10:01] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: it still might give some problems because of different packages bein installed etc. so it's not the ultimate solution, more an attempt
[10:01] <etaipo> ed8, then ubuntu would just use that memory
[10:01] <etaipo> and be able to access whatever's on the hdd?
[10:01] <etaipo> if you boot from usb
[10:02] <lalondong> Okey, how about re-install, if i re-install my ubuntu, it's clean the permission for whole files in /var right?
[10:02] <pepijndevos> dr_willis: coming think of it, why would anyone run a multiuser proxy as a single user? I found bip, whcih has an init file, for the lazy.
[10:02] <lalondong> TakeItEZ : Okey, how about re-install, if i re-install my ubuntu, it's clean the permission for whole files in /var right?
[10:02] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: yes
[10:03] <lalondong> TakeItEZ : but do i have any option to make my programs still exist and running after i re-install them>
[10:03] <ePax> TakeItEZ, It looks like it works now :D thnx for your help :)
[10:04] <TakeItEZ> ePax: i'd suggest installing tlp from linrunners-ppa, very nice tools for thinkpads
[10:04] <ed8> etaipo: well actually RAM configuration of the VM won't impact the target live-USB as it will use the host-computer RAM
[10:04] <haggalut> just install everything
[10:04] <haggalut> 2 terabytes of rolling release code
[10:04] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: backup your stuff, backup /etc, backup a list of packages installed
[10:04] <haggalut> plug it in
[10:04] <haggalut> and go to sleep
[10:04] <lalondong> TakeItEZ : how to do that? i've backup my archives files...
[10:05] <TakeItEZ> !clone | lalondong
[10:05] <haggalut> 2 terabytes of rolling release code
[10:05] <haggalut> its nothing but crypto
[10:05] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: to backup /etc, "sudo tar cf /media/backup/my-etc.tar /etc"
[10:05] <haggalut> its how it is displayed
[10:05] <haggalut> onscreen
[10:05] <haggalut> thats all you notice
[10:06] <haggalut> like a davinci code
[10:06] <TakeItEZ> haggalut:  Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[10:06] <haggalut> i thought you did
[10:07] <haggalut> just fill up the whole hard drive with code and hit rolling release and plug it into brroadband
[10:07] <TakeItEZ> !ot | haggalut stop your random nonsense here please
[10:07] <lalondong> TakeItEz : it says  : tar: /media/backup/my-etc.tar: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[10:07] <lalondong> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[10:08] <k1l> haggalut: stop that offtopic in here and keep the channel clear for ubuntu support. thanks
[10:08] <haggalut> no u
[10:08] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: use a real existing path to a media you can store your backups
[10:08] <Touhou11> haggalut: I value your contributions to the channel
[10:08] <Touhou11> k1l: Please don't cyber-bully, read the rules of conduct, thanks
[10:10] <lalondong> obottu : i'm using 12.04 LTS .
[10:11] <Touhou11> lalondong: 12.04 is no longer supported I think, you need to upgrade
 etaipo: well actually RAM configuration of the VM won't impact the target live-USB as it will use the host-computer RAM
[10:11] <TakeItEZ> nonsense Touhou11
[10:11] <k1l> lalondong: dont listen to the troll. 12.04 is still supported
[10:12] <lalondong> k1l : -__--
[10:13] <lalondong> ubottu : where should i paste my-packages in new installation ?
[10:14] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: anywhere you like, its just a list of packages, a textfile.
[10:14] <etaipo> so
[10:14] <lalondong> TakeItEZ : but i'll make my older programs exist on the new installation right?
[10:14] <etaipo> some guy told me to get kubuntu
[10:15] <TakeItEZ> lalondong: older? you get a list of packages being installed now. that list you can use, to install the same set of packages after reinstallation
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> etaipo  try it with a live cd or usb, then decide
[10:16] <lalondong> ahh, okey
[10:16] <etaipo> MonkeyDust, but then I'm just a haxxor
[10:16] <etaipo> anyway
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> etaipo  no, it's perfectly legal and allowed
[10:16] <etaipo> someone gave me a sudo apt-get
[10:16] <etaipo> MonkeyDust, not on a computer connected to a server
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> etaipo  i missed that part
[10:17] <etaipo> well anyway
[10:17] <etaipo> I did apt-get for kubuntu
[10:17] <etaipo> how do I use it
[10:18] <DAL|Desktop> Well, I'm updated, and have the Nvidia drivers waiting to be installed so...
[10:23] <ePax> TakeItEZ, What is tlp?
[10:23] <TakeItEZ> ePax: a toolset for thinkpads
[10:24] <TakeItEZ> ePax: better powermanagement, easy switchng of bt/wifi/wwan on/off etc.
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> etaipo  logout, select kubuntu, login
[10:25] <TakeItEZ> ePax: http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-developer-documentation.html
[10:26] <ankit_> hello
[10:26] <TakeItEZ> ePax: err http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/tlp.html
[10:26] <bediinderjit> hi all
[10:27] <ankit_>  i want to ask on equestion
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> ankit_  shoot
[10:27] <ankit_> ok
[10:28] <ciao> hi!
[10:28] <DAL|Desktop> Plah. Not liking the Unity DM/WM
[10:29] <n8w> hey guys
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> DAL|Desktop  install something else, logout, select what you intalled, login
[10:29] <n8w> has any of u tried migratin v2p vbox?
[10:29] <ankit_> sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=40
[10:30] <ankit_> may i know how to get value of this mem location
[10:30] <n8w> im considering to do that...but any practical experiences r welcome
[10:30] <ankit_> plz reply
[10:31] <ePax> TakeItEZ, thnx ill try it
[10:31] <DAL|Desktop> MonkeyDust, any suggestions?
[10:32] <ciao> someone can help me to fix my webcam & micro case i just installed xubuntu 13.04
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> DAL|Desktop  about what?
[10:33] <DAL|Desktop> Something not Unity.
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> DAL|Desktop  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[10:34] <k1l> !13.04 | ciao
[10:37] <DAL|Desktop> MonkeyDust, Thanks
  but i had this problem with xunbuntu 12.
[10:40] <k1l> ciao: but we cant tell if the problem exists because of the development release or the hardware/driver. so please ask in the +1 channel
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> ciao  type /j #ubuntu+1
  can u help me cause i dont the meaning of :  type /j #ubuntu+1
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> ciao  type /join #ubuntu+1   then ask in that channel
[10:45] <ciao> thank u !
[10:46] <ciao>  type /join #ubuntu+1  :  someone can help me to fix my webcam & micro case i just installed xubuntu 13.04
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> ciao  no, without the word 'type'... it's /join #ubuntu+1    then press enter
[10:51] <BluesKaj> HI all
[10:53] <Derpfiend> hidely ho neighbourino
 thank u !
[10:56] <amigamia> what is the command to determine your version?
[10:56] <amigamia> something -v
[10:56] <amigamia> ?
[10:56] <ikonia> amigamia: lsb_release -a
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> amigamia  lsb_release -sd
[10:56] <amigamia> thanks
[10:56] <ikonia> amigamia: it will give you a clear set of information about your system
[10:57] <amigamia> thank you
[10:57] <amigamia> if this virtual machine has a 9.04 server, i am stuck in the gutter to resolve the dependencies i presume?
[10:58] <k1l> !eol | amigamia
[11:01] <informatyk> informatyk
[11:01] <informatyk> siema :D \
[11:01] <informatyk> haaaaloooo
[11:01] <informatyk> chuj
[11:01] <amigamia> well are the repositories deleted as well for the versions?
[11:01] <amigamia> or disabled?
[11:01] <informatyk> deutsch pleasa
[11:01] <informatyk> please
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> !de
[11:02] <informatyk> polish please
[11:02] <k1l> amigamia: they are frozen into the old releases. see the link for eol upgrades
[11:02] <k1l> !pl > informatyk
[11:02] <informatyk> ok, thanks
[11:02] <informatyk> motherfucker
[11:02] <amigamia> kl| frozen? does that mean they are still accessible?
[11:03] <k1l> amigamia: they are accesible described in the listed wiki pages. but they dont have any updated security packages in it.
[11:04] <informatyk> waszmistrz
[11:11] <minderi> hello
[11:14] <dawkirst> hi, if there's an app with no installer, where is it supposed to live?
[11:15] <TakeItEZ> dawkirst: just a flat file? ~/bin for personal use, /usr/local/bin for systemwide
[11:15] <minderi> 안녕하세요
[11:17] <Industrial> Which setting sets my mouse to snap to themonitor edge?
[11:17] <Industrial> I have dual screen now and it's highly irritating
[11:17] <bazhang> !ko | minderi
[11:25] <Guest78737> i have formated my filesystem ubuntu drive now i am here from live cd someone help to get my system back
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> Guest78737  did you backup, first?
[11:25] <Guest78737> no
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Guest78737, formatting wipes all your data
[11:26] <Guest78737> is there any way ??
[11:27] <Guest78737> blueskaj: is there any way that i can just get it back any wiki page ?
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> Guest78737  start from the beginning, what did you do before you came here
[11:28] <OerHeks> Guest78737, testdisk might help, no guarantee > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Testdisk
[11:30] <Guest78737> MonkeyDust:i have formatted the drive with ntfs mistakenly and than system got crashed and i rebotted than it says to rescue grub after that i use live cd and than i googled  seen many wiki applied many ways but no result
[11:32] <Guest78737> MonkeyDust: what do u say ?
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> !recover | Guest78737 try this
[11:33] <zolek> Hello, I've got a peculiar bug, when I try to click/drag an open png image in the default image viewer my session terminates and I get sent back to the login screen, where could I check for errors of that?
[11:33] <Guest78737> thanks lets hope for the best
[11:34] <bazhang> zolek, filed a bug? whats the link if so
[11:34] <zolek> nope, first I'd like to check out myself what is going on
[11:34] <ikonia> zolek: that strongly sounds like a graphics driver
[11:35] <DJGandalf> Hello All - I'm just going to dive striahgt in,  I'm trying to configure OpenSSH on unbunto to use SSH keys,    I've managed to get the server up and running,  connect to it via Putty, but it not using Keys to authenticate.
[11:35] <zolek> tried google, but I have no idea for a good query for an error like that
[11:35] <DJGandalf> Would someone be able to trouble shoot with me,  I'm sure I'm just missing something very simple. - I've been following the following guide.https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html and others.
[11:36] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: have you copied your pub-key to the servers ~/.ssh/authorized_keys?
[11:36] <DJGandalf> TakeITEZ,  yes,  I've done this by hand using cat
[11:38] <DJGandalf> TakeITEZ,  I did cat id_dsa.pub >> authorized_keys
[11:38] <DJGandalf> TakeITEZ, I've chmod 600 the authorized_keys file
[11:39] <DJGandalf> TakeITEZ and restered the server with restart ssh
[11:40] <DJGandalf> Is there a way I can debug ssh server to see if the configuration is set correcthly from the sshd_config
[11:43] <dawkirst> TakeItEZ, thanks.
[11:46] <Layke> I can't figure out where a lot of the large files are. On a 8GB instance on aws, and it's 100% on the disk
[11:46] <Layke> But df -h doesn't even come close to touching 8GB
[11:46] <SIGKILLer> DJGandalf: I think is supposed to be authorized_keys2 if you are using protocol version 2
[11:47] <Layke> Here: http://pastie.org/6637867
[11:47] <ikonia> Layke: please pastebin the output of df -h in a pastebin
[11:47] <Layke> ikonia, Above see.
[11:47] <ikonia> Layke: that's not what I asked for
[11:47] <Layke> Oops sorry sec
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> Layke  try this command     find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[11:47] <Layke> http://pastie.org/6637878
[11:48] <Layke> MonkeyDust,  -r-------- 1 root root 128T Mar 20 11:48 /proc/kcore
[11:48] <ikonia> ignore /proc
[11:48] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: does putty have an option to produce more verbose logs (like ssh -vvv  does)? that should give you some info.
[11:48] <ikonia> Layke: so if you cd / and do "du -h" what is the total
[11:48] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: if you haven't changed the default sshd_confg, ssh-keys should work ootb
[11:48] <Layke> ikonia, 2.4G (asuming you mean the final line)
[11:48] <Layke> 2.4G    .
[11:49] <Layke> Is the final line in du -h
[11:49] <vmachine> im trying to install php but get this error Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-updates/main php5-common amd64 5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1
[11:49] <vmachine>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[11:49] <DJGandalf> TakeITEZ,  I will look into that now
[11:49] <ikonia> Layke: interesting.
[11:49] <Layke> ikonia, I have masssive wait% time on top. Whcih looks like it's trying to write to disk.
[11:50] <ikonia> that's expected
[11:50] <ikonia> Layke: run this please "sudo du -x / | sort -n | tail -40"
[11:50] <Layke> It's really strange. :)
[11:51] <Layke> http://pastie.org/private/guavgoxtfqgzuohswskqa
[11:51] <Layke> I'm going to intiailise a new server quickly, incase this one is unrecoverable.
[11:51] <ikonia> Layke: lets update that make it easier to read
[11:51] <ikonia> Layke: run this please "sudo du -hx / | sort -n | tail -40"
[11:52] <DJGandalf> TakeItEZ:  I've changed the Port to 2222,  and commented in the line " AuthorizedKeysFile      %h/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[11:52] <Layke> ikonia, That doesn't include what I think you would expect. It's mostly files around 888K to 1000K in size
[11:53] <Layke> Here ikonia  http://pastie.org/private/2jjtowxeurx3l8yecphdwg
[11:53] <ikonia> Layke: maybe a sizing problem on the hardware end then, maybe worth talking to amazon
[11:53] <Layke> I think the sorting is wrong when you du -hx it.
[11:53] <ikonia> Layke: looks like it
[11:53] <Layke> Yeah, I'm just going to kill it now. It's odd. :) Not seen it before.
[11:54] <Layke> ikonia, Although, actually, umm a few days ago I ran.. rm -rf /var/log/nginx/*
[11:54] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: %h/.ssh/.... is default, so no need for that line but it shouldn't harm. no idea where it hangs. try to get putty being more verbose
[11:54] <Layke> Could nginx be writing to files that don't exist?
[11:54] <Layke> And doing something odd?
[11:54] <ikonia> Layke: wouldn't cause that problem no
[11:54] <ikonia> Layke: there is an interest article on the web about how aws setups mysql,
[11:55] <ikonia> Layke: that's the only thing that seems "similar" to the issue you are seeing
[11:55] <TakeItEZ> bbl
[11:56] <Layke> I'm killed the instance, and will restore from images
[11:57] <DJGandalf> TakeITEZ,  it looks like from looking at Putty's event Log, SSH us using protocol version 2,  so does SIG's comment stand true?
[11:57] <Necrosporus> What are prices for ubuntu OEM basic?
[11:57] <Necrosporus> http://www.canonical.com/engineering-services/oem-services/oem-services
[11:57] <Necrosporus> This page doesn't mention it
[11:58] <jpds> Necrosporus: Contact Canonical.
[11:58] <wheel> help! my linux-box kernel: 2.6.32. How can I get mplayer play video? Uvesafb is on! But when mplayer open a video...Screen just blank!!!
[11:58] <Munchor> My mouse isn't getting "stuck" on the right edge of the screen. Any ideas? It's really annoyin
[11:58] <ikonia> wheel: what version of ubuntu
[11:59] <wheel> ikonia: squeeze
[11:59] <ikonia> wheel: try the #debian channel
[11:59] <ikonia> wheel: thats not ubuntu
[11:59] <wheel> ikonia: no ...10.04
[11:59] <Kenjin> Hello
[11:59] <wheel> ikonia: hello
[11:59] <ikonia> wheel: errr it doesn't just changes like that
[12:00] <ikonia> wheel: please show me the output of uname -a please
[12:00] <Layke> ikonia, I just restarted the instance. (I didn't know you could do that with reserved instances). Came back with 35% usage on /dev/xvda1.
[12:00] <wheel> ikonia: :)
[12:00] <Layke> Really odd issue. Looks like a hardware issue on the root device.
[12:00] <Necrosporus> jpds, I wonder, what's basic OEM contract for if ubuntu is made of free software? So it must be possible to pre-install ubuntu from image downloaded from ubuntu.com without any contracts?
[12:01] <wheel> ...
[12:01] <jpds> Necrosporus: For OEMs like Dell to ship Ubuntu?
[12:02] <ikonia> wheel: please show me the output of uname -a please
[12:02] <ikonia> Layke: that's very interesting
[12:02] <wheel> ikonia: how to show???
[12:02] <ikonia> wheel: doesn't matter, I can see you asking in debian as you are using debian
[12:02] <ikonia> wheel: please don't ask again in this channel
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> wheel  in a terminal, type uname -a    then paste the output here
[12:03] <Necrosporus> jpds, I'm not sure what does mean 'like dell', but basically yes
[12:03] <wheel> ikonia: I did typed 'uname -a'
[12:03] <wheel> ikonia: sorry. get it
[12:04] <Guest29985> ////////
[12:04] <Guest29985> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[12:04] <Guest29985> ..................
[12:04] <FloodBot1> Guest29985: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:04] <Guest29985> 求中文啊。。。。
[12:05] <OerHeks> !cn | Guest29985
[12:06] <Necrosporus> jpds, so what are average prices for preinstalled ubuntu and is it required at all to by basic contract if it doesn't include any work from Canonical to be done?
[12:06] <jpds> Necrosporus: Contact Canonical.
[12:06] <Layke> s/reserved instance/spot request
[12:07] <Layke> It wasn't a reserved. Obv you can restart them :)
[12:07] <Necrosporus> jpds, how do I contact Canonical via IRC?
[12:07] <ikonia> Layke: what is reserving it though ?
[12:07] <jpds> Necrosporus: You don't, you use the web form linked in the right sidebar of that page.
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> Necrosporus  http://www.ubuntu.com/contact-us
[12:09] <whi5key> !cn | ubottu
[12:09] <Layke> I don't know. But I'd guess it's got to be a glitch in their virtualization... I could understand if this was a micro instance, because micro instances  use ELB (elastic block storage), and with ELB, the virtualization of the device could quite easily mess up with the device.. but this was a large instance so, actually had a root device. *shrugs* is my best idea :)
[12:09] <whi5key> aha
[12:09] <Layke> Just glad I wasn't goign insane in how I was using df -h and du -sh
[12:09] <ikonia> Layke: glad your sorted, it's useful to know
[12:10] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: sry was busy. no, authorized_keys should be working for both protocols since a while. again about sshd_config "%h/.ssh/authorized_keys" expands to HOSTNAME/.ssh/...  not $HOME/.ssh . is that what you need?
[12:11] <Necrosporus> jpds, but I do not actually want to ship laptops with ubuntu, I wonder how much does OEM ubuntu cost for ones who buy Dell laptops with it. I has been asked how to get refund for preinstalled operating system if it would be ubuntu.
[12:11] <DJGandalf> TakeItEZ: ah ok,  so I should change to to ~/  or put a comment?
[12:11] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: ignore me, thats nonsense. ssh_config %h is hostname, sshd %h is $HOME
[12:13] <DJGandalf> TakeItEZ: sorry that just confused me
[12:13] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: not my intention, sorry
[12:14] <sw_> hi would perl module Time::Duration be the same as the libtime-duration-perl package?
[12:14] <TakeItEZ> sw_: yes
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> Necrosporus  maybe you can find an answer here http://www.ubuntu.com/search/google-appliance/oem
[12:16] <DJGandalf> TakeItEZ, but can I conclude  that when I see %h/ in a file its refering to ths host name, rather than the user home directory?  so it really should be ~/.ssh/  for the authorized_keys file?
[12:17] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: not generally. %h in sshd_config ~ $HOME. but sine openssh-5.6 there is %h in ssh_config too, but that is HOSTNAME. more than confusing
[12:18] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: just comment that line out and test again, maybe set putty-logging to "all session output" to get some info where it hangs
[12:18] <DJGandalf> TakeItEZ, ok, thats cool,   so when I'm connecting - what would I expect to see in the logs when keys are turned on.  I would expect it to just refuse my connection?   As I can still connect and type me username and password, with no key provided
[12:19] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: it might give an idea why it refuses to use the keys
[12:19] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: "not found", "not valid""permission" whatever
[12:20] <Necrosporus> MonkeyDust, it doesn't seem to contain an answer
[12:20] <DJGandalf> ok,  can I pastbin my putty log,  will that help?
[12:20] <StephenS> What could be the problem I cannot login with wsitch user?
[12:20] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: you might ask someone else to check it then, i have to www-access atm
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> Necrosporus  you can still use ubuntu's contact page
[12:21] <StephenS> I did passwd on user and pass changed successfuly, but somehow on switch user login session menu I cannot login to that user, why is that?
[12:21] <StephenS> however I added user with useradd and on su - user I get No directory, logging in with HOME=/
[12:21] <StephenS> maybe that is problem?
[12:21] <TakeItEZ> DJGandalf: _no_ www-access, sry
[12:21] <DJGandalf> ok thanks TakeItEZ
[12:22] <OerHeks> Necrosporus, "asked how to get refund for preinstalled operating system if it would be ubuntu."  >> ubuntu is free, so no refund if you don't want ubuntu preinstalled.
[12:23] <dioioib> does anyone know how to map an input device using Xorg.cong
[12:23] <dioioib> does anyone know how to map an input device using Xorg.conf <- even
[12:24] <Necrosporus> OerHeks, seem like it's not quite free
[12:26] <Gnea> Necrosporus: Ubuntu has no paid license, therefore there is no fee.  That's just how it's always been.
[12:26] <dioioib> Are you talking about how the site now asks you if you want to donate?
[12:26] <Necrosporus> Gnea, there are OEM contracts
[12:27] <Necrosporus> nope
[12:27] <Gnea> Necrosporus: such as?
[12:27] <StephenS> nvm adduser did the work
[12:27] <Necrosporus> Gnea,  http://www.canonical.com/engineering-services/oem-services/oem-services
[12:28] <sw> /wik/win 2
[12:28] <anew> i have lubuntu ( i think) running on my raspberry pi, but i cant login i forgot the credentials.... what can i do ?
[12:29] <Gnea> Necrosporus: that's IF someone were to go the OEM route
[12:30] <OerHeks> !password | anew
[12:30] <TakeItEZ> anew: there is ubuntu for ARMv6 now?
[12:30] <anew> yeah not sure... could be debian
[12:30] <Gnea> Necrosporus: now, whether they actually charge specifically to have the OS put on the system itself is a different matter entirely
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !arm|TakeItEZ,
[12:30] <anew> i think it is debian now that u mention that
[12:30] <Gnea> !arm
[12:31] <sw> what's the best way to keep SSH sessions from a Mac to Ubuntu server open?
[12:31] <sw> only have to leave it a couple of minutes and it doesn't respond
[12:31] <dioioib> sw: mac is the server or ubuntu?
[12:31] <dioioib> and ufw has 22 open?
[12:32] <Gnea> sw: screen and top
[12:32] <xatr0z_> sw: if problem is that it will disconnect after you dont type for a while: look at the /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server and set KeepAlive to yes
[12:33] <sw> xatr0z_: aha, thank you, I remember doing that on a different server a while back but couldn't remember where it was
[12:33] <sw> xatr0z_: it has TCPKeepAlive yes already, does it need KeepAlive yes, too?
[12:33] <blackshirt> !info add-apt-repository
[12:34] <blackshirt> !help add-apt-repository
[12:34] <TakeItEZ> software-properties-common: /usr/bin/add-apt-repository
[12:34] <TakeItEZ> blackshirt: ^^
[12:35] <xatr0z_> not really sure
[12:35] <blackshirt> how i can use it to add repository from ppa ?
[12:35] <ner0x> So how can I change the Alt+F2 to not open up the app menu?
[12:36] <dioioib> anyone know how to setup xorg with input device mapping?
[12:38] <tyler_d> whats a good keyboard key detection program from terminal please?
[12:39] <kandinski> so I have Virtualbox 4.1.8 but apt-get upgrade keeps upgrading it, which I don't want. Can I nail the version I need down?
[12:39] <TakeItEZ> !hold | kandinski
[12:39] <TakeItEZ> kandinski: set it on hold
[12:40] <kandinski> TakeItEZ: thanks
[12:41] <sKeiths> anyone got resizefs experience. got some strange replies. http://paste.debian.net/243069/
[12:41] <kandinski> TakeItEZ: apropos hold and searching man apt-get for 'hold' don't find a solution. Which tool should I use?
[12:41] <TakeItEZ> kandinski: echo packagename hold | sudo dpkg --set-selection
[12:41] <kandinski> ta
[12:42] <TakeItEZ> kandinski: aptitude hold packagename
[12:42] <tyler_d> no love
[12:44] <Luyin> Does anybody else have the behaviour of the HUD that applications, menu points etc. started through it start in the background?
[12:47] <swelogan> Hi, new here. Is there some one here that have experiens with touchscreens?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !touch|swelogan,
[12:48] <Luyin> Hello there, how do I report a bug about the HUD?
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> !bug
[12:49] <lalondong> guys\
[12:49] <ausxxh> this is odd, this morning my ubuntu 10.04 suddenly shows some KDE-alike interface?
[12:49] <lalondong> i'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, how can i install squid on my OS.?
[12:49] <ausxxh> I installed a KDE paint program then removed/autoremove/clean it, somehow it affects my today's UI?
[12:49] <ausxxh> how could this happen
[12:50] <dioioib> lalondong: sudo apt-get squid
[12:50] <k1l> !squid | lalondong
[12:50] <dioioib> press alt+ctrl+F1 for terminal
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> ausxxh  don't struggle with 10.04, it's too old, better use something more recent
[12:50] <ausxxh> the menu, window tabs, etc are all KDE style now, odd
[12:50] <ausxxh> MonkeyDust: it will take 2 to 3 days for me to upgrade, too many working stuff here
[12:51] <lalondong> it says error : E: Invalid operation squid
[12:51] <dioioib> soor
[12:51] <dioioib> sudo apt-get install squid
[12:51] <Luyin> @MonkeyDust: I know that. Is the process of the HUD "hud-service"?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> Luyin  not sure, atm i use lxde
[12:52] <Luyin> ok thank you. I'll find out ;)
[12:52] <Luyin> good bye!
[12:53] <k1l> lalondong: read the documentation the bot gave you
[12:53] <ner0x> How do I use 12.10 with gnome instead of unity?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> !notunity | ner0x
[12:54] <lalondong> okey it's done, what now?
[12:55] <dioioib> ner0x: you can run gdm and select full not light or do as ubottu says
[12:55]  * ner0x likes the gnome3 interface.
[12:55] <dioioib> lalondong: read the doc from there on out. its not easy to setup
[12:55] <ner0x> Unity... I can't stand.
[12:55] <dioioib> me either
[12:56] <lalondong> can i have the link?
[12:56] <dioioib> I am running the old gnome. with dual head display that was the only way I could get the drivers to work.
[12:56] <dioioib> !squid | lalondong
[12:57] <ner0x> More and more I find myself enjoying Xubuntu.
[12:57] <dioioib> funny you say that me too
[12:57] <jony> with which software I can make a screenshot then mark some things on it with a  virtual pen?
[12:58] <ner0x> And the quick keys on unity are all over the place. Geeze.
[12:59] <dioioib> and the icons are so huge
[12:59] <ner0x> Not a fan.
[12:59]  * ner0x is using a gnome3 guide.
[12:59] <ner0x> We'll see how it goes. If not... back to xubuntu
[12:59] <dioioib> well we have options right
[12:59] <dioioib> I had no problems with installing gnome3
[13:00] <ner0x> Using a guide I found online. Should be fine.
[13:00] <dioioib> just don't forget to change the desktop option on the login page. Unity menu bars were gone when I tried to get back in
[13:01] <ner0x> menu option in login? You mean as to which WM to use?
[13:02] <dioioib> yes
[13:03] <dioioib> its simple you'll know it right way when you see it
[13:05] <dioioib> anyone know how to manually map input devices in xorg
[13:09] <gunawan> aloha?
[13:09] <dustinspringman> greetings earthling
[13:10] <gunawan> ??? I don't know what you mean but... hello too.
[13:11] <dustinspringman> gunawan: lol... its a joke.. nerdy way of saying "hello"..
[13:12] <gunawan> I'm sorry,  my english is bad ...
[13:13] <dustinspringman> no worries..
[13:14] <swelogan> dose some one know how to trubbelshoot touchscreens?
[13:14] <gunawan> @swelogan i dunno.
[13:14] <dustinspringman> swelogan: negative, have never had to.. I presume you're trying ubuntu on a mobile device?
[13:15] <swelogan> no, not a mobild device.
[13:15] <swelogan> All in one pc with tc
[13:15] <dustinspringman> swelogan: so, like a touchscreen laptop?
[13:15] <dustinspringman> swelogan: ahhh..I had a Dell M6500 w/ TS..worked flawlessly out of the box with 12.04LTS
[13:16] <swelogan> http://teguar.com/medical-pcs/healthcare-pc/
[13:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> swelogan: I have a touch device, what are you trying to do?
[13:16] <swelogan> I get serial data from ttyS4
[13:17] <CQ> hello, I'm trying to get the URL for the audio stream at http://freestream.nmdn.net/freestream/download/radio21/frameset.html .... wgetting that URL only shows it launnching a .swf player ... any ideas? netstat -an shows the connection... is that enough for listening from teh command line?
[13:17] <swelogan> And when i run the Calib i here the "beep" sound and it move to the next target
[13:18] <swelogan> But when it is finnis it says "BasePoint Data: 3968 128" and "Cant finde a touch sreen"
[13:18] <dustinspringman> CQ: maybe open it with VLC ?
[13:18] <swelogan> And i have use POS Touch driver
[13:21] <CQ> dustinspringman: opening is not the problem, the problem is finding it... I'm looking for the URL, the stuff in netstat I can't open directly
[13:22] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[13:22] <CQ> I guess I need to find out where the .swf player is connecting
[13:22] <CQ> I see firefox pulling the data
[13:22] <cfhowlett> clear
[13:23] <Library> Are there any good tools for installing to a USB Drive? Or do I need to do it the old fashioned way still
[13:24] <ikonia> Library: why would you need tools ?
[13:24] <gunawan> anyone know what's great text editor like notepad++?
[13:24] <ShapeShifter499> I'm finding that my graphics drivers (ATI Radeon HD 4200) run MUCH better in a native windows system, I can't even get the closed-source drivers working in Ubuntu, thus leading me to want to run windows as my main os again but have Ubuntu in a vm.  Anyone know how I could migrate my current ubuntu system to a vm?
[13:24] <ikonia> Library: a usb drive is just a disk
[13:24] <Library> Nevermind, I am going to use unetbootin
[13:24] <Hyperbyte> I have a Ubuntu installation inside a virtual machine.  I want to move this installation to a USB stick.  How can I do this?
[13:24] <Library> I just meant to install as quickly as possible
[13:25] <Hyperbyte> (USB stick, for booting a PC)
[13:25] <ikonia> Library: yes, that changes nothing I've said
[13:25] <ikonia> Library: a usb disk is just a disk
[13:25] <gunawan> anyone know what's great text editor like notepad++?
[13:25] <sharpshooter> hi friends am new to programming/php i want to create multidimensional associative array array(array('name' => 'john', 'email' => 'john@gmail.com')); like this but when I create an array i am getting this output Array (     [name] => Array         (             [0] => john             [1] => john@gmail.com         )      [email] => Array         (             [0] => john             [1] => john@gmail.com         )  ) my souce c
[13:25] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: it's do-able, but it requirese some effort
[13:25] <Pici> sharpshooter: Not really on-topic for this channel, try ##php
[13:25] <ikonia> sharpshooter: use the ##c channel
[13:25] <Library> gunawan use sublime text
[13:26] <Hyperbyte> ikonia, I like effort. :)  Any pointers?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> Hyperbyte, several orders fo magnitude easier to just make a bootable USB from a downloaded ISO
[13:26] <gunawan> Library: thanks buddy...
[13:26] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: high level process....partition disk, create file systems, copy data to correct file systems, update config files (fstab for example) manually apply grub to the boot sector of the new disk
[13:28] <gunawan> awch
[13:28] <Hyperbyte> ikonia, okay, so basically I can create new partitions on the USB disk, then dd the partitions from the virtual machine to the disk, fix configs and grub-install on the USB disk? :)
[13:28] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: not dd
[13:28] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: copy
[13:28] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: dd is block level, you are not copying block to block
[13:28] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: other than that, yes
[13:29] <Hyperbyte> ikonia, I mean dd the partition.  That should work shouldn't it?
[13:29] <Hyperbyte> Not the whole filesystem, just dd vda1 to sdc1
[13:29] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: no, why do you want a block level copy
[13:29] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: sorry, I'll say again, why do you want a block level copy ?
[13:29] <Hyperbyte> Not sure, seemed easier?
[13:29] <ikonia> Hyperbyte: you're changing devices
[13:30] <pepijndevos> If I wan to start a service, should I use /etc/init.d or upstart?
[13:30] <Hyperbyte> ikonia, okay... cp, check. :)
[13:34] <tehfox> hi there, how do I change my used nameservers?
[13:34] <tehfox> in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[13:35] <tehfox> I set them in the network configuration thingy (accessible in the sys tray) but the system still resolves via 127.0.1.1
[13:35] <swelogan> what can i do if ubuntu stops in the midel of the startup? The loading screen with . . . . .
[13:36] <tehfox> and the 127.0.1.1 DNS resolver does really weird stuff with AAAA records which causes 20-second-long timeouts whenever any program (except Firefox where I explicitly disabled ipv6 lookups) tries to resolve anything.
[13:36] <tehfox> mightily annoying after a few days of using it.
[13:36] <Gnea> swelogan: reboot and make sure that the 'quiet splash' options are omitted
[13:37] <tehfox> swelogan: does pressing esc during booting remove the splash and maybe show some messages?
[13:40] <JuenoEnigma> I need help on installing .net 2.0 on wine
[13:41] <tehfox1> nevermind, seems that the settings are not applied after saving, needed to disconnect/connect
[13:44] <swelogan> tehfox: Problem whit xorg.config tyed do change InputDevice to InpuClass. Trying to get my touchscreen to work
[13:44] <boston62> I have a dummy output in ubuntu 12.04, but at the root output is blank, any ideas how to fix this, or maybe point to the right link. Thank you
[13:46] <ecuderpam> Hi.  Is there any command-line tool I could put at the end of a long process that will flash my screen or give a notification?
[13:46] <ecuderpam> i.e., long-build; flash "done"
[13:48] <Leonassan> I am trying to set up a cron job on an Ubuntu 12.04 machine to clear my bash history every 5 minutes. How would I do that? I can't call history -c from cron because it executes in /bin/sh.
[13:48] <gustav_> Hey, where should I go for GTK type chat? Dev stuff.
[13:52] <auronandace> !dash | Leonassan
[13:52] <Leonassan> See, I tried that, but for some reason if I start a script with #!/bin/bash and the next line is history -c and I run that script (in any shell) it doesn't actually clear the history.
[13:57] <somsip> ecuderpam: notify-send any good to you?
[14:00] <nullucas> Hi. What's the easiest way to have custom key combinations? For example, AltGr+s = ʃ, Ctrl+d = ð, etc.
[14:01] <marcus> hellow, how do i boot an installed version of ubuntu on an USB 3.0 128 GB drive?
[14:02] <marcus> it just says "_"
[14:02] <marcus> 13.04........
[14:03] <marcus> ...................?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> marcus, more info needed , "it says" doesn't tell uis much
[14:05] <marcus> i booted on it, and "_" keeps on blinking
[14:05] <BluesKaj> black screen with blinking cursor ?
[14:05] <marcus> yes
[14:05] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | marcus
[14:06] <marcus> ok
[14:07] <marcus> well, problem is, it doesnt boot at all
[14:07] <marcus> so how do i set it?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> marcus, hold the left shift key down immediately after the bios screen , when booting
[14:10] <marcus> ok
[14:10] <BluesKaj> untill grub appears , then follow the instructions on the posted page
[14:11] <marcus> oks thx
[14:11] <Vee_> in which channel can i ask questions about MaaS and Juju
[14:11] <Vee_> ?
[14:15] <marcus> it didnt even show GRUB.....................
[14:16] <Pici> Vee_: #ubuntu-server
[14:16] <Vee_> Pici, thx
[14:17] <yyy_> anyone
[14:17] <my-cool-nickname> Does anybody know who designed the user interface design for Ubuntu/Ubuntu Touch?
[14:18] <yyy_> hi ....
[14:18] <marcus> i held down shift and it doesnt even boot GRUB....................
[14:18] <cfhowlett> yyy_, greetings
[14:19] <yyy_> i have proplem installing ubuntu on my laptop
[14:19] <cfhowlett> ~details|yyy_,
[14:19] <janisozaur> in kernel version string like this: 3.4.5-00588-g0e193de what does 00588 stand for?
[14:20] <marcus> any1 know how to boot USB 3.0 128GB flash, when its installed, and only showup blinking "_" on boot?
[14:20] <yyy_> i burned it on a dvd then booted and then black screen than pressed enter and choosed install ubuntu
[14:21] <cfhowlett> yyy_, and then ...
[14:21] <yyy_> then it gives me black screen and nothing happens
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|yyy_,
[14:21] <OerHeks> marcus, did the nomodeset option not work ?
[14:21] <marcus> i held down shift, and grub didnt boot........
[14:23] <OerHeks> marcus, i think you pressed too late, try again and press repeatedly after the biosscreen
[14:23] <marcus> i pressed first 10000 times all the time, next time i held it down exactly after bios, before blinking........
[14:24] <marcus> u want me to try again?
[14:26] <joeee222> I'm using a netgear wg111v2 wireless usb network card.. in network manager... not every network is showing up like on my other laptop
[14:26] <joeee222> is there another way to scan for networks?
[14:26]  * BluesKaj wonders if grub was actually installed on marcus' pc
[14:27] <joeee222> they're right next to each other... its not a range thing
[14:27] <szx> can gnome keyring remember passwords for ssh keys that are not in ~/.ssh but in ~/.ssh/sub/dir ?
[14:27] <marcus> how2 reinstall grub?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> !grub|marcus,
[14:27] <marcus> kk
[14:28] <olivier_bK> hi
[14:28] <cfhowlett> olivier_bK, greetings
[14:28] <olivier_bK> thanks cfhowlett
[14:29] <olivier_bK>  i have a question somebody have all ready creat a repository for rpm packages ?
[14:29] <yyy_> so i have to choose nomodest then choose install ubuntu ..... ok done but still black screen
[14:29] <cfhowlett> olivier_bK, ? rpm?  ubuntu used .deb ...
[14:30] <olivier_bK> i know but in my compagnie we asking to me to creat a repository for centos on ubuntu
[14:30] <olivier_bK> :)
[14:31] <cfhowlett> olivier_bK, maybe they're testing you.  At any rate,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[14:33] <olivier_bK> i dont think so cfhowlett
[14:34] <Pici> !info createrepo | olivier_bK
[14:34] <kjdigh> hello everyone
[14:35] <olivier_bK> i found this package but all the times when i create my repository  i get the same error
[14:35] <cfhowlett> kjdigh, greetings
[14:35] <yyy_>  so i have to choose nomodest then choose install ubuntu ..... ok done but still black screen
[14:35] <olivier_bK> when i tried to active the repo Error getting repository data for local.repo, repository not found
[14:35] <cfhowlett> yyy_, did you md5sum the iso?  and run "check disk for errors" on your boot disk?
[14:36] <yyy_> how can i md5sum the iso
[14:37] <cfhowlett> md5sum|yyy_,
[14:37] <joeee222> Anyone know the command to rescan for wireless networks via terminal?
[14:37] <Capprentice> Hi ! can you tell me how can I repair a broken rar file ? I was downloading it and it is half downloaded. This rar contains wallpapers. I have used Winrar manytimes to repair rar archives on Windows. How can I do the same on Ubuntu ?
[14:37] <theadmin> joeee222: iwlist INTERFACE scan
[14:37] <joeee222> thanks theadmin
[14:37] <theadmin> joeee222: Where INTERFACE is the wireless interface to scan on, e.g. wlan0 or eth1
[14:37] <joeee222> yes, i understand. thank you.
[14:37] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|yyy_,
[14:38] <kjdigh> I have a little problem with apache. In fact, on my web site "exemple.net" I have some different pages like "test","me","youpi" and in every page I have a "admin" directory which permit administration trough authentication. I'm looking for a rewrite rule which permit to change http to https when "admin" is joined trough exemple.net/test/admin, exemple.net/me/admin and exemple.net/youpi/admin
[14:38] <Capprentice> Hello ? is there anyone who can put some info on repairing rar on Ubuntu ? is there any Gui tool ?
[14:38] <theadmin> Capprentice: rar r blahrar
[14:39] <Capprentice> theadmin:  ?? what did you mean ? !!@!#
[14:39]  * Zazhia query Karnath
[14:39] <Zazhia> woops xD
[14:39] <theadmin> Capprentice: That's a CLI command, "rar r /path/to/archive.rar"
[14:39] <theadmin> Capprentice: You need to have rar installed, of course.
[14:39] <Capprentice> theadmin: Yes I have that. Ok im trying this command.
[14:40] <deluge> where should the device for bootlader installation point to please? ive installed 12.04 2x now and on restart it doesnt boot
[14:41] <cfhowlett> deluge, normally it installs to the hdd e.g. /dev/sda
[14:41] <theadmin> deluge: /dev/sda normally
[14:41] <deluge> yup thats where its pointing @
[14:42] <deluge> hmmm dunno what else to do now, i think my partitioning is right
[14:42] <deluge> it boots after a restart to a kernal panic, not sycing  init not found (something like that)
[14:42] <Na_Klar> I have a delock expresscard to sata. I activated the pciehd driver. The card is recognized fine. But the connected SATA disk is not recognized. What do?
[14:43] <theadmin> deluge: That's not a bootloader error
[14:43] <theadmin> deluge: The OS has likely failed to install properly.
[14:43] <deluge> ok... what have i done wrong do you think?
[14:43] <marcoss> What satanic mean?
[14:44] <theadmin> deluge: I dunno, does your system meet the minimum requirements? (512M RAM, 5GB disk space?)
[14:44] <deluge> its a brand new 1tb hd...64bit 12.04 on unetbooting, the install seems to go fine, asks for a restart etc
[14:44] <deluge> yeah its got 2GB ram and 1tb new hdd
[14:45] <helmut_> hi
[14:45] <jhutchin1_wk> deluge: Does it boot if the USB device is connected?
[14:46] <test__> .
[14:46] <deluge> yeah i can boot from the usb and try ubuntu,
[14:46] <deluge> works fine
[14:48] <deluge> was hoping to do 60gb for home, 920gb for /home and 20gb swap
[14:48] <deluge> usually i just do use the entire disk on installs and have no problems
[14:48] <jhutchin1_wk> deluge: I meant does the install boot if the USB device is present.
[14:48] <deluge> no it doesnt matter, i tried both ways
[14:49] <jhutchin1_wk> deluge: Most likely the device name changes depending on whether the USB is present.
[14:49] <jhutchin1_wk> deluge: Your symptom means that the root defined in grub is not where it should be.
[14:49] <deluge> what should i do to correct that?
[14:50] <deluge> i messed something up in the partitioning?
[14:50] <jhutchin1_wk> deluge: This may help: http://answers.oreilly.com/topic/44-how-to-discover-boot-parameters-from-the-grub-command-shell/
[14:50] <jhutchin1_wk> deluge: No, it's a known problem that just happens sometimes.
[14:50] <deluge> thanks jhutchin1_wk reading that now
[14:52] <shanky_> Unable to detect any Bluetooth device on Ubuntu 12.10.1
[14:52] <shanky_> Can any one help ?
[14:55] <yugal> @yugal I am also facing the same problem with my ubuntu
[14:55] <yugal> I have about 5 bluetooth devices but ubuntu is unable to detect any of them
[14:56] <shanky_> @yugal same here... unable to detect any of the devices
[14:56] <solancer> hey guys I have a question
[14:56] <solancer> http://askubuntu.com/questions/183269/regular-installation-or-live-usb-with-reserved-space
[14:57] <solancer> can I run ubuntu from usb for normal use ?
[14:57] <shanky_> @solancer - yes you can
[14:57] <solancer> would it be as fast as my normal PC
[14:57] <solancer> shanky_, will it be fast ?
[14:58] <shanky_> if your normal PC is windows - It would perform better
[14:58] <histo> solancer: yes. I would use the install to usb from the boot menu on the install disk to do it. Or make a persistant usb.  But add opitons like noatime and mount /var/log /tmp etc.. to tmpfs
[14:58] <histo> shanky_: It would perform better booting off of hard disk
[14:58] <yyy> i choosed check cd for error still black screen
[14:58] <histo> !md5sum | yyy
[14:59] <shanky_> yep..
[14:59] <shanky_> if you are using windows then wubi is a better option compared to booting evertime from usb
[14:59] <solancer> histo, wow thats sounds new, can I get a link for reference
[14:59] <yyy> i tried md5sum ... but nothing
[14:59] <histo> solancer: link for reference on what?
[14:59] <VinceThePrince> How to ensure that yakuake loads .bash_profile
[15:00] <histo> shanky_: no I would dualboot
[15:00] <histo> !dualboot | shanky
[15:00] <shanky_> Hey guys any ideas about - "Bluetooth not detecting any devices on Ubuntu 12.10" ?
[15:00] <solancer> histo, options  like noatime and mount /var/log /tmp etc
[15:00] <histo> shanky_: use wubi if you are scared
[15:00] <histo> solancer: People with ssd use it.
[15:00] <shanky_> yep - use wubi if you are scared..
[15:00] <BluesKaj> or a VM
[15:00] <joeee222> Any idea why the same wireless networks arent showing up on both laptops? I tried using "Connect to a hidden network" and manually entering the information... it was a no go.
[15:01] <solancer> shanky_, check for additional drivers
[15:01] <shanky_> I started with wubi and ended up complete solo installation of ubuntu in a month
[15:01] <shanky_> :)
[15:01] <histo> joeee222: check with sudo iwlist scan
[15:01] <histo> shanky_: then why are you asking?
[15:01] <shanky_> solancer: additional drivers suggests only for graphics - am I wrong on tha t?
[15:01] <histo> VinceThePrince: It should be loading .bash_profile when it starts
[15:02] <yyy>  i tried md5sum ... but nothing
[15:02] <solancer> histo, so I can jus install ubuntu on my usb drive like I'd normally do on my PC ?
[15:02] <histo> VinceThePrince: put some variable in your profile then echo it to see if it's loading
[15:02] <histo> yyy: what do you mean nothing?
[15:02] <jan__> .
[15:02] <joeee222> I see the same ones in iwlist scan
[15:02] <yyy> i mean still black screen
[15:02] <histo> solancer: Yeah they have a install to usb option from the boot menu now I belive.  But thumb drives are block devices just like hard drives.  Technically I can install ubuntu instide of a file
[15:03] <VinceThePrince> histo, I type: "echo .bash_profile" and it returns ".bash_profile"
[15:03] <jhutchins_wk> Dual-boot is much better than wubi.
[15:03] <histo> yyy: Can you give details about your problem in one line and ask what you are having problems with
[15:04] <jhutchins_wk> VinceThePrince: correct.
[15:04] <histo> VinceThePrince: No put a variable in .bash_profile and then echo $THATVARIABLE  you will see that it's reading it
[15:04] <joshuakade> How do I make a .jar file executable? I try to click the check-box but it won't let me for security reasons, and I know the file is safe.
[15:04] <deluge> jhutchins_wk: i am out of my depth and none of that stuff in the link seemed to match what i was seeing, i am going to do a guided set up i guess so much for my partitioning skills :(
[15:04] <jhutchins_wk> VinceThePrince: Perhaps you mean to do cat .bash_profile?
[15:04] <roygbiv> hi. i've attached a usb hard drive to my system, created an xfs filesystem and mounted it fine but it appears to disconnect itself randomly and then show up with a new /dev name, causing my mount to hang. any ideas how to prevent this?
[15:05] <histo> VinceThePrince: You should put stuff in .bashrc though
[15:05] <histo> VinceThePrince: here is a helpfull page explaining.  http://www.joshstaiger.org/archives/2005/07/bash_profile_vs.html  Might be able to help if you ask your next question the ultimate one.
[15:06] <VinceThePrince> histo, I will read it thanks
[15:06] <jhutchins_wk> deluge: I would attempt to find root.  I don't think your partitioning is wrong - it's very flexible.
[15:06] <yyy> i did and someone told me try nomodeset and try md5sum and gived me some links .... proplem that when i boot and select install ubuntu it just gives black screen
[15:06] <histo> roygbiv: mount by UUID to ignore the dev change.  And check dmesg for output when it disconnects reconnects. Possibly a bad cable?
[15:07] <histo> yyy: boot the cd. Don't choose install. Hit the options one. then add nomodeset
[15:07] <jhutchins_wk> yyy: Have you tried verifying the image outside fo the installer?
[15:07] <roygbiv> histo i've thought about the cable too. i will try your UUID suggestion too. thanks very much
[15:07] <histo> yyy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-to-set-nomodeset-for-installation#38834
[15:08] <dashbad> Can someone help me upgrade a kernel module on 12.04? All the documentation points to installing new modules but I just want to upgrade. Can I just switch out the .ko in /lib/modules….. and do a modprobe -r then load it again with modprobe?
[15:08] <histo> roygbiv: np sudo blkid should show the UUID of the device while it's connected
[15:08] <histo> dashbad: I believe you have to make it aware that the new .ko is there.
[15:08] <roygbiv> histo yep that worked! very much appreciated
[15:09] <yyy> i choosed nomodeset then install ...still black screen
[15:09] <joshuakade> How do I make a .jar file executable? I try to click the check-box but it won't let me for security reasons, and I know the file is safe.
[15:09] <dashbad> @histo does modprobe not do that? Or do I need to run another command?
[15:09] <histo> yyy: Okay verify your cd on a different machine. From outside of the installer.
[15:10] <yyy> how to verify
[15:10] <histo> dashbad: it should nvm me
[15:11] <roygbiv> joshuakade one way is to make a script that calls "java -jar myjarfile.jar"
[15:11] <joshuakade> How do I navigate to the file but it won't let me because the external drive has spaces in the name so it returns a bash
[15:12] <joshuakade> Need to pay attention to my grammer :P
[15:12] <roygbiv> just something like: cd "/my external drive"
[15:12] <yyy> how do iverify the cd histo
[15:12] <histo> joshuakade: cd to\ file\ with \spaces
[15:13] <jhutchins_wk> joshuakade: You probably need sudo to change permissions on the file.
[15:13] <histo> !md5sum | yyy
[15:13] <histo> yyy: that page has instructions on how to do it.
[15:13] <DrGrov> Hi. How would I easily get my 12.04 install to be without nVidia rendering but still keep my xorg.conf monitor resolution set at 1920x1080?
[15:13] <dashbad> histo thanks
[15:13] <joshuakade> How do I change to sudo? Can I change permissions from terminal
[15:13] <histo> dashbad: what are you trying to build an upgraded module for?
[15:14] <histo> !sudo | joshuakade
[15:14] <yyy>  i tried it but still gives me black screen histo
[15:14] <histo> yyy: You don't do it from the cd
[15:14] <dashbad> histo, I have an Areca RAID card that is playing up and Areca have told me to install an updated driver
[15:14] <histo> yyy: Use another machine to verify the cd
[15:14] <carpediembaby> hi, i have a linux question. about ssh. i have a server with X11 forwarding enabled (checked it in /etc/ssh/ssh_config). but i can't open anything. i get Cant open display localhost:25.0 . any pointers?
[15:14] <histo> yyy: like go in windows and get and md5sum of the cd your burnt using the instructions I provided you.
[15:15] <histo> carpediembaby: are you using ssh -Y or ssh -X
[15:15] <dashbad> it is a bit odd as the driver has been provisioned as part of the kernel since 2.7 or thereabouts but the version in the 3.5 kernel on 12.04 server is slightly old
[15:15] <KolakCC> !deb
[15:15] <carpediembaby> histo used both. same results
[15:15] <histo> dashbad: What is the driver for?
[15:15] <pypo> hello all
[15:16] <histo> carpediembaby: Are you using putty?
[15:16] <dashbad> histo an Areca 1882x RAID card
[15:16] <pypo> I have a question about metadata anonymisation kit
[15:16] <histo> dashbad: odd usually that stuff just works.  Especially if it's had support for so long.
[15:17] <carpediembaby> histo: im on a mac
[15:17] <pypo> I just tried it and saw that it retained the whole file location. does it also not need to be anonymised?
[15:17] <histo> carpediembaby: You need a local X server on the client to run the X apps.
[15:17] <DrGrov> The reason I ask is that I have issues with rendering but it is not needed per se. I just want to have a resolution at 1920x1080.
[15:17] <dashbad> histo yeah, it worked out of the box but I can't get ubuntu to see a passthrough disk from my Array and Areca support have asked me update the driver, its the same version driver, but a later build date
[15:17] <histo> carpediembaby: there is an X server for mac I can't remember the name of it currently. But something with the newest macOS you have to install it to get local X server working
[15:18] <histo> dashbad: well you could try loading their .ko
[15:18] <mbduino> anyone know of an issue with Ubuntu causing wireless router resets?
[15:18] <carpediembaby> histo: its different from what i need for standard ssh (without X11 support)? because i can login just fine if i don't need x11
[15:19] <dashbad> histo. I will do. what confuses me is that the docs say I need to add it to /etc/modules but I can't see the current version there. Is that because its provisioned into the kernel at boot through another process?
[15:19] <mbduino> both windows and ubuntu machines on wireless g channel 11, but it seems once I ssh from windows to ubuntu and begin doing things, the router resets and the connection is dropped on both computers
[15:20] <histo> carpediembaby: Yeah giv eme one second I'll find the app on the mac side that you need
[15:20] <roygbiv> x11 for mac is at http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki/X112.7.4
[15:20] <mbduino> is it the router or...?
[15:21] <histo> carpediembaby: which version of OSX are you running on the mac?
[15:21] <pypo> anyone can help me with my question about metadata anonymisation kit?
[15:22] <mbduino> wow, you'd think for being probably the most widely used linux desktop, it wouldn't be this buggy
[15:22] <joshuakade> How do I call an external drive
[15:22] <histo> md_5: it's not that buggy
[15:22] <yebyen> mbduino: it sounds like your router is the one that's buggy
[15:22] <carpediembaby> histo its lion
[15:22] <histo> mbduino: it's not that buggy.
[15:22] <joshuakade> In terminal
[15:22] <mbduino> this is a seriously loss of productivity for me to spend this much time getting ubuntu to cooperate so I can use it as a rails server
[15:23] <carpediembaby> histo: 10.7.5
[15:23] <yebyen> mbduino: have you tried a different router?
[15:23] <mbduino> I don't have a different router to try
[15:23] <mbduino> I had to change reset the router, change the channel, and only then would Ubuntu maintain a wireless connection without dropping every 30 seconds
[15:23] <joshuakade> I use this command to call the external drive and a directory within: cd /media/joshuakade/Seagate Expansion Drive/Feed the Beast
[15:24] <yebyen> mbduino: well i had a "new" router that gave me problems like that when I started racheting up the bandwidth usage to anything above DSL speeds
[15:24] <mbduino> that took me about a day, and now it's kicking all my nodes off the network when I try to ssh and do anything
[15:24] <histo> carpediembaby: yeah you need something like xquartz there are others but I can't remember the name
[15:24] <mbduino> it literally disconnects my windows machine and itself
[15:24] <yebyen> mbduino: i recognize that you don't have this problem without ubuntu, but from everything you say I would blame the router
[15:24] <joshuakade> and it returns this: bash: cd: /media/joshuakade/Seagate Expansion Drive/Feed the Beast
[15:24] <roygbiv> apple recommends xquartz
[15:24] <phantom777> how do i convert a .tar file to .iso in ubuntu?
[15:25] <mbduino> how is the router at fault when all my other machines connect just fine? it's only when I introduce ubuntu into the picture that the router begins acting weird
[15:25] <histo> mbduino: I highly doubt its you linux box.  Turn it off and use your windows box with wireless and some other wireless client and watch you router reset
[15:25] <yebyen> phantom777: what are you converting?  if you need a bootable iso it's not quite that simple
[15:25] <histo> mbduino: What's your wifi chipset
[15:25] <carpediembaby> histo: okay thanks! trying it now. will let you know :)
[15:25] <mbduino> I have 2 iPads, 2 Windows desktops, been going fine like that up until I reinstalled my laptop with Ubuntu
[15:25] <roygbiv> mbduino maybe you have an ip address conflict?
[15:25] <histo> carpediembaby: roygbiv said apple recomends xquartz
[15:26] <yebyen> i don't think it's an ip address conflict, but I don't have anything else to suggest
[15:26] <joshuakade> and it returns this: bash: cd: /media/joshuakade/Seagate: no such file or directory
[15:26] <mbduino> no, DHCP reservation for my laptop
[15:26] <histo> mbduino: flush your routing tables on the router
[15:26] <mbduino> I've already reset it
[15:26] <phantom777> yebyen, its an dvd image thats on .tar format, and i just want it to be .iso so i can burn it
[15:26] <mbduino> wifi chipset on the laptop running ubuntu is bcm43225
[15:26] <histo> mbduino: did you install the firmware?
[15:26] <roygbiv> yes apple used to supply x11 itself but recently stopped doing that and recommended xquartz instead
[15:26] <yebyen> phantom777: tar is like zip... it probably has an ISO in it
[15:26] <histo> mbduino: for the broadcom?
[15:26] <yebyen> phantom777: tar xvf {file.tar}
[15:26] <histo> !bcm | mbduino
[15:27] <phantom777>  yebyen uhm, really? How do i get the iso out then?
[15:27] <yebyen> phantom777: extract the tar file... you can use commandline "tar xvf file.tar" or you can use Archive Manager
[15:28] <histo> phantom777: untar it
[15:28] <phantom777> yebyen, lol i cant believe this, let me see.
[15:28] <histo> phantom777: if it's not in iso form inside the tar you can mkisofs
[15:28] <yebyen> but if it's meant to be a bootable ISO, you're going to have to read carefully the man page for mkisofs
[15:28] <yebyen> and in that case you're probably doing it wrong
[15:29] <marcus> why is Ubuntu slower on a disk-speed 200/100 USB than a 120/50 HDD?
[15:29] <histo> phantom777: where did you get a tar'd iso and what is it for?
[15:29] <yebyen> if the tar file contains an ISO you're most likely in good shape though
[15:29] <phantom777> histo,  lol i cant...
[15:29] <histo> phantom777: you can't what?
[15:29] <raj> how do you apt-get search?
[15:30] <SIGKILLer> apt-cache search
[15:30] <raj> aah, thanks
[15:30] <dreamy_> does ubuntu has an offtopic secction for electronics? anyone helping?
[15:31] <phantom777> histo, i cant tell
[15:31] <raj> how do I get apt to use the latest repo?
[15:31] <histo> dreamy_: #ubuntu-offtopic isn't specific to electronics
[15:31] <chilicuil> hello, good morning, I'm using a minimal ubuntu setup, and slim (a login manager) fails to starts X from init, it boots to a tty and from there I login and run $ sudo service slim start #which bring it on, I wonder how can I force slim to start X up
[15:31] <histo> phantom777: You can't tell what?  You aren't speaking in complete sentances
[15:31] <dreamy_> histo, what about the topics on the web?
[15:31] <dreamy_> the forumns on the web
[15:31] <histo> chilicuil: configure slim properly
[15:32] <phantom777> yebyen, i used tar xvf and it listed the files inside, how do i extract it?
[15:32] <histo> dreamy_: there are tons of electronics channels i'm sure here on freenode.
[15:32] <chilicuil> histo: that doesn't explain why when I run it from services it boots correctly
[15:32] <roygbiv> phantom777, you did ;)
[15:32] <histo> chilicuil: probably because slim isn't set to start on boot
[15:32] <yebyen> phantom777: that has extracted it verbosely
[15:32] <yebyen> phantom777: the files listed were extracted into current directory
[15:33] <yebyen> phantom777: if you had said tar tvf, then it would have only just listed them
[15:33] <histo> chilicuil: update-rc.d slim enable  or something similar may sort you out
[15:33] <phantom777> yebyen, thanks you!
[15:33] <phantom777> yebyen, it was sooo simple
[15:33] <chilicuil> histo: it is, I thought someone else here, could had the same problem, I'll dig on it, thanks for replying =)
[15:33] <raj> how do I update apt's sources?
[15:33] <yebyen> phantom777: i'm glad you feel that way, a lot of my friends who don't try linux would balk at those instructions
[15:33] <histo> chilicuil: it is what?
[15:34] <chilicuil> raj: edit /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[15:34] <histo> raj: sudo apt-get update
[15:34] <smartracer> hi is there any other GUI like cinnamon?
[15:34] <histo> !notunity | smartracer
[15:34] <mbduino> what installs the firmware, apt-get install b43-fwcutter and that's it?
[15:34] <phantom777> yebyen, i use ubuntu in vbox, and have shared folders :)
[15:34] <raj> histo that didn't give me the latest repos
[15:34] <chilicuil> histo: that it doesnt force to start the X server on startup.., maybe it's a graphic driver problem or something
[15:35] <histo> raj: what are you trying to do exactly?
[15:35] <raj> I want the same repo used on 12.04
[15:35] <yebyen> phantom777: i use winos 7 in vmplayer :)
[15:35] <histo> chilicuil: so slim starts on boot but when you login X doesn't start?
[15:35] <smartracer> i want to try new so onlly asked
[15:35] <phantom777> yebyen, what is vmplayer? is it like vbox?
[15:35] <histo> chilicuil: I'm confused by your question ask again in one line maybe I will get it this time.
[15:35] <histo> raj: what version of ubuntu areyou running
[15:36] <raj> 11.10
[15:36] <histo> raj: you would have to upgrade to 12.04 or find a ppa for a specific package that you are looking for
[15:36] <histo> !upgrade | raj
[15:36] <joshuakade> Is there any way to set the screen resolution to a full HD display? (1080i)
[15:36] <chilicuil> histo: it doesn't start when the system boots up, but it does when I start it manually, the logs looks like this: https://pastee.org/3sejx
[15:37] <raj> histo, sorry, i meant I want 12.10's packages, and I have 12.04
[15:37] <histo> chilicuil: k one sec I will check
[15:37] <raj> can't I just update the sources apt uses?
[15:37] <histo> raj: either way you have to upgrade
[15:37] <raj> why?
[15:37] <chilicuil> histo: so I suppose the X server is not ready when slim try to start at boot time, but it's ready from the time I log in and then run it manually
[15:37] <histo> raj: because using those packages will break things if all their dependancies can't be met.
[15:37] <mm666> Hi, I am a long time linux/ubuntu user, but after installing 12.04.2 LTS amd64 with the 3.5 quantal kernel I have troubles finding the matching kernel sources to compile my custom drivers. Where can I find those?
[15:37] <histo> smartracer: they probably have a cinnamon ppa
[15:38] <raj> histo, but the dependencies are available in the repo as well
[15:38] <raj> no?
[15:38] <raj> so things will be upgraded if need-be
[15:38] <smartracer> i need to know is there any other gui u know
[15:38] <histo> raj: You would be essential just upgrading to 12.10 if you use those repos
[15:38] <marcus> Yo, I installed ubuntu 13.04 on USB 3.0 128GB with faster speed than HDD, why is the OS stuttering and being slow?......
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> marcus  because 13.04 isnt ready yet
[15:39] <histo> raj: if youw ant one particular package then I suggest looking in backports or using a ppa if you don't want to completely upgrade to 12.10
[15:39] <histo> raj: or install from source.
[15:39] <mbduino> when installing bcm firmware, is it the b43-fwcutter that does it?
[15:39] <marcus> oks
[15:39] <mbduino> when I do apt-get install, it's installed at that point?
[15:39] <histo> marcus: usb 3.0?
[15:39] <marcus> yes
[15:40] <histo> chilicuil: when you start it manually it works fine right?
[15:40] <chilicuil> histo: yep
[15:40] <histo> chilicuil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1659567 here is a fix if it's starting to early
[15:40] <carpediembaby> hipto i still get the same
[15:40] <tanya_> hi. I just installed ubuntu on my laptop Lenovo 430, but there is no wireless. What should I do?
[15:41] <chilicuil> histo: I'll check it out, thanks for your time!
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | tanya_ start here
[15:41] <SASDOE_> can someone confirm that i can use a desktop live cd to repair a corrupted server filesystem ?
[15:41] <SASDOE_> sorry if i'm double posting had a bug
[15:41] <tgm4883> SASDOE, there isn't any difference between the two other than default installed packages
[15:42] <histo> SASDOE_: yes
[15:42] <tanya_> MonkeyDust, ok. but I don't know what is my wireless card
[15:42] <SASDOE_> great thx for such a prompt answer
[15:43] <mm666> where can I find the sources for the 12.04.2 lts kernel (3.5.0-23-generic)?
[15:43] <tgm4883> mm666, apt-get source <packagename>
[15:43] <histo> chilicuil: looks like a bug to me
[15:43] <SASDOE_> also i was planning on installing 12.10 on my mbp. can i use a 12.10 cd for a 12.04 system or do i need to use to cds ?
[15:44] <tgm4883> SASDOE_, I don't understand the question
[15:44] <chilicuil> histo: yep, it seems to me too, I'll dig on it and request a merge if I can fix it
[15:44] <histo> chilicuil: there are several apps i've seen that haven't been converted to upstart
[15:45] <SASDOE_> well i need to burn a desktop live cd to fix my 12.04 server, and i was hoping to only burn one cd and use v12.10 for desktop to install on my mbp, as well as to fix server
[15:45] <tgm4883> ah
[15:45] <histo> SASDOE_: yeah you can fix from 12.10 desktop cd
[15:45] <mbduino> hrm
[15:45] <mbduino> firmware
[15:45] <mbduino> ;askdjf;lkajdsf;lkjasd;lfjkasdf
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> SASDOE_  desktop cd can be used 'live', server is an installer
[15:45] <histo> SASDOE_: it's jsut a live distro so you can download tools while you are booted to it to yoru filesystems etc...
[15:46] <SASDOE_> great thx for these answers guys
[15:46] <SASDOE_> ok
[15:46] <tanya_> hi. I just installed ubuntu 12.10 64bit on my laptop Lenovo 430, but there is no wireless. I see It is supported here: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201201-10390/components/
[15:46] <boston62> this is my Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) but have dummy output, help...
[15:47] <chilicuil> histo: yep, and the upstart job is already there, I'll double check that it gets to the maintainer
[15:47] <mm666> tgm4883: thx, the kernal package is linux-image-generic-lts-quantal. If I do a 'apt-get source linux-image-generic-lts-quantal' I only get a very small file "linux-meta-lts-quantal_3.5.0.26.33.tar.gz" and not the full source...
[15:47] <histo> tanya_: what chipset do you have?  lspci  will show you what chipset your wireless card is
[15:47] <tgm4883> mm666, that is because that is a metapackage
[15:48] <mm666> ok, so how do I get the real package name?
[15:48] <histo> mm666: investigate the metapackage and get what it's dependancies are
[15:48] <SASDOE_> oh well looks like i'll have no choice but to go for 12.04.. CDs are 700mb, 12.04 is 695 (!!) and 12.10 is 765
[15:48] <histo> mm666: linux-image-$(uname -r)    should be the running kernel if that's of any help
[15:48] <tgm4883> mm666, looks like it depends on linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic
[15:49] <histo> mm666: so you could apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> SASDOE_  mind: use the desktop version, if you want a 'live' session
[15:49] <tanya_> histo, it says 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[15:49] <tgm4883> mm666, I just did 'apt-cache show linux-image-generic-lts-quantal' to get that
[15:49] <SASDOE_> no i know i need the desktop v, just can't use 12.10 because my cds aren't big enough
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> !bcm | tanya_ then this is for you
[15:50] <histo> tanya_: do you have wired internet availible to fix?
[15:50] <mm666> tgm4883: Thx, apt-get source linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic worked like a charm.
[15:50] <dudeguy> so ubuntu is buggy
[15:50] <histo> tanya_: if so click on the gear by the clock go to settings > Software sources > Hardware tab   and install the drivers for your broadcom card
[15:51] <histo> dudeguy: nope
[15:51] <dreamy_> can anyone tell me how i can install a working equalizer ? with synaptics or apt?
[15:51] <histo> dudeguy: what do you see thats buggy?
[15:51] <dudeguy> very generalized answer
[15:51] <dreamy_> or recomend me a good equalizer
[15:51] <histo> very generalized question
[15:51] <histo> !best | dreamy_
[15:52] <dudeguy> histo: nothing in particular that i can find now, but i do remember running into a few problems a few years back. But I know ubuntu is constantly improving.
[15:52] <tgm4883> dudeguy, then why the "ubuntu is buggy"
[15:52] <dreamy_> ok, tho im having trouble finding an equalizer on synaptics
[15:53] <dreamy_> my sound is distorting
[15:53] <marcus> Hello, could a reason why my Ubuntu on 3.0 USB (faster speed than HDD) is stuttering be "Error: File not found" at startup? or is it just 13.04.....
[15:53] <histo> !sound | dreamy_
[15:53] <histo> marcus: What are you trying to do?
[15:54] <marcus> im just opening folders and such on an USB 3.0 installed ubuntu
[15:54] <marcus> says "Error: File not found" on startup
[15:54] <tanya_> histo, MonkeyDust thank you. i purged some packages and will reboot now
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> marcus  if you're using 13.04, then ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:55] <marcus> kk
[15:58] <dreamy_> histo, id like to install "alsa equlizer" i did it before , now i cant
[15:58] <histo> dreamy_: I see libasound2-plugin-equal ?? This one?
[15:59] <dreamy_> can i try that one?
[15:59] <histo> dreamy_: I dont' know if it's what you are looking for it should have came up if you did a search in the software center for equalizer
[15:59] <histo> dreamy_: i just did apt-cache search equalizer
[15:59] <histo> !info libasound2-plugin-equal
[16:00] <dreamy_> ty]
[16:00] <histo> dreamy_: I'm not too familiar with it as I haven't had a need for one.
[16:01] <histo> !manual > mind_spree
[16:02] <histo> !pm > mind_spree
[16:07] <histo> shhh
[16:07] <histo> 1800+ being quiet scary
[16:12] <pypo> hello, my upgrade to 12.10. seems to get stuck at this line: Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin ... the upgrade didnt progress for about the last hour
[16:13] <D_D> Hey guys...
[16:13] <D_D> need help.. somebody there to answer me a question?
[16:13] <tgm4883> !ask | D_D
[16:14] <pypo> can anyone help me with my above problem?
[16:14] <tgm4883> !ask | pypo
[16:14] <tgm4883> sorry
[16:14] <tgm4883> I suppose that should have been !patience
[16:14] <D_D> i installed postfix and dovecote.. i can send mails but not get mails
[16:14] <D_D> what did i wrong?
[16:14] <pypo> sorry, waiting :)
[16:15] <TK-999> D_D: Email client properly configured to pull from server?
[16:15] <D_D> TK-999 yes with imap.. but my thunderbirds connects and gets the folders but no mails..
[16:15] <histo> D_D: did you update your dns?
[16:16] <D_D> of course
[16:16] <D_D> many times
[16:16] <TK-999> D_D: !paste your main.cf
[16:16] <histo> D_D: is the mail on the server?
[16:16] <TK-999> https://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:16] <adamk> D_D: So the server is getting the mails, but the mail clinets (thunderbird in this case) isn't seeing them?
[16:16] <D_D> no it is not on the server..
[16:17] <histo> D_D: can you send mail locally while logged into the server and does it get delivered?
[16:17] <D_D> no that doesn´t also function
[16:17] <adamk> D_D: So what does the postfix log file show?  Are other servers actually connecting to send mail over?
[16:17] <histo> sounds like postfix is buggered
[16:18] <D_D> where can i find the logs from postfix?
[16:18] <histo> D_D: /var/log
[16:18] <adamk> Oh dear...
[16:18] <histo> lol
[16:18] <D_D> no other servers had connection to send over..
[16:19] <cirrus]> hello
[16:19] <cirrus]> I can't use microphone. it doesn't appear in my settings - only loopback shows up. I'm using Xubuntu 12.10. Do you have any idea what can I do?
[16:19] <histo> D_D: start locally on the server itself. Get mail working there to local users
[16:19] <dmonjo>  dpkg -l | grep vpxrc  libvpx1                         1.0.0-1                    VP8 video codec (shared library)
[16:20] <dmonjo> how can i remove this package?
[16:20] <dmonjo> rc means removed?
[16:20] <cirrus]> (my microphone is build in laptop)
[16:20] <Walther> Hello folks! Using a HD 7970, I get a watermark in the lower-right corner of my screen sayinhg "Unsupported hardware". AMD proprietary drivers are installed from repositories (fglrx), catalyst control center version shows 12.9
[16:21] <histo> dman7: yes removed but not purged
[16:21] <adamk> Walther: The driver does not officially support your GPU.  You could try a newer driver, or there are hacks you can use to try and remove the watermark.
[16:21] <histo> dman7: sry
[16:22] <D_D>  postfix/trivial-rewrite[7189]: warning: do not list domain mydomain.com in BOTH mydestination and virtual_mailbox_domains
[16:22] <D_D> how can i fix this?
[16:22] <histo> D_D: yes you need to remove whatever.com from mydestination
[16:23] <histo> D_D: if it is referenced in virtual_mailbox_domains
[16:23] <histo> D_D: in your /etc/postfix/main.cf
[16:23] <adamk> Walther: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMD_Catalyst has a section on removing the watermark.
[16:25] <cirrus]> ok, never mind
[16:25] <D_D> ok i removed it.. did i restart any services?
[16:26] <histo> D_D: sudo service postfix restart
[16:27] <pypo> does anyone still remember me?
[16:27] <D_D> you are awesome.. it worked..
[16:28] <chunkyhead> is there a way/package to be able to view images in the terminal?
[16:28] <D_D> thx.. last question.. i installed open xChange an every time i logged in to ox6 i got this error...
[16:28] <histo> chunkyhead: fbi I think can do it in frame buffer
[16:28] <D_D> the email module is not aviable...
[16:29] <chunkyhead> histo, how to run fbi? i installed it ran fbi filename.extension
[16:29] <chunkyhead> doesn't work
[16:29] <histo> chunkyhead: you need a working frame buffer
[16:29] <chunkyhead> histo, how to do that
[16:29] <histo> chunkyhead: do you get an error?
[16:30] <histo> chunkyhead: what kind of install do you have?
[16:30] <chunkyhead> using "DejaVu Sans Mono-16", pixelsize=16.67 file=/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSansMono.ttf
[16:30] <chunkyhead> ioctl VT_GETSTATE: Invalid argument (not a linux console?)
[16:30] <chunkyhead>  histo
[16:30] <D_D> ok.. local it is working.. if i send a mail from a ext server i got a error called...  550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.7.17)
[16:31] <histo> chunkyhead: permissions issue with /dev/fb0 try sudo fbi imagename
[16:31] <D_D> any ideas histo
[16:31] <chunkyhead> histo, same error
[16:31] <histo> D_D: which howto are you following?
[16:31] <histo> chunkyhead: what type of install do you have?
[16:31] <chunkyhead> what type of install as in?
[16:32] <pypo> the terminal got stuck in the middle of an upgrade for the last one hour. anyone can help?
[16:32] <chunkyhead> histo, what type of install as in?
[16:32] <histo> chunkyhead: ubuntu 12.04 desktop or server or cli ???
[16:32] <chunkyhead> histo, desktop
[16:32] <chunkyhead> histo, btw how to cehck what version do i have?
[16:33] <histo> chunkyhead: are you trying to view an image inside of the desktop environment in a terminal window?
[16:33] <chunkyhead> histo, yeah
[16:33] <chunkyhead> histo, image source-> /home/pictures
[16:33] <histo> chunkyhead: fbi will work if you switch to tty 1-6 by hitting ctrl+alt+F1  through F6  you can hit ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to desktop
[16:33] <D_D> histo it was a german howTo
[16:34] <chunkyhead> histo, so would it work on xterm as well then?
[16:34] <histo> chunkyhead: why would you want to view an image in gnome-terminal inside the desktop why not juse view them witht he image viewer since you are in Xz
[16:34] <histo> s/Xz/X
[16:34] <histo> chunkyhead: no it's made to work on Frame Buffer it's not an Xorg image viewer.  w3m-img  would work in X
[16:35] <chunkyhead> histo, i want to get used to the cli more, and switching to tty1 gives me the same error, i mean after running the command
[16:36] <chunkyhead> histo, oh wait, permission issues, sudo-ed it and got it right thanks :)
[16:36] <chunkyhead> and is there a browser package for the cli?
[16:37] <DJones> chunkyhead: Web browser?
[16:37] <histo> chunkyhead: w3m
[16:37] <histo> D_D: are you setting up virtual domains and virtual users?
[16:37] <chunkyhead> DJones, yeah
[16:37] <chunkyhead> histo, w3m is just ubuntu or for all linux distros?
[16:37] <histo> chunkyhead: all linux distros
[16:38] <D_D> sorry what did you mean with virtual domains and users?
[16:38] <histo> chunkyhead: it's default app in ubuntu though
[16:38] <veselien> hi guys
[16:38] <pypo> this has never happened. I'm not even getting an anys
[16:38] <pypo> answer
[16:38] <alesan> hallo
[16:38] <histo> D_D: like your mail server is answering for domain1.com domain2.com etc...
[16:38] <chunkyhead> links lynx elinks w3m which one would you suggest? histo
[16:38] <alesan> does Ubuntu uses libjpeg turbo or the normal one?
[16:38] <histo> chunkyhead: I use w3m because I like vim keybindings
[16:39] <D_D> only for 1 domain...
[16:39] <chunkyhead> histo, let me give it a try
[16:39] <histo> chunkyhead: you can install w3m-img   to get image support in w3m ..
[16:39] <chunkyhead> anyone knows how to get screen shots when in tty's
[16:39] <histo> chunkyhead: links2 has graphics support also
[16:39] <histo> chunkyhead: scrot
[16:40] <histo> chunkyhead: in terminals. In tty you could just redirect the output to a file and paste the file
[16:42] <histo> chunkyhead: let me clarify scrot can be used in the desktop launched froma  terminal.
[16:43] <histo> chunkyhead: somecommand 1> foo.txt   would take the stdout of somecommand and redirect it to foo.txt
[16:44] <confrey> hi everybody
[16:44] <histo> D_D: then why are you using virtual_mailbox_maps
[16:44] <confrey> I need some help about a module, I don't know if it can be present or not
[16:44] <histo> D_D: err virtual_mailbox_domains
[16:44] <confrey> the module is uplcom
[16:45] <confrey> and/or ucom
[16:45] <D_D> histo how did you know that i´m using virtual_mailbox_maps...?
[16:45] <histo> D_D: because of your error
[16:45] <confrey> how may I test if that module is avalaible, or if it must be compiled
[16:45] <histo> D_D: not _maps but _domains
[16:45] <Guest48475> hey, how can i move all of a certain type of file (jpg) from subdirectories to to my Pictures?
[16:46] <histo> confrey: modprobe -l uplcom
[16:46] <histo> confrey: will show if it's present
[16:46] <confrey> histo, : it's not
[16:46] <D_D> histo where can i change this settings?
[16:46] <confrey> I need it, to program a RF Transmitter
[16:47] <histo> Guest48475: find /path/to/directory -iname "*.jpg" -exec mv -t /path/you/want/them/to/go {} \;
[16:47] <confrey> I have a cable Prolific, connecting a USB port to a (?) PS-2 ? port on the transmitter
[16:47] <Guest48475> thanks histro
[16:48] <confrey> the purpose is to dialog with the transmitter via USB as a serial port
[16:48] <histo> D_D: in your /etc/postfix/main.cf    might I suggest you purging the packages you've currently installed and just installing mail-stack-delivery package.  Then you'd be done
[16:48] <yx> Hello, when opening the update manager, i get the following error message: W:Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-updates/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 141.30.13.20 80]
[16:49] <loganrun> is there any sort of plugin or something that would add an equilizer to the sound so I can lower the base level of the output sound
[16:49] <yx> did someone delete the Sources dir on the ubuntu mirrors?
[16:49] <confrey> a doc I have suggest : "by adding the following
[16:49] <confrey> line into the loader.conf file2 uplcom_load="YES" "
[16:49] <histo> Guest48475: if there are a ton of files replace \; with +
[16:49] <histo> Guest48475: or you can use xargs
[16:50] <histo> yx: try a different mirror
[16:50] <hxm> hello, i have a server with various hostnames, how can i say which hostname i want to use for a certain connection?
[16:50] <hxm> server1.domain.so server2.domain.so
[16:50] <histo> !hostname | hxm
[16:50] <hxm> is that possible?
[16:51] <histo> hxm: what do you mean one server answering multiple web requests?
[16:51] <loganrun> is there an equilizer plugin for pulseaudio or something like that
[16:51] <histo> !patience | loganrun
[16:52] <loganrun> histo: why would no one answer
[16:52] <hxm> histo: in example, if i connect to freenode and make a whois to myself i see: nick (ident@server1.domain.so) but what about if i want to use server2.domain.so instead?
[16:52] <histo> loganrun: read the message from ubottu
[16:52] <llutz> hxm: needs to set reverse-dns
[16:52] <chunkyhead>  how to write in a text box? histo
[16:52] <D_D> histo .. Couldn't find package mail-stack-delivery
[16:53] <hxm> ip failover wont work?
[16:53] <histo> hxm: those are jut dns records pointed at the same server right?
[16:53] <hxm> yes it is
[16:53] <histo> chunkyhead: huh?
[16:53] <histo> !info mail-stack-delivery | D_D
[16:54] <histo> hxm: yes reverse dns i guess would be the way to go
[16:55] <D_D> histo sorry but what did you mean with your post?
[16:56] <mauricio_> Hi
[16:57] <exposition> can someone explain XMPP to me?
[16:57] <mauricio_> quit
[16:58] <auronandace> !xmpp | exposition
[16:59] <yx> exposition: just look at the wikipedia page of XMPP
[16:59] <exposition> its a bit technical
[16:59] <exposition> i was just wondering what it was used for...
[16:59] <defenestrator> exposition, it is an IM protocol among other things
[17:00] <exposition> does it function like irc
[17:00] <exposition> oh ok...
[17:00] <defenestrator> exposition, IRC is from the 80s
[17:00] <exposition> does it have a similar structure to irc? with the networks and channels?
[17:00] <defenestrator> XMPP is more recent
[17:01] <exposition> thanks, if i could refine my question a little bit more...
[17:01] <defenestrator> exposition, nope, and this is really off topic man
[17:01] <exposition> sorry.
[17:01] <exposition> i'll go to the offtopic channel.
[17:01] <exposition> thank you for your time.
[17:02] <defenestrator> exposition, no worries
[17:03] <angs> is it possible to see installed packages with the size that they occupy?
[17:05] <Elshar> If you do aptitute show <package> it'll tell you
[17:05] <Elshar> Maybe someone with more experience can tell you how to get a listing of all packages
[17:07] <usr_anna> dpkg -l
[17:08] <chunkyhead> histo,  like on google how there's a textfield, how to edit it in order to search?
[17:08] <chunkyhead> using w3m
[17:08] <Pici> chunkyhead: navigate over to it with tab then press enter to make it active
[17:08] <dmonjo> i want to install gstreamer1.x from apt-get but apt-get only finds the old version 0.1
[17:08] <dmonjo> how can i resolve this issue?
[17:09] <s9iper1> how can i upgrade from ubuntu 11.10 to ubuntu 13.04 ?
[17:09] <dmonjo> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[17:09] <dmonjo> do i need to add ppa?
[17:10] <TK-999> s9iper: 13.04 is still in development
[17:10] <usr_anna> can you download individual new package and run apt-get -i packagename??
[17:10] <TK-999> The current non-LTS stable is 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal). sudo do-release-upgrade is the command.
[17:10] <Pici> s9iper1: you'd need to upgrade to each of the intermediary releases in turn.
[17:10] <s9iper1> tk-999: but i still want to upgrade it
[17:10] <TK-999> s9iperl: Download its ISO and do a raw install, that's the way to get 13.04
[17:11] <s9iper1> pici: give me a command to get the 13.04
[17:11] <Pici> s9iper1: You would need to upgrade to 12.04 then 12.10 then 13.04
[17:11] <tgm4883> s9iper1, you can only upgrade to the development version from the lastest stable version. So you need to be on 12.10
[17:11] <s9iper1> there is no ither way ??? by comand or any other way it is leading me to 12.04.2 but is it not taking me to 13.04
[17:11] <Pici> s9iper1: there is no other way
[17:12] <s9iper1> ok thanks
[17:12] <TK-999> s9iperl: 13.04 is still in development. Download the iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ and fresh install
[17:12] <tgm4883> s9iper1, you need to upgrade to 12.10 first
[17:12] <tgm4883> or do a clean install of 13.04
[17:13] <solancer> hey guys
[17:13] <solancer> I've jus started the ubuntu installation on my 4gb usb thumb drive
[17:14] <solancer> I've used 12.10, ext2 filesystem
[17:14] <solancer> I now want to use ram for temp folder how can I set that ?
[17:14] <BluesKaj> solancer, best to use ext4 when you install to disk
[17:14] <solancer> BlueEagle, but its not a disk its a thumb drive
[17:15] <solancer> BlueEagle, AKAIK journalizing fs is bad for flash drives
[17:15] <BluesKaj> solancer, yes but when you ionstall from the t6humb drive , the media you install ubuntu on should be ext4
[17:16] <BluesKaj> solancer, my nick is BluesKaj
[17:17]  * BluesKaj dons his glasses
[17:17] <solancer> BluesKaj, but I'm installing on thumb drive
[17:17] <BluesKaj> ok , i won't ask why
[17:18] <solancer> BluesKaj, I basically want to use ubuntu from my usb drive on my college comp
[17:20] <BluesKaj> solancer, oj then make sure your college computer disk is formatted to ext4 when yoiu install from the the thumbdrive
[17:20] <BluesKaj> bbl
[17:20] <k1l> BluesKaj: i think he wants to use a persistent live system
[17:20] <solancer> BluesKaj, no no no I don't wana install it on HDD
[17:21] <BluesKaj> yeah well, the hardware has to be taken into account
[17:21] <solancer> BluesKaj,  I want to make a persistent usb drive
[17:21] <solancer> BluesKaj, like live boot with storage
[17:21] <BluesKaj> thar would be nice , but it's not practical IMO
[17:22] <BluesKaj> anyway , stuff to doo ..BBL
[17:22] <k1l> solancer: so why not use the persistens live installation?
[17:23] <solancer> how can i do that ?
[17:24] <pypo> my pc has an intel core 2,26 ghz 64bit processor.  must I download ubuntu 12.04.2.'s 64bit version or the 32bit one? (I read that the first one is only for AMDs).
[17:24] <DavidScherer> I'm working on installing Ubuntu 12 PP Server on a Lenovo Thinkserver. I got to the "ATA Raid Detected" screen and chose "Yes" to activate. Then it states "Starting partition manager".
[17:24] <k1l> pypo: 64bit
[17:24] <k1l> pypo: the patent is from amd but its used by intel, too
[17:24] <jrib> pypo: amd64 is just the name of the architecture, your intel processor will run it fine
[17:25] <pypo> oh ok, thank you very much k1l!
[17:25] <k1l> solancer: choose persistent install and select the amount of storage in the live usb creator
[17:25] <DavidScherer> Whe I get to the Partition manager I have 4 line-items "Configure iSCSI Volumes" (no idea what this is) "__BLANK LINE__" "Undo changes to partitions" and lastly "Finish partitionin and write changes to disk"
[17:25] <DavidScherer> What should I do?
[17:26] <DavidScherer> "Finish Partitioning" gives me an "No root filesystem defined" error
[17:26] <DavidScherer> "
[17:26] <DavidScherer> "Undo chagnes..>" seems to just hang.
[17:26] <DavidScherer> Recomendations?
[17:26] <safeith1> I deleted my gnugp key how i can recover it ?
[17:28] <D_D> hi mauricio
[17:29] <pypo> anyone knows about metadata anonymisation kit?
[17:31] <k1lled> hello guys, i try to install on my laptop ubuntu 12.04 x64. My laptop is 64 processor. I download from official site installer. A make USB flash boot, with: "Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.2.5". I make few linux distro with that, and always i can boot, but ubuntu 12.04 i cant.
[17:31] <k1lled> my english is bad, sry about that
[17:32] <k1lled> mmm i go in "boot menu" and i click enter to load live cd
[17:32] <k1lled> and install, but nothing - cant start, i try and click install - again nothing
[17:32] <k1lled> try all options, only beeps, from speakers, and i cant start installation
[17:33] <k1lled> and again sorry my english is really really bad
[17:34] <DavidScherer> I chose the "Undo Changes" option and I'm still at the blank purple screen with the white bar at the bottom
[17:35] <metalf8801> k1lled: did you check the MD5sum for the ubuntu 12.04 iso after you downloaded it?
[17:39] <metalf8801> k1lled: if you didn't do you know how to check a MD5SUM?
[17:39] <ubulove> Hi, whatever *buntu am trying to install on my laptop from USB/CD it hangs on it's menu when I press ANY key from my keyboard.
[17:41] <k1l> !nomodeset | ubulove
[17:42] <ubulove> kll, I didn't install *buntu yet. I want to.
[17:42] <Guest16289> what is your password
[17:42] <Prufrock> Hi all.
[17:43] <metalf8801> ubulove: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[17:43] <Guest46716> Howdy Prufrock
[17:43] <Guest16289> hi
[17:43] <ubulove> metalf8801: ATI Radeon 1200X
[17:43] <k1l> ubulove: check the md5sum if the iso is ok. then choose the kernelparameter at the boot screen
[17:43] <Prufrock> For some reason after a recent update, Ubuntu started telling me there's a system error and asking me if I want to send an error report.. :/
[17:43] <Prufrock> What could be the reason for this?
[17:44] <chaos_> what does the error report elude to
[17:44] <ubulove> kll, I checked the md5sum and it's the same. I can't choose anything on the boot screen because whatever key I press it freezes.
[17:44] <k1l> Prufrock: click on "more details" to see what application is causing this
[17:44] <chaos_> it could be a glitch
[17:44] <hikenboot> hi I am trying to get tightvnc to run on boot I have followed directions which had me create /etc/init.d/vncserver file and I have chmod +x on the file vnc runs fine and I can connect but only after I have manually typed in vncserver at console
[17:45] <chaos_> updates are always fun :)
[17:46] <k1lled> metalf8801 i was not here, mmm i dont know how to check this
[17:46] <hikenboot> I have also done an updaterc.local and it seems to update
[17:46] <chaos_> you have to see what run level your in, probably 2 then add your script to the main rc2 file with a S at the begging
[17:46] <metalf8801> k1lled: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[17:46] <chaos_> cat the /etc/rc2 file and see what it looks like
[17:47] <Prufrock> k1l, chaos, Okay in the details box, there's this entry: "/usr/share/apport/apport-gpu-error-intel.py"..
[17:47] <pypo> help please! every usb stick I insert in 12.10. gets inoperable shortly after, with the error: unable to mount 16GB Volume and then this text: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5631818/
[17:47] <chaos_> also in your /etc/init.d/vncserver script, make sure your using absolute paths
[17:48] <pypo> it cant be that both sticks are defective. actually one is new and the other was working in the other pc
[17:48] <chaos_> gpu has to do with graphics cards, i would start there
[17:48] <metalf8801> ubulove: which *buntu have you tried to boot?
[17:48] <Prufrock> chaos_, So what should I do next?
[17:49] <chaos_> its not the sticks, its the os. i have problems like that sometimes too
[17:49] <hikenboot> chaos_, thanks for responding. Howerver under /etc/rc2.d/there is a S20vncserver file already there put there presumably when I did an updaterc.local or when i installed tightvnc
[17:49] <hikenboot> it does not start it though
[17:49] <ubulove> metalf8801: ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10, xubuntu 12.04 and 12.10, and now lubuntu 12.10.
[17:49] <chaos_> do you have a graphics card or embedded graphics?
[17:50] <Prufrock> chaos, I think I do have a graphics card, yes.
[17:50] <ubulove> metalf8801: It's a weird problem for me.
[17:50] <k1lled> metalf8801 i do that, and md5 is the same
[17:50] <k1lled> ..
[17:50] <hikenboot> Its on a VMware esx server as a guest
[17:50] <Prufrock> chaos, It's "Intel® Sandybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2 "
[17:51] <metalf8801> k1lled: then that's not the problem
[17:51] <chaos_> like check that script and make sure it can run properly and start it up from other directories. i always put in a cron job to pop off in a few mins to test system scripts
[17:51] <k1lled> metalf8801 and how i can fix that, with 12.10 i dont have problem to install
[17:51] <k1lled> kubuntu 12.04 too
[17:51] <k1lled> archlinux too
[17:51] <chaos_> i would try to update the graphics card with drivers
[17:51] <metalf8801> k1lled: when you've used other distos were you using 64bit version?
[17:52] <k1lled> metalf8801 i cant undarstand a quest..
[17:54] <pypo> 12.10. is really different, what happened to everything? It also doesnt recognize the old keyrings on 12.04.
[17:54] <chaos_> ubuntu is f*ing up alot lol
[17:54] <marcoss> Holas amigos
[17:54] <ZinovaS> hi, downloading files from phone via bluetooth became very slow (4kB/s) after fresh install. any way to debug bluetooth problem?
[17:54] <chaos_> hola amiga
[17:54] <kalenjohnson> marcoss, Hellos?
[17:54] <kalenjohnson> :)
[17:54] <Prufrock> chaos_, ... :/
[17:54] <chaos_> :(
[17:55] <metalf8801> k1lled: Kubuntu 12.04 works but not Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:55] <alsk> I am using Ubuntu 12.04. I can send files via bluetooth but unable to receive any . Can any one suggest a solution ?
[17:55] <Prufrock> chaos_, Is there away I can reverse my recent update?
[17:55] <marcoss> You have to throw it
[17:56] <metalf8801> alsk: do you know how to check your bluetooth settings?
[17:56] <k1lled> metalf8801 yes, i can start livecd, and install kubuntu 12.04
[17:56] <k1lled> but when i try this with ubuntu 12.04 - i stack on boot menu
[17:57] <chaos_> major update are not gonne be reversible as far as i know. but ubuntu does have that program for propriotory drivers, you could look for that and try another driver or just not use those and use ubuntu's ... ??
[17:57] <alsk> metalf8801 : yeah
[17:57] <chaos_> backtrack has some bluetooth analysis tools  muahahaha
[17:57] <metalf8801> k1lled: where you using Kubuntu 12.04 64 bit or 32 bit? a 64 bit CPU will work with the 32 bit version
[17:58] <alsk> metalf8801 : Its under the bluetooth icon in the tray
[17:58] <metalf8801> alsk: is File Receiving enabled?
[17:58] <chaos_> im on fedora in a ubuntu channel lmao
[17:59] <k1lled> metalf8801 kubuntu 64 bit i install. I think is better for 64 bit procc, 64bit version OS
[17:59] <alsk> metalf8801 : there is no such option in 12.04
[17:59] <chaos_> i have a issue too!! just not so important i suppose
[17:59] <marcoss> I like Christina agilera
[17:59] <chaos_> whoa
[17:59] <chaos_> i used to love her
[18:00] <chaos_> i got a service/program i installed and the kernel keeps killing it for some reason.. any ideas?? this is in an virtual machine as a guest...
[18:01] <JSysTeM> hello all
[18:01] <chaos_> tis java -jar app
[18:01] <chaos_> hello u
[18:01] <jrib> chaos_: running out of memory?
[18:01] <JSysTeM> guys i have 6.06 LTS and i want to upgrade to 8.04 but i cant is there a special old repo to do that ? thanks
[18:02] <chaos_> i think but it uses to run in 380mb ram on a old computer, now in this virtual machine with 400mb dies
[18:02] <TK-999> JSysTeM: You might want to switch to another distro, using unsupported versions is risky.
[18:02] <k1lled> metalf8801 do you have a more ideas how i can install 12.04 ? what is the problem..
[18:02] <chaos_> omg i never even knew about linux in ubuntu6 days
[18:02] <k1lled> or i will try x32
[18:03] <metalf8801> k1lled: can you walk me through what happens when you try to boot from a flash driving running Ubuntu 12.04?
[18:03] <TK-999> There are software out in the wild that exploit unpatched applications and weak passwords, so beware
[18:03] <chaos_> oh yes friend
[18:03] <chaos_> BEWARE
[18:03] <alsk> metalf8801 : any idea ?
[18:03] <chaos_> i will do it
[18:03] <marcoss> Get a 64 s more fast
[18:03] <chaos_> Xploit u
[18:03] <metalf8801> alsk: yeah one sec
[18:04] <k1lled> metalf8801 i start boot menu, and choose - boot from USB Flash. After this show on the screen menu with
[18:04] <chaos_> jrib: nice name
[18:04] <k1lled> "live CD", install
[18:04] <hikenboot> gee wiz what ever happened to apt-get install and stuff just working anyways this is rediculous just to get a virtual desktop
[18:04] <k1lled> and all options, after this
[18:04] <TK-999> Joking aside, just be reasonable: up-to-date system, iptables set up, perhaps apparmor configured and on a desktop, FF+NoScript
[18:04] <Prufrock> chaos, is there a way I can just stop these annoying error notifications from popping up every single minute? :/
[18:04] <k1lled> i click enter - nothing i stack here
[18:04] <JSysTeM> TK-999: the problem is that i dont have cdwriter and my box doesnt support usb boot is there other way to install fresh version without cd or usb
[18:05] <k1lled> no one option work, just i have Beep from my motherboard
[18:05] <k1lled> and i click and click enter and nothing, and i reset the laptop
[18:05] <marcoss> I like windows
[18:05] <bazhang> !ot | marcoss
[18:05] <chaos_> keep clicking lol
[18:05] <bazhang> chaos_, stop that
[18:05] <chaos_> k
[18:05] <TK-999> JSysTeM: Not even 8.04 is fresh
[18:06] <bazhang> !behelpful | chaos_
[18:06] <JSysTeM> dont mind 12
[18:06] <Hwkiller> Anyone on 13.04 have issues with multiple workspaces? They literally don't appear, despite being configured for 4 work spaces in dconf
[18:06] <TK-999> JSysTeM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[18:06] <Hwkiller> when I show all workspaces, there is only one, even though the config says 2x2
[18:06] <bazhang> Hwkiller, #ubuntu+1 for 13.04
[18:06] <metalf8801> k1lled: I would install Kubuntu 12.04 and then if you want you can install the Unity desktop after
[18:06] <JSysTeM> but as i read forums i need to do upgrade in line so i get from 6.06 to 8.04 to 12
[18:06] <Hwkiller> sigh
[18:06] <Prufrock> chaos, keep clicking? You mean there's no way to stop them from showing up? :)
[18:06] <marcoss> Sorry i www
[18:07] <chaos_> sorry
[18:07] <Hwkiller> thanks bazhang
[18:07] <chaos_> wuz being trollish
[18:07] <alsk> metalf8801 : :)
[18:08] <chaos_> im just happy to see so many people using linux these days
[18:08] <JSysTeM> cool this would work does it support 3com eth
[18:08] <Prufrock> chaos_, Okay, one more thing, actually the list also includes so many more stuff, like xorg and compiz etc etc..
[18:08] <k1lled> metalf8801 i try this, but something bug in my OS... and when i install unity and remove kde, my OS total crash, may be i make something wrong..
[18:08] <marcoss> Cause theres not another free
[18:08] <JSysTeM> TK-999: the 12.04 is the LTS ?
[18:09] <alsk> chaos_ : I think its bcz they love to solve issues :)
[18:09] <metalf8801> k1lled: Then your computer can't run the version of Unity that ships with Ubuntu 12.04
[18:09] <chaos_> Prufrock, sorry it was joke, dont keep clicking..
[18:09] <k1lled> .... lool
[18:09] <TK-999> Yes
[18:09] <JSysTeM> seems will install from grub :d
[18:10] <k1lled> and what, i cant work with 12.04 ubuntu with unity
[18:10] <hikenboot> well i cant get it to work on startup but tightvnc sure is much faster than virtualcenter console!
[18:10] <k1lled> on my laptop ?
[18:10] <Prufrock> chaos, lol Okay. :P So is there a way to stop these notifications?
[18:11] <metalf8801> alsk: do you have blueman installed?
[18:11] <chaos_> there attached to the new notification system. you could turn off all notifications. i dont know the exact steps
[18:11] <chaos_> dude wish i was there to help you, but i got to go before i get kicked out of here like usual...
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> JSysTeM, I would backup your setup if you are going to try and upgrade from where you are at if it can even be done.  Upgrades are something I quit doing I have a fresh install setup that works much faster and I have a clean install.
[18:12] <Prufrock> chaos, Okay.. well.. Thanks anyways. :)
[18:12] <Ankhwatcher> Hey, how do I tell which kernel version I am using?
[18:12] <metalf8801> k1lled: that's what it sounds like there might be away to figure it out but I don't really like Unity so I haven't spent much time trying to get it to work... Sorry but I can't help you
[18:12] <JSysTeM> wilee-nilee: i will do netboot install fresh copy :)
[18:13] <alsk> metalf8801 : installed it right now !
[18:13] <JSysTeM> reading this if i'm mistaken please inform me, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> JSysTeM, That is your best move, in this circumstance. ;)
[18:13] <k1lled> metalf8801 can i download 12.04 without graphic, and after this just isntall unity ?
[18:14] <JSysTeM> in my case i uses kernel instead linux in grub
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> k1lled, YOu can do a net install
[18:15] <metalf8801> k1lled: maybe but since you already tried to install Unity on Kubuntu 12.04 I don't think its going to work you could try Ubuntu 12.04 32bit and see if the problem is with the 64bit version of your graphics card's driver
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> k1lled, I don't know if this is the answer for you I have not followed your situation, but here is the mini cd for net installs.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:16] <alsk> metalf8801: there is no option to enable recieve files..
[18:16] <JSysTeM> ok guys thanks see ya after the test and learning :)
[18:16] <k1lled> metalf8801 i will try 32bit 12.04
[18:16] <k1lled> if i have again that problem..
[18:16] <k1lled> may be kubuntu
[18:16] <histo> KiLaHuRtZ: yes you can install ubuntu-desktop if you want
[18:16] <metalf8801> alsk: I'm trying to figure out the best way to tell you how to get to that setting
[18:16] <metalf8801> k1lled: good luck
[18:16] <histo> k1lled: or kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop the choice is yours
[18:17] <histo> k1lled: if you have a 64bit cpu use 64bit os
[18:17] <histo> metalf8801: what setting?
[18:17] <histo> metalf8801: gnome-control-center  in a terminal will open the system settings page.
[18:18] <Ankhwatcher> uname -a
[18:18] <k1lled> histo the problem is , ubuntu 12.04 cant boot... kubuntu 12.04 work normally
[18:18] <k1lled> 64 vers
[18:18] <k1lled> now i will try 32bit ubuntu
[18:18] <histo> k1lled: try nomodeset
[18:18] <histo> !nomodeset | k1lled
[18:19] <histo> k1lled: although kubuntu vs. ubuntu are identical other than the Desktop Environment. The systems should still boot.
[18:19] <alsk> metalf8801: I can browse the device. But unable to receive any files
[18:19] <Guest6353> heyy people
[18:19] <metalf8801> alsk: when you click on the bluetooth icon do you see an option that says "Local Services"?
[18:20] <Guest6353> who's up for a little chat?
[18:20] <histo> !ask | Guest6353
[18:20] <Guest6353> anyone?
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> k1lled, You can install kubuntu then the ubuntu desktop and remove kubuntu as well, there is a website with the package lists to run the replacement, may be as simple as the nomodeset option when you start to cd though.
[18:20] <bakingbread> hi all... ok this just drives me crazy... 12.10, audio is not synced with video in vlc. I tried turning off timescheduling in pulseaudio config and changing driver to alsa in vlc setting. but it still keeps going unsynced after at some point later. anyone have any ideas?
[18:21] <k1lled> wilee-nilee is too hard... i am newbie at linux..
[18:21] <alsk> metalf8801 : yeah
[18:21] <metalf8801> alsk: good click on it
[18:22] <Minelli> hi all
 : got that option :)
[18:22] <histo> wilee-nilee: that's silly why wouldn't he just use the alternate iso
[18:22] <metalf8801> alsk: Had it been enabled already or did you have to enable it just now?
[18:22] <hikenboot> is there a log file that has the rc.d information in it?
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> k1lled, It seems hard whatever part you're addressing, however with a little help you will get done and never look back
[18:23] <histo> k1lled: if you want to install ubuntu and are having problems with the desktop version. Use the alternate iso or the mini iso
[18:23] <jsystem> Guys I'm getting kernel panic
[18:23] <histo> k1lled: you can find them at cdimage.ubuntu.com
 : enabled it right now.. and its working now.. thank you :)
[18:23] <metalf8801> alsk: that's great!
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> histo, There is no alternative now.
[18:23] <metalf8801> alsk: you're welcome
[18:23] <jsystem> Do I have to download kernel that support my init
[18:24] <rosipov> installed ubuntu 12.10 x64 on acer aspire laptop, switched BIOS to UEFI, now trying to make UEFI see ubuntu using live usb (all I have). Any tip how do I do that?
[18:24] <kuwait> hi , how can i determine my vga card is support 3d , i mean i can play 3d movies ?
[18:24] <hikenboot> am i correct in saying its /var/log/syslog?
[18:25] <jsystem> What's is the kernel file name
[18:25] <k1lled> histo where i can download ubuntu without graphic
[18:25] <k1lled> after this install unity ?
[18:25] <k1lled> 12.04 64 bit vers
[18:25] <genii-around> jsystem: vmlinuz
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> rosipov, Here is a link that might be helpful, on the Ubuntu Forums are some great helpers in this area as well. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
 : One more doubt..
[18:26] <jsystem> I'm getting panic error
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> k1lled, The only download without graphics is the net install.
[18:26] <_jason_> exit
[18:26] <_jason_> haha. that didnt work!
[18:26] <rosipov> wilee-nilee: thanks
[18:27] <k1lled> wilee-nilee net install ?
[18:27] <jsystem> Is it the united.ha prob
[18:27] <Newbee> hai i just installed php on bt but the php is not working...only html pages are working
[18:27] <Newbee>  any help??
[18:27] <bakingbread> heh, TIL that Ubuntu keeps /etc/devian_version file
[18:27] <histo> k1lled: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[18:27] <Minelli> .
[18:27] <jsystem> Initrd.gz
[18:27] <histo> k1lled: download the alternate iso
[18:27] <theadmin> bakingbread: Well, Ubuntu is debian-based.
[18:28] <metalf8801> alsk: did something go wrong?
[18:28] <histo> k1lled: actually just use the mini iso I believe they got rid of the alternate iso
[18:28] <theadmin> ..."wheezy/sid"? I don't even, how does that make sense
[18:29] <k1lled> histo http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/12.04.2/release/ ??
[18:29] <bakingbread> theadmin: I know that very well. Just was suprised I was expected to see something like ubuntu_version there. and bot debian_version saying wheezy/sid (unstable)
 : nope.. Thats working..But while browsing devices I can only see the folders, but not the files inside the sdcard
[18:29] <histo> k1lled: use this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:30] <histo> k1lled: after the installer is almost done you can pick ubuntu-desktop. This is a netinstall cd it will download all the packages online while it's installing
[18:30] <troulouliou_dev> hi i 2 laptop 1 toshiba netbook nb550d and 1  dell M6700 with a core I7 3920; for unknow reason to me ubuntu on the dell is extremly slow to load
[18:31] <troulouliou_dev> compared to the netbook
[18:31] <histo> Is there any difference now on the server cd vs the regular cd other than a cli install?
[18:31] <theadmin> bakingbread: There's /etc/os-release which shows the Ubuntu version details.
[18:31] <histo> Aren't the kernels the same now?
[18:31] <k1lled> well that start install, and i just "pick" what i want to install, packs
[18:31] <metalf8801> alsk: I have no experience with that sorry but if you didn't end up needing to use Blueman you might want to uninstall it in case it cause problems with the other software you are using to configure your bluetooth settings
[18:31] <theadmin> bakingbread: You can also use lsb_release to provide that information in a sane, readable manner.
[18:31] <k1lled> and that start download from the internet
[18:31] <k1lled> this packs?
 : Okay.. Let me try out something..thanks again .. Good night
[18:32] <histo> k1lled: yes at the end it will run tasksel you can pick ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop etc... which ever you want. Even if you forget youc an do it after restart... logging in by sudo tasksel
[18:32] <p1l0t> How do you restart samba again?
[18:33] <metalf8801> alsk: good luck
[18:33] <histo> p1l0t: sudo service samba restart
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> k1lled, Yeah I posted the HTTP earlier for you, this is a bit difficult in the sense that you have to choose what you want installed as far as desktops, the cd in tiny, but it is understandable.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:33] <p1l0t> histo: unrecognized service
[18:33] <p1l0t> smbclient works though
[18:33] <k1lled> yeah i open this site
[18:33] <histo> p1l0t: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart  or smbd restart
[18:33] <k1lled> now download
[18:34] <histo> p1l0t: cant' remember the silly name ubuntu uses
[18:34] <k1lled> amd64 12.04 version
[18:34] <histo> k1lled: yeap
[18:34] <theadmin> histo: "service" maps to init.d, same thing.
[18:34] <compdoc> sudo service smbd restart
[18:34] <p1l0t> histo: Those say no such service
[18:34] <OerHeks> histo,  sudo service sambad restart
[18:34] <histo> theadmin: service only handles upstart jobs
[18:34] <jsystem> Wilde my kernel is panic mode upon doing custom net installation from grub
[18:34] <OerHeks> err smbd indeed, compdoc
[18:34] <histo> p1l0t: do you have samba server installed?
[18:34] <bjackman> hey guys, does anyone know where to report kernel oopses? I got one when unmounting something http://paste.ubuntu.com/5631936/
[18:34] <theadmin> histo: man service, "run a System V init script".
[18:35] <theadmin> histo: It also deals with Upstart. But main tools for upstart are "start", "stop", "restart" and "status" scrips.
[18:35] <p1l0t> I think this machine is just a client
[18:35] <theadmin> scripts, even.
[18:35] <compdoc>  sudo service smbd restart, or sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[18:35] <theadmin> Well, those and initctl
[18:36] <compdoc> I need to learn upstart
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> jsystem, Check the MD5Sum of the ISO, I would google your computer set up as well to see if others have had problems.  Is it in panic with multiple trys?
[18:37] <tekonivel> hi, i reported a bug, patched it, and submitted a merge request. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/1153632 is there something more i should do, or do something differently?
[18:37] <jsystem> Wait booting the box
[18:37] <k1lled> what packages is must install from that mini.iso, to work normally after install ?
[18:37] <p1l0t> It's wierd smbclient works from the CLi for every computer including the samba server and from the GUI I can see other computers and connect to all of them except the samba server it says Failed to retrieve share list from server
[18:38] <tekonivel> f.ex. should i update the status to "fix committed"?
[18:38] <p1l0t> I changed my /etc/hosts file but now I can't figure out for the life of me how to restart samba
[18:38] <theadmin> p1l0t: As you were told, sudo restart smbd
[18:38] <p1l0t> theadmin: Unknown job: smbd
[18:39] <theadmin> p1l0t: Eh... Wait, are you willing to restart a samba *server* or some client daemon?
[18:39] <OerHeks> tekonivel, join #ubuntu+1 for Raring issues
[18:39] <Nexus_Russia> hi all
[18:39] <JCode> wilee-nilee:  do i download the linux file along with initrd.gz
[18:39] <tekonivel> OerHeks: cheers, will do!
[18:39] <p1l0t> theadmin: This computer doesn't have samba server installed
[18:39] <JCode> and use it instead of vmlinuz
[18:40] <theadmin> p1l0t: Oh, eh, then there's probably nothing to restart...
[18:40] <theadmin> p1l0t: I dunno, look for "samba" or "smb" things in /etc/init/, e
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> k1lled, the cd's are tiny 12.04 is 27MB, you install everything from the net, however you have a interface to choose the desktop, and server choices, you just need the desktop, it is self explanatory in the process and you can ask questions here while doing it.
[18:41] <jhutchins_wk> p1l0t: if it doesn't have the server installed then there is no service to run, just the client.
[18:41] <jsystem> My bad now workings thanks
[18:42] <p1l0t> jhutchins_wk: oh ok so then I guess my next question is why does smbclient connect to the server OK but if I go through the GUI (which is working fine for other computers on the network) I get "Failed to retrieve share list from server" when I try to connect to the server's shares
[18:43] <jsystem> Needed to download the linux file
[18:46] <Newbee> hai i am installing apache 2.4.4 on linux and got the following error any help?? "checking for APR... configure: WARNING: APR version 1.4.0 or later is required, found 1.3.8"
[18:46] <Scunizi> Can someone remind me what switch to use to get a directory only listing using "ls"
[18:46] <p1l0t> OK how about this question. What program/protocol does Unity use to "browse the contents of the network"
[18:47] <llutz> Scunizi: ls -ld dir
[18:47] <Scunizi> Newbee: install apache from the software center
[18:47] <Scunizi> llutz: thanks
[18:48] <Scunizi> llutz: woops.. that not what I'm looking for.  I'm in root and want to list all the immediate directories in root
[18:48] <llutz>  ls -ld */
[18:49] <Scunizi> llutz: perfect.. thanks.  I"ve got my referenc book but couldn't find it in there
[18:49] <mikkel> im told på wine that i need mono 2.8 or greater, how do i get this?
[18:49] <llutz> Scunizi: not very intuitive the */ but ...
[18:50] <Scunizi> llutz: yea.. if you don't use is often enough it filters through the strainer sive of my mind
[18:51] <mikkel> sorry, wine tells me i need mono 2.8 or greater to run .NET 4.0. Anyone know how i get this?
[18:51] <llutz> Scunizi: maybe easier to remember, but too long to type: find . -type d -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1
[18:53] <llutz> Scunizi: use " */ .*/" if you want hidden dirs too
[18:56] <JCode> wilee-nilee:  im faceing a problem now it says installer doesnt exist
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> JCode, This in the mini?
[18:57] <param_> http://www.hostly.com/hosting-info/build-website-using-apache-1658.html               what to do in this 3rd step ?
[18:58] <JSysTeM> i loaded the kernel and initrd in grub booted and checked that internet is alive and when i press alt f4 i read that some files including installer doesnt exist
[18:58] <p1l0t> So I solved it. I had to change the name resovle order in smb.conf to bcast host. That got rid of the "Failed to retrieve share list from server" in Unity
[18:58]  * dsfiughsof slaps anti-freeze around a bit with a large trout
[18:58] <JSysTeM> whats the differance between generic and PAE ?
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> JSysTeM, This in the mini? I really only have a smidgen of expertise where I have had problems, which is hardly anywhere, this is one of the areas I can't really offer much more.
[18:59] <escott> !pae | JSysTeM
[18:59] <JSysTeM> thanks escott
[19:00] <JSysTeM> yeah thats the mini i took the 2 files they mentioned over the netinstall from grub and booted fine but it says files doesnt exist
[19:01] <JSysTeM> is 10.04 still supported ?
[19:01] <bekks> JSysTeM: Yes.
[19:01] <JSysTeM> cool than i will try to install it from the grub if it works than i can dist-upgrade
[19:03] <JSysTeM> will be back and inform about latest information
[19:07] <anew> if i'm using a script to upload something, is this the full file path or am i missing something?
[19:07] <anew> /home/will/Documents/shared
[19:07] <krabador> hi, i've that http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632034/ , how can i do to set it as IEC958 ?
[19:07] <anew> what i need exists in the shared directory
[19:08] <theadmin> anew: It looks like a proper path to me. Also, you can use ~ to refer to the current user's home directory, or ~username to refer to the home directory of the user "username".
[19:08] <anew> ok so it's not like windows where you need c:/ in front of it
[19:08] <genii-around> anew: If you want the directory contents and not the directory itself perhaps append /*
[19:09] <theadmin> anew: Right, Linux has no drive letters.
[19:09] <anew> k thx theadmin
[19:11] <D_D> did anyone know how to combine postfix
[19:11] <StephenS> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kOil2HSDq0E
[19:11] <D_D> postfix+dovecot+openXchange
[19:14] <param_> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu    when i run sudo cp command
[19:14] <you-tee-f> how can i change the default run level ?
[19:14] <krabador> hi, i've that http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632034/ , how can i do to set it as IEC958 ?
[19:14] <theadmin> you-tee-f: Ubuntu doesn't do runlevels.
[19:14] <theadmin> !upstart | you-tee-f
[19:15] <koyetsu> i was wondering if anyone could point me to information on DNS based NAT. eg. i have eample.com and example1.com pointed at my public ip and i have a server for each behind firewall NAT
[19:15] <you-tee-f> but upstart is taking care of the levels
[19:15] <theadmin> you-tee-f: Right, but they're all the same except 0, 1 and 6.
[19:15] <alimj1> Question: I want apt to use some specific HTTP proxy for some specific repository in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[19:15] <you-tee-f> theadmin: ok
[19:16] <br3ntor> whats the command to do a basic update on my system(xubuntu) apt-get update or something?
[19:16] <theadmin> br3ntor: apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:16] <br3ntor> thx, it was too simple to find on google XD
[19:16] <koyetsu> update only updates the package upgrade installs them
[19:16] <koyetsu> atleast that's the behavior i've seen on 12.04
[19:17] <you-tee-f> theadmin: i've made a script and i actually want to be able to run it on startup, can you lead me a bit (where to look first except the official doc, i mean directly in linux) to achieve that ?.
[19:17] <theadmin> koyetsu: It's the same, Debian never changes.
[19:18] <theadmin> you-tee-f: Create /etc/init/yourscript.conf, in it you should have two lines: "start on startup" and "exec /path/to/script"
[19:18] <you-tee-f> ah! good to hear that
[19:18] <you-tee-f> thanks dude
[19:20] <koyetsu> so mr admin, any tips on how to go about doing name based NAT?
[19:21] <koyetsu> should be possible but either i'm looking for the wrong term or looking in the wrong place
[19:21] <theadmin> koyetsu: I'm not really an admin, and I'm definetly not a "mr".
[19:21] <koyetsu> :)
[19:22] <theadmin> koyetsu: The general idea is people help when they know how, when they don't they're silent. Imagine what it would be like if everyone said "I don't know" every time someone asks a question.
[19:23] <koyetsu> yeah i was just hoping. this is prolly fairly simple as soon as i can dig up the right website
[19:23] <meet> i am on ubuntu 12.04. I don't want the mounted drives icons in the launcher. How do I remove them? I tried dconf-tools and csm but was not able to do that with any of these tools.
[19:24] <theadmin> meet: System Settings -> Details -> Removable Media -> Never prompt blah blah
[19:24] <theadmin> I don't know what logic this follows but that helps
[19:25] <meet> theadmin, not about prompt on connect. I am talking about the icons in the launcher on left side.
[19:26] <meet> or does never promp take care of that also?
[19:26] <theadmin> meet: Right... That's what I'm talking about too, I dunno, it seemed to work for me, I don't get such icons.
[19:26] <meet> ok thanks
[19:27] <oeeve> hello, I've been looking and looking, but is there no good surveyable ip access log programs for ubuntu? .. something that would just cleanly display the most active ips and ports for the last week etc,...instead of having to scroll throught hube log files, or terminal apps that just show you real time ?
[19:28] <busy87> hi all
[19:28] <theadmin> oeeve: There's always Wireshark, though that's going a bit far
[19:28] <busy87> i have a problem with xchat
[19:29] <busy87> xchat disappearing after minimize to tray
[19:29] <busy87> i have ubuntu 12.10
[19:30] <busy87> i have the same problem with xchat-gnome
[19:30] <tgm4883> oeeve, seems like opennms or cacti should do that but IDK
[19:31] <oeeve> theadmin Iv'e played around with wireshark, but it like your saying a bit to much.. it would just be nice to have a clean interface to see which ips are hammering you the most, what ports they are using etc.. i'v experienced some huge .xsession-errors logs lately, mostly with failed vnc login attempts for pakistan
[19:33] <theadmin> oeeve: Oh... huh. I found "bmon", that's terminal-based but seems simple enough and does what you want, try it
[19:33] <oeeve> tgm4883 opennms and cacti looks really interesting;p thanks:)
[19:34] <oeeve> theadmin bmon looks interesting too, thanks=p
[19:42] <krabador> hi, i've that http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632034/ , how can i do to set it as IEC958 ?
[19:45] <seekwill> Hello! I'm trying to automate the package installation of mysql-server. But that package prompts to set a new root password. Is there a way to bypass this? -y and -q didn't seem to suppress it
[19:47] <llutz> seekwill: http://serverfault.com/questions/407317/passing-default-answers-to-apt-get-package-install-questions
[19:48] <seekwill> llutz: Thanks!
[19:49] <seekwill> llutz: Ah, that's why when I purge the package, it doesn't prompt me again. It's stored there! Thanks!
[19:52] <krabador> hi, i've that http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632034/ , how can i do to set it as IEC958 ?
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> !repeat | krabador
[19:56] <jhutchins_wk> krabador: I think you need the nvidia controls application to do that - check the nvidia documentation.
[19:57] <jhutchins_wk> krabador:  Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English.
[19:58] <jhutchins_wk>              You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
[19:58] <libby> I'm trying to make windows7 the default os to boot.  THe tutorials I read start out with editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg, but that file says right int he beginning "Do not edit this file".  EH?
[19:59] <k1l_> libby: there are alot of bad tutorials from not so clever guys. yep
[19:59] <tgm4883> libby, it also says to edit the files in /etc/grub.d/  did you check there
[19:59] <escott> libby, /etc/default/grub or rename some files in /etc/grub.d
[20:00] <tgm4883> k1l_, not bad, just outdated
[20:00] <libby> Ok, so how do I make WIndows the default?  WHatever happened to menu.lst... sniff sniff...
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> libby, Can be done with grub or a gui called grub customizer  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1664134
[20:00] <k1l_> libby: in etc/default/grub there is the line "GRUB_DEFAULT="
[20:00] <escott> libby, menu.lst is grub1
[20:01] <llutz> libby, edit /etc/default/grub DEFAULT=
[20:01] <tgm4883> libby, did you read the README in /etc/grub.d/
[20:02] <libby> llutz, will that number change though as new linux kernels get added to the list?  Windows is the last one curently
[20:02] <libby> tgm4883, no -- heading over...
[20:02] <llutz> libby: unfortunately yes, better to rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 08_os-prober
[20:02] <escott> libby, you can rename the os-prober to a smaller number in /etc/grub.d and then set #1 in default/grub
[20:03] <k1l_> libby: you can write the name of the entry in there
[20:03] <lolyp0p> hi all, i'm trying to set a ftp server on my home computer, using the vsftpd package, for now I can acces to the files as anonymous, but not as my username,
[20:03] <escott> lolyp0p, most usage of ftp does not use real system users. if you want to use real system users why not use sftp
[20:04] <llutz> lolyp0p: local_enable=YES
[20:04] <escott> lolyp0p, which is dangerously insecure in most configurations
[20:05] <libby> exit
[20:05] <libby> bah...
[20:06] <gerep> Hi there, is there a sticky note application that works like those on mac? I installed xpad but I need it to be open. I need something that when I go to the desktop I see them
[20:07] <escott> !info tomboy | gerep
[20:07] <gerep> thanks ;)
[20:07] <lolyp0p> escott, what would be the "more secure" way to do this? it would be great just to have 2 users (doesn't have to be relatet to the computerusers) those need password to connect to 2 different private folders,
[20:08] <escott> lolyp0p, apt-get install openssh-server; sftp username@remotehost
[20:08] <escott> lolyp0p, with the first command run on the server, the second on the client
[20:08] <lolyp0p> escott, I already have a working ssh server on this computer,
[20:09] <escott> lolyp0p, so all you need to do is use sftp instead of ftp
[20:09] <escott> lolyp0p, that and "apt-get purge vsftpd" unless you have a legitimate need to run ftp
[20:10] <lolyp0p> escott,  thanks a lot, didn't know the real meaning of sftp(ftp via ssh), that's perfect for what I wanted,
[20:11] <escott> lolyp0p, sftp is not exactly ftp via ssh. thats probably closer to ftps which is ftp over ssl. sftp is ssh that talks like ftp but without all the broken stuff in the original ftp
[20:12] <gerep> escott, I installed that but I don't see how to add it to my desktop
[20:12] <escott> gerep, add it to gnome-session-properties to start on login
[20:12] <gerep> escott, it's working like xpad
[20:15] <libby> llutz, did I mess a step?  I move 30_os-prober to 08_os-prober and changed grub to read 1 instead of 0, and still booted to Ubuntu by default.
[20:15] <escott> libby, sudo update-grub
[20:15] <libby> escott, bah!
[20:16] <llutz> lolyp0p: GRUB_DEFAULT=0, isn't it? 1st entry=0
[20:16] <escott> libby, and as was suggested renaming the os-prober may not be necessary. you might be able to put Windows 7 or whatever in the default option. i've not tried it
[20:16] <lolyp0p> escott, ok, also : i'd like to be able to run a GUI application on my computer via ssh(have ssh client on my phone, and i'd like for example to start chromium-browser on my computer screen)(not as easy as "chromium browser &" :c)(it's a bit useless, but as i'm using my computer as a mediaplayer it'll be greate to start a video on youtube without going to it)
[20:16] <escott> lolyp0p, ssh -x user@remote
[20:17] <escott> lolyp0p, you mean you want it to pop up on the remote display
[20:17] <lolyp0p> yep,
[20:17] <lolyp0p> escott, yep
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> escott: Why is libby moving os-prober's priority?
[20:18] <escott> lolyp0p, in general you aren't guaranteed that said display is yours to draw on. but if it is you can export DISPLAY=:0; export XAUTHORITY=/home/username/.Xauthority and try to run the command then
[20:18] <Narigo> Hi there, i want to install javac. The openjdk-7-jdk has millions of dependencies which look like they want some kind of X / GUI stuff. I don't need and don't want that - what can i do to get some sort of openjdk-7-jdk-headless? (I know there is a openjdk-7-jre-headless package, but i need javac)
[20:19] <escott> jhutchins_wk, he wants windows first, and the concern is that new kernels will push the windows entry down (so it was #6 now its #8) and it starts booting an old linux kernel
[20:19] <jhutchins_wk> lolyp0p: You can also copy/append the magic cookie (complete line) from your .Xauthority to the target user's instead of changing the XAUTHORITY variable.
[20:19] <Spine> how do I forceclose aplications? Firefox has frozen so I cant google it
[20:20] <jhutchins_wk> escott: If he edits /etc/defaults/grub it should preserve it.
[20:20] <escott> Spine, gnome-system-monitor is the gui tool for that
[20:20] <escott> jhutchins_wk, not something ive ever done so i cant comment on the behavior wrt putting a numeric entry in that DEFAULT option
[20:20] <llutz> jhutchins_wk: only if he sets GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows bla foo" instead of a number
[20:20] <lolyp0p> Spine, in terminal "top" to see the PID, then "kill -9 PID" where PID is the PID of firefox
[20:20] <escott> jhutchins_wk, i just know that renaming the file has to work
[20:21] <Meris> Hmm, someone care to help out with a USB mount problem on Ubuntu 12.04LTS? I have 5HDD partitions mounted. New USB storage devices that are attached won't even show up in lsusb, let alone be mounted as a disk volume. They do not even show up in the syslog. The devices are perfectly fine. On My MacBook, they mount without a hitch. The USB3-card involved seems to be fine as well, because when I attach a powered device such as my HDD Dock, it will register.
[20:21] <Meris> I'm not running any power-hungry apps right now.
[20:21] <Spine> thanks
[20:21] <jhutchins_wk> Meris: Do they show up in dmesg?
[20:22] <lolyp0p> escott, it was a screen "path"/permission problems, i'll look read about XAUTHORITY to solve the problem(probably), thanks a lot
[20:22] <Meris> jhutchins_wk, no, not even there, they do light up their leds though.
[20:22] <jacky_911> hi :) i would like to know all games on Steam like leaft4dead2 are currently not available to install on ubuntu, is it true ?
[20:22] <jhutchins_wk> lolyp0p: Right, by default you do not have permission to write to another user's screen.
[20:22] <escott> lolyp0p, be wary of anything that suggests xhost +localhost. there are better ways than hammers to open windows
[20:23] <lolyp0p> escott, jhutchins_wk, any main keywords for my man-ing and google-ing?
[20:24] <tgm4883> jacky_911, Some games are not available on Linux.
[20:24] <escott> lolyp0p, MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE and XAuthority. there should me a manpage for xauth as well
[20:24] <Meris> jacky_911, I have most of the Humble Bundle games, many of them with steam keys as extra's. Many of the Humble Bundle games are also for sale in the Software Center
[20:24] <jhutchins_wk> jacky_911: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=steam+on+ubuntu
[20:24] <Zentaur> hi
[20:25] <jacky_911> oki :) do you when all games will be available ? i don't want to comeback on windows anymore :D
[20:25] <tgm4883> jacky_911, when the developer of the specific game releases a Linux version to be included in steam
[20:25] <Zentaur> i can't connect to my ubuntu 12.04 shared folder via samba.
[20:25] <lolyp0p> escott, thanks a lot,
[20:25] <Zentaur> the laptop uses ubuntu 12.04 as well
[20:26] <jacky_911> oki thx for informations :)
[20:26] <Zentaur> i see the shared folder and i enter the domain, user and pass but it is not recognsed and it asks me again
[20:26] <OerHeks> jacky_911, you might want to check #ubuntu-steam too
[20:27] <Zentaur> could anybody help me?
[20:27] <jacky_911> thx sir :)
[20:27] <tgm4883> !details | Zentaur
[20:27] <Meris> jhutchins_wk, hang on, I do get some lines in dmesg after inserting a USB device, , notably this odd error:  hub 9-0:1.0: cannot reset port 1 (err = -19) and one  later : hub 9-0:1.0: cannot  disable port 1 (err = -19)
[20:29] <vhann> Does anybody know why the ubuntu installation ISO would hang at 'Installing the system...' (1%)?
[20:29] <Zentaur> ubuntu 12.04 in both machines. Serser machine configured with gui samba srver configuration.
[20:30] <Zentaur> ports opened in firewall. security "user" with encripted pass. No guest allowed
[20:30] <tgm4883> Zentaur, did you try USER@DOMAIN  for the user?
[20:30] <bekks> Zentaur: Which ports did you open?
[20:31] <amigamia> what version of virtual box should i be running in 10.04?
[20:32] <tgm4883> amigamia, the latest?
[20:32] <Zentaur> I activated the service with guf firewall. 135, 139, 445 tcp and 137, 138 udp
[20:32] <amigamia> should i apt-get or get it from virtualbox?
[20:33] <escott> amigamia, we would always recommend apt-get install
[20:33] <tgm4883> amigamia, either should be fine. The one from virtualbox can access the closed source bits
[20:33] <amigamia> umm escott...
[20:33] <Meris> amigamia, apt-getting it through the normal sources would probably net you a relatively old, yet stable version
[20:33] <amigamia> that isnt the way to always go since the repositories are not always maintained
[20:33] <BillyZane> hello
[20:33] <Zentaur> user@domain doesn't work :(
[20:33] <jhutchins_wk> Meris: How many ports do you have?
[20:34] <amigamia> well i encountered that whole  issue with bigbluebutton running via apt-get and it was way out off version...
[20:34] <amigamia> well let me do aptget
[20:34] <amigamia> thanks
[20:34] <escott> amigamia, so? thats the official supported version. if it doesn't work for you then you can get it your own way
[20:34] <jhutchins_wk> Meris: Keep trying ports until you get the next hub, or reset the hub, or bad hardware.
[20:34] <BillyZane> When I attempt to connect to my computer through SSH from a remote location, I am unable to load X. It's also very slow. Is there a way I can load X remotely in a very lite environment?
[20:34] <tgm4883> escott, I don't think there is an official supported version of virtualbox
[20:35] <Meris> jhutchins_wk, just a sec...I have 10 ports, of which 8 are USB 2, 2 are USB 3, on as separate card.
[20:35] <jhutchins_wk> BillyZane: for GUI over WAN people usually use VNC or RDP instead of direct X.
[20:35] <hcheng> hey guys
[20:35] <amigamia> escott if it's to levels behind how can it be the current level? that's the problem with maintainers....they disappear...
[20:35] <escott> tgm4883, there is the version in apt. it may be in universe but at least that one we know where it puts its files
[20:35] <hcheng> do you guys know how to create a private irc channel?
[20:36] <Meris> jhutchins_wk, I'll try the other ports attached to other internal hubs.
[20:36] <escott> amigamia, no thats because you are running 10.04
[20:36] <tgm4883> escott, yes, but by definition, if it's universe it's officially unsupported
[20:36] <BillyZane> jhutchins_wk: I would be connected directly over the internet.
[20:36] <Frederick> guys im facing issues installing kibana (www.kibana.org) Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx). When I do bundle install I get Bundler::GemfileNotFound but sudo gem install bundler seems oki. Any ideas? It really seems environment related
[20:36] <escott> amigamia, if you want more recent versions of software run a more recent release
[20:36] <BillyZane> jhutchins_wk: i'm going to google RDP
[20:36] <Frederick> Done installing documentation for bundler after 8 seconds
[20:36] <amigamia> no escott i'm running what google coders are using as the official version that they know works.
[20:37] <amigamia> anyway
[20:37] <amigamia> thanks
[20:37] <jhutchins_wk> amigamia: If maintainers disappear the package gets dropped.
[20:37] <amigamia> and that statement you just made escott is not valid :)
[20:37] <BillyZane> jhutchins_wk: I think RDP might require too much bandwidth. I want to access my home PC from school ( I don't have a laptop ), and I want to be able to load X so I can see the results of experiments with openGL
[20:37] <jhutchins_wk> amigamia: Perhaps you should consider running gentoo or lfs.
[20:38] <tgm4883> jhutchins_wk, stop. That isn't helpful
[20:38] <jhutchins_wk> !vnc
[20:38] <BillyZane> jhutchins_wk: I don't mind using VIM and terminal to do most of the work, I just need to be able to see some of my graphical results
[20:38] <escott> amigamia, not valid how? when the release is made the versions are fixed except for backports or security releases. with very few exceptions (ie firefox and thats about it) the release does not track upstream versions
[20:38] <amigamia> jhutchins_wk well is there anywhere someone can pick up the fumbled ball? cause there are plenty of talented people to take over
[20:38] <jhutchins_wk> BillyZane: So you just need to forward single apps, not a full X desktop?
[20:39] <BillyZane> jhutchins_wk: yes
[20:39] <tgm4883> amigamia, pick up what fumbled ball?
[20:39] <jhutchins_wk> amigamia: I'm sure your voluntary contributions would be appreciated.
[20:39] <amigamia> escott i dont feel like arguing i am looking for a solution
[20:39] <jhutchins_wk> amigamia: If the current package is actually not functional you should file a bug against it.
[20:39] <amigamia> well i dont know what i have to do
[20:39] <Meris> jhutchins_wk, it seems that my USB3 is wonky after all, one of the USB 2.0 ports worked well. It seems that I have to reseat or replace my USB3 card...Thanks for the hints :-)
[20:39] <bekks> BillyZane: Then just use nxclient/nxserver and provide the applications you need.
[20:39] <tgm4883> amigamia, 'apt-get install virtualbox'
[20:40] <BillyZane> bekks: I was going to experiment with openGL, the applications I would be running would be C++ programs most likely
[20:40] <amigamia> the google developers are so satisfied with the performance of 10.04 and their product simple as that. it works!
[20:40] <amigamia> anyway how long is 10.04 server supported?
[20:40] <escott> amigamia, you asked "should i install with apt-get or download and install on my own" the answer to that is always "apt-get" if you have some special need that is not being meet by the apt-get version you can download your own version, but you can't expect people in channel to know anything about that version of the package
[20:40] <tgm4883> amigamia, what does that have to do with anything?
[20:40] <bekks> BillyZane: Then you dont want to forward X, but use NX/VNC.
[20:40] <tgm4883> amigamia, 5 years
[20:41] <tgm4883> amigamia, so april 2015
[20:41] <BillyZane> bekks: ok, i'll google that
[20:41] <BillyZane> bekks: what does forwarding X do anyway?
[20:41] <jhutchins_wk> BillyZane: See the link that ubottu posted above.
[20:41] <bekks> BillyZane: X forwarding is insecure and slow.
[20:41] <amigamia> what if you have desktop with server lets say? desktop won't be updated but server services etc will be?
[20:41] <BillyZane> bekks. slow is not good!
[20:41] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: Not over ssh.
[20:41] <BillyZane> jhutchins_wk: ok
[20:42] <tgm4883> amigamia, 10.04 desktop is supported until april 2013
[20:42] <jhutchins_wk> BillyZane: If you have X forwarding enabled on ssh it means you can start an X application from the command line and it will display on your local desktop.
[20:42] <jbollden> byobu-question, when I start a byobu-screen with the -S option byobu says "No screen session found" down to the right, the screen session works and exists in <..>/screens/S-<username>/ . Any pointers?
[20:42] <amigamia> so doesnt that present a problem if you have server and desktop installed?
[20:42] <BillyZane> jhutchins_wk: that's what i would prefer, but is it fast?
[20:42] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: Even over SSH. XDCMP isnt a compressed protocol, it doesnt provide mechanisms of compressing data - it entirely relies (in that case) on the compression of SSH, which isnt pretty fast as well.
[20:43] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: Like VNC, ssh does compression, so just forwarding a single app instead of a whole desktop can work.
[20:43] <tgm4883> amigamia, no, but doesn't matter anyway as with 12.04, both desktop and server have 5 year support
[20:43] <Zentaur> any idea?
[20:43] <Meris> amigamia, it's probably best to start planning the upgrade process
[20:43] <BillyZane> jhutchins_wk: that's precisely what i want. i want to forward a single app
[20:43] <OerHeks> amigamia, it is not a problem, as it has been told to you.
[20:43] <amigamia> well the word upgrade makes me think in otherwords new builds
[20:43] <amigamia> new installs
[20:43] <domtron> hello I'm trying to set up a headless 12.10 server but am having some trouble with the static ip. I just wanted to check and see if the fact that my ethernet is called p10p1 instead of eth# would be a problem. note I have internet access with dhcp. also note i'm a noob to server administration :P.
[20:43] <amigamia> a lot of hard work
[20:43] <amigamia> ok
[20:44] <amigamia> amazing virtualbox isnt in the repository
[20:45] <BillyZane> jhutchins_wk: i'm reading the link regarding SSH
[20:45] <escott> !info virtualbox | amigamia
[20:45] <tgm4883> amigamia, it is in the repository
[20:45] <vhann> Anybody has an idea why the installer would hang for 10 minutes (and counting) at 'net-retriever:' on tty4 while tty1 is completely blank (purple)?
[20:45] <amigamia> wierd escott i cant get it
[20:45] <khaled> Hello, I just upgraded my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and through addition driverse I choose the latest experimental nividia driver and I can't get the GUI working. Any ideas on how get it back working?
[20:45] <tgm4883> amigamia, oh my bad, in 10.04 it is named different. 'apt-get install virtualbox-ose'
[20:45] <genii-around> amigamia: You probably need universe repository enabled
[20:45] <Meris> amigamia, apt-cache search Virtual Box | grep -i 'virtual*box'
[20:45] <bekks> amigamia: I suggest using the official latest build from the official Oracle repo.
[20:45] <twmb> could somebody type 'sudo \mv ' and hit tab and tell me why it spams "bash: compopt: -o: option requires an argument compopt: usage: compopt [-o|+o option] [-DE] [name ...]"
[20:46] <escott> amigamia, its in universe so make sure that is enabled. its also possible it wasnt in lucid universe. i havent touched lucid in over two years now
[20:46] <escott> !info virtualbox lucid
[20:46] <amigamia> ok
[20:46] <tgm4883> !info virtualbox-ose lucid
[20:46] <amigamia> thanks meris ok escott
[20:46] <escott> thanks tgm4883
[20:46] <FreeRangeRadical> When I try to start my laptop running Ubuntu 12.10, Ubuntu starts then goes to a black screen with (initramfs). how do i get ubuntu to start? i'm using oneiric's cd in trial mode to get on here.
[20:46] <tgm4883> escott, nice, didn't know I could specify the release with !info
[20:47] <bekks> 3.1.6 isnt supported anymore by Oracle.
[20:47] <jbollden> anyone using byobu?
[20:47] <amigamia> oh well virtualbox isnt moving so i'll hvae to use vmware
[20:47] <tgm4883> bekks, who said it was?
[20:47] <amigamia> thanks
[20:47] <Meris> jbollden, yes, I am, why?
[20:47] <bekks> tgm4883: No one. I am just stating it.
[20:47] <jbollden> Meris: when I start a byobu-screen with the -S option byobu says "No screen session found" down to the right, the screen session works and exists in <..>/screens/S-<username>/ . Any pointers?
[20:47] <tgm4883> amigamia, depending on what you need. You could also use libvirt
[20:47] <kirkland> jbollden: whats up?
[20:47] <jbollden> kirkland: ^
[20:48] <lyppo_> hi guys
[20:48] <amigamia> yeppers virtualbox is history
[20:48] <khaled> I got error message, broken pipe. Any ideas on how to get the GUI working back please?
[20:48] <kirkland> jbollden: what version of byobu?
[20:48] <tgm4883> amigamia, or you could just use the oracle repo for virtualbox. You have many options
[20:48] <bekks> amigamia: Thats not true. There is an official repo for the latest official version.
[20:48] <jbollden> kirkland: 5.34
[20:49] <Meris> jbollden, did you try to attach the screen session to your byobu session?
[20:49] <jhutchins_wk> khaled: What were you doing?  Are you at a console now?
[20:49] <lyppo_> i have a doubt regarding LUKS, do i have to close (luksClose) my partitions mappings when i'm rebooting/shutdown the system? or leaving the partition unmounted is already enough?
[20:49] <khaled> jhutchins_wk: Yes, I am using the shell.
[20:49] <jbollden> Meris: you meen start the screen first and then via byobu? yes
[20:49] <jhutchins_wk> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[20:49] <jhutchins_wk> khaled: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[20:50] <gac> hi all, I've just installed 12.04.2 LTS on an old iMac (2006 model, Core Duo), but I've got no wired/wireless networking making it ultimately useless. any links to a guide I should be following? I simply booted from the install CD by holding C when restarting and everything worked and installed fine, but now i've found i've got no connectivity...
[20:50] <escott> jhutchins_wk, gdm? not lightdm for this guy?
[20:51] <BillyZane> jhutchins_wk: i'm browsing this link and it only seems to talk about VNC. this is different from forwarding a single application, no? How can I do that?
[20:51] <khaled> jhutchins_wk: It looks like the gdm was uninstalled. I don't know how! So I am reinstalling it. Does it have any thing to do with installing the nividia property driver?
[20:51] <escott> khaled, its lightdm
[20:51] <escott> khaled, the default display manager has changed
[20:51] <Meris> jbollden, *via* byobu?, like byobu-screen -r [screen session name]?
[20:51] <OerHeks> !mac | gac see the mac community pages for your model
[20:52] <escott> khaled, so you should sudo service lightdm restart
[20:52] <khaled> escott: I did that and I still get blank black screen
[20:52] <Meris> gac, I have a 2007 model here, do you know what chipsets are used for those functions?
[20:52] <woobyet> msg nickserv identify nine_9 giq90k27f
[20:53] <gac> not off the top of my head
[20:53] <tgm4883> whoops
[20:53] <gac> i think marvell wired and broadcom wifi
[20:53] <k1l_> nine_9: change the pws :)
[20:53] <khaled> escott: I had this problem after using experimental propirty driver.
[20:53] <Meris> gac, both manufacturers are notoriously closed source.
[20:53] <jbollden> Meris: screen -S test ... then byobu -r test ... yes that works, but then I'm miss the status rows
[20:54] <WeThePeople> where do i turn down the mouse sensitivity
[20:54] <gac> Meris: i know broadcom aren't great, but I've used marvell NICs under linux before, on intel desktop motherboards
[20:54] <escott> khaled, yeah i wouldn't touch nvidia with a 10 ft pole
[20:54] <Meris> jbollden, I'm not sure how to fix that, sorry.
[20:55] <khaled> escott: Do you have any idea how can I uninstall it through terminal. Or anyway to fix this problem?
[20:56] <escott> !find nvidia | khaled
[20:56] <jbollden> Meris: if I do "byobu" , then "byobu -r" it is all well, but as soon as I try to name the screen session with -S it "breaks" =/
[20:56] <Meris> gac, I have a bargain-bin RealTek NIC in my desktop PC. I do not use my Marvell GBit connection anymore. It was too much of hassle to get it working under Linux (no matter the distro)
[20:56] <khaled> escott: Thanks!
[20:57] <khaled> escott: And then restart x server?
[20:57] <gac> Meris: strange, i'm sure mine worked without too many problems (the sky2 driver was buggy occasionally but worked for the most part)
[20:57] <Meris> jbollden, it might be that screen and byobu-screen have compatibility issues
[20:57] <OerHeks> gac, terminal: lspci < should tell you the model
[20:57] <gac> Meris: thanks for the info though, this was kind of just a test because i was intrigued whether it would work, i think i'll just throw snow leopard back on and at least make it usable again
[20:57] <escott> khaled, i dont have that hardware so i can't really tell you. i think nvidia creates and xorg.conf that might need to be removed
[20:58] <jbollden> Meris: hmm ok
[20:58] <Meris> gac, I'm a bit of a Stallman type when it comes to main drivers (notable exception being my nVidia GPU). I don't do wrappers ;-)
[20:58] <gac> Meris: indeed, i'd rather not as they're a bodge...as i say, i was at least expecting the marvell card to be supported with sky2 so i could use wired (don't really need wireless)
[20:58] <gac> but hey ho :D
[20:58] <khaled> !xorg.conf
[20:59] <pecc> System clock is set to update from Net but it doesn't do it. I don't have a CMOS for the time being (nutshell version: laptop spontaneously set itself on fire) and Google refuses to serve me because of the un-updating system clock. Whether the connection is wireless or wired has no effect.
[20:59] <Meris> gac, Snow Leopard was easily my favourite Mac OS, Such a shame Apple doesn't support that version anymore (Shakes fist in vain at corporate monster)
[20:59] <khaled> !restart X
[20:59] <khaled> escott: What is the command to restart the X server?
[21:00] <escott> khaled, the service lightdm restart
[21:00] <gac> Meris: i've never tried anything later as i'm not actually a mac fan, but i've not heard great things :)
[21:00] <danishengher> how can I change the output in alsamixer from audio jack to microphone, the audio jack is broken..
[21:01] <vhann> danishengher: You can't output on a microphone jack
[21:01] <danishengher> vhann: on windows I've did that
[21:01] <danishengher> vhann: and it worked
[21:01] <vhann> danishengher: Then it is not a "microphone jack"
[21:02] <vhann> Maybe it is an input/output jack
[21:02] <danishengher> vhann: however, how can I change the audio to be output on it?
[21:02] <Meris> gac, neither am I, I just needed a system that ran a couple of commercial software (Sadly I need some software for my studies that does not play nice with Wine ;_; ) MacOS seemed a better alternative than Windows. I'm used to Unixey type OS'es
[21:02] <vhann> danishengher: Nevertheless, F6 in alsamixer
[21:02] <vhann> should do what you want
[21:02] <danishengher> vhann: tried that..
[21:03] <escott> danishengher, if it is intel HDA you can try the HDA-analyzer tool
[21:03] <gac> Meris: mix of windows machines (mainly for games and corporate compatibility) and linux (for servers/VPS/HTPC) here. the mac was a scrapper from work that i thought i'd rescue, so i can try and figure out how OSX works (or mostly doesn't...)
[21:04] <danishengher> escott: i don't know exactly if it is intel HDA, in alsamixer when I type F6 I have HDA Nvidia...
[21:05] <escott> danishengher, intel HDA means the spec is intel HDA. if it is HDA it is intel HDA, the chipset could be anyones
[21:05] <escott> danishengher, but dont confuse your HDMI audio with your core audio. nvidia HDA could be the HDMI
[21:05] <khaled> escott: I did remove nvidia-common but it removed the package ubuntu-desktop along with it and when I tried reinstalling the package ubuntu-desktop it reinstall nvidia-common along with it.
[21:07] <Meris> gac, I also have WindowXP (dual-boot) on my MacBook (since the flaky EFI that came with it doesn't support anything more modern ;_;) I'll have to kick that off at the start of 2014, since it won't be supported anymore. Oh, well...
[21:07] <gac> Meris: hurrah for software life cycles, eh
[21:07] <gac> one of the reasons i liked the idea of ubuntu on this mac if i could get it working to a reasonable standard, would give it a bit more life
[21:07] <gac> but not to be :)
[21:08] <Meris> gac, yes, another thing why I love Unchained OS'es like Linux and *BSD
[21:08] <danishengher> escott: and what you suggest me to do?
[21:09] <danishengher> escott: I've ran hda analyzer; what I should change here?
[21:09] <Meris> gac, yes, a sensible thing to do. And it has nice audio ports (both copper and optical combined :-D ). Hmm, perfect for backing up my Vinyl.
[21:09] <Anoniman86> Is it safe to use xorg-edgers PPA for update mesa drivers and fglrx?
[21:10] <Meris> Anoniman86, I use it without any problems so far, but your mileage may vary,,,
[21:10] <escott> danishengher, its a rather complex tool, and i dont really have time to explain how it all works. presumably there is some documentation on the alsa site about what it does
[21:11] <francis> hello new out here i have trendnet wifi tew-643pc how do i get it to work
[21:11] <Meris> francis, please *pastebin* the output of lspci
[21:12] <francis> Meris pls how do i do it I m just a regular user
[21:13] <Meris> francis, open up a terminal screen (the black screen with the > in it) and type lspci > pcilist.txt
[21:13] <Meris> Afterwards, you can paste the contents of the file you got at paste.ubuntu.com
[21:14] <thebishop> francis, perhaps there should be an included gui tool for all this common debuggery
[21:14] <thebishop> one-click to pastebin lspci for example
[21:14] <thebishop> comes up all the damn time
[21:15] <OerHeks> !pastebinit
[21:15] <thebishop> or assuming all this crap is in the ubuntu "Sorry Your App Crashed, Bro" widget, provide all that data to the user in a zip file
[21:15] <Meris> OerHeks, nice one
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Never knew that existed
[21:17] <thebishop> OerHeks, wouldn't help in this case.  if the problem is the terminal itself
[21:17] <Anoniman86> Can skype provide bad stability of fglrx drivers? I think that skype degrades my gaming peformance, cpu usage is not problem, it is driver problem after using skype
[21:18] <mizio> oila
[21:18] <Meris> Oerheks, works really well. Nifty :-)
[21:20] <jbollden> Meris: seems I found the problem, I rebuilt the package to not include the deps (the deps are installed before) and now it seems to work
[21:20] <escott> Anoniman86, skype doesn't use GL so its hard to imagine how it would
[21:20] <k1l_> Anoniman86: i dont think so.
[21:20] <TK-999> Skype needs an awful lot of libraries
[21:20] <Meris> jbollden, very nice, it won't update though when a new version comes out, better file a bug if this is supposed to work
[21:25] <krabador> hi, i've that http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632034/ , how can i do to set it as IEC958 ?
[21:30] <krabador> can you help me?
[21:30] <khaled__> escott: I removed the nvidia driver. And I got the GUI working, but everytime I start the PC. It keeps on loading showing the Ubuntu logo and I have to open the shell and restart the lightdm to get it working probably.
[21:32] <piero55> quit
[21:32] <sysop2> hi!
[21:33] <sysop2> how can I use logrotate to make sure there are never more than x number of log files, the problem is the program rotates the log itself it just does not cleanup after itself. so how can I use logrotate just to cleanup?
[21:34] <khaled__> escott: I will try rebooting and when I come back I'll let you know if you have any idea about what is happening
[21:36] <quidnunc> Where can I get ssl certificate fingerprints?
[21:37] <Trudko_> guys I have ubuntu server in vmplayer under the windows and how would I connect to it using putty? not sure if this is really ubuntu questions
[21:37] <Trudko_> question
[21:37] <krabador> hi, i've that http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632034/ , how can i do to set it as IEC958 ?
[21:37] <tgm4883> Trudko_, is the IP address for the guest OS on the same subnet?
[21:38] <tgm4883> Trudko_, is vmplayer in bridged networking mode?
[21:38] <Trudko_> tgm4883: we it is same pc
[21:38] <khaled__> escott: I am back incase if you have any hint
[21:39] <Trudko_> tgm4883: well it is on same pc and not it is not bridged it is NAT:used to share the hosts ip adress
[21:39] <tgm4883> Trudko_, did you try to just SSH to the IP address of the guest OS?
[21:39] <Trudko_> tgm4883:  what do you mean by guest os? do you mean OS under which vmplayer is running - in this caser my own pc?
[21:40] <tgm4883> Trudko_, no, that would be the host OS
[21:40] <TheLordOfTime> Trudko_, "Guest OS" means what's running in the VM.  Host OS is what's running the VMs.
[21:40] <tgm4883> Trudko_, the guest OS, is what is running in vmplayer
[21:40] <Trudko_> i see and to get guest os ip should I just use ifconfig in cmd?
[21:41] <tgm4883> Trudko_, you would do that in the guest OS
[21:41] <krabador> please help me, it's mute, and apparently right .....
[21:41] <Trudko_> tgm4883: but i want to connect form Host OS to Guest OS
[21:42] <tgm4883> Trudko_, do you know the IP address of the guest OS?
[21:42] <linux|newb> server 12.10 - can not get my nameserver addresses to remain how I want them... initially I changed them in resolv.conf and then read that will just get overwritten so have instead appended .../network/interfaces but still resolv.conf displays the ones dished up via dhcp before I set the interface to static.
[21:42] <linux|newb> any ideas?
[21:42] <Trudko_> tgm4883: well that is my guestion really what ip to use on my Host os to get to Guest os. should I just run ifconfig and see what ip it gives me?
[21:43] <cuiltalk> would appreciate some assistance  on the follow issue:   I am having  problems logging on the  Gui on Ubuntu 12.4 LTS . I  type the  password , but  kick  back  to the login screen.  when I attempt  login   with live cd   to rename the  "Xauthority"  file for a  possible  the  home   will only  mount as (ro)  with reiserfs file system. Next question is  how do get the reiserfs  file system to mount as (rw) from the terminal .. thank
[21:43] <tgm4883> Trudko_, on your host OS, I think you can use the IP address of your guest machine. So you need to go to the guest machine and run ifconfig to find the IP address
[21:43] <jhutchins_wk> linux|newb: Make sure you're not still running dhclient/network manager.
[21:44] <linux|newb> jhutchins_wk: ahaaa!
[21:44] <jhutchins_wk> cuiltalk: What's wrong with the console?  Can you log in there?
[21:44] <FreeRangeRadical> Today, when I tried to log on, my computer takes me to a black screen with <initramfs>. how do i get it to boot into ubuntu? If i go to the boot manager and select HDD, it will start ubuntu, then go back to the black screen. right now, i'm on oneiric running from CD.
[21:45] <cuiltalk>  no  I can't
[21:45] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: It sounds like it's not booting all the way.  need to pay attention to what errors it might display.
[21:46] <FreeRangeRadical> jhutchins: where would they be displayed? i've seen none in the 3 dozen or so times I've tried to boot.
[21:46] <linux|newb> jhutchins_wk: it needs disabling as opposed to just stopping, right? otherwise on the rare occassion I reboot, it'll just start again...
[21:46] <jhutchins_wk> cuiltalk: Soulds like you've run a filemanager or some GUI app with sudo and messed up the permissions of your home directory.
[21:46] <Trudko_> tgm4883: well it says that inet address is 192.168.205.128  and using port 22 i get connection refused
[21:46] <tgm4883> Trudko_, did you install the ssh service in the guest OS?
[21:47] <Trudko_> yeah that would be problem i think not
[21:47] <Trudko_> yet
[21:47] <Trudko_> let me google it
[21:47] <tgm4883> Trudko_, 'apt-get install ssh'
[21:47] <jhutchins_wk> cuiltalk: sudo mount -o remount, rw
[21:47] <Trudko_> tgm4883: any additional setup?
[21:47] <tgm4883> Trudko_, no, it should auto start
[21:48] <Trudko_> thx that did a trick
[21:49] <Physicist> I have one little issue in my ubuntu desktop.. It is so much slow.. Preload does not wotk here, and I am with no patience...
[21:49] <tgm4883> yw
[21:49] <Physicist> There bootloader does not wrk too.. I am sad..
[21:50] <jhutchins_wk> Physicist: Slow compared to what?  What release are you running on what hardware?
[21:51] <Physicist> jhutchins_wk: UBUNTU 12.04 LTS - AMD 3500 A8 WITH RADEON 6620G - 1TB, 6GB.
[21:52] <jhutchins_wk> cuiltalk: If you remount it, then do sudo mount, does it show it remounted read/write?
[21:52] <johnjohn1013> is it ok to load the 13.04 wallpapers on 12.04?
[21:52] <jhutchins_wk> Physicist: So reasonable hardware, we are back to "slow compared to what"?
[21:52] <psil0cybin> hey guys quick question is it safe to install a deb from
[21:52] <psil0cybin> https://launchpad.net/
[21:52] <psil0cybin> ?
[21:52] <linux|newb> ...also, anyone know why my network ifc in ubuntu12.10 server is em1 and not eth0?
[21:52] <auronandace> johnjohn1013: a wallpaper is a wallpaper
[21:52] <FreeRangeRadical> jhutchins_wk: when i start ubuntu, i see no errors. where would i see them prior to the <initramfs> prompt?
[21:52] <tgm4883> psil0cybin, that isn't enough info
[21:52] <jhutchins_wk> linux|newb: Dell?
[21:52] <psil0cybin> i want to install this app
[21:53] <psil0cybin> https://launchpad.net/plymouth-manager
[21:53] <cuiltalk>  ok  wait
[21:53] <psil0cybin> i tried doing sudo apt-get install
[21:53] <psil0cybin> it cant find it
[21:53] <linux|newb> jhutchins_wk: HP Micro Server
[21:53] <cuiltalk>   let me
[21:53] <Physicist> jhutchins_wk: compared to "ubuntu" - it is a fast O.S.... right?
[21:53] <Physicist> jhutchins_wk: It is no
[21:53] <tgm4883> psil0cybin, do you trust Mario Guerriero?
[21:53] <Physicist> jhutchins_wk: It is not ok..
[21:53] <psil0cybin> i dunno im overly suspicious
[21:53] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: Try pressing escape after the grub menu starts to load, or edit the kernel parameters to eliminate "quiet".
[21:54] <psil0cybin> thats why i wanted to know what you guys thought cuz i was supposed to be able to get the app from using apt-get
[21:54] <tgm4883> psil0cybin, if you don't trust Mario Guerriero, then no
[21:54] <psil0cybin> but apparently, it isnt there.
[21:54] <psil0cybin> righto :) thanks
[21:54] <psil0cybin> better be safe than sorry
[21:55] <jhutchins_wk> linux|newb: In order to make it easier to figure out which port is which on newer multi-port servers they've changed the naming conventions in newer servers.
[21:55] <FreeRangeRadical> jhutchins_wk: how does one edit the kernel parameters?
[21:55] <linux|newb> jhutchins_wk: cheers
[21:55] <jhutchins_wk> em1 is the second (first?) embedded NIC, pci1 would be on a card, etc.
[21:56] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: Press esc at the gru boot menu.  Highlight the entry you want to modify and hit e.  Highlight the middle line and hit e again.  Enter to exit, b to boot.
[21:56] <psil0cybin> tgm4883, another question i added this in the process of trying to get the app ~$ sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mefrio-g/plymouthmanager
[21:56] <psil0cybin> how would i remove it from the repository
[21:56] <tgm4883> psil0cybin, sudo apt-add-repository -r ppa:mefrio-g/plymouthmanager
[21:56] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: Did this system ever boot after install?
[21:57] <psil0cybin> tgm4883, thank you!
[21:58] <FreeRangeRadical> jhutchins_wk: it has worked everyday since mid-october when 12.10 came out except the day after the a kernel update about a month ago. yesterday there was a kernel update, too.
[21:59] <psil0cybin> hey guys another quick question anyone know how i can change the bootscreen right after Grub, before the splash screen..currently i have Xubuntu in white and the dots under is there anyway to change that screen to just an image lets say?
[22:01] <krabador> hi, i've that http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632034/ , how can i do to set it as IEC958 ?
[22:01] <linux|newb> hmm, even with dhclient killed the changes don't stick after a restart of networking services
[22:02] <tgm4883> psil0cybin, that is the splash
[22:02] <tgm4883> !splash | psil0cybin
[22:03] <linux|newb> I just wanna be able to communicate by hostnames :(
[22:03] <rob_p> linux|newb: You can add the hostname mappings to your /etc/hosts file...
[22:04] <linux|newb> rob_p: yer, appreciate that, but it's a bit of a bodge
[22:04] <linux|newb> imo
[22:04] <tgm4883> linux|newb, netbios is a bit of a bodge
[22:05] <rob_p> linux|newb: So you presumably have a local nameserver that handles local lookups, and you want to use that nameserver?
[22:05] <CHIex|2> Hello, anybody knows of easy to setup software for limiting speed of internet on the computer with Ubuntu?
[22:05] <linux|newb> rob_p: yep - relying on router
[22:05] <_jason_> ha!
[22:06] <psil0cybin> tgm4883, im using xubuntu im guessing it woudnt be a gnome command
[22:06] <psil0cybin> sorry i forgot to say that
[22:06] <psil0cybin> or its still the same?
[22:07] <psil0cybin> and the splash screen is the screen before i even log in? I thought it was for after i logged in and logged off
[22:08] <rob_p> linux|newb: Why not just specify your local nameserver IP in the network settings within network-manager?
[22:08] <cuiltalk> ?DCC chat max401  how are you
[22:08] <tgm4883> psil0cybin, I've not heard that called the spash screen
[22:08] <tgm4883> psil0cybin, http://askubuntu.com/questions/70887/replace-the-xubuntu-11-10-splash-screen
[22:08] <tgm4883> psil0cybin, that's the best I can do
[22:09] <AndChat327600> Hh
[22:09] <tgm4883> rob_p, he's gone
[22:09] <AndChat327600> Polish irc where is
[22:09] <rob_p> tgm4883: ah, ok.  I filter parts and joins, hehe! :)
[22:09] <auronandace> !pl | AndChat327600
[22:10] <psil0cybin> tgm4883, The best you can do is good enough :) You have been a big help today! cheers
[22:10] <AndChat327600> Very thanks
[22:10] <psil0cybin> i loveee the ubuntu community :)
[22:10] <AndChat327600> Exit
[22:13] <k1lled> !bg
[22:15] <psil0cybin> wow bulgarian
[22:15] <psil0cybin> looks like russian :S
[22:15] <psil0cybin> looks like the news papers my dad reads
[22:17] <cuiltalk>   I  have trouble with the  remount
[22:18] <khaled__> I get an error when loading ubuntu "couldn't write byte: broken pipe" any ideas?
[22:18] <ikonia> khaled__: depends at what point
[22:19] <cuiltalk> *Jhutchins_wk*  are  you still out there  Jhutchins_wk
[22:20] <khaled__> ikonia: I have upgraded my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and since then I have been getting a problem that the GUI doesn't start. And then I fixed it, but everytime the Ubuntu startsup I have to go to the Shell (F1) to sudo lightdm restart to get it working, otherwise the ubuntu logo keeps on loading forever
[22:20] <FreeRangeRadical> jhutchins_wk: i've downloaded a copy of 12.10. should I take the 11.10 disc that i'm running on right now out and put in the 12.10 disc, or what?
[22:20] <Guest25108> test
[22:20] <cuiltalk> * jhutchins_wk   I am getting the hang  of this. it has been a while,  jutchins_wk
[22:21] <ikonia> khaled__: still need more info
[22:23] <Bray90820> test
[22:26] <khaled__> ikonia: Tell me what can I do to send you more info, please help I had this problem for over a week
[22:26] <ikonia> khaled__: you need to work out what is complaining of a broken pipe
[22:26] <param_> how to make apache websver public assecible ?
[22:26] <ikonia> param_: assign it to an ip address on a public network
[22:27] <HateYoFace> is it a pain in the ass to dualboot windows 8 and ubuntu on a ssd?
[22:27] <ikonia> HateYoFace: SSD has nothing to do with it
[22:27] <param_> i am using trystack cloud
[22:27] <ikonia> HateYoFace: SSD's are just a disk
[22:27] <ikonia> HateYoFace: your bios/secure boot is the only real limit
[22:27] <param_> i installed apache2 on a cloud
[22:28] <param_> now when i host the website , i dont get anything on browser
[22:28] <khaled__> ikonia: I don't have enough knowledge to know, could you point me to what should I read or help?
[22:28] <ikonia> khaled__: run through the init scripts
[22:28] <HateYoFace> well i tried dual booting windows 8 and ubuntu awhile back and i was just frustrated
[22:28] <ikonia> param_: 1.) is apache running 2.) is it assigned to a public/interenet IP address
[22:28] <cuiltalk>  how to can reiserfs file system  be mount  with rw  permission from the terminal
[22:29] <HateYoFace> i ended up just reformatting and putting windows 8 back on but id really love to have ubuntu again for security purposes
[22:29] <param_> yes apache is running ..........
[22:29] <ikonia> cuiltalk: it mounts read / write by default
[22:29] <lily12> hi
[22:29] <ikonia> HateYoFace: for security purposes ?
[22:29] <param_> yes i assigned  it to a internet IP address
[22:29] <ikonia> param_: what is hte IP it's assigned to
[22:29] <param_> hey what would be servername ? will it be IP address of VM ?
[22:30] <HateYoFace> the fact you dont have to worry about virus's on linux and i can still back up all my stuff to my ubuntu partition and put it back if i had to restore windows
[22:30] <param_> http://208.123.85.202/
[22:30] <ikonia> param_: what did you set it to in the apache2.conf
[22:30] <ikonia> param_: you said you had set it...you should know what you set it to
[22:30] <cuiltalk> *ikonia*   For  some reason it  is not  mount  from the live cd  using ubuntu 12.4
[22:30] <ikonia> cuiltalk: please explain
[22:31] <param_> yes i set that ip only
[22:31] <cuiltalk>  *ikonia*  here is my situation :       I am having  problems logging on the  Gui on Ubuntu 12.4 LTS . I  type the  password , but  kick  back  to the login screen.  when I attempt  login   with live cd   to rename the  "Xauthority"  file for a  possible  the  home   will only  mount as (ro)  with reiserfs file system. Next question is  how do get the reiserfs  file system to mount as (rw) from the terminal .. thanks
[22:31] <ikonia> param_: can you show me the line in the config file you set it to please.
[22:31] <Bray90820> test
[22:31] <anew> to leave a tmux session running what do you do? just disconnect from putty and that's it ?
[22:31] <Bray90820> can you read me
[22:31] <khaled__> ikonia: What should I do with those scripts, I don't understand anything :D
[22:31] <Ponch0> test 1, 2
[22:31] <Ponch0> 1, 2, 3
[22:31] <HateYoFace> in the next disto of ubuntu is there gonna be a install alongside windows 8 option?
[22:31] <ikonia> cuiltalk: was /home created by the ubuntu install ?
[22:31] <genii-around> !test | Ponch0
[22:32] <Ponch0> thank you!
[22:32] <Artful> hey guys, I'm having a nightmare getting cedartrail-graphics-drivers package working on 12.04.2 -- any advice?
[22:32] <Ponch0> Today I learned
[22:33] <param_> hey ikonia    i set Document root in apache2.conf
[22:33] <ikonia> param_: that has nothing to do with the ip address
[22:33] <param_> didnt set any IP there
[22:33] <ikonia> param_: right, so that's why it's not working
[22:33] <ikonia> param_: you need to set it to a valid FQDN or IP address
[22:34]  * canihojr saluda
[22:34] <param_> oh ok , i set IP in httpd.conf
[22:34] <ikonia> param_: ubuntu doesn't use httpd.conf
[22:34] <ikonia> param_: please show me the output of "uname -a" please.
[22:35] <khaled__> ikonia: I am a normal user not computer expert who use Ubuntu for my daily activites. And as recommended to me that to run Ubuntu you don't have to be an expert. And I didn't play in anything I just updated the system and I got that problem, I don't know what to do.
[22:35] <ikonia> khaled__: have you had that problem since you installed ?
[22:36] <Bray90820> Can anyone read my text
[22:36] <param_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632615/  ikonia
[22:36] <ikonia> Bray90820: be nice if you could stop testing please.
[22:36] <ikonia> param_: that's not an official ubuntu kernel
[22:36] <picca> i can Bry8Star
[22:36] <cuiltalk> *ikonia*  yes, but I  am using a  live boot to correct the  problem , My home  partition  in sda12 and  I mounting  it to   hmsda12 but getting ro
[22:36] <Bray90820> sorry i just didn't know if i was properly connected
[22:36] <khaled__> ikonia: No, it ran perfectly for over a year and it was very stable, until I updated the system. That's it!
[22:36] <ikonia> cuiltalk: mount -o rw
[22:37] <param_> oh ok , so whats the solution ? cant i host website onto this
[22:37] <cuiltalk>  *ikonia*   exampl
[22:37] <ikonia> cuiltalk: mount -o rw
[22:37] <ikonia> param_: no idea, - it's not an ubuntu install by the looks of it
[22:37] <ikonia> cuiltalk: I just gave you the flag
[22:37] <param_> you please tell what i need to enter in apache2.conf ....... let me give a try  .. how to write IP there
[22:38] <cuiltalk>  *ikonia*  ok  example is has follows:  mount  /dev/sda12  hmsda12   this give me a  read only
[22:38] <ikonia> param_: it's not an official ubuntu build, we don't support unofficial builds here
[22:38] <cuiltalk>  *ikonia* I will try  your suggestion
[22:38] <ikonia> cuiltalk: yes, you missed -o rw as I told you
[22:38] <param_> oh okies :)
[22:38] <johnjohn1013> will there be a 3.8 kernel for 12.04 anytime soon?
[22:38] <ikonia> johnjohn1013: doubtful
[22:39] <krims> is there a bug with the VPN service in 12.10 ?
[22:39] <ikonia> krims: look on launchpad.net
[22:39] <ikonia> krims: all logged bugs are there
[22:39] <cuiltalk> *ikonia*  it is still mounting as read only (ro)
[22:40] <param_> ikonia this ubuntu is just for testing pupose . nothing else
[22:40] <ikonia> cuiltalk: please show me the output of the command "mount" on it's own, use a pastebin
[22:40] <ikonia> param_: so ?
[22:40] <param_> its of trystack cloud, you might be familiar with it
[22:40] <krims> like a librarian on horseback
[22:40] <param_> openstack and all
[22:40] <cuiltalk> *ikonia* root@ubuntu:/# mount -o rw /dev/sda12 hmsda12  mount: warning: hmsda12 seems to be mounted read-only.
[22:40] <ikonia> cuiltalk: that's not what I asked for
[22:40] <Artful> anyone have working driver for gma 3600? -- having problems here
[22:40] <Ponch0> uhhh how do I accept the terms of service in #ubuntu+1
[22:41] <ikonia> cuiltalk: also hmsda12 is not a valid mountpoint
[22:41] <ikonia> Ponch0: what ?
[22:41] <ikonia> Ponch0: there are no terms of service, it's an IRC channel
[22:41] <Ponch0> ikonia: I dunno I feel like i'm muted in the channel I think I have to accept some terms about being logged no?
[22:41] <ikonia> Ponch0: you're not muted,
[22:41] <Ponch0> ikonia: heh I feel silly
[22:41] <param_> anyways thanks ikonia :)
[22:42] <ikonia> cuiltalk: umount hmsda12
[22:42] <ccvp> Hello fellow internet addicts - are we all looking forward to another long & glorious evening of watching irc text scroll up, getting lazy in our internet chair, and slouching back while playing pc games, having snakes, drinking some alcohol, and continuing our beloved tradition of yet another evnening on the Internatz? LawlZ
[22:42] <Ponch0> silly wabbit ubuntu is for ppl who understand computers
[22:42] <linuxdude_> hello
[22:42] <ikonia> cuiltalk: then sudo mount -o rw /dev/sda12 /some/mount/point
[22:42] <ikonia> Ponch0: please don't make pointless comments
[22:42] <khaled__> ikonia: I even tried apt-get --purge remove and reinstalled lightdm nvidi-current xorg
[22:42] <cuiltalk> *ikonia*  ok  the  hmsda12 the  folder that created as  a temp mount point  while using the live boot  environment
[22:42] <Ponch0> ikonia: my apolgoies.
[22:42] <ikonia> khaled__: seems a bit random
[22:43] <ikonia> khaled__: unless you know what's failing
[22:43] <cuiltalk> *ikonia*  when mount the  boot  partition   it works
[22:43] <ikonia> cuiltalk: sorry what ?
[22:43] <cuiltalk> *IkonIa* ok I will try
[22:44] <linuxdude_> Added background imagse to /usr/shar/background. Is there any better way of doing this http://askubuntu.com/a/168718
[22:44] <khaled__> ikonia: What I have to do to fix the problem is to restart the lightdm. Is there anything I can do to reinstall everything from the start without deleting anything.
[22:44] <Ponch0> Question, when I leave computer for a few, the screen shuts off and I can't log back in, I just see the mouse cursor, anyone know what may cause it?
[22:44] <ikonia> Ponch0: please ask in #ubuntu+1 - you're using 13.04
[22:44] <Ponch0> or how to fix it thorugh command line?
[22:44] <ikonia> Ponch0: please stop trying to bypass the topics
[22:44] <krabador> hi, i've that http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632034/ , how can i do to set it as IEC958 ?
[22:44] <Ponch0> ikonia: tough, ok sorry again
[22:45] <ikonia> khaled__: I have no idea what the issue is, without understanding the problem/failure
[22:46] <linuxdude_> Adding background images to /usr/share/background. Is there any better way of doing this http://askubuntu.com/a/168718
[22:47] <ikonia> linuxdude_: what ?
[22:47] <ikonia> linuxdude_: adding background images to a directory, is there a better way of adding files to a directoy ?
[22:47] <cuiltalk> *ikonia*   Ok  ikonia  , I must go now  but thank for your help
[22:48] <linuxdude_> No, I dont want to spam the irc, click on the link
[22:48] <ikonia> linuxdude_: no, I'm not clicking a link, just ask the question
[22:48] <Trudko_> guys i created dir under home/myuser/  new directory called worK?
[22:48] <Trudko_> work
[22:48] <linuxdude_> lol
[22:48] <Trudko_> using sudo mkdir work but now i cant copy files there i have permission deneid
[22:49] <ikonia> Trudko_: why did you use sudo
[22:49] <Trudko_> because i am relatively new to linux and i have no idea what am i doing ? :D
[22:49] <ikonia> Trudko_: no need for sudo
[22:49] <ikonia> Trudko_: sudo rm /home/myuser/work - then "mkdir /home/myuser/work"
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> Trudko_  inside /home/username, you don't need sudo
[22:50] <jhutchins_wk> Trudko_: When you used sudo, you created the directory as root.  The defalt permissions for the directory are that only the owner/creator can access it.
[22:51] <Trudko_> well if i was logged as user X and i used sudo folder shouldnt be X user able to access it? I loged remotely
[22:51] <ejv> probably best to checkout a book on linux basics from your local library
[22:51] <linuxdude_> I'm trying to display my added background pictures in the wallpaper folder.
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> ejv: C'mon, all that stuff's on line these days.
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> Ubuntu has console tutorials.
[22:52] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com
[22:52] <ikonia> introduction to ubuntu
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> Trudko_: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html
[22:53] <ejv> nothing beats holding a text in your hand, reading documentation on a screen is awful, especially for extended periods of time
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> ejv: Hence the great popularity and success of ebooks.
[22:53] <ejv> don't get me started on ebooks, equally terrible, DRM vermin.
[22:54] <Tex_Nick> Trudko_:  you might also have a look at this ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:55] <param_> how to set IP address in apache.conf ?
[22:56] <jhutchins_wk> I need to move that first one to the end, nobody knows DOS/Windows console commands any more.
[22:56] <ikonia> param_: apologies if I didn't make that clear ealier
[22:56] <jhutchins_wk> param_: Listen
[22:56] <ikonia> param_: we don't support your custom ubuntu build here
[22:56] <ejv> param_: #apache
[22:56] <param_> okies
[22:56] <storrgie> how do I register a script in /etc/init.d so that I can start/stop/run it as a service?
[22:57] <ejv> he didn't say anything about a custom build, what are you talking about? lol
[22:57] <ikonia> ejv: his system is a virtual guest that they hoster has customized, we established this earlier
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> ikonia: Not really gonna affect apache config.
[22:58] <ejv> treat his question seperately, just point him to #apache or this: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/bind.html
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> ikonia: Is it more than just a kernel?
[22:58] <ikonia> jhutchins_wk: that doesn't matter, and you don't know what it effects as hyou don't know what he's customized
[22:58] <ikonia> we don't support custom spins - in any aspect
[22:58] <ikonia> ejv: the apache docs are not helpful due to the fact that ubuntu lays it out different than the apache standard
[22:59] <ikonia> ejv: and #apache is not the right channel, hence not pointing him there
[22:59] <ejv> im almost 99% certain there's a table in the apache online documentation that lists the changes in layout per distribution
[22:59] <ikonia> ejv: feel free to help him in another channel/private
[22:59] <ejv> forgive me, #httpd
[22:59] <ejv> there's a redirect in place. lol
[23:01] <jhutchins_wk> Dang, apache is VirtualHost, not Listen.  What's Listen from?
[23:01] <StephanC> Hello there, does anyone know how wallpapers get selected to become part of next Ubuntu Release?
[23:01] <ejv> i think you're missing the point ikonia, I haven't been following his history in here, but his question was pretty 'vanilla' to me, point the poor guy in the proper direction / pass the buck.
[23:01] <ikonia> ejv: I think you're missing the point, we don't support custom distrubtions here, because we don't know what's changed/not changed.
[23:02] <ejv> I haven't been following his history, his question made no mention of anything customized; I'm well aware of what's supported here.
[23:02] <ikonia> ejv: right, so it is a custom virtual build as I explained earlier, hence why "not supported here"
[23:03]  * ejv facepalms
[23:04] <Riley88> just out of curiousity has anyone here tried ubuntu tweak on 13.04 when i try to do the window manager options it gives an error
[23:04] <ikonia> Riley88: #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel for 13.04 discussion
[23:05] <FreeRangeRadical> when i try to boot, i get a black screen with <initramfs> on it, nothing else. Short of having to update from 11.10 to 12.04 to 12.10, is there any way to get this fixed?
[23:05] <StephanC> Reason I'm asking is that I took and processed a photo and put it up as a wallpaper on my desktop three months ago.  Everyone who walks by my workstation is quite impressed and/or wants it as desktop wallpaper as well.
[23:06] <Jeruvy> I want to make disk images of ext3/4 partitions to restore on (bigger) partitions Is there a recommended tool to use for this?
[23:06] <ejv> Jeruvy: man dd
[23:06] <jhutchins_wk> StephanC: see what package the default wallpapers are from.  Find the maintainer of that package, contact them and offer them the picture.
[23:06] <Jeruvy> ejv no thanks
[23:07] <ejv> ...
[23:07] <StephanC> Thanks jhutchins_wk! That's a good idea.
[23:07] <jhutchins_wk> Jeruvy: Wait, you not only want an incorrect answer, you want a *specific* incorrect answer?
[23:08] <Jeruvy> jhutchins_wk No silly, I want a tool that works.
[23:08] <jhutchins_wk> Jeruvy: You're the one who's being silly then.
[23:08] <ejv> I can barely contain myself.
[23:09] <Jeruvy> ejv what parameters would I use then smarty.
[23:09] <ejv> Please look at 'dd' again, it really is a great program, I challenge anyone to find something that does what it does.
[23:09] <jhutchins_wk> Jeruvy: man dd doesn't take any parameters - dd is the parameter that specifies the man page.
[23:09] <ejv> Jeruvy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging#Backup_with_dd
[23:09] <Jeruvy> jhutchins_wk if you don't have any help to add them keep your comments to yourself, thanks
[23:10] <jhutchins_wk> Be rude.  See what kind of help it gets you.
[23:10] <Jeruvy> jhutchins_wk obviously none from you, so no loss there
[23:11]  * tgm4883 reads backlog
[23:11] <FreeRangeRadical> when i boot my machine, i get a black screen with <initramfs>. how do i get past this and boot ubuntu 12.10? it has worked fine except after kernel updates. the bios are updated.
[23:12] <ejv> Just check out the 'man dd' command and the link to the documentation I sent you. You'll be all set. GL.
[23:12] <Tex_Nick> is there a list of #ubuntu chanOps ?
[23:12] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical you need to review the kernel log but it may be easier to pick an older kernal and boot from that.
[23:12] <ejv> ikonia is lurking Tex_Nick
[23:12] <ankk> hi
[23:13] <ankk> how can i reset all network settings
[23:13] <ankk> ubuntu doesnt see my ethernet and wireless devices
[23:13] <ankk> i can see them on lspci list
[23:13] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: how do i do that? i see no other options.
[23:13] <ejv> !enter | ankk
[23:13] <ankk> but i cant up them
[23:13] <ankk> do you want my question again?
[23:13] <Guest96410> r u on a virtual machine?
[23:13] <ejv> no, I assure you, we got it ha
[23:14] <ankk> Guest96410 no
[23:14] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: Were you unable to edit the kernel parameters?
[23:15] <FreeRangeRadical> jhutchins_wk: i still don't know what you mean by that. your description of what i would get was completely different than what I actually got.
[23:15] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical do you get the grub boot menu?
[23:15] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: um...sure?
[23:16] <ejv> Ubuntu's shipped kernel carries support for a myriad of ethernet adapters ankk, try telling us a little more like what is the adapter, what module it is using (lspci -k), and any message of networking announcements in dmesg, do that all via a pastebin service. Good luck.
[23:16] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: i pressed f12 when the machine was starting, got a boot menu where i could choose the drive to boot from, if that's the grub.
[23:16] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: No, that's the BIOS boot menu.
[23:17] <ankk> ejv all of my adapters were working a few hours ago
[23:17] <FreeRangeRadical> jhutchins_wk: then i guess i'm not getting past that
[23:17] <ankk> after update something... first i lost wireless connection and then ethernet connection
[23:17] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: Nothing about grub loading?
[23:17] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical during the boot hold down the right shift, if that doesn't work try Esc
[23:17] <wad> So I use my Gnome Terminal a TON. I've often got a dozen or so tabs open, logged into various machines, in various directories, running various programs, tailing various logs. The problem with my current version is that the currently active tab is too close in color to the inactive ones.
[23:18] <FreeRangeRadical> Jhutchins_wk: i have no idea what the grub is, so no.
[23:18] <wad> Looking around, I don't see an easy fix. Ideas? Ideally, it would be bright red or something like that.
[23:18] <jhutchins_wk> !grub
[23:18] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: should i stop the 12.10 download then? i'm running 11.10 from CD to be able to chat on here.
[23:19] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical Sorry carry on, when its done try that from the broken system.
[23:19] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: GRand Unified Bootloader.  Responsible for loading the init software.
[23:19] <Jeruvy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[23:20] <ejv> ankk: if you believe something broke during the update, restart your system and choose the previous kernel version that's available to you; observe, test, etc.
[23:21] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: yes, i've gotten that screen. i've tried all 4 listed options, it will start ubuntu, then stop and take me to a black screen with <initramfs>.
[23:21] <ankk> on this age we already need lspci to setup network on linux... it is really bad
[23:22] <jwpierce3> trying out the latest live iso. Anyone installed ubuntu on zfs?
[23:22] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical then you need to review the kernel log and see whats broken.  From the live cd you should be able to review it off the broken install.    Its found in /var/log
[23:22] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: i have a 12.10 image on SD. but when i've tried to get it to load from the bios boot manager, it won't start. any idea?
[23:23] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: it will say "broken" or how will i know what's wrong?
[23:23] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical, you may need to copy and paste to pastebin, and link it here so we can review it with you.
[23:24] <ankk> My wireless adapter uses " Dell Wirelesss 1397 WLAN Mini
[23:24] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: ok, i've got the /var/log file open. which file do you want me to copy/paste?
[23:24] <Jeruvy> kernel.log I think its called.
[23:24] <ankk> My wireless adapter uses " Dell Wirelesss 1397 WLAN Mini-Card " for Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[23:25] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical or kern.log
[23:25] <ankk> also Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E Express uses Dell Device 0434
[23:25] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: got it, but it's a big boy. what to show you?
[23:25] <ankk> ejv what should i check now
[23:26] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical usually the last bit with errors.
[23:26] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: i copied a page full or so. paste it in here?
[23:27] <Jeruvy> !paste
[23:27] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical ^^ there
[23:27] <FreeRangeRadical> ubottu: gotcha
[23:27] <FreeRangeRadical> k
[23:27] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: pasted
[23:28] <FreeRangeRadical> ubotto: thanks!! :)
[23:28] <k-man> when i try and do an aptitude upgrade, or apt-get install -f   i get this error:  http://pastie.org/6644411
[23:28] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical link?
[23:29] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5632746/
[23:30] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical off the top of my head I'd say you have some hard disk problems.  Do you have another disk you can use?
[23:30] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: another disk? what kind of disk are we talking about?
[23:30] <Jeruvy> ubuntu kernel: [  217.160933] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 151360360  <--that looks bad
[23:31] <Jeruvy> HDD FreeRangeRadical
[23:31] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: Bad news there.
[23:31] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: are you asking if i have another hard drive? if so, no.
[23:31] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: You do not have a hard drive, period.
[23:31] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: You have something that used to be a hard drive.
[23:32] <FreeRangeRadical> jhutchins_wk: this has happened before when the kernel was updated.
[23:32] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: Then it's probably been failing for a while.
[23:32] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: You can check the cables and try again, but the errors indicate hardware failure.
[23:32] <FreeRangeRadical> hmmmmm
[23:33] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical that I agree with jhutchins_wk with.  Something seriously wrong with that disk.
[23:33] <jhutchins_wk> FreeRangeRadical: Sorry, but nosmoke.exe doesn't run on Linux.
[23:34] <jhutchins_wk> (Which is an oldschool joke about you can't fix hardware with software.)
[23:34] <jaake> http://ubottu.com/y/rn
[23:34] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: if that was so, would 11.10 be able to see that there's also 12.10 on this machine? because when i started to install 11.10 to see if there was a way to go directly to 12.10, it asked how i wanted to partition the drive.
[23:35] <Jeruvy> FreeRangeRadical I wouldn't trust that drive, it may behave to some extent, but its just a disaster waiting to happen.
[23:36] <FreeRangeRadical> Jeruvy: noted. i'm going to do it the long way and install 11.10 and upgrade. that's what i had to do last time after a couple hours in here, same as today. thanks, though!
[23:37] <k-man> can i force the uninstall of a partially configured package
[23:38] <tadpole> sudo apt-get purge whatever
[23:40] <raj> is there a package in apt that will allow me to split an mpeg video?
[23:40] <madam> Did an update of 12.10 security patches and fixes... refuses to reboot. Hangs at the "starting timidity++ Alsa midi emulation" part.
[23:40] <madam> Recovery menu: (file system state: read only) - so how do I get around the hang?
[23:40] <madam>  Can I edit out the problem code and just bypass it?
[23:40] <madam> If so how?
[23:40] <madam> Any ideas on the subject?
[23:40] <FloodBot1> madam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <k-man> thanks tadpole
[23:41] <tadpole> No problem.
[23:42] <k-man> when i try and reinstall extlinux, i get this error:   P: Installing debian theme...cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/syslinux/themes/debian-squeeze/extlinux/memtest.bin': No such file or directory
[23:42] <k-man> seems a bit odd
[23:45] <madam> Did an update of 12.10 security patches and fixes... refuses to reboot. Hangs at the "starting timidity++ Alsa midi emulation" part.
[23:45] <madam> Recovery menu: (file system state: read only) - so how do I get around the hang?
[23:45] <madam>  Can I edit out the problem code and just bypass it?
[23:46] <k-man> ah, fixed it, I needed to install memtest86+
[23:46] <lousygarua> madam, you can try using a live USB
[23:46] <lousygarua> madam, fix/edit files
[23:47] <astropirate> hello all
[23:47] <countley> yo yo
[23:47] <astropirate> Whats the best laptop I can get that runs ubuntu perfectly
[23:47] <astropirate> i want the best money can buy :D its being paid for
[23:47] <ankk> hi
[23:47] <countley> sony
[23:47] <ankk> ubuntu opens Home window on every boot automaticly
[23:47] <ankk> how can i stop that?
[23:48] <lagreca> Hi, folks! How can I export or backup highlights and annotations that I've made in my ebooks using Adobe Digital Editions 2? thanks.
[23:48] <madam> Yeah.....  I think if I can edit out the bit on the "starting Timidity", the rest of the boot sequence SHOULD go ok.
[23:49] <madam> The best laptop? How muchmoney have you got? and How much are you prepared to waste, above and beyond your actual needs?
[23:49] <madam> I use an ACER D270 netbook, because it is small, light and has enough features, and is very portable.
[23:50] <madam> And it only costs $240Au
[23:51] <madam> It also only uses 15W flat out, which is good when using solar power, instead of a big computer that uses 160+ watts, just to do internet stuff
[23:51] <edu> I'm trying to use mutt+PGP, but if my receiver doesn't have a public key, how can I disable encriptation? mutt is asking me her public key in my key-list but i don't have it (and mi receiver dooesn't created one).
[23:54] <tonyhughes> madam, low power is great. My dual core desktop use 35watts at the wall. Not quite as good as the netbook, but decent CPU/RAM and storage, plus all my peripherals connected.
[23:55] <ankk> ubuntu opens Home window on every boot automaticly
[23:55] <ankk> how can i stop that?
[23:56] <holstein> ankk: home window?
[23:58] <Guest37873> hii quick question. who can i know what video driver i am running?
[23:58] <Guest37873> inxi -Gx dont work in ubuntu :/
[23:58] <holstein> Guest37873: you can... run lspci for your hardware
[23:59] <Guest37873> i know my graphic card model. i wanna know the version for my driver
[23:59] <holstein> Guest37873: lspci -vv or lspci  -mm | grep VGA
[23:59] <Arkthik> test
[23:59] <Ben64> Guest37873: lshw -C VIDEO | grep driver