| Craig | is libproxy necessary for kde-full to be installed over ubuntu server | 00:41 |
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| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1094360] qt4 apps such as vlc: QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme unless libgnom... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1094360 (by Doug McMahon) | 01:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I'll check upstream | 01:37 |
| ScottK | Riddell: You probably saw this already, but if you didn't I thought you'd be interested to know your English imperialists have at least got something right. http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240179643/Government-mandates-preference-for-open-source | 03:52 |
| soee | good morning | 06:54 |
| soee | is there libctemplate0 package for raring ? | 07:10 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1157753] knotify4 crashed with SIGSEGV in _int_malloc() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1157753 (by Marcos K) | 07:12 |
| shadeslayer | !find libctemplate0 | 07:25 |
| shadeslayer | !find libctemplate0 raring | 07:25 |
| ubottu | Package/file libctemplate0 does not exist in quantal | 07:26 |
| shadeslayer | I always forget raring at the end :/ | 07:26 |
| ubottu | Package/file libctemplate0 does not exist in raring | 07:26 |
| shadeslayer | soee: nope | 07:26 |
| soee | yeah i downloaded it manually | 07:26 |
| soee | but mysql workbench is broken anyway on 13.04 :< | 07:27 |
| shadeslayer | yeah that thing is broken as far as 11.10 IIRC | 07:28 |
| soee | it worked fine on 12.10 :/ | 07:29 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 07:29 |
| shadeslayer | guess someone fixed it then | 07:29 |
| tazz | Riddell, +1 to "please don't ever stop working on/for Kubuntu." | 08:03 |
| valorie | yes! | 08:04 |
| valorie | that was awesome | 08:04 |
| agateau | soee: looking for a homerun developer? | 08:04 |
| soee | hi, agateau | 08:05 |
| soee | agateau, is it possible to sort manually items in favourites section ? | 08:05 |
| agateau | soee: right now you have to edit the configuration file by hand :( | 08:05 |
| agateau | soee: that's one of the most wanted feature | 08:06 |
| soee | agateau, yes thats what im missing most :) | 08:06 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: Riddell do either of you know anything about LP's derived distro feature? | 08:34 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1158181] Kubuntu uses two virtual desktops as a default @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1158181 (by Martin Gräßlin) | 09:07 |
| jussi | yay | 09:10 |
| jussi | I just managed to crash krunner... | 09:11 |
| jussi | bug here if anyone is interested: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317116 | 09:19 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 317116 in general "Krunner crashed after changing settings" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 09:19 |
| Tm_T | was there a way to have ubuntu's crashandler disabled with one app? | 09:19 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 09:22 |
| shadeslayer | whoopsie | 09:22 |
| shadeslayer | so purge whoopsie and voila, no crash reporting | 09:23 |
| shadeslayer | oh god, so sleepy post lunch | 09:23 |
| jussi | Tm_T: sudo nano /etc/default/apport | 09:24 |
| jussi | you can turn it off there | 09:25 |
| jussi | Tm_T: although I read you as saying you just want it off for 1 app | 09:25 |
| jussi | but on for the rest? | 09:25 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: power nap then coffee. works a charm | 09:30 |
| shadeslayer | yeah that's what I'm thinking | 09:30 |
| Tm_T | jussi: yes | 09:31 |
| Tm_T | Konqueror is crashing and apport fails to do anything | 09:31 |
| shadeslayer | !find resource/facebookresource.h raring | 09:34 |
| ubottu | Package/file resource/facebookresource.h does not exist in raring | 09:34 |
| soee | tanglu will use KDE ? | 09:50 |
| shadeslayer | soee: since it's started by a KDE Contributor, yes | 09:52 |
| soee | shadeslayer, Jayson Rowe ? | 09:52 |
| shadeslayer | no, Matthias Klumpp | 09:54 |
| soee | shadeslayer, what is his nickname on irc ? | 09:54 |
| shadeslayer | ximion | 09:54 |
| soee | ok thank you :) good to kniw | 09:54 |
| shadeslayer | np :) | 09:54 |
| yofel_ | hm, our live session still has 2 virtual desktops | 09:58 |
| yofel_ | because our kubuntu-settings kwinrc still isn't used.. | 09:59 |
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| shadeslayer | :| | 10:04 |
| shadeslayer | anyone using dput-ng ? | 10:05 |
| mgraesslin | yofel: also the installed image | 10:05 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: what's the -ng part? | 10:06 |
| shadeslayer | next generation | 10:06 |
| yofel | mgraesslin: meh, feared as much | 10:06 |
| shadeslayer | like star trek :p | 10:06 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: yeah... but what's -ng about it.... | 10:06 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 10:06 |
| mgraesslin | yofel: I reported a bug for it | 10:06 |
| shadeslayer | well, I don't know about dput, but with -ng you can write your own pre upload and post upload hooks | 10:06 |
| * mgraesslin installed Kubuntu raring yesterday on a notebook | 10:06 | |
| shadeslayer | I'm thinking of writing one right now for work stuff | 10:07 |
| * mgraesslin was very close to writing a rant on how bad Ubuntu (not Kubuntu) is | 10:07 | |
| yofel | mgraesslin: already commented on it - but I fear that someone will have to take the whole config generation process apart to find out what's wrong :/ | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | I can have a look at that | 10:07 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: ++ | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | seeing how I spent so much time working with configs over the last 6 months | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | mgraesslin: bug number plz | 10:09 |
| mgraesslin | 1158181 | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | thx | 10:10 |
| mgraesslin | I had huge issues to report the bug - just to say | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | hah | 10:10 |
| mgraesslin | it seems like Launchpad doesn't want you to report bugs | 10:11 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1083060] packages kde-workspace-bin 4.9.80-0ubuntu5 and kde-window-manager-common 4.9.80-0ubuntu5 c... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1083060 (by zigi) | 10:11 |
| yofel | mgraesslin: it's more ubuntu not wanting you to *start* on launchpad with the reporting | 10:12 |
| mgraesslin | for an upstream that's annoying | 10:12 |
| mgraesslin | I tend to report bugs to distro trackers without running the distribution | 10:12 |
| mgraesslin | but to be honest: reporting bugs to debian is even more annoying | 10:14 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 10:18 |
| shadeslayer | er wait | 10:21 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 10:24 |
| shadeslayer | hi lordievader | 10:25 |
| lordievader | Hey shadeslayer, how are you? | 10:26 |
| shadeslayer | sleepy | 10:28 |
| yofel | join the club | 10:28 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | ohmy | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | wow | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: I think dput-ng can tweet about your uploads | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | this hook screams social media so loud my ears hurt | 10:38 |
| yofel | ... | 10:39 |
| shadeslayer | I need something that is trigerred when I upload to a PPA | 10:40 |
| shadeslayer | and a specific PPA at that | 10:41 |
| jr | konversation can do colours | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | hey jr | 11:59 |
| jr | ᐇ | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | weirdness | 12:00 |
| agateau | lordievader: ping | 12:10 |
| lordievader | agateau: pong | 12:11 |
| agateau | lordievader: hi, I was trying to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1154535 | 12:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1154535 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Back and Continue buttons present in Oem-config" [Undecided,New] | 12:11 |
| agateau | but the buttons go away for me. Do you still have the problem? | 12:11 |
| lordievader | agateau: I'll have to download a daily and test it, is it allright that I get back to you about this later? | 12:12 |
| agateau | lordievader: sure, no problem | 12:13 |
| shadeslayer | jr: will we be able to get 4.10.2 into raring before the release? | 12:15 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: should work out looking at the schedule | 12:16 |
| yofel | after beta though | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | well then | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | vHanda: ^ no rush, release a new soprano with 4.10.2 | 12:17 |
| yofel | that is a bugfix soprano... right? | 12:17 |
| vHanda | yes | 12:17 |
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| Riddell | shadeslayer: yeah why wouldn't we? | 12:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: seemed like a tight fit | 12:29 |
| txwikinger | congrats to raring.. I really love it | 12:29 |
| txwikinger | No problems so far and I am using it for a week now | 12:30 |
| txwikinger | lots of issus I had for 2-3 releases are fixed | 12:32 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: yay | 12:38 |
| txwikinger | Good work Riddell! | 12:40 |
| BluesKaj | G'Day all | 12:42 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I know it exists. It's what's used to make Debian -> Ubuntu syncs. | 12:52 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 12:52 |
| yofel | interesting | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | shoot, I had to build qtwebkit today | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | with that webkit+http patch :/ | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^ sorry, forgot about it | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | maybe tomorrow | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | if I don't go mad from trying to build gstreamer | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | since VLC is my video player I've been using vlc backend in phonon with good results , especially on videos with AC-3 DD soundtracks | 12:57 |
| BluesKaj | and DTS as well | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | that's because pgst has been neglected | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | I also found out this morning that YUV probably doesn't work on the current release | 12:59 |
| BluesKaj | pgst? shadeslayer | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | phonon gstreamer | 12:59 |
| shadeslayer | and then I found this a couple of minutes ago https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=696282 | 13:00 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 696282 in gst-plugins-base "typefinder missing y4mversion field" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | so yuv4mpeg is broken on gstreamer 1.0 | 13:00 |
| BluesKaj | gstreamer is ok for avi files that are 2ch stereo | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | well, seeing how gst is the default backend on Kubuntu I'm trying to improve it | 13:01 |
| shadeslayer | hopefully it'll be as good as the vlc backend | 13:01 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, right, keep up the good work | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | :) | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 13:11 |
| lordievader | agateau: Bug 1154535 is still present for me, daily i386 Raring. | 13:19 |
| ubottu | bug 1154535 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Back and Continue buttons present in Oem-config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154535 | 13:19 |
| Riddell | agateau: how are you testing it? | 13:20 |
| Riddell | I seem to remember testing oem-config in its native environment is faffy | 13:20 |
| agateau | Riddell: running ubiquity with UBIQUITY_OEM_USER_CONFIG=1 ubiquity -d kde_ui | 13:21 |
| agateau | lordievader: just to avoid any confusion: the back/continue buttons are visible during the slideshow, right? | 13:21 |
| lordievader | agateau: No, during the oem-config. Last stage of the oem-install, where the 'user' startup the system for the first time <- that wizard. | 13:22 |
| agateau | lordievader: oooh | 13:24 |
| lordievader | agateau: Ubiquity calls it oem-config ("oem-config will be run on the next start-up") | 13:25 |
| agateau | lordievader: bare with me as I know next to nothing about the oem install. Is this wizard provided by ubiquity as well? | 13:25 |
| agateau | is it a different binary? | 13:25 |
| Riddell | agateau: yes it's part of ubiquity | 13:25 |
| Riddell | it runs the language and user setup pages | 13:25 |
| lordievader | agateau: Your guess is a good as mine. | 13:25 |
| agateau | lordievader: :) | 13:26 |
| lordievader | And probably better ;) | 13:26 |
| Riddell | so when you buy a computer it's the first thing you see | 13:26 |
| agateau | I get it | 13:26 |
| agateau | Riddell: any simple way to test it? | 13:26 |
| lordievader | That is the idea. agateau If you get the change could you take a look at the design of it too? Now it is just lots of gray, would be nice to have the slideshow there too :) | 13:27 |
| agateau | lordievader: if I ever get to know how to run it, I can look at it :) | 13:27 |
| * Riddell installs oem-config to see what happens when run locally | 13:28 | |
| agateau | Riddell: you probably want oem-config-kde | 13:28 |
| agateau | do we have vendors using it? | 13:29 |
| shadeslayer | probably | 13:30 |
| Riddell | system 78 at least | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | 78 ... hahaha | 13:30 |
| Riddell | hmm, it runs locally but I'm feart to go past the last stage, who knows what it could break | 13:31 |
| Riddell | oh sod it | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | use a vm | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell lives on the edge :p | 13:31 |
| Riddell | agateau: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/tmp/oem-config.png | 13:31 |
| Riddell | crazy times | 13:32 |
| lordievader | ^ that's the one | 13:32 |
| agateau | lordievader: hu ok, it may need some love :) | 13:32 |
| lordievader | agateau: :) | 13:32 |
| agateau | just found out the binary is named oem-config-prepare | 13:33 |
| Riddell | agateau: it's just "oem-config" | 13:33 |
| Riddell | agateau: oem-config-prepare is what gets run to set it up for running "oem-config" on next boot | 13:33 |
| genii-around | Does lightdm use tty1? When login screen is up I can only get tty2-6, after login tty1 is available | 13:34 |
| agateau | Riddell: oh ok | 13:34 |
| Riddell | so it's ubiquity install -> reboot -> set up computer and run oem-config-prepare -> reboot -> sell laptop -> oem-config runs on first boot | 13:35 |
| * xnox likes the "sell laptop" step. | 13:36 | |
| agateau | Riddell: ok | 13:36 |
| agateau | Riddell: I think this would make a good addition to doc/README | 13:37 |
| agateau | oh, oem-config is a symlink to ubiquity | 13:39 |
| Riddell | agateau: yep | 13:41 |
| * genii-around kicks his computer | 13:41 | |
| Riddell | if I install ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu it successfully shows it | 13:42 |
| Riddell | so I think the issue is just that gets uninstalled before oem-config gets run | 13:42 |
| agateau | Riddell: ok, so creating a symlink for it, it should work | 13:42 |
| agateau | Riddell: which would not be a regression I introduced (for a change :)) | 13:42 |
| agateau | Riddell: would be interesting to look at how Ubuntu handle this package issue | 13:44 |
| Riddell | oh there's a oem-config-slideshow-ubuntu | 13:48 |
| Riddell | which is installed by ubiquity/finish-install.d/01oem-config-udeb | 13:51 |
| Riddell | new in quantal | 13:52 |
| Riddell | hmm | 13:52 |
| agateau | is it a different slideshow? | 13:52 |
| Riddell | dunno, different package, not sure what's different about contents | 13:52 |
| Riddell | shouldn't be too hard to mirror | 13:52 |
| * Riddell adds to the days todo list | 13:52 | |
| agateau | btw, did you run oem-config to the end? | 13:53 |
| Riddell | agateau: dunno it just disappeared from my screen | 13:53 |
| xnox | bug 984736 ? | 13:53 |
| ubottu | bug 984736 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config not installed after initial installation in OEM mode" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984736 | 13:53 |
| Riddell | and I wasn't paying attention | 13:53 |
| agateau | so it did not wreck your computer? | 13:53 |
| xnox | * Always install oem-config-slideshow-ubuntu in OEM mode, also for | 13:53 |
| xnox | alternate installs (LP: #984736) | 13:53 |
| Riddell | agateau: well I've not rebooted or logged out yet :) | 13:54 |
| agateau | xnox: looks like it | 13:54 |
| Riddell | agateau: but seems fairly safe | 13:54 |
| Riddell | agateau: it'll make a new user | 13:54 |
| * agateau press "Continue" | 13:54 | |
| agateau | Mmm, since I have the slideshow package installed, I get the slideshow | 13:55 |
| agateau | and the navigation buttons are hidden, I guess lordievader bug is actually caused by the slideshow not loading, which prevents the code from reaching the point where it hides the buttons | 13:56 |
| * agateau checks the code to verify he does not speak nonsense | 13:56 | |
| Riddell | agateau: oh aye they do disappear | 13:56 |
| agateau | I noticed two other problems though | 13:57 |
| agateau | 1. the button to cancel downloads is missing an icon | 13:57 |
| lordievader | agateau: Did you fix it? Nice :) | 13:57 |
| agateau | 2. the button to cancel downloads actually does nothing | 13:57 |
| Riddell | lordievader: we know what needs to be done to fix it | 13:58 |
| agateau | lordievader: I did not really fix it, but getting the slideshow installed should take care of both the ugly content and the buttons not hiding | 13:58 |
| lordievader | Oh wel that is great ;) | 13:58 |
| agateau | Riddell: so does it mean it was broken in quantal as well? | 13:59 |
| Riddell | agateau: dunno, we did test it and you'd think it would be the sort of thing you'd notice but it should be broken according to what we've found | 14:02 |
| Riddell | but nobody noticed it as broken including me | 14:03 |
| agateau | ok | 14:03 |
| agateau | I just reverted ubiquity to before I started working on it: looks like the cancel button near the progress bar was never plugged to anything | 14:04 |
| agateau | I wonder if we should fix it or just remove the button | 14:04 |
| agateau | Riddell: what do you think? | 14:04 |
| xnox | agateau: it should be plugged in base.py as ubiquity backend activates it. | 14:05 |
| agateau | xnox: ah, was about to ask you how hard it was to implement :) | 14:05 |
| BluesKaj | well, ubiquity on the Raring live cd has been broken for my system since Jan . | 14:05 |
| xnox | (e.g. it is expected to be available, it's only activated at certain points of installation) | 14:05 |
| agateau | xnox: yes, it shows and hides correctly already, just doesn't do anything | 14:06 |
| * agateau looks for bug report about this | 14:06 | |
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