[00:19] I just ran into an issue earlier [00:20] when recording audio/video with both my webcam/mic and hd-pvr it was fine before. Now when recording simultanously the audio is out of sync. This wasn't an issue in 12.10. Any suggestions? [00:26] What I do is I record from my webcam/mic simultaneously with my hd-pvr. in 12.10 it recorded perfectly. In 13.04 its out of sync in kdenlive. [00:26] but then again guvcview is different now too. [00:32] I figured out why I had no workspaces... [00:32] it's disabled by default in 13.04 [00:45] google talk plugin for empathy is broken.... is that a fair statement? [04:34] hi, I can't seem to edit the cups configuration from the cups webpage. It doesn't authenticate my name or pw [06:09] What does one have to do to get help debugging a bug? [06:09] Or get more attention for it on Launchpad? [06:10] I feel like "no one with btrfs drives can install 13.04" is kind of an issue worth addressing. [06:43] geomyidae, linking to the bug rather than talking about it in abstract sure wouldn't hurt. [06:48] I have before, it just gets ignored. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1120938 [06:48] Launchpad bug 1120938 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity hangs after the initial summary screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] [06:59] geomyidae: you reported the bug on Feb 10, have you tried with a recent daily iso ? [06:59] geomyidae, also, try installing without updates selected. [06:59] yup [06:59] that often causes issues [06:59] i found if i selected updates, it froze at that point. it was late feb when i did that. [07:00] elky: I've done so. [07:00] IdleOne: yes, todays, as well as Beta 1. [07:00] IdleOne: I try every few days. It also affects kubuntu. I can notate that on the bug. [07:00] you should note that, yes. Not sure what else to suggest. [07:01] Logging in to do so. [07:06] Are there any performance improvements planned for Ubuntu 13.04? [07:07] snowyrooftops, i woudl imagine yes. I have no idea what. [07:08] i think there is a unity-tweak-tool [07:08] I remember seeing that somewhere [07:08] elky: Getting the 3D emulation into Ubuntu 12.10 had me wondering if it would run on my old laptop [07:08] IdleOne: Is that going to be a part of 13.04? [07:08] !info unity-tweak-tool [07:08] unity-tweak-tool (source: unity-tweak-tool): configuration manager for Unity desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.3 (raring), package size 313 kB, installed size 1758 kB [07:08] apparently so [07:08] snowyrooftops, you could download the beta and try it in a livecd/liveusb [07:09] elky: Will do. BTW, does it work well on a VM? Ubuntu 12.10 wouldn't play nicely with VirtualBox - it was unusably slow. [07:09] i haven't tried [07:13] geomyidae, you could also try offering (without the passive aggressive language) to test potential fixes in #ubuntu-devel [07:16] elky: I hope you're referring to my language in IRC, but okay. [07:16] I'd really be happy if someone could even point me in the right direction, or tell me what I should be running through GDB, etc [07:17] hi, anyone here using mysql workbench and can confirm it has problems on 13.04 ? [07:17] soee: what kind of problem? [07:18] geomyidae, i'm talking about the tone in your initial messages here today [07:18] soee: Is MySQL Workbench built in Java? I couldn't run NetBeans very well over OpenJDK either. [07:19] geomyidae, after upgradeto 13.04 (from 12.10) i can't edut any columns using its interface some strange behaviour, i thought installing latest version 5.2.47 might help but after some problems whith dependencies when i installed it the same thisng happens [07:19] soee: Oh, wait. I looked it up - it's in C++ or C#. [07:19] snowyrooftops, no not java, Netbeans works fine for me [07:20] it's the first time i've gotten a reply after asking about it here half a dozen times and posting about it several times in the forum. I do apologize for my tone, but not my intention. The partitioner has a history of being buggy and stalling on anything nonstandard, some additional debugging mechanics in it is something I'd be happy to contribute but no one seems interested. [07:21] geomyidae: If there's something that involves coding, I'd love to help, but I'm not sure of where/how to contribute. [07:21] soee: I'll fire up a DB and give it a shot and see if I can confirm for you. [07:22] geomyidae, ok thank you [07:23] snowyrooftops: here is some info http://developer.ubuntu.com/ [07:24] soee: tons of stuff appears to be broken to be honest [07:24] mine differs fairly significantly from screenshots I'm seeing online and I can't even add columns to a model. [07:25] I don't use this though, so I can't testify to how it worked in 12.10. [07:25] geomyidae, it worked on 12.10 i was using it a lot [07:25] looks broken to me then [07:25] geomyidae, you can run app but you cant do to many things right? [07:26] yes [07:26] and like I said, buttons that appear in screenshots for hte app are decidedly missing from what I'm seeing. [08:11] hi. is there an minimal install for raring 13.04 similar to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [08:11] I think there's a core iso [08:12] From that you can add on whatever stuff you want [08:13] kris-away: that would be ideal. I will search for it unless someone knows a link. [08:18] yes. I cannot find a minimal or core iso for ringtail 13.04. If anyone knows a link or more details to help me search... i would appreciate. [08:18] Hmm, I forgot and now I'm interested too... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/current/ is jsut the files... I swear I've seen a headless iso... hmm, must have been the server minimal [08:19] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/ has a headless install options if I remember [08:19] kris-away: ur link is helpful. thx [08:20] I'm using 13.04 ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu, I only use LTS for server for obvious reasons. [08:34] i have a strange occurrence where the terminal icon in the unity "left icon menu" (sry i forget the name)... the icon for a terminal appears to use a different icon. [08:34] the icon matches an application.desktop icon file i have on the Desktop. [08:34] is the normal behaviour? (if u get my explanation) [08:36] "left menu" might be "launcher"? [08:39] I put a custom desktop icon with the line: "Exec=gnome-terminal -x sudo /usr/sbin/clone.pl" and "Icon=un-reboot" [08:39] and now when I use CTRL-ALT-t to bring up a standard terminal... the "un-reboot" icon appears in the launcher. [08:39] as if my desktop icon script has changed the default icon for a standard terminal. [08:42] ok... well Im doing a fresh install to test if this is normal using the example.desktop file supplied to make sure its not something im doing. [08:49] i verified the above is consistent. Moving my test.desktop file in and out of ~/Desktop changes the default icon in the launcher for the gnome-terminal. [08:50] does anyone have an opinion whether or not this a feature... it just seems wrong to me that I cannot have a desktop icon that calls a terminal without forcing all terminals to use the same icon. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:17] Anyone notice how... unity isn't that slow on low-fps things, but you frame-cap way earlier [12:18] My 30fps thing in xfce with compo off gets 28 in unity, 300fps thing gets 150. === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [12:42] G'Day all [13:24] So I'm tracking 13.04 and I'm using a Radeon 7750 - and I've been having a pretty crappy experience with Ubuntu (12.04, 12.10 and 13.04) and this card - previously Unity wouldn't let me click on things like titlebars until I did a relogin, or switched to the terminal and back. Now in a recent update (using the stable AMD Radeon driver and the beta7 driver) the Unity UI doesn't even appear on the screen on login. What do I d [13:24] o please? [13:28] thehumanelement: does unity work for u when running the live distro say off usb? [13:29] do you mean so when I'm using the Free drivers? [13:30] o right. im not sure i can help. I dont know the card. Either it is ur computer or the driver is no good for that card. I would search online to see if ur issues are common with others using ubuntu and that card. [13:31] so it's not a problem affecting everywith with a recent Radeon? [13:31] everyone with* [13:31] i was thinking that if it worked with ubuntu live you could verify wether it was a configuration issue or some change you made on your system. [13:32] okay, but I haven't made any changes [13:32] i cant answer whether or not it effects many with radeon 7750. Im only suggesting that a search for the same issues through google might reveal if that card is just no good on linux/ubuntu. [13:32] do you want me to try the nightly build of raring live? [13:33] It worked fine about three months ago [13:33] than randomly Ubuntu wouldn't let me click on things in the menu [13:33] well maybe there is an issue with the hardware. Not sure i can tell from here. [13:33] I mean in the titlebars [13:33] I've tried Googling for that but no joy [13:33] i hate to be obvious... but have you tried a different mouse? [13:34] the mouse clicks fine *in* Windows [13:34] sorry I mean *in* windows [13:34] as in on the actual window [13:34] just not on the titlebars and stuff [13:34] so I have to relogin every damn time [13:34] ok. well the fact that it works under windows is a good indicator ur hardware is ok. [13:34] then it gos away [13:34] goes* [13:34] sorry, I didn't mean Windows the OS [13:34] but everything's working fine in Windows 8, and has been for ages [13:34] it doesnt seem to me that a driver would cause such specific issues. I think there is some software issue. [13:35] so you want me to download the raring nightly and boot off that off USB? [13:35] or 12.10? [13:35] or is there now proper raring RCs, maybe I should look... [13:35] i would go with a live usb. and 12.10 or 12.04... because these are more stable options to help you determine the issue. [13:36] okay, well I actually a couple of weeks ago downgraded to 12.04 LTS because that is supposed to work [13:36] and same issue [13:36] the nightly build is more likely to be unstable... unless you are wanting to find issues and report them. [13:36] but my current issue is that Unity doesn't appear *at* *all* [13:36] im not sure what "Unity doesn't appear *at* *all*" means. [13:37] do you just see a background and a mouse pointer and no dash or launcher... like no menus around the top and left border? [13:38] yeah [13:39] so I am using GNOME in 2D [13:39] or GNOME 2 or something [13:39] well gnome is not unity. so it is difficult for me to understand. [13:40] i dont use gnome although i believe it is great. someone else may be able to advise u on this. I am not familiar with how gnome should or should not appear. [13:40] I am using it INSTEAD [13:40] temporarily [13:40] I don't want to have to do that [13:41] I just want to use normal Ubuntu which I believe comes with Unity [13:41] your correct. unity is the default. [13:41] so the above still stands just see a background and a mouse pointer and no dash or launcher... like no menus around the top and left border [13:42] gnome will look different. i dont use it so i cannot provide advice. but if unity is providing no menus... this sounds like something is wrong with your software installation. [13:43] did you say this was a new installation or an upgrade? [13:43] it is now a new installation [13:43] but before it was un upgrade [13:43] an* upgrade [13:43] I was using 12.04 LTS and keeping it up to date [13:43] then I upgraded to 12.10 as it was time [13:44] then sometime after that, I can't remember when, the first problem (no clicking on menus or titlebars most of the time without relogin) started [13:44] so I upgraded to 13.04 [13:44] still had the problem [13:44] so I reinstalled 12.04 [13:45] same problem [13:45] reinstalled 12.10, same problem [13:45] reinstalled 13.04, same problem, then a couple of days ago (which is expected because 13.04 is under active development) the Unity totally disappeared [13:46] I am downloading isos of 12.10 and the 13.04 daily to try on USB, but I expect they will use the Free driver which is almost unusably slow [13:46] so maybe they will work - but I'm not sure that solves the problem [13:46] so... it worked 12.04. Then it started failing... and no amount of software changes... including a complete reinstall fixed it? [13:47] my guess is there is some hardware issue. Because you fully went back to the working installation and now it doesnt work even though it used to. [13:47] well Ubuntu has random patches and fixes released every other day so I guess one of those broke it [13:47] or maybe a driver or X or Unity fix or patch introduced a regression [13:48] which was introduced in 12.04 as well, you get me? [13:48] yeah i dont know for sure. Maybe it is the graphics drive and some upgrade changed in a way that doesnt work for you. I just dont know. [13:48] well that's two of us [13:49] But I would stick with the crappy default driver for a bit first... because if you see no issues, then you know its prob the driver. [13:49] well right now I'm downloading 12.10 and current daily to try on USB [13:49] but if you see issues with default driver... then you know it could be your hardware failing in some way. [13:49] do you know if the will definitely use the default driver? [13:49] thing is [13:50] my computer is rock stable with no issues in Windows 8 + StarCraft II using even the beta AMD driver [13:50] never had any kind of problems with any hardware or software with Windows and the nonfree Radeon driver [13:51] maybe I tried the default driver actually - and had the same problem [13:51] well, we'll find out soon... [13:51] ooh, I have to relogin with problem #1 in GNOME 2 as well [13:52] so that problem is definitely still here (can't click on titlebars etc) [13:52] im unsure which driver comes by default. Its a question of whether the radeon driver is open sources or not. i guess. [13:52] I think the driver that is literally referred to as "radeon" is Free [13:52] and the one that is called "fglrx" is proprietary [13:53] right but free doesnt mean open source. if you have to go to the settings to activate it... then its not installed by default. [13:53] I would guess that the Live CD experience uses the Free version [13:53] yeah, I know that part - I will check there when I have logged in [13:53] problem is, I can't patch and reboot with Live [14:06] Creating a startup disk onto an 8GB drive of 12.10... [14:37] be right back [14:55] Hi there [14:55] I have problems with Centrino 2230 in Ubuntu 12.10 (and 12.04) and want to know if it is fixed in 13.04 perhaps? [14:56] wlan association times out [14:56] one way to find out -- boot a livecd [14:57] I already booted 12.04, 12.10, Debian6, LinuxMint 14 and am downloading Kanotix right now.. just figured, perhaps someone already knows more than I do. [15:20] For some reason, I can get skype installed in 13.04 from the software center, but it won't launch. [15:22] CaptainKnots: If you try to start it from the command-line you might get some informative messages [15:23] genii-around: it seems to segfault for some reason [15:23] that's the only output I get [15:24] CaptainKnots: here, too [15:24] I'll try purging prelink as a workaround [15:25] ah nevermind [15:25] It seems /etc/prelink.conf doesn't exist anymore [15:25] k1l: are you using 64-bit? [15:26] CaptainKnots: yep [15:26] CaptainKnots: Try: ldd skype ( may need full path there) and see if it's trying to use 64bit or 32bit libs [15:27] but there was already a bug report, where i marked myself as affected [15:27] It seems like it may have something to do with my nvidia drivers. i was just looking at the bug report [15:28] genii-around: this is the output I get [15:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5634361/ [15:29] CaptainKnots: So 32bit libs. Is your *buntu install 32 or 64 bit? [15:29] 64 bit [15:29] it works if I use LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 skype [15:32] CaptainKnots: same for me [15:33] I just set it to run in a screen session and wrote a bash script for now [15:39] gnah, i cant find the bug report. [15:45] bug 1131636 and bug 1134030 [15:45] bug 1131636 in skype (Ubuntu) "After QtWebkit update Skype is not launching" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1131636 [15:45] bug 1134030 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-310 (Ubuntu) "Skype crash with proprietary nvidia drivers " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1134030 [15:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327 that is the bug for me [15:47] Launchpad bug 1155327 in skype (Ubuntu) "skype crashed with SIGSEGV in malloc@plt()" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:51] there's probably dozens of dupes of that by now [15:52] I find it odd that nvidia stuff is still going in /usr/lib32 [16:04] Ok, even Kanotix cannot connect [16:05] wtf [18:03] tholu, sometimes you can see good messages about wifi issues in dmesg [18:04] bjsnider, I looked at dmesg, but there was nothing special there. [18:04] does it work in windows, or do you know? [18:04] How can I start NetworkManager with debug output? [18:04] bjsnider, I did not try (yet) [18:04] bjsnider, but I guess it would work. [18:05] If it wouldn't, the wifi would be faulty, but I don't believe this is the case. [18:05] i try xubuntu 13.04 beta1 and a find the window border "shaking and confused" when moving the window. [18:05] i mean how do you know the hardware is still good and whatnot [18:05] i try it on live dvd [18:05] tholu, i think there's a networkmanager irc channel here [18:08] bjsnider, the pc is brandnew and sees the wifi networks, so I guess it is. [18:08] bjsnider, If i find a windows CD around here, I will try [18:08] i thought you said centrino [18:09] bjsnider, yes, why? [18:10] But good point, no CD drive [18:11] i thought by that name you meant the old centrino cpu, which i think pre-dated the shrub administration [18:11] oh. 2003 [18:11] didn't pre-date shrub [18:11] Centrino 2230 [18:11] intel might have thought up a fresh name instead of reusing one [18:12] Would be better, yes [18:12] But iwlwifi should support the chip [18:12] "should" [18:13] if it's brand new, not necessarily [18:13] even though it's intel [18:25] afk [18:35] Okay folks! How to improve graphics performance? I get only 10-20fps on Unigine's Heaven benchmark on my radeon 7970 [18:45] Is there a WUBI installer for 13.04 available? Thx! [19:13] i need help.... just installed 13.04 and i cant get it to boot.... asus uefi bios.. [19:13] can someone help me out here [19:14] when i check bios it only see my usb stick as an uefi partition [19:14] runing live version now to get help [19:16] can anyone help me get a working uefi partition so i can boot into my install pls... [19:17] im kinda desperate here.. :( [19:21] Anyone aware of a WUBI installer for 13.04? [19:23] Ziggy: don't run uefi here so can't really input anything but you might want to checkout https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [19:28] mandoguit, thx trying the boot-repair will reboot and see if it helped [19:31] after grub has reinstalled... :) kinda wierd anyway installed ubuntu before and it made a uefi partition for me now it has created one but i cant see it in bios ... only thing that i have done is that i had windows 8 installed betweed [19:31] between [19:34] even in the installer it shows the 200 mb efi partition and i have choosen to install grubb there [19:35] *grub ... [19:43] hmm should the grub reinstall realy take this long... [19:53] 25 min and still going.... maybe something is realy wrong here _ [19:53] ? [20:17] hi [20:18] raring just booted in my new laptop asus ux32vd === johnjohn1011 is now known as johnjohn101 [20:19] but without X, just console [20:28] NoNaMeNo, YOu familioar with using nomodeset? [20:28] *you familiar [20:29] yes, I run it first with "nomodeset", but then I pluged in an HDMI display and without writing nomodeset in boot, it worked [20:30] NoNaMeNo, nomodeset at the kernel is a per-seesion use, if I understand you correctly, I doubt I am though. [20:30] yes wilee-nilee, I wrote nomodeset in the kernel line in grub [20:32] NoNaMeNo, The key here in getting help is exacting information. For example I can't even tell if you just want a console, nor what has gotten you where you are. I'm not much help in the graphics anyway, however I would like you to get help. ;) [20:33] i'm sorry wilee-nilee , I just got this laptop and I'm trying to install ubuntu alongside Windows 8 [20:33] ubuntu 12.10 didn't worked [20:33] Ah a UEFI set up I would go to the ubuntu forums there is great help there. [20:34] didn't boot, it got stuck somewhere in the boot process without freezing, so I tried ubuntu 13.04 and it worked [20:34] and I am still talking about the live usb [20:35] Now, I managed to boot the live ubuntu 13.04 so I guess I will just try the "install ubuntu alongside windows 8" and see what happens [20:36] NoNaMeNo, here is UEFI link this might be helpful if you want to install. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [20:37] NoNaMeNo, There are some specific things needing done with a UEFI setup you want to very careful and have your windows backed up. [20:37] I do have a internal SSD with the main hard disk, and I still don't understand at 100% how the Intel Rapid Storage Technology works [20:38] wilee-nilee: my windows backed up? I just bought it, so there is not much I would really want to save besides the whole OS [20:39] NoNaMeNo, I would not just randomly trying to install hoping for the best with that setup, start a thread at the ubuntu forums and get some advice, unless you are sure you can do it, the new UEFI and the ssd part is partially tricky. [20:39] I read that link, I couldn't boot the ubuntu live without disabling the secure boot feature... [20:39] NoNaMeNo, At the least then have the recovery disc in case you need to get in to mess with the boot or a recovery....etc. [20:40] I guess it is the best but, what's the worst case scenario? [20:41] NoNaMeNo, Anything can happen, my advice is based on make it easiest for yourself, so that you are not spending days fixing it rather then days understanding it so you are covered. [20:42] I don't have any, just a sticker on my charger, the system came preinstalled, I could install a windows 8 in the future alongside ubuntu, I have the need of a working ubuntu [20:43] NoNaMeNo, You can make a recovery disc every release since vista allows this it is just a boot disc, probably one of the most important tools to have. [20:44] you can just save the ISO I believe, takes like 30 seconds. [20:47] NoNaMeNo, Good luck I have to go. [20:47] well, I guess I am going to read a bit before installing [20:47] oh === rymate1234 is now known as agrift === agrift is now known as aheadley === aheadley is now known as rymate1234 [23:08] Has anyone encountered problems with some videos playing with the colour balance being shifted far too bright through gstreamer in raring? [23:15] 02:37 < maxb> Hrm... on raring it seems like some video files are playing much too bright - the effect is similar to a gamma adjustment [23:15] 02:37 < maxb> Looks like it could be gstreamer related - playing with xine-ui looks more normal [23:15] yes [23:16] xine-ui didn't help? :) [23:16] It helped point the finger at gstreamer, but personally I quite *like* totem [23:39] Is there a WUBI installer for 13.04? I've been googling but so far no luck... [23:40] wubi :( [23:41] I know. Nevertheless...we do what we must to run Linux. [23:49] briarrose: Wubi is broken and I've heard talk it will be dropped for 13.04 [23:50] Broken how? [23:50] Pici: there are a couple of bugs. Bug 1155704 [23:50] bug 1155704 in Wubi "13.04 installer doesn't create user account" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1155704 [23:51] bug 1134770 [23:51] bug 1134770 in Wubi "Wubi fails to detect 12.04.2 and 13.04 AMD64 ISO" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1134770 [23:52] Looks rather serious. [23:52] Although I haven't tried it, I would guess that a 32bit ISO would be the only way to install wubi in 13.04