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rsalvetisergiusens: any idea why CI is not doing the autobuild and such for https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/platform-api/inline-packaging/+merge/153874 ?00:21
xnoxrsalveti: not approved / +1 by anyone?00:22
* xnox thought there needs to be one approved first.00:22
xnoxunless I'm not in the "right" team memberships again....00:22
rsalvetixnox: it should build and publish the package build results as soon you open up a MR00:23
rsalvetialso, for every new commit you push00:23
rsalvetito avoid build failures before actually approving the package00:23
ajalkane/quitf00:23
rsalvetibut nothing is happening with this mr, don't know why00:23
rsalvetixnox: also added a commit message to the mr, that would case failure as well00:24
rsalvetithe CI script uses the commit message as part of the bzr merge commit log00:24
xnoxdoes it not know how to use debcommit as a fallback?00:25
* xnox uses00:25
xnox$ cat ~/.bazaar/builddeb.conf00:25
xnox[BUILDDEB]00:25
xnoxcommit-message-from-changelog=True00:25
xnox(most of the time, like when merging in the branches)00:26
rsalvetixnox: don't think that's supported at the CI script itself yet00:26
sergiusensrsalveti: let me check00:49
* sergiusens was at a FLISOL meetup00:49
sergiusensrsalveti: my first thought would be that xnox is not part of product strategy00:51
rsalvetisergiusens: but why would CI not run because of that?00:52
rsalvetiI thought that the only restriction would be if he decided to top approve the mr00:53
sergiusensrsalveti: there's a security check to avoid people not allowed to see if that person can contribute00:58
sergiusensrsalveti: phone-app has all tests passing, gj boiko !00:58
rsalvetiyup :-)00:59
boikosergiusens: yeah, autopilot itself is a bit shaky still though00:59
rsalvetisergiusens: sorry, didn't catch why the security check00:59
sergiusensboiko: what issues?00:59
rsalvetithought it could be to not allow any random code to run01:00
sergiusensrsalveti: Contributor Agreement and stuff like that... I didn't do it initially though ;-)01:00
boikosergiusens: some tests fail randomly, and when they fail, the video shows the phone-app launched, but the mouse pointer won't move01:00
rsalvetiand all the other checks would happen once the MR is top approved01:00
sergiusensrsalveti: also that... you can do anything on the server with test code ;-)01:00
rsalvetisergiusens: well, xnox works for canonical01:00
sergiusensboiko: virtualization woes I guess01:00
rsalvetisergiusens: right01:00
sergiusensrsalveti: yeah, I think the original config is only for PS... give me a sec to check01:01
rsalvetiwell, we need to improve this then01:01
rsalvetiwe want to at least make the CI to work for people that accepted the ca01:01
rsalvetiwhich we can check via a lp group01:01
rsalvetidon't remember which one though01:01
boikosergiusens: maybe01:01
xnoxbtw, I'm sure i have signed CA before becoming canonical way back when, but it doesn't look like i got added to the right teams at the time.01:05
rsalvetitime to watch some football01:07
sergiusensrsalveti: bugs logged decades ago ;-)01:07
sergiusensrsalveti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jenkins-launchpad-plugin/+bug/113442801:07
ubot5Error: launchpad bug 1134428 not found01:07
sergiusensrsalveti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/jenkins-launchpad-plugin/+bug/113443501:07
ubot5Launchpad bug 1134435 in jenkins-launchpad-plugin "Allow for only limited folk to HApprove MRs" [High,New]01:07
rsalvetisergiusens: but this is to allow people happroving mrs01:09
rsalvetiat this case the ci is not running at all01:09
rsalvetisergiusens: lool top approved https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/phablet-tools/fix-for-1139999/+merge/153419 for example01:26
rsalvetithe package version seems wrong in this case, should not have ubuntu101:26
rsalvetiand we have a few others as well, just interesting why this only happened for platform-api01:26
rsalvetimight be something specific with xnox :-)01:27
sergiusensrsalveti: give me a couple to check01:27
rsalvetiboiko: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phone-app/fix_updated_uitk/+merge/154552 failed01:28
boikorsalveti: yeah, autopilot tests again :/01:28
* xnox did not mean to cause trouble01:28
rsalvetixnox: haha, you probably just found a bug ;-)01:28
boikorsalveti: setting to approved again, let's see if I have a better luck this time01:29
sergiusensrsalveti: yeah, issue is what I though01:31
sergiusensrsalveti http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5632948/01:32
rsalvetisergiusens: right, but why not allowed?01:33
rsalvetias ogra and lool are both able to trigger them? (based on some other mrs)01:33
sergiusensrsalveti: they might be in the canonical-desktop-team01:34
sergiusensrsalveti: don't go crazy, I'm going to fix and just add 'Canonical' or the team it is associated too01:37
sergiusensrsalveti: weird... seems to be a bug when adding groups... I see all the folk you mentioned manually added01:37
sergiusensrsalveti: anyways... the job is running, xnox is whitelisted01:37
sergiusensrsalveti: MR is updated01:37
rsalvetisergiusens: cool, thanks01:38
loologra_: I guess it's unlikely people use ubuntu-touch on powerpc, but would it make sense to list it again just so that it doesn't FTBFS there?  this doesn't seem super architecture specific01:38
xnoxsergiusens: rsalveti: with some other jenkins jobs, it was the case that it could not check membership in private teams. thus one coulding just check 'Canonical' for example.01:38
rsalvetiright, makes sense01:40
sergiusensxnox: I added 'canonical' which is the team name for 'Canonical' and no dice.. I needed to add you manually01:40
sergiusensxnox: teams aren't just working for the whitelist it seems01:40
* xnox got a thumbs up from jenkins! I must be awesome =)01:44
rsalvetiboiko: weird, I'm able to send the sms from the telephony-app, but then the message is not available at the app itself01:45
rsalvetiit stays blank, and once I move back to the call ui, or contacts, the log is not there01:45
rsalvetiis that related with the crashing issue as well?01:45
boikorsalveti: hmm, interesting, no messages at all showing in the conversation view?01:46
rsalvetiboiko: nops01:46
rsalvetijust the number at the top and a blank conversation log below01:46
rsalvetireceiving is fine, just when I send the message01:47
boikorsalveti: interesting, I'll check that, but probably tomorrow, might be related to some big changes I did last week01:48
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rsalvetiboiko: right, np01:49
rsalvetiboiko: yup, can receive fine but when sending it is not storing the message at the conversation log01:51
boikorsalveti: closing the app and opening again shows the messages there, right?01:51
sergiusensrsalveti: do you have a vanilla pbuilder chroot avail?01:51
rsalvetiboiko: just the ones I received01:52
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rsalvetisergiusens: probably not, but can build if needed, what needs testing?01:52
boikorsalveti: really? closing the app and opening again is not showing the ones you sent? hmm, interesting01:52
rsalvetiboiko: will test again once the new version lands01:52
sergiusensrsalveti: I know I have a vanilla one... but I notice python is installed by default... might be because I used the pes pbuild script...01:52
sergiusensmight be the extra packages thing01:53
rsalvetisergiusens: it's because pbuilder install build-essential I believe01:53
rsalvetisergiusens: just do a rev dep01:53
boikorsalveti: other autopilot tests failed, this is not funny anymore :/01:54
rsalvetiboiko: hm, it's now at the log after rebooting01:54
rsalvetiboiko: :-(01:54
sergiusensboiko: logs?01:55
rsalvetilol, after closing and opening it up again they are gone01:55
boikosergiusens: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner/198/?01:55
boikosergiusens: and it is not even the same tests, every time a different test fails01:56
boikorsalveti: this is really strange, would you mind running it from the console to see if there is anything interesting in the output?01:57
rsalvetiboiko: sure01:58
sergiusensboiko: from the log it feels like the tests are racing... are you using Eventually always?01:59
rsalvetiboiko: hm, both phone-app and telephony-app are installed01:59
sergiusensboiko: have you ever seen/read: https://lists.launchpad.net/autopilot-users/msg00000.html02:00
boikosergiusens: in most if not all places02:00
rsalvetiboiko: and neither is showing at the screen when launching from cmdline02:00
rsalvetiqml-phone-shell 1.6402:01
sergiusensboiko: let me streamline it then02:01
boikorsalveti: are you running with --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/phone-app.desktop ?02:02
rsalvetiThe following packages will be REMOVED:02:02
rsalveti  indicators-client-examples qml-phone-shell telephony-app02:02
rsalvetiwhen trying to remove telephony-app02:02
rsalvetinops02:02
boikorsalveti: when running from cmdline you need to use that arg02:02
rsalvetigot it02:02
boikorsalveti: interesting the dependency of indicators-client-examples on telephony-app02:03
rsalvetiboiko: no logs at all02:03
rsalvetimight be from qml-phone-shell02:03
rsalvetidid we rename the dep there?02:03
rsalvetiindeed, it might be from the indicator02:05
boikorsalveti: there I  didn't rename anything that I remember02:05
rsalvetiboiko: yup02:05
rsalvetiPackage: indicators-client-examples02:05
rsalvetiArchitecture: all02:05
rsalveti         telephony-app,02:05
rsalvetiboiko: mind checking if that needs update as well?02:07
rsalvetinot sure why it depends on the telephony-app02:07
boikorsalveti: that probably needs update02:07
boikorsalveti: the fake data needs the desktop files that are in telephony-app02:08
rsalvetiboiko: got it02:08
boikorsalveti: I'll update and place an MR, in a minute02:08
rsalvetiboiko: sure, thanks02:09
dank101http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Aflrbwna4402:09
dank101best02:09
dank101chrome02:09
dank101ad02:09
dank101ever02:09
sergiusensrsalveti: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/notes-app/python-dep/+merge/15457402:10
rsalvetisergiusens: yeah, I remember I had to add python in another mr last week02:11
rsalvetimight be similar02:11
rsalveti$ dpkg -S /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/sysconfig.py02:12
rsalvetilibpython2.7-stdlib:amd64: /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/sysconfig.py02:12
rsalvetiwhich is probably installed by the main python package02:12
rsalvetisergiusens: guess just this package might be enough02:13
rsalvetibut depending on python might be easier to avoid similar issues later02:13
boikosergiusens: anything I can do for the tests, or should I just try approving it again?02:13
boikorsalveti: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/indicators-client/rename_phoneapp/+merge/15457502:16
boikorsalveti: but better wait for ci to run02:17
rsalvetiboiko: right02:17
sergiusensboiko: I'll take care... sorry, was on the phone02:33
boikosergiusens: ok, no problems, the only think I can think about is that I'm not waiting for the startup, I can add a condition on that in the tests02:34
boikolet me do that02:34
boikosergiusens: I'll cancel the currently running job to submit my change, ok?02:35
insink71after playing with this on gnex for a little bit.. I see its promise :)02:37
sergiusensboiko: ok02:39
sergiusensboiko: was just looking02:39
sergiusensboiko: that Eventually would seem to do the trick02:40
boikosergiusens: so, I use Eventually in all checks02:41
boikosergiusens: the only thing I was not doing was the wait for the UI to show thing02:41
boikosergiusens: oh, you merged the changes02:43
insink71might there be a trick for setting a static ip for networking?02:44
boikosergiusens: so, I ended up pushing the other autopilot change to the same branch, but I see you merged it, so I can push that fix to a separate branch tomorrow morning02:44
boikosergiusens: now I only need this one to land, and I'm good for the day: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phone-app/release_0.59.1/+merge/15456002:45
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boikosergiusens: I'll delete the release MR, and create again without the dependency02:54
rsalvetiinsink71: not actually, it uses NM02:55
rsalvetiyou are even able to use the same config generated at your desktop, just need to remove the mac address02:55
boikosergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phone-app/release_0.59.1/+merge/15458102:57
rsalvetiboiko: did the one it's depending failed again?02:58
boikorsalveti: I think sergiusens did some magic trick, it got merged02:59
rsalvetigot it02:59
sergiusensboiko: I am lost03:01
sergiusensboiko: two MRs with basically the same thing03:01
sergiusenswhich one do you want?03:01
insink71hmm nm allows support for static ip.. Right click on the applet and select edit connections. .  I gotta super secure admin that gave me one address entry at work ;) everywhere else dhcp is fine03:01
sergiusensboiko: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phone-app/release_0.59.1/+merge/154581 or https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phone-app/release_0.59.1/+merge/154560 ?03:02
rsalvetisergiusens: another broken ci https://code.launchpad.net/~awe/phablet-extras/ofono-sms-parcels/+merge/15296903:02
rsalvetihttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/phablet-extras-ofono-quantal-i386-autolanding/1/console03:02
rsalvetishould use armhf as autoland03:02
sergiusensboiko: nvm... seeing the superseeded just now03:02
boikosergiusens: sorry for all this trouble, but I am already way too tired to think03:03
sergiusensrsalveti: looking03:04
Ironman273Why does my Ubuntu Touch install on a Nexus 7 look like the desktop version of Ubuntu instead of the screenshots I've seen of large icons?03:06
boikosergiusens: thanks for merging the release one, I'll give the autopilot tests a closer look tomorrow03:06
boikobut now I'll go to sleep03:06
boikosee you!03:06
dank101should i watch slender before bed03:06
sergiusensrsalveti: hot fixed03:06
dank101or is that suicidal03:06
rsalvetisergiusens: thanks03:07
rsalvetiIronman273: maybe you installed the wrong image03:07
rsalvetiwe have the ubuntu touch and the ubuntu desktop for nexus 703:07
rsalvetiIronman273: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install03:08
Ironman273Yeah, I followed all the instructions for the Touch version.. I also saw one YouTube video that has the same UI that I got...03:08
Ironman273Damn, now I can't find it..03:10
Ironman273Do I just follow all the instructions again even though it already has (some version of) Ubuntu on it?03:12
sergiusensIronman273: follow sergiusens.github.com/posts/installing-ubuntu-touch-preview-on-the-nexus-7-with-ubuntu-on-it.html if you please03:13
Ironman273sergiusens: Thanks!03:14
sergiusensrsalveti: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/cupstream2distro-config/no-386-for-ofono/+merge/15458203:14
rsalvetisergiusens: right, cool03:16
rsalvetisergiusens: there's no raring package yet, is that expected?03:16
sergiusensrsalveti: I haven't deploy this yet, but once it is, it will try raring builds as well03:17
rsalvetisergiusens: cool03:17
rsalvetijust checking03:17
sergiusensrsalveti: I also managed to graph the PPA deps today... although it feels easier to read plain text after all that :-P03:18
rsalvetisergiusens: :-)03:18
rsalvetisergiusens: with graphiviz?03:18
TysonBrooksSo.... When are the stable releases expected to be out for the ubuntu tv, tablet and phone?03:18
rsalveti*graphviz03:19
sergiusensrsalveti: with gephi03:19
rsalvetiTysonBrooks: we should have something around the end of this year, but 14.04 is the final target03:19
sergiusensrsalveti: nonesense ;-) Everything should be stable today, just not feature complete :-D03:20
TysonBrooksI'm really excited about this project. I wish I knew more of the details of building so I could contribute. Once this project is stable. I can easily see myself switching to ubuntu 100% of the time.03:20
rsalvetisergiusens: right :-)03:22
TysonBrookssergiusens: thats what I was refering too, feature complete. So is there any documentation out on where I can start to learn how to build apps for the phone?03:22
TysonBrookserr os I should say, not phone.03:23
sergiusensTysonBrooks: app development is covered lots... one sec03:23
sergiusensTysonBrooks: this is like the last thing you would do: http://theravingrick.blogspot.com.ar/2013/03/sweet-ubuntu-device-qtcreator.html03:24
sergiusensTysonBrooks: and this is where to start: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/03:25
* sergiusens is off to some midnight TV and bed03:25
Ironman273Can I tell what I might've done wrong from the bootloader?03:25
TysonBrookssergiusens thanks03:26
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bzoltan1sergiusens:  Yes, it did ... I asked LP ops to increase the PPA size03:41
Ironman273OK, this sounds like it will be a stupid question on this channel, but here goes:  I keep getting "No command 'adb' found"03:42
bzoltan1Ironman273: `sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb` will install the adb03:44
Ironman273bzoltan1: Thanks.03:47
samirhello all04:39
samirso.. I have ubuntu flashed on my tablet... dumb question.. how do I use it, looks like the touch screen deosn't seem to work04:44
samirnever mind.. it was just being picky04:46
Mohamed-AnwarHi05:56
Mohamed-AnwarAnyone here05:58
insink71lots of ppl here06:14
jacksonlol yep06:15
lucatest06:37
luca I have an AIO device, which comes with an Touch Panel.   I'm using ubuntu 12.04.   When I insmod Touch Panel driver, the "double click" behaviour can not react properly. At the same time the mouse is also being unable to "double click" correctly.   This Touch Panel driver work normally at ubuntu 10.04 and 11.10.   This version(ubuntu 12.04) has done what changes?06:38
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dholbachgood morning08:17
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WebVisitor-3Hi does somebody know is it possible to get "true multitouch" working besides 2-finger-scrolling on synaptics touchpad?09:33
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Wuestenschifftest10:16
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ogra_Wuestenschiff, failed10:19
Wuestenschiffno just wrong channel sry irssi ist not that userfriendly10:19
zygahi11:03
agcalamitaITAzyga: Good Morning11:03
zygaI'm trying to follow the tutorial for the currency converter app on raring11:03
zygathere are some inaccuracies there (like qml 1 vs qml 2 choices)11:04
zygabut what really troubles me is that it no longer works: I get "QQmlComponent: Component is not ready", right after pasting in the first part of the tutorial11:04
* zyga rechecks if he followed all the steps carefully11:06
agcalamitaITALink to tutorial? You using QT Creator?11:06
zygayes11:07
zygahttp://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-developer-cookbook/mobile/currency-converter-phone-app/11:07
zygagive me a second, maybe that was a borked update somewhere11:08
zygaah, yeah, probably my fault11:10
agcalamitaITAHaha! What have you missed? :)11:10
zygatoo many machines, this one didn't have the SDK, just qt creator11:10
agcalamitaITA:) That explains it!11:10
zygaright11:11
zygathat's more like it11:11
zygahmm11:12
zygastill not quite right11:12
zygathe application name does _not_ show up11:12
zygaand I see the same "QQmlComponent: Component is not ready" message in qt creator11:12
agcalamitaITADouble checked *all* the code? I've never used QT Creator (only Visual Studio for C# apps) so not sure what debugging is like...11:13
zygayes, I'm just pasting stuff11:13
zygaI create a new project with the example Ubuntu UI11:14
zyga(for desktop)11:14
zygahmm, anyone from canonical that I could ping about the sdk on raring?11:15
agcalamitaITANot that I know off the top of my head. #ubuntu may be the place to ask :)11:16
zyganah, that's too generic, #u-touch is the right place to be11:17
zygamaybe #u-sdk though11:17
zyganope, no such channel11:17
sergiusenszyga: bzoltan1 or jppiiroi1en might be able to help11:17
zygasergiusens: thanks11:17
zygabzoltan1, jppiiroi1en: ping, possible issue with touch SDK on raring11:17
sergiusenszyga: this is to my knowledge the right channel still11:18
zygasergiusens: #ubuntu?11:18
* sergiusens believes that app development might be better suited to another channel11:18
zygayeah11:18
zyga#ubuntu-app-devel?11:18
sergiusenszyga: #ubuntu-touch is today the channel used for app development still11:19
sergiusenszyga: dholbach might have ideas there ;-)11:19
zygaI'll see what they say :)11:19
dholbachthere's #ubuntu-app-devel too11:19
zygadholbach: where should one ask questions about touch app development? in here or #ubuntu-app-devel, and second, do you know from the top of your head how to report bugs against the sdk?11:19
sergiusensthis channel is not high traffic though so I don't mind the mix11:20
dholbachbut I didn't see a decision being made about where app related discussion should happen11:20
zygaok11:20
dholbachin the beginning it might even help to everyone looking at one channel11:20
* zyga just reproduced the same issue on vanilla ubuntu11:20
sergiusenszyga: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit11:21
dholbachzyga, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+related-projects is what I could find - I'm not 100% sure if that's the best place to report bugs - greyback: do you know?11:21
zygathanks!11:21
sergiusenswell for the actual toolkit, what I posted... for the qtcreator stuff, I am not sure11:22
sergiusensah https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins11:22
greybackreading up...11:24
zygahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/115824611:25
ubot5Launchpad bug 1158246 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "tutorial applications don't render the title bar 13.04 (raring)" [Undecided,New]11:25
zygagreyback: I've reported a bug on that just now, please tell me if I should attach anything else there, like versions of the sdk or screenshots11:27
greybackzyga: the warning "QQmlComponent: Component is not ready" is not your fault, it seems to come from the MainView component11:27
greybackzyga: sorry, I'm only catching up now!11:27
greybackzyga: a quick screengrab would be appreciated11:29
greybackzyga: the summary is that the qmlscene does not draw it's window decorations? So no titlebar11:29
zygak11:29
greybackzyga: I'm curious what the qml1 vs qml2 issues you see11:30
zygaperhaps that's misleading, the big text "currency converter" as visible in the tutorial page is missing, actual x11 window decorations _are_ display and _do_ have a title bar that says "qmlscene: mainView"11:30
zygagreyback: qt creator has more options that the tutorial claims for me11:30
greybackzyga: aha I see what you mean11:30
zygagreyback: let me screen share quickly11:30
greybackzyga: that component is called the "Header" I think. It was changed recently, which has broken some apps. That's one we forgot to fix11:31
zygahttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/debaa5c3a2b7d646a0b91ee7195081a5547170dd?authuser=0&hl=pl11:31
zygagreyback: sorry for dropping out, if you know who to contact then just ping me on IRC11:41
greybackzyga: will do. He's away right now, hope he'll be back soon11:41
zygathanks11:42
greybackzyga: as far as I understand things, this /should/ work http://sketchpad.cc/CFXY1tnJe311:43
zygagreyback: yes that works11:44
zygagreyback: thanks11:44
greybackzyga: ok glad it's working anyway11:44
zygagreyback: is there a way I can propose a merge request for the example code?11:44
greybackzyga: absolutely. The project trunk is lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit11:46
greybackzyga: all contributions welcome11:46
zygathanks, let's see11:46
zygagreyback: that's the actual example, I was also thinking about the web page11:48
greybackzyga: it needs updating too probably.11:49
t1mpgreyback: I'm here :)11:49
* t1mp reading backlog11:49
greybackzyga: meet t1mp, author of the header stuff you were working on11:50
zygat1mp: hey, nice to meet you!11:50
zygat1mp: I found a bug in the examples and the website11:50
greybackt1mp: we'll need to update http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/app-developer-cookbook/mobile/currency-converter-phone-app/ to reflect the new header11:50
zygat1mp: I've filed it as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1158246 it probably needs to be move to more appropriate projects though11:50
ubot5Launchpad bug 1158246 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "tutorial applications don't render the header 13.04 (raring)" [Undecided,New]11:50
t1mpthe tutorial needs an update11:51
t1mpgreyback: yes.11:51
t1mphello zyga, nice to meet you :)11:51
t1mpzyga: the MainView now automatically creates a header, probably that hides the Label.11:57
t1mpzyga: I pasted some code that works in your bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/115824611:57
ubot5Launchpad bug 1158246 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "tutorial applications don't render the header 13.04 (raring)" [Undecided,New]11:57
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zygat1mp: thanks12:06
t1mpzyga: sorry for the hassle. I wasn't aware that my updates broke the tutorial, we need to update it.12:07
t1mpthanks for reporting it:)12:08
janimorsalveti, to build Ubuntu Touch even for the supported nexus devices, is a call to extract-files.sh  necessary?12:08
zygat1mp: my pleasure, thanks!12:08
janimorsalveti, I got the cm-.zip filename output even for nexus devices not only the one I tried porting, I am now doing a clean repo ans trying again12:09
janimorsalveti, my first grouper build had a proper zip name but subsequent ones fif not12:10
loolbzoltan1: w00t, I hope the sdk metapkg changes were ok; one thing I noticed is that there was a dep on qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu which probably prevented the package from migrating from -proposed to raring, I've commented it out for now in the seed, I guess it's in NEW or so12:17
janimolool, are all SDK related packages going into raring soon avoiding the need for a PPA?12:18
looljanimo: I don't know; I would think so, albeit I'm a bit confused because some packages are renamed or getting dropped along the way12:25
bzoltan1lool: in that case it would be nice to have the qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu and the new qtcreator too in Raring... but that needs an FFE12:28
loolbzoltan1: Shouldn't be a problem for an entirely new package I'd guess, the existing FFEs might already cover that in fact12:35
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om26erwhats the lp project for the telephony app ?12:53
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victorpout?13:07
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nOStahlhi guys, got my hands on an eee tf101 here. anyone else have the transformer?13:27
janimonOStahl,hi I also have a tf101, but did not run Ubuntu Touch on it yet13:43
nOStahljust got this one on ebay for 250 bucks13:44
nOStahlI have to say asus impressed me again :)13:44
nOStahlreally solid feeling device13:44
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ogra_rsalveti, fyi MP fixed ...13:50
jcastrooSoMoN: thanks so much for following up on that dropdown bug. You are awesome.14:06
janimosergiusens, I could not figure out the reason for getting files simply named cm-.zip as output. It happens even with mako and grouper not just my port14:08
janimosergiusens, I did a clean sync today and building out of phablet sources when I get this14:08
ogra_ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/android-x86$ ls ../phablet-android/out/target/product/i9100/*.zip14:09
ogra_../phablet-android/out/target/product/i9100/cm-10.1-20130303-UNOFFICIAL-i9100.zip14:09
ogra_thats what i get14:09
ogra_smells broken if you dont ...14:09
janimoogra_, yes I know it is broken, my very first build a couple weeks ago resulted in normal .zip names14:10
janimobut not since14:10
ogra_well just do a fresh phablet-dev-bootstrap, its only 12G :P14:11
janimoogra_, I have a out/target/product/mako/full_mako-ota-eng.jani.zip don't you have something similar?14:11
ogra_yep14:11
janimothe cm-.zip is hardlink to that actually14:11
ogra_cm_i9100-ota-eng.ogra.zip14:11
janimoogra_, ok you did a ls *.zip above and I thought you pasted all zips you see14:12
janimoogra_, do you know if we have online build logs for daily images?14:12
janimoI could compare output14:12
oSoMoNjcastro: you’re welcome, thanks for filing the bug :) hopefully we’ll manage to land a fix today14:13
rickspencer3oSoMoN, I'm getting bug #1133705  is there anything I can do to help debug it?14:13
ubot5bug 1133705 in touch-preview-images "Browser seems to try and pull Web address when Google search bar becomes full nexus 7" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113370514:13
oSoMoNrickspencer3: that’s on N7, right?14:14
rickspencer3oSoMoN, yes, I should have mentioned, I have an N7 ;)14:14
oSoMoNrickspencer3: so my wild guess is that the top row of the OSK, for some reason, triggers a focus change, for some reason14:16
oSoMoNrickspencer3: could you confirm that this happens for all the keys on the top row of the OSK?14:16
oSoMoNrickspencer3: and nowhere else?14:17
rickspencer3oSoMoN, sure, give me a few minutes though14:17
rsalvetiogra_: thanks14:17
oSoMoNrickspencer3: thanks, no rush, I’m working on another bug atm anyway14:18
rickspencer3ack14:18
rickspencer3oSoMoN, I'll confirm and add it to the bug report14:18
oSoMoNthanks14:19
rsalvetijanimo: that's weird, did you try finding why it could not fetch the version+date when doing the build?14:21
ogra_janimo, probably somewhete in the VPN ... aks sergiusens14:21
ogra_*somewhere14:21
janimorsalveti, I found that common.mk file (IIRC) is not even sourced14:21
rsalvetijanimo: it's easier if you call extract-files.sh, but you can also download them from google14:21
janimorsalveti, right, I somehow thought breakfast brings those but those are not redistributable so I guess not14:22
ogra_janimo, could it be that you forgot to call ". build/envsetup.sh" before running brunch ?14:22
ogra_(though i would expect that to spill errors)14:22
janimoogra_, no, or brunch would not have been available14:22
janimoright14:22
sergiusensogra_: janimo passing in private14:23
sergiusensogra_: brunch wouldn't be avail without sourcing though14:23
ogra_yeah14:23
sergiusensrsalveti: janimo ogra_ make should the BUILD envvar is correct!14:24
sergiusensthat can be it14:24
sergiusenshad that issue with jenkins a while back where it reset the var14:24
rsalvetiweird is that it worked sometimes it seems14:25
rsalvetiogra_: janimo: with --reference you can easily get a new env without downloading much14:26
rsalvetiif you want to try in a clean environment14:26
janimosergiusens, what BUILD envvar? what sets that?14:26
janimorsalveti, I tried but I did not have a mirror repo but a regular sync14:26
janimoand apparently --reference needs a mirror14:26
janimoprobably can be tricked into that by changing some config files in .repo I don't know14:27
janimorsalveti, so I did actualy try a clean environment this morning - <3h of syncing14:27
rsalvetijanimo: you can use phablet-dev-bootstrap with --reference, and use your previous env as reference14:27
janimoand that has the issue, hence my coming back with the question14:27
rsalvetidoesn't need to be a mirror14:27
janimorsalveti, I tried that and it failed. I passed it the directory14:28
janimoshould it have been dir/.repo or something?14:28
sergiusensrsalveti: janimo but you can't delete the ref afterwards ;-)14:28
rsalvetiyeah, it should work by just passing the root dir14:28
janimorepo --reference doc says the source needs to be createed with repo --mirror14:28
rsalvetiwell, that wasn't the case before14:28
sergiusensjanimo: it worked for me without a mirror14:28
rsalvetiI know repo keeps updating itself14:28
janimosergiusens, rsalveti ah it worked for me but it kept getting stuff from the net14:29
janimoso in that respect it did not work14:29
janimoso it was not cloning stuff from the local disk14:29
rsalvetijanimo: weird14:29
rsalvetiit should just clone the repo tree from the net14:30
rsalvetifrom google, and the rest from your local disk14:30
rsalvetihow did you run it?14:30
janimorsalveti, yes, it was getting repos from phablet.ubuntu.com14:30
janimophablet-dev-bootstrap -r existing new14:30
rsalvetithat's interesting, let me try14:31
janimoFrom git://phablet.ubuntu.com/CyanogenMod/android14:31
janimofor example14:31
janimobut also other repos, so I stopped it after a minute or two14:31
rsalvetiit'll get at least from repo and git://phablet.ubuntu.com/CyanogenMod/android14:32
rsalvetibut the rest should be from your previous local tree14:32
rsalvetijanimo: hm, just cloned the entire tree here and it didn't grab anything from the net other than repo and the android one14:38
janimorsalveti, good to know, I need to try again14:38
rsalvetimaybe something was missing at your initial sync14:38
janimorepo version v1.12.214:39
janimorsalveti, does not work even if using today's fresh checkout as reference14:40
rsalvetirepo version v1.12.214:41
rsalvetigit version 1.8.1.214:41
rsalvetirepo launcher version 1.1914:41
rsalvetijanimo: weird14:41
rsalvetido you get any error when just doing repo sync?14:41
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rickspencer3oSoMoN, ok, so far as I can tell "q" works fine, everything else in the top row is busted14:46
oSoMoNrickspencer3: interesting, that would roughly correspond to the span of the address bar, width-wise14:48
oSoMoNrickspencer3: actually, more than interesting, I think I know what’s going on, thanks a bunch!14:48
tvossoSoMoN, rickspencer3 you might want to check with tmoenicke about the dimensions that the osk reports on n714:48
oSoMoNtvoss: good point14:49
oSoMoNrickspencer3: can you add your findings to the bug report?14:49
rickspencer3oSoMoN, I thought I did!14:50
rickspencer3oSoMoN, I added it to bug #113370514:50
rickspencer3brb14:50
ubot5bug 1133705 in touch-preview-images "Browser seems to try and pull Web address when Google search bar becomes full nexus 7" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113370514:50
janimorsalveti, no errors on repo sync. It takes a while in Fetching projects till 100% and then done14:51
rsalvetijanimo: that's weird then =\14:53
janimorsalveti, ack :/14:53
rsalvetijhodapp: ricmm: sergiusens: sync?15:01
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sergiusensrsalveti: oops15:01
victorp_mfisch, what bt keybard u use15:01
janimosergiusens, which is the BUILD envvar that you mentioned above? I have CM_BUILD empty in env15:05
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Guest26991hi15:09
Guest26991alert() in javascript doesn't work with webbrowser ?15:10
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rsalvetisergiusens: are we building with dbg symbols support at the phablet ppa?15:57
sergiusensrsalveti: the ppa ones?16:03
rsalvetisergiusens: yup, I know we had for a few ppas before, but not sure if we enabled it at our main public ppa now16:04
sergiusensrsalveti: no, it's not16:04
sergiusensrsalveti: most packages have a debug package now16:04
rsalvetisergiusens: we might want to enable16:04
sergiusensrsalveti: why? Will it happen when we move to distro?16:05
rsalvetisergiusens: true, guess we can wai16:06
rsalvetiwait16:06
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rickspencer3I've said it before, I'll say it again .. the device integration in QtCreator is so cool16:18
agcalamitaITArickspencer3: I've not used it yet... is it worth it? :)16:19
rickspencer3agcalamitaITA, totally16:19
rickspencer3I'm using it to update to todays daily image16:19
agcalamitaITAMaybe because I've not wrote anything in Qt Creator yet...16:20
rickspencer3and it makes it super easy to run my apps16:20
rickspencer3agcalamitaITA, well, if you get the SDK and start a Ubuntu app ... it's pretty cool16:20
rickspencer3and you can just push it to your attached device to test it out16:20
rickspencer3in my case, a nexus 716:20
agcalamitaITAIt's worth it for that ;) I've only tested the core apps via SSH and ran them directly onto the device.16:20
agcalamitaITAI've been having a look at the converter application recipie and it looks pretty interesting. Might put some time aside to start learning! Only programming I've done is C#16:21
rickspencer3agcalamitaITA, well, I think it's worth it, just because it makes everything easy16:21
agcalamitaITAWhat're you working on?16:21
rickspencer3agcalamitaITA, I am making a game kind of like daleks16:21
rickspencer3I put some posts up about it: http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/16:22
rickspencer3please don't tell me I am the only one here old enough to remember Daleks16:22
rickspencer3:)16:22
rickspencer3agcalamitaITA, if you can rock C#, you will love QML16:22
rickspencer3just need to get your head around declarative programming16:23
t1mprickspencer3: I didn't know your blog yet. Looks good, I'll follow it :)16:23
ogra_t1mp, you dont read planet.ubuntu.com ?16:26
t1mpogra_: :) some times, but I forgot about it recently. I'm very busy ;)16:29
t1mpogra_: but now that you mention it, good idea!16:30
ogra_:)16:32
rickspencer3ogra_, I know you told me a couple of days ago, but how do I check the version of the image that i have on my tablet again?16:41
rickspencer3oh rats, the ssh button isn't working :,(16:43
ogra_rickspencer3, cat /etc/buildstamp16:45
ogra_and there should also be /system/quantal-ubuntu_stamp16:45
rickspencer3thanks ogra_16:46
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mhall119pmcgowan: ogra_: t1mp: any of you know what will be backing the datetime indicator on UnityNext?17:17
mhall119it's evolution-data-server now on the desktop17:17
ogra_probably the same then, no idea17:18
pmcgowanmhall119: check with lars I think17:19
mhall119pmcgowan: plars?17:22
mhall119or larsu17:23
pmcgowanlarsu17:23
mhall119ok17:23
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larsgkmhall119: I have a question about how we work on separate branches vs the trunk (rss feeder).18:31
larsgkmhall119: who approves branch commits to be included in the main?  The issue is that there is a lot of development going on in a few of the dev branches - but not much being moved over.18:33
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mhall119larsgk: anybody on the dev team for that project can approve branches for trunk18:34
larsgkmhall119: I could of course - just pick from all the branches and put it in mine .. just seems more natural to work on the same "trunk" with a review of patches on a mailing list or such.  Especially when the application and team is small18:34
mhall119it has to be reviewed, have a commit message, and be marked as approved18:34
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larsgkmhall119: aaa ok - so I could just review and approve?  (new to launchpad) - I thought we needed a mgr/approver/project dude to put the approval stamp18:36
mhall119larsgk: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/DevelopmentGuide#Reviewing_Branches for how the process should work18:36
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larsgkmhall119: thanks18:36
mhall119larsgk: in this case "dude to put the approval stamp" is any member of the dev team18:36
mhall119you don't need someone from Canonical or anything, if that's what you're wondering18:36
mhall119is should be someone other than the person who wrote the code18:37
mhall119just for sanity checking18:37
larsgkmhall119: sounds good - I actually thought it needed someone from canonical (sorry - learning still .. currenly with 2 crying babies in the bg ;))18:41
mhall119larsgk: they never stop, mine are 7 and 8 and they still do it18:44
mhall119:)18:44
nOStahlcan't wait for all this ubuntu infrastructure :)18:45
nOStahlphone tablet and computer and tv muahaha18:45
larsgkmibofra: ;)18:46
larsgkoops18:46
larsgkmhall119: ;)18:46
larsgkmhall119: is it the developer of each branch who is supposed to put commits up for review (proposals).  Or could I propose a merge on someone elses branch? (https://code.launchpad.net/~mrqtros/ubuntu-rssreader-app/appendsheet)18:49
mhall119larsgk: the developer of the branch should propose it for merging when they feel it's ready to be merged18:49
mhall119if they haven't, it's best to try and contact them to find out why18:49
mhall119it could be they just didn't know, or maybe they are still working on it and don't want it merged yet18:50
larsgkmhall119: ok - cool18:50
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mhall119anuj5888: hello19:18
mhall119anuj5888: what areas are you interested in getting involved in?19:19
mhall119We have app development, core OS development, testing, porting19:19
anuj5888mhall119 : development and/or core OS development19:20
mhall119anuj5888: we're working on what we're calling "core apps" in cooperation with the community19:21
mhall119they are written primarily in QML, with some C++/Qt as well19:22
mhall119you can find out more about them here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps19:22
mhall119if you want to try Ubuntu Touch on a supported device, there are detailed instructions for that here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install19:22
anuj5888thanks :)19:23
anuj5888i have tried it on nexus719:23
mhall119and finally, for contributing to the OS devleopment itself, read here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute19:23
mhall119many of the Canonical developer hang out around here, as do very knowledgable community folks, so if you have any questions you can ask them here19:23
mhall119or you can use AskUbuntu.com, and the ubunt-touch tag: http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/ubuntu-touch19:24
anuj5888great! i will start with going through the links19:25
anuj5888thank you :)19:25
mhall119awesome, glad to have you aboard :)19:25
mutantkeyboardmhall119 ... what's the current status of development... I DL'd last image when it was just released and did some hacking, but I needed to revert to Android since I need my device for development...19:29
mhall119mutantkeyboard: there are daily images being released I think, I can't tell you specifically what's working and what isn't19:30
mutantkeyboardI see... that's all I wanted to hear... so you started with nightlies19:30
mhall119that's my understanding, yes19:32
mhall119the phablet-flash tool should download the latest when you run it19:32
mutantkeyboard:) right, going to try it tomorrow. tnx for feedback19:33
pmcgowanmutantkeyboard: mhall119 use the -l switch to get latest19:47
pmcgowanalso there is a changelog with each image19:48
mutantkeyboardright, thanks for that info19:48
mhall119frankencode: it looks like evolution-data-server is going to be used in UnityNext and Touch for the forseeable future, so the ubuntu-calendar-app should use it to store events19:51
pmcgowanmhall119: there is some evaluation going on now afaik, unless you heard an update19:52
pmcgowanlooking at some performance tweaks19:52
pmcgowanor alternatives19:52
pmcgowanbfiller might have an update19:52
mhall119pmcgowan: I just got an email from lars stating that19:53
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pmcgowanmhall119: was that to a mailing list?19:54
mhall119no, personal inquiry19:54
pmcgowanI see19:54
mhall119since he wasn't online for me to ping, I just emailed him19:54
mutantkeyboardguys is there any working alarm on Ubuntu yet?19:54
pmcgowanrenato_ did you talk with lars about that?19:54
mhall119mutantkeyboard: I think it's on the feature list for ubuntu-clock-app19:55
mutantkeyboardI see.19:55
pmcgowanmutantkeyboard: not sure there is a system api exposed to do it  rsalveti?19:56
mutantkeyboardpmcgowan, is't there a way to use system clock API and extend it?19:57
renato_pmcgowan, about the alarm?19:57
pmcgowanthere should be yes, not sure if we can do that all on the ubuntu side or need to talk to android drivers at all19:58
pmcgowanrenato_: sorry about the use of EDS19:58
mutantkeyboardit's not a problem. I did some Android kernel programming.19:58
pmcgowanrenato_: did we determine we were ok staying with it19:58
pmcgowanmutantkeyboard: good maybe you can have a look19:58
renato_pmcgowan, not yet we are evaluating the akonadi19:59
mutantkeyboardthat's why I ask... I wanted to make an alarm app...19:59
pmcgowanrenato_: can you start a thread with lars on that then19:59
renato_pmcgowan, yes19:59
pmcgowanmutantkeyboard: sure, maybe work with the clock app project and add it in19:59
mutantkeyboardbrilliant, going to launchpad now19:59
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bfillerpmcgowan, mhall119 : we're evaluating use of eds on phablet as well as others, have not finished evaluation yet20:42
bfillerI'll touch base with lars20:42
pmcgowanbfiller: renato_ sent an email to the list I think20:43
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albanodesigndont know if this is the right place but i'm having black screen after installing ubuntu touch dauilys in my htc sensation anyone can help?20:47
mhall119bfiller: ok, can you update me, popey and the calendar coreapp team when you've picked something?20:49
bfillermhall119: for sure20:50
mhall119thanks20:51
rsalvetipmcgowan: don't think we have anything related with alarms yet20:59
rsalvetiwe might want to export that via the platform-api as well20:59
pmcgowanrsalveti: the dev who was on earlier is going to have a look21:03
rsalvetiright, cool21:04
x0g_hi everyone. I am looking for the perfect phone for ubuntu. The nexus 4 seems great but i think i need an hdmi out to connect to a screen right? or is it possible to use a usb-hdmi converter?21:06
rsalvetix0g_: it might be possible, something I also wanted to try21:08
rsalvetineed to get one converter to see what would be the effort needed for that21:08
rsalvetibut wanted to start looking at what would take to use my phone as a media center device (ubuntu tv later on)21:08
x0g_rsalveti : else, do you know any phone with hdmi? I would be a super raspberry pi21:09
rsalvetipmcgowan: which phone did you use when demonstrating UfA?21:09
pmcgowanits on the S3 and the Nexus 421:10
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rsalvetipmcgowan: with a usb-hdmi converter?21:11
pmcgowanrsalveti: yes the nexus 4 has a slimport and the s3 uses mhl21:12
x0g_pmcgowan : so it takes the mini usb but can i use a hub to connect a keyboard with it?21:14
rsalvetix0g_: probably, just not sure if it'd also charge at the same time21:15
pmcgowanI never saw the nexus 4 hooked up, but assume thats how21:17
x0g_so the nexus 4 seems to be the way to go21:17
achiango/21:19
pmcgowanachiang:  x0g_ had some qs on using hdmi21:19
achianghi x0g_21:19
x0g_hi achiang21:19
x0g_i was asking about how to connect a phone to a hdmi screen21:20
x0g_i was told about some mini usb hdmi converters21:20
achiangx0g_: the nexus4 uses a slimport adapter21:20
x0g_then i asked if a usb keyboard could be used in the same time using a hub21:21
achianghttp://www.amazon.com/SlimPort®-SP1002-Connect-connector--Supports/dp/B009UZBLSG/21:21
achiangx0g_: well you need usb OTG support for that to work21:22
achianglet me google the spec sheet to see if there is an OTG chip inside21:22
anuj5888achiang : check the comments on the amazon link21:22
anuj5888one review says they got it working straightaway21:23
anuj5888with nexus 421:23
achiangx0g_: looks like there is hardware support for OTG, so presumably enabling it in ubuntu touch would a simple matter of asking the kernel guys to turn it on (i haven't checked to see if it already is)21:23
achianganuj5888: what am i looking for?21:24
anuj5888customer reviews on that link21:24
rsalvetiachiang: otg should be on by default as it's required by android21:24
rsalvetididn't yet test with our current kernel, but I know maguro and manta had otg working when using the otg usb cable21:25
x0g_achiang : i assume that it's something working since they show the "turn you phone into computer" feature on the videos21:25
achianganuj5888: i'm not sure i understand your point. my team has purchased about 20 of those cables for the Nexus 4 and they all work fine21:25
achiangx0g_: rsalveti: we did a quick experiment of N4 => SlimPort Cable => OTG, and that combo broke down21:26
anuj5888achiang : oh ! my bad. I thought you didnt got it working with those cables :)21:26
rsalvetiachiang: got it, might need some more work at the kernel side then21:26
achiangx0g_: rsalveti: presumably N4 => OTG should be fine21:26
achiangx0g_: rsalveti: but we didn't test that21:26
achianganuj5888: we have it working with stock android, we haven't tested with ubuntu touch on N421:27
x0g_so it's either the keyboard or the hdmi but the both in the same time?21:27
x0g_but not both *21:27
anuj5888ah i see21:28
rsalvetiachiang: yeah, not sure if the usb cable from the slimport brings data support or just power21:28
achiangx0g_: depends on what OS you're talking about, but for android we only got OTG xor HDMI21:28
rsalvetiusb port I mean21:28
rsalvetin4 -> otg -> hub -> slimport + keyboard might work21:29
rsalvetibut not sure if the device will still charge in host mode21:29
achiangx0g_: if your goal is HDMI + peripherals, we have discovered that BT peripherals work pretty well21:31
achiang(again, on android, not ubuntu touch)21:31
x0g_achiang i am talking about ubuntu touch21:31
x0g_achiant BT = ?21:31
x0g_bluetooth21:31
x0g_ok21:31
x0g_yeah bluetooth could be the solution21:32
achiangi think BT support just recently landed in touch, like yesterday, no?21:32
rsalvetiachiang: yup, but just at nexus 7 at this point21:33
achiangah, ok21:34
x0g_but i guess it will work soon on nexus 421:35
rsalvetiyup, that's the goal21:35
melnaquibHello21:41
pmcgowanrsalveti: do you know where to see the osk reported size21:45
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rsalvetipmcgowan: I know maliit reports its size via the ubuntu_ui_report_osk_visible (platform-api) call21:51
rsalvetipmcgowan: do you just want to know the size or do you actually want to change that?21:51
pmcgowanrsalveti: just know it for a bug we are tracking21:51
ogra_rsalveti, do you know when it will learn non capital letters ?21:52
rsalvetiseems it should be at logcat, let me check21:52
* ogra_ finds that really disturbing21:52
rsalvetiogra_: I believe it's just a flag that needs to be disabled21:53
ogra_ah21:53
rsalvetiI remember the designers wanted to discuss that and take an action21:53
rsalvetiguess it didn't happen21:53
ogra_well, still some time til 13.10 :)21:53
rsalvetiI know we have a public bug for that already21:54
ogra_if enough people step on their toes they will sit down and discuss ;)21:54
pmcgowanogra_: we are working to get the other better keyboard plugin21:54
ogra_ah21:54
pmcgowanbut still need to convice design on the caps thing21:54
* ogra_ will not complain then 21:54
ogra_i know my mom wouldnt typwe a single letter on it but play with the shift key and give up at some point21:55
rsalvetiogra_: bug 115609921:55
ubot5bug 1156099 in touch-preview-images "Keys of keyboard are always uppercase" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115609921:55
* ogra_ metoos21:56
rickspencer3hey pmcgowan when I update my nexus7 each morning, should I use the "Upgrade to daily image" button, or the /!\Upgrade  to daily image (with full bootstrap) /!\ button?21:56
rsalvetiyeah, I find it very annoying as well21:56
rsalvetiit might be very easy to fix21:56
ogra_yeah21:56
rsalvetiI know because that was the default before :-)21:56
pmcgowanrickspencer3: just the image, dont need the bootstrap21:56
ogra_well, lets wait for the final thing ... and complain then if its still there21:56
rickspencer3it's annoying, but since that keyboard is a place holder, may was let it ride ;)21:56
rickspencer3though, would be nice to use the web browser on my Nexus 7 ;)21:57
pmcgowanrickspencer3: you have buttons?21:57
rickspencer3pmcgowan, dude, QtCreator integration21:57
rickspencer3it's amazing21:57
pmcgowanoh right I am so stuck on command line21:57
rsalvetipmcgowan: run adb logcat at your host, and then bring up the keyboard21:57
rickspencer3pmcgowan, http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2013/03/sweet-ubuntu-device-qtcreator.html21:58
rsalvetiI/ubuntu::detail::ApplicationManager(  167): virtual void ubuntu::detail::ApplicationManager::report_osk_visible(int32_t, int32_t, int32_t, int32_t)(x=0, y=812, width=768, height=468)21:58
ogra_pmcgowan, haha ... same here21:58
rsalvetiyou should see something similar21:58
rsalvetiyeah, flashing by pressing buttons is not something I'm very used with21:58
rickspencer3more specifically: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PMxhqDeHmqs/UUkCoUuFobI/AAAAAAAAAnY/XFw3FJ1usDs/s1600/Screenshot+from+2013-03-19+17:08:26.png21:59
rsalvetibut it's awesome that it works21:59
pmcgowanrsalveti: I dont see the dims21:59
rickspencer3rsalveti, well, all it does is run the command line tools21:59
rickspencer3opens a terminal and runs the command ;)21:59
rsalvetiyeah, imagined that :-)21:59
rickspencer3I'm just trying to have the whole Ubuntu Touch developer experience ;)21:59
rickspencer3the ssh button is really handy22:00
rsalvetipmcgowan: nothing with adb logcat?22:00
pmcgowanrsalveti: it logs but not x,y width height I can see22:00
rsalvetiyeah, might give it a try as well22:00
rsalvetievery time it comes up I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5635392/22:01
pmcgowanrsalveti: is that in the browser22:01
pmcgowanrsalveti: I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5635396/22:02
rsalvetipmcgowan: yup, gmail app22:02
rsalvetibut it should be at any app, as the log comes from the ubuntuappmanager22:02
rsalvetipmcgowan: mind pasting your logcat?22:02
rsalvetipmcgowan: that's weird, after a fresh boot?22:04
pmcgowanrsalveti: yep22:04
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pmcgowanrsalveti: tell you what, I will load the latest and do it again, then update the bug for osomon on the osk issue22:05
rsalvetiit works just fine with both manta and mako, using today's image22:05
pmcgowanrsalveti: this grouper is a bear22:05
rsalvetieven at the login screen22:06
rsalvetiI/ubuntu::detail::ApplicationManager(  132): virtual void ubuntu::detail::ApplicationManager::report_osk_visible(int32_t, int32_t, int32_t, int32_t)(x=0, y=932, width=2560, height=668)22:06
rsalvetilol22:06
pmcgowanit could explain why the keyboard doesnt work so well22:06
rsalveticould be22:06
krabadorwill ubuntu-touch have dpi settings in the way to support devices screen?22:07
rsalvetijezz, android takes ages to boot22:07
rsalvetikrabador: already does22:07
rsalvetibut currently it's not automatic yet, you need to set the preferred dpi for your device by hand22:08
pmcgowanrsalveti: your paste was from the nexus 4?22:08
rsalvetipmcgowan: yes22:08
krabadorogra_, do you've experiencing that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39413327&postcount=94 ?22:10
krabador*you're22:11
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ogra_krabador, i see the same issue on my SGS2, yes22:19
ogra_but i havent had time to look into it22:19
ogra_krabador, i guess seeing the two values more distinct would help :)22:22
krabadorogra_, yes i'm trying to set some value in the midle22:23
ogra_if you find some that work, let me know22:23
ogra_also try the the browser though22:24
ogra_QTWEBKIT_DPR has some massive impact on it22:24
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dank101maybe 1.3?22:29
rsalvetipmcgowan: any difference with mako?22:33
netcurlihas anyone here used the DefaultSheet or ComposerSheet from Ubuntu.Components.Popups yet?22:38
netcurlithe default width of these is bigger than my gnex screen, can I change the width somehow, or is this a bug?22:39
rickspencer3hi netcurli ... I think most of the components devs are european based :/22:41
rickspencer3it might be slow to get a response22:41
rickspencer3netcurli, I suppose you looked here:22:44
rickspencer3http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components-popups0-composersheet-members.html22:44
rickspencer3and tried contentsWidth and it didn't work :/?22:45
netcurlicontentsWidth seems to work. I expected it to only set the width for the content and not the popup itself22:50
netcurlithx22:52
netcurliit would be easier to use also, if it would not exceed the screen width by default22:53
rickspencer3pmcgowan, olli where could netcurli or I log a bug with this feedback?22:58
rickspencer3oops, wrong olli22:58
rickspencer3ogra_ (if you are still up, though probably you should not be ;) )22:59
ogra_haha22:59
ogra_should, yeah22:59
olliogra_, :)22:59
ogra_rickspencer3, netcurli , the only bug pool we have until all packages are in the archive is https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+filebug23:00
ogra_(as the channel topic says btw)23:01
rickspencer3ogra_, or https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit23:01
rickspencer3?23:01
ogra_if it has bugtracking enabled it will definitely land in the mailbox of the right people there23:02
rickspencer3it does23:02
ogra_then use that and they can sort the bug in the right place if its wrong there23:02
rickspencer3netcurli, would you be happy to log your feedback as a bug?23:03
rickspencer3https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+filebug23:03
Hashcodelol23:03
Hashcode #1132439 Android and iOS have majority of the phone market share23:03
rickspencer3oh boy23:03
HashcodeI didn't start that :P just sharing23:04
netcurlirickspencer3: I filed a bug against ubuntu-ui-toolkit23:11
rickspencer3thanks netcurli23:12
netcurlibtw: I am from Europe as well, maybe I should be in bed too :D23:12
ogra_we all should ...23:17
x0g_i have a question about ubuntu touch. How can i switch from "touch mode" to normal ubuntu (like desktop version). Is it possible?23:19
rickspencer3x0g_, so you have a device like an Nexus 7 or something, and you want to install the standard Ubuntu Desktop on it?23:20
rickspencer3I don't think anyone produces images like that anymore23:20
x0g_no i want to install the ubuntu touch but it seems to be able to turn into ubuntu deskop. At least that's what was shown in the videos23:21
rickspencer3x0g_, I see23:22
rickspencer3x0g_, that is still being feverishly worked on, but is not supported yet23:23
rickspencer3we call that the "convergent device"23:23
rickspencer3in the future, you can dock your phone and tablet and it turns into a desktop experience23:23
x0g_rickspencer3 oh i see. It's the best feature of ubuntu touch in my opinion23:23
rickspencer3x0g_, yeah, it's killer23:23
rickspencer3but will take some time to develop23:24
x0g_rickspencer3 yeah but what do you mean by docking? docking to the screen23:24
x0g_?23:24
x0g_since no other computer should be required23:25
rickspencer3x0g_, well, there will be various ways to connect it to keyboard, mouse, and monitor23:25
rickspencer3you could imagine, for example, a little 'dock' that you plug your phone into, like a charging station23:25
rickspencer3but it has desktop peripherals attached23:26
rickspencer3you could imagine a totally wireless solution as well23:26
rsalvetiboiko: the phone-app icon at the shell and hud are different now, is that expected?23:26
x0g_rickspencer3 that would be great. When do you think this featured will be available?23:28
rickspencer3x0g_, hard to say, but I would hazard a guess in time for the next LTS for sure23:28
x0g_you mean in 2014?23:30
rickspencer3yeah23:31
rickspencer3x0g_, however, there is also Ubuntu for Android23:32
ogra_and ubuntu for windows :)23:33
x0g_rickspencer3 what is different?23:33
rickspencer3x0g_, Ubuntu Touch is Ubuntu running on mobile devices, and tuned for touch and mobile experiences23:33
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rickspencer3Ubuntu for Android would let you run a Ubuntu desktop from an Android device23:34
x0g_rickspencer3 i see. And which one is will be released first? I only saw a dev version of ubuntu for phones23:39
rickspencer3x0g_, well, Ubuntu For Android requires a phone manufacturer to enable it ... so "stay tuned"23:40
x0g_rickspencer3 so it won't be compatible with current android phones?23:41
rickspencer3x0g_, well, that would be up to the phone manufacturer23:42
x0g_why does it depend on the manufacturer? can't we just install any os we want?23:43
rickspencer3x0g_, the manufacturer has to enable the device to run Ubuntu Desktop along with android23:45
x0g_rickspencer3 i don't really understand why but i believe you =) since i thought it was possible to make an os that would run ubuntu and android in the same time.23:49
rickspencer3x0g_, the trick is to let Ubuntu read the same files that Android uses23:49
rsalvetiogra_: seems ubuntu-session is finally working at all devices I have, will approve23:49
ogra_yay23:50
rsalvetikind of a pain to test with all devices23:50
ogra_yeah23:50
rsalvetiricmm: ubuntuappmanager keeps crashing from time to time when rebooting the device23:51
rsalvetiguess that old binder issue23:51
ogra_i'll send a mail to the ML tomorrow and update the wiki with new instructions23:51
x0g_rickspencer3 ok i see. Thanks for your answers. I am considering buying a nexus 4. I will switch another when ubuntu for android will come out i think.23:51
ogra_lets see if we can collect a little database :)23:51
rsalvetiogra_: yup, I can do that, don't worry23:51
ogra_k23:51
rsalvetias it'll land at today's image23:51
rsalveti"today" :-)23:52
ogra_heh23:52
* ogra_ waves from tomorrow23:52
rsalvetiyeah :-)23:52
rickspencer3rsalveti, quick q ...23:54
rsalvetirickspencer3: sure23:54
rickspencer3I'm trying to add a feature to QtCreator plugin that displays the build of Ubuntu on the device23:54
rickspencer3is there an easy command that I can run to get that?23:54
rickspencer3other than ssh'ing into the device and cat the file?23:55
rsalvetiogra_: happroved23:58
rickspencer3rsalveti, sorry, by "that" I mean, is there an easy command to get the name of hte build on the device23:58
rickspencer3?23:58
rickspencer3before I ssh onto the device and cat some file23:58
rickspencer3maybe that was the "hard way"?23:59

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