[01:56] Laney: Klout thinks my name is ??????? ??????. [01:56] * xnox loves having my name in UTF-8 on facebook and all APIs getting it wrong. [02:08] popey: ty sir! [02:08] Why is nobody asleep? [02:14] Oli: i;m just in from the pub [02:14] which is why i can;t seem to hit apostrophe successfully =| [02:14] ''''' [02:14] fs [02:14] On a school night? Whatever will the neighbours say? [02:15] i threw caution to the wind long ago === SDr is now known as NightCreature [04:53] Pangolins! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzKFeAge3o4 === Hornet- is now known as Hornet === knightwi1e is now known as Knightwise === NightCreature is now known as SDr [07:40] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1158163, well there's my contribution to this cycle [07:40] Ubuntu bug 1158163 in Unity "Shutdown and Log Out dialogue button order needs tweaking" [Undecided,New] [07:48] it was already fixed SuperMatt [07:49] https://plus.google.com/u/0/109365858706205035322/posts/JXdSmjCzw9L [08:04] just thought of a great idea for a program called "Advert Maker". [08:05] morning guys. [08:06] morning [08:07] * redtape-renegade writes the idea down in his "poss. programs 4 linux" before Sky steals it. [08:10] MartijnVdS: she's _adorable_ [08:11] * popey clicks subscribe [08:13] popey, looks quite frosty in yar garden today. I'll google .weather .. [08:15] http://goo.gl/Kxl17 [08:16] or..... [08:16] Farnham, United Kingdom: Mostly Cloudy, 38.5 F (3.6 C), 30.01(0), Feels Like: 35 F (2 C), From the NE at 4.6 MPH Gusting to 4.6 MPH - Last Updated on March 21, 8:13 AM GMT http://goo.gl/sY2GA [08:16] no frost.. http://popey.com/webcam/ [08:16] popey, but the green grass looks white to me >? [08:18] the webcam is low quality and everything has an odd tint [08:19] ok , ok then. [08:19] webcam has infrared sensors which are greyscale and that gets combined with the RGB visible light sensors [08:19] * redtape-renegade has coffee with some condensed milk ... [08:19] http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/cam/pad is also a bit white for the grass [08:20] and the fence needs fixing [08:20] AlanBell, I'll have a look in 23.5 mins. [08:20] hey AlanBell when you going to make my camera do that stuff? ☺ [08:22] .. and my wunderstation ? [08:28] Well, todays different. [08:29] I've just spent 5 mins in a heated discussion/barter to buy a park bench for £19GBP ... and he was Bulgarian. [08:30] First a mob of chaffinches .. then Uncle Bulgaia at the door, what next ? [08:30] **Bulgaria [08:32] Soz **Great Uncle Bulgaria ..nice chappy. [08:32] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wombles#Known_Wombles [08:33] popey: https://launchpad.net/camcontrol [08:34] camcontrol.py needs to be put on a webserver with mod_python [08:34] ooh! [08:34] I might add the bits to let it be called from the command line === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [08:35] it basically pokes at decoder_control.cgi on the camera for you [08:35] "This is messy" [08:36] it is [08:43] thanks AlanBell, will play with that later [08:47] ********************************************************************************************************4 [08:47] whoopsie .. put the netbook on the keyboard , soz [08:48] leaves. [09:00] popey: when did that happen? [09:02] I've found a good site to test Midori video's , today :: http://www.topacousticsongs.com/videos/archive-2/ [09:02] What will you be doing [09:03] ^ > ? [09:03] popey: ah, I see the issue! the lock button now needs to be moved to the other side [09:03] xnox: to be fair, that's what my brain does when it sees your name too :P [09:09] Happy World Down Syndrome Day, everyone! :-D [09:10] Just installed Google Keep on my S3 and looked at it in my Drive account. Don't think the Drive end is quite ready yet. [09:12] JamesTait, Where do you get these "days", /again/ ?? [09:12] redtape-renegade, wikipedia, mostly, though I knew about this one from other sources. [09:13] JamesTait, I asked forwebLinks, .. ?? [09:14] redtape-renegade, http://www.worlddownsyndromeday.org/ [09:14] thank-you. [09:16] redtape-renegade, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_21 for a list of others. [09:18] SuperMatt: no [09:19] Loved the news about Voyager 1 yesterday. Even though it hasn't really left the Solar System, the fascinating comment to me was "The next time the craft comes anywhere close to another star will be in 40,000 years" Just wow. [09:19] SuperMatt: logout and shutdown are on the right, lock and restart on the left [09:35] but I feel that lock should be on the right instead of logout [09:36] why? [09:36] I think people use lock a lot more, and because of the reason I've mentioned in my bug [09:36] if you chose "Log out" from the menu (which is what it's called" [09:36] I see what you mean [09:36] people don't use lock from that menu IMO [09:36] but I'm lookin at in terms of intention [09:37] whats the intention? [09:37] lock or logout? [09:37] the intent of shutdown is to walk away from your PC (most of the time), and that is also true of lock [09:37] if lock then you choose lock from the menu and it instantly locks [09:37] if you want to logout, choose logout [09:37] oh dang, I didn't spot that [09:37] you're right [09:37] for some reason I thought that lock button had disappeared [09:38] morning all :) [09:38] long time no see... :) [09:38] i dont think I've ever used that menu item [09:38] Ctrl+Alt+L is what I always use [09:38] I don't either [09:38] people vary though [09:38] I've got an issue with my graphics card (intel sandybridge built-in) on my laptop (acer aspire s3) [09:39] On my Log Out menu it says " Save session for future logins" in Xubuntu .. what does that do popey, SuperMatt ?? [09:39] I'm running quantal, I botched up the install of a new kernel by removing the wrrong initrd when trying to free up space in /boot [09:39] and now I'm stuck with my resolution at 1024x768 and can't modprobe i915 because it doesn't exist [09:39] can anyone help? [09:39] redtape-renegade: i dont use xubuntu, but I suspect it tries to build a list of what's running and restart those apps when you log back in [09:40] ProfFalken: reinstall the kernel? [09:40] popey, Right, I will give it a go :) [09:40] ProfFalken: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic [09:40] oooh, have't tried the generic one, re-installed using linux-image-$(uname -r)... [09:40] * ProfFalken tries it... [09:41] generic is a metapackage [09:41] will pull in the right linux-image-x.y.z === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [09:43] * ProfFalken reboots to try it... [09:45] popey: you is a star! that works really well, thanks :) [09:47] yay [10:03] Morning all === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g === dummy-bot is now known as dummy-sen [10:27] OOh The window cleaners are around :| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0E7IFM3GJc [10:27] Can I "cp *" but exclude "Thumbs.db" ? [10:28] good morning everyone, [10:29] brobostigon, Morning.. [10:29] morning redtape-renegade [10:30] brobostigon, OT| Why do window cleaners only take cash ?? [10:30] not a clue. [10:37] ours doesnt [10:43] directhex: hmvgrimsby didn't last long... [10:46] quit [11:19] Morning all [11:19] correct [11:19] czajkowski: PROD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just cause [11:20] popey, skype isn't in the software centre how do I install the package, again ? [11:20] davmor2: gee thanks [11:20] !skype [11:20] To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga [11:23] davmor2: how was the lug meet up [11:23] czajkowski: I know you've missed them, I just didn't want you feeling unappreciated [11:23] czajkowski: pretty good fun to be honest needed it [11:24] \o/ [11:24] * czajkowski cannot wait for friday 18:00 to come [11:24] I may fire my laptop into the garden [11:24] :) [11:25] czajkowski, Why's that [fri @ 6pm] ?? [11:25] no more VMs for a whole two days [11:25] why is the experience so bad? [11:26] Laney: bingo [11:27] Laney: czajkowski is on an ultrabook [11:27] * czajkowski goes back to doing peer reviews [11:27] czajkowski: oh by the way there may be a fix in precise 32 too now [11:29] ohhhh I need to select my peers [11:30] I thnk Amber Graner feels the brunt of it, thou [VM] | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1wVYZ7Md7qNvMnLraQIJeQ [11:32] Laney: Oh yes yes you do [11:42] oh no! === Hornet- is now known as Hornet === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:26] IIS is so annoying [13:26] Responds rapidly for the first few seconds then lags massively === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:09] Columbian Coffee and Condensed Milk (1/2 fat) in a mega mug : Does it get any better at two'sies ? [14:09] dwatkins, Ping [14:11] bigcalm: so how is onenote web for you? [14:11] Wish my Uni were running Linux servers [14:11] Having such a nightmare with IIS [14:18] davmor2: it seems to be working. Thanks for reminding me about it [14:18] bigcalm: no worries and does it do everything you need so you don't need ms? [14:19] davmor2: so far. I've only used OneNote for 3 days, so have no idea if it gives all of the features that I 'need'. I still have my windows server to hand though [14:47] hey there, anyone here using gma 3600 driver successfully? [14:49] I bought a netbook and it's unfortunately got gma 3600 gfx hardware, which is intel / powervr closed source and I'm having a nightmare getting it working under linux [14:50] ubuntu runs ok, it's just using gma 500 driver and everything is really slow [14:51] you may be out of luck. [14:51] i dont think anything has moved on that powervr driver [14:52] :-( there were some packages put in 12.04 multi but I couldn't even get those to work [14:52] poulsbo? give up. [14:53] i'm running 13.04, at least the screen is bright [14:54] I even tried the MeeGo distro to get the drivers working, but didn't like the OS at all [14:55] lol @ give up, this is a new netbook I've bought [14:56] What tools can I use to upload to a heavy loaded FTP server? [14:56] It's running IIS [14:56] It keeps corrupting my PDF file [14:56] Only half of each page will show [14:56] Authome Add-on for Chrome and FFox [ see the pictures ] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/kicktraq/ [14:57] kvarley, can you ssh to the account? might try copy that way [14:57] Artful: It's running IIS [14:57] So no [14:57] doh kk [14:57] adjust perhaps the timeouts on you local ftp client? [14:58] Artful: that might work [14:58] I'll let you know [14:58] try different times of day [14:59] It's for a uni submission which is due today lol [14:59] I had everything uploaded early except one file [14:59] And this one file is being a pain [14:59] last resort, zip it and try uploading that. a smaller file might get through [15:00] at least then it's uploaded [15:00] Needs to be PDF [15:00] No leeway on this kind of thing :( [15:01] does the connection drop, or is the file just always corrupt? [15:02] Artful: it ends the transfer then starts it [15:02] It's always been a terrible server even when it wasn't busy [15:02] redtape-renegade: eh? [15:02] kvarley: try using lftp [15:02] "Every operation in lftp is reliable, that is any not fatal error is [15:02] ignored and the operation is repeated. So if downloading breaks, it [15:02] will be restarted from the point automatically." [15:03] TheOpenSourcerer: Please can you give me an example command for how to upload a file from my home directory to it? [15:04] not the time but man lftp or google will help you. [15:07] You could also throttle the b/w it wants to use: http://cillian.wordpress.com/2006/04/04/throttle-bandwidth-used-by-ftp-on-linux-from-the-command-line/ [15:08] or just use tc to throttle all bandwidth, but that's not such a good idea, obv. [15:08] there's also 'trickle' which can run on a specific application [15:09] dwatkins, How's life in the new house, down there >? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === redtape-renegade is now known as redtape|coffee [15:13] It fails after 100kb === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:22] redtape|coffee: I don't have a new house, you must have me confused with someone else [15:23] dwatkins, Your not the islander ? [15:24] lol I just tried intel's linux gfx driver installer and it said I haven't a intel gfx card :-( [15:24] MartijnVdS, I fond my /dream car/ http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/cindyng/dream-car-0/ [15:25] **found my dr.. [15:27] redtape|coffee: what island? I live in Edinburgh [15:27] dwatkins, soz must be daftykins , sorry. [15:27] I'm also here only very sporadically, as my responses probably demonstrate, redtape|coffee [15:27] no worries [15:28] daftykins, ping [15:28] seems very random. [15:29] Myrtti, problem ? [15:32] How can I do explicit TLS when connecting to an FTP server via nautilus? [15:35] \join freegamer [15:35] whoopsie [15:45] kvarley: you mean sftp? [15:46] 'In FileZilla client this means prefixing the host with "FTPES://" for "explicit" FTPS, or "FTPS://" for the legacy "implicit" FTPS.' === alan_g is now known as alan_g|coding [16:05] FTPS != SFTP [16:05] FTPS is horribly client-dependent [16:05] and server-dependent [16:05] there are at least 4 ways to do it [16:16] FTP is dead [16:16] long life SFTP [16:16] *LIVE [16:34] OT Wolverine More4 9pm tonight [ 2009-film flashback ] .. not that I will get it on Xubuntu.12.10 [17:18] * redtape|coffee tucks into his Kingsmill 'crusts away' Beef Sarney. [17:22] redtape|coffee: yo [17:23] daftykins, Hi.. just having some tropical Lilt ;) Whatsup ? [17:23] :D [17:24] internet connection just enabled yesterday evening here in my new place [17:24] happy camper ? [17:24] been disconnected for weeks! :D [17:24] sure am [17:24] finally back \o/ [17:24] and got my lovely new 40Mb connection to boot [17:24] 4MB/sec downloads are very very welcome :> [17:24] Oooh. .. try www.londonist.co.uk to make yourself feel happier ;) [17:25] just about to reinstall my HTPC downstairs in the lounge with the latest XBMC www.xbmc.org [17:25] .. could be worse .. you could be in a flat in Romford :D [17:25] XD [17:25] that your domain? looks like a holding page ;D [17:25] daftykins, Yeah , I bought a Shuttle i3 last week , but it didn't boot ;( [17:25] hangon.. [17:25] :( gonna fix it up? [17:27] Whatwas I thinking ? Laandoner are too high and mighty to be in the United Kingdom .. It's http://londonist.com/ ;) [17:28] The shuttle ? .. I tried by buying a new HDMI cable , but I just gave up in the End .. got a full £150 refund thou :) [17:28] minus £14 return charges , so no real loss. [17:28] hehe [17:28] aww i love a good challenge [17:28] shame [17:29] anywho just burnt this XBMCbuntu CD, gonna go get cracking on installing it on my little ASRock Ion HTPC :) [17:29] It'll be back online and /they/ swear to me it does work if you want to keep a £150 shuttle I3 .. in the family ? [17:29] i need to buy more flash drives - so frustrating to keep juggling OS's on the same one [17:29] USB stix ? [17:30] yep [17:30] hehe ah i don't need anymore computers - trust me [17:30] got a shelf of my 2 old laptops [17:30] server, desktop, newest laptop [17:30] I'll try and send links your way .. what capacity ? [17:30] yeah, I'm using xbmcbuntu on my revo [17:30] working very nicely [17:30] HP touchpad [17:30] popey: 12 and 12.1 have made it soooo much easier eh? :D [17:30] i think i may still need to apply my own remote config [17:30] but that's ok [17:31] daftykins, I'll try and send links your way .. what capacity ? [17:31] popey: did you bother updating the nvidia drivers on the install? they seem perfectly capable [17:31] * redtape|coffee realizes his crum,pets are burn .. to the kitchen !!! [17:31] yeah, i have enabled remote control on my android and iphone [17:31] works nicely [17:31] yarr [17:31] daftykins: can't remember [17:31] my ASRock comes with a remote too though [17:31] i need to update it, not been done for weeks [17:31] nice! [17:31] infrared receiver on the unit [17:32] I'm using a Boxee remote [17:32] basically an MCE one, but naturally the button config isn't ideal out of the box [17:32] i change the 'teletext' button to become the subtitle on/off for example :) [17:33] redtape|coffee: ah i'd just browse my usual favourite websites for some to be honest. just i've been not letting myself buy anything not strictly necessary - due to house running priorities :D [17:33] * redtape|coffee crumpet crisis is averted ! [17:33] now i'm not sponging anymore i've rediscovered living is expensive ;) [17:34] yeah, i have a basic mce one I got off ebay i think :D [17:35] ah man so good to finally be reconnected [17:35] can finally work from home [17:35] and finally get more entertainment / play with my toys :> [17:35] heh [17:35] 67 [17:35] oops [17:36] alright back later, time to commence fiddling :) no doubt my xbox will need a dashboard update by now too... not that i use it much anymore! [17:37] daftykins, My shares rose by 25% today :) | http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MFX.L bye bye. [17:38] sell sell sell! [17:39] I did .. made 2.3k === alan_g|coding is now known as alan_g [17:44] daftykins, You could always try http://dx.com/s/htpc if you need a new thingyma-jig .. [17:45] my hp touchpad died today :( [17:45] err. | i.e. keyboard . [17:45] no charge, no life, nowt [17:46] mungbean, My sister got a samsung pad .. it's droid right ? [17:46] yeah redtape|coffee [17:47] not sure i can afford to ££ another [17:52] I bought a nexus 7 for a guy in Switzerland once .. just got this reply back saying ... item forwarded to addresse (??) [17:52] mungbean, tried a force reset? [17:53] oh no . not the summerschool PCWorld guy /again !!/ [17:53] my touchpad still works, although it occasionally needs to be forced to restart [17:53] leaves.. BRBack [17:54] everyone quits now ;( [17:56] directhex: tried power button and home key for 5/15/30 seconds [17:56] and also power/vol up/home [17:56] hm [17:57] came up with "conect the proper charger" message momentarily [17:57] last night [17:57] when i was trying to turn it on [17:57] so i could try to buy a new charger [17:57] or find a high power one that works [17:57] the charger still works on my phone [17:58] ther's a story about CM10 that if your tp gets to zero battery it can get bricked [17:58] but i had llama installed to poweroff at 5% [18:04] hmm nexus 10 = £319 ouch === alan_g is now known as alan_g|life [18:08] * MartijnVdS hopes the "next Nexus" rumours are true [18:08] (google i/o in may) [18:08] also another new android version. [18:09] yes [18:09] but I'm in need of a phone that does 4G _and_ is a Nexus ;) [18:09] hopefully also for my nexus7. [18:09] nexus7 will get any new android update for sure [18:09] :) [18:09] my Xoom won't :( [18:09] :( [18:09] MartijnVdS: isnt there a cm version, which will run on it? [18:10] brobostigon: probably, can't be bothered to look ;) [18:10] MartijnVdS: ah, i see. oh well. :) [18:10] if my touchpad is truly dead i will prob get a nex7 because i can't afford much more [18:11] watched bladerunner last night, was reminded about the nexus6 range ;) [18:12] nexus 7 will be cheaper in may I imagine [18:12] once the next nexus is announced [18:12] popey: only if it's a tablet. if it's a phone it might not decrease in price [18:13] hmm [18:13] so we've had nexus, 4, 7, 10, S, Q.. [18:13] * brobostigon likes his nexus7. [18:13] I bet it's Nexus X [18:13] Google didn't migrate things from the "Scratchpad" Chrome(OS) app to Keep [18:13] missed opportunity! [18:14] Fancy that. [18:14] http://www.google.com/googlenotebook/faq.html [18:14] popey: Scratchpad does use Drive (a special folder in it) to store its content [18:15] popey: the scratchpad app isn't gone, so I can copy stuff manually [18:15] when in may? [18:15] mungbean: https://developers.google.com/events/io/ [18:15] surely the nexus is the price it is due to the tech price? [18:15] May 15-17 [18:15] https://developers.google.com/events/io/ [18:15] bah [18:15] what's the new one? [18:16] mungbean: unknown, only rumours [18:16] hmm [18:16] mungbean: rumours are: (a) new nexus phone and/or (b) new nexus tablet to go along with (c) new Android version "Key Lime Pie" [18:16] not sure i could wait too long if my tablet is really shagged [18:17] since i have a newborn child and need to read at night to keep me awake [18:17] shame i don't know anyone with a touchpad so i can try their touchstone [18:18] wow.. 2 easter eggs on the i/o page found.. let's view source ;) [18:46] MartijnVdS, If you want to talk about Key Lime Pie you'd better ask jkeyes0 on the #twil ~channel who will gladly accommodate your discussion ;) [18:46] the correct format is definitely smb://IP/share/ isn't it? [18:47] XBMC gives me an instant timeout message if i try smb://IP/e$ for a Windows admin share [18:47] redtape|coffee: I'll wait it out [18:48] does anyone know any tools like repo and mr for managing superprojects? [18:55] ali1234, What like a lens or some project like that ? [19:02] hmm my HTPC can't connect to my windows file server shares [19:03] can anyone recommend a way to diagnose? i'm about to try using 'smbclient' in a terminal to try and access my shares [19:04] ah think i got it [19:05] server was throwing "protocol negotiation failed: NT_STATUS_INSUFFICIENT_RESOURCES" [21:39] irc.snoonet.org