[01:23] <k1lled> hello guys, i have a problem with ubuntu 13.04 alpha. I download and make a boot USB flash with 13.04
[01:23] <k1lled> and
[01:24] <k1lled> when show the menu to choose i click "live cd" to try but show a error
[01:24] <k1lled> for missing file, i dont remember a name
[01:24] <k1lled> at this file
[01:24] <k1lled> i try to "install on hard disk"
[01:24] <k1lled> but again - miss file..
[01:25] <k1lled> my laptop is with amd64 and i donwload this: raring-desktop-amd64
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> k1lled, That is really confusing, at least for me can you be a bit clearer
[01:28] <k1lled> wilee-nilee my english is bad... sry about that
[01:29] <k1lled> mmmm, well i try to start live CD 13.04 ubuntu
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> k1lled, NO problem I'm a bit slow as well. ;)
[01:29] <k1lled> well, what is not clear?
[01:39] <Guest88134> I am having some serious issues with the config files for Unity....  I use the LTS and Raring on the same machine using the same /home folder.... LTS works fine (though it boots much slower now) and Raring has not Unity panels, or gtk-window decorations.... anyone have any ideas of how to work around it?
[01:41] <Guest88134> I have removed the config files in ~/.config  and gotten it working... however it is only temporary.  I have a second user for testing purposes that works just fine.
[01:41] <Guest88134> currently I am using LXDE as my DE since Unity is messed up
[01:51] <Guest88134> I have no panels at all.  No window decorations.  Is there someway to fix this?
[01:51] <Guest88134> I have to open a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) and use gnome-session-quit to logout.
[02:02] <bcbc2> Guest88134: I wouldn't share home. Using an LTS and a development release with the same /home seems contradictory in nature. One is stable, the other unstable. Anyway, try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration
[02:04] <Guest88134> bcbc2: sort of contradictory.... but if April is right around the corner this will need a solution.  LTS to get work done normally and developmental to test things.  LTS shouldn't break the developmental release.... it seems
[02:05] <bcbc2> Guest88134: I wouldn't share a home between different releases either. I wouldn't assume that the config would match between releases.
[02:07] <Atlantic777> I keep getting warning for many packages that they can't be verified/authenticated. What's happening with that?
[02:08] <Guest88134> Atlantic777: I did too... I fixed it by changing from united states server to Main
[02:08] <Guest88134> bcbc2: Thanks for your help
[02:08] <bcbc2> Guest88134: np
[02:09] <bcbc2> Atlantic777: is it on a ppa or the normal package repos?
[02:12] <Atlantic777> bcbc2: normal packages
[02:13] <Atlantic777> And I wonder, what happens when 13.04 is released, I mean, in the early dev phase of 13.10.
[02:16] <bcbc2> Atlantic777: try this http://askubuntu.com/q/99936/14916
[02:17] <Atlantic777> bcbc2: it's not that error, I solved that.
[02:18] <Atlantic777> https://paste.lugons.org/show/GdVh0H8ge5vHvegbWqT7/
[02:21] <bcbc2> Atlantic777: have you gone through this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[02:24] <Atlantic777> bcbc2: no I have not.
[02:27] <Atlantic777> ok, that helped
[02:27] <Atlantic777> thanks bcbc2
[02:28] <bcbc2> Atlantic777: np :)
[02:28] <Atlantic777> I mean, switching to the main servers helped.
[02:28] <bcbc2> that seems odd
[02:29] <Atlantic777> btw, I was using us servers
[02:29] <bcbc2> I think that's what Guest88134 suggested
[02:29] <Atlantic777> yeah, and it's the first thing in the troubleshooting guide
[02:30] <Atlantic777> btw, I would like to bum this bug, but not sure how https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wicd/+bug/1132529
[02:30] <Atlantic777> i tested on 2 machines, the same problem, the same fix
[02:30] <Atlantic777> and with different images, one from 24. feb and another 20. march
[02:31] <MoPac> I'm hoping for some ideas on how I might diagnose what I think is a problem with Desktop Wall in Compiz.  With edge flipping functions enabled, the edge will flip only once after a login, and then never again.  It can be a pointer flip or a DnD or move, but after that one flip, it's as if the option isn't turned on
[02:32] <MoPac> (the flipping options are still checked in CCSM - there is no visible sign that the setting has actually reverted.  The edges just no longer work)
[02:45] <bcbc2> Anyone got mir to work? I can get the egl_mirtriangle to run, but computer boots to a black screen if I add 'type=mir' to lightdm.conf
[08:46] <vince__> hello
[08:52] <vince__> can anyone help me get 13.04 to show up in the boot menu along side 12.04.2 & 12.10?
[10:13] <Dreaman> http://picbg.net/img.php?file=c03dafd1d51f1a22.png  my ubuntu 13.04
[10:20] <alankila> This is mine: https://bel.fi/alankila/newfontrendering.png
[10:21] <Dreaman> :)
[10:21] <alankila> My experimentation with OS X -like but not as blurry font rendering technique is drawing to a close. I believe this is nearly production ready in sense that there are only minor tweaks to the algorithms required anymore.
[10:22] <Dreaman> my is win8 and ubuntu 13.04 boot :)
[10:23] <alankila> I have taken this alpha correction technique pretty much as far as it can go
[10:29] <Dreaman> http://picbg.net/img.php?file=32e6d98476f15f22.png
[11:24] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:46] <Ziggy> hello been trying to install 13.04 on my ssd disk and i cant get it to boot.... asus uefi bios can anyone pls help me out here i have 2 drivers sda this is user only as storage and sdb this is my ssd disk that i want to have ubuntu on
[13:48] <BluesKaj> !efi
[13:52] <Ziggy> iv tryed most of the stuff nothing works and if i run the boot-repair it just hangs on Reinstalling grub .....
[13:52] <Ziggy> anyone have any idea
[13:55] <Ziggy> brb reboot
[14:20] <ziggy> here is a logg from boot-repair >> paste.ubuntu.com/5637000
[14:21] <ziggy> i realy need help to get my installation to boot or some way to make a fresh install that works.... but i need to install os on sdb not sda
[14:24] <ziggy> iv tryed to install with the option to use the hole disk and i tryed making partitions myself nothing works.... now im booted in live on my usb stick
[14:27] <bjsnider> ziggy, i'd certainly look over all of the steps outlined on the wiki page. i also don't see why you have to have your storage disk be sda. can you not just switch the sata cables around, if that's the issue?
[14:28] <ziggy> i cant switch them.... warrantu issues if i do....
[14:28] <bjsnider> oh, gimme a break
[14:29] <ziggy> so you meen if i open it upp and switch them my warranty is still okej _
[14:29] <ziggy> ?
[14:29] <bjsnider> i've never heard of a warranty that included the positioning of the sata cables
[14:29] <iKillCypher> Hello guys is there a way I can get a pre-version of 13.04 ?
[14:29] <iKillCypher> and update it official when it is out
[14:29] <iKillCypher> using updater
[14:29] <bjsnider> i've worked for dell and hp and we never told people they couldn't open the systems up and change things
[14:30] <bjsnider> what the warranty said was, if you break it, it's your fault
[14:30] <ziggy> im no warranty expert thats why im asking
[14:30] <ziggy> okej then
[14:30] <bjsnider> the warranty said if it leaves the factory in a defective state, it gets replaced, not that you can't mess with it
[14:30] <iKillCypher> anyone ?
[14:30] <iKillCypher> o.o ?!
[14:31] <IdleOne> !patience
[14:31] <bjsnider> !daily
[14:31] <iKillCypher> so I need to install it everyday ?
[14:31] <iKillCypher> to get the latest update
[14:31] <bjsnider> of course not
[14:32] <bjsnider> updates are pushed out to you
[14:32] <iKillCypher> :(
[14:32] <ziggy> okej i will try to switch and unplug my storage disk totaly when installing
[14:32] <BluesKaj> iKillCypher:  you just update and upgrade everyday
[14:32] <ziggy> then i should create and efi boot partition right ?
[14:32] <ziggy> it
[14:33] <iKillCypher> using updater ?
[14:33] <iKillCypher> any changelog ?
[14:33] <bjsnider> ziggy, i recommend you read the wiki page. it does work, i am using an efi/ssd system right now
[14:33] <BluesKaj> the sofrtware updater or apt-get in the terminal, iKillCypher
[14:34] <bjsnider> iKillCypher, you're stressing out about this way too much
[14:34] <iKillCypher> lol yeah kinda excited
[14:34] <iKillCypher> :D
[14:34] <iKillCypher> wanna get rid of my windows
[14:35] <bjsnider> really. how will you let natural light into your house?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> iKillCypher:  have you run linux before ?
[14:35] <iKillCypher> nope
[14:35] <iKillCypher> but want to learn
[14:35] <IdleOne> then you don't want to start with a dev release
[14:35] <BluesKaj> then maybe you should dualboot
[14:36] <bjsnider> run a livecd first and then go from there
[14:36] <iKillCypher> why not ?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> !dualboot | iKillCypher
[14:36] <bjsnider> because it's really different than your current operating system
[14:36] <iKillCypher> I know o.o
[14:36] <IdleOne> because there is a good chance it is broken and you won't know how to fix it.
[14:36] <iKillCypher> but isnt it faster
[14:37] <bjsnider> faster, i doubt it
[14:37] <IdleOne> you should download 12.10 and try it on a live USB
[14:37] <IdleOne> !usb
[14:37] <bjsnider> could be more stable, depending on your hardware
[14:37] <rye> or inside a VM
[14:38] <iKillCypher> so what if I want to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 ?
[14:38] <iKillCypher> need redownload the iso and reinstall
[14:38] <iKillCypher> :(
[14:38] <bjsnider> might be faster if your system is loaded with crapware/bloatware
[14:39] <bjsnider> your ubuntu system will tell you there is a new version and ask you if you want to upgrade
[14:39] <bjsnider> it will then download the new packages and upgrade
[14:39] <iKillCypher> so my data wont be lost ?
[14:39] <bjsnider> of course not
[14:39] <iKillCypher> so it is possible to upgrade from 12.10 - > 13.04 ?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:39] <bjsnider> linux wouldn't be of much use if it destroyed your data during upgrades
[14:39] <IdleOne> iKillCypher: once 13.04 is released to the public, yes.
[14:40] <iKillCypher> nice :D
[14:40] <iKillCypher> cant wait
[14:40] <iKillCypher> lol
[14:59] <ziggy> well you can do it now... edit /etc/apt/sources.list and then do a apt-get dist-upgrade .... not recomended
[15:01] <iKillCypher> do you guys get paid for developing ubuntu ?
[15:02] <ziggy> bjsnider, i will read the wiki im just realy confused why it does not work now.... im gonna change my drives sata cables now.... brb
[15:03] <smartboyhw> iKillCypher, the Canonical employees do
[15:03] <smartboyhw> Others are just volunteers and are un-paid
[15:04] <iKillCypher> is it true that ubuntu is coded in c ?
[15:05] <smartboyhw> iKillCypher, not exactly....
[15:05] <smartboyhw> Lots of languages
[15:05] <iKillCypher> ok time to boot into ubuntu will be back later :D
[16:06] <captine> hi there.  anyone had all their accounts become unusable in 13.04 empathy?
[16:07] <captine> cannot see the account details and cannot delete what is there.  pretty strange (there are just blank spaces instead of the account names etc)
[17:19] <k1lled> hi guys, i make ubs with 13.04 alpha but i have a problem.... /casper/vmlinuz file not found. i make my USB flash with Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.2.5
[18:48] <johnjohn101> i see that there is a new 3.8.4 kernel for linux.  How do i know if 13.04 is running that kernel or any updated kernel?
[18:56] <genii-around> !info linux-image-generic raring
[21:24] <MoPac> Hi - I'm very interested to see if anyone else has seen anything like this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1158607
[21:26] <MoPac> Also, side note.  It appears that in the last couple of days, there has been a reversion in Compiz re: amnesia on keyboard shortcuts.  My shortcuts for Desktop Wall switching were finally working fine after reboot, and now they get reset to defautls every time
[22:08] <maxb> Is anyone familiar with unetbootin? It seems to fail to start for me on raring. Run as my user, it exits with no diagnostic info at all. If I sudo first, it hangs. From what I can tell from strace, it seems to be stuck trying to do something with dbus
[22:34] <Belial> empathy 's contact list is ridiculously large in 13.04
[23:32] <bekks> maxb: Use gksudo instead of sudo
[23:32] <maxb> bekks: The result is unchanged, it still hangs
[23:33] <Atlantic777> +1, I've got that problem with unetbootin too
[23:33] <Atlantic777> maxb: did you report a bug maybe?
[23:33] <maxb> Not yet, I was hoping to gather information more useful than "it hangs" first
[23:35] <Atlantic777> maxb: I think it's some problem with gksudo actually.
[23:36] <Atlantic777> Let's report a bug and maybe somebody will have idea what else to check. :)
[23:39] <maxb> Interestingly, I have two computers running raring, and it only hangs on one of them