| robru | cyphermox, ping | 03:01 |
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| achiang | ogra_: you left us all hanging before... what were you wrong about for 10 years? :) | 03:09 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:38 |
| pitti | Laney: can we / do you plan to sync glib2.0 from exp? | 06:47 |
| mhr3 | mvo, ping? | 07:46 |
| mvo | mhr3: pong | 07:53 |
| mhr3 | mvo, hey there, how are you doing? :) | 07:54 |
| mvo | mhr3: good, thanks! well, was sick in the last 2 days, but much better now. but overall good, thanks :) | 07:55 |
| mvo | mhr3: and you ? | 07:55 |
| jibel | good morning | 07:57 |
| mhr3 | mvo, eh, freezes... so crazy times :) | 07:57 |
| mhr3 | mvo, anyway, we wanted to ask about sc, we'd want to show all scopes in apps lens, what's the best/easiest way to achieve that? :) | 07:58 |
| mvo | mhr3: haha, of course! | 07:58 |
| mvo | mhr3: so the data-provider would need to send you this? and all scopes means all packages that provide a lens/scope (do we use the term scope?). | 07:59 |
| mhr3 | mvo, yea, basically we'd want to have it the xapian index (ideally as tagged with a separate category) | 08:01 |
| mhr3 | have it in* | 08:01 |
| mhr3 | mvo, and there's no more lenses in 13.04, everything is a scope now :) | 08:01 |
| mvo | mhr3: ok, how is it identified? is there something (name, category, tag, whatnot) to do this? | 08:01 |
| mvo | mhr3: aha :) | 08:01 |
| mhr3 | mvo, that's what i thought you could tell us :) | 08:02 |
| mhr3 | we can add whatever to the pkgs | 08:02 |
| mvo | mhr3: aha, cool, so you control it entirely? give me 2 minutes to look at the code etc to familiarize myself again | 08:03 |
| mvo | jamesh: welcome | 08:03 |
| mhr3 | mvo, sure | 08:03 |
| mvo | jamesh: <mvo> mhr3: aha, cool, so you control it entirely? give me 2 minutes to look at the code etc to familiarize myself again | 08:03 |
| mvo | jamesh, mhr3: it seems like the easiest option is to simply re-use the existing software-center.menu.in category for "dash search plugins" | 08:05 |
| mvo | that is currently using unity-lens-* as a pkgname filter | 08:05 |
| mvo | if you simply ensure that the unity-scope-* matches all your scope you should be fine | 08:05 |
| mhr3 | mvo, does that mean it's also query-able (wow is that a word?) in the db? | 08:06 |
| mvo | mhr3: you don't want to go through the db-provider? | 08:08 |
| mhr3 | mvo, plus i hope it wouldn't be a problem to do (unity-lens-* || unity-scope-*), cause i don't think we have time to do a bunch of renames now | 08:08 |
| mvo | mhr3: its querable directly in the DB as well, its just a bit quirky because of xapian special handling for "-" | 08:09 |
| mhr3 | there's a db-provider? what's that? :) | 08:09 |
| mhr3 | if that's some python class that we can't use that, cause we don't have python in apps lens/scope | 08:09 |
| mvo | mhr3: the data provider, for some reason I thought you guys would use that for the category stuff too, but I re-remember that you don#t,right? | 08:10 |
| jamesh | Looks like it would be pretty simple to put both names in the section | 08:10 |
| mvo | mhr3: the dbus thing | 08:10 |
| mhr3 | oh, iirc we use that just for previews | 08:10 |
| mhr3 | searches are done directly in the db | 08:10 |
| mhr3 | should be faster at least... we don't really have time to change that atm | 08:11 |
| mvo | mhr3, jamesh: indeed, give me some more minuts to draft a sample python query thing | 08:11 |
| mvo | I think the only quirk is that replace("-", "_") is needed as xapian handles the "-" speical (which is rather anoying) | 08:12 |
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| ogra_ | achiang, that debconf is authoritative | 08:22 |
| seb128 | hey desktopers | 08:23 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 08:23 |
| seb128 | happy friday! | 08:23 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 08:24 |
| seb128 | ogra_, still talking about timezones? | 08:24 |
| ogra_ | seb128, only answering pings :) | 08:24 |
| seb128 | ogra_, we should undo that "debconf is authoritative" | 08:24 |
| mvo | mhr3, jamesh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636330/ <- this should work if the scopes/lenses have desktop files you can leave line 4 commented otherwise you will have to query the a-x-i as well | 08:24 |
| seb128 | that doesn't seem right for a 21st century OS | 08:25 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey, alter! wie gehts? | 08:25 |
| mvo | hey seb128 | 08:25 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:25 |
| ogra_ | seb128, no, we dont need to ... as i said above, i was wrong for the last ten years .... slangasek explained to me that debconf should always adapt to the existing system settings (and apparently not everyone knows that) | 08:25 |
| jamesh | mvo: currently the scopes don't have .desktop files -- there are .scope files that are kind of like .desktop files but not quite | 08:25 |
| pitti | mvo! wie gehts? | 08:25 |
| mvo | seb128: not too bad, was a bit sick in the last 2 days, but much better now | 08:25 |
| mvo | hey pitti! | 08:26 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut | 08:26 |
| pitti | RAOF: upstart does dbus service activation now? I didn't know that | 08:26 |
| mvo | jamesh: we could extend the deskotp file extractor to read/add them, that wouldn't be too hard I think | 08:26 |
| * pitti vous donne beaucoup de accolades | 08:26 | |
| seb128 | ogra_, oh ok (I don't have "above", I close my client at night ... will read the irclogs.u.c log ;-) | 08:26 |
| jamesh | mvo: they are in keyfile format with Name and Description, so hopefully that isn't too difficult | 08:27 |
| mvo | jamesh: https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/archive-index/app-install-mvo/ <- this is doing the extraction magic | 08:27 |
| ogra_ | seb128, ah, i apologized to desrt ... and achiang asked what i was referring to :) (that caused my comment above) | 08:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, what do you mean by "upstart does dbus service activation"? isn't dbus doing dbus service activation? | 08:27 |
| * jamesh looks | 08:27 | |
| seb128 | ogra_, gotcha ;-) | 08:27 |
| mvo | jamesh: I assume the scopes have a fixed dir they go into? | 08:28 |
| jamesh | mvo: yes | 08:28 |
| pitti | seb128: I asked because I saw RAOF's reply on https://plus.google.com/u/0/107564545827215425270/posts/2yoaggm8Yth | 08:28 |
| pitti | but I don't want to make so much fuss on G+ about it | 08:28 |
| pitti | seb128: kdbus won't :) | 08:28 |
| ogra_ | well, dbus is overrated, lets do IPC | 08:28 |
| pitti | (not that this becomes relevant anytime soon, I was just wondering) | 08:28 |
| ogra_ | sokect and the like :) | 08:28 |
| ogra_ | *sockets | 08:29 |
| Laney | pitti: glib> yes, I've got that on my list - will look today | 08:29 |
| Laney | hoping we didn't sneak in any divergance | 08:29 |
| pitti | ogra_: you young guys with fancy IPC mechanisms! exchange text files! | 08:29 |
| ogra_ | pitti, you mean apps ahould just use the talk protocol ? yeah, good idea :) | 08:29 |
| pitti | Laney: I had a quick look at the changelog, didn't look like it; but a debian/ debdiff review is certainly in order; thanks! | 08:29 |
| mhr3 | mvo, jamesh, afaict we're talking about patching apps scope to query one extra db + modifying the query vs just modifying the query *and* changing s-c component, i think #1 is much simpler | 08:29 |
| mvo | mhr3: yeah, just the query is certainly easiest, please check out if that is suffient if not I'm happy to help with #2 | 08:45 |
| mhr3 | jamesh, could you ^, i'm fixing some other things | 08:45 |
| mhr3 | jamesh, it's all in unity-lens-applications src/unity-package-search.cc | 08:46 |
| jamesh | mhr3: okay | 08:46 |
| mhr3 | thx | 08:46 |
| pitti | seb128: btw, could you please install ubuntu-desktop and thus libpam-xdg-support again? that should uninstall libpam-systemd | 08:50 |
| pitti | seb128: and then verify that everything still works? I'm still running logind only while I'm busy with fixing the upstream world for the split | 08:51 |
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| chrisccoulson | good morning | 09:42 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? happy friday | 09:43 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, i'm not too bad thanks. how are you? | 09:43 |
| chrisccoulson | we've got snow again! | 09:43 |
| chrisccoulson | https://twitter.com/chrisccoulson/status/315012812156055552 | 09:44 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm good | 09:45 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, crazy weather this year | 09:45 |
| chrisccoulson | we have snowfall forecast for most of today and tomorrow | 09:46 |
| mhr3 | jamesh, fyi i'm pushing http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636475/ into apps lens | 09:53 |
| mhr3 | jamesh, well, the xapian define is important | 09:54 |
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| GunnarHj | seb128: Re bug 952185; actually there are two more tasks besides the openssh patch that need sponsoring: An at (ubuntu) MP and a gdm (precise) bzr branch. | 10:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 952185 in gdm (Ubuntu Precise) "~/.pam_environment not parsed by default" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/952185 | 10:32 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, the merge requests are picked by the sponsoring queue directly | 10:32 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: One MP. And no, since ubuntu-branches is not in the review list. | 10:33 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: And the other branch is not an MP, since there is no branch to merge against. | 10:34 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, shrug, that bug is a mess :-( | 10:34 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, if there is no mp can you add a debdiff to the bug? | 10:34 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: If only the sponsors were careful enough. ;-) | 10:34 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Can do that. | 10:34 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, thanks | 10:34 |
| popey | hmm, something squiffy with pulseaudio today. it keeps respawning after login | 11:22 |
| ogra_ | it is supposed to respawn ... | 11:23 |
| ogra_ | mor intresting would be why does it die | 11:23 |
| popey | well indeed | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | anything in ~/.xsession-errors ? | 11:27 |
| popey | bug 1078543 | 11:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1078543 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Raring) "[raring] Pulse audio fails to start with error 'Failed to open module "module-esound-protocol-unix": file not found'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078543 | 11:28 |
| popey | getting that | 11:28 |
| ogra_ | geez, why is that loaded at all | 11:28 |
| popey | no mention of pulse in xsession-errors | 11:29 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636659/ | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | got steam installed on a 64bit machine ? | 11:30 |
| popey | yes | 11:30 |
| popey | hmm, killed pulse and now it loads | 11:33 |
| * popey reboots | 11:33 | |
| popey | ogra_: aha! it respawns madly if you logout/login, not if you reboot | 11:55 |
| * popey files bug | 11:56 | |
| Laney | arrrrrr | 12:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, not liking the winter weather or....? | 12:15 |
| Laney | yeah, just arrived at blue fin - cold cold | 12:15 |
| seb128 | no lunch outside today then? ;-) | 12:17 |
| Laney | definitely not :P | 12:17 |
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| Laney | pitti: ah, we still have a glib diff for python:any BD | 12:41 |
| cyphermox_ | " good" morning! | 12:54 |
| cyphermox_ | Laney, I'm ready to upload evo 3.6.4 I guess | 12:54 |
| cyphermox_ | I can' t really do a build test though; I'm on a live CD | 12:54 |
| cyphermox_ | (for raring) | 12:54 |
| Laney | you sound supremely confident! | 12:54 |
| Laney | porter-amd64? | 12:54 |
| cyphermox_ | you are genius | 12:55 |
| cyphermox_ | oh wait | 12:55 |
| cyphermox_ | that's going to be some hoop jumping but yes I can do it | 12:55 |
| Laney | did your pc break or something? | 12:56 |
| cyphermox_ | yeah | 12:56 |
| cyphermox_ | BOTH. | 12:56 |
| Laney | :/ | 12:56 |
| cyphermox_ | one won' t boot, the other's SSD freezes up all the time | 12:56 |
| cyphermox_ | I got disk errors | 12:56 |
| cyphermox_ | sitting in a cafe right now, on a live cd on my laptop, waiting for the parts shop next door to open | 12:56 |
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| Laney | oh man, brutal | 12:58 |
| pitti | Laney: ah that; damn Debian freeze :) | 12:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, sorry, forgot to reply to your ping this morning, installing ubuntu-desktop didn't bring libpam-xdg-runtime in, I guess that's only a recommend? in any case I swapped back, will let you know if I find any issue | 13:03 |
| pitti | thanks | 13:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw, what was the status of langpacks? wgrant said the other day you guys sorted it out and you were going to trigger an update ... is that correct? | 13:20 |
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| mterry | didrocks, so how does the privacy control ("remote-content-search") for scopes work in the new smart scope world? | 13:43 |
| didrocks | mterry: it will stay the same | 13:44 |
| didrocks | mterry: and disable the smart scope service | 13:44 |
| didrocks | so no talk to the server | 13:44 |
| didrocks | mterry: btw, yesterday you relaunched the unity stack, but didn't publish it (it was in manual publishing mode) | 13:44 |
| didrocks | mterry: we had a lot of tests failing during this daily release this night. I bet for a service crashing/flacky tests and seb128 reran them (still running on some arch) | 13:45 |
| mterry | didrocks, ugh, whoops | 13:45 |
| didrocks | mterry: do you mind publishing them (they will be in manual publishing mode still because some upstream stacks are in manual publishing) | 13:45 |
| mterry | didrocks, I saw that he did, yeah. ati had a lot of failures, it's usually reliable | 13:45 |
| davidcalle | mterry, on top of that, all scopes have a RemoteContent true/false field in their .scope file. To ensure even local non-recommended scopes are blocked. | 13:46 |
| mterry | didrocks, after they finish sure | 13:46 |
| didrocks | mterry: thanks! also there is one compiz regression | 13:46 |
| didrocks | one sec… | 13:46 |
| didrocks | bug #1158161 | 13:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1158161 in Compiz "[regression] Unmaximized windows can't be closed, minimized, moved" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1158161 | 13:46 |
| didrocks | mterry: ^ | 13:46 |
| didrocks | would be good to get a fix in | 13:46 |
| mterry | davidcalle, so if there is a RemoteContent=true field, and that preference is turned off, the scope won't be used? | 13:46 |
| jcastro | /msg didrocks argh this new dash. | 13:47 |
| didrocks | mterry: sam has a fix in lp:compiz (not lp:compiz/raring) | 13:47 |
| didrocks | jcastro: :) | 13:47 |
| jcastro | :) | 13:47 |
| didrocks | mterry: but the description is not encouraging | 13:47 |
| jcastro | so this lag inbetween each character typed, is killing me | 13:47 |
| didrocks | jcastro: yeah, there is a bug for the searching on each keystroke | 13:47 |
| didrocks | which is doing that… | 13:48 |
| mterry | didrocks, you mean the "such a disaster" line? :) | 13:48 |
| didrocks | mterry: rather "I have no idea why it does. Scary." | 13:48 |
| mterry | didrocks, OK, who is managing the compiz/raring branch? They should review the code | 13:49 |
| didrocks | mterry: well, nobody since duflu is working on something else :/ | 13:49 |
| didrocks | mterry: so basically, you? (surprise surprise!) :-) | 13:49 |
| mterry | hmm | 13:49 |
| didrocks | mterry: sil2100 has some knowledge of compiz | 13:49 |
| didrocks | not sure in that area of the code though | 13:50 |
| mterry | change seems simple enough | 13:50 |
| didrocks | yeah, we can try just confirming it's fixing it | 13:50 |
| didrocks | and having someone playing with the decorator | 13:50 |
| didrocks | it's reproducible 100% of times | 13:50 |
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| ritz__ | cyphermox hi, sorry to bug you, does the sru request look fine ? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1116317 | 13:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1116317 in network-manager-applet "Needs option to create user connections by default" [Wishlist,In progress] | 13:52 |
| mterry | didrocks, will test myself and file MR for it when I confirm. Then maybe you can approve for landing | 13:53 |
| didrocks | mterry: thanks a lot | 13:53 |
| didrocks | mterry: yep, I will just trust your words :) | 13:53 |
| sil2100 | didrocks, mterry: I checked the code, but didn't build-test it yet | 13:54 |
| * sil2100 was lunching | 13:54 | |
| sil2100 | For Sam's fix | 13:54 |
| didrocks | thx sil2100! | 13:56 |
| mterry | didrocks, so... this RemoteContent field for scope files. If the user has set privacy to ON, a RemoteContent=true scope won't be used? | 13:56 |
| didrocks | mterry: basically, the scope will be started | 13:56 |
| didrocks | but will look at this privacy key | 13:57 |
| didrocks | and if it's set to ON | 13:57 |
| didrocks | it won't look | 13:57 |
| sil2100 | I'll backport it to raring later ;p | 13:57 |
| didrocks | also, the smart scope won't set your search on the server | 13:57 |
| davidcalle | didrocks, that's the old way. Unity will decide to start it or not. | 13:57 |
| didrocks | davidcalle: right, but some will still be started | 13:57 |
| mterry | didrocks, but only those with RemoteContent=false? | 13:57 |
| didrocks | like the music remote and photo remotes | 13:57 |
| didrocks | right davidcalle? | 13:57 |
| mterry | didrocks, those may look at the preference key to optionally use remote sources? | 13:58 |
| davidcalle | didrocks, right, these ones, since they have the "always-running" dconf-key check internally. | 13:58 |
| didrocks | yep | 13:58 |
| didrocks | so it's a combination of both :) | 13:58 |
| mterry | so always-running -> looks at key; RemoteContent=false -> looks at key; RemoteContent=true -> not even started if privacy on | 13:59 |
| mterry | didrocks, davidcalle ^ ? | 13:59 |
| didrocks | mterry: almost ;) (RemoteContent=false won't look at the key as they don't search for remote content…) | 14:00 |
| davidcalle | mterry, remotecontent false don't need to look at the key at all. But yes. | 14:00 |
| mterry | didrocks, davidcalle: what about a scope that looks at local as well as remote content? | 14:00 |
| didrocks | mterry: they are separate scope | 14:00 |
| didrocks | under the same master scope | 14:00 |
| mterry | ah... hm | 14:00 |
| didrocks | but separate scope | 14:00 |
| mterry | didrocks, so MIR wise, launchpad and sshsearch scopes use python2 and thus are icky. Would you be super sad if they weren't installed by default? | 14:01 |
| didrocks | mterry: I think the executive decision is to install all of them by default, regardless of the technology | 14:02 |
| didrocks | launchpad is python2 because of launchpadlib | 14:02 |
| davidcalle | mterry, that would be unfortunate to have github without launchpad, but paramiko and liblaunchpad are the bad guys. | 14:02 |
| didrocks | not sure about why sshsearch is | 14:02 |
| mterry | didrocks, paramiko | 14:02 |
| didrocks | ok paramiko :) | 14:02 |
| mterry | MIR doesn't care *why* | 14:03 |
| mterry | MIR's answer is port liblaunchpad (why isn't that ported yet!) | 14:03 |
| mterry | didrocks, but you think there's an override in effect here | 14:03 |
| didrocks | mterry: right | 14:03 |
| davidcalle | mterry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/lazr.authentication/+bug/1007437 | 14:04 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1007437 in lazr.authentication "Support Python 3" [Undecided,New] | 14:04 |
| mterry | Well, in those two cases (liblaunchpad, paramiko), other desktop stuff needs those to be ported. So adding a couple lenses to that pile isn't the worst. When we get serious about python3, we can consider either porting what we need or dropping these lenses | 14:05 |
| mterry | Adding a couple lenses for now won't hurt | 14:05 |
| didrocks | mterry: agreed | 14:06 |
| didrocks | launchpadlib in python3 would be great as a lot of our tool are depending on that | 14:06 |
| mterry | davidcalle, another question. I see some questionable copy-paste code it looks like. In musique, audacious, clementine, gmusicbrowser, and guayadeque: | 14:06 |
| mterry | if model.get_value(iteration, 1) == "musique": | 14:06 |
| mterry | image = "file:///usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/audacious.svg" | 14:06 |
| mterry | This is in the preview code | 14:06 |
| mterry | didrocks, and everything seems to depend on gir1.2-dee-1.0 but not actually use it? not a MIR blocker, but just odd | 14:07 |
| davidcalle | mterry, these previews haven't been ported to the new api, afaik. | 14:07 |
| didrocks | mterry: right, we removed on some | 14:08 |
| didrocks | mterry: not all though, but I plan to do that | 14:08 |
| mterry | davidcalle, so that's dead, unused code right now? | 14:08 |
| mterry | davidcalle, is porting to new preview code planned for raring? | 14:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey | 14:09 |
| davidcalle | mterry, so this code is not actually used yet. It will be in a few days I hope, I've updated the maintainer on the new preview API last night (it has landed a few days ago). | 14:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you have special translation foo on launchpad? | 14:09 |
| davidcalle | mterry, planned for raring. | 14:09 |
| mterry | k | 14:09 |
| mterry | davidcalle, thanks | 14:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, like, can you change https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/hud/+imports to "approved"? | 14:10 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, hey, ^ | 14:10 |
| mterry | didrocks, aha! sshsearch says RemoteContent=false and then checks the key ;) | 14:11 |
| didrocks | should be RemoteContent=true | 14:11 |
| didrocks | davidcalle: ^ | 14:11 |
| didrocks | hum | 14:11 |
| didrocks | no, it should be false | 14:11 |
| didrocks | but no need to check the key | 14:11 |
| didrocks | mterry: it's extra-picky :p | 14:11 |
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| mterry | didrocks, davidcalle: well, with those concerns, MIR seems fine for this set | 14:14 |
| didrocks | mterry: you did see the home scope code as well, right? | 14:15 |
| didrocks | mterry: as it's the only one which is different from others | 14:15 |
| davidcalle | mterry, that's unfortunote for the sshsearch mistake, but GREAT for the MIR, thanks! :) | 14:15 |
| mterry | didrocks, no, it wasn't in the list of new packages. | 14:15 |
| mterry | oh yeah it was | 14:15 |
| didrocks | hum, sure? | 14:15 |
| mterry | just a different list | 14:15 |
| didrocks | mterry: right :) | 14:15 |
| mterry | didrocks, OK, will look | 14:16 |
| didrocks | mterry: it's a none boring one | 14:16 |
| mterry | didrocks, yay? | 14:16 |
| didrocks | mterry: and you know what? you can directly bother pstolowski and mhr3 for it :p | 14:16 |
| didrocks | mterry: it's the smart scope service | 14:16 |
| didrocks | so agregatting all data per master scope | 14:16 |
| didrocks | agregatting the home dash | 14:17 |
| didrocks | and sending data to the server | 14:17 |
| didrocks | a nice playfield! :) | 14:17 |
| rickspencer3 | hey didrocks, seb128 what's the word on the street regarding new dash? looking good today? | 14:27 |
| rickspencer3 | (I haven't dist-upgraded yet today) | 14:27 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: if you dist-upgrade now, you will get the in dash payment as well | 14:27 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: some fixes, still some work to do, I hope to process a rebuild tonight and have the friends scope | 14:27 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, so you think dash payment will land? | 14:28 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: well, at least, it's now in the ppa, QA on OLS gave their +1 on their testing on it with the 100scopes | 14:29 |
| didrocks | the merge reviews have been acked | 14:29 |
| didrocks | so it's a question of testing | 14:29 |
| didrocks | there are still some cases where they are unclear about | 14:29 |
| didrocks | like if you card expire, no feedback | 14:29 |
| didrocks | so they are trying to figure out that | 14:29 |
| didrocks | and they need the +1 on the FFe bug from Mark | 14:29 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, seb128 said something about sabdfl asking for ppa testing or something first | 14:29 |
| rickspencer3 | did all that happen? | 14:29 |
| BigWhale | Hmmm... Alt+Right Click on a window is captured by Unity and not sent to the application. Can this be disabled? | 14:29 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: it's just what happen? | 14:29 |
| didrocks | see my: | 14:29 |
| didrocks | 15:27:25 didrocks | rickspencer3: if you dist-upgrade now, you will get the in dash payment as well | 14:30 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: that's what I'm working on for the past few days, sees the email you were CCed :) | 14:30 |
| didrocks | so as told in those emails | 14:30 |
| czajkowski | seb128: you pinged? | 14:30 |
| didrocks | we can start testing in the ppa | 14:30 |
| didrocks | we have an easy revert path | 14:30 |
| didrocks | in case things are not ok or mark didn't +1 | 14:30 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, yeah, I saw that, I just didn't know if it was specifically what sabdfl asked for | 14:31 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, hey | 14:31 |
| rickspencer3 | (after a short chat with seb128 last night) | 14:31 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1154176/comments/13 | 14:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1154176 in unity "[FFE] Add payment preview for music" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 14:32 |
| didrocks | this is why it's in the experimental ppa | 14:32 |
| rickspencer3 | ok, I understand now | 14:32 |
| cyphermox_ | hey mterry | 14:34 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, sorry if what I said yesterday didn't make sense/was lacking details | 14:34 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, it's all ok | 14:34 |
| rickspencer3 | lol | 14:34 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 14:34 |
| rickspencer3 | I was just asking | 14:34 |
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| mterry | cyphermox_, hi, what's up? | 14:35 |
| cyphermox_ | heh | 14:35 |
| mterry | didrocks, home scope c/r/p's some lenses. It c/r's asklibreoffice, but doesn't p it. Intentional? | 14:43 |
| didrocks | mterry: hem, I was testing you :) | 14:44 |
| didrocks | mterry: want to MP for it? ;) | 14:44 |
| mterry | k | 14:44 |
| mterry | didrocks, I'll just push | 14:45 |
| didrocks | mterry: ok ;) | 14:45 |
| didrocks | mterry: don't break an in-process merge though | 14:45 |
| mterry | guh fine :) | 14:45 |
| mterry | didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity-scope-home/missing-p/+merge/154973 | 14:48 |
| cyphermox | ritz__: hey, yeah it looks fine, just won't be exactly that patch | 14:48 |
| ritz__ | cyphermox, thank you :) | 14:49 |
| ritz__ | cyphermox, also, lp#965895, sru filled, with the debdiff | 14:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, unping about hud template approval, got it done | 14:50 |
| ritz__ | cyphermox, TIA | 14:50 |
| ritz__ | let me know, if anything needs to fixed | 14:50 |
| ritz__ | seb128, ty :) | 14:50 |
| ritz__ | gn folks :) | 14:51 |
| cyphermox | dah, why did he leave so quickly :( | 14:51 |
| mterry | didrocks, seems like that privacy switch is not coded yet? Bug 1158782 seems to think not, and I don't see RemoteContent in the home scope source | 15:00 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1158782 in unity (Ubuntu) "When privacy switch is on don't query client scopes with RemoteContent=true" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1158782 | 15:00 |
| mterry | seems problematic | 15:00 |
| didrocks | mterry: no, it's in progress :) | 15:01 |
| didrocks | but noted | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, yay... i see results in the friends lens from jamesh's branch :) | 15:04 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, i see you played with it a bit | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | it's using the wrong renderer | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | but it's something :) | 15:05 |
| didrocks | yeah ;) | 15:05 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: do you mind switching to the right renderer? | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | is that a bug or something that doesn't exist anymroe? | 15:05 |
| didrocks | if you have time | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | sure | 15:05 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: I don't think so | 15:05 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: open a bug against unity | 15:05 |
| didrocks | (upstream) | 15:05 |
| didrocks | 100scopes | 15:05 |
| didrocks | for tag | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, so it is using HORIZONTAL_TILE, you're saying you think that might just be a bug in unity right? | 15:07 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: yeah, probably | 15:08 |
| mdeslaur | didrocks: quick question: what creates the "unity" compiz profile when a user logs in? | 15:17 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, your computer does | 15:19 |
| seb128 | :p | 15:19 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: oh! that would explain it :) | 15:19 |
| mdeslaur | hehe | 15:19 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: do you know the answer? | 15:19 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, the answer is "that's more complex that it should be" | 15:20 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, there is a profile copy on first login iirc | 15:20 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, for some reason which have to do with compiz having a backend for your storage backend | 15:20 |
| seb128 | like cpp->gconf/gsettings/ini | 15:21 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, what are you trying to figure out? | 15:21 |
| mdeslaur | I am trying to enforce default gsettings for unity...but creating gschema.override file only seems to affect the "Default" compiz profile | 15:22 |
| mdeslaur | so I'm trying to figure out what exactly is creating the "unity" compiz profile | 15:22 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, try asking on #ubuntu-unity, sil2100 probably knows the details | 15:35 |
| mdeslaur | thanks seb128 | 15:35 |
| pitti | seb128: langpacks> yes, I'm waiting for the first LP export, then I can build them | 15:44 |
| pitti | seb128: I can't approve imports or translations | 15:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, launchpadlibrarian.net/134834696/ubuntu-raring-translations.tar.gz | 15:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, isn't that the export? | 15:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's listed on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+language-packs | 15:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, or do you need something else? | 15:46 |
| pitti | oh, nice! | 15:46 |
| pitti | no, that's it | 15:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, great ;-) | 15:46 |
| pitti | seb128: it's not cron'ed yet, as the first (full) build needs some special care | 15:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok | 15:49 |
| pitti | seb128: I started the build of the packages now | 15:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke! | 15:50 |
| pitti | seb128: I guess I won't get to testing/uploading them before Monday, though | 15:50 |
| seb128 | we will maybe have updated translations in raring :p | 15:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, just discovered today that quite some templates are outdated in raring | 15:50 |
| pitti | our in-laws are visiting over the weekend (they are already here), so I won't be able to steal away much for computer stuff | 15:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, no worry, you shouldn't work in the W.E! no hurry as well, can wait next week | 15:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, we need to figure how to make rosetta import the .pot from the daily build ppas, we overlooked that part with the daily landing | 15:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, I guess didrocks will talk to you about that | 15:52 |
| pitti | oh, we don't grab the translation tarballs from that, I suppose | 15:52 |
| pitti | bad | 15:52 |
| didrocks | yeah, but in a call :) | 15:52 |
| seb128 | yeah, that sucks | 15:52 |
| pitti | so we need to enable pkgbinarymangler in those PPAs, and teach LP to look at those | 15:53 |
| seb128 | and we didn't have updates langpacks to say "hold on, my translations are uptodate, how much unity is not translated" | 15:53 |
| seb128 | I just noticed today while checking something else | 15:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, seems about right | 15:53 |
| seb128 | well, not before next week in any case | 15:53 |
| seb128 | friday 5pm is not the time to start figuring that out ;-) | 15:54 |
| seb128 | no hurry as well, we did manual uploads or updated .pot meanwhile | 15:54 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, autopilot question | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | 11:49:59.775 WARNING __init__:197 - Caught exception while searching for autopilot interface: 'DBusException("Could not get PID of name 'org.freedesktop.DBus': no such name",)' | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | what do you think could be causing that? | 15:55 |
| greyback | anyone have any idea why I have no messaging indicator in my panel? | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | it continues to timeout while trying to find the object | 15:56 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine: no clue | 15:56 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine: ask mzanetti in #ubuntu-unity | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, can you point me to an example of anything using it? | 15:56 |
| cyphermox | I really only did the packaging ;) | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | i just used qtcreator to add autopilot tests to my project :) | 15:56 |
| cyphermox | (actually, the packaging review) | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | ok | 15:56 |
| cyphermox | mzanetti has a branch ready to land for autopilot-qt test examples, give me a second | 15:57 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/autopilot-qt/add-tests/+merge/153695 | 15:57 |
| cyphermox | that might be good examples | 15:57 |
| seb128 | greyback, is indicator-messages installed? | 16:00 |
| seb128 | greyback, is that a new install? | 16:00 |
| greyback | seb128: yep, package installed. It's an upgrade, but it was missing in quantal for me too, somehow | 16:00 |
| seb128 | greyback, I think the new design makes it being hidden until you start/configure an app using it | 16:01 |
| seb128 | greyback, e.g empathy, xchat(-gnome), tb... | 16:01 |
| greyback | seb128: I've Empathy running, I'll look into its settings. | 16:01 |
| greyback | indicator-messages-service is running... | 16:01 |
| seb128 | greyback, larsu can probably help you | 16:01 |
| greyback | seb128: ok thanks! | 16:02 |
| seb128 | yw | 16:02 |
| greyback | i'm loving the new icons, they're gorgeous | 16:02 |
| seb128 | greyback, oh, random comment, empathy by itself doesn't integrate to the indicator-messages, you need telepathy-indicator | 16:08 |
| seb128 | greyback, just in case you don't have this one installed for some reason | 16:08 |
| greyback | seb128: yep I have that too | 16:08 |
| seb128 | larsu, ^ help :p | 16:09 |
| greyback | I'll wait for larsu :) | 16:09 |
| larsu | greyback: hey :) Are indicator-messages-service and telepathy-indicator running? | 16:11 |
| larsu | and do you have at least one account set up in empathy? | 16:11 |
| greyback | larsu: yes, yes and yes | 16:12 |
| larsu | interesting..... | 16:12 |
| larsu | what does `gsettings get com.canonical.indicator.messages applications` give you? | 16:13 |
| greyback | larsu: ['gwibber.desktop', 'empathy.desktop', 'thunderbird.desktop', 'redditredditcom.desktop', 'telephony-app.desktop', 'telephony-app-sms.desktop', 'telephony-app-phone.desktop', 'GMailmailgooglecom.desktop', 'xchat.desktop'] | 16:14 |
| larsu | and you don't see the messaging menu at all? | 16:14 |
| larsu | this is weird... | 16:14 |
| greyback | nope, sorry. I've not seen it for some time actually. In quantal too :( | 16:14 |
| seb128 | greyback, that's standard unity, not your own hacked version, right? ;-) | 16:15 |
| larsu | seb128: lol | 16:15 |
| greyback | seb128: it's all legit :) | 16:15 |
| seb128 | larsu, well, unity-2d hacker, you never know :p | 16:15 |
| greyback | :D | 16:15 |
| larsu | greyback: so I guess you've already restarted the messaging service? (if only by restarting your machine) | 16:16 |
| seb128 | greyback, I guess it's not there if you keyboard navigate left/right? (e.g not an icon issue)? | 16:16 |
| greyback | larsu: I killed the process, I think it respawned | 16:16 |
| larsu | yeah, that's what it does | 16:16 |
| seb128 | greyback, I mean if you you open another indicator and do left/right | 16:16 |
| greyback | seb128: good idea. Checking, it's definitely not there | 16:16 |
| seb128 | it's not opened on the way at some point? | 16:16 |
| seb128 | k... | 16:17 |
| greyback | uh oh, version "12.10.6+bzr340+pkg0~quantal1" looks very wrong | 16:18 |
| greyback | for indicator-messages | 16:18 |
| greyback | must be an old PPA breaking everything. Feck, sorry guys | 16:18 |
| larsu | greyback: just to be sure it's not the panel's fault: install libindicator3-tools and do `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-loader3 /usr/lib/indicators3/7/libmessaging.so` | 16:18 |
| larsu | OH | 16:18 |
| larsu | yeah, upgrade to a new version first, please ;) | 16:18 |
| greyback | I'm just surprised an old quantal version wasn't replaced by raring | 16:19 |
| seb128 | greyback, buggy ppa versioning :-( | 16:21 |
| seb128 | greyback, we are on 12.10.6daily | 16:21 |
| greyback | seb128: so I see yes. | 16:22 |
| seb128 | greyback, just sudo apt-get install indicator-messages/raring | 16:22 |
| seb128 | greyback, you might want to "dpkg -l | grep ~quantal" | 16:22 |
| greyback | seb128: I'm doing a PPA purge too, just to be safe | 16:22 |
| larsu | seb128: ooh, I didn't know about this syntax | 16:22 |
| seb128 | in case you have other packages in the same state | 16:22 |
| seb128 | larsu, ;-) | 16:22 |
| greyback | seb128: that's a nice tip, thanks! | 16:22 |
| seb128 | larsu, you can use =<version> or /<serie> | 16:22 |
| greyback | kewl | 16:23 |
| larsu | seb128: yes, I know about =version, but then you have to know the exact version... | 16:23 |
| larsu | awesome | 16:23 |
| * larsu wants to install something now to try it out | 16:23 | |
| seb128 | larsu, enable a quantal source and do apt-get install eog/quantal :p | 16:24 |
| larsu | hehe | 16:24 |
| * Laney goes away for a short while - on holiday for the next two weeks but might be around now and again. See you soon if you're not online before I go! | 16:32 | |
| seb128 | Laney, oh, enjoy your holidays! | 16:33 |
| Laney | Still around over the weekend if people are :-) | 16:34 |
| * Laney sneakily nominates some peer reviewers then scurries off | 16:34 | |
| Laney | have a nice fortnight! | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, quick, easy, obvious fix https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/unity-lens-friends/libunity7-busname-fix/+merge/155011 | 16:43 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: approved :) | 16:43 |
| didrocks | pitti: seb128: we should discuss that on Monday :) | 16:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, +1 | 16:44 |
| didrocks | (yeah, I'm way behind because of meeting/triaging issues) | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, should i push that to the team branch? | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | i assume there is no merger for that :) | 16:44 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: yeah, there is no automerger yet | 16:44 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: there will be in ~1h | 16:44 |
| didrocks | :) | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | pushed | 16:44 |
| didrocks | sweet! | 16:44 |
| * kenvandine goes back to figuring out autopilot tests :) | 16:44 | |
| didrocks | :) | 16:47 |
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| tkamppeter | jasoncwarner_, hi | 18:11 |
| * didrocks waves good evening | 19:36 | |
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| rickspencer3 | getting facebook photos in my dash is pretty cool | 22:53 |
| cyphermox | cool :) | 23:08 |
| cyphermox | robru: ping? | 23:10 |
| robru | cyphermox, oh hey... I can't remember what I wanted ;-) | 23:19 |
| cyphermox | robru: ah, ok :) | 23:19 |
| robru | cyphermox, it had to do with landing touch apps in raring. how's that going for you? most of my stuff is blocked on other packages that haven't landed yet | 23:21 |
| cyphermox | I was busy with the bluetooth and a bunch of other smaller details, I was starting now | 23:22 |
| cyphermox | are you block on anything mine? | 23:22 |
| cyphermox | I can do them now in priority, and it can go even faster assuming you help reviewing the packaging changes? | 23:22 |
| robru | cyphermox, can't remember now... something about autopilot, and libhud-qt-qml. you doing either of those? | 23:35 |
| cyphermox | we did land autopilot-qt yesterday | 23:36 |
| robru | cyphermox, oh great | 23:36 |
| cyphermox | libhud-qt-qml might be mine too, but was blocked on ted finishing up making hud work on desktop, IIRC | 23:36 |
| cyphermox | (checking) | 23:36 |
| cyphermox | yup, libhud-qt is mine, BLOCKED. | 23:37 |
| cyphermox | ted's WI is INPROGRESS | 23:37 |
| cyphermox | hmm | 23:37 |
| cyphermox | we should make a bot to find out the status of work items. | 23:38 |
| robru | yeah, I emailed ted about it already, but hadn't gotten a reply | 23:38 |
| robru | I should set my workitems to blocked ;-) | 23:38 |
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