[03:01] cyphermox, ping [03:09] ogra_: you left us all hanging before... what were you wrong about for 10 years? :) [05:38] Good morning [06:47] Laney: can we / do you plan to sync glib2.0 from exp? [07:46] mvo, ping? [07:53] mhr3: pong [07:54] mvo, hey there, how are you doing? :) [07:55] mhr3: good, thanks! well, was sick in the last 2 days, but much better now. but overall good, thanks :) [07:55] mhr3: and you ? [07:57] good morning [07:57] mvo, eh, freezes... so crazy times :) [07:58] mvo, anyway, we wanted to ask about sc, we'd want to show all scopes in apps lens, what's the best/easiest way to achieve that? :) [07:58] mhr3: haha, of course! [07:59] mhr3: so the data-provider would need to send you this? and all scopes means all packages that provide a lens/scope (do we use the term scope?). [08:01] mvo, yea, basically we'd want to have it the xapian index (ideally as tagged with a separate category) [08:01] have it in* [08:01] mvo, and there's no more lenses in 13.04, everything is a scope now :) [08:01] mhr3: ok, how is it identified? is there something (name, category, tag, whatnot) to do this? [08:01] mhr3: aha :) [08:02] mvo, that's what i thought you could tell us :) [08:02] we can add whatever to the pkgs [08:03] mhr3: aha, cool, so you control it entirely? give me 2 minutes to look at the code etc to familiarize myself again [08:03] jamesh: welcome [08:03] mvo, sure [08:03] jamesh: mhr3: aha, cool, so you control it entirely? give me 2 minutes to look at the code etc to familiarize myself again [08:05] jamesh, mhr3: it seems like the easiest option is to simply re-use the existing software-center.menu.in category for "dash search plugins" [08:05] that is currently using unity-lens-* as a pkgname filter [08:05] if you simply ensure that the unity-scope-* matches all your scope you should be fine [08:06] mvo, does that mean it's also query-able (wow is that a word?) in the db? [08:08] mhr3: you don't want to go through the db-provider? [08:08] mvo, plus i hope it wouldn't be a problem to do (unity-lens-* || unity-scope-*), cause i don't think we have time to do a bunch of renames now [08:09] mhr3: its querable directly in the DB as well, its just a bit quirky because of xapian special handling for "-" [08:09] there's a db-provider? what's that? :) [08:09] if that's some python class that we can't use that, cause we don't have python in apps lens/scope [08:10] mhr3: the data provider, for some reason I thought you guys would use that for the category stuff too, but I re-remember that you don#t,right? [08:10] Looks like it would be pretty simple to put both names in the section [08:10] mhr3: the dbus thing [08:10] oh, iirc we use that just for previews [08:10] searches are done directly in the db [08:11] should be faster at least... we don't really have time to change that atm [08:11] mhr3, jamesh: indeed, give me some more minuts to draft a sample python query thing [08:12] I think the only quirk is that replace("-", "_") is needed as xapian handles the "-" speical (which is rather anoying) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [08:22] achiang, that debconf is authoritative [08:23] hey desktopers [08:23] salut seb128 [08:23] happy friday! [08:24] lut didrocks [08:24] ogra_, still talking about timezones? [08:24] seb128, only answering pings :) [08:24] ogra_, we should undo that "debconf is authoritative" [08:24] mhr3, jamesh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636330/ <- this should work if the scopes/lenses have desktop files you can leave line 4 commented otherwise you will have to query the a-x-i as well [08:25] that doesn't seem right for a 21st century OS [08:25] mvo, hey, alter! wie gehts? [08:25] hey seb128 [08:25] bonjour seb128 [08:25] seb128, no, we dont need to ... as i said above, i was wrong for the last ten years .... slangasek explained to me that debconf should always adapt to the existing system settings (and apparently not everyone knows that) [08:25] mvo: currently the scopes don't have .desktop files -- there are .scope files that are kind of like .desktop files but not quite [08:25] mvo! wie gehts? [08:25] seb128: not too bad, was a bit sick in the last 2 days, but much better now [08:26] hey pitti! [08:26] pitti, salut [08:26] RAOF: upstart does dbus service activation now? I didn't know that [08:26] jamesh: we could extend the deskotp file extractor to read/add them, that wouldn't be too hard I think [08:26] * pitti vous donne beaucoup de accolades [08:26] ogra_, oh ok (I don't have "above", I close my client at night ... will read the irclogs.u.c log ;-) [08:27] mvo: they are in keyfile format with Name and Description, so hopefully that isn't too difficult [08:27] jamesh: https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/archive-index/app-install-mvo/ <- this is doing the extraction magic [08:27] seb128, ah, i apologized to desrt ... and achiang asked what i was referring to :) (that caused my comment above) [08:27] pitti, what do you mean by "upstart does dbus service activation"? isn't dbus doing dbus service activation? [08:27] * jamesh looks [08:27] ogra_, gotcha ;-) [08:28] jamesh: I assume the scopes have a fixed dir they go into? [08:28] mvo: yes [08:28] seb128: I asked because I saw RAOF's reply on https://plus.google.com/u/0/107564545827215425270/posts/2yoaggm8Yth [08:28] but I don't want to make so much fuss on G+ about it [08:28] seb128: kdbus won't :) [08:28] well, dbus is overrated, lets do IPC [08:28] (not that this becomes relevant anytime soon, I was just wondering) [08:28] sokect and the like :) [08:29] *sockets [08:29] pitti: glib> yes, I've got that on my list - will look today [08:29] hoping we didn't sneak in any divergance [08:29] ogra_: you young guys with fancy IPC mechanisms! exchange text files! [08:29] pitti, you mean apps ahould just use the talk protocol ? yeah, good idea :) [08:29] Laney: I had a quick look at the changelog, didn't look like it; but a debian/ debdiff review is certainly in order; thanks! [08:29] mvo, jamesh, afaict we're talking about patching apps scope to query one extra db + modifying the query vs just modifying the query *and* changing s-c component, i think #1 is much simpler [08:45] mhr3: yeah, just the query is certainly easiest, please check out if that is suffient if not I'm happy to help with #2 [08:45] jamesh, could you ^, i'm fixing some other things [08:46] jamesh, it's all in unity-lens-applications src/unity-package-search.cc [08:46] mhr3: okay [08:46] thx [08:50] seb128: btw, could you please install ubuntu-desktop and thus libpam-xdg-support again? that should uninstall libpam-systemd [08:51] seb128: and then verify that everything still works? I'm still running logind only while I'm busy with fixing the upstream world for the split === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [09:42] good morning [09:43] chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? happy friday [09:43] seb128, yeah, i'm not too bad thanks. how are you? [09:43] we've got snow again! [09:44] https://twitter.com/chrisccoulson/status/315012812156055552 [09:45] chrisccoulson, I'm good [09:45] chrisccoulson, crazy weather this year [09:46] we have snowfall forecast for most of today and tomorrow [09:53] jamesh, fyi i'm pushing http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636475/ into apps lens [09:54] jamesh, well, the xapian define is important === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr_ === bdrung_ is now known as bdrung === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr_ [10:32] seb128: Re bug 952185; actually there are two more tasks besides the openssh patch that need sponsoring: An at (ubuntu) MP and a gdm (precise) bzr branch. [10:32] Launchpad bug 952185 in gdm (Ubuntu Precise) "~/.pam_environment not parsed by default" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/952185 [10:32] GunnarHj, the merge requests are picked by the sponsoring queue directly [10:33] seb128: One MP. And no, since ubuntu-branches is not in the review list. [10:34] seb128: And the other branch is not an MP, since there is no branch to merge against. [10:34] GunnarHj, shrug, that bug is a mess :-( [10:34] GunnarHj, if there is no mp can you add a debdiff to the bug? [10:34] seb128: If only the sponsors were careful enough. ;-) [10:34] seb128: Can do that. [10:34] GunnarHj, thanks [11:22] hmm, something squiffy with pulseaudio today. it keeps respawning after login [11:23] it is supposed to respawn ... [11:23] mor intresting would be why does it die [11:26] well indeed [11:27] anything in ~/.xsession-errors ? [11:28] bug 1078543 [11:28] Launchpad bug 1078543 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Raring) "[raring] Pulse audio fails to start with error 'Failed to open module "module-esound-protocol-unix": file not found'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078543 [11:28] getting that [11:28] geez, why is that loaded at all [11:29] no mention of pulse in xsession-errors [11:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636659/ [11:30] got steam installed on a 64bit machine ? [11:30] yes [11:33] hmm, killed pulse and now it loads [11:33] * popey reboots [11:55] ogra_: aha! it respawns madly if you logout/login, not if you reboot [11:56] * popey files bug [12:11] arrrrrr [12:15] Laney, not liking the winter weather or....? [12:15] yeah, just arrived at blue fin - cold cold [12:17] no lunch outside today then? ;-) [12:17] definitely not :P === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:41] pitti: ah, we still have a glib diff for python:any BD [12:54] " good" morning! [12:54] Laney, I'm ready to upload evo 3.6.4 I guess [12:54] I can' t really do a build test though; I'm on a live CD [12:54] (for raring) [12:54] you sound supremely confident! [12:54] porter-amd64? [12:55] you are genius [12:55] oh wait [12:55] that's going to be some hoop jumping but yes I can do it [12:56] did your pc break or something? [12:56] yeah [12:56] BOTH. [12:56] :/ [12:56] one won' t boot, the other's SSD freezes up all the time [12:56] I got disk errors [12:56] sitting in a cafe right now, on a live cd on my laptop, waiting for the parts shop next door to open === mitya57_ is now known as mitya57 === kgunnAFK is now known as kgunn [12:58] oh man, brutal [12:59] Laney: ah that; damn Debian freeze :) [13:03] pitti, sorry, forgot to reply to your ping this morning, installing ubuntu-desktop didn't bring libpam-xdg-runtime in, I guess that's only a recommend? in any case I swapped back, will let you know if I find any issue [13:15] thanks [13:20] pitti, btw, what was the status of langpacks? wgrant said the other day you guys sorted it out and you were going to trigger an update ... is that correct? === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [13:43] didrocks, so how does the privacy control ("remote-content-search") for scopes work in the new smart scope world? [13:44] mterry: it will stay the same [13:44] mterry: and disable the smart scope service [13:44] so no talk to the server [13:44] mterry: btw, yesterday you relaunched the unity stack, but didn't publish it (it was in manual publishing mode) [13:45] mterry: we had a lot of tests failing during this daily release this night. I bet for a service crashing/flacky tests and seb128 reran them (still running on some arch) [13:45] didrocks, ugh, whoops [13:45] mterry: do you mind publishing them (they will be in manual publishing mode still because some upstream stacks are in manual publishing) [13:45] didrocks, I saw that he did, yeah. ati had a lot of failures, it's usually reliable [13:46] mterry, on top of that, all scopes have a RemoteContent true/false field in their .scope file. To ensure even local non-recommended scopes are blocked. [13:46] didrocks, after they finish sure [13:46] mterry: thanks! also there is one compiz regression [13:46] one sec… [13:46] bug #1158161 [13:46] Launchpad bug 1158161 in Compiz "[regression] Unmaximized windows can't be closed, minimized, moved" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1158161 [13:46] mterry: ^ [13:46] would be good to get a fix in [13:46] davidcalle, so if there is a RemoteContent=true field, and that preference is turned off, the scope won't be used? [13:47] /msg didrocks argh this new dash. [13:47] mterry: sam has a fix in lp:compiz (not lp:compiz/raring) [13:47] jcastro: :) [13:47] :) [13:47] mterry: but the description is not encouraging [13:47] so this lag inbetween each character typed, is killing me [13:47] jcastro: yeah, there is a bug for the searching on each keystroke [13:48] which is doing that… [13:48] didrocks, you mean the "such a disaster" line? :) [13:48] mterry: rather "I have no idea why it does. Scary." [13:49] didrocks, OK, who is managing the compiz/raring branch? They should review the code [13:49] mterry: well, nobody since duflu is working on something else :/ [13:49] mterry: so basically, you? (surprise surprise!) :-) [13:49] hmm [13:49] mterry: sil2100 has some knowledge of compiz [13:50] not sure in that area of the code though [13:50] change seems simple enough [13:50] yeah, we can try just confirming it's fixing it [13:50] and having someone playing with the decorator [13:50] it's reproducible 100% of times === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:52] cyphermox hi, sorry to bug you, does the sru request look fine ? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1116317 [13:52] Launchpad bug 1116317 in network-manager-applet "Needs option to create user connections by default" [Wishlist,In progress] [13:53] didrocks, will test myself and file MR for it when I confirm. Then maybe you can approve for landing [13:53] mterry: thanks a lot [13:53] mterry: yep, I will just trust your words :) [13:54] didrocks, mterry: I checked the code, but didn't build-test it yet [13:54] * sil2100 was lunching [13:54] For Sam's fix [13:56] thx sil2100! [13:56] didrocks, so... this RemoteContent field for scope files. If the user has set privacy to ON, a RemoteContent=true scope won't be used? [13:56] mterry: basically, the scope will be started [13:57] but will look at this privacy key [13:57] and if it's set to ON [13:57] it won't look [13:57] I'll backport it to raring later ;p [13:57] also, the smart scope won't set your search on the server [13:57] didrocks, that's the old way. Unity will decide to start it or not. [13:57] davidcalle: right, but some will still be started [13:57] didrocks, but only those with RemoteContent=false? [13:57] like the music remote and photo remotes [13:57] right davidcalle? [13:58] didrocks, those may look at the preference key to optionally use remote sources? [13:58] didrocks, right, these ones, since they have the "always-running" dconf-key check internally. [13:58] yep [13:58] so it's a combination of both :) [13:59] so always-running -> looks at key; RemoteContent=false -> looks at key; RemoteContent=true -> not even started if privacy on [13:59] didrocks, davidcalle ^ ? [14:00] mterry: almost ;) (RemoteContent=false won't look at the key as they don't search for remote content…) [14:00] mterry, remotecontent false don't need to look at the key at all. But yes. [14:00] didrocks, davidcalle: what about a scope that looks at local as well as remote content? [14:00] mterry: they are separate scope [14:00] under the same master scope [14:00] ah... hm [14:00] but separate scope [14:01] didrocks, so MIR wise, launchpad and sshsearch scopes use python2 and thus are icky. Would you be super sad if they weren't installed by default? [14:02] mterry: I think the executive decision is to install all of them by default, regardless of the technology [14:02] launchpad is python2 because of launchpadlib [14:02] mterry, that would be unfortunate to have github without launchpad, but paramiko and liblaunchpad are the bad guys. [14:02] not sure about why sshsearch is [14:02] didrocks, paramiko [14:02] ok paramiko :) [14:03] MIR doesn't care *why* [14:03] MIR's answer is port liblaunchpad (why isn't that ported yet!) [14:03] didrocks, but you think there's an override in effect here [14:03] mterry: right [14:04] mterry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/lazr.authentication/+bug/1007437 [14:04] Launchpad bug 1007437 in lazr.authentication "Support Python 3" [Undecided,New] [14:05] Well, in those two cases (liblaunchpad, paramiko), other desktop stuff needs those to be ported. So adding a couple lenses to that pile isn't the worst. When we get serious about python3, we can consider either porting what we need or dropping these lenses [14:05] Adding a couple lenses for now won't hurt [14:06] mterry: agreed [14:06] launchpadlib in python3 would be great as a lot of our tool are depending on that [14:06] davidcalle, another question. I see some questionable copy-paste code it looks like. In musique, audacious, clementine, gmusicbrowser, and guayadeque: [14:06] if model.get_value(iteration, 1) == "musique": [14:06] image = "file:///usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/audacious.svg" [14:06] This is in the preview code [14:07] didrocks, and everything seems to depend on gir1.2-dee-1.0 but not actually use it? not a MIR blocker, but just odd [14:07] mterry, these previews haven't been ported to the new api, afaik. [14:08] mterry: right, we removed on some [14:08] mterry: not all though, but I plan to do that [14:08] davidcalle, so that's dead, unused code right now? [14:08] davidcalle, is porting to new preview code planned for raring? [14:09] pitti, hey [14:09] mterry, so this code is not actually used yet. It will be in a few days I hope, I've updated the maintainer on the new preview API last night (it has landed a few days ago). [14:09] pitti, do you have special translation foo on launchpad? [14:09] mterry, planned for raring. [14:09] k [14:09] davidcalle, thanks [14:10] pitti, like, can you change https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/hud/+imports to "approved"? [14:10] czajkowski, hey, ^ [14:11] didrocks, aha! sshsearch says RemoteContent=false and then checks the key ;) [14:11] should be RemoteContent=true [14:11] davidcalle: ^ [14:11] hum [14:11] no, it should be false [14:11] but no need to check the key [14:11] mterry: it's extra-picky :p === greyback is now known as greyback|food [14:14] didrocks, davidcalle: well, with those concerns, MIR seems fine for this set [14:15] mterry: you did see the home scope code as well, right? [14:15] mterry: as it's the only one which is different from others [14:15] mterry, that's unfortunote for the sshsearch mistake, but GREAT for the MIR, thanks! :) [14:15] didrocks, no, it wasn't in the list of new packages. [14:15] oh yeah it was [14:15] hum, sure? [14:15] just a different list [14:15] mterry: right :) [14:16] didrocks, OK, will look [14:16] mterry: it's a none boring one [14:16] didrocks, yay? [14:16] mterry: and you know what? you can directly bother pstolowski and mhr3 for it :p [14:16] mterry: it's the smart scope service [14:16] so agregatting all data per master scope [14:17] agregatting the home dash [14:17] and sending data to the server [14:17] a nice playfield! :) [14:27] hey didrocks, seb128 what's the word on the street regarding new dash? looking good today? [14:27] (I haven't dist-upgraded yet today) [14:27] rickspencer3: if you dist-upgrade now, you will get the in dash payment as well [14:27] rickspencer3: some fixes, still some work to do, I hope to process a rebuild tonight and have the friends scope [14:28] didrocks, so you think dash payment will land? [14:29] rickspencer3: well, at least, it's now in the ppa, QA on OLS gave their +1 on their testing on it with the 100scopes [14:29] the merge reviews have been acked [14:29] so it's a question of testing [14:29] there are still some cases where they are unclear about [14:29] like if you card expire, no feedback [14:29] so they are trying to figure out that [14:29] and they need the +1 on the FFe bug from Mark [14:29] didrocks, seb128 said something about sabdfl asking for ppa testing or something first [14:29] did all that happen? [14:29] Hmmm... Alt+Right Click on a window is captured by Unity and not sent to the application. Can this be disabled? [14:29] rickspencer3: it's just what happen? [14:29] see my: [14:30] 15:27:25 didrocks | rickspencer3: if you dist-upgrade now, you will get the in dash payment as well [14:30] rickspencer3: that's what I'm working on for the past few days, sees the email you were CCed :) [14:30] so as told in those emails [14:30] seb128: you pinged? [14:30] we can start testing in the ppa [14:30] we have an easy revert path [14:30] in case things are not ok or mark didn't +1 [14:31] didrocks, yeah, I saw that, I just didn't know if it was specifically what sabdfl asked for [14:31] czajkowski, hey [14:31] (after a short chat with seb128 last night) [14:32] rickspencer3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1154176/comments/13 [14:32] Launchpad bug 1154176 in unity "[FFE] Add payment preview for music" [Undecided,Fix committed] [14:32] this is why it's in the experimental ppa [14:32] ok, I understand now [14:34] hey mterry [14:34] rickspencer3, sorry if what I said yesterday didn't make sense/was lacking details [14:34] seb128, it's all ok [14:34] lol [14:34] ;-) [14:34] I was just asking === greyback|food is now known as greyback [14:35] cyphermox_, hi, what's up? [14:35] heh [14:43] didrocks, home scope c/r/p's some lenses. It c/r's asklibreoffice, but doesn't p it. Intentional? [14:44] mterry: hem, I was testing you :) [14:44] mterry: want to MP for it? ;) [14:44] k [14:45] didrocks, I'll just push [14:45] mterry: ok ;) [14:45] mterry: don't break an in-process merge though [14:45] guh fine :) [14:48] didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity-scope-home/missing-p/+merge/154973 [14:48] ritz__: hey, yeah it looks fine, just won't be exactly that patch [14:49] cyphermox, thank you :) [14:50] cyphermox, also, lp#965895, sru filled, with the debdiff [14:50] pitti, unping about hud template approval, got it done [14:50] cyphermox, TIA [14:50] let me know, if anything needs to fixed [14:50] seb128, ty :) [14:51] gn folks :) [14:51] dah, why did he leave so quickly :( [15:00] didrocks, seems like that privacy switch is not coded yet? Bug 1158782 seems to think not, and I don't see RemoteContent in the home scope source [15:00] Launchpad bug 1158782 in unity (Ubuntu) "When privacy switch is on don't query client scopes with RemoteContent=true" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1158782 [15:00] seems problematic [15:01] mterry: no, it's in progress :) [15:01] but noted [15:04] didrocks, yay... i see results in the friends lens from jamesh's branch :) [15:05] \o/ [15:05] didrocks, i see you played with it a bit [15:05] it's using the wrong renderer [15:05] but it's something :) [15:05] yeah ;) [15:05] kenvandine: do you mind switching to the right renderer? [15:05] is that a bug or something that doesn't exist anymroe? [15:05] if you have time [15:05] sure [15:05] kenvandine: I don't think so [15:05] kenvandine: open a bug against unity [15:05] (upstream) [15:05] 100scopes [15:05] for tag [15:07] didrocks, so it is using HORIZONTAL_TILE, you're saying you think that might just be a bug in unity right? [15:08] kenvandine: yeah, probably [15:17] didrocks: quick question: what creates the "unity" compiz profile when a user logs in? [15:19] mdeslaur, your computer does [15:19] :p [15:19] seb128: oh! that would explain it :) [15:19] hehe [15:19] seb128: do you know the answer? [15:20] mdeslaur, the answer is "that's more complex that it should be" [15:20] mdeslaur, there is a profile copy on first login iirc [15:20] mdeslaur, for some reason which have to do with compiz having a backend for your storage backend [15:21] like cpp->gconf/gsettings/ini [15:21] mdeslaur, what are you trying to figure out? [15:22] I am trying to enforce default gsettings for unity...but creating gschema.override file only seems to affect the "Default" compiz profile [15:22] so I'm trying to figure out what exactly is creating the "unity" compiz profile [15:35] mdeslaur, try asking on #ubuntu-unity, sil2100 probably knows the details [15:35] thanks seb128 [15:44] seb128: langpacks> yes, I'm waiting for the first LP export, then I can build them [15:44] seb128: I can't approve imports or translations [15:46] pitti, launchpadlibrarian.net/134834696/ubuntu-raring-translations.tar.gz [15:46] pitti, isn't that the export? [15:46] pitti, it's listed on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+language-packs [15:46] pitti, or do you need something else? [15:46] oh, nice! [15:46] no, that's it [15:46] pitti, great ;-) [15:48] seb128: it's not cron'ed yet, as the first (full) build needs some special care [15:49] pitti, ok [15:50] seb128: I started the build of the packages now [15:50] pitti, danke! [15:50] seb128: I guess I won't get to testing/uploading them before Monday, though [15:50] we will maybe have updated translations in raring :p [15:50] pitti, just discovered today that quite some templates are outdated in raring [15:50] our in-laws are visiting over the weekend (they are already here), so I won't be able to steal away much for computer stuff [15:51] pitti, no worry, you shouldn't work in the W.E! no hurry as well, can wait next week [15:52] pitti, we need to figure how to make rosetta import the .pot from the daily build ppas, we overlooked that part with the daily landing [15:52] pitti, I guess didrocks will talk to you about that [15:52] oh, we don't grab the translation tarballs from that, I suppose [15:52] bad [15:52] yeah, but in a call :) [15:52] yeah, that sucks [15:53] so we need to enable pkgbinarymangler in those PPAs, and teach LP to look at those [15:53] and we didn't have updates langpacks to say "hold on, my translations are uptodate, how much unity is not translated" [15:53] I just noticed today while checking something else [15:53] pitti, seems about right [15:53] well, not before next week in any case [15:54] friday 5pm is not the time to start figuring that out ;-) [15:54] no hurry as well, we did manual uploads or updated .pot meanwhile [15:55] cyphermox, autopilot question [15:55] 11:49:59.775 WARNING __init__:197 - Caught exception while searching for autopilot interface: 'DBusException("Could not get PID of name 'org.freedesktop.DBus': no such name",)' [15:55] what do you think could be causing that? [15:56] anyone have any idea why I have no messaging indicator in my panel? [15:56] it continues to timeout while trying to find the object [15:56] kenvandine: no clue [15:56] kenvandine: ask mzanetti in #ubuntu-unity [15:56] cyphermox, can you point me to an example of anything using it? [15:56] I really only did the packaging ;) [15:56] i just used qtcreator to add autopilot tests to my project :) [15:56] (actually, the packaging review) [15:56] ok [15:57] mzanetti has a branch ready to land for autopilot-qt test examples, give me a second [15:57] kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/autopilot-qt/add-tests/+merge/153695 [15:57] that might be good examples [16:00] greyback, is indicator-messages installed? [16:00] greyback, is that a new install? [16:00] seb128: yep, package installed. It's an upgrade, but it was missing in quantal for me too, somehow [16:01] greyback, I think the new design makes it being hidden until you start/configure an app using it [16:01] greyback, e.g empathy, xchat(-gnome), tb... [16:01] seb128: I've Empathy running, I'll look into its settings. [16:01] indicator-messages-service is running... [16:01] greyback, larsu can probably help you [16:02] seb128: ok thanks! [16:02] yw [16:02] i'm loving the new icons, they're gorgeous [16:08] greyback, oh, random comment, empathy by itself doesn't integrate to the indicator-messages, you need telepathy-indicator [16:08] greyback, just in case you don't have this one installed for some reason [16:08] seb128: yep I have that too [16:09] larsu, ^ help :p [16:09] I'll wait for larsu :) [16:11] greyback: hey :) Are indicator-messages-service and telepathy-indicator running? [16:11] and do you have at least one account set up in empathy? [16:12] larsu: yes, yes and yes [16:12] interesting..... [16:13] what does `gsettings get com.canonical.indicator.messages applications` give you? [16:14] larsu: ['gwibber.desktop', 'empathy.desktop', 'thunderbird.desktop', 'redditredditcom.desktop', 'telephony-app.desktop', 'telephony-app-sms.desktop', 'telephony-app-phone.desktop', 'GMailmailgooglecom.desktop', 'xchat.desktop'] [16:14] and you don't see the messaging menu at all? [16:14] this is weird... [16:14] nope, sorry. I've not seen it for some time actually. In quantal too :( [16:15] greyback, that's standard unity, not your own hacked version, right? ;-) [16:15] seb128: lol [16:15] seb128: it's all legit :) [16:15] larsu, well, unity-2d hacker, you never know :p [16:15] :D [16:16] greyback: so I guess you've already restarted the messaging service? (if only by restarting your machine) [16:16] greyback, I guess it's not there if you keyboard navigate left/right? (e.g not an icon issue)? [16:16] larsu: I killed the process, I think it respawned [16:16] yeah, that's what it does [16:16] greyback, I mean if you you open another indicator and do left/right [16:16] seb128: good idea. Checking, it's definitely not there [16:16] it's not opened on the way at some point? [16:17] k... [16:18] uh oh, version "12.10.6+bzr340+pkg0~quantal1" looks very wrong [16:18] for indicator-messages [16:18] must be an old PPA breaking everything. Feck, sorry guys [16:18] greyback: just to be sure it's not the panel's fault: install libindicator3-tools and do `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-loader3 /usr/lib/indicators3/7/libmessaging.so` [16:18] OH [16:18] yeah, upgrade to a new version first, please ;) [16:19] I'm just surprised an old quantal version wasn't replaced by raring [16:21] greyback, buggy ppa versioning :-( [16:21] greyback, we are on 12.10.6daily [16:22] seb128: so I see yes. [16:22] greyback, just sudo apt-get install indicator-messages/raring [16:22] greyback, you might want to "dpkg -l | grep ~quantal" [16:22] seb128: I'm doing a PPA purge too, just to be safe [16:22] seb128: ooh, I didn't know about this syntax [16:22] in case you have other packages in the same state [16:22] larsu, ;-) [16:22] seb128: that's a nice tip, thanks! [16:22] larsu, you can use = or / [16:23] kewl [16:23] seb128: yes, I know about =version, but then you have to know the exact version... [16:23] awesome [16:23] * larsu wants to install something now to try it out [16:24] larsu, enable a quantal source and do apt-get install eog/quantal :p [16:24] hehe [16:32] * Laney goes away for a short while - on holiday for the next two weeks but might be around now and again. See you soon if you're not online before I go! [16:33] Laney, oh, enjoy your holidays! [16:34] Still around over the weekend if people are :-) [16:34] * Laney sneakily nominates some peer reviewers then scurries off [16:34] have a nice fortnight! [16:43] didrocks, quick, easy, obvious fix https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/unity-lens-friends/libunity7-busname-fix/+merge/155011 [16:43] kenvandine: approved :) [16:43] pitti: seb128: we should discuss that on Monday :) [16:44] didrocks, +1 [16:44] (yeah, I'm way behind because of meeting/triaging issues) [16:44] didrocks, should i push that to the team branch? [16:44] i assume there is no merger for that :) [16:44] kenvandine: yeah, there is no automerger yet [16:44] kenvandine: there will be in ~1h [16:44] :) [16:44] pushed [16:44] sweet! [16:44] * kenvandine goes back to figuring out autopilot tests :) [16:47] :) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|eow === kgunn is now known as kgunnAFK [18:11] jasoncwarner_, hi [19:36] * didrocks waves good evening === kgunnAFK is now known as kgunn === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [22:53] getting facebook photos in my dash is pretty cool [23:08] cool :) [23:10] robru: ping? [23:19] cyphermox, oh hey... I can't remember what I wanted ;-) [23:19] robru: ah, ok :) [23:21] cyphermox, it had to do with landing touch apps in raring. how's that going for you? most of my stuff is blocked on other packages that haven't landed yet [23:22] I was busy with the bluetooth and a bunch of other smaller details, I was starting now [23:22] are you block on anything mine? [23:22] I can do them now in priority, and it can go even faster assuming you help reviewing the packaging changes? [23:35] cyphermox, can't remember now... something about autopilot, and libhud-qt-qml. you doing either of those? [23:36] we did land autopilot-qt yesterday [23:36] cyphermox, oh great [23:36] libhud-qt-qml might be mine too, but was blocked on ted finishing up making hud work on desktop, IIRC [23:36] (checking) [23:37] yup, libhud-qt is mine, BLOCKED. [23:37] ted's WI is INPROGRESS [23:37] hmm [23:38] we should make a bot to find out the status of work items. [23:38] yeah, I emailed ted about it already, but hadn't gotten a reply [23:38] I should set my workitems to blocked ;-)