[03:01] <robru> cyphermox, ping
[03:09] <achiang> ogra_: you left us all hanging before... what were you wrong about for 10 years? :)
[05:38] <pitti> Good morning
[06:47] <pitti> Laney: can we / do you plan to sync glib2.0 from exp?
[07:46] <mhr3> mvo, ping?
[07:53] <mvo> mhr3: pong
[07:54] <mhr3> mvo, hey there, how are you doing? :)
[07:55] <mvo> mhr3: good, thanks! well, was sick in the last 2 days, but much better now. but overall good, thanks :)
[07:55] <mvo> mhr3: and you ?
[07:57] <jibel> good morning
[07:57] <mhr3> mvo, eh, freezes... so crazy times :)
[07:58] <mhr3> mvo, anyway, we wanted to ask about sc, we'd want to show all scopes in apps lens, what's the best/easiest way to achieve that? :)
[07:58] <mvo> mhr3: haha, of course!
[07:59] <mvo> mhr3: so the data-provider would need to send you this? and all scopes means all packages that provide a lens/scope (do we use the term scope?).
[08:01] <mhr3> mvo, yea, basically we'd want to have it the xapian index (ideally as tagged with a separate category)
[08:01] <mhr3> have it in*
[08:01] <mhr3> mvo, and there's no more lenses in 13.04, everything is a scope now :)
[08:01] <mvo> mhr3: ok, how is it identified? is there something (name, category, tag, whatnot) to do this?
[08:01] <mvo> mhr3: aha :)
[08:02] <mhr3> mvo, that's what i thought you could tell us :)
[08:02] <mhr3> we can add whatever to the pkgs
[08:03] <mvo> mhr3: aha, cool, so you control it entirely? give me 2 minutes to look at the code etc to familiarize myself again
[08:03] <mvo> jamesh: welcome
[08:03] <mhr3> mvo, sure
[08:03] <mvo> jamesh: <mvo> mhr3: aha, cool, so you control it entirely? give me 2 minutes to look at the code etc to familiarize myself again
[08:05] <mvo> jamesh, mhr3: it seems like the easiest option is to simply re-use the existing software-center.menu.in category for "dash search plugins"
[08:05] <mvo> that is currently using unity-lens-* as a pkgname filter
[08:05] <mvo> if you simply ensure that the unity-scope-* matches all your scope you should be fine
[08:06] <mhr3> mvo, does that mean it's also query-able (wow is that a word?) in the db?
[08:08] <mvo> mhr3: you don't want to go through the db-provider?
[08:08] <mhr3> mvo, plus i hope it wouldn't be a problem to do (unity-lens-* || unity-scope-*), cause i don't think we have time to do a bunch of renames now
[08:09] <mvo> mhr3: its querable directly in the DB as well, its just a bit quirky because of xapian special handling for "-"
[08:09] <mhr3> there's a db-provider? what's that? :)
[08:09] <mhr3> if that's some python class that we can't use that, cause we don't have python in apps lens/scope
[08:10] <mvo> mhr3: the data provider, for some reason I thought you guys would use that for the category stuff too, but I re-remember that you don#t,right?
[08:10] <jamesh> Looks like it would be pretty simple to put both names in the section
[08:10] <mvo> mhr3: the dbus thing
[08:10] <mhr3> oh, iirc we use that just for previews
[08:10] <mhr3> searches are done directly in the db
[08:11] <mhr3> should be faster at least... we don't really have time to change that atm
[08:11] <mvo> mhr3, jamesh: indeed, give me some more minuts to draft a sample python query thing
[08:12] <mvo> I think the only quirk is that replace("-", "_") is needed as xapian handles the "-" speical (which is rather anoying)
[08:22] <ogra_> achiang, that debconf is authoritative
[08:23] <seb128> hey desktopers
[08:23] <didrocks> salut seb128
[08:23] <seb128> happy friday!
[08:24] <seb128> lut didrocks
[08:24] <seb128> ogra_, still talking about timezones?
[08:24] <ogra_> seb128, only answering pings :)
[08:24] <seb128> ogra_, we should undo that "debconf is authoritative"
[08:24] <mvo> mhr3, jamesh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636330/ <- this should work if the scopes/lenses have desktop files you can leave line 4 commented otherwise you will have to query the a-x-i as well
[08:25] <seb128> that doesn't seem right for a 21st century OS
[08:25] <seb128> mvo, hey, alter! wie gehts?
[08:25] <mvo> hey seb128
[08:25] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[08:25] <ogra_> seb128, no, we dont need to ... as i said above, i was wrong for the last ten years .... slangasek explained to me that debconf should always adapt to the existing system settings (and apparently not everyone knows that)
[08:25] <jamesh> mvo: currently the scopes don't have .desktop files -- there are .scope files that are kind of like .desktop files but not quite
[08:25] <pitti> mvo! wie gehts?
[08:25] <mvo> seb128: not too bad, was a bit sick in the last 2 days, but much better now
[08:26] <mvo> hey pitti!
[08:26] <seb128> pitti, salut
[08:26] <pitti> RAOF: upstart does dbus service activation now? I didn't know that
[08:26] <mvo> jamesh: we could extend the deskotp file extractor to read/add them, that wouldn't be too hard I think
[08:26]  * pitti vous donne beaucoup de accolades
[08:26] <seb128> ogra_, oh ok (I don't have "above", I close my client at night ... will read the irclogs.u.c log ;-)
[08:27] <jamesh> mvo: they are in keyfile format with Name and Description, so hopefully that isn't too difficult
[08:27] <mvo> jamesh: https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/archive-index/app-install-mvo/ <- this is doing the extraction magic
[08:27] <ogra_> seb128, ah, i apologized to desrt ... and achiang asked what i was referring to :) (that caused my comment above)
[08:27] <seb128> pitti, what do you mean by "upstart does dbus service activation"? isn't dbus doing dbus service activation?
[08:27]  * jamesh looks
[08:27] <seb128> ogra_, gotcha ;-)
[08:28] <mvo> jamesh: I assume the scopes have a fixed dir they go into?
[08:28] <jamesh> mvo: yes
[08:28] <pitti> seb128: I asked because I saw RAOF's reply on https://plus.google.com/u/0/107564545827215425270/posts/2yoaggm8Yth
[08:28] <pitti> but I don't want to make so much fuss on G+ about it
[08:28] <pitti> seb128: kdbus won't :)
[08:28] <ogra_> well, dbus is overrated, lets do IPC
[08:28] <pitti> (not that this becomes relevant anytime soon, I was just wondering)
[08:28] <ogra_> sokect and the like :)
[08:29] <ogra_> *sockets
[08:29] <Laney> pitti: glib> yes, I've got that on my list - will look today
[08:29] <Laney> hoping we didn't sneak in any divergance
[08:29] <pitti> ogra_: you young guys with fancy IPC mechanisms! exchange text files!
[08:29] <ogra_> pitti, you mean apps ahould just use the talk protocol  ? yeah, good idea :)
[08:29] <pitti> Laney: I had a quick look at the changelog, didn't look like it; but a debian/ debdiff review is certainly in order; thanks!
[08:29] <mhr3> mvo, jamesh, afaict we're talking about patching apps scope to query one extra db + modifying the query vs just modifying the query *and* changing s-c component, i think #1 is much simpler
[08:45] <mvo> mhr3: yeah, just the query is certainly easiest, please check out if that is suffient if not I'm happy to help with #2
[08:45] <mhr3> jamesh, could you ^, i'm fixing some other things
[08:46] <mhr3> jamesh, it's all in unity-lens-applications src/unity-package-search.cc
[08:46] <jamesh> mhr3: okay
[08:46] <mhr3> thx
[08:50] <pitti> seb128: btw, could you please install ubuntu-desktop and thus libpam-xdg-support again? that should uninstall libpam-systemd
[08:51] <pitti> seb128: and then verify that everything still works? I'm still running logind only while I'm busy with fixing the upstream world for the split
[09:42] <chrisccoulson> good morning
[09:43] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? happy friday
[09:43] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah, i'm not too bad thanks. how are you?
[09:43] <chrisccoulson> we've got snow again!
[09:44] <chrisccoulson> https://twitter.com/chrisccoulson/status/315012812156055552
[09:45] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I'm good
[09:45] <seb128> chrisccoulson, crazy weather this year
[09:46] <chrisccoulson> we have snowfall forecast for most of today and tomorrow
[09:53] <mhr3> jamesh, fyi i'm pushing http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636475/ into apps lens
[09:54] <mhr3> jamesh, well, the xapian define is important
[10:32] <GunnarHj> seb128: Re bug 952185; actually there are two more tasks besides the openssh patch that need sponsoring: An at (ubuntu) MP and a gdm (precise) bzr branch.
[10:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 952185 in gdm (Ubuntu Precise) "~/.pam_environment not parsed by default" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/952185
[10:32] <seb128> GunnarHj, the merge requests are picked by the sponsoring queue directly
[10:33] <GunnarHj> seb128: One MP. And no, since ubuntu-branches is not in the review list.
[10:34] <GunnarHj> seb128: And the other branch is not an MP, since there is no branch to merge against.
[10:34] <seb128> GunnarHj, shrug, that bug is a mess :-(
[10:34] <seb128> GunnarHj, if there is no mp can you add a debdiff to the bug?
[10:34] <GunnarHj> seb128: If only the sponsors were careful enough. ;-)
[10:34] <GunnarHj> seb128: Can do that.
[10:34] <seb128> GunnarHj, thanks
[11:22] <popey> hmm, something squiffy with pulseaudio today. it keeps respawning after login
[11:23] <ogra_> it is supposed to respawn ...
[11:23] <ogra_> mor intresting would be why does it die
[11:26] <popey> well indeed
[11:27] <ogra_> anything in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[11:28] <popey> bug 1078543
[11:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1078543 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Raring) "[raring] Pulse audio fails to start with error 'Failed to open module "module-esound-protocol-unix": file not found'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078543
[11:28] <popey> getting that
[11:28] <ogra_> geez, why is that loaded at all
[11:29] <popey> no mention of pulse in xsession-errors
[11:29] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636659/
[11:30] <ogra_> got steam installed on a 64bit machine ?
[11:30] <popey> yes
[11:33] <popey> hmm, killed pulse and now it loads
[11:33]  * popey reboots
[11:55] <popey> ogra_: aha! it respawns madly if you logout/login, not if you reboot
[11:56]  * popey files bug
[12:11] <Laney> arrrrrr
[12:15] <seb128> Laney, not liking the winter weather or....?
[12:15] <Laney> yeah, just arrived at blue fin - cold cold
[12:17] <seb128> no lunch outside today then? ;-)
[12:17] <Laney> definitely not :P
[12:41] <Laney> pitti: ah, we still have a glib diff for python:any BD
[12:54] <cyphermox_> " good" morning!
[12:54] <cyphermox_> Laney, I'm ready to upload evo 3.6.4 I guess
[12:54] <cyphermox_> I can' t really do a build test though; I'm on a live CD
[12:54] <cyphermox_> (for raring)
[12:54] <Laney> you sound supremely confident!
[12:54] <Laney> porter-amd64?
[12:55] <cyphermox_> you are genius
[12:55] <cyphermox_> oh wait
[12:55] <cyphermox_> that's going to be some hoop jumping but yes I can do it
[12:56] <Laney> did your pc break or something?
[12:56] <cyphermox_> yeah
[12:56] <cyphermox_> BOTH.
[12:56] <Laney> :/
[12:56] <cyphermox_> one won' t boot, the other's SSD freezes up all the time
[12:56] <cyphermox_> I got disk errors
[12:56] <cyphermox_> sitting in a cafe right now, on a live cd on my laptop, waiting for the parts shop next door to open
[12:58] <Laney> oh man, brutal
[12:59] <pitti> Laney: ah that; damn Debian freeze :)
[13:03] <seb128> pitti, sorry, forgot to reply to your ping this morning, installing ubuntu-desktop didn't bring libpam-xdg-runtime in, I guess that's only a recommend? in any case I swapped back, will let you know if I find any issue
[13:15] <pitti> thanks
[13:20] <seb128> pitti, btw, what was the status of langpacks? wgrant said the other day you guys sorted it out and you were going to trigger an update ... is that correct?
[13:43] <mterry> didrocks, so how does the privacy control ("remote-content-search") for scopes work in the new smart scope world?
[13:44] <didrocks> mterry: it will stay the same
[13:44] <didrocks> mterry: and disable the smart scope service
[13:44] <didrocks> so no talk to the server
[13:44] <didrocks> mterry: btw, yesterday you relaunched the unity stack, but didn't publish it (it was in manual publishing mode)
[13:45] <didrocks> mterry: we had a lot of tests failing during this daily release this night. I bet for a service crashing/flacky tests and seb128 reran them (still running on some arch)
[13:45] <mterry> didrocks, ugh, whoops
[13:45] <didrocks> mterry: do you mind publishing them (they will be in manual publishing mode still because some upstream stacks are in manual publishing)
[13:45] <mterry> didrocks, I saw that he did, yeah.  ati had a lot of failures, it's usually reliable
[13:46] <davidcalle> mterry, on top of that, all scopes have a RemoteContent true/false field in their .scope file. To ensure even local non-recommended scopes are blocked.
[13:46] <mterry> didrocks, after they finish sure
[13:46] <didrocks> mterry: thanks! also there is one compiz regression
[13:46] <didrocks> one sec…
[13:46] <didrocks> bug #1158161
[13:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1158161 in Compiz "[regression] Unmaximized windows can't be closed, minimized, moved" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1158161
[13:46] <didrocks> mterry:  ^
[13:46] <didrocks> would be good to get a fix in
[13:46] <mterry> davidcalle, so if there is a RemoteContent=true field, and that preference is turned off, the scope won't be used?
[13:47] <jcastro>  /msg didrocks argh this new dash.
[13:47] <didrocks> mterry: sam has a fix in lp:compiz (not lp:compiz/raring)
[13:47] <didrocks> jcastro: :)
[13:47] <jcastro> :)
[13:47] <didrocks> mterry: but the description is not encouraging
[13:47] <jcastro> so this lag inbetween each character typed, is killing me
[13:47] <didrocks> jcastro: yeah, there is a bug for the searching on each keystroke
[13:48] <didrocks> which is doing that…
[13:48] <mterry> didrocks, you mean the "such a disaster" line?  :)
[13:48] <didrocks> mterry: rather "I have no idea why it does. Scary."
[13:49] <mterry> didrocks, OK, who is managing the compiz/raring branch?  They should review the code
[13:49] <didrocks> mterry: well, nobody since duflu is working on something else :/
[13:49] <didrocks> mterry: so basically, you? (surprise surprise!) :-)
[13:49] <mterry> hmm
[13:49] <didrocks> mterry: sil2100 has some knowledge of compiz
[13:50] <didrocks> not sure in that area of the code though
[13:50] <mterry> change seems simple enough
[13:50] <didrocks> yeah, we can try just confirming it's fixing it
[13:50] <didrocks> and having someone playing with the decorator
[13:50] <didrocks> it's reproducible 100% of times
[13:52] <ritz__> cyphermox hi, sorry to bug you, does the sru request look fine ? -  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1116317
[13:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1116317 in network-manager-applet "Needs option to create user connections by default" [Wishlist,In progress]
[13:53] <mterry> didrocks, will test myself and file MR for it when I confirm.  Then maybe you can approve for landing
[13:53] <didrocks> mterry: thanks a lot
[13:53] <didrocks> mterry: yep, I will just trust your words :)
[13:54] <sil2100> didrocks, mterry: I checked the code, but didn't build-test it yet
[13:54]  * sil2100 was lunching
[13:54] <sil2100> For Sam's fix
[13:56] <didrocks> thx sil2100!
[13:56] <mterry> didrocks, so...  this RemoteContent field for scope files.  If the user has set privacy to ON, a RemoteContent=true scope won't be used?
[13:56] <didrocks> mterry: basically, the scope will be started
[13:57] <didrocks> but will look at this privacy key
[13:57] <didrocks> and if it's set to ON
[13:57] <didrocks> it won't look
[13:57] <sil2100> I'll backport it to raring later ;p
[13:57] <didrocks> also, the smart scope won't set your search on the server
[13:57] <davidcalle> didrocks, that's the old way. Unity will decide to start it or not.
[13:57] <didrocks> davidcalle: right, but some will still be started
[13:57] <mterry> didrocks, but only those with RemoteContent=false?
[13:57] <didrocks> like the music remote and photo remotes
[13:57] <didrocks> right davidcalle?
[13:58] <mterry> didrocks, those may look at the preference key to optionally use remote sources?
[13:58] <davidcalle> didrocks, right, these ones, since they have the "always-running" dconf-key check internally.
[13:58] <didrocks> yep
[13:58] <didrocks> so it's a combination of both :)
[13:59] <mterry> so always-running -> looks at key; RemoteContent=false -> looks at key; RemoteContent=true -> not even started if privacy on
[13:59] <mterry> didrocks, davidcalle ^ ?
[14:00] <didrocks> mterry: almost ;) (RemoteContent=false won't look at the key as they don't search for remote content…)
[14:00] <davidcalle> mterry, remotecontent false don't need to look at the key at all. But yes.
[14:00] <mterry> didrocks, davidcalle: what about a scope that looks at local as well as remote content?
[14:00] <didrocks> mterry: they are separate scope
[14:00] <didrocks> under the same master scope
[14:00] <mterry> ah... hm
[14:00] <didrocks> but separate scope
[14:01] <mterry> didrocks, so MIR wise, launchpad and sshsearch scopes use python2 and thus are icky.  Would you be super sad if they weren't installed by default?
[14:02] <didrocks> mterry: I think the executive decision is to install all of them by default, regardless of the technology
[14:02] <didrocks> launchpad is python2 because of launchpadlib
[14:02] <davidcalle> mterry, that would be unfortunate to have github without launchpad, but paramiko and liblaunchpad are the bad guys.
[14:02] <didrocks> not sure about why sshsearch is
[14:02] <mterry> didrocks, paramiko
[14:02] <didrocks> ok paramiko :)
[14:03] <mterry> MIR doesn't care *why*
[14:03] <mterry> MIR's answer is port liblaunchpad (why isn't that ported yet!)
[14:03] <mterry> didrocks, but you think there's an override in effect here
[14:03] <didrocks> mterry: right
[14:04] <davidcalle> mterry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/lazr.authentication/+bug/1007437
[14:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1007437 in lazr.authentication "Support Python 3" [Undecided,New]
[14:05] <mterry> Well, in those two cases (liblaunchpad, paramiko), other desktop stuff needs those to be ported.  So adding a couple lenses to that pile isn't the worst.  When we get serious about python3, we can consider either porting what we need or dropping these lenses
[14:05] <mterry> Adding a couple lenses for now won't hurt
[14:06] <didrocks> mterry: agreed
[14:06] <didrocks> launchpadlib in python3 would be great as a lot of our tool are depending on that
[14:06] <mterry> davidcalle, another question.  I see some questionable copy-paste code it looks like.  In musique, audacious, clementine, gmusicbrowser, and guayadeque:
[14:06] <mterry>             if model.get_value(iteration, 1) == "musique":
[14:06] <mterry>                 image = "file:///usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/audacious.svg"
[14:06] <mterry> This is in the preview code
[14:07] <mterry> didrocks, and everything seems to depend on gir1.2-dee-1.0 but not actually use it?  not a MIR blocker, but just odd
[14:07] <davidcalle> mterry, these previews haven't been ported to the new api, afaik.
[14:08] <didrocks> mterry: right, we removed on some
[14:08] <didrocks> mterry: not all though, but I plan to do that
[14:08] <mterry> davidcalle, so that's dead, unused code right now?
[14:08] <mterry> davidcalle, is porting to new preview code planned for raring?
[14:09] <seb128> pitti, hey
[14:09] <davidcalle> mterry, so this code is not actually used yet. It will be in a few days I hope, I've updated the maintainer on the new preview API last night (it has landed a few days ago).
[14:09] <seb128> pitti, do you have special translation foo on launchpad?
[14:09] <davidcalle> mterry, planned for raring.
[14:09] <mterry> k
[14:09] <mterry> davidcalle, thanks
[14:10] <seb128> pitti, like, can you change https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/hud/+imports to "approved"?
[14:10] <seb128> czajkowski, hey, ^
[14:11] <mterry> didrocks, aha!  sshsearch says RemoteContent=false and then checks the key  ;)
[14:11] <didrocks> should be RemoteContent=true
[14:11] <didrocks> davidcalle: ^
[14:11] <didrocks> hum
[14:11] <didrocks> no, it should be false
[14:11] <didrocks> but no need to check the key
[14:11] <didrocks> mterry: it's extra-picky :p
[14:14] <mterry> didrocks, davidcalle: well, with those concerns, MIR seems fine for this set
[14:15] <didrocks> mterry: you did see the home scope code as well, right?
[14:15] <didrocks> mterry: as it's the only one which is different from others
[14:15] <davidcalle> mterry, that's unfortunote for the sshsearch mistake, but GREAT for the MIR, thanks! :)
[14:15] <mterry> didrocks, no, it wasn't in the list of new packages.
[14:15] <mterry> oh yeah it was
[14:15] <didrocks> hum, sure?
[14:15] <mterry> just a different list
[14:15] <didrocks> mterry: right :)
[14:16] <mterry> didrocks, OK, will look
[14:16] <didrocks> mterry: it's a none boring one
[14:16] <mterry> didrocks, yay?
[14:16] <didrocks> mterry: and you know what? you can directly bother pstolowski and mhr3 for it :p
[14:16] <didrocks> mterry: it's the smart scope service
[14:16] <didrocks> so agregatting all data per master scope
[14:17] <didrocks> agregatting the home dash
[14:17] <didrocks> and sending data to the server
[14:17] <didrocks> a nice playfield! :)
[14:27] <rickspencer3> hey didrocks, seb128 what's the word on the street regarding new dash? looking good today?
[14:27] <rickspencer3> (I haven't dist-upgraded yet today)
[14:27] <didrocks> rickspencer3: if you dist-upgrade now, you will get the in dash payment as well
[14:27] <didrocks> rickspencer3: some fixes, still some work to do, I hope to process a rebuild tonight and have the friends scope
[14:28] <rickspencer3> didrocks, so you think dash payment will land?
[14:29] <didrocks> rickspencer3: well, at least, it's now in the ppa, QA on OLS gave their +1 on their testing on it with the 100scopes
[14:29] <didrocks> the merge reviews have been acked
[14:29] <didrocks> so it's a question of testing
[14:29] <didrocks> there are still some cases where they are unclear about
[14:29] <didrocks> like if you card expire, no feedback
[14:29] <didrocks> so they are trying to figure out that
[14:29] <didrocks> and they need the +1 on the FFe bug from Mark
[14:29] <rickspencer3> didrocks, seb128 said something about sabdfl asking for ppa testing or something first
[14:29] <rickspencer3> did all that happen?
[14:29] <BigWhale> Hmmm... Alt+Right Click on a window is captured by Unity and not sent to the application. Can this be disabled?
[14:29] <didrocks> rickspencer3: it's just what happen?
[14:29] <didrocks> see my:
[14:30] <didrocks> 15:27:25      didrocks | rickspencer3: if you dist-upgrade now, you will get the in dash payment as well
[14:30] <didrocks> rickspencer3: that's what I'm working on for the past few days, sees the email you were CCed :)
[14:30] <didrocks> so as told in those emails
[14:30] <czajkowski> seb128: you pinged?
[14:30] <didrocks> we can start testing in the ppa
[14:30] <didrocks> we have an easy revert path
[14:30] <didrocks> in case things are not ok or mark didn't +1
[14:31] <rickspencer3> didrocks, yeah, I saw that, I just didn't know if it was specifically what sabdfl asked for
[14:31] <seb128> czajkowski, hey
[14:31] <rickspencer3> (after a short chat with seb128 last night)
[14:32] <didrocks> rickspencer3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1154176/comments/13
[14:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1154176 in unity "[FFE] Add payment preview for music" [Undecided,Fix committed]
[14:32] <didrocks> this is why it's in the experimental ppa
[14:32] <rickspencer3> ok, I understand now
[14:34] <cyphermox_> hey mterry
[14:34] <seb128> rickspencer3, sorry if what I said yesterday didn't make sense/was lacking details
[14:34] <rickspencer3> seb128, it's all ok
[14:34] <rickspencer3> lol
[14:34] <seb128> ;-)
[14:34] <rickspencer3> I was just asking
[14:35] <mterry> cyphermox_, hi, what's up?
[14:35] <cyphermox_> heh
[14:43] <mterry> didrocks, home scope c/r/p's some lenses.  It c/r's asklibreoffice, but doesn't p it.  Intentional?
[14:44] <didrocks> mterry: hem, I was testing you :)
[14:44] <didrocks> mterry: want to MP for it? ;)
[14:44] <mterry> k
[14:45] <mterry> didrocks, I'll just push
[14:45] <didrocks> mterry: ok ;)
[14:45] <didrocks> mterry: don't break an in-process merge though
[14:45] <mterry> guh fine  :)
[14:48] <mterry> didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity-scope-home/missing-p/+merge/154973
[14:48] <cyphermox> ritz__: hey, yeah it looks fine, just won't be exactly that patch
[14:49] <ritz__> cyphermox, thank you :)
[14:50] <ritz__> cyphermox, also, lp#965895, sru filled, with the debdiff
[14:50] <seb128> pitti, unping about hud template approval, got it done
[14:50] <ritz__> cyphermox, TIA
[14:50] <ritz__> let me know, if anything needs to fixed
[14:50] <ritz__> seb128, ty :)
[14:51] <ritz__> gn folks :)
[14:51] <cyphermox> dah, why did he leave so quickly :(
[15:00] <mterry> didrocks, seems like that privacy switch is not coded yet?  Bug 1158782 seems to think not, and I don't see RemoteContent in the home scope source
[15:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1158782 in unity (Ubuntu) "When privacy switch is on don't query client scopes with RemoteContent=true" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1158782
[15:00] <mterry> seems problematic
[15:01] <didrocks> mterry: no, it's in progress :)
[15:01] <didrocks> but noted
[15:04] <kenvandine> didrocks, yay... i see results in the friends lens from jamesh's branch :)
[15:05] <didrocks> \o/
[15:05] <kenvandine> didrocks, i see you played with it a bit
[15:05] <kenvandine> it's using the wrong renderer
[15:05] <kenvandine> but it's something :)
[15:05] <didrocks> yeah ;)
[15:05] <didrocks> kenvandine: do you mind switching to the right renderer?
[15:05] <kenvandine> is that a bug or something that doesn't exist anymroe?
[15:05] <didrocks> if you have time
[15:05] <kenvandine> sure
[15:05] <didrocks> kenvandine: I don't think so
[15:05] <didrocks> kenvandine: open a bug against unity
[15:05] <didrocks> (upstream)
[15:05] <didrocks> 100scopes
[15:05] <didrocks> for tag
[15:07] <kenvandine> didrocks, so it is using HORIZONTAL_TILE, you're saying you think that might just be a bug in unity right?
[15:08] <didrocks> kenvandine: yeah, probably
[15:17] <mdeslaur> didrocks: quick question: what creates the "unity" compiz profile when a user logs in?
[15:19] <seb128> mdeslaur, your computer does
[15:19] <seb128> :p
[15:19] <mdeslaur> seb128: oh! that would explain it :)
[15:19] <mdeslaur> hehe
[15:19] <mdeslaur> seb128: do you know the answer?
[15:20] <seb128> mdeslaur, the answer is "that's more complex that it should be"
[15:20] <seb128> mdeslaur, there is a profile copy on first login iirc
[15:20] <seb128> mdeslaur, for some reason which have to do with compiz having a backend for your storage backend
[15:21] <seb128> like cpp->gconf/gsettings/ini
[15:21] <seb128> mdeslaur, what are you trying to figure out?
[15:22] <mdeslaur> I am trying to enforce default gsettings for unity...but creating gschema.override file only seems to affect the "Default" compiz profile
[15:22] <mdeslaur> so I'm trying to figure out what exactly is creating the "unity" compiz profile
[15:35] <seb128> mdeslaur, try asking on #ubuntu-unity, sil2100 probably knows the details
[15:35] <mdeslaur> thanks seb128
[15:44] <pitti> seb128: langpacks> yes, I'm waiting for the first LP export, then I can build them
[15:44] <pitti> seb128: I can't approve imports or translations
[15:46] <seb128> pitti, launchpadlibrarian.net/134834696/ubuntu-raring-translations.tar.gz
[15:46] <seb128> pitti, isn't that the export?
[15:46] <seb128> pitti, it's listed on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+language-packs
[15:46] <seb128> pitti, or do you need something else?
[15:46] <pitti> oh, nice!
[15:46] <pitti> no, that's it
[15:46] <seb128> pitti, great ;-)
[15:48] <pitti> seb128: it's not cron'ed yet, as the first (full) build needs some special care
[15:49] <seb128> pitti, ok
[15:50] <pitti> seb128: I started the build of the packages now
[15:50] <seb128> pitti, danke!
[15:50] <pitti> seb128: I guess I won't get to testing/uploading them before Monday, though
[15:50] <seb128> we will maybe have updated translations in raring :p
[15:50] <seb128> pitti, just discovered today that quite some templates are outdated in raring
[15:50] <pitti> our in-laws are visiting over the weekend (they are already here), so I won't be able to steal away much for computer stuff
[15:51] <seb128> pitti, no worry, you shouldn't work in the W.E! no hurry as well, can wait next week
[15:52] <seb128> pitti, we need to figure how to make rosetta import the .pot from the daily build ppas, we overlooked that part with the daily landing
[15:52] <seb128> pitti, I guess didrocks will talk to you about that
[15:52] <pitti> oh, we don't grab the translation tarballs from that, I suppose
[15:52] <pitti> bad
[15:52] <didrocks> yeah, but in a call :)
[15:52] <seb128> yeah, that sucks
[15:53] <pitti> so we need to enable pkgbinarymangler in those PPAs, and teach LP to look at those
[15:53] <seb128> and we didn't have updates langpacks to say "hold on, my translations are uptodate, how much unity is not translated"
[15:53] <seb128> I just noticed today while checking something else
[15:53] <seb128> pitti, seems about right
[15:53] <seb128> well, not before next week in any case
[15:54] <seb128> friday 5pm is not the time to start figuring that out ;-)
[15:54] <seb128> no hurry as well, we did manual uploads or updated .pot meanwhile
[15:55] <kenvandine> cyphermox, autopilot question
[15:55] <kenvandine> 11:49:59.775 WARNING __init__:197 - Caught exception while searching for autopilot interface: 'DBusException("Could not get PID of name 'org.freedesktop.DBus': no such name",)'
[15:55] <kenvandine> what do you think could be causing that?
[15:56] <greyback> anyone have any idea why I have no messaging indicator in my panel?
[15:56] <kenvandine> it continues to timeout while trying to find the object
[15:56] <cyphermox> kenvandine: no clue
[15:56] <cyphermox> kenvandine: ask mzanetti in #ubuntu-unity
[15:56] <kenvandine> cyphermox, can you point me to an example of anything using it?
[15:56] <cyphermox> I really only did the packaging ;)
[15:56] <kenvandine> i just used qtcreator to add autopilot tests to my project :)
[15:56] <cyphermox> (actually, the packaging review)
[15:56] <kenvandine> ok
[15:57] <cyphermox> mzanetti has a branch ready to land for autopilot-qt test examples, give me a second
[15:57] <cyphermox> kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/autopilot-qt/add-tests/+merge/153695
[15:57] <cyphermox> that might be good examples
[16:00] <seb128> greyback, is indicator-messages installed?
[16:00] <seb128> greyback, is that a new install?
[16:00] <greyback> seb128: yep, package installed. It's an upgrade, but it was missing in quantal for me too, somehow
[16:01] <seb128> greyback, I think the new design makes it being hidden until you start/configure an app using it
[16:01] <seb128> greyback, e.g empathy, xchat(-gnome), tb...
[16:01] <greyback> seb128: I've Empathy running, I'll look into its settings.
[16:01] <greyback> indicator-messages-service is running...
[16:01] <seb128> greyback, larsu can probably help you
[16:02] <greyback> seb128: ok thanks!
[16:02] <seb128> yw
[16:02] <greyback> i'm loving the new icons, they're gorgeous
[16:08] <seb128> greyback, oh, random comment, empathy by itself doesn't integrate to the indicator-messages, you need telepathy-indicator
[16:08] <seb128> greyback, just in case you don't have this one installed for some reason
[16:08] <greyback> seb128: yep I have that too
[16:09] <seb128> larsu, ^ help :p
[16:09] <greyback> I'll wait for larsu :)
[16:11] <larsu> greyback: hey :) Are indicator-messages-service and telepathy-indicator running?
[16:11] <larsu> and do you have at least one account set up in empathy?
[16:12] <greyback> larsu: yes, yes and yes
[16:12] <larsu> interesting.....
[16:13] <larsu> what does `gsettings get com.canonical.indicator.messages applications` give you?
[16:14] <greyback> larsu: ['gwibber.desktop', 'empathy.desktop', 'thunderbird.desktop', 'redditredditcom.desktop', 'telephony-app.desktop', 'telephony-app-sms.desktop', 'telephony-app-phone.desktop', 'GMailmailgooglecom.desktop', 'xchat.desktop']
[16:14] <larsu> and you don't see the messaging menu at all?
[16:14] <larsu> this is weird...
[16:14] <greyback> nope, sorry. I've not seen it for some time actually. In quantal too :(
[16:15] <seb128> greyback, that's standard unity, not your own hacked version, right? ;-)
[16:15] <larsu> seb128: lol
[16:15] <greyback> seb128: it's all legit :)
[16:15] <seb128> larsu, well, unity-2d hacker, you never know :p
[16:15] <greyback> :D
[16:16] <larsu> greyback: so I guess you've already restarted the messaging service? (if only by restarting your machine)
[16:16] <seb128> greyback, I guess it's not there if you keyboard navigate left/right? (e.g not an icon issue)?
[16:16] <greyback> larsu: I killed the process, I think it respawned
[16:16] <larsu> yeah, that's what it does
[16:16] <seb128> greyback, I mean if you you open another indicator and do left/right
[16:16] <greyback> seb128: good idea. Checking, it's definitely not there
[16:16] <seb128> it's not opened on the way at some point?
[16:17] <seb128> k...
[16:18] <greyback> uh oh, version "12.10.6+bzr340+pkg0~quantal1" looks very wrong
[16:18] <greyback> for indicator-messages
[16:18] <greyback> must be an old PPA breaking everything. Feck, sorry guys
[16:18] <larsu> greyback: just to be sure it's not the panel's fault: install libindicator3-tools and do `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-loader3 /usr/lib/indicators3/7/libmessaging.so`
[16:18] <larsu> OH
[16:18] <larsu> yeah, upgrade to a new version first, please ;)
[16:19] <greyback> I'm just surprised an old quantal version wasn't replaced by raring
[16:21] <seb128> greyback, buggy ppa versioning :-(
[16:21] <seb128> greyback, we are on 12.10.6daily
[16:22] <greyback> seb128: so I see yes.
[16:22] <seb128> greyback, just sudo apt-get install indicator-messages/raring
[16:22] <seb128> greyback, you might want to "dpkg -l | grep ~quantal"
[16:22] <greyback> seb128: I'm doing a PPA purge too, just to be safe
[16:22] <larsu> seb128: ooh, I didn't know about this syntax
[16:22] <seb128> in case you have other packages in the same state
[16:22] <seb128> larsu, ;-)
[16:22] <greyback> seb128: that's a nice tip, thanks!
[16:22] <seb128> larsu, you can use =<version> or /<serie>
[16:23] <greyback> kewl
[16:23] <larsu> seb128: yes, I know about =version, but then you have to know the exact version...
[16:23] <larsu> awesome
[16:23]  * larsu wants to install something now to try it out
[16:24] <seb128> larsu, enable a quantal source and do apt-get install eog/quantal :p
[16:24] <larsu> hehe
[16:32]  * Laney goes away for a short while - on holiday for the next two weeks but might be around now and again. See you soon if you're not online before I go!
[16:33] <seb128> Laney, oh, enjoy your holidays!
[16:34] <Laney> Still around over the weekend if people are :-)
[16:34]  * Laney sneakily nominates some peer reviewers then scurries off
[16:34] <Laney> have a nice fortnight!
[16:43] <kenvandine> didrocks, quick, easy, obvious fix https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/unity-lens-friends/libunity7-busname-fix/+merge/155011
[16:43] <didrocks> kenvandine: approved :)
[16:43] <didrocks> pitti: seb128: we should discuss that on Monday :)
[16:44] <seb128> didrocks, +1
[16:44] <didrocks> (yeah, I'm way behind because of meeting/triaging issues)
[16:44] <kenvandine> didrocks, should i push that to the team branch?
[16:44] <kenvandine> i assume there is no merger for that :)
[16:44] <didrocks> kenvandine: yeah, there is no automerger yet
[16:44] <didrocks> kenvandine: there will be in ~1h
[16:44] <didrocks> :)
[16:44] <kenvandine> pushed
[16:44] <didrocks> sweet!
[16:44]  * kenvandine goes back to figuring out autopilot tests :)
[16:47] <didrocks> :)
[18:11] <tkamppeter> jasoncwarner_, hi
[19:36]  * didrocks waves good evening
[22:53] <rickspencer3> getting facebook photos in my dash is pretty cool
[23:08] <cyphermox> cool :)
[23:10] <cyphermox> robru: ping?
[23:19] <robru> cyphermox, oh hey... I can't remember what I wanted ;-)
[23:19] <cyphermox> robru: ah, ok :)
[23:21] <robru> cyphermox, it had to do with landing touch apps in raring. how's that going for you? most of my stuff is blocked on other packages that haven't landed yet
[23:22] <cyphermox> I was busy with the bluetooth and a bunch of other smaller details, I was starting now
[23:22] <cyphermox> are you block on anything mine?
[23:22] <cyphermox> I can do them now in priority, and it can go even faster assuming you help reviewing the packaging changes?
[23:35] <robru> cyphermox, can't remember now... something about autopilot, and libhud-qt-qml. you doing either of those?
[23:36] <cyphermox> we did land autopilot-qt yesterday
[23:36] <robru> cyphermox, oh great
[23:36] <cyphermox> libhud-qt-qml might be mine too, but was blocked on ted finishing up making hud work on desktop, IIRC
[23:36] <cyphermox> (checking)
[23:37] <cyphermox> yup, libhud-qt is mine, BLOCKED.
[23:37] <cyphermox> ted's WI is INPROGRESS
[23:37] <cyphermox> hmm
[23:38] <cyphermox> we should make a bot to find out the status of work items.
[23:38] <robru> yeah, I emailed ted about it already, but hadn't gotten a reply
[23:38] <robru> I should set my workitems to blocked ;-)