| ogra_ | rsalveti, \o/ | 00:01 |
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| ogra_ | rickspencer3, how would you expect that info to magically apper on your PC if you dont have any connetion to the system ? | 00:02 |
| ogra_ | you need either adb or ssh | 00:02 |
| rsalveti | rickspencer3: using adb would be easier | 00:03 |
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| rsalveti | adb shell cat /system/quantal-ubuntu_stamp | 00:04 |
| rsalveti | phablet-flash uses adb to detect the device type | 00:04 |
| ogra_ | does the sdk depend on adb ? | 00:05 |
| rsalveti | adb shell getprop | grep ro.product.device | 00:05 |
| ogra_ | i.e. if i didnt flash from the machine i run the sdk on | 00:05 |
| rsalveti | not sure | 00:06 |
| rsalveti | maybe it uses adb to forward the ssh port with the host? | 00:06 |
| * ogra_ didnt see any adb in todays seed addition | 00:06 | |
| ogra_ | (loic added the ubuntu-sdk to the ubuntu-touch-meta seed today) | 00:06 |
| rsalveti | well, no rickspencer3 anymore | 00:06 |
| rsalveti | how it connects with the device? | 00:07 |
| * rsalveti didn't used sdk yet | 00:07 | |
| * ogra_ neither | 00:07 | |
| rsalveti | bzoltan1: in case you're still alive ^ | 00:07 |
| ogra_ | i only watched the seed change today ... | 00:07 |
| ogra_ | ogra@anubis:~/Devel/seeds/ubuntu-touch.raring$ grep adb sdk | 00:08 |
| ogra_ | ogra@anubis:~/Devel/seeds/ubuntu-touch.raring$ | 00:08 |
| ogra_ | no adb | 00:09 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: ogra_: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/session-manager/adding_conf_mako_maguro/+merge/154837 | 00:33 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, hmm ? i thought i had added them | 00:35 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: nops, they were using the default values | 00:35 |
| rsalveti | as before | 00:35 |
| ogra_ | oh | 00:36 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: just to avoid issues later in case we change the default values | 00:36 |
| ogra_ | right, they had no entry in the original code | 00:36 |
| rsalveti | yup | 00:36 |
| ogra_ | phew | 00:36 |
| rsalveti | :-) | 00:36 |
| ogra_ | you shocked me for a second | 00:36 |
| ogra_ | :) | 00:36 |
| * ogra_ just reads all the pycon stuff ... oh my | 00:36 | |
| rsalveti | ogra_: didn't see that yet | 00:37 |
| ogra_ | http://www.dailydot.com/society/pycon-dongle-joke-misogyny-sexism-adria-richards/ | 00:39 |
| ogra_ | someone in the audience makes a sexistic joke and in the end all lost their jobs | 00:40 |
| ogra_ | escalation mgmt. +1 | 00:40 |
| rsalveti | haha, lemme see | 00:41 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: what a mess | 01:00 |
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| ogra_ | heh, yeah | 01:02 |
| brunost | bah I live in the wrong part of the world, such a PITA to get a nexus 10 in norway | 01:09 |
| juicyjones | brunost really? that is lame | 01:24 |
| brunost | juicyjones: yeah, small nation, small market no official release on the market here yet | 01:25 |
| juicyjones | ugh. the play store works though? | 01:25 |
| brunost | nope | 01:25 |
| brunost | not available here | 01:25 |
| juicyjones | wow that just seems like a big omission | 01:26 |
| brunost | yeah | 01:26 |
| brunost | I *can* use a proxy and order it from the UK or something, but once again a pain | 01:26 |
| juicyjones | just have a friend order one and ship it to you. but without the play store what would you do for apps? sideload them? | 01:26 |
| brunost | oh you can buy apps | 01:27 |
| brunost | just not anything else | 01:27 |
| juicyjones | well that's something | 01:27 |
| brunost | yup | 01:27 |
| juicyjones | You must know someone in the UK or US who can ship you one. | 01:28 |
| brunost | yeah I do | 01:28 |
| brunost | lived in the UK for 3 years | 01:28 |
| brunost | might just fly to london and meet up with some friends and grab a tablet at the same time | 01:28 |
| juicyjones | there you go | 01:29 |
| brunost | not that much more expensive to fly than to get it shipped anyways (oh the irony) | 01:29 |
| juicyjones | I would not be happy if I couldn't have gotten my N4 because of my location | 01:29 |
| brunost | except for the fact that a lot of stuff reaches this part of the world a lot later than the rest of the world its a nice place though | 01:30 |
| juicyjones | I would move to Norway in an instant if it were possible. | 01:30 |
| brunost | oh? | 01:30 |
| juicyjones | Not disparaging Seattle, it's the coolest country in the US. but I've always wanted to live in Europe | 01:30 |
| juicyjones | seattle is the coolest city* in ... | 01:31 |
| brunost | its not like norway is particulary warm though | 01:31 |
| brunost | it was over 10F today | 01:32 |
| brunost | WOHOO | 01:32 |
| rsalveti | crazy | 01:32 |
| rsalveti | and I'm complaining about 18C | 01:32 |
| brunost | and its dark most of the time during the winters, if you live really far north you don't see sunlight for like 3 months | 01:33 |
| brunost | and then its light all the time in the summer | 01:33 |
| rsalveti | yeah, I cannot live in a place like that | 01:33 |
| brunost | you adjust quickly | 01:33 |
| * rsalveti loves the strong sun we get everyday at brazil | 01:33 | |
| brunost | lived far up north for a year, I survived | 01:33 |
| brunost | though I am used to harsh climate | 01:34 |
| brunost | I become useless above 25C | 01:34 |
| brunost | ugh, if the temperature climbs over 25C that is | 01:34 |
| rsalveti | yeah, we had ~37C a few weeks ago | 01:34 |
| brunost | horrible | 01:35 |
| TheMuso | I think all you northerners are the only ones who have valid complaints about the cold. :) | 01:35 |
| brunost | haha true | 01:35 |
| TheMuso | rsalveti: Yeah here in Sydney we had at least 2 summer days in January over 40c. | 01:35 |
| brunost | our complaints about warmth are completely invalid though | 01:35 |
| rsalveti | TheMuso: yeah, hard think at that temperature | 01:35 |
| brunost | 15C == Shorts and t-shirt weather | 01:36 |
| TheMuso | rsalveti: Agreed, which is why I invested in air conditioning. Sydney summers can get rather hot. | 01:36 |
| brunost | more than 25C and people can't be fucked with work | 01:37 |
| IdleOne | Please keep the language clean | 01:37 |
| brunost | sorry | 01:38 |
| * brunost has a potty mouth | 01:38 | |
| juicyjones | brunost it's already as dark as it gets in the US here in Seattle. It's pitch black by 4 PM in december. | 01:44 |
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| brunost | at mid winter the sun rises at 10 and sets at 2-ish here | 01:47 |
| brunost | combining that with working nights means that I see the sun in the weekends during the winter | 01:48 |
| juicyjones | Yeah a seattleite wouldn't dislike that much more. we like our moody cozy winters. but it's not as cold here. | 01:50 |
| ricmm | rsalveti: yep | 02:06 |
| ricmm | rsalveti: binder crash thing, but I think its triggered by something else dying | 02:06 |
| rsalveti | yeah, kind of shell then binder | 02:09 |
| ricmm | rsalveti: anyways, some of that code is going away and some of it is getting reinforced | 02:12 |
| rsalveti | ricmm: yup, just saying the crash is still happen | 02:16 |
| rsalveti | to annoy you a bit | 02:16 |
| rsalveti | so you can fix it | 02:17 |
| rsalveti | :P | 02:17 |
| rsalveti | jezz, why no neon at tegra2, just to make our life harder | 02:17 |
| TheMuso | rsalveti: What are you guys supporting thats tegra 2? | 02:20 |
| TheMuso | I am surprised you mention it. | 02:20 |
| rsalveti | just trying to help some folks porting touch to tf101 (transformer) | 02:21 |
| rsalveti | which is a tegra 2 device | 02:21 |
| ricmm | rsalveti: tegra2 is a lost platform | 02:21 |
| rsalveti | but I cannot share my android binaries as all other devices I have support neon just fine | 02:21 |
| ricmm | lack of neon has been haunting us since a while ago | 02:21 |
| rsalveti | yup | 02:21 |
| rsalveti | I just hope to see a better i/o controller at tegra 4 | 02:22 |
| rsalveti | even tegra 3 kind of sucks regarding i/o | 02:22 |
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| bzoltan1 | om26er: https://launchpad.net/phone-app | 03:49 |
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| Mirv | I wonder if anyone eager to try out new stuff / break one's machine, using 12.04 or 12.10, would like to enable ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-beta-proper and ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-staging and then apt-get dist-upgrade + apt-get install ubuntu-sdk ? really no need if you want to focus on creating stuff instead of testing my packages :) | 09:14 |
| dholbach | good morning | 09:15 |
| Mirv | in addition to Qt 5.0.1 (which is already quite well tested), it brings qtbase compiled with GTK theme support (fixing qt creator fonts among else) and appmenu support | 09:15 |
| Mirv | it works fine on my precise machine so I'm not expecting problems, though | 09:16 |
| Mirv | and good noon, yes | 09:18 |
| ogra_ | bzoltan1, how does the sdk connect to a phone currently ? | 09:34 |
| ogra_ | bzoltan1, (using adb ?) | 09:34 |
| bzoltan1 | ogra_: primarily yes... and/or using ssh | 09:34 |
| bzoltan1 | but the ssh port forwarding is initiated from adb | 09:34 |
| ogra_ | bzoltan1, then we need to make sure the sdk has a dependency on adb | 09:35 |
| bzoltan1 | ogra_: Correct | 09:35 |
| ogra_ | i dont think it has atm | 09:35 |
| bzoltan1 | ogra_: let me check... but you could be right (what I hate) :) | 09:35 |
| ogra_ | at least not in what lool copied into the nes seeds | 09:35 |
| ogra_ | (which i think just comes from your current deps) | 09:36 |
| ogra_ | s/nes/new/ | 09:36 |
| bzoltan1 | ogra_: the ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins does recommed it | 09:37 |
| ogra_ | ok | 09:37 |
| ogra_ | thnen we should be fine | 09:37 |
| bzoltan1 | $ apt-cache show ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins|grep android-tools-adb | 09:37 |
| bzoltan1 | Recommends: android-tools-adb | 09:37 |
| ogra_ | bzoltan1, thanks ! | 09:37 |
| bzoltan1 | ogra_: no probs | 09:37 |
| lool | bzoltan1: ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins isn't in Ubuntu though | 09:41 |
| bzoltan1 | lool: damn, you caught me :) You are right | 09:42 |
| bzoltan1 | It is not yet in the archives | 09:42 |
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| Mirv | I wonder if anyone would like to sponsor lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtwebkit-opensource-src to raring?-) it was tested to run fine on a device and fixes our known issues. | 09:46 |
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| agcalamitaITA | The core apps not been updated for a while? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily | 10:18 |
| janimo | ogra_ do we have tools to mount/examing the sparse filesystems used by fastboot? I remember using some for N7 | 10:27 |
| ogra_ | yeah, in android-fsutils (or -tools i always forget) | 10:28 |
| janimo | ogra_, thanks, android-tools-fsutils, you remember well :) | 10:29 |
| ogra_ | haha | 10:29 |
| janimo | ogra_, no manpages but descriptive enough executable names in there | 10:31 |
| janimo | got it with simg2img | 10:31 |
| ogra_ | -h should work .. | 10:31 |
| ogra_ | and for missing manpages, blame xnox | 10:31 |
| ogra_ | :P | 10:31 |
| janimo | xnox, I hereby blame you for missing manpages | 10:31 |
| ogra_ | haha | 10:32 |
| janimo | ogra_, I am still debugging why I get weird .zip file names (which is likely only a symptom of a larger issue) | 10:32 |
| janimo | CM_BUILD not being set at all here | 10:32 |
| ogra_ | extremely weird | 10:32 |
| janimo | ogra_, when you built from source, how do you call brunch? | 10:32 |
| ogra_ | like described on the porting page ... | 10:32 |
| janimo | I see that only if the target name starts with cm_ does it source those makefiles | 10:32 |
| ogra_ | in fact i usually copy paste :) | 10:33 |
| xnox | janimo: > www.android.org | 10:33 |
| janimo | ogra_, the porting page unhelpfully says brunch <target> :) | 10:33 |
| ogra_ | heh, true | 10:33 |
| ogra_ | bunch i9100 in my case | 10:33 |
| janimo | not saying whether it is for ex full_mako-userdebug | 10:33 |
| janimo | or cm_mako-userdebug | 10:33 |
| ogra_ | oh, it would be brunch mako | 10:33 |
| janimo | the latter of course does not work as it is missing device/ and is the upstream target | 10:33 |
| ogra_ | for mako | 10:33 |
| ogra_ | no cm_ in there | 10:33 |
| janimo | unless I use full_mako-userdebug (the same as I'd pick from the launch menu) I get errors | 10:35 |
| janimo | build/core/product_config.mk:253: *** No matches for product "cm_mako". Stop. | 10:35 |
| janimo | I wonder what am I doing differently from everyone else :/ | 10:35 |
| ogra_ | try just "brunch mako" | 10:35 |
| janimo | ** Don't have a product spec for: 'cm_mako' | 10:35 |
| janimo | do I need to add extra repos from cm by hand? | 10:35 |
| ogra_ | no | 10:35 |
| janimo | ogra that is what I called, brunch mako | 10:36 |
| ogra_ | not for the four supported devices | 10:36 |
| janimo | right | 10:36 |
| ogra_ | ah, k | 10:36 |
| ogra_ | i thought you called cm_mako | 10:36 |
| janimo | but the confusion arises from our 4 supported devices being copies/forks/entirely separate devices from upstream's equivalently named ones | 10:36 |
| ogra_ | lets blame git then ... we should switch to bzr anyway :P | 10:36 |
| janimo | ogra_, can you get a build going in your repo workdir by just . build/envsetup.sh && brunch mako? | 10:37 |
| ogra_ | dunno, let me try | 10:37 |
| janimo | ogra_, but you have built a device from scratch so far since you have the correctly named zip files | 10:38 |
| ogra_ | yep | 10:38 |
| ogra_ | mako runs fine here | 10:38 |
| janimo | ogra_, sigh, no idea what's going on :/ | 10:40 |
| ogra_ | do a new repo sync ? | 10:40 |
| janimo | it is a fresh one from yesterday | 10:41 |
| ogra_ | (and keep a tarball of the tree right after syncing so you dont have to do it over and over) | 10:41 |
| janimo | ogra_, but brunch grouper seems to proceed | 10:41 |
| janimo | let's try that then | 10:41 |
| ogra_ | its compiling the kernel here now | 10:41 |
| janimo | ogra_, my mako setup must have been broken somehow, grouper is on its way without the error | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | weird | 10:42 |
| janimo | I'll just wait and see how the zipname turns out | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | janimo, FYI ... Package complete: /home/ogra/datengrab/phablet-android/out/target/product/mako/cm-10.1-20130322-UNOFFICIAL-mako.zip | 11:00 |
| agcalamitaITA | Anyone know of plans for Exchange email support in Ubuntu Touch? I know it's a sore subject within Ubuntu. Hence why I've not made the full switch from Windows yet. | 11:02 |
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| janimo | ogra_, grouper built correctly here as well. \o/ | 11:14 |
| janimo | ogra_, I wasted too much time on this, using the targets as presented by the lunch menu :( | 11:15 |
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| ogra_ | hikiko, hey | 11:37 |
| ogra_ | hikiko, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Upgrades ... | 11:38 |
| ogra_ | if you didnt upgrade for a long time you should better consider to flash from scratch | 11:38 |
| hikiko | thanks ogra_ :) | 11:38 |
| hikiko | yes that's what I ll do | 11:38 |
| hikiko | last time was 1 day before christmas... | 11:38 |
| ogra_ | make sure to have the new phablet-tools (from the public PPA) | 11:38 |
| ogra_ | then you vcan use pablet-flash -l (-l for "latest") that will get you the most recent daily | 11:39 |
| ogra_ | *phablet-flash | 11:39 |
| ogra_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install has the pointers to the PPA etc | 11:40 |
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| nik90 | mesq: thanks for the app paterns for clock...they look awesome!!!! | 12:36 |
| agcalamitaITA | nik90: You like? They do look really nice and funtional! | 12:37 |
| agcalamitaITA | functional* | 12:37 |
| Mrnerd | ok i forgot how to fix this | 12:37 |
| Mrnerd | http://pastebin.com/CfTrP1p3 | 12:37 |
| nik90 | aqcalamitaITA: I do have one question | 12:37 |
| nik90 | In the timer, how does one set the timer for more than an hour? Because the current design indicate a way to adjust the minute only | 12:38 |
| agcalamitaITA | Can you use the zoom? | 12:38 |
| nik90 | you mean the + and the - buttons? In the app paterns, it is used to increment/decrement by a minute | 12:39 |
| mesq | nik90: thanks and you're welcome too! | 12:41 |
| nik90 | mesq: I was just asking agcalamitaITA some questions regarding the timer | 12:41 |
| nik90 | maybe you can answer them for me | 12:41 |
| mesq | nik90: maybe tapping on the counter could give you a numpad to punch in any time in hh:mm:ss format | 12:42 |
| agcalamitaITA | Nope, sorry -- I mis-read the zoom function. It's part of the stopwatch. I'm sure you can add it manually or increment using the + and - buttons | 12:42 |
| nik90 | ok that is fine with me | 12:43 |
| Mrnerd | http://pastebin.com/CfTrP1p3 can anyone help me fix this I forgot what was needed to fix this | 12:43 |
| nik90 | because using the +,- buttons to change it all the way to say 02:45 is quite a tedious task..in which case we can click on the counter text and input it using a numpad | 12:43 |
| Mrnerd | http://pastebin.com/CfTrP1p3 | 12:47 |
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| Mrnerd | anyone?? | 12:54 |
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| pmcgowan | Mrnerd: hi whats up | 13:00 |
| Mrnerd | hey | 13:00 |
| Mrnerd | http://pastebin.com/CfTrP1p3 | 13:00 |
| Mrnerd | i keep getting this error I fixed it before its really simple.. i thought i fixed it but i guess i didnt | 13:01 |
| Mrnerd | i cant remember what i was told to do to fixi t | 13:01 |
| pmcgowan | who helped you last time? ogra_^^ | 13:02 |
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| Namidairo | "/home/mrnerdisg0d/" | 13:03 |
| * Namidairo facepalms | 13:03 | |
| Mrnerd | i cant remember. | 13:03 |
| Namidairo | guess what | 13:03 |
| Namidairo | this channel is logged | 13:03 |
| pmcgowan | right | 13:04 |
| Mrnerd | good luck finding it. | 13:04 |
| Mrnerd | where is it logged at? | 13:04 |
| Namidairo | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | 13:04 |
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| Mrnerd | my bad guys. | 13:16 |
| Mrnerd | phone started acting up. | 13:16 |
| Mrnerd | thanks namidairo | 13:24 |
| Mrnerd | thanks pmcgowan | 13:24 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, whats holding back phablet-tools from raring ? i will need it for the cdimage android builds | 13:25 |
| ogra_ | (happy to fix whats missing) | 13:25 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: hmmm... it should be there... let me check! | 13:27 |
| ogra_ | oh,, ignore me :P | 13:27 |
| * ogra_ should have checked before | 13:27 | |
| ogra_ | i need it in main though | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, awww ... !#/usr/bin/env python ... | 13:29 |
| ogra_ | that needs fixing | 13:30 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: to what? I'll fix. | 13:30 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: I just used what autopilot did, and that's in distro | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | the full path to the python interpreter .. | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | really ? | 13:31 |
| ogra_ | thats broken then, distro packages should not use env, else you risk breakage if someone puts his own python into /usr/local | 13:31 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: makes sense... I'll fix! | 13:32 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: ah, it's not anymore, disregard | 13:32 |
| ogra_ | but if autopilot changes it i probably miss a policy change, let me ask first | 13:32 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: no, autopilot is as you said the right way is | 13:33 |
| ogra_ | ah, phew | 13:34 |
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| saber_ | hello | 13:51 |
| saber_ | Anyone here ? | 13:52 |
| saber_ | I have a question, about the android devices supported by Ubuntu | 13:52 |
| saber_ | why the ubuntu community focus on devices made by google. All the devices are from "Nexus" family. | 13:53 |
| saber_ | ? | 13:53 |
| janimo | saber_, they are much easier to work with | 13:53 |
| ogra_ | because you dont need to (potentially illegally) root them | 13:53 |
| janimo | easy to unlock, impossible to brick, widely available and not too expensive without a contract | 13:53 |
| ogra_ | they are completely open | 13:54 |
| mhall119 | saber_: the Nexus devices were made for things like this | 13:54 |
| Mirv | saber_: that said, the community focus is everywhere, there are tens of community projects around https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices (and yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install only lists nexus) | 13:54 |
| janimo | saber_, and the aim of the project is to develop Ubuntu Touch, so the exact device used is of secondary importance | 13:54 |
| Mirv | but nexus family is the most obvious to work with | 13:54 |
| janimo | hence going with easiest | 13:54 |
| ogra_ | note that in the US rooting your phone is illegal since a few weeks | 13:54 |
| ogra_ | there is a new law in place | 13:55 |
| janimo | ogra_, I think that is about unlocking (using a carrier different from the one yuo bought the phone with) | 13:55 |
| ogra_ | i thought that included rooting | 13:55 |
| mhall119 | there seems to be some confusion around that | 13:55 |
| ogra_ | ah, k | 13:55 |
| mhall119 | honestly I don't know the details either | 13:56 |
| janimo | http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Basic_concepts | 13:56 |
| saber_ | I see now, I wonder if there a development difficulties related to drivers of the mobiles .?? | 13:56 |
| janimo | rooting and carrier unlocking and botloader unlocking, indeed confusing terminology | 13:56 |
| saber_ | Thank you a lot for those information. I have one last question, how may I participate in the development of this OS ? | 14:01 |
| rickspencer3 | hi saber_ there are lots of ways to participate | 14:04 |
| rickspencer3 | what are you good at, what do you like to do? | 14:04 |
| * rickspencer3 wonders if he missed some context | 14:04 | |
| janimo | rickspencer3, you did not AFAICT | 14:05 |
| Mirv | rsalveti: FYI from my point of view qt5-beta-proper is ready to be copied, although it can be done on Monday as well. I wrote to mailing lists earlier that I'd let people know when we're doing the copying, but I don't know yet... | 14:05 |
| Mirv | rsalveti: but I guess you'll first continue to do some testing with qt5-beta-proper anyhow. | 14:06 |
| saber_ | I like programming | 14:07 |
| rickspencer3 | saber_, like programming apps? kernel hacking? | 14:09 |
| saber_ | rickspencer3_, I'm using programming apps for android, but I want to start with kernel hacking with ubuntu, if it is possible of course | 14:10 |
| saber_ | rickspencer3_, I'm used to programming apps for android, but I want to start with kernel hacking with ubuntu, if it is possible of course | 14:10 |
| rickspencer3 | saber_, well, one area that would help a lot is making apps with the sdk | 14:11 |
| rickspencer3 | and contributing to the sdk | 14:11 |
| rickspencer3 | saber_, http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ | 14:11 |
| ogra_ | saber_, if you want to do kernel hacking you could start with doing a port to your favorite device https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | 14:13 |
| janimo | saber_, there are plenty of bugs in the various kernels used in Ubuntu. so a lot of opportunities to contribute, but I would also advise writing QML apps, porting your android ones and giving feedback | 14:13 |
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| saber_ | rickspencer3_ thank you a lot | 14:13 |
| janimo | working on the kernel is much more frustrating and has lesser impact on endusers | 14:13 |
| saber_ | ogra_ thank you a lot | 14:13 |
| janimo | unless you do it full time | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | janimo, btw, are you a "Ranger" now ? | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | :) | 14:15 |
| * ogra_ just saw the mail :) | 14:15 | |
| janimo | ogra_, so I read | 14:15 |
| ogra_ | thats the US variant of a canadian montie, right ? :) | 14:16 |
| * ogra_ wonders if jani has to wear uniform and moustache | 14:16 | |
| ogra_ | *mountie | 14:16 |
| saber_ | I like rangers, good luck Janimo_ | 14:17 |
| saber_ | Thank you every body, hope to see you soon, bye ;) | 14:17 |
| janimo | ogra_, for me Ranger implies Chuck Norris | 14:20 |
| janimo | not the canadian mounted police | 14:20 |
| janimo | or the Glasgow Rangers | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | OOOH ! | 14:22 |
| ogra_ | chucknorrisified ! | 14:23 |
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| tetractys | hi there :) i'm trying to install ubuntu mobile on a nexus 4 just unlocked (not rooted!) but the command 'phablet-flash -l' after pushing just downloaded the quantal-preinstalled-* on sdcard, tell me: adbd cannot run as root in production builds | 14:53 |
| tetractys | how workaround that? | 14:53 |
| tetractys | cwm+root? | 14:53 |
| agcalamitaITA | Can yu not use phablet-flash -b | 14:54 |
| tetractys | nexus4 was booted | 14:55 |
| tetractys | so no -b switch... | 14:55 |
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| agcalamitaITA | If it's booted to Android then run -- phablet-flash -b -l | 14:55 |
| tetractys | ok. ty. i'll try | 14:55 |
| agcalamitaITA | Once it's bootstrapped once, you can then run phablet-flash -l to install the latest daily build | 14:56 |
| tetractys | yep. at the moment it's downloading quantal-preinstalled-system-armel+mako.img | 14:57 |
| tetractys | :) | 14:57 |
| tetractys | i got it | 14:57 |
| tetractys | hehe | 14:57 |
| agcalamitaITA | tetractys: Sounds about right! | 15:03 |
| thomnico | latest daily build give me black screen at boot on nexus 7 ... any clue ? | 15:03 |
| agcalamitaITA | You deleted /data partition and tried again? | 15:04 |
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| thomnico | tried but failed | 15:04 |
| agcalamitaITA | Failed deleting it or faield after? | 15:04 |
| thomnico | had to revert to earlier version | 15:04 |
| thomnico | failed after | 15:05 |
| thomnico | even tried the full process (reflashing android) then -b -l | 15:05 |
| rickspencer3 | hey pmcgowan or bfiller is there a place where I can see what changed in the phablet image each day? | 15:07 |
| rickspencer3 | so I know what to try and stuff? | 15:08 |
| pmcgowan | rickspencer3: yes there is the change log | 15:08 |
| pmcgowan | hang on | 15:08 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks pmcgowan | 15:08 |
| pmcgowan | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-preinstalled.changelog | 15:08 |
| tetractys | @agcalamitaITA: after (i can imagine) the installation of just generated 'autodeploy.zip' , nexus4 restars but screen remain blank. how to wipe /data? | 15:08 |
| pmcgowan | pretty sparse today and it broke the build :( | 15:09 |
| rickspencer3 | pmcgowan, so I shouldn't update today? | 15:09 |
| rickspencer3 | I wonder if I can add a feature to the qt-creator plugin that displays the days change log | 15:10 |
| rickspencer3 | that would be cool | 15:10 |
| rickspencer3 | and maybe also displays the status of the build so you know if you should update | 15:10 |
| pmcgowan | rickspencer3: wait for the rebuild, the fix was already made | 15:10 |
| rickspencer3 | pmcgowan, will do | 15:11 |
| pmcgowan | it was trivial but broke startup | 15:11 |
| rickspencer3 | ack | 15:11 |
| tetractys | please, can anyone remember me the method for wiping /data? | 15:11 |
| agcalamitaITA | Can you access it over adb | 15:12 |
| tetractys | yep bu as user ($) not as root (#) | 15:12 |
| tetractys | ... | 15:13 |
| tetractys | adb shell -> $ prompt | 15:13 |
| tetractys | sorry but i have to leave. thank you for your advices. | 15:14 |
| tetractys | see you all soon. | 15:14 |
| llusato | hello, to run ubuntu phone do I need an cortex a9 processor or can it be an A15 processor? | 15:45 |
| llusato | I mean, ubuntu only runs on Cortex A9 processors or can run in Cortex A15 or A7 processors? | 15:48 |
| pmcgowan | llusato: it can run on A15 | 15:48 |
| omac | does anyone here have an advent vega(aka p10an01 aka Viewsonic Viewpad 10s aka Nvidia Shuttle)? | 15:48 |
| llusato | ok and in A7? | 15:48 |
| janimo | rsalveti, found the issue with cm-.zip with ogra's help. I was calling brunch full_mako-userdebug | 15:49 |
| janimo | instead of brunch mako | 15:49 |
| janimo | I thought using the options presented by the lunch menu are the ones to be used | 15:49 |
| llusato | many thanks and a last question can ubuntu run on an A7 Cortex processor? | 15:49 |
| rsalveti | janimo: oh, right | 15:50 |
| pmcgowan | rsalveti: we dont run on A7 anymore do we | 15:50 |
| rsalveti | well, the A7 is the new one for big.LITTLE | 15:50 |
| rsalveti | which is armv7 compatible | 15:50 |
| rsalveti | the naming is quite a mess I must say | 15:50 |
| omac | I'm getting closer to repeating the build for VEGABEAN(CM10.1) for Advent Vega. This is my first step before tweaking it for Ubuntu-touch stuff. | 15:50 |
| janimo | rsalveti, it is confusing that one has the options cm_mako and the other two as well | 15:50 |
| rsalveti | we're compatible with the armv7 instruction set (cortex-a8 and cortex-a9) | 15:51 |
| rsalveti | also compatible with A7 and A15 based cpus, which are part of big.little | 15:51 |
| llusato | so theoretically ubuntu can also run on Cortex A7 processors isn't it? | 15:52 |
| omac | http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/69585-vegabean-android-jellybean-advent-vega-aka-p10an01-aka-nvidia-shuttle-aka-viewsonic-viewpad-10s/#entry382167 | 15:52 |
| rsalveti | yup, the instruction set for A7 and A15 are the same | 15:52 |
| llusato | ok many thanks | 15:53 |
| llusato | so if I but an MTK processor which is a Cortex A7 processor should be supported by Ubuntu, isn't it? | 15:53 |
| omac | nvidia's kernel is built with hardfp for cardhu(tegra3) and ventana(tegra2). I'm still unsure if hardfp can be done for older generation harmony(tegra250), but it seems so. Can someone here confirm this? | 15:54 |
| pmcgowan | rsalveti: of course right | 15:54 |
| omac | Someone built an ubuntu 11.04 for Advent Vega in 2011, but it's armel(softfp) not armhf(hardfp). | 15:56 |
| rsalveti | pmcgowan: soon we'll have A53, A58, whatever more weird naming ARM can come with | 15:56 |
| omac | By extension, that's why I believe getting ubuntu touch on this tablet should be doable. | 15:56 |
| pmcgowan | right just learned about those a while back | 15:56 |
| llusato | it's quite confusing because in ubuntu phone webpage they say that the low-end phones will run just on Cortex A9 processors, but now I see it can also run on Cortex A7 and A15 processors. | 15:56 |
| rsalveti | hahah | 15:57 |
| pmcgowan | that was intended to use A9 as a lower end processor example | 15:57 |
| rsalveti | it's because cortex A7 is more recent than A9 | 15:57 |
| pmcgowan | not a restriction | 15:57 |
| rsalveti | which is a pain indeed | 15:57 |
| llusato | :-) | 15:58 |
| rsalveti | A7 should be better an A8 and A9 | 15:58 |
| rsalveti | *than | 15:58 |
| llusato | ok thanks again for you explanation | 15:58 |
| llusato | its clearer now | 15:59 |
| rsalveti | Mirv: you mean copying them to the proper ppa? | 15:59 |
| rsalveti | Mirv: I thought we'd just use the preparation ppa instead | 15:59 |
| rsalveti | as copying can take a while | 15:59 |
| rsalveti | but if you still want to keep the preparation ppa for other work, we can indeed copy them over to the proper ppa | 15:59 |
| llusato | so A7 should be better than an A8 and A9? isn't it? | 15:59 |
| rsalveti | yup | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | rsalveti: found it, I had a typo in the email addy | 16:00 |
| rsalveti | we have quad core A7 :-) | 16:00 |
| llusato | ok thanks. | 16:00 |
| llusato | bye | 16:00 |
| llusato | :-) | 16:00 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: :-) | 16:00 |
| llusato | so Ubuntu could run on most of the ARM processors | 16:01 |
| llusato | thanks good job keep on you're in the right way | 16:02 |
| omac | I'm still having an annoying build error, but most of it is building now. I wish I had more verbose from brunch shuttle. It sucks for me at present because I don't know which 'src' directory is not found in the error. | 16:02 |
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| rsalveti | llusato: yeah, we're just incompatible with armv5 and armv6 based cpus | 16:05 |
| llusato | ok. thanks and bye! | 16:08 |
| jair | /exit | 16:13 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: qml-phone-shell : Depends: libunity-core-6.0-5 (>= 4.14.2) but it is not going to be installed | 16:28 |
| rsalveti | image build failed | 16:28 |
| rsalveti | probably because of the new unity stuff | 16:28 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: ^ | 16:28 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, I'm trying here | 16:28 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: so build is failing... | 16:29 |
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| sergiusens | Saviq: now that you are here, any reason for needing unity? | 16:30 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, that's quantal? | 16:30 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, UnityCore | 16:30 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: yup | 16:30 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, hmm, everything should be built there | 16:30 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, we're considering extracting UnityCore from unity, potentially even putting it with our own code | 16:31 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, it makes no sens to build bamf and unity just for the sake of having UnityCore | 16:31 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, but for now I'm just trying to bump all the needed packages | 16:32 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: could be because unity is still building | 16:32 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, yeah probably | 16:32 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, it's just waiting to be published | 16:32 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: cool, will trigger another build then | 16:33 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: did you just rebase the version or the code as well? | 16:33 |
| rsalveti | just wondering about any possible regression we might have | 16:33 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, no, just version bump | 16:34 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: cool | 16:34 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, I'm not courageous enough to rebase unity... | 16:35 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: ok, because it fails for raring | 16:35 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: right, we'll need to do that for s though | 16:35 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, after bamf builds it shouldn't | 16:35 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: ah, ok | 16:35 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, sergiusens when we extract UnityCore we should be fine again | 16:35 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: right, cool | 16:36 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: what's the timeframe for that? | 16:36 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, early next week | 16:37 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, I just wanted a quick'n'dirty fix now | 16:37 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: ok, I'll wait for unity for raring next week and focus on nux and friends | 16:39 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, it should build in the PPA for raring as soon as bamf builds, so then we can bump qml-phone-shell | 16:40 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, and we should be good temporarily | 16:40 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, and we don't need nux for raring in the ppa, distro is godo | 16:41 |
| Saviq | good | 16:41 |
| wanvo | Hi all | 16:42 |
| wanvo | I have a problem with install ubuntu touch | 16:43 |
| wanvo | after deployed, my nexus 4 is booted to black screen | 16:43 |
| wanvo | I follow the intructions and " try wiping the /data partition on your device and redeploy" | 16:44 |
| wanvo | but how to redeploy ? | 16:44 |
| rsalveti | wanvo: with current daily? | 16:45 |
| rsalveti | it's broken, we're trying to fix it | 16:45 |
| sergiusens | wanvo: rsalveti adding the phablet-team/ppa and updating will probably fix it now that ubuntu-session is done | 16:46 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: true | 16:46 |
| rsalveti | or just creating /home/phablet/.ubuntu-session/logs | 16:46 |
| wanvo | phablet-flash -b -l | 16:47 |
| wanvo | I install follow that command | 16:47 |
| sergiusens | wanvo: doesn't matter how you installed ;-) | 16:47 |
| sergiusens | wanvo: we are telling you, you can either wait or update the package :-) | 16:48 |
| wanvo | ok, So how can I do ? | 16:48 |
| sergiusens | wanvo: is this your first time with ubuntu? If not, just add the phablet-team ppa and apt-get update/upgrade from an adb shell into the ubuntu chroot | 16:49 |
| sergiusens | wanvo: or wait ~1hour and rinse and repeat what you did | 16:49 |
| * sergiusens thinks it might be 2 hours | 16:49 | |
| sergiusens | wanvo: or install yesterdays build | 16:49 |
| wanvo | I'm running update | 16:49 |
| wanvo | :D, nothing for new update package | 16:50 |
| wanvo | How to install "yesterdays build" | 16:50 |
| wanvo | Thanks all, maybe I will try in next days, my nexus 4 is in bootloader screen :( | 16:53 |
| rsalveti | well, you can try yesterday's build with phablet-flash -u http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130321/ | 16:55 |
| pmcgowan | rsalveti: awe I just got a call from 0000000000 | 16:56 |
| rsalveti | pmcgowan: hm, probably hidden number | 16:57 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: are you creating a new launchpad project to host the unity piece you are extracting? | 16:58 |
| sergiusens | Saviq: if yes, and already have a name for it, I can look into creating the jenkins build jobs today | 16:58 |
| rsalveti | boiko: awe: did we ever investigate how to deal with hidden numbers when dealing with calls? | 16:59 |
| rsalveti | pmcgowan just got a call from 0000000000 | 16:59 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: feels like a phone from 10 years ago! | 16:59 |
| boiko | rsalveti: so, we have some code in phone-app for that, unknown and private numbers are identified by -1 and -2 (-2 and -1, don't really remember) | 17:00 |
| boiko | rsalveti: but the implementation in telepathy-ofono is probably missing, does ofono have special flags for those? | 17:01 |
| jair | excuse me all, is there an image I can install on a Samsung galaxy S III (SCH-I535)? | 17:02 |
| rsalveti | boiko: not sure, would need to investigate that | 17:02 |
| jair | I am really interested in testing it and using it on this phone. | 17:02 |
| rsalveti | just curious about why 00000 | 17:03 |
| rsalveti | might be the way rild is doing hidden numbers | 17:03 |
| boiko | rsalveti: might be | 17:03 |
| Saviq | sergiusens, nah, we'll see next week | 17:04 |
| rsalveti | boiko: added as a wi at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-telephony-stack | 17:06 |
| Anidel | hi everyone... | 17:06 |
| boiko | rsalveti: nice! thanks | 17:06 |
| Anidel | sorry to come here just for help, but anyone's having issues with their phone not starting up on Ubuntu Touch ? On mine it used to work, then I used QtCreator interface to flash daily image and since then, it won't start in Ubuntu anymore. | 17:08 |
| Anidel | I can flash it back to Android fine, but can't restart it in Ubuntu at all. | 17:08 |
| janimo | rsalveti, any idea why flashing a recent daily with autodeploy.zip results in lack of GUI? I realized my device not booting was just a daily I downloaded two days ago. With the 95 build as used by flash-tools it works | 17:08 |
| janimo | using the same system.img (this is on mako now) | 17:09 |
| Anidel | ah I see it seems normal with latest daily ? :) | 17:09 |
| Anidel | but I'm also flashing with phablet ... | 17:09 |
| rsalveti | current daily image is broken, a new one should be landing in ~2h | 17:10 |
| janimo | rsalveti, thanks | 17:10 |
| sergiusens | janimo: Anidel todays build is broken, a new one is being made | 17:10 |
| rsalveti | meanwhile you can enable the ppa and update the packages or simply flash yesterday's image | 17:10 |
| Anidel | allright...but phablet is also downloading latest one? | 17:10 |
| rsalveti | janimo: but you said a previous one didn't work for you | 17:10 |
| janimo | sergiusens, rsalveti but I had the same with an image downloaded earlier this week | 17:10 |
| janimo | so may be a different issue | 17:11 |
| rsalveti | janimo: from 95 we might have changes at platform-api and hybris | 17:11 |
| janimo | still, using 95/ works | 17:11 |
| janimo | but I am using a system.img built from sources synced yesterday | 17:11 |
| rsalveti | janimo: can you check the bzr revs of your platform-api and hybris branches/ | 17:11 |
| rsalveti | ? | 17:11 |
| sergiusens | janimo: black screen is the effect for many causes | 17:11 |
| rsalveti | janimo: logcat will usually tell you more, but I believe you'll probably see a segfault at ubuntuappmanager and qml-phone-shell | 17:12 |
| rsalveti | it seems we broke the api compatibility with the latest changes at platform-api | 17:12 |
| janimo | platform- version 0.18 (rev 44) | 17:12 |
| janimo | hybris revno 123 | 17:12 |
| janimo | rsalveti, ^ | 17:13 |
| rsalveti | janimo: hm, latest for both | 17:13 |
| rsalveti | janimo: mind pasting your logcat? | 17:13 |
| janimo | rsalveti, a moment | 17:14 |
| janimo | rsalveti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5637562/ | 17:16 |
| rsalveti | janimo: hm, seems the ubuntu container wasn't even started | 17:18 |
| rsalveti | no message from hybris or ubuntuappmanager at all | 17:18 |
| janimo | rsalveti, I'll flash the working image and compare logcats | 17:19 |
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| rsalveti | janimo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5637572/ | 17:21 |
| rsalveti | from mako | 17:21 |
| rsalveti | janimo: see that there are quite a few other messages related with the ubuntuappmanager | 17:22 |
| rsalveti | also suggest to try to initialize the container by hand to see what happens | 17:22 |
| janimo | rsalveti, ubuntu_chroot shell you mean? | 17:22 |
| Anidel | sergiusens: yup thanks! | 17:23 |
| rsalveti | janimo: that to check if the files are correctly in place, but without any argument to start upstart | 17:24 |
| rsalveti | just ubuntu_chroot | 17:24 |
| janimo | rsalveti, root@android:/ # ubuntu_chroot | 17:26 |
| janimo | mount: Device or resource busy | 17:26 |
| janimo | swapon: /data/ubuntu/SWAP.swap: Device or resource busy | 17:26 |
| janimo | then it rebooted | 17:26 |
| janimo | rsalveti, I'll test the new image in 2 h, in the meantime will try the tf101 again with the known good image | 17:27 |
| rsalveti | janimo: hm, then it was probably up already | 17:27 |
| rsalveti | janimo: just check with ps to see if can identify any upstart or ubuntu related service | 17:27 |
| rsalveti | if so, then the container is up correctly | 17:27 |
| rsalveti | janimo: right, ok | 17:29 |
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| dholbach | rsalveti, sergiusens: what do you think about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/wingray#Redistributability? | 17:32 |
| janimo | rsalveti, /system/bin/ubuntuappmanager is running accoring to ps | 17:33 |
| janimo | the only service that look ubuntuish is NetworkManager | 17:33 |
| janimo | the rest of the daemons nare rooted in /system/bin | 17:34 |
| janimo | /usr/bin/powerd may be another that is up | 17:34 |
| rsalveti | dholbach: let me see | 17:38 |
| rsalveti | janimo: so it seems the container is up | 17:39 |
| rsalveti | might be due ubuntu-session then | 17:39 |
| rsalveti | lets try again with the newer image once it's out | 17:39 |
| rsalveti | dholbach: non-commercial redistribution of the Authorized Android Enabled Device Software (the "Limited Purpose"). You may grant your end users the right to use the Software for the Limited Purpose. | 17:42 |
| rsalveti | seems we're good | 17:43 |
| rsalveti | let me check the original license file | 17:43 |
| * dholbach dances the samba | 17:43 | |
| rsalveti | oh, didn't know the binaries were available at the google website | 17:43 |
| rsalveti | guess they can probably fit at the same model as we have for the nexus based devices | 17:44 |
| rsalveti | and we can also start producing it as well | 17:44 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: ogra_: pmcgowan: seems we can enable the build for Motorola Xoom as well | 17:45 |
| rsalveti | do we want to land it together with the other images at cdimage? | 17:45 |
| ogra_ | do we want to support it ? | 17:46 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: I don't see why not (community support) | 17:46 |
| ogra_ | ok | 17:47 |
| ogra_ | i didnt think we wanted to actually do community builds | 17:47 |
| pmcgowan | nice | 17:47 |
| pmcgowan | as long as the distribution stuff is clear | 17:47 |
| ogra_ | since once we have like 50 community supported devices building an image will take a day or so | 17:47 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: well, we could provide at least a way to build and share them | 17:47 |
| rsalveti | we cannot have 50 supported devices unfortunately | 17:48 |
| ogra_ | i would add all the code to git but not do regulatr builds | 17:48 |
| rsalveti | pmcgowan: yeah, seems we can distribute them just like the nexus ones | 17:48 |
| * ogra_ is just concerned by raising build times with each port we roll an image for) | 17:48 | |
| rsalveti | maybe we could build it separately from the others, not sure | 17:49 |
| ogra_ | "if you support motorola xoom, why don't you support my xperia Z ?" | 17:49 |
| rsalveti | it's just that this is the first case of a community oriented build that we can actually build and deploy like we do for the nexus devices | 17:49 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: can we distribute the files? | 17:50 |
| ogra_ | if we commit to roll images for community supported image we eventually need to do it for all of them | 17:50 |
| rsalveti | that's the main question and concern around the other devices | 17:50 |
| ogra_ | well, my main concern is that a build already takes 1h now | 17:50 |
| ogra_ | for four device types only | 17:50 |
| rsalveti | sure, ~20 mins per flavour | 17:50 |
| rsalveti | that's we could think about doing that separately | 17:51 |
| ogra_ | so 200min for 40 devices ... | 17:51 |
| rsalveti | we will not have 40 devices... | 17:51 |
| rsalveti | it'd be awesome if we could though | 17:51 |
| ogra_ | we have 40 "kind of works" ports on the list | 17:51 |
| ogra_ | or so ... i didnt actually count | 17:51 |
| ogra_ | but there is a lot | 17:52 |
| rsalveti | sure, but I'd think we cannot distribute images for them due legal restrictions | 17:52 |
| rsalveti | it's almost impossible to find devices which allow us to distribute binaries | 17:52 |
| ogra_ | ok | 17:52 |
| rsalveti | this is the first case :-) | 17:52 |
| mhall119 | ogra_: I don't think we'd need to support all community builds | 17:53 |
| mhall119 | just like not all Ubuntu flavors become official ones | 17:53 |
| ogra_ | no, but people will ask "why is my port not supported" once we go beyond the nexus set | 17:53 |
| pmcgowan | rsalveti: boiko I did a test where I blocked my incoming number, and the nexus did not even display the call | 17:53 |
| mhall119 | our resources are limited, people understand that, so we can pick which ones will give the most benefit with the resources we have | 17:54 |
| mhall119 | ogra_: yup, they will | 17:54 |
| ogra_ | if there are legal restrictions we indeed cant build them | 17:54 |
| mhall119 | yes, if we legally can't then we can't | 17:54 |
| boiko | pmcgowan: yes, well, rsalveti is going to investigate that in the ofono level | 17:54 |
| ogra_ | but i suspect of the ~40 devices there will be more that have no legal issues | 17:55 |
| pmcgowan | boiko: I saw two behaviors, a random call from 000, and my blocked call which did not even get answered | 17:55 |
| ogra_ | will we start building for them too ? | 17:55 |
| mhall119 | ogra_: but if we can legally distribute, and we have the resources to build and distribute some communty ports, then we should do that | 17:55 |
| rsalveti | pmcgowan: interesting, but yet, we never investigated this behavior at the ofono level | 17:55 |
| ogra_ | tahts my point, each port we roll adds 20min | 17:55 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: rsalveti I say we build community ones in a different path? Also make phablet tools force you to add --comunity so it's clear perhaps | 17:56 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: maybe | 17:56 |
| ogra_ | i dont care about the naming | 17:56 |
| dholbach | sergiusens, why "--community"? | 17:56 |
| rsalveti | but we could build them using jenkins for example | 17:56 |
| ogra_ | but i woould like to be able to just run "build" on the build server and have all images come out at the rear end | 17:56 |
| rsalveti | and the "official ones" via cdimage | 17:56 |
| dholbach | if it's distributable it'd be great if we did that | 17:57 |
| ogra_ | no | 17:57 |
| sergiusens | dholbach: if it breaks, we are not in urge to fix... not sayning won't fix, just not in _urge_ | 17:57 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, that defetas the purpose ... | 17:57 |
| dholbach | sergiusens, we could print a disclaimer for some of the devices | 17:57 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: not necessarily | 17:57 |
| dholbach | say something like "this is not development focus, yada yada yada" | 17:57 |
| ogra_ | all should come from the same builder so we dont run into environmental differences | 17:57 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: rsalveti can't use jenkins for external, IS won't allow it | 17:57 |
| rsalveti | we just want to help people bringing new ports, and providing a build infra might be enough, if we don't want to affect the other images from cdimage for example | 17:57 |
| sergiusens | sorry s/external/distribution | 17:57 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, phew | 17:57 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, i understand that and i dont want to be a blocker | 17:58 |
| ogra_ | but i thihnk we should have a plan before blindly starting to add images | 17:58 |
| dholbach | ogra_, yeah stop blocking! :-P | 17:58 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: sure, that's why we're discussing it here :-) | 17:58 |
| ogra_ | :) | 17:58 |
| rsalveti | to try to identify a plan :-) | 17:58 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: rsalveti I can create a new build job out of band from the nexus line | 17:58 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: create a blueprint ;-) | 17:59 |
| ogra_ | one more wont harm but i expect there to be more | 17:59 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: and a session :-) | 17:59 |
| dholbach | if the number of devices which have redistributable blogs is very limited anyway.... | 17:59 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, :P | 17:59 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: yeah | 17:59 |
| * ogra_ has no prob if someone distributes his blog :P | 17:59 | |
| dholbach | bah | 18:00 |
| dholbach | long day | 18:00 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: will create the bp and put you as assignee :P | 18:00 |
| * sergiusens 's blog is on github, can be forked :-P | 18:00 | |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, add it ... i'll think about how to do it on cdimage | 18:00 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: sure | 18:00 |
| dholbach | yeeeeehaw | 18:00 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: I can fill in the gaps, but no idea how to create those beasts | 18:00 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, be careful with "forking" ... think of pycon | 18:00 |
| rsalveti | oh dear | 18:00 |
| rsalveti | friday | 18:00 |
| ogra_ | :) | 18:00 |
| * sergiusens doesn't want to be fired | 18:00 | |
| sergiusens | :-P | 18:00 |
| ogra_ | dongleforked ... | 18:00 |
| dholbach | ogra is the king of trolls | 18:01 |
| ogra_ | or was it forkdongled | 18:01 |
| * dholbach hugs ogra | 18:01 | |
| sergiusens | yeah, feels like a friday :-) | 18:01 |
| dholbach | let | 18:01 |
| dholbach | let's move on to other things :) | 18:01 |
| ogra_ | must be | 18:01 |
| Anidel | indeed...and it's time to go. Thanks for you help before guys. Ttyl. | 18:02 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, sergiusens so first just add the code ... i'l make sure once we're on cdimage we'll have the "additional builds" run in a separate time window | 18:02 |
| rsalveti | yup | 18:02 |
| * rsalveti creating a blueprint for it | 18:02 | |
| ogra_ | nah | 18:02 |
| ogra_ | dont add extra paperwork | 18:02 |
| ogra_ | we have enough | 18:03 |
| gigglefight | it may have been asked many times before... ubuntu touch and touchscreen notebook device install instruction. please kindly direct me thanks. | 18:03 |
| sergiusens | gigglefight: it's in the /topic ;) | 18:03 |
| ogra_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install ... | 18:03 |
| gigglefight | :) thanks kindly. got it! :) | 18:04 |
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| dholbach | rsalveti, who's going to do the team report next week? | 18:06 |
| dholbach | rsalveti, once you send it I'll make sure to publish it on the ubuntudev accounts | 18:06 |
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| doubletwist | Anyone working on getting touch working on a trasformer prime [tf201]? | 18:09 |
| ogra_ | check the device list on the wiki | 18:09 |
| doubletwist | it's not on the list | 18:10 |
| ogra_ | (see topic) | 18:10 |
| doubletwist | Thought there might be pointer to someone/somewhere else it might be getting worked on | 18:10 |
| ogra_ | well, you could look at the xda forums ... if there isnt anyone either, then i guess nobody works on it | 18:10 |
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| gigglefight | i love the look of ubuntu touch on adb device would there be a way to have that on a touchscreen device that is non-adb? and where would i find its how to? | 18:12 |
| rsalveti | dholbach: ogra_: sergiusens: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-sponsoring-community-touch-builds | 18:13 |
| rsalveti | dholbach: not sure, will send an email asking for volunteers | 18:13 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: hint hint | 18:13 |
| rsalveti | :P | 18:13 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: team report? | 18:14 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, bah | 18:14 |
| sergiusens | dholbach: when is it due? | 18:14 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: so now you can track the WI :P | 18:14 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: I'm doing for this week, need a volunteer for next one | 18:14 |
| dholbach | sergiusens, the idea was to get it out every end of the week | 18:14 |
| dholbach | we can probably use the same format and use rsalveti's tool | 18:16 |
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| sergiusens | dholbach: ack, is tomorrow ok? | 18:19 |
| dholbach | sergiusens, it looks like rsalveti is covering this week already | 18:20 |
| surgemcgee | Whats the best way to debug a "Program finished unexpectantly" error? This error appears when I switch between a three tab layout. There isn't any freaky code anywhere. Is there a method in QtCreator? | 18:20 |
| dholbach | sergiusens, next week would be yours then :) | 18:20 |
| allancd | hi there, i'm looking for some help installing ubuntu touch onto my nexus 10 | 18:20 |
| dholbach | allancd, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 18:20 |
| sergiusens | dholbach: ack... but next week is very short ;-) | 18:21 |
| dholbach | oh yeah? | 18:21 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: you can do at the other monday then | 18:21 |
| allancd | yeah i followed that but after doing the steps it got into a continual loop whereby it would show the google text image and then just go black | 18:21 |
| allancd | i've tried wiping data and cache to no avail | 18:21 |
| dholbach | ^ did anyone have the same problem as allancd - allancd: that was with today's image? | 18:22 |
| allancd | yeah i "phablet-flash"-ed it about 10 mins ago | 18:22 |
| pmcgowan | the morning image is broken | 18:23 |
| pmcgowan | there is one building now | 18:23 |
| pmcgowan | allancd: you can fix it by making a directory at .ubuntu-session/logs or wait for the update | 18:23 |
| dholbach | thanks pmcgowan, allancd: ^ | 18:23 |
| allancd | how would i go about doing the former | 18:24 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: other Monday and Tuesday I am out | 18:25 |
| allancd | or should I just reinstall android and then wait for the update | 18:25 |
| thisguy_ | can anybody help me out. I don't see local manifest file. I'm done repo syncing but all i see is manifext.xml not a local manifest file. Unless they are the same thing | 18:26 |
| ogra_ | they are | 18:26 |
| surgemcgee | Is it copyrighted? | 18:28 |
| pmcgowan | allancd: get an adb shell, ubuntu_chroot shell then mkdir | 18:30 |
| thisguy_ | oh okay somebody told me they was different. Thanks and when it says update your local manifest are they saying open manifest.xml and then add in your lines in? I ask all this because I'm trying to port it to the evo v/3d cdma but i think i did it all wrong because it wouldn't make a image | 18:32 |
| ogra_ | yes, you edit manifest.xml and then call repo sync | 18:32 |
| ogra_ | after you added the right lines for your device | 18:33 |
| thisguy_ | alright I shall go do that now. hopefully no more mess ups | 18:34 |
| allancd | i'm a bit stuck - i've booted into recovery, opened up a terminal and typed adb shell which has worked | 18:38 |
| allancd | but i dont know how to ubuntu_chroot shell | 18:38 |
| pmcgowan | allancd: sorry you can let it boot normally, while the UI did not display the system does boot | 18:41 |
| ogra_ | allancd, well, in the shel you type exactly that | 18:41 |
| ogra_ | *shell | 18:41 |
| allancd | yeah it just says ubuntu_chroot not found | 18:41 |
| ogra_ | oh, but right, what pmcgowan said, you need to be in the normal system | 18:41 |
| ogra_ | with the black screen | 18:41 |
| allancd | ah right, it doesnt let me get that far - i'm gonna reinstall android, reinstall ubuntu and then try this | 18:42 |
| allancd | cheers | 18:42 |
| doubletwist | hahaha | 18:45 |
| allancd | ok so now when i try to flash-all.sh it just hangs on waiting on device | 18:49 |
| allancd | any advice | 18:49 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: keeping parallel builds for the indicators stuff isn't going to be easy | 18:51 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: should we deal with them separately then? | 18:52 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: yeah, I'm also delegating code fixes to renato_ ;-) | 18:53 |
| allancd | managed to get it to flash android - seemed to not register on my pc being in fastboot mode on occasion | 18:54 |
| ogra_ | allancd, try re-pluggin the cable | 18:55 |
| allancd | yeah i got it now thanks | 18:55 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: :-) | 18:55 |
| allancd | i'll try touch again and let you know how it goes applying the fix | 18:55 |
| ogra_ | allancd, well, the image build should be ready soon | 18:56 |
| ogra_ | so i would just wait | 18:56 |
| allancd | ok cool will just hold off then | 18:58 |
| allancd | cheers for the help anyway | 19:01 |
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| onamae | I'm booting into a black screen, so how do I wipe the /data partition on my galaxy nexus (maguro)? | 19:10 |
| ogra_ | onamae, with todays image ? | 19:10 |
| onamae | yes | 19:10 |
| ogra_ | there is a bug ... | 19:10 |
| pmcgowan | we really need a way to mark the image status or take them down | 19:10 |
| ogra_ | create /home/phablet/.ubuntu-session/logs/ and it will magically start working | 19:10 |
| onamae | I'll try that | 19:11 |
| ogra_ | the code crating that dir is broken, rebuild is in progress | 19:11 |
| ogra_ | *creating | 19:11 |
| ogra_ | pmcgowan, once it is on cdimage only images that passed the autotest will be published as /current | 19:12 |
| ogra_ | its all worked out in WIs already ... just missing implementation (but all due this month) | 19:12 |
| pmcgowan | ack | 19:15 |
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| onamae | after creating /home/phablet/.ubuntu-session/logs/ it still didn't work, so I ran qml-phone-shell and it looks like it is using the tablet shell | 19:27 |
| onamae | I also tried rebooting and it still was a black screen | 19:27 |
| onamae | maybe I should just wait | 19:28 |
| rsalveti | cyphermox: your last email reply was for me-only, not sure if you also wanted to reply to the ml | 19:32 |
| rsalveti | I'm not sure if the default reply option is to reply to the ml | 19:33 |
| cyphermox | Oops. | 19:37 |
| cyphermox | Yeah, it was meant for the mailing list. I'll resend | 19:37 |
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| rsalveti | onamae: new build some come in minutes | 19:44 |
| awe | onamae, the easiest way to fix the problem is to just edit the ubuntu-session script directly to create the dir | 19:44 |
| thisguy | when adding lines into manifest.xml do you go all the way to bottom and add your line in last for instance my line is...... <project path="device/htc/msm8660-common" name="CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_msm8660-common" /> | 19:44 |
| awe | it's in /usr/bin | 19:44 |
| awe | jus change [ ! -d $logdir ] to [ -d $logdir ] | 19:45 |
| winb | when connecting my nexus 4, my ubuntu doesnt seem to recognize/mount my device. I am in debug mode | 19:45 |
| winb | I have followed the guid on the touch-wiki and the device is unlocked | 19:47 |
| cyphermox | winb you mean in android? On quantal some people have trouble with mtp | 19:48 |
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| winb | cyphermox: ye quantal | 19:52 |
| cyphermox | It could be a gvfs issue. You tablet is configured for MTP already, and it's not seen or is it erroring when you try to mount or copy files? | 19:54 |
| davmor2 | hey guys todays image seems to of left me at a black screen on the n7 is there anything that can be done other than wait for a new image? | 20:01 |
| pmcgowan | davmor2: sorry about that | 20:01 |
| pmcgowan | the easiest way to fix the problem is to just edit the ubuntu-session script directly to create the dir | 20:02 |
| ogra_ | davmor2, my fault :( | 20:02 |
| pmcgowan | change [ ! -d $logdir ] to [ -d $logdir ] | 20:02 |
| ogra_ | remove the ! | 20:02 |
| gary_poster | hi. I have an N10 that someone else flashed for me a day or two ago. I need to try another daily (I can't type the wifi password in with no keyboard) but when I attach the tablet to my computer while the tablet is in the bootloader, adb devices doesn't find the device. any idea on what to do? | 20:03 |
| pmcgowan | gary_poster: not sure why its not detecting it, I have seen folks switch usb ports to make it work | 20:04 |
| onamae | I can't seem to save ubuntu-session with nano, pressing enter seems to be ignored on the save screen. is there another way I can edit that file | 20:04 |
| pmcgowan | but you should be able to type in a wiwi password with the osk no? | 20:04 |
| gary_poster | ack pmcgowan will try | 20:04 |
| awe | onamae, vi | 20:04 |
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| davmor2 | pmcgowan, ogra_: I'm sorry I get I need to remove the ! but from where exactly please | 20:05 |
| ogra_ | line 8 iirc | 20:06 |
| thisguy | what do these lines means? fatal: Couldn't find remote ref refs/heads/cm-10.1 error: Cannot fetch CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_msm8660-common. i got that after adding my lines into manifest.xml then doing repo sync | 20:06 |
| pmcgowan | davmor2: you can alos just make the folder | 20:06 |
| ogra_ | [ ! -d $logdir ] || mkdir -p $logdir | 20:06 |
| awe | pmcgowan, that was tried by onamae and it failed. It's much easier to just modify the script cause then you don't have to worry about perms | 20:09 |
| awe | and it's a 1-char change | 20:09 |
| pmcgowan | awe: thats what I did earlier today | 20:09 |
| pmcgowan | just made the folder | 20:09 |
| gary_poster | pmcgowan, no luck, running the gamut of the available ports and fiddling. I'll try another computer next... | 20:09 |
| * ogra_ is syncing the new image over to cdimage now | 20:09 | |
| pmcgowan | gary_poster: you said its already got ubuntu touch on it? | 20:10 |
| gary_poster | pmcgowan, yes | 20:10 |
| pmcgowan | gary_poster: do you have the latest adb tools? | 20:10 |
| gary_poster | pmcgowan, I'm on quantal, and I installed the phablet ppa and did the update install dance per the installation instructions | 20:11 |
| gary_poster | pmcgowan, within the last half hour | 20:11 |
| pmcgowan | gary_poster: ok sounds right | 20:11 |
| pmcgowan | maybe restart the adb server | 20:11 |
| pmcgowan | try an adb kill-server; adb start-server | 20:12 |
| pmcgowan | thats another case Id seen | 20:12 |
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| gary_poster | k trying | 20:12 |
| pmcgowan | then plug it in again | 20:13 |
| gary_poster | pmcgowan, kill-server, [unplug], start-server, [plug]: no luck :-/ | 20:14 |
| pmcgowan | hmm | 20:14 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: this one *should* be good :-) | 20:14 |
| rsalveti | we got some other changes, but hopefully it'll not break the image | 20:14 |
| gary_poster | seeing if I can get the steam-powered laptop to work | 20:14 |
| ogra_ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ | 20:15 |
| ogra_ | new image is up | 20:15 |
| pmcgowan | rsalveti: gary_poster has a deal where adb devices is not seeing his nexus 10 when its in the bootloader | 20:15 |
| pmcgowan | or is that normal? | 20:15 |
| onamae | editing the file didn't work for me, I even tried removing /home/phablet/.ubuntu-session in case my original creation of that folder was causing problems | 20:15 |
| pmcgowan | gary_poster: can you see it when you let it boot into ubuntu? | 20:16 |
| onamae | if I run ubuntu-session all I see is "Redirecting output to local session logs" and it just exits | 20:16 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: ta | 20:16 |
| ogra_ | thanks for your patience all ... and sorry for the breakage | 20:16 |
| onamae | I'll try flashing the new image | 20:17 |
| thisguy | how do i fix this fatal: Couldn't find remote ref refs/heads/cm-10.1 (im porting it to the evo 3d | 20:17 |
| rsalveti | pmcgowan: adb cannot talk with the bootloader | 20:17 |
| rsalveti | he needs to use fastboot for that | 20:17 |
| pmcgowan | yeah took me a minute | 20:17 |
| pmcgowan | gary_poster: ^^ | 20:17 |
| * sergiusens mentions that it seems that the build is complete and in sync in cdimage, anyone care to try? | 20:19 | |
| gary_poster | rsalveti, pmcgowan, oh! sorry, misread for the case of already installed. Will try. pmcgowan, yes, can see it then, but I guess that's not a surprise now. Will retry from bootloader... | 20:19 |
| pmcgowan | vg | 20:19 |
| rsalveti | sergiusens: downloading | 20:20 |
| davmor2 | sergiusens: installing now | 20:22 |
| gary_poster | pmcgowan, sudo fastboot devices shows the device. adb devices still does not see when I am in bootloader (and phablet-flash does not work). Am I supposed to run phablet-flash while machine is running ubuntu? | 20:24 |
| pmcgowan | gary_poster: yes | 20:24 |
| gary_poster | ah! got it. trying thanks | 20:24 |
| sergiusens | rsalveti: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/nux/glib/+merge/155054 | 20:26 |
| gary_poster | yay, it is doing things | 20:26 |
| * ogra_ wonders if anyone noticed that he added the legal notice to the cdimage page | 20:26 | |
| ogra_ | now you have to actually scroll to see the images :P | 20:26 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: I wonder if people read at all ;-) Myself included :-P | 20:27 |
| ogra_ | haha, yeah, i just read it for the first time either :) | 20:27 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, i guess for the xoom we need to add an additional license URL then | 20:28 |
| ogra_ | since currently we only point to nexus | 20:28 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: there a legal notice | 20:30 |
| davmor2 | s/there/there's | 20:30 |
| ogra_ | :) | 20:30 |
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| davmor2 | ogra_ , pmcgowan: Yay! I got a Home screen and everything WooHoo! | 20:38 |
| ogra_ | great | 20:39 |
| ogra_ | ! | 20:39 |
| pmcgowan | hah good | 20:39 |
| gary_poster | pmcgowan, I'm also all straightened out and on the network. thanks! | 20:39 |
| * davmor2 easily pleased | 20:39 | |
| pmcgowan | good stuff | 20:39 |
| davmor2 | night all have a great weekend and thanks for the fix | 20:39 |
| ogra_ | thanks for the test | 20:39 |
| sergiusens | of bfiller https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/nux/glib/+merge/155054 | 20:40 |
| ogra_ | are you secretly sneaking nux and compiz into the phone ? | 20:40 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: it's already there... for a very small specific thing | 20:41 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: notify-osd | 20:41 |
| ogra_ | ah | 20:42 |
| ogra_ | wow | 20:42 |
| ogra_ | i didnt know that was woven into nux | 20:42 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: need it for raring until the thing transitions | 20:42 |
| ogra_ | yep | 20:42 |
| thisguy | for some reason i cannot do this code to extract the data from my phone cd device/htc/shooter. when i do adb devices it shows my phone put when i put that code in it says no such file or directory | 20:43 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: yeah, it's the way things are until they stop being so ;-) | 20:47 |
| ogra_ | haha | 20:47 |
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| sergiusens | boiko: can you check once CI is done? https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/indicator-messages/g_type_init-guards/+merge/155064 ... hope it doesn't break quantal | 20:49 |
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| davmor2 | ogra_ I can use o's to login in again now woohoo. | 20:54 |
| ogra_ | :D | 20:55 |
| boiko | sergiusens: I would really prefer if renato_ or maybe lars could take it a look (they know GLib way better than I do) | 20:55 |
| boiko | sergiusens: but in any case, the changes make sense | 20:58 |
| sergiusens | boiko: :-) | 21:02 |
| boiko | sergiusens: about the telepathy-logger-qt, yes, it is going to be a problem, as that newer version is a qt4 package and the one we use is qt5 | 21:03 |
| boiko | sergiusens: oh, wait, no, because the binary packages are named telepathy-logger-qt5 | 21:03 |
| boiko | sergiusens: so it is fine for now, but later it would be nice to have the same source package building both the qt4 and qt5 binary packages | 21:04 |
| sergiusens | boiko: good, if it's not going to be a problem, I'll leave it as an S task | 21:05 |
| boiko | sergiusens: yep | 21:06 |
| boiko | sergiusens: I'll approve your MR, the version of GLib in quantal already warns that g_type_init is obsolete | 21:07 |
| boiko | sergiusens: they can blame me after if it breaks ;) | 21:08 |
| popey | I flashed my Nexus 7 and it's got a black screen ☹ | 21:12 |
| popey | I did add some packages to test qt 5.0.1 to it earlier but it all broke so I re-flashed it, and now it's just permanently black screen - light on | 21:12 |
| ogra_ | popey, when | 21:12 |
| popey | so it has image 40 on it | 21:13 |
| ogra_ | the image that cdimage spit our 1h ago should be fine again | 21:13 |
| ogra_ | yeah, 40 was crack ... you can hack the fix in though | 21:13 |
| ogra_ | if you dont want to reflash | 21:13 |
| popey | meh, 41 is downloading now | 21:13 |
| ogra_ | edit ubuntu-session ... its a 1 char fix | 21:13 |
| * ogra_ messed it up | 21:13 | |
| popey | 13% [====> ] 70,564,432 7.43MB/s eta 92s | 21:14 |
| popey | wheeeeee | 21:14 |
| popey | I'll just flash it ☺ | 21:14 |
| ogra_ | envy .... | 21:14 |
| ogra_ | you brits and your fiber | 21:14 |
| popey | heh | 21:15 |
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| popey | \o/ fixed | 21:31 |
| ogra_ | :) | 21:33 |
| ogra_ | was only one exclamation mark to much in the image | 21:33 |
| sergiusens | boiko: does it? I could of just removed it :-P | 21:35 |
| sergiusens | ogra_: entropy of new image was low ;-) | 21:36 |
| ogra_ | :) | 21:36 |
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| popey | hmm, in the latest image otto's contact details overlap "People recently in touch" on the home screen | 21:40 |
| ogra_ | popey, what device ? | 21:41 |
| popey | N7 | 21:41 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 21:41 |
| sergiusens | popey: screenshot? | 21:45 |
| popey | kk | 21:45 |
| sergiusens | popey: if not, I think from what greyback told me once, it's a nasty Qt bug | 21:45 |
| popey | sergiusens: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-03-22-214652.png | 21:48 |
| sergiusens | popey: not exactly the thing I used to see... is it 100% reproduceable? (respawn shell?) | 21:50 |
| popey | bah, reboot and it goes away | 21:51 |
| ogra_ | i was thinking some issue with GRID_UNIT_PX ... but that wouldnt only affect the people stuff | 21:52 |
| * popey shakes a fist at the gods of qml | 21:52 | |
| ogra_ | heh | 21:52 |
| sergiusens | popey: then it's probably the same thing.... making the lens bounce on the edges also fixed it at times for me | 21:52 |
| P3T3 | AC100 new release with working WiFi: https://phablet-paz00.googlecode.com/files/cm-10.1-20130319-UNOFFICIAL-ac100.zip | 21:58 |
| winb | man its a pain in the ass to install ubuntu on nexus 4 when on 12.10 because of mtp problems | 22:04 |
| winb | phablet-flash is not happy with the workaround on mounting my nexus 4 | 22:06 |
| winb | Any ideas? | 22:10 |
| ogra_ | winb, there is some gvfs mtp process that you can kill to quieten it | 22:17 |
| rickspencer3 | hey rsalveti should I go ahead and install the daily now? | 22:34 |
| rickspencer3 | too lat4e | 22:36 |
| * rickspencer3 updates | 22:36 | |
| sergiusens | rickspencer3: it's good on manta | 22:44 |
| phretor | has anyone tried UT on Galaxy S3? | 22:44 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks sergiusens | 22:45 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm updating my nexus 7 | 22:45 |
| popey | build 41 is fine rickspencer3 | 22:45 |
| ogra_ | phretor, see the devices page on the wiki ( /topic) | 22:55 |
| phretor | ogra_: officially, I know S3 is unsupported | 22:56 |
| ogra_ | phretor, there is a port afaik ... see the device page | 22:57 |
| phretor | ogra_: it's marked as WIP | 22:57 |
| phretor | I'm talking about i9300 | 22:58 |
| onamae | ogra_: just wanted to say the new image works, thanks for the help ogra_ and awe | 22:58 |
| awe | great! | 22:59 |
| ogra_ | onamae, awesome | 23:05 |
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