[00:07] zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz -_- [07:18] Morn-some. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [08:30] Am I allowed to use 'Ubuntu Orange' on my website? I'm not replicating the Ubuntu brand. I just like orange :P [08:33] yes [08:34] of course [08:34] morning [08:35] morning all. [08:35] Happy Friday [08:46] OT: System 76 guy was on LAShow last week : http://youtu.be/EfYGjcNmeDY?t=24m56s [08:59] morning all [08:59] yo AlanBell [09:00] * TheOpenSourcerer is waiting for his old Volvo to be towed away and destroyed (slowly probably) [09:00] awwww [09:00] * popey removes his hat [09:01] lol [09:01] Mrs TheOpenSourcerer is rather sad. We bought that car 10 years ago this month. [09:01] Has been to a lot of interesting places. [09:01] Heh, I'll be sad when my volvo dies [09:02] bits are falling off my merc [09:02] But the slightly newer one is much nicer ;-) [09:02] * AlanBell had a short ride in the new volvo, it is rather nice [09:02] It has a "Parrot" and my S3 pairs within fine so I have in-car phone connectivity too [09:03] s\within\with it [09:03] oh nice [09:04] so you can make/receive calls using in car audio stuff? [09:04] I have never had a car that had that [09:04] yeah - it kills the radio and everything! [09:04] speaking of bluetooth, i bought an OBD-II thing which is attached to my car now [09:04] Syncs contacts and call logs etc. [09:04] TheOpenSourcerer, It's not a 900 is it ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_S90#Volvo_960.2FS90.2FV90 [09:05] V70 [09:05] http://www.amazon.com/Excelvan-Bluetooth-Interface-Scanner-Adapter/dp/B007P14NPU/ref=cm_rdp_product [09:05] one of them [09:05] ooh nice .. that's an accountaning technicians car :D [09:05] One of these: http://www.parrot.com/uk/support/parrotck3100ck3300ck3500 [09:05] opening.. [09:05] never seen those [09:05] aftermarket thing the previous owner added? [09:06] yeah [09:06] But fairly unobtrusive [09:06] TheOpenSourcerer, I was talking about yar Volvo .. ?? [09:06] redtape|coffee: so was TheOpenSourcerer [09:06] redtape|coffee: I wasn't ;-) [09:06] then we moved on ☺ [09:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_V70 [09:07] I didn't [09:07] keep up at the back [09:07] * redtape|coffee plays with the wikipedia sideshow... [09:08] man, I need to log-out .. XChat is slow to say the least today. [09:09] Talk on that wiki page says some-it 'bot ::: || faulty Electronic Throttle Modules (ETMs) [09:09] **about.. === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [09:10] Oh, and OT | but TheOpenSourcerer you have a belgian car :) [09:11] " b) assembled in Ghent, Belgium " [09:13] TheOpenSourcerer, Have you ever seen these used by the force/emeg. services ? [09:13] **emergeency services ... ?? [09:13] huh? The Police use(d) the T5 for years [09:14] What 'bout the V70 ? [09:14] The T5 is a V70! [09:15] It's the FAST one! [09:15] https://www.google.com/search?q=police+volvo+T5 [09:15] oh ... I'll updatev the wiki :) [09:17] redtape|coffee: http://not2grand.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/volvo-v70-23-t5.html [09:17] * redtape|coffee goes to get 20p newspaper for weather news . [09:21] #ppuk [09:35] Happy Friday, and happy World Day for Water, everyone! :-D [09:36] I'd like to propose that today also be declared "Snow??? WTF???" Day. [09:37] no snow here [09:39] sleet here .. but no papaers in the shop (today).. [09:40] I actually bought Ian Hislop's newspaper/public. [09:42] OT | When was the last time you saw a copy of the Private Eye ? www.private-eye.co.uk ? [09:42] TheOpenSourcerer, you're down south, IIRC? [09:43] JamesTait, He is. [09:44] Morning peeps [09:45] redtape|coffee: I used to subscribe [09:48] JamesTait: Yep - Farnham, Surrey to be precise(ish) [09:49] TheOpenSourcerer, oh, I didn't realise you were also in Farnham. :) [09:49] "also"? [09:51] TheOpenSourcerer, I thought popey was based there too? [09:51] He's not far away but not Farnham. [09:52] we are close enough to meet up for a long lunch [09:52] :-D [09:52] the last long lunch ended gone midnight [09:52] https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=farnborough+to+farnham [09:52] not far [09:53] Oh, of course! How could I forget the air show? [09:54] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21830739 that is a news article about a made up word as far as I can tell [09:57] Mmm, bacn. [09:58] I only like the adverts .. popey http://paste.ubuntu.com/5636485/ There you go I've saved you all £1.50 , today !! [10:01] I wish the Google Talk Plugin changelog entries in the deb package were more useful than just "Maintenance release". [10:09] popey .. did you get my ^ pastebin ^ ? [10:14] redtape|coffee: I just saved 93p by not buying it, though ;) === anothernick is now known as yetanothernick [10:20] dwatkins, Right, because gave you all the info-(adverts) for free :D [10:20] * redtape|coffee celebrates the power of sharing \o/ [10:23] redtape|coffee: i saw it, then closed it [10:24] * redtape|coffee shrugs. === yetanothernick is now known as anothernick [10:26] http://www.arewefastyet.com/ [10:28] The Safari browser is quickest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_%28browser%29 :( but it uses webkit :| [10:29] chrome is quickest on most tests [10:30] and this isn't a test of webkit [10:30] or geko [10:30] popey: Following on from your culinary success last week.. I've got my Mum & Dad coming for lunch tomorrow. Thinking Boeuf Bourguignon, New Potatoes, and perhaps some green beans? Sound OK? [10:30] good morning everyone. [10:31] Idea for a new culinary website... "Askpopey.com" [10:31] chilli a'la popey [10:35] TheOpenSourcerer: I'd be inclined to do roast potatoes to have some crunch, but yeah, sounds nom [10:35] That's .. more like www.o5.com [10:37] Nice metric's though | http://pmetrics.performancing.com/stats/?site_id=12734 [10:38] * redtape|coffee thinks 'p-metics' to get popeys webcam views would be a good idea. [10:44] Roasties... Hmm, maybe. But think I will go for steamed new anyway (nicer smothered in butter & parsley). [10:45] nom [10:52] * TheOpenSourcerer needs to go to the office and get all "strategic"... [10:55] * AlanBell nods [10:55] TheOpenSourcerer: http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/7535/hasselback-potatoes.aspx [10:56] ooh, i made those a while back, they're lovely [10:56] Kewl - they look nice Myrtti [10:56] * DJones debates, clear snow of the path or bake bread [10:57] in fact I shall make them this weekend I think, thanks Myrtti [10:57] * TheOpenSourcerer looks at his back garden bathed in Spring sunshine. [10:58] we were taught the recipe at home economics in school ^___^ [10:58] now I want garlic or blue cheese creamed potatoes tho [10:58] TheOpenSourcerer: We've got a decent covering of snow, averages about 2" deep [11:03] Morning all [11:04] OT | Anbody wanna go 1llegal ? http://illegaleshow.nl/finally-a-it-looks-like-a-plan-plan/?owa_medium=feed&owa_sid= [11:07] seriously. _what_? [11:08] That has to be a dodgy url, just look at it [11:12] So which prats ordered the UK wide Waterslide for the West and the UK snow for the east for their kids birthdays :) [11:13] okay, I thought I was going crazy, I'm not. that .nl has randomly appearing/disappearing my little pony / rainbows / hello kitty. wow. [11:16] davmor2: Snow here [11:17] bigcalm: you don't have kids unless you ordered it for yourself [11:17] davmor2: I ordered it for Hayley, but she still managed to get into work [11:18] bigcalm: hahaha [11:20] Police have just closed a major bridge here due to falling snow & ice [11:22] That happens to the M4 Wales bridge quite offten [11:22] often [11:31] Just seeing peoples comments, falling ice has been smashing car windscreens [11:38] Heavy water [11:44] happy birthday andylockran [12:43] bigcalm: don't joke like that it's bad enough that their window is smashed without being radioactive too :) [12:58] Man Love film really don't want you to cancel your account [13:00] and netflix really, really want you to come back [13:04] i just finished my first month of free netflix [13:05] if they offered it again I might actually try it. but when I tried last year, the offer here was almost entirely bollywood [13:18] OT | Sellafield Power Staion has shut down due to the bad weather and high winds. [13:36] I doubt I'd consider netflix or similar until we had a 'net connected TV. I think we get enough of what we don't use via cable as it is :) [13:37] I think mine'll play if I let it update. but I really don't want the faff of having to shove my tv through a vpn just to get any content [13:39] got the paypal notification for first months payment and thought "yeah, I'll probably use that more" [13:39] and will now go and buy a smart telly ☺ [13:40] popey: get a 3d one while you're at it [13:42] nope [13:42] 3d is overrated [13:42] and will be gone soon [13:43] ;) [13:43] It's lasted longer than I had expected it to [13:44] ditto [13:44] 3d is for kids in cinema, not htpc's. [13:54] popey: Make sure the telly supports DNLA so when your "smart" TV is not longer smart you can still stream stuff to it :) [13:56] or just grab an appletv and save yourself a couple of quid *ducks* [14:02] shauno: He has a raspberry pi :) [14:03] The solution is never to buy an Apple product [14:04] hm, I didn't try netflix on my pi [14:04] shauno: ah, in which case you want one of those android mini-pcs [14:05] Or just a fanless pc :) [14:22] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21896442 [14:22] http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iv-drip/poll-pycon-playhaven-anonymous-adria-richards-and-online-sexism-where-did-it-all-go-wrong-8545741.html [14:23] Oh dear, a poll! [14:25] wat [14:25] poll needs "all of the above" option [14:27] surely that's the first one, then? [14:27] no [14:27] it's asking for the point at which it got out of hand [14:27] literally everyone is in the wrong [14:27] no, I would go for "all of the above" too [14:27] yeah, that's not the question, though [14:28] the question is dumb [14:28] oh I see what you mean [14:28] if only 3, 4 and 5 were overreactions then '3' is the point at which it got out of hand [14:28] it kept on getting more and more out of hand at every step [14:28] it got out of hand a long time ago [14:29] Mountain out of a molehill [14:30] Granted the guys probably shouldn't have made the jokes in question, but I've heard worse in the kitchen at work here. [14:30] She's clearly acting as the complete antithesis of a developer relations person. [14:30] https://amandablumwords.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/3/ [14:31] well there's nothing unusual about that [14:32] the issue got out of hand at the point where anyone who refused to pick a side was shunned by both sides [14:32] this happened several years ago [15:29] My ubuntu desktop 12.10 only seems to have traceroute6 installed... which package do I Get traceroute for ipv4 from? [15:30] tracepath [15:30] apt-cache search traceroute [15:31] popey: thanks for that - it says tracepath is already installed... shoudl I remove and reinstall? [15:31] popey: the package was iputils-tracepath [15:31] the package is traceroute here [15:31] but I wouldn't use traceroute, use mtr :D [15:32] cool - thanks you :) [15:40] Oh bottoms [15:40] The snow is sticking to my car now [15:54] bigcalm, Libre Snow Balls ? [16:00] bigcalm: Its been sticking to my car since before I woke up, had about 1hr when it stopped snowing [16:43] http://www.harlemify.com/?url=www.ubuntu.com muhahahaha the fun you can have :) [17:10] Any (card) gamers out there? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cantripgames/story-war-the-storytelling-party-game [17:17] already backing it :0 [17:18] popey: I know, but not everyone might have seen it :) [17:19] of course ☺ [17:19] looking forward to that [17:19] also, CaH expansion 3 now in stock [17:19] CoH you mean? :) [17:19] oh wait [17:19] Against is with an "a" [17:19] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B3YT030/ [17:20] * MartijnVdS fails English forever [17:20] yeah.. no ship to Netherlands :( [17:21] yeah, got one of my co-workers to order for me [17:27] * MartijnVdS orders a low-end "NUC" === alan_g is now known as alan_g|eow [18:44] popey: did you see this one as well? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/421164014/openshot-video-editor-for-windows-mac-and-linux/posts/434357?ref=activity [19:30] hello [19:30] i'm trying to make TF2 work in my old laptop following this workaround: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/846938351012409765/ [19:30] but I don't know where to find my bashrc (or .zshrc, or .profile) [19:31] where's that file? [19:34] in your home directory [19:34] found it [19:34] is there such a thing as a high rated usb cable? [19:35] or will the cable for my phone charger also work in my 2A usb charger too [19:35] you don't need that first line on ubuntu as $HOME/bin is already on the path [19:35] after you create it and restart computer anyway [19:36] mungbean: there is no such thing as high rated USB cable [19:36] didnt think so..wanted to check for sanity [19:36] 2A * 5v = 10W [19:36] still trying to revive the tablet [19:36] got to wait a week for a new charger to arrive [19:38] after i install android sdk, where do i find "ant"? [19:45] ali1234: tools [19:45] nope [19:46] that's a directory [19:46] alan@deep-thought:~/android-sdk-linux$ find . -name ant [19:46] ./tools/ant [19:46] ./tools/proguard/ant [19:46] ./tools/proguard/examples/ant [19:46] those are all directories [19:46] so they are [19:47] i'm reading the instructions how to build SDL for android and it says "now run ant debug to build it" [19:52] so the answer is the android sdk doesn't include ant [19:52] so i'm supposed to install it myself from distro [20:02] cool, got apk === JethroTroll is now known as RaycisCharles === RaycisCharles is now known as GentileBen