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xubuntu006\o/02:15
xubuntu006im alive !!!02:19
buttsnifferis there a way to lock programs to a certain workspace? I've tried the 'stick' button and set the option to 'Only on this workspace' but windows keep jumping around02:35
buttsnifferfor example I have Firefox on one workspace, chat client on another, when I click a link in my chat client, I would like Firefox to stay on it's workspace when it loads the page02:36
IdleOnebuttsniffer: the ubuntu channels try and keep a family friendly atmosphere. It would be great if you could change your nick to something less potentially/possibly offensive. Thank you.03:09
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alnwrksorry03:14
alnwrk:D03:14
alnwrkdogs nickname03:15
IdleOneDidn't personally bother me but someone did say something in private. So i asked nice and you were nice about it. :)03:21
alnwrkno worries03:21
IdleOneanyway, don't know how to help with your question :/03:21
SonikkuAmericaI don't think I was in here when you asked it...03:22
alnwrkis there a way to lock programs to a certain workspace? I've tried the 'stick' button and set the option to 'Only on this workspace' but windows keep jumping around03:22
Unit193I've noticed that behavior, but as I don't use desktops as much, and can send it back pretty easily...03:22
alnwrkit's just annoying to keep sending firefox back to it's workspace when I click links in my chat client03:23
alnwrkwhich is actually irssi, inside tmux, maximized03:23
SonikkuAmericaalnwrk: Is it because you're calling it from another workspace?03:24
alnwrkSonikkuAmerica: I've never had that issue before, but I cant remember if I was running XFCE or i303:24
SonikkuAmericaWhat's i3?03:25
alnwrki3 is awesome that's what it is! http://i3wm.org/03:26
Unit193Xombrero doesn't move to the second workspace.03:26
SonikkuAmericaalnwrk: Oh wow... shiny object...03:30
SonikkuAmericaXfce 4.10 has no problem with workspace jumping...03:31
alnwrkyeah I'm not sure what the deal is03:32
SonikkuAmericaWell, I can't really get to the bottom of this until I know which DE you were using. And I have to go.03:33
alnwrk"This is xfwm4 version 4.10.0 (revision cc70567) for Xfce 4.10"03:35
Dr^FetsI have the same issue03:52
Dr^Fetsxfce 4.803:52
Dr^FetsI can't stick a frame to a workspace03:52
arcadiahello?06:14
baizonhi06:14
arcadiai want to know if i can save my panels? backup a config file or what not, then load it for another machine?06:16
arcadiaim new to xfce and the main reason for switching is the customization, so i if ever i made a customization that i liked, can i save it and load again whenever i need to? (e.g. refornat my machine)06:18
baizonarcadia: you can06:19
arcadiaokay thanks06:19
arcadiaill just do my research, just wanted to clarify, just to save time06:19
baizonarcadia: a hint... http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=743206:20
arcadiathank you so much.06:28
arcadiaand one more thing, i wanted to explore more on tiling windows, can i do that using xfwm?06:29
arcadialike splitting my workspace in 4 windows06:30
arcadiai did the window manager>advacned>uncheck wrap workspaces06:31
baizonarcadia: you mean this? http://www.iloveubuntu.net/sites/default/files/field/image/workspace%20switcher%20ubuntu%2011.10%20redesigned.png06:32
arcadiabaizon: more of like this06:37
arcadiahttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LGcjSAPwUQA/Tq5nKFGeN-I/AAAAAAAAAbU/nXGIwKJPWBg/s1600/mydesktop.png06:37
arcadiai believe this is another WM, but i was wondering if xfwm can do that?06:37
Unit193That looks more like awesomewm.06:39
baizonindeed, never seen such tiling06:40
arcadiaor xmonad? i tried searching and i got overwhelmed by information. I just new to linux06:41
arcadiai tried i3 before using xfce06:42
arcadiathe closest thing that i did was 'aero snap' here in xfwm06:43
laitearcadia: xfwm can't do real tiling of windows06:43
laiteIf you're interested, there's quite a comprehensive table of tiling wms in archwiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Comparison_of_Tiling_Window_Managers06:43
laitemost populars (I think) are indeed i3, awesome, xmonad, perhaps dwm06:44
baizonarcadia: this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF76DELEpjM06:45
arcadialaite: last time i tried i3, it gave me a plain desktop. haha06:46
laiteyeah, for some reason tiling window managers are not especially 'user friendly'06:47
arcadiaoooh. so i cannot do something like XFCE as my DE and i3 for wm?06:51
arcadiaI just dont like my windows stacking at each other06:51
arcadiaThis might be the closest thing i can find07:25
arcadiaaskubuntu.com/questions/122674/is-there-a-shortcut-to-tile-windows-to-left-or-right-side-of-the-screen07:25
arcadiathanks guys!07:25
Gumbyhi all. I'm using xubuntu and was wondering if there is something similar to the mate menu in linux mint for xfce.  I've tried the mint menu but it doesnt seem to follow the rest of the panels theme/settings. Anyone have an alternative ?08:13
well_laid_lawnGumby:  you can right click the desktop for a menu08:24
Gumbywell_laid_lawn: thats not what I was asking08:24
arcadiaright click>properties?08:24
koegsthen what is the "mate menu"?08:25
arcadiapanel preferences?08:25
GumbyI'm looking to an alternate menu system for a panel08:25
Gumbymate menu is a linux mint menu08:25
koegsGumby: can you please show an example?08:26
Gumbyhttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mUtA4uiXI98/T830oqE7VCI/AAAAAAAABeA/ykbabUGFHwk/s1600/linux-mint13-mate-main-menu-favorites.png08:26
Gumbyas much as I disliked it at first, it is quite handy to just start typing an application name in the search bar and have matches show above08:28
koegsGumby: XFCE Application Finder08:29
Gumbykoegs: I'd sooner just have it available via the "start" menu08:29
Gumbyhence my original Q if anyone knows of such a beast08:30
koegsi think Super+R is more usefull, you do not need to touch the mouse :)08:31
arcadiahow do i remove icons in desktop?08:57
arcadiaokay found it08:57
XxubuntuAny idea why if ubuntu one is installed tru softwarecentre nothing apear ,no map no ./map but say is installed09:51
well_laid_lawn!ubuntuone10:07
ubottuUbuntu One is a service where you can back up, store, sync and share your data with other Ubuntu One users - For more see https://one.ubuntu.com/ support and help available at #ubuntuone10:07
xubuntu011hello! im IT manager of a company. recently i began installing xubuntu 12.04. i already have 10 machines with that SO10:07
well_laid_lawnXxubuntu:  ^^  see if they can help10:07
xubuntu011but yesterday with the last update, my computers freeze after some random few time10:08
well_laid_lawnerr #ubuntuone that is10:08
Xxubuntu:)10:08
xubuntu011anyone can help?10:08
xubuntu011im reinstalling the computers...10:09
xubuntu011but that cant be the solution. anyone had the same problem?10:09
Xxubuntuasume you cheked the install dvd ?10:09
well_laid_lawnxubuntu011:  are the computers all the same hardware?10:09
xubuntu011no10:10
xubuntu0112 kinds10:10
xubuntu011checked the install dvd? what do u mean10:10
Xxubuntumd5 sum10:11
well_laid_lawn!md510:11
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows10:11
Xxubuntusome can go wrong downloading  etc10:11
well_laid_lawnbut he had installed and updated so it won't be that10:11
Xxubuntudon`t you believe that !10:12
xubuntu011yesterday i just updated via update manager10:12
xubuntu011no dvd10:12
well_laid_lawnxubuntu011:  is there one app you run on all those comps that is not from the repos?10:12
well_laid_lawnor more than one?10:12
xubuntu011i had freefilesync, and libreoffice not installed from the repos10:13
well_laid_lawnsince no one else is reporting such an issue that's where I'd look first10:13
xubuntu011the computers only work for remote access with remmina10:14
well_laid_lawnso it's a gui app then?10:14
well_laid_lawnI don't know remmina10:15
xubuntu011after the update all my computers with xubuntu started to freeze10:15
well_laid_lawnso it's a gui app then that's the issue?10:15
xubuntu011remmina is the gui app to remote access10:15
xubuntu011is there any option like windows to restore the system to a time before?10:16
well_laid_lawnthat narrows it down then - what doesn't remmina start?10:16
well_laid_lawnthere's no rollback feature that I'm aware of10:17
xubuntu011the computer just freezes after some time, even if i dont open any app10:17
well_laid_lawnyou can install an older version of a package if you know what package is causing the fault10:17
xubuntu011if i could knew...10:18
well_laid_lawnso there's something running in the background10:18
well_laid_lawnthat causes the issue10:18
xubuntu011it must be10:19
Xxubuntufew ideas use taskmanager to see what is running  , i had the system was waiting for a input10:19
well_laid_lawnI would try   ps aux > somefilename   then from remmina   ps aux > someotherfile    and diff the files10:20
well_laid_lawnor taskmanager10:20
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xubuntu011can i see the history of last updates?10:31
Xxubuntu gues there be a log but don`t ask where that is10:32
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pedorhi, how I get the bottom panel (expandable dock)?13:49
GridCubethe bottom panel its a default panel pimped out13:53
GridCubeif you deleted it, its gone13:53
pedorGridCube: really? sad to know14:01
ochosipedor: you can re-create it, it's not like it's lost forever14:02
GridCubepedor, yep, you can make one again, or copy the one from the guest session to your ~/.config/xfce/panel14:02
pedorok, i'll try that, thanks14:03
GridCubeor make one better and greater and yourerer14:03
GridCubeP:14:03
pedorhow to make one better?14:04
GridCubeadd a new panel, put it at the bottom and play with it14:05
GridCube:D14:05
pedorhehehe14:05
aicasn-Vi need to build a 32-bit C++/GTK app on xubuntu 64-bit. anyone know where i can get the 32-bit gtk libraries?14:24
GridCubeaicasn-V, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=quantal&section=all&arch=i386&keywords=gtk&searchon=names14:28
GridCube?14:28
aicasn-Vyes. my issue is that i cannot get apt to install them for me14:30
aicasn-Veg.   apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev:i386  lists all the packages i need and then refuses to install them14:31
GridCubemmmm14:31
aicasn-V"Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"14:31
GridCubewell do an sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean14:31
aicasn-Vit's just a bunch of libraries that, i assume, would end up in /usr/lib32 and not conflict with anything else14:31
GridCubethe problem is a broken dep14:32
xubuntu047can I install xubuntu 13.04 inside windows with wubi?14:32
aicasn-Vagree. the way i'm reading it is "you need a,b,c,d but they're 32-bit packages and i'm not going to install them for you"14:32
GridCubeaicasn-V, then intall them manually14:32
GridCubexubuntu047, you might do that, though wubi its not activelly tested by the xubuntu developers and we rely on the mainbuntu wubi testings14:33
GridCubealso, and this is from me, wubi its very much not recommended14:34
aicasn-Vthat's not going to work for me. i'll have to install every single 32-bit library needed by a gtk app one at a time14:46
aicasn-Vsurely there's a way to get my awesome package manager to do that for me, no?14:47
GridCubeaicasn-V, i would guess so14:49
xubuntu591hello need help with a non working mouse in xubuntu 12.04, why am i having problems?14:50
GridCubeaicasn-V, have you read this? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/53114:51
GridCube!details | xubuntu59114:51
ubottuxubuntu591: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:51
xubuntu591installed xubuntu 12.04. pointer (mouse) does not work. fuijitsu lifebook 160G 512 ram14:52
aicasn-VGridCube:  yeah. it looks like it should work but my system may be borked... :/14:52
xubuntu591plug wireless mouse work for a second then quit. conected with wire yesterday installed all updates14:52
xubuntu591for a non working mouse, should i log with live disk: boot from HDD or rescue a broken system?14:55
holsteini usually just try live CD's til something works, then i note the kernel version and modules14:58
holsteinjust because your hardare isnt supported doesnt mean anything is "broken".. so using a method to fix might not help14:58
xubuntu591by trying live cd you mean...14:59
holsteinyou need to see what isnt supported exactly.. is it the mouse? or the usb? is it the hardware that is bad?14:59
holsteinxubuntu591: i usualy try even a knoppix live CD>. i just want to see it working, and take notes14:59
holsteinthen, seeing if functioning can help me see what i need to do to support the device14:59
xubuntu591ok. well the pointer (no mouse or trackpad) in the laptop works, it worked before15:00
holsteinbefore what?15:01
xubuntu591the mouse i pluged in the usb drive also works and lights up. yesterday after install pointer did not work after the updates15:01
xubuntu591worked for a few seconds then neither works, altouhg usb mouse lights up15:01
holsteinxubuntu591: lighting up means nothing15:02
xubuntu591knoppix? not familiar15:02
holsteinxubuntu591: if the laptop were not booting an OS.. and just powering up, it would send power to the USB ports15:02
holsteinthat means nothing for your test case15:02
xubuntu591ok.. well it gets power it lights up, it did work for a bit, i was able to move cursor15:02
holsteinxubuntu591: for a bit?15:03
xubuntu591for a few seconds15:03
holsteinxubuntu591: i would expect that if the battery were bad15:03
xubuntu591two questions 1.F4 is marked with a mouse. any key combo i could use to activate mouse? SUPER key +F4 or smtng like that?15:04
xubuntu591bateries good, it works in other pc15:04
holsteinxubuntu591: that will be hardware specific..15:04
holsteinxubuntu591: do other usb devices work?15:04
xubuntu5912. is there a way to get to applicatios from terminal, i remember reading about changing settings, or activating mouse?15:05
holsteinget to applications?15:05
xubuntu591yes15:05
GridCubeaicasn-V, can i pm you for a moment?15:05
holsteinif you want to type and run applications.. you can use alt+f2.. you can use kupfer, gnome-do, or synapse15:05
aicasn-VGridCube: sure15:06
xubuntu591should i go intu xubuntu or into recovery mode?15:06
holsteinwhy?15:06
holsteinyou have nothing to recover.. i would see what module supported your device in 11.10 and install that in 12.0415:07
holsteinits not really a "recover" step, since its not broken..15:07
xubuntu591ok thank you then xubuntu15:08
xubuntu591holstein thanks, ok im in the run program windows, type applications?15:17
holsteinxubuntu591: you mean, you pressed "alt+f2" and you are asking if you type application names to run them?15:18
holsteinpretty sure they should auto complete there15:18
xubuntu591yes. i remember reading that i can go into applications, to see/change mouse settings..?15:19
holsteinxubuntu591: but you would need to have a mouse first.. and so far, from what you are saying, you have a USB mouse that works for a few seconds, and a trackpad that is not showing up15:20
holsteincould be as simple as a key combination to enable the trackpad.. and who knows about the usb mouse,15:21
xubuntu591correct, the mouse worked for a few sec. but then stopped. trackpad (pointer) dooes not work at all15:21
xubuntu591i dont think buttons: right click, left click work either15:22
holsteini would choose one of those (for me, the internal touchpad would be the one) and focus on it15:22
holsteinxubuntu591: i wouldnt worry about buttons. i would troubleshoot the entire trackpad at once15:22
holsteinhow would i do that? i would get a live CD that a *know* works with that hardware (which you said 11.10 supported it) and get it working15:23
holsteinif i booted 11.10, and the trackpad doesnt work, though i *know* it used to, then i can assume its either broken, or the keyboard or bios has it disabled.. in which case, i can stop messing with setting in the installed 12.04/12.1015:24
holsteinif i boot 11.10 live and the trackpad is working, the i can look and see what is providing that suport and add it to 12.04/12.1015:24
xubuntu591mm ok makes sense. should i go into BIOS? and check that first?15:24
holsteinxubuntu591: i would15:25
xubuntu591ok i will do that.... but not sure where to look for mouse in bios15:26
holsteinxubuntu591: all bios's are different. and there might not be a "disable/enable trackpad" in bios15:29
holsteinxubuntu591: i wouldnt lose sleep over searching the bios.. i would move quick.. look through the pages, then just boot the iso that you know supported the device and test15:30
xubuntu591it said manual, i changed it to always on15:30
holsteinxubuntu591: thats enough right there, likely...15:31
xubuntu591but if it doesnt fix it wil get a 11.10 disk15:31
constantin_mikegmorning15:37
GridCube!hi | constantin_mike15:37
ubottuconstantin_mike: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!15:37
xubuntu591holstein no luck, i guess i will be burning that 11.10 after all15:38
constantin_mikeis there any way (i know i'm asking something very complicate) that, having two displays on the same computer, to use 2 different users in the same time, each on his own display, given that i have 2 mouse controllers and 2 keyboards on the same computer ? :D!!!15:38
constantin_mikeon xubuntu, i mean :D15:38
holsteinxubuntu591: thats what i would do15:39
holsteinconstantin_mike: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX is what you are looking for15:39
xubuntu591mm ok thank you, then how would i go about it. boot from disk? or try ubuntu without installing?15:40
holsteinxubuntu591: boot it live, and test, since you say it worked in 11.10.. see that that is still the case15:40
holsteinxubuntu591: there is no need to waste time installing 11.10.. this is just a troubleshooting step that i would do, if i knew that the device worked in 11.10..15:41
xubuntu591holstein you will not believe this. wireless mouse is working after seconde reboot15:41
xubuntu591wow. :) FINALLY15:41
xubuntu591an operating system15:42
holsteinwell, youve had an operating system.. finally you are using a mouse with it15:42
holsteinwith older hardware, sometimes you gotta tweak a bit, and patiently troubleshoot.. when driver support is not great or obvious15:42
xubuntu591question. now that i have a mouse, is there anything i should be checking? pointing device, trackpad, applications?15:42
constantin_mikeholstein, wow thanks, that is absolutely fantastic. i asked that question more like a joke. i didn't expect this really existed. this is brilliant15:44
xubuntu591network connections not detecting network. how i turn on wifi card?16:01
holstein!wifi | xubuntu59116:02
ubottuxubuntu591: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs16:02
xubuntu591thank you holstein16:02
knome2~16:08
Weber399hey guys, I am having a weird problem16:33
Weber399I tried to replace openjdk with oracle java, everything went fine. The problem is, that when I try to run java, it cannot find the file16:34
Weber399But it's there. The path is set correctly all that stuff16:34
Weber399*and all16:34
genii-aroundWeber399: Did you add with update-alternatives?16:46
Weber399yes. Also I am currently with a bash in the exact directory said file is located16:48
genii-aroundWeber399: If you do: which java            what does it say?16:48
Weber399if I type ls -l it even shows the damn file. I changed it's permission to 777 and still not working16:48
Weber399jdk1.7.0_1716:49
genii-aroundWeber399: What is the result of:  ls -l /etc/alternatives/java16:49
genii-aroundeg: it should be something like lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Feb 26 14:53 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java16:50
Weber399nope, it's saying (rough translation) access of /etc/... not possible: file or directory not found16:50
Weber399I mean, even if I go into the bin folder where the java binary is located and type ./java it cannot be found16:52
genii-aroundWhat says result of: sudo update-alternatives --list java16:53
genii-around( pastebin please )16:54
Weber399second please16:54
Weber399it's just one line, so I am gonna paste it here and translate it16:54
Weber399update-alternatives: error: no alternative for java16:55
Weber399I found the problem. Was my retardness. Downloaded Java in the wrong architecure.17:00
Weber399brb, smashing my head against a wall17:00
Weber399but thanks for your help mate.17:01
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mbaragiolahello, does anyone know which one is the code for binding the hotkey for turning on wireless connections in Xfce? my keyboard shows fn+F11 but Xubuntu seems to not recognize it by default. Ubuntu did23:14
ner0xWhat can I use for webcam access?23:20
mbaragiolatried rfkill unblock all but didnt work, seems like hardware disabled23:21
Unit193ner0x: What about cheese23:22
ner0xUnit193: Installs gnome?23:22
Unit193mbaragiola: Think you're missing a program?23:22
Unit193ner0x: No idea.23:23
ner0xUnit193: It does.23:23
Unit193And what exactly do you mean by "webcam access"?  Images would do?23:27
Unit193Heck if you basically just want a mirror, vlc.23:27
ner0xUnit193: I just wanted to test Skype was working. Looks like it is. (They had a test feature in the options)23:31
ner0xThanks though. :)23:31
mbaragiolaUnit193: perhaps?23:39
mbaragiolawhich one should i look?23:39
Unit193Brand of computer?23:39
mbaragiolais not that known outside my country. PositivoBGH23:40
mbaragiolait has UEFI23:40
mbaragiolait came with Windows 823:40
Unit193And what exactly did  rfkill list  have anywho?23:41
mbaragiolais not listing wifi nor wlan23:43
Unit193Alright, standard lspci output?   And you do in fact have the driver?23:44
mbaragiolahow do I know if I have the driver?23:44
mbaragiolahttp://pastebin.com/vtEn0yMC23:46
Unit193You can pull up Software Sources > Additional Drivers.23:46
mbaragiolathats my lspci output23:46
mbaragiolawill do23:46
mbaragiolaAdditional Drivers is blank23:47
mbaragiolabut most of my hardware is Intel23:48
mbaragiolaI have nonfree off, should I turn it on?23:48
Unit193Well, firmware-realtek is in my repos, but not main.  If you are wired to the internet Additional Drivers should actually find it, at least I think.23:49
Unit193!realtek23:49
ubottusome help for recent Realtek chipsets can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b23:49
mbaragiolathanks Unit193 :)23:52
Vadragashhi there23:58
VadragashI had a question if anyone has a second23:59
VadragashWhere can I access the repositored for xubuntu and/or find a list of what's in them?23:59
Vadragashrepository*23:59

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