[02:15] <xubuntu006> \o/
[02:19] <xubuntu006> im alive !!!
[02:35] <buttsniffer> is there a way to lock programs to a certain workspace? I've tried the 'stick' button and set the option to 'Only on this workspace' but windows keep jumping around
[02:36] <buttsniffer> for example I have Firefox on one workspace, chat client on another, when I click a link in my chat client, I would like Firefox to stay on it's workspace when it loads the page
[03:09] <IdleOne> buttsniffer: the ubuntu channels try and keep a family friendly atmosphere. It would be great if you could change your nick to something less potentially/possibly offensive. Thank you.
[03:14] <alnwrk> sorry
[03:14] <alnwrk> :D
[03:15] <alnwrk> dogs nickname
[03:21] <IdleOne> Didn't personally bother me but someone did say something in private. So i asked nice and you were nice about it. :)
[03:21] <alnwrk> no worries
[03:21] <IdleOne> anyway, don't know how to help with your question :/
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> I don't think I was in here when you asked it...
[03:22] <alnwrk> is there a way to lock programs to a certain workspace? I've tried the 'stick' button and set the option to 'Only on this workspace' but windows keep jumping around
[03:22] <Unit193> I've noticed that behavior, but as I don't use desktops as much, and can send it back pretty easily...
[03:23] <alnwrk> it's just annoying to keep sending firefox back to it's workspace when I click links in my chat client
[03:23] <alnwrk> which is actually irssi, inside tmux, maximized
[03:24] <SonikkuAmerica> alnwrk: Is it because you're calling it from another workspace?
[03:24] <alnwrk> SonikkuAmerica: I've never had that issue before, but I cant remember if I was running XFCE or i3
[03:25] <SonikkuAmerica> What's i3?
[03:26] <alnwrk> i3 is awesome that's what it is! http://i3wm.org/
[03:26] <Unit193> Xombrero doesn't move to the second workspace.
[03:30] <SonikkuAmerica> alnwrk: Oh wow... shiny object...
[03:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Xfce 4.10 has no problem with workspace jumping...
[03:32] <alnwrk> yeah I'm not sure what the deal is
[03:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, I can't really get to the bottom of this until I know which DE you were using. And I have to go.
[03:35] <alnwrk> "This is xfwm4 version 4.10.0 (revision cc70567) for Xfce 4.10"
[03:52] <Dr^Fets> I have the same issue
[03:52] <Dr^Fets> xfce 4.8
[03:52] <Dr^Fets> I can't stick a frame to a workspace
[06:14] <arcadia> hello?
[06:14] <baizon> hi
[06:16] <arcadia> i want to know if i can save my panels? backup a config file or what not, then load it for another machine?
[06:18] <arcadia> im new to xfce and the main reason for switching is the customization, so i if ever i made a customization that i liked, can i save it and load again whenever i need to? (e.g. refornat my machine)
[06:19] <baizon> arcadia: you can
[06:19] <arcadia> okay thanks
[06:19] <arcadia> ill just do my research, just wanted to clarify, just to save time
[06:20] <baizon> arcadia: a hint... http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7432
[06:28] <arcadia> thank you so much.
[06:29] <arcadia> and one more thing, i wanted to explore more on tiling windows, can i do that using xfwm?
[06:30] <arcadia> like splitting my workspace in 4 windows
[06:31] <arcadia> i did the window manager>advacned>uncheck wrap workspaces
[06:32] <baizon> arcadia: you mean this? http://www.iloveubuntu.net/sites/default/files/field/image/workspace%20switcher%20ubuntu%2011.10%20redesigned.png
[06:37] <arcadia> baizon: more of like this
[06:37] <arcadia> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LGcjSAPwUQA/Tq5nKFGeN-I/AAAAAAAAAbU/nXGIwKJPWBg/s1600/mydesktop.png
[06:37] <arcadia> i believe this is another WM, but i was wondering if xfwm can do that?
[06:39] <Unit193> That looks more like awesomewm.
[06:40] <baizon> indeed, never seen such tiling
[06:41] <arcadia> or xmonad? i tried searching and i got overwhelmed by information. I just new to linux
[06:42] <arcadia> i tried i3 before using xfce
[06:43] <arcadia> the closest thing that i did was 'aero snap' here in xfwm
[06:43] <laite> arcadia: xfwm can't do real tiling of windows
[06:43] <laite> If you're interested, there's quite a comprehensive table of tiling wms in archwiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Comparison_of_Tiling_Window_Managers
[06:44] <laite> most populars (I think) are indeed i3, awesome, xmonad, perhaps dwm
[06:45] <baizon> arcadia: this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF76DELEpjM
[06:46] <arcadia> laite: last time i tried i3, it gave me a plain desktop. haha
[06:47] <laite> yeah, for some reason tiling window managers are not especially 'user friendly'
[06:51] <arcadia> oooh. so i cannot do something like XFCE as my DE and i3 for wm?
[06:51] <arcadia> I just dont like my windows stacking at each other
[07:25] <arcadia> This might be the closest thing i can find
[07:25] <arcadia> askubuntu.com/questions/122674/is-there-a-shortcut-to-tile-windows-to-left-or-right-side-of-the-screen
[07:25] <arcadia> thanks guys!
[08:13] <Gumby> hi all. I'm using xubuntu and was wondering if there is something similar to the mate menu in linux mint for xfce.  I've tried the mint menu but it doesnt seem to follow the rest of the panels theme/settings. Anyone have an alternative ?
[08:24] <well_laid_lawn> Gumby:  you can right click the desktop for a menu
[08:24] <Gumby> well_laid_lawn: thats not what I was asking
[08:24] <arcadia> right click>properties?
[08:25] <koegs> then what is the "mate menu"?
[08:25] <arcadia> panel preferences?
[08:25] <Gumby> I'm looking to an alternate menu system for a panel
[08:25] <Gumby> mate menu is a linux mint menu
[08:26] <koegs> Gumby: can you please show an example?
[08:26] <Gumby> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mUtA4uiXI98/T830oqE7VCI/AAAAAAAABeA/ykbabUGFHwk/s1600/linux-mint13-mate-main-menu-favorites.png
[08:28] <Gumby> as much as I disliked it at first, it is quite handy to just start typing an application name in the search bar and have matches show above
[08:29] <koegs> Gumby: XFCE Application Finder
[08:29] <Gumby> koegs: I'd sooner just have it available via the "start" menu
[08:30] <Gumby> hence my original Q if anyone knows of such a beast
[08:31] <koegs> i think Super+R is more usefull, you do not need to touch the mouse :)
[08:57] <arcadia> how do i remove icons in desktop?
[08:57] <arcadia> okay found it
[09:51] <Xxubuntu> Any idea why if ubuntu one is installed tru softwarecentre nothing apear ,no map no ./map but say is installed
[10:07] <well_laid_lawn> !ubuntuone
[10:07] <xubuntu011> hello! im IT manager of a company. recently i began installing xubuntu 12.04. i already have 10 machines with that SO
[10:07] <well_laid_lawn> Xxubuntu:  ^^  see if they can help
[10:08] <xubuntu011> but yesterday with the last update, my computers freeze after some random few time
[10:08] <well_laid_lawn> err #ubuntuone that is
[10:08] <Xxubuntu> :)
[10:08] <xubuntu011> anyone can help?
[10:09] <xubuntu011> im reinstalling the computers...
[10:09] <xubuntu011> but that cant be the solution. anyone had the same problem?
[10:09] <Xxubuntu> asume you cheked the install dvd ?
[10:09] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu011:  are the computers all the same hardware?
[10:10] <xubuntu011> no
[10:10] <xubuntu011> 2 kinds
[10:10] <xubuntu011> checked the install dvd? what do u mean
[10:11] <Xxubuntu> md5 sum
[10:11] <well_laid_lawn> !md5
[10:11] <Xxubuntu> some can go wrong downloading  etc
[10:11] <well_laid_lawn> but he had installed and updated so it won't be that
[10:12] <Xxubuntu> don`t you believe that !
[10:12] <xubuntu011> yesterday i just updated via update manager
[10:12] <xubuntu011> no dvd
[10:12] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu011:  is there one app you run on all those comps that is not from the repos?
[10:12] <well_laid_lawn> or more than one?
[10:13] <xubuntu011> i had freefilesync, and libreoffice not installed from the repos
[10:13] <well_laid_lawn> since no one else is reporting such an issue that's where I'd look first
[10:14] <xubuntu011> the computers only work for remote access with remmina
[10:14] <well_laid_lawn> so it's a gui app then?
[10:15] <well_laid_lawn> I don't know remmina
[10:15] <xubuntu011> after the update all my computers with xubuntu started to freeze
[10:15] <well_laid_lawn> so it's a gui app then that's the issue?
[10:15] <xubuntu011> remmina is the gui app to remote access
[10:16] <xubuntu011> is there any option like windows to restore the system to a time before?
[10:16] <well_laid_lawn> that narrows it down then - what doesn't remmina start?
[10:17] <well_laid_lawn> there's no rollback feature that I'm aware of
[10:17] <xubuntu011> the computer just freezes after some time, even if i dont open any app
[10:17] <well_laid_lawn> you can install an older version of a package if you know what package is causing the fault
[10:18] <xubuntu011> if i could knew...
[10:18] <well_laid_lawn> so there's something running in the background
[10:18] <well_laid_lawn> that causes the issue
[10:19] <xubuntu011> it must be
[10:19] <Xxubuntu> few ideas use taskmanager to see what is running  , i had the system was waiting for a input
[10:20] <well_laid_lawn> I would try   ps aux > somefilename   then from remmina   ps aux > someotherfile    and diff the files
[10:20] <well_laid_lawn> or taskmanager
[10:31] <xubuntu011> can i see the history of last updates?
[10:32] <Xxubuntu>  gues there be a log but don`t ask where that is
[13:49] <pedor> hi, how I get the bottom panel (expandable dock)?
[13:53] <GridCube> the bottom panel its a default panel pimped out
[13:53] <GridCube> if you deleted it, its gone
[14:01] <pedor> GridCube: really? sad to know
[14:02] <ochosi> pedor: you can re-create it, it's not like it's lost forever
[14:02] <GridCube> pedor, yep, you can make one again, or copy the one from the guest session to your ~/.config/xfce/panel
[14:03] <pedor> ok, i'll try that, thanks
[14:03] <GridCube> or make one better and greater and yourerer
[14:03] <GridCube> P:
[14:04] <pedor> how to make one better?
[14:05] <GridCube> add a new panel, put it at the bottom and play with it
[14:05] <GridCube> :D
[14:05] <pedor> hehehe
[14:24] <aicasn-V> i need to build a 32-bit C++/GTK app on xubuntu 64-bit. anyone know where i can get the 32-bit gtk libraries?
[14:28] <GridCube> aicasn-V, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=quantal&section=all&arch=i386&keywords=gtk&searchon=names
[14:28] <GridCube> ?
[14:30] <aicasn-V> yes. my issue is that i cannot get apt to install them for me
[14:31] <aicasn-V> eg.   apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev:i386  lists all the packages i need and then refuses to install them
[14:31] <GridCube> mmmm
[14:31] <aicasn-V> "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[14:31] <GridCube> well do an sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[14:31] <aicasn-V> it's just a bunch of libraries that, i assume, would end up in /usr/lib32 and not conflict with anything else
[14:32] <GridCube> the problem is a broken dep
[14:32] <xubuntu047> can I install xubuntu 13.04 inside windows with wubi?
[14:32] <aicasn-V> agree. the way i'm reading it is "you need a,b,c,d but they're 32-bit packages and i'm not going to install them for you"
[14:32] <GridCube> aicasn-V, then intall them manually
[14:33] <GridCube> xubuntu047, you might do that, though wubi its not activelly tested by the xubuntu developers and we rely on the mainbuntu wubi testings
[14:34] <GridCube> also, and this is from me, wubi its very much not recommended
[14:46] <aicasn-V> that's not going to work for me. i'll have to install every single 32-bit library needed by a gtk app one at a time
[14:47] <aicasn-V> surely there's a way to get my awesome package manager to do that for me, no?
[14:49] <GridCube> aicasn-V, i would guess so
[14:50] <xubuntu591> hello need help with a non working mouse in xubuntu 12.04, why am i having problems?
[14:51] <GridCube> aicasn-V, have you read this? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/531
[14:51] <GridCube> !details | xubuntu591
[14:52] <xubuntu591> installed xubuntu 12.04. pointer (mouse) does not work. fuijitsu lifebook 160G 512 ram
[14:52] <aicasn-V> GridCube:  yeah. it looks like it should work but my system may be borked... :/
[14:52] <xubuntu591> plug wireless mouse work for a second then quit. conected with wire yesterday installed all updates
[14:55] <xubuntu591> for a non working mouse, should i log with live disk: boot from HDD or rescue a broken system?
[14:58] <holstein> i usually just try live CD's til something works, then i note the kernel version and modules
[14:58] <holstein> just because your hardare isnt supported doesnt mean anything is "broken".. so using a method to fix might not help
[14:59] <xubuntu591> by trying live cd you mean...
[14:59] <holstein> you need to see what isnt supported exactly.. is it the mouse? or the usb? is it the hardware that is bad?
[14:59] <holstein> xubuntu591: i usualy try even a knoppix live CD>. i just want to see it working, and take notes
[14:59] <holstein> then, seeing if functioning can help me see what i need to do to support the device
[15:00] <xubuntu591> ok. well the pointer (no mouse or trackpad) in the laptop works, it worked before
[15:01] <holstein> before what?
[15:01] <xubuntu591> the mouse i pluged in the usb drive also works and lights up. yesterday after install pointer did not work after the updates
[15:01] <xubuntu591> worked for a few seconds then neither works, altouhg usb mouse lights up
[15:02] <holstein> xubuntu591: lighting up means nothing
[15:02] <xubuntu591> knoppix? not familiar
[15:02] <holstein> xubuntu591: if the laptop were not booting an OS.. and just powering up, it would send power to the USB ports
[15:02] <holstein> that means nothing for your test case
[15:02] <xubuntu591> ok.. well it gets power it lights up, it did work for a bit, i was able to move cursor
[15:03] <holstein> xubuntu591: for a bit?
[15:03] <xubuntu591> for a few seconds
[15:03] <holstein> xubuntu591: i would expect that if the battery were bad
[15:04] <xubuntu591> two questions 1.F4 is marked with a mouse. any key combo i could use to activate mouse? SUPER key +F4 or smtng like that?
[15:04] <xubuntu591> bateries good, it works in other pc
[15:04] <holstein> xubuntu591: that will be hardware specific..
[15:04] <holstein> xubuntu591: do other usb devices work?
[15:05] <xubuntu591> 2. is there a way to get to applicatios from terminal, i remember reading about changing settings, or activating mouse?
[15:05] <holstein> get to applications?
[15:05] <xubuntu591> yes
[15:05] <GridCube> aicasn-V, can i pm you for a moment?
[15:05] <holstein> if you want to type and run applications.. you can use alt+f2.. you can use kupfer, gnome-do, or synapse
[15:06] <aicasn-V> GridCube: sure
[15:06] <xubuntu591> should i go intu xubuntu or into recovery mode?
[15:06] <holstein> why?
[15:07] <holstein> you have nothing to recover.. i would see what module supported your device in 11.10 and install that in 12.04
[15:07] <holstein> its not really a "recover" step, since its not broken..
[15:08] <xubuntu591> ok thank you then xubuntu
[15:17] <xubuntu591> holstein thanks, ok im in the run program windows, type applications?
[15:18] <holstein> xubuntu591: you mean, you pressed "alt+f2" and you are asking if you type application names to run them?
[15:18] <holstein> pretty sure they should auto complete there
[15:19] <xubuntu591> yes. i remember reading that i can go into applications, to see/change mouse settings..?
[15:20] <holstein> xubuntu591: but you would need to have a mouse first.. and so far, from what you are saying, you have a USB mouse that works for a few seconds, and a trackpad that is not showing up
[15:21] <holstein> could be as simple as a key combination to enable the trackpad.. and who knows about the usb mouse,
[15:21] <xubuntu591> correct, the mouse worked for a few sec. but then stopped. trackpad (pointer) dooes not work at all
[15:22] <xubuntu591> i dont think buttons: right click, left click work either
[15:22] <holstein> i would choose one of those (for me, the internal touchpad would be the one) and focus on it
[15:22] <holstein> xubuntu591: i wouldnt worry about buttons. i would troubleshoot the entire trackpad at once
[15:23] <holstein> how would i do that? i would get a live CD that a *know* works with that hardware (which you said 11.10 supported it) and get it working
[15:24] <holstein> if i booted 11.10, and the trackpad doesnt work, though i *know* it used to, then i can assume its either broken, or the keyboard or bios has it disabled.. in which case, i can stop messing with setting in the installed 12.04/12.10
[15:24] <holstein> if i boot 11.10 live and the trackpad is working, the i can look and see what is providing that suport and add it to 12.04/12.10
[15:24] <xubuntu591> mm ok makes sense. should i go into BIOS? and check that first?
[15:25] <holstein> xubuntu591: i would
[15:26] <xubuntu591> ok i will do that.... but not sure where to look for mouse in bios
[15:29] <holstein> xubuntu591: all bios's are different. and there might not be a "disable/enable trackpad" in bios
[15:30] <holstein> xubuntu591: i wouldnt lose sleep over searching the bios.. i would move quick.. look through the pages, then just boot the iso that you know supported the device and test
[15:30] <xubuntu591> it said manual, i changed it to always on
[15:31] <holstein> xubuntu591: thats enough right there, likely...
[15:31] <xubuntu591> but if it doesnt fix it wil get a 11.10 disk
[15:37] <constantin_mike> gmorning
[15:37] <GridCube> !hi | constantin_mike
[15:38] <xubuntu591> holstein no luck, i guess i will be burning that 11.10 after all
[15:38] <constantin_mike> is there any way (i know i'm asking something very complicate) that, having two displays on the same computer, to use 2 different users in the same time, each on his own display, given that i have 2 mouse controllers and 2 keyboards on the same computer ? :D!!!
[15:38] <constantin_mike> on xubuntu, i mean :D
[15:39] <holstein> xubuntu591: thats what i would do
[15:39] <holstein> constantin_mike: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX is what you are looking for
[15:40] <xubuntu591> mm ok thank you, then how would i go about it. boot from disk? or try ubuntu without installing?
[15:40] <holstein> xubuntu591: boot it live, and test, since you say it worked in 11.10.. see that that is still the case
[15:41] <holstein> xubuntu591: there is no need to waste time installing 11.10.. this is just a troubleshooting step that i would do, if i knew that the device worked in 11.10..
[15:41] <xubuntu591> holstein you will not believe this. wireless mouse is working after seconde reboot
[15:41] <xubuntu591> wow. :) FINALLY
[15:42] <xubuntu591> an operating system
[15:42] <holstein> well, youve had an operating system.. finally you are using a mouse with it
[15:42] <holstein> with older hardware, sometimes you gotta tweak a bit, and patiently troubleshoot.. when driver support is not great or obvious
[15:42] <xubuntu591> question. now that i have a mouse, is there anything i should be checking? pointing device, trackpad, applications?
[15:44] <constantin_mike> holstein, wow thanks, that is absolutely fantastic. i asked that question more like a joke. i didn't expect this really existed. this is brilliant
[16:01] <xubuntu591> network connections not detecting network. how i turn on wifi card?
[16:02] <holstein> !wifi | xubuntu591
[16:02] <xubuntu591> thank you holstein
[16:08] <knome> 2~
[16:33] <Weber399> hey guys, I am having a weird problem
[16:34] <Weber399> I tried to replace openjdk with oracle java, everything went fine. The problem is, that when I try to run java, it cannot find the file
[16:34] <Weber399> But it's there. The path is set correctly all that stuff
[16:34] <Weber399> *and all
[16:46] <genii-around> Weber399: Did you add with update-alternatives?
[16:48] <Weber399> yes. Also I am currently with a bash in the exact directory said file is located
[16:48] <genii-around> Weber399: If you do: which java            what does it say?
[16:48] <Weber399> if I type ls -l it even shows the damn file. I changed it's permission to 777 and still not working
[16:49] <Weber399> jdk1.7.0_17
[16:49] <genii-around> Weber399: What is the result of:  ls -l /etc/alternatives/java
[16:50] <genii-around> eg: it should be something like lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Feb 26 14:53 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java
[16:50] <Weber399> nope, it's saying (rough translation) access of /etc/... not possible: file or directory not found
[16:52] <Weber399> I mean, even if I go into the bin folder where the java binary is located and type ./java it cannot be found
[16:53] <genii-around> What says result of: sudo update-alternatives --list java
[16:54] <genii-around> ( pastebin please )
[16:54] <Weber399> second please
[16:54] <Weber399> it's just one line, so I am gonna paste it here and translate it
[16:55] <Weber399> update-alternatives: error: no alternative for java
[17:00] <Weber399> I found the problem. Was my retardness. Downloaded Java in the wrong architecure.
[17:00] <Weber399> brb, smashing my head against a wall
[17:01] <Weber399> but thanks for your help mate.
[23:14] <mbaragiola> hello, does anyone know which one is the code for binding the hotkey for turning on wireless connections in Xfce? my keyboard shows fn+F11 but Xubuntu seems to not recognize it by default. Ubuntu did
[23:20] <ner0x> What can I use for webcam access?
[23:21] <mbaragiola> tried rfkill unblock all but didnt work, seems like hardware disabled
[23:22] <Unit193> ner0x: What about cheese
[23:22] <ner0x> Unit193: Installs gnome?
[23:22] <Unit193> mbaragiola: Think you're missing a program?
[23:23] <Unit193> ner0x: No idea.
[23:23] <ner0x> Unit193: It does.
[23:27] <Unit193> And what exactly do you mean by "webcam access"?  Images would do?
[23:27] <Unit193> Heck if you basically just want a mirror, vlc.
[23:31] <ner0x> Unit193: I just wanted to test Skype was working. Looks like it is. (They had a test feature in the options)
[23:31] <ner0x> Thanks though. :)
[23:39] <mbaragiola> Unit193: perhaps?
[23:39] <mbaragiola> which one should i look?
[23:39] <Unit193> Brand of computer?
[23:40] <mbaragiola> is not that known outside my country. PositivoBGH
[23:40] <mbaragiola> it has UEFI
[23:40] <mbaragiola> it came with Windows 8
[23:41] <Unit193> And what exactly did  rfkill list  have anywho?
[23:43] <mbaragiola> is not listing wifi nor wlan
[23:44] <Unit193> Alright, standard lspci output?   And you do in fact have the driver?
[23:44] <mbaragiola> how do I know if I have the driver?
[23:46] <mbaragiola> http://pastebin.com/vtEn0yMC
[23:46] <Unit193> You can pull up Software Sources > Additional Drivers.
[23:46] <mbaragiola> thats my lspci output
[23:46] <mbaragiola> will do
[23:47] <mbaragiola> Additional Drivers is blank
[23:48] <mbaragiola> but most of my hardware is Intel
[23:48] <mbaragiola> I have nonfree off, should I turn it on?
[23:49] <Unit193> Well, firmware-realtek is in my repos, but not main.  If you are wired to the internet Additional Drivers should actually find it, at least I think.
[23:49] <Unit193> !realtek
[23:52] <mbaragiola> thanks Unit193 :)
[23:58] <Vadragash> hi there
[23:59] <Vadragash> I had a question if anyone has a second
[23:59] <Vadragash> Where can I access the repositored for xubuntu and/or find a list of what's in them?
[23:59] <Vadragash> repository*