[03:27] <ahoneybun> hello?
[03:36] <ahoneybun> so dead
[06:31]  * smartboyhw waves
[09:34] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:46] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1157800] vlc crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_equal() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1157800 (by Lorenzo De Liso)
[11:14] <Quintasan> Kind of slowpoke but do we have Plasma Media Center 1.0 packages?
[11:25] <yofel_> Quintasan: not unless you packaged it
[11:25] <Quintasan> consider it done
[11:27] <yofel> Quintasan: there is some kind of package from you in the experimental PPA actually
[11:27] <yofel> from git though
[11:27] <Quintasan> Exactly, that's why I asked if someone did 1.0.0
[11:27] <Quintasan> Well. I'm almost done with it
[11:28] <shadeslayer> I haven't heard good things about it
[11:28] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462534
[11:29] <Quintasan> plasma-mediacenter-1.0.0-1.tar.gz
[11:29] <Quintasan> >-1
[11:30] <Quintasan> who the hell names their tarballs like that?
[11:30] <Quintasan> yofel: The core is laggy again :(
[11:30] <yofel> :/
[11:30] <shadeslayer> anyway, I have to go again. cya
[11:30] <Quintasan> So he got segfault and whines?
[11:30] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/issues/680
[11:30] <Quintasan> maybe use a decent distro or USEFLAGS
[11:31] <shadeslayer> in case you didn't see it yet
[11:31] <shadeslayer> now bye
[11:31] <yofel> hm, interesting
[11:33] <Quintasan> fcks
[11:33] <Quintasan> I forgot to copy over my gpg key to laptop
[11:34] <yofel> shadeslayer: hm, thanks. I'll see if I can work something out from that.
[11:35] <Quintasan> yofel: think this random_page_cost will work>?
[11:45] <yofel> yeowch, this is slow indeed. Fetch 1000 lines from Quintasan's #ubuntu+1 log -> Total runtime: 30935.918 ms
[11:54] <Quintasan> :O
[11:54] <Quintasan> yofel: You are using PostgreSQL there?
[11:54] <yofel> yes
[11:55] <yofel> sqlite doesn't scale as soon as you have >20 channels counting all users from my experience
[12:18] <Mamarok> is that a known isuse with the beta iso amd64 that it hangs at the Preparation step?
[12:20] <Mamarok> totally unusable
[12:20] <yofel> did you selectin installing third party stuff?
[12:20] <Mamarok> yes, but hangs also if not
[12:21] <Mamarok> it just hangs, whatever option I try
[12:21] <yofel> hm, not good. Can you retry this from a live session and please report a bug after it hangs up with 'ubuntu-bug ubiquity'?
[12:21] <Mamarok> wait, download activated and 3rd-party disabled now works, but took ages to continue
[12:22] <yofel> :S
[12:22] <Mamarok> si is that 3rd-party hanging known
[12:22] <Mamarok> so* is
[12:22] <Mamarok> ?
[12:22] <yofel> well, it does install a few things in the background which takes a while - without telling you that it does something
[12:22] <yofel> so the questions is whether it does eventually continue
[12:23] <Mamarok> a while like 10 minutes?
[12:23] <yofel> never took that long for me, but I have fast test systems
[12:23] <Mamarok> and AFAIK nothing is installed yet at that stage, it's step 2, prepare for installation
[12:24] <Mamarok> but my question was: is activating the 3rd-party stuff thing a known isuse?
[12:25] <yofel> it is known that there is no user feedback for installing stuff, which makes it appear to be hung for a while
[12:25] <yofel> someone said that it completely hangs for him too
[12:25] <yofel> but I don't think that ever got completely debugged as there wasn't enough information
[12:25] <Mamarok> it completely hanged, I waited ten miuntes and then quit
[12:25] <yofel> so if you can please file a bug
[12:26] <Mamarok> will do, it's just not on this system, so that will not help much
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:12] <soee> good morning
[15:19] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[15:48] <Mamarok> what package should I file a bug against when I want to request that outdated kernels are added to the autoremove group?
[15:49] <Mamarok> cause if one does not clean up by hand old kernels lie around forerver
[15:53] <BluesKaj> autoremove and autoclean help keep the / clean with a small footprint on my setup
[15:54] <Mamarok> the problem is that the old kernels are not marked as obsolete
[15:54] <Mamarok> so they don't show up in autoremove
[15:58] <BluesKaj> well, i just purge them and keep a couple as backup
[16:05] <yofel> old kernels (except current and current-1) show up in autoremove for me in 13.04
[16:14] <BluesKaj> Mamarok:  I like your idea , but I didn't realize that it qualifies as a bug in autoremove 
[16:33] <Mamarok> yofel: not for me
[16:33] <Mamarok> all the old 3.5.x ones where still there after the upgrade
[16:34] <Mamarok> and now I have alread 3 versions of 3.8.0, noe shows in autoremove, althugh the oldest one should
[16:34] <yofel> aah, it might only work for the new 3.8 kernels
[16:34] <yofel> hm
[16:36] <Mamarok> I think it makes sense to keep the current running and the previous one, but the users houlsd not have to lean up the old kernels by hand
[16:36] <Mamarok> to clean up*
[16:36] <Mamarok> all the old 3.5.x where still there after the upgrade to 13-04
[16:40] <yofel> I don't quite understand that part of the upgrade either. As for 3.8 the autoremove blacklist is in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernel - everything else should show up in autoremove
[16:41] <Mamarok> so it is a bug, no?
[16:43] <yofel> I don't know. When it comes to *old* kernels, the only old one I have is 3.5.0-17, which is marked as manual and so correctly still installed
[16:43] <yofel> which kernels do you actually have installed?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> I still have 3.5.0.26 ...strange 
[19:29] <ScottK> Might be a good idea if someone looked at updating bespin.
[22:04] <Riddell> "David Wonderly (david.wonderly) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team" yay Darkwing still loves us
[22:04] <Darkwing> :D But of course
[22:05] <Quintasan> hmmm
[22:05] <Quintasan> that reminds me
[22:06] <Quintasan> Riddell: We can't smuggle new packages into raring now?
[22:06] <yofel> ffe ^^
[22:06] <Darkwing> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[22:07] <Quintasan> I know we are well past Feature Freeze
[22:07] <Darkwing> :D
[22:07] <Darkwing> We are nearing the final beta freeze
[22:10] <ScottK> Quintasan: New packages are low risk and as long as an archive administrator is available to review, I generally approve them.
[22:12] <Quintasan> ScottK: I see, I'd like to get PMC 1.0.0 in raring tomorrow
[22:12] <ScottK> OK.  If you file the FFe and Riddell agrees to do the New, I'll approve it.
[22:18] <Riddell> Quintasan: yeah I was thinking that would be good too
[22:18] <Riddell> so I'd look on it favourably if you package and test it
[22:18] <Quintasan> Splendid.
[22:19] <Quintasan> I have it packaged but can't upload since no keys on laptop
[22:19] <Riddell> get it to me or anyone else to upload
[22:39] <Quintasan> crap
[22:39] <Quintasan> Riddell: Small copyright mumbojumbo caught
[22:42]  * Riddell learns new Polish word mumbojumbo
[22:42] <Quintasan> It's not Polish
[22:42] <Quintasan> :P
[22:42] <Quintasan> Riddell: dget -xu https://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/plasma-mediacenter_1.0.0-0ubuntu1.dsc
[22:44] <Riddell> Quintasan: did you file a FFe?
[22:45] <Quintasan> not yet
[22:45] <Quintasan> I'll try doing it if LP stops timing out on me
[22:45] <Riddell> Quintasan: LGPL in there too
[22:46] <Quintasan> I think I covered that
[22:46] <Riddell> Quintasan: not in the version you just sent me
[22:46] <Quintasan> ah crap
[22:46] <Quintasan> I'm dumb
[22:46] <Quintasan> sorry
[22:47] <Quintasan> ...
[22:47] <Quintasan> ...
[22:47] <Quintasan> I just removed the whole directory
[22:47] <Quintasan> @##@#$@#%!#@$@
[23:10] <Quintasan> Riddell: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/debian.tar.bz2
[23:10] <Quintasan> Try this
[23:14] <Quintasan> bug #1159262
[23:14] <Quintasan> Riddell: ^
[23:25] <Quintasan> Riddell: I'm not entirely sure if the double license file was done correctly
[23:36] <Riddell> Quintasan: looks good
[23:38] <Quintasan> Brilliant.
[23:40] <Quintasan> ScottK: Regarding KWin <-> Compiz breakage, do we ship compiz-kde?
[23:41] <Riddell> Quintasan: I think it's long since disappeared
[23:41] <Quintasan> Hmm, we don't really care about the removed interface then
[23:41] <Riddell> Quintasan: boom http://paste.kde.org/704408/
[23:42] <Quintasan> huh
[23:42] <shadeslayer> told you
[23:43] <Quintasan> Riddell: Care to install libqtmultimediakit1 if it's not installed?
[23:43] <Riddell> Quintasan: same boom
[23:43] <Quintasan> Weird
[23:44] <Riddell> libdeclarative-multimedia I'd gues
[23:44] <Riddell> libdeclarative-multimedia I'd guess
[23:44] <Quintasan> Let me rebuild here
[23:44] <Riddell> yep that helps
[23:44] <Riddell> just a runtime dep
[23:44] <Quintasan> file:///usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/plasma/mediacentercomponents/keyhandler/KeyHandler.qml: File not found 
[23:44] <Quintasan> hah
[23:45] <Quintasan> I guess wildcards did not work there for me
[23:45] <Quintasan> rebuild time
[23:47] <Riddell> Quintasan: hey this thing is really working now :)
[23:47] <Riddell> better than last time I tried it
[23:47] <Quintasan> Yeah
[23:47] <Quintasan> I just recompiled it
[23:49] <Quintasan> for some reason I'm not getting thumbnails for videos
[23:49] <Quintasan> Riddell: Can you add that runtime dep on libdeclarative and upload?
[23:57] <Riddell> Quintasan: not without a FFe
[23:57] <Quintasan> that brings us to ScottK
[23:59] <Riddell> oh yes you did file a bug