[00:36] <MraAlbertina> Hi. Is it possible to VNC a headless server? If so, does it need X server?
[00:39] <MraAlbertina> let me rephrase my doubts... do i need a desktop environment to VNC a headless server?
[00:41] <sarnold> MraAlbertina: you may be able to get away with 'ssh -X user@server programname' if you just want to run one specific GUI program..
[00:43] <MraAlbertina> sarnold: for instance, i'm trying to run synergy (which i never had problems) and i believe now (saddly) i might need their gui
[00:44] <MraAlbertina> this pc really doens't have display (broken)
[00:44] <MraAlbertina> i mean the graphics card (not fixable, not replaceable)
[00:46] <sarnold> MraAlbertina: here's a guy's blog post about using Xvfb with tightvnc without a display: http://codehunk.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/headless-x-setup-with-debianlenny/
[00:46] <sarnold> MraAlbertina: the important part is probably Xvfb
[00:46] <MraAlbertina> great, sarnold. thank you so much
[00:47] <MraAlbertina> probably this way i might also get rid of webmin and ips3
[00:47] <MraAlbertina> so... less services running
[00:58] <ewook> aaaaaah. brainfreeze. Why do I get awesome ideas so darn late?
[01:24] <BaNzounet> Hey, It look like php is not working "every where" on my server phpmyadmin works fine but script in my personal directory are not render (I see the php code in my browser) Any idea why?
[01:32] <sarnold> BaNzounet: you'll need to configure your server to execute .php files via modcgi and suexec or something similar. (No server administrator will ever allow executing user-owned php files directly via mod_cgi or fastcgi)
[01:34] <BaNzounet> sarnold: may you tell me what I should do/install please?
[01:41] <BaNzounet> Mhum, I found was I was doing wrong Since I reinstaller php I forgot to comment the line in mids-available/php5.conf for userdir
[02:46] <Logos01> Howdy folks. I have a physical box whose GRUB seems to be borked -- I can't boot successfully and there's no difference in behavior between the "Recovery Mode" boot option and regular. What kernel parameters do I need to feed to get into the 'recovery' mode? It's not "1"/"single" like I'm used to -- those aren't working.
[03:41] <the_hydra> hi all
[03:42] <Guest24038> ls
[03:42] <the_hydra> is there any customized ubuntu server that includes all the OpenStack softwares, so I don't need to download more, just the ISO?
[03:43] <Guest24038> sorry, wrong place :/ haha
[03:48] <holstein> the_hydra: i have use these before http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/announcing-openstack-builds
[03:49] <the_hydra> holstein: hm, so it's part of turnkeylinux
[03:49] <holstein> the_hydra: not that im aware of. turnkey make linux appliances based on ubuntu, and they seem to have an openstack one
[03:50] <the_hydra> holstein: i see...i'll check that ASAP...IIRC too, once I see similar solution in suse studio build
[03:50] <holstein> the_hydra: should be an easy installation in any distro
[03:51] <the_hydra> holstein: problem is, I still has 32 bit machines, whereas I check most OpenStack based solutions are x86-64
[03:53] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure is what i would use
[05:07] <gdeeble> Anyone know if using Serial 2 Network is it possible to push the host serial port to the client via telnet using Ser2net?
[05:08] <one> Whats going on here aptitute install postfix is not working
[05:09] <one> Just says 0 newly installed
[05:10] <the_hydra> one: that means you already have one installed
[05:11] <the_hydra> one: and you have the latest version
[05:57] <one> hey
[05:59] <one> postfix requires python nevermind
[06:00] <andol> one: s/requires/recommends/
[06:00] <one> oh?
[06:00] <one> lemme look again
[06:01] <one> andol: its autoselecting python for some reason
[06:01] <andol> one: Well, the default nowdays is to install Recommends by default
[06:01] <andol> one: Tried running (or configuring) apt with --no-install-recommends?
[06:02] <one> andol: I was using aptitude.
[06:03] <andol> one: Aptitude appear to have -R, --without-recommends instead, but otherwise relying on the same configuration.
[06:04] <one> andol: does the configuration file have to be modified by hand?
[06:05] <one> phretor are you off kiltor?
[06:06] <andol> one: Well, if you invoke aptitude with --without-recommends it ought to do the trick at least that once. Otherwise you will want to put the following configuring option either in /etc/apt/apt.conf alt in some file under /etc/apt.conf.d/
[06:06] <andol> APT::Install-Recommends "false";
[06:08] <one> What about aptitude
[06:09] <andol> one: What about it? It reads the same configuration
[06:09] <one> but the syntax is Aptitude::
[06:10] <andol> one: ?
[06:10] <andol> one: If you take a look in the aptitude man page you will see that it even expliclty mentions Apt::Install-Recommends
[06:13] <one> Ok I was just looking at what the file currently has and it spells out Aptitude::
[06:14] <andol> My *guess* is that that would be aptitude specific configuration.
[06:15] <one> andol: but you are right Apt::
[06:15] <one> I am in the internet and there is a virus I am hunting
[06:18] <one> andol: thanks
[06:50] <one> andol: my appreciation
[06:50] <one> well
[07:58] <Guest45348> G morning all Greetz from Pittsburgh  :)-  .. Gonna toss a big Q out n hope someone can intercept it ... I know from the past yrs that in order 2 "jail" users into thier home dir of ssh was done with patches , etc.. Now I hear setting up chmod 4 users to /home/dir became simple..please enlighten ;)  ty
[07:58] <Guest45348> and why cant i change my nick ..lol
[08:00] <Guest45348> hmmm intresting same responce i got off 30,00 sites offering info on the matter , lmao ;)
[08:15] <Guest45348> even with the later ssh supporting chmod of users,,its still a pain in the ass to setup, the only reasonable solution to achieving this is via vsftpd by creating the chmod list to lock users in home dir..is this really the easiest way? cause its not as easy at it appears 2 be.. the permissions are a double standard ??? Grrr time 2 smoke n break
[11:39] <Superdesk_Doruk> türkçe
[11:39] <Superdesk_Doruk> konusabilcegim kimse varmý
[11:44] <turkce> hellp
[11:44] <turkce> i have problem
[11:44] <turkce> dovecot
[11:44] <turkce> not running
[11:45] <turkce> wheil?
[11:58] <RoyK> !ask | turkce
[11:59] <turkce> !ask imap ve pop3 calýsýtýramýyorum
[12:02] <turkce> !ask |turkce imap ve pop3 calýsýtýramýyorum
[14:29] <Gregor3000> hello,
[14:31] <Gregor3000> something that puzzles me. i am using mod_rewrite  along with wordpress plugin that adds .html to each site. now it all works well and i can access the site via menu. but as soon as i use this as http://link/page.html i get the 404?
[14:31] <Gregor3000> so on the one hand i can access the link via menu, but if i copy that link into the browsers line i get 404
[14:33] <Fieldy> yep. it's appending .html to page.html, making it page.html.html. you'll want to write your rewrite rule to not apply to URLs ending in ".html" (don't ask me, I don't know how)
[14:33] <Fieldy> i bet if you look i your error_log you'll see requests for html.html
[14:33] <mardraum> why would you ever want to randomly add .html
[14:34] <Gregor3000> aha ok i see it now.
[14:34] <Gregor3000> it's not just randomly. i am trying to move a static website to wordpress
[14:34] <Gregor3000> and i don't want to lose the links
[15:38] <RoyK> I built the 3.9.0rc2 kernel and tested it, removed it, but still 'update-initramfs -u' tries to build its initrd - any idea where its traces may be? this is on ubuntu raring devel
[15:44] <ikonia> RoyK: doesn't raring ship with 3.8 ?
[15:50] <RoyK> ikonia: as I said, I built 3.9 myself
[15:50] <ikonia> RoyK: yes, but I didn't know if it was from a package update or if you just grabbed it from kernel.org
[15:51] <RoyK> just got it from kernel.org
[15:52] <RoyK> I just don't understand why update-initramfs will keep on trying to build that initrd and not the running kernel
[15:53] <ikonia> hang on, it's which version is it trying ot build init-ramfs for ?
[15:53] <ikonia> the 3.9 kernel, or the 3.8
[15:55] <RoyK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640452/
[15:55] <RoyK> no 3.9 kernel around as far as I can see
[15:55] <RoyK> nothing in /boot
[15:55] <ikonia> RoyK: now that is a surprise, I'd expect it to either a.) build for kernel installed by a package (which yours isn't) or b.) the running kernel
[15:56] <ikonia> RoyK: yours is doing neither
[15:56] <RoyK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640459/
[15:56] <RoyK> that's stracing it
[15:57] <ikonia> interesting it does have a quick look for dpkg
[15:58] <ikonia> I don't see why it jumps to this
[15:58] <ikonia> faccessat(AT_FDCWD, "/boot/initrd.img-3.9.0-rc2", R_OK) = 0
[15:58] <ikonia> what made it select 3.9
[15:59] <RoyK> erm - I just removed that and it still builds for 3.9
[16:00] <RoyK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640466/
[16:09] <RoyK> ikonia: any ideas?
[16:10] <ikonia> RoyK: no, I'm very surprised
[16:10] <RoyK> so am I...
[16:15] <ikonia> RoyK: I don't see any logic in the earlier strace to suggest why it's picking up the 3.9 kernel
[16:16] <RoyK> neither do I
[16:17] <RoyK> line 224: read(3, "3.9.0-rc2\n", 128)
[16:17] <RoyK> but from where?
[16:19] <RoyK> got it
[16:19] <RoyK> in /var/lib/initramfs-tools, there's a file for each kernel's initrd
[16:20] <RoyK> seems it relies on that instead of checking what's really installed
[16:21] <LargePrime_> HEYO!
[16:22] <LargePrime_> I have a weird set of questions
[16:27] <ikonia> RoyK: agreed
[16:27] <ikonia> RoyK: "from where", I see it selecting it, but no reason why
[16:30] <RoyK> ikonia: removing the hash files for the kernels no longer present solved this
[16:30] <ikonia> RoyK: explain
[16:31] <RoyK> ikonia: seems ubuntu creates a hash file for each initrd in /var/lib/initramfs-tools and update-initramfs uses these files to determine which initrd to build. doesn't make sense
[16:31] <ikonia> RoyK: very poor
[16:32] <RoyK> so, after removing the new kernel, I just removed the hash files for those, and bingo, update-initramfs creates a valid initrd
[16:33] <ogra_> RoyK, you want -k ...
[16:34] <RoyK> argh - where is that bug report site? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs contains a small book of stuff, but the link to the real site is there somewhere
[16:34] <ogra_> use ubuntu-bug
[16:34] <ogra_> on the machine having the issue
[16:34] <RoyK> ogra_: no, I don't want -k, I want ubuntu to sort this out correctly, and not use hash files left under /var somewhere to determine which kernels are really installed
[16:35] <ogra_> it cant if you dont name your kernel version properly
[16:35] <ogra_> thats what -k solves since you can force a new version (including the hash)
[16:35] <RoyK> ogra_: It should generate the initrd of the running kernel
[16:35] <ogra_> not if you created a hash for a newer one
[16:35] <ogra_> -u will update the latest
[16:35] <RoyK> I didn't create anything
[16:36] <ogra_> you said above you installed you home brewed -rc2
[16:36] <RoyK> I didn't create a hash
[16:36] <RoyK> like you said
[16:36] <RoyK> Using the hash files instead of the actual kernels for guideline doesn't make sense
[16:37] <ogra_> tell that to debian :)
[16:37] <ogra_> they added the hash "feature"
[16:38] <ogra_> while ubuntu invented initramfs-tools, debian took over maintenance for it about 6 years ago ... we mostly just sync
[16:40] <LargePrime_> I am trying to add a IP tunnel to my server for a few users.  I tried to add OpenVPN, but that failed when i /sbin/modprobe tun resulting in FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.2.13-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[16:41] <patdk-lap> do you have a *real* server?
[16:41] <patdk-lap> cause that sounds like you have an openvz thing
[16:41] <patdk-lap> and you will need to ask your provider
[16:41] <LargePrime_> patdk-lap: is that to me?
[16:42] <patdk-lap> yes
[16:42] <LargePrime> patdk-lap:
[16:42] <LargePrime> it is a reals dedicated server
[16:42] <LargePrime> hosted by ovh
[16:42] <LargePrime> what would i say to my profider?
[16:42] <patdk-lap> well, as ubuntu doesn't supply a 3.2.13-grsec kernel
[16:43] <RoyK> LargePrime: can you pastebin the output of lshw?
[16:44] <LargePrime> RoyK:  i can pipe that to a file right?  care to help me do that?
[16:44] <RoyK> lshw | pastebinit
[16:44] <LargePrime> sorry , my Noob is showing
[16:44] <RoyK> everyone starts out as noobs ;)
[16:45] <RoyK> !pastebinit | LargePrime
[16:45]  * patdk-lap is still a noob
[16:45] <RoyK> patdk-lap: aren't we all? :)
[16:48] <LargePrime> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640589/
[16:49] <LargePrime> RoyK: sorry for delay
[16:51] <patdk-lap> think it's a real server
[16:51] <patdk-lap> guess they just compiled the kernel without tun support
[16:52] <RoyK> looks like a physical machine to me
[16:52] <LargePrime> it is
[16:52] <RoyK> (but why they chose to put the swap partition on the slowest part of the drive, must be up to them)
[16:52] <LargePrime> ?
[16:53] <patdk-lap> 40MB/sec is more than enough for swap :)
[16:53] <RoyK> spinning rust is about 2x faster on the outer rim, meaning the first sectors
[16:53] <patdk-lap> expecially when you don' tuse it :)
[16:53] <RoyK> well, swap is good, but it should be fast. no reason to use the inner sectors for swap
[16:53] <LargePrime> can i fix that?
[16:53] <RoyK> never mind about that
[16:54] <patdk-lap> I hate swap :)
[16:54] <patdk-lap> no matter how fast it is, my server always grinds to a halt when it's used
[16:55] <RoyK> then you're doing things wrong ;)
[16:55] <LargePrime> ok boys
[16:56] <patdk-lap> ya, like giving it swap in the first place :)
[16:56] <RoyK> but if this server is sold to you as an ubuntu server, you should complain
[16:57] <LargePrime> complain how?
[16:57] <LargePrime> I want to sound less Noobish
[16:59] <LargePrime> http://www.sysadminworld.com/2012/how-to-switch-to-the-standard-ubuntu-kernel-on-ovh/
[17:08] <LargePrime> so my options are what?  complain?
[17:09] <Patrickdk> complain you have a non-standard kernel, and it currently, lacks tun support
[17:10] <Patrickdk> could be fixed by adding tun support
[17:10] <Patrickdk> or using a *normal* kernel
[17:14] <jpds> LargePrime: There's not really much you can complain about.
[17:19] <LargePrime> canit i complain about not being able to add openVPN? jpds
[17:21] <LargePrime> or that ssh tunneling is broken
[17:28] <jpds> LargePrime: Well, clearly they want their customers to use their provided kernels.
[17:28] <LargePrime> and?
[17:28] <LargePrime> jpds
[17:31] <jpds> LargePrime: But then it's crippled in the sense that it lacks a modules.dep file.
[17:31] <jpds> And thus can't load any new modules.
[17:36] <LargePrime> jpds: I am confused, are you saying "There's not really much you can complain about." or "it's crippled in the sense that it lacks a modules.dep file."?  Or are those not exact opposites?
[17:37] <LargePrime> or near opposites...
[17:38] <jpds> LargePrime: Well, it might be their intention that you can't use other modules.
[17:39] <LargePrime> but that is still 'complainable' right?
[17:39] <jpds> LargePrime: I mean, Googling 'ovh openvpn' brings a lot of hits.
[17:41] <jpds> LargePrime: http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showpost.php?s=e846d7415c4d87e8a89a8a9a53d7f315&p=14277&postcount=2
[17:43] <jpds> LargePrime: What I'm saying is: you can't complain, if it's by design. :)
[17:44] <LargePrime> I dont understand.  whatever thier designs are, if they sell a ubuntu server that is not a ubuntu server then one may complain, no?
[21:08] <edd_> Guys
[21:08] <edd_> 4
[21:08] <edd_> $20 with your name on it if ya fix something for me :D
[21:08] <edd_> well help me fix it
[21:08] <edd_> No space left on device   <------------------------------------------------ WTF
[21:08] <edd_> as a result i cant login via phpmyadmin or any type of php session
[21:08] <edd_> Local disk space	9.86 GB total, 6.25 GB used
[21:08]  * edd_ shoots self
[21:09] <IdleOne> delete some logs?
[21:09] <IdleOne> and stop using enter like it gives candy :)
[21:09] <edd_> It doesnt give candy wtf :S
[21:09] <edd_> Sorry, now delete some logs#?
[21:09] <edd_> Where are these logs you speak of
[21:09] <IdleOne> /var/log
[21:09] <edd_> Am a noob
[21:10] <edd_> Let me puty in
[21:10] <edd_> Root@unbuntu #
[21:10] <edd_> IdleOne: now what i do :D
[21:11] <edd_> or can this be done via webmin :S if i dont have buttons i just dont know
[21:12] <IdleOne> I don't know webmin but if you can get to /var/log delete some of the logs
[21:12] <edd_> Is it possible to do this via console?
[21:13] <edd_> Fuck the game
[21:13] <edd_> am just gona click shit :D
[21:13] <edd_> the players cant login anyway haha
[21:14] <IdleOne> Please don't swear
[21:14] <IdleOne> Are you even running ubuntu?
[21:14] <edd_> Yeah
[21:14] <edd_> fixed it
[21:14] <edd_> for now
[21:14] <edd_> this is 5th time ive fixed it
[21:15] <edd_> sudo apt-get autoclean