[00:00] <r0tha> you could also try running "sudo pstree -p" and try to find the process name
[00:00] <r0tha> that might help
[00:00] <Tonisius> USERS_JBOSS_TASK qa-ccrcls1sat = (root) NOPASSWD: su - cert-jbosstask
[00:00] <Tonisius> What could possibly be wrong with this line?
[00:00] <riobe> r0tha: Yeah. I right clicked the icon in the launcher and the two options is the program name and unluock from launcher. Right clicking the program name just opens it.
[00:00] <riobe> r0tha: Ooo, that sounds clever. I'll try it.
[00:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> I've got the idea in mind to teach myself colemak typing. is there a way I can switch between keyboard layouts on the fly, like how I use ibus to switch between english, japanese, and chinese?
[00:01] <mariko> I don't know.
[00:02] <riobe> r0tha: It's running under idea.sh, but "which idea" and "which idea.sh" both don't work. Is that still something I can sudo run? (Thanks very much for the help, btw)
[00:02] <riobe> That's a neat command I've never seen before.
[00:02] <riobe> The pstree one
[00:02] <r0tha> oh naw, which will only show the the directory the binary is in
[00:02] <trism> ntzrmtthihu777: add another layout and an indicator should appear to allow you to switch between them
[00:03] <riobe> Ah, ok. But if I can figure out where idea.sh is, I should be able to gksudo it.
[00:03] <AwesomeNewbie> Why can't linux support file endings
[00:03] <r0tha> are you trying to just run it on the command line? or automate something?
[00:03] <AwesomeNewbie> thats so annoying
[00:03] <riobe> r0tha: I need to run it with admin
[00:03] <riobe> r0tha: so it can update itself.
[00:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> trism: that simple? where do I do that
[00:03] <Tonisius> So, anything wrong with that line?
[00:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: what do you mean, file endings?
[00:04] <trism> ntzrmtthihu777: system settings/keyboard/layout settings (at the bottom)
[00:04] <AwesomeNewbie> my problem above
[00:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: I just came on channel, you'll hafta repeat it
[00:05] <AwesomeNewbie> when i right click "new document" in file browser and put in the filename with ending, this only works for some types like .c
[00:05] <AwesomeNewbie> i wrote a .xls
[00:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: you mean like extensions?
[00:05] <AwesomeNewbie> opened it, and created a document for one hour
[00:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> eg .txt, .html, .foo?
[00:06] <jrib> AwesomeNewbie: how did you save it?
[00:06] <AwesomeNewbie> yes
[00:06] <AwesomeNewbie> ending <-> extension
[00:06] <riobe> That's...odd. gksudo idea.sh (I found it in /opt/intellij-idea-ce-bin) just processes for a moment and does nothing visible. sudo idea.sh says command not found.
[00:06] <riobe> I think I did something wrong.
[00:06] <AwesomeNewbie> It's all the same :P
[00:06] <r0tha> riobe: that would be permissions
[00:07] <r0tha> the file needs to be executable so do the following:
[00:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: one, linux does suport that, two, it is not all that important, and three, you can set it up to where the new document option can create blanks of various sorts
[00:07] <r0tha> sudo chmod +x idea.sh
[00:07] <riobe> r0tha: Oh, ok. That makes this trickier.
[00:07] <r0tha> then run sudo ./idea.sh
[00:07] <riobe> Oh, I'll try that.
[00:07] <r0tha> the ./ says "execute this file"
[00:07] <AwesomeNewbie> but i opened the file (it opend with calc, like i want) and then created the document one hour long.
[00:08] <jrib> AwesomeNewbie: I just tried here to do what you said and calc will prompt you when not saving in ODF format (for example if it's a csv file) unless you disabled that feature
[00:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> r0tha: actually it says "in this directory", you cannot execute a file with just its name unless its in your $PATH
[00:08] <AwesomeNewbie> i saved severall times, and at the end closed the document
[00:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: just rename the file with the proper extension
[00:09] <AwesomeNewbie> but now only the last sheet without formats and comments, ... is available, because calc saved it as "Text CSV Format" even though the ending it .xls
[00:09] <AwesomeNewbie> so don't tell me linux cared about the file ending
[00:09] <riobe> r0tha: Success!!!
[00:09] <jrib> AwesomeNewbie: you created an "empty document", correct?
[00:09] <riobe> r0tha: Thanks a TON. lol
[00:10] <AwesomeNewbie> ntzrmtthihu777: what do you mean?
[00:10] <AwesomeNewbie> jrib: yes
[00:10] <r0tha> riobe: no worries, exactly one year ago i didn't know my way around bash/terminal
[00:10] <r0tha> you'll pick it up quick
[00:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: I can, instead of empty document, create from that menu quite alot
[00:10] <jrib> AwesomeNewbie: this just creates a blank file.  It doesn't create a blank xls file.  If you want to have the ability to create a blank xls file, you can create a blank xls file and save it to ~/Templates
[00:11] <riobe> r0tha: It seems pretty easy when you know what is supposed to happen and what your options are. I've been in Linux for like a week at this point, so I haven't learned too much ye.t
[00:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: blank pygtk, html, all sorts of stuff
[00:11] <AwesomeNewbie> i don't care
[00:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: exactly what jrib said. create a blank template file, call it Blank XLS.xls, and save it in that locatioin
[00:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: then, when you do the right-click create new, the new options will show up there
[00:12] <AwesomeNewbie> if i make a empty file .xls ending, it has to be .xls like it's working with .cpp, .html, and with all files on windows
[00:12] <huedude> guise what the best way to compress files? i mean like, compress 6gbs to 100mbs, hardcore style?
[00:12] <jrib> AwesomeNewbie: .cpp and .html are just text files.  .xls are not
[00:12] <mJayk> huedude: with lots of loss :P
[00:13] <mJayk> huedude: srsly though it depends upon the file type when you want that much compression
[00:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: you created a blank text file and named it xls, that is your problem.
[00:13] <huedude> mJayk: what u mean?
[00:13] <huedude> mJayk: its a .iso file
[00:13] <AwesomeNewbie> but why the hell can the damn calc think, that i want to save my table as a "Text CSV" ???
[00:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> !language | AwesomeNewbie
[00:13] <jrib> AwesomeNewbie: because that's what it was when you opened it.  And by default it warns you when saving if you will lose information because of your format
[00:13] <mJayk> huedude: well the algorithm used to compress say a sound file will be alot different to the one used to compress say a hudge database file
[00:14] <mJayk> huedude: if you want that sort of compression you need to find something that is very specific for your file type
[00:14] <cronus> AwesomeNewbie, i tried to recreate but i couldn't. libreoffice asked me the filetype on startup and when i selected excel it popped an error.
[00:14] <AwesomeNewbie> but it always annoys me when saving .xls so i disabled this
[00:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: anyways, all you need to do is open calc, save a blank file as Blank XLS.xls in ~/Templates, or csv as Blank CSV.csv, then you can create that file-type on the fly.
[00:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: and don't blame linux based on your error. you cannot simply transform a txt file into xls
[00:16] <AwesomeNewbie> that don't brings me back one hour of working!
[00:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: again, no one to blame but yourself.
[00:17] <AwesomeNewbie> the competitor can!!!!
[00:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> nope.
[00:17] <puff> I bought an hp photosmart 6520.  Printing works fine, it doesn't show up as a scanner.  Other photosmarts are on the ubuntu hardware support list (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersHp) but not the 6520.  The 6520 is on the SANE project's support list (http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html) but only for SCSI.  Is there any hope of getting this working or am I just doomed to wait until SAN USB support 
[00:17] <puff> done??
[00:17] <huedude> mJayk: im compressing with 7zip lets see how it goes lol
[00:17] <FloodBot1> puff: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <mJayk> huedude: lemme know :)
[00:18] <AwesomeNewbie> ntzrmtthihu777: in windows i just click new text file. changes the .txt do .doc, .xls or whatever and everything works
[00:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> huedude: its a .iso file you are trying to compress
[00:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: then go crying back to bill gates.
[00:18] <huedude> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[00:19] <AwesomeNewbie> no
[00:19] <AwesomeNewbie> because everything else is better here!
[00:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: do as we said, and this will be just the same, better eve.
[00:20] <bekks> AwesomeNewbie: File extensions are meaningless. You have to specify the file format you want to be stored in your file, whatever its filename is.
[00:20] <AwesomeNewbie> and i also now that it's my fault, but it's anyway annoying!
[00:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> huedude: if you convert the iso to .bin and then ecm compress it you should get a very good compression.
[00:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> AwesomeNewbie: do as jrib and I said and the annoyance will be gone.
[00:21] <chrisoei> /join #javascript
[00:21] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: .iso is an .bin with a distinct header. 99% of the data in both files are identical.
[00:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: yes, but the bin format can be ecm compressed, iso cannot. huge compression, too.
[00:22] <huedude> ntzrmtthihu777: how  from .iso to .bin and then ecm?
[00:22] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: thats not accurate
[00:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> emulation sites use it to store isos, and rar or 7z on top of that to save server space and download bandwidth
[00:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: my statement or the compression method
[00:23] <Ben64> statement
[00:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> huedude: not sure off hand, maybe acetoneiso can do it, lemme check.
[00:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: I attempted to icm a win7ult iso I have, no dice
[00:23] <huedude> ntzrmtthihu777: im on ubuntu
[00:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> huedude: these tools are ubuntu ones :P
[00:24] <Kalebtbacon> Ok i Reintalled but my Cresidentials are till not working
[00:24] <huedude> kk :P
[00:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: then explain why its not accurate instead of just saying it is.
[00:25] <cronus> puff, according to http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/photosmart/photosmart_6520_series.html it should work with hplip 3.12.9
[00:25] <huedude> ntzrmtthihu777: so.. does acetoneiso work? im installing it btw
[00:26] <Ben64> for almost all circumstances, you cannot get "huge compression" from an iso
[00:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: thats why I said change it to bin first.
[00:26] <Ben64> of course it depends what it is, if its a cd image of text, yeah it'll compress
[00:26] <Ben64> bin = iso
[00:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> bin != iso
[00:27] <Ben64> they're almost identical
[00:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: and that almost is what makes all the difference
[00:27] <huedude> its a .iso of a game
[00:27] <Ben64> you can convert between them easily, because they're the same
[00:27] <huedude> pro evolution soccer 13
[00:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> huedude: where did you get it
[00:27] <huedude> torrentleech.org why?
[00:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> huedude: is it a pc game/psx/what?
[00:28] <Ben64> huedude: we can't help you with piracy
[00:28] <huedude> pc game
[00:28] <huedude> Ben64: compressing is piracy :O
[00:28] <Ben64> downloading a game from a torrent site is, don't be dumb
[00:28] <puff> cronus: Yeah, but "sudo hp-setup" and tried USB/wireless setup, hp-setup doesn't see it ("error: No devices found on bus: usb"), even though "sudo lsusb" does show: Bus 001 Device 125: ID 03f0:af11 Hewlett-Packard
[00:29] <puff> cronus: Ahm, hm... I have 3.12.2.  Hm.
[00:30] <arlgbr> Hello all! I need a little help. I've just installed the XUbuntu 12.10, but I need to pass the option video=LVDS-1:d in my kernel line (I have a HDMI monitor). However, I'm not able to get the GRUB screen, it seems be passing through it driving me with no screen at all. The question: How can I get the GRUB screen?
[00:30] <Ben64> arlgbr: keep hitting shift when the computer is booting up
[00:30] <Ben64> arlgbr: or, if you have ubuntu tweak tool, you can set grub on a delay
[00:31] <arlgbr> Ben64, I'm gonna try it. Wait a minute :-)
[00:31] <ElVerma> wondering if anyone is seeing the apport gpu hang problem on Dell XPS13 with 12.10...I'm flooded with error messages!
[00:34] <arlgbr> Ben64, THANK YOU SO MUCH :-)))
[00:34] <cronus> puff, you probably have to find a way to compile the newest version from source or preferably find a trusted ppa.
[00:34] <puff> cronus: Yeah, going to do some googlnig.
[00:34] <arlgbr> It worked like a charm.
[00:34] <Ben64> arlgbr: no problem
[00:35] <arlgbr> Ben64, a last one: what the default version of GRU on 12.10?
[00:36] <Ben64> !info grub-pc
[00:36] <arlgbr> ops, GRUB
[00:36] <Ben64> :)
[00:37] <cronus> puff, checkout http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/downloads.html also. it has an automatic installer you can try
[00:37] <arlgbr> nice. SOrry for the dumb questions, I'm a RedHat user :-)
[00:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> arlgbr: 1.99, that is grub2
[00:37] <arlgbr> Ben64, ntzrmtthihu777, thanks for the info!
[00:38] <arlgbr> Cheers!
[00:39] <ewook> Aaand a good evening. Got a fun question. I got a usb-modem plugged in working.. but I'd like to somehow catch the tty output and parse it.. any pointers how?
[00:40] <bekks> ewook: Use minicom, configure a logfile, parse it
[00:41] <ewook> bekks: was thinking about that.. but I'd like to use a mysql backend. so modding http://aplawrence.com/BGarlock/logger.html could work (base the script on perl).
[00:42] <ewook> bekks: using first minicom and then perl adds to much that could go wrong..
[00:42] <bekks> ewook: Sounds a bit weird. you want to store the output of a modem in a mysql db?
[00:42] <ewook> bekks: wanna log caller id's.
[00:43] <bekks> ewook: Then parse the file, store the caller ids into a file, etc.
[00:43] <ewook> bekks: but wouldn't that require me to leave minicom running?
[00:43] <ewook> and if it died, so does the logging.
[00:43] <bekks> ewook: Sure.
[00:44] <ewook> true, I would gain access to the modem straight on.
[00:44] <bekks> ewook: Everything else I could imagine is a small app(to be coded) that parses the tty output and creates that file/stores the caller ids.
[00:46] <ewook> bekks: yepp. that's what I think I'd be going for since access to the pi in this case I'd be using will not have ssh running on it :)
[00:46] <bekks> ewook: screen is able to keep minicom running when the ssh session is closed
[00:49] <mote> good morning!
[00:53] <jeditransistor> Ubuntu 12.04. Can't play DRM videos in browser (like google play videos that I have purchased). Installed HAL. There is no .adobe cache to clear. What do?
[00:53] <ewook> bekks: true :).
[00:55] <ClientAlive> I'm stuck in a loop with my installation. Right after finishing the partitioning step, I'm given a message that the ESP could not be mounted and asked to choose retrun to the partitioner or move ahead. The next step if I move ahead is to install the base system. Because of the design I'm trying to implemnt, I realize I may have to manually install the bootloader after the rest of installation is done. That is fine with me and is what I had
[00:55] <ClientAlive> planned to do. How can I get past this problem and complete the installation so I can go back and install the bootloader later??
[00:56] <ClientAlive> Partitioning info can be seen here: http://ideone.com/V37BYt
[00:56] <ClientAlive> I always misspell return like that, sorry
[00:58] <ClientAlive> oh, and if I'm try to do the next step, the base system installation, it gives me a message that it depends on another step to be done first (namely the partitioning). So I'm in a catch 22 where I just go around in a circle.
[00:59] <ClientAlive> does ubuntu desktop have a tarball like gentoo does? Maybe I can get this install done that way if they have it.
[01:01] <onryo> Since gcc is part of Ubuntu I thought I would ask here. I started with an Amiga 500 then moved on to RedHat back in the early 90s. Never owned a Windows machine. Boss just asked to to port a program I wrote in C to his Windows 7. Its a little simple program. OK...now my question. What the heck should I use for is DE? He needs a GUI (retard) and I only know GTK and QT ?
[01:02] <AphelionZ> re: "package is kept back" - is there a good source of information on why a particular package might be kept back by apt?
[01:03] <r0tha> AphelionZ: it could use a library which is terribly unstable in the new version
[01:03] <onryo> Anybody that actually programs here? I mean gcc and python, bash and god knows what else are all part of Ubuntu.... I am sure some of use come from the Windows world?
[01:03] <Ben64> onryo: your question does not seem like an ubuntu one, maybe try ##windows?
[01:04] <AphelionZ> r0tha: yeah, right on. I figured it was probably "for the best" but was just curious
[01:04] <wow050> I deleted my linux partition and went to reboot and got the grub rescue. I tried booting Ubuntu from a USB and it flashes like its being used but goes straight back to grub rescue.
[01:04] <wow050> Any ideas>
[01:05] <dr_willis> jsounds like the usb is not booting correctly wow050
[01:05] <onryo> I don't know the first thing about Windows. Never ever had a windows distro. Like I said I started with ASM in my Amiga 500 then in the early 90s moved on to RedHat then Debian and have an Ubuntu machine at work.
[01:05] <dr_willis> i still miss some of the features the Amiga OS had.
[01:05] <jrib> onryo: right but this channel is for help with ubuntu.  You seem to want help with programming for windows, so try ##windows
[01:05] <p_tango> hi everyone... new here. its interesting , but hard to use
[01:06] <onryo> jrib you dont code I can hear
[01:06] <wow050> Anyone ?
[01:07] <wow050> Guess not. Ill try on Ubuntu forums.
[01:08] <onryo> dr_willis I do have the flash of nostalgia at times too. Getting the demo's to fix a 1.4 MB disk with music and ray tracing (mirror balls over a checker board etc) all i ASM for that 7.5 MHz cpu. Was fun back then.
[01:08] <ClientAlive> Here is the current output of "mount" if it helps any. I have to take a friend and her kid to the emergency room but I'll be back soon. http://ideone.com/ex3S1d
[01:09] <ClientAlive> any help appreciated. thanks.
[01:11] <we6jbo> Hi all
[01:12] <we6jbo> I'm a substitute network systems technician
[01:12] <onryo> Going to head over to irc.oftc.net where ppl actually develop GNU/Linux and ask people who are contributing talent. - Good bye and thx for all the fish.
[01:14] <DarthEaron>  I'm at hooters and I just left chuckle cheese... Tonight is awesome
[01:24] <MTW> hi.
[01:25] <efuse> hi!
[01:26] <efuse> upgrading to 12.10
[01:26] <efuse> it is taking absolutely forever
[01:26] <efuse> considering suicide
[01:28] <Toa> I just recently reinstalled (coming from LMDE) and now my previous home directory (under a different user name) is gone.  The format option was not enabled, and it is a btrfs file system (separate home partition).  The amount of free space listed is the same as it was, as if the data still exists, but I cannot find it. Any suggestions?
[01:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Toa: you may not have permission to view it, try doing it as sudo
[01:30] <efuse> how long do upgrades typically take?
[01:30] <efuse> this has been going on for quite a while
[01:30] <wesley_n> hello
[01:31] <Toa> ntzrmtthihu777: Good guess, but I tried that. ls -A as root only shows me my home directory.
[01:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Toa: when you re-installed, did you tell it to use the /home partition? I never got that to work right; I always did not use it on re-install and then edited the fstab to get it to automount, never had an issue doing it that way. now, on the other hand, using the installers use this partition option, I never got it to work. sorry to say, but you may be scragged :(
[01:31] <Coded1> anyone have problems with 13.04 and android phones?  When I plug in my nexus 4 it gets mounted and all is going well, when I enable tethering it disconnects on me
[01:32] <k1l_> efuse: depends on system speed and internet speed. but takes some time is not uncommon
[01:32] <wesley_n> Hello everyone i am new to linux and i am having trouble getting the soundcard to work
[01:32] <Toa> ntzrmtthihu777: What problems did you have?
[01:32] <BaNzounet> Hey, I've a problem with PHP/APACHE. I've phpmyadmin working but script in my ~username are not being render
[01:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> efuse: shouln't have done that, my friend. not only have I never had a good in-install upgrade experience, but quantal gave me hell as well
[01:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Toa: the same one you are using, no home folder :(
[01:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> s/using/having
[01:34] <James_Epp> How should I go about making a striped raid in ubuntu 12.10 w/ gnome-shell? Assume two 40GB (VBOX)
[01:35] <echoee> hi guys, can i get some help with the cow powered apt?
[01:36] <echoee> currently, this is my lsb-release
[01:36] <Toa> ntzrmtthihu777: so I should just reinstall and format again?  The /home directory seems to work, despite having 100GB ghost data on it.  So much for btrfs.  The features it had seemed nice.  I checked in fdisk and it reports the proper sizes.
[01:36] <echoee> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[01:36] <echoee> DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.10
[01:36] <echoee> DISTRIB_CODENAME=maverick
[01:36] <echoee> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.10"
[01:36] <FloodBot1> echoee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36] <k1l_> !eol | echoee
[01:37] <echoee> thanks ubottu
[01:37] <k1l_> echoee: its out of support. read the message from the bot and the 2 links to know why and what is a solution to upgrade
[01:37] <k1l_> echoee: but in your case i would suggest a new install since you need all upgrades untill you have one that is supported
[01:37] <James_Epp> I remember when maverick came out and I was like "ermagurd linuxxxxx" meh. I'm still a n00b
[01:38] <Toa> echoee: There are tools available to help you back up your data first
[01:39] <echoee> thank k1l_, I cant really upgrade the server, as it's a live server, running some sensitive stuff
[01:39] <James_Epp> clonezilla is pretty good for imaging IMHO.
[01:39] <James_Epp> Is it a radio station or something?
[01:39] <k1l_> echoee: if its sensitive i would consider putting it onto a supported LTS base.
[01:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> Toa: maybe. if its alot of texts you may be able to grep them outta the node
[01:40] <k1l_> since 10.10 got security problems that a 8year old can rush in
[01:43] <cronus> echoee, cow powered as in apt-get moo ?
[01:44] <echoee> yes, apt-get moo
[01:44] <echoee> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick multiverse deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick multiverse
[01:44] <echoee> what I had already
[01:44] <echoee> did all the stuff that doco recommended
[01:44] <echoee> not sure what else i am missing
[01:45] <echoee> (12:39:52 PM) k1l_: echoee: if its sensitive i would consider putting it onto a supported LTS base. <--- in the process of doing that
[01:45] <echoee> I am moving it cloud-base!
[01:45] <IdleOne> echoee: focus on the migration. 10.10 is no longer supported and not worth the time wasted.
[01:45] <echoee> essentially, i need to get git installed, push all my code onto a git trunk, does the develop/master thingy
[01:46] <echoee> like i said, it runs sensitive stuff, and before I can upgrade this server, I need to get another server running concurrently, test it and all, etc
[01:46] <echoee> not really an option for me to just "upgrade" it without any backups
[01:46] <echoee> *backup options
[01:47] <Thete> What are you trying to do?
[01:47] <echoee> installing git
[01:47] <Thete> That's all?
[01:47] <echoee> yes
[01:47] <Thete> git isn't in 10.10?
[01:48] <echoee> well, i changed my deb to old-releases, but I got a 403 when running update
[01:48] <echoee> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted
[01:48] <echoee> deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted
[01:48] <echoee> what I have currently, with many more
[01:48] <Thete> should be able to just download the current package source manually and rebuild
[01:51] <Thete> although, it looks like it has a few dependencies, if it's not in the maverick apt you might have to just build it the old fashioned way
[01:51] <cronus> echoee, work fine here with same lines. just getting hits because there are no updates
[01:55] <BT_5> e ai
[01:55] <BT_5> alguém on
[02:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> !pt | BT_5
[02:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> BT_5: o use #aircrack por Backtrack
[02:04] <mylezzz> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/68861/external-drive-not-being-recognized
[02:06] <civirok> Yo.
[02:07] <echoee> so, after updating all my deps, clean and update, this is what I get when running update
[02:07] <echoee> Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  403  Forbidden
[02:08] <echoee> not sure what else I can do from here, asking best friend (Google) atm
[02:11] <cronus> echoee, try wget to download that file. i tried it and it seems fine from here. ie no errors and normal 1.8 size download
[02:12] <echoee> hmmm, i wonder if it's a firewall thing?
[02:12] <ClientAlive> can someone tell me if any of these: http://ideone.com/wsAD4G  <- packages are needed by the system if I'm not running a web server on it??
[02:12] <ClientAlive> please?
[02:12] <cronus> echoee, it could be a proxy or an apt-cacher as well
[02:13] <echoee> nah, no proxy
[02:14] <ClientAlive> I am running eclipse though and I know it has some kind of web server stuff on it. I need to keep anything related to eclipse.
[02:14] <echoee> where can I put the packages.gz?
[02:14] <mylezzz> I have a 3TB external hard drive (USB 3.0) that does not seem to be recognized when I plug it in. It works fine under Windows (both 7 and 8).
[02:14] <mylezzz> It is using a GPT partition table and is formatted as NTFS.
[02:14] <mylezzz> When I plug it in, the light flashes on the drive but it doesn't show up under devices, if I run fdisk or gdisk they just seem to freeze. Any ideas?
[02:15] <cronus> echoee, did you manage to download it?
[02:18] <echoee> yes
[02:18] <echoee> i can wget it
[02:18] <hecsa> mylezzz: what's the output of a dmesg command?
[02:19] <hecsa> mylezzz: do you see something related to the external disk you are talking abount?
[02:19] <mylezzz> yeah, on here is the output: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/68861/external-drive-not-being-recognized
[02:19] <mylezzz> thanks for responding btw :)
[02:20] <mylezzz> I get alot of "xHCI xhci_drop_endpoint called with disabled ep "
[02:20] <hecsa> ,-)
[02:21] <cronus> echoee, then there is a problem with apt configuration. are you certain that you are not using a proxy for apt?
[02:23] <echoee> pretty sure
[02:23] <echoee> that I am not using proxy
[02:23] <xangua> hi there, i recently got a joystick with vibration support, but it doesn't vibrate on ubuntu, how can i enable it or foce it if that is posible¿ thanks
[02:23] <echoee> is there a way to find out where hte setting is?
[02:23] <hecsa> mylezzz: what happens when you disconnect and reconnect it to your computer? Does your drive have some drivers for Win? I'm asking this because I know about some external disks that use some strange drivers to encrypt them, and they only work with Win....they are some tricks...
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> mylezzz, Have you checked the fragmentation as of late, I assume a a gpt ntfs gets fragmented, if it gets fragmented enough ubuntu will not read it.
[02:24] <echoee> LKDJFLSKDJFLKSDJLFKJSDLKFJDLJSFLKSDFJLSDJFKL - the host provider SNUCK IT IN
[02:24] <Kow> mylezzz: by any chance is it a wd passport drive?
[02:25] <hecsa> Exactly! passport drive was the one I was fighting against
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> mylezzz, I would look at it with gparted and anyerror messages there as well.
[02:25] <echoee> alright, I am fetching packages now, thanks heap cronus
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> not sure if gparted reads a gpt though
[02:26] <mylezzz> hecsa: when I disconnect and reconnect it just does the same thing, it doesn't find it and I get those messages if I use dmesg. No drivers for win7, just plug in and play nad its not encrypted in any way.
[02:26] <cronus> echoee, great news. good luck with the migration!
[02:26] <echoee> thanks
[02:26] <echoee> that was so disturbing
[02:26] <nullx> heya, can anyone tell me of a good utility to ghost a windows partition under linux (ubuntu)?
[02:26] <echoee> all we asked was a clean install (many years back)
[02:26] <hecsa> nullx: ghostzilla
[02:26] <echoee> hired VPS
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> nullx, I use clonezilla for images, saves the mbr as well.
[02:27] <nullx> hecsa: checking it out
[02:27] <nullx> yeah
[02:27] <echoee> any how, many thanks for your help
[02:27] <nullx> no package for that, right?
[02:27] <mylezzz> wilee-nilee: I haen't checked fragmentation but it shouldn't be fragmented, nothing is ever deleted, the collection of files on it just keeps growing one after another but I could try this if you think it may work?
[02:27] <cronus> echoee, np
[02:27] <hecsa> sorry, clonezilla
[02:27] <nullx> I will google
[02:27] <nullx> yeah =)
[02:27] <nullx> I only see live cd options if I'm not mistaken for that
[02:27] <mylezzz> Kow: Its not a WD Passport drive, just a Hitachi 3TB drive in an external case
[02:27] <hecsa> nullx: clonezilla :) or just dd
[02:28] <nullx> dd lol
[02:28] <nullx> =/
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> mylezzz, I'm not real up on gpt, however we see people here and at the ubuntu forums often having a read problem because of a defrag needed or a chkdsk.
[02:28] <hecsa> dd if=<the drive> of=<the file> bs=<the block size of the FS>
[02:28] <mylezzz> wilee-nilee: If I open gparted it just says scanning disks and scans forever, it never stops...
[02:28] <nullx> hecsa - heh no I know I just would like to compress
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> mylezzz, There again I'm not sure on gparted in relation to gpt.
[02:30] <Kow> there exists a bug with intel usb3 support in kernel versions <= 3.6 which results in usb3 not working as intended
[02:30] <Kow> the only solution is to use a newer kernel, recommended 3.8.4
[02:30] <hecsa> mylezzz: which kernel do you use?
[02:30] <mylezzz> wilee-nilee: Also if I run fdisk or gdisk it shows my first 2 drives and right before its about to print the details of the external drive it just stops and sits there, only way to stop it is to close terminal
[02:30] <nullx> well thanks guys I'm gonna try it now
[02:30] <nullx> this is for local hdds right? clonezilla
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> mylezzz, I just had a 2 terrabyte usb loose file permissions in windows, not exactly related, but sometimes you just have to knock out variables.
[02:31] <mylezzz> hecsa: Im not sure, how do I check?
[02:31] <Kow> mylezzz: open up a terminal and type "uname -a"
[02:31] <mylezzz> wilee-nilee: yeah everything is trial and error haha
[02:32] <mylezzz> "Linux Myles-Elementary 3.2.0-39-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Thu Feb 28 00:28:53 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[02:32] <nullx> Is there any GUI tools like clonezilla?
[02:32] <mylezzz> so 3.2.0 I guess?
[02:32] <xangua> so i got a joystick with vibration/rumble support but it doesn't vibrate on ubuntu, can i enable this somehow¿
[02:33] <nullx> hum
[02:33] <nullx> I may be better off with acronis live.. this is not easy to work with
[02:34] <nullx> thanks though
[02:34] <hecsa> mylezzz: it's a bit outdated....is there any reason to have that version?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> nullx, Macrium the free one will ghost with access if mounted.
[02:34] <nullx> Macrium?
[02:34] <nullx> checking it out
[02:35] <Kow> mylezzz: well you can try using the ubuntu 3.8.4 kernel but im not sure it will work right with elementary OS.
[02:35] <mylezzz> hecsa: No reason, I'm new to linux but I was trying elementary OS beta, I really like it, the only issue left is my drive not showing up. Is it possible to update the kernel?
[02:35] <Kow> linux-headers-3.8.4-030804-generic_3.8.4-030804.201303201832_amd64.deb
[02:35] <Kow> oops
[02:35] <Kow> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.8.4-raring/
[02:36] <mylezzz> Kow: What are the potential downsides of updating the kernel?
[02:36] <Kow> mylezzz: elementary OS not booting.
[02:36] <nullx> wilee-nilee: yeah I just wanna run it from ubuntu though, not have to reboot into it..
[02:36] <nullx> hmrm
[02:36] <mylezzz> Kow: Haha fantastic, is there a way to return to the old kernel if it doesnt work?
[02:36] <waspinator> I'm having trouble connecting to my works vpn using ubuntu. It works out of the box on windows 7 and osx. It just says it failed to connect without any error
[02:36] <Kow> mylezzz: yes i believe if you hold shift during startup you can select the old kernel
[02:37] <Kow> mylezzz: install all debs that end in _amd64.deb and also the one that ends in _all.deb
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> nullx, Not sure if mountable in linux, I doubt it, you could just dd it, but grub will pickup the boot stuff, it can be problematic if on the same HD as original.
[02:37] <Kow> command "dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb ..."
[02:37] <nullx> wille-nilee: nah, seperate entirely
[02:38] <mylezzz> Kow: Ok so install of them using that command, then reboot and try it?
[02:38] <Kow> yep
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> nullx, Is the original working, and what is it you need?
[02:38] <nullx> willee-nille: ubuntu on one ssd, windows on the other ssd.. and I have a storage drive to store the ghost image on
[02:38] <mylezzz> Kow: Just run that command from the terminal in the OS now or do I need to get out of the GUI?
[02:39] <nullx> wille-nille: I use both regularly.. like, if I'm doing dev work I might go on ubuntu, if I'm gaming I might go on windows.  I want to image the windows one and just have a copy just-in-case.
[02:39] <Kow> mylezzz: you can do it now. however, before you do it.. i would reboot and make sure when you hold down the SHIFT key you get options to select which kernel
[02:39] <Kow> only then would i install those new debs
[02:39] <nullx> I think I have an old acronis backup cd somewhere, but I think it's more practical to do it over a working install
[02:40] <mylezzz> Kow: ok I'll check now, thanks for the help. I really appreciate it, hard to find decent help these days. Speak to you soon.
[02:40] <mylezzz> wilee-nilee & hecsa, same to you both. thanks.
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> nullx, Personally I have all the stuff I want to preserve beyond the OS's I have that on externals, and images of the 5 OS's on the ssd in my setup, hardly nothing but the OS on the main internal HD
[02:41] <hecsa> mylezzz: you're welcome! I hope you have fun using GNU/Linux!
[02:41] <nullx> wille-nilee: even so, reinstalling is a pain in the ass, ghosting is awesome in comparison IMO
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> nullx, Isn't ghosting basically a clone?
[02:42] <nullx> yes
[02:43] <nullx> including mbr basicly
[02:43] <nullx> anyway I hink I got partimage to work successfully
[02:43] <nullx> and if it didn't work, so be it.. I'll just reinstall in the end
[02:44] <gr1m> heeello
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> nullx, Well I just use the windows backup for clones and clonezilla for the linux installs, but I do not need access to them, and all are at the most 50 gigs.
[02:44] <nullx> windows backup?
[02:44] <Logos01> Howdy folks. I have a physical box whose GRUB seems to be borked -- I can't boot successfully and there's no difference in behavior between the "Recovery Mode" boot option and regular. What kernel parameters do I need to feed to get into the 'recovery' mode? It's not "1"/"single" like I'm used to -- those aren't working.
[02:45] <nullx> hm, why am I too stubborn to have thought of that
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> nullx, every ms OS since XP has a cloner.
[02:45] <xangua> so i got a joystick with vibration/rumble support but it doesn't vibrate on ubuntu, can i enable this somehow¿
[02:45] <nullx> wilee-nilee: anyhow, thanks for the help.. I think partimage will work fine in the end though
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> cool
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[02:46] <FloodBot1> gr1m: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> Logos01, You can reload grub from a live cd, or get supergrub to boot in and reload from the terminal.
[02:46] <Logos01> wilee-nilee: GRUB loads fine.
[02:47] <Logos01> It's the boot that's borked.
[02:47] <gr1m> lololololo
[02:47] <Logos01> What I need are the kernel parameters necessary to boot into recovery mode because my grub menu entries are identical.
[02:47] <mylezzz> Kow: Holding shift didn't seem to do anything but is it "Previous linux versions" im looking for?
[02:47] <gr1m> trololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololov
[02:47] <mylezzz> Kow: It's one of the options in the bootmenu
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> Logos01, Lol grub is the boot, you description suggests a broken grub. Seing it does not mean it is working.
[02:48] <Logos01> wilee-nilee: GRUB2 is the bootloader yes.
[02:48] <Kow> mylezzz: yes
[02:48] <Logos01> As I stated, there is no difference in the behavior/configuration of the two options -- "regular" boot and "recovery mode" boot.
[02:48] <mylezzz> Kow: ok great, will try this now then. thanks.
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Logos01, Here we call grub2 grub this is ubuntu grub2 is on every supported release.
[02:48]  * Logos01 sighs
[02:49] <Logos01> There's a difference between 1.98 -- the original GRUB2 push -- and GRUB 2.x
[02:49] <Logos01> But to be precise this is a 12.04.2 amd64 box
[02:49] <Logos01> If you don't know how to help me, that's okay, please just say so.
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> Logos01, I think in your need to prove your knowledge you are ignoring obvious facts and now you are be offensive, lol welcome to my ignore list, and by the way I was one of the top helpers on grub on the ubuntu forums
[02:51] <Logos01> Once again this channel proves its reputation well-deserved. Awesome.
[02:57] <cronus> Logos ro recovery nomodeset
[02:58] <cronus> Logos01 ^^
[02:58] <dell> Logos01, I have just joined, can you explain what is the problem?
[02:58] <mylezzz> Kow: I don't think it worked very well, would you take a look? "http://paste.ubuntu.com/5638971/"
[03:00] <Logos01> dell: tl;dr version -- my machine isn't booting normally and somehow my GRUB configs aren't right -- the behavior/entry for recovery is the same as normal.
[03:00] <Logos01> I was after the kernel line options to boot successfully into eithe recovery mode or single-user mode.
[03:00] <SamuraiAlba> I have an issue with Ubuntu
[03:00] <SamuraiAlba> How can I convert a WUBI install to a true install?
[03:01] <SamuraiAlba> Is there a way, and if not, what can I do to ensure my windows install remains intact with a true install?
[03:01] <dell> Do you have liveusb
[03:02] <SamuraiAlba> dell, yes.  I also have a live DVD
[03:02] <Logos01> So "ro nomodeset recovery" doesn't cut it either.
[03:02] <Logos01> Phenomenal.
[03:03] <dell> Ok boot using liveusb, mount your ubuntu drive and issue grub-install --root-directory=/dir/of/ubuntu /dev/sda
[03:04] <dell> You could also issue update-grub if you are inside a chrooted environment of ubuntu too.
[03:04] <SamuraiAlba> Will that preserve the integrity of my Win 8 Pro x64 installation?
[03:04] <dell> Logos01, have you written any manual grub configuration on /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[03:05] <SamuraiAlba> I also have 2 drives in my laptop, a Corsair Force GT 120 as dev/sda, and a 750GB spinner as dev/sdb
[03:05] <disPlay> hi, is anyone finding the chromium build that is in the repositories a bit sketchy when watching some movies?
[03:05] <dell> Logos01, or did you directly modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:06] <Logos01> dell: I did not.
[03:07] <cronus> SamuraiAlba, there is a nice guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi if you want to check it out.
[03:07] <mylezzz> Kow: does it look bad?
[03:07] <dell> Logos01: That means grub is loading at boot, only ubuntu would not load right?
[03:08] <dell> Logos01: What configuration did you make during your last boot, if you remember?
[03:09] <hanasaki> what will allow the cpu to chagne speeds .. ? slow on idle and faster on high use?   right now the cpu runs at full speed all the time
[03:10] <SamuraiAlba> Chronus, I greatly appreciate that link.  Thank you
[03:10] <mylezzz> hecsa: You still on here?
[03:10] <hecsa> mylezzz: yeap...a bit sleepy, but alive :D
[03:10] <dell> hanasaki: Do you have discrete graphics card?
[03:11] <hanasaki> nope.. amd chips on the mobo
[03:11] <mylezzz> hecsa: Haha, i tried updating the Kernel but this happened, would you take a look for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5638971/
[03:11] <hecsa> mylezzz: going there
[03:12] <hanasaki> dell why
[03:12] <dell> hanasaki: Try this command as root "echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch". Does it slow down the cpu?
[03:12] <hanasaki> cat: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: No such file or directory
[03:12] <dell> hanasaki: You have amd graphics card?
[03:13] <hanasaki> no - amd chips on the mobo
[03:13] <dell> hanasaki: did you go to root using "sudo su -" first, before executing above command. In normal usermode that file does not appear
[03:14] <hanasaki>  VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780 [Radeon HD 3200]
[03:14] <hanasaki> dell yes
[03:14] <dell> hanasaki: Ok sorry i though most would be intel graphics cards.
[03:14] <Logos01> dell: GRUB itself is loading yes. But it fails to mount my NFS mount and when I try to either skip or manually mount it hangs indefinitely at that point.
[03:15] <hanasaki> works fine.. just runs full throttle all the time
[03:15] <Logos01> dell: Only response is to perform ctrl+alt+delete to reboot, and this behavior is the same for both boot options.
[03:15] <hecsa> mylezzz: do you own a broadcom network card?
[03:15] <dell> Logos01: did you mean NFS or NTFS?
[03:15] <Logos01> NFS
[03:15] <mylezzz> hecsa: Yes
[03:15] <hecsa> ops...
[03:15] <Logos01> I have a local mirror of the Ubuntu repository and all of my local net machines mount it at boot time.
[03:16] <Logos01> (as NFS share)
[03:16] <hecsa> mylezzz: check (or paste there, in paste.ubuntu.com) the /var/lib/dkms/bcmwl/6.20.155.1+bdcom/build/make.log file, please, to check what is wrong there
[03:17] <hecsa> mylezzz: that and /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-experimental-304/304.48/build/make.log
[03:17] <dell> Logos01: If they are not the installation mounting just escapes with error. That should be no problem
[03:18] <Logos01> That is correct insofar as how the normal behavior ought to be.
[03:18] <Logos01> Unfortunately ... it's not the behavior I'm observing.
[03:18] <mylezzz> hecsa: Will do now thanks, before I do, if its of any relevance I am using bumblebee as I have Nvidia Optimus graphics. Does this matter?
[03:18] <Logos01> And either way -- the "S to skip or M for manual recovery" -- if I press "M" it *ought* to get me into a recovery shell but it's just hanging.
[03:19] <hecsa> mylezzz: maybe...you can check some sort of message in the second log I pointed out
[03:19] <Logos01> Thing is ... it shouldn't even get to the point of doing network shares in recovery mode.
[03:19] <Logos01> And it shouldn't be attempting to launch all normal services -- such as squid-deb-proxy -- but it's doing just that.
[03:20] <mylezzz> hecsa: nvidia-experimental-310 is also referenced in the original paste, do I need to get that one as well?
[03:20] <hecsa> mylezzz: give me some minutes...my wife claims her husband :D
[03:20] <dell> Logos01: Here is my configuration of grub2 configuration file. May be you can tweak your grub.cfg file using this. (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5639003/)
[03:20] <mylezzz> hecsa: haha no problem
[03:20] <Logos01> dell: I'd have to get into it via LiveCD for that.
[03:21] <dell> Logos01: Yes, boot usign LiveCD, mount ubuntu drive and edit your grub.cfg file. Leave other menuentry even with error. Add a new one. with these settings and reboot
[03:21] <Logos01> dell: Also, that's a "normal"/"standard" GRUB config entry (normal boot that is) -- not much help to me here.
[03:22] <Logos01> dell: That would produce the same behavior as it's functionally no different from a normal boot.
[03:22] <dell> Logos01: When you select ubuntu from grub, what message it gives?
[03:22] <Logos01> Something about my OS environment when booting into the normal/full env is borked and I need to get into single-user mode to fix it; this is problematic given Canonical's infinitely wise decision to strip out single-user mode from the kernel.
[03:23] <hanasaki> cpufreq-set -g ondemand -c 0 -d 800Mhz -u 3500Mhz
[03:23] <Logos01> dell: It begins the boot, going through the dmesg statements through to loading services.
[03:23] <dr_willis> hmm... init=/bin/bash is single user mode basically isent it?
[03:23] <Logos01> And then it hangs at the point I described.
[03:23] <hanasaki> dell that did it... but... there is not easy way to config it on startup
[03:23] <Logos01> dr_willis: You'd think.
[03:23] <dr_willis> actually we had a discussion avbout single user mode vs text mode yesterday
[03:23] <Logos01> But unfortunately when I tried that it gave me errors related to it being an inappropriate ioctl for the device.
[03:24] <Logos01> In RHEL-verse, runlevel 1 vs 3 & 5 yeah.
[03:24] <Logos01> There are significant differences.
[03:24] <dell> hanasaki: Put it in /etc/rc.local file before exit 0
[03:24] <dr_willis> that sounds like some  hardware quirk.  ive definatly seen people use that init=/bin/bash trick befor
[03:24] <Logos01> Yeah, I know.
[03:24] <Logos01> Thing is, I know the files are intact.
[03:24] <hanasaki> dell good point.. what's up though.. it used to just work
[03:25] <Logos01> hanasaki: Other option is to make an upstart job and specify the runlevels but .. eh.
[03:25] <hanasaki> Logos01:  what changed in ubuntu that it worked out of the box before and now.. :(
[03:25] <mylezzz> hecsa: thanks again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5639014/
[03:26] <Logos01> hanasaki: I am not informed enough to provide you with an answer to that question.
[03:26] <Logos01> Sorry.
[03:26] <mylezzz> Kow: are you still about?
[03:27] <dell> Logos01: Currently, are you logged in from a dual boot on same computer, or are you using another another computer to login and this chat
[03:27] <dell> hanasaki: I don't know, but it used to work for me too.
[03:28] <Logos01> dell: I'm talking to you from a different machine.
[03:28] <Logos01> The non-booting machine is single-OS
[03:29] <hanasaki> dell when did it stop working for you ?
[03:29] <Albet> ...
[03:29] <dell> hanasaki: Actually it has always been so for newer computers. I had no such problem in older one.
[03:30] <hanasaki> mine is 4 years old
[03:31] <dell> Logos01: How do you mount the NFS drives, do you use fstab? I don't know much about NFS
[03:31] <Logos01> fstab, yes
[03:32] <dell> Logos01: Boot using liveusb, remove those entries and see if it boots. After you are logged in you can see why your NFS drives are having input output error
[03:33] <Logos01> dell: I highly, strongly doubt that's the source of the problem.
[03:34] <dell> Logos01: Yes boot does not depend on NFS, that means your disks are telling some bad story. Because ioctl error does not suggest any other thing.
[03:36] <dell> Logos01: May be you could try fsck using the livedisk
[03:36] <safecancel> is there a way to restrict the maximum size of all windows when maximised (globally). i.e. when any window is maximised, it is actually not, in effect creating a padded area of visible desktop space around it. "window padding" .. dconf ... somthingsuch? cluck? CLUCK?
[03:36] <safecancel> and hello
[03:36] <safecancel> :)
[03:38] <safecancel> maybe i should use gDevilspie?
[03:38] <CorruptedHelix> Hi. I used UNetBootin to install Ubuntu 12.10 onto my USB drive. Attempting to go into the BIOS and boot from USB brings up an error on the screen stating that no operating system is installed, and to press Ctrl+Alt+Del to exit. Windows 8 loads up just fine, though, it's only the USB stick. Note that this computer came with Windows 7, I just did a full format and installed Win8.
[03:39] <CorruptedHelix> I don't know why it's not working, however, I have tried both 32bit and 64bit revisions (my machine is 64bit). This method has worked when I was on Windows 7.
[03:40] <CorruptedHelix> How would I fix this issue?
[03:40] <Nach0z> CorruptedHelix: might use gparted to check that the hard drive has a boot partition set
[03:41] <CorruptedHelix> Nach0z: I have no problem booting into my C: drive
[03:41] <CorruptedHelix> And I'm currently running windows 8
[03:41] <CorruptedHelix> The problem is, I can't even boot into ubuntu via a usb stick
[03:41] <Nach0z> oh gotcha
[03:41] <CorruptedHelix> to try it out
[03:41] <Nach0z> misread.
[03:41] <Nach0z> um, unetbootin has never worked for me, try Lili
[03:41] <CorruptedHelix> Will do...
[03:41] <dell> CorruptedHelix: Yes it should have boot flag on. You could try fdisk /dev/sdb (If that is your flash drive) and use a to mark the flag and w to write and exit
[03:42] <mylezzz> hecsa: let me know when your back, thanks again
[03:42] <CorruptedHelix> dell: No access to Ubuntu, the drive works because it's how I installed Ubuntu 12.04 before this, and Windows 8 before this
[03:42] <CorruptedHelix> there's no reason for it not work now
[03:42] <Logos01> Hrm... just got into busybox prompt -- initramfs ... we'll see what I can do from here.
[03:42] <dell> CorruptedHelix: Then use different software. E.g YUMI-0.0.8.3-usbcreator.exe
[03:43] <mlt-> Is it normal that after one of the recent updates for 13.04 I see a black colored menu in terminal emulator, emacs, etc instead of a solid grey of GreyBird?
[03:43] <CorruptedHelix> I was just told to use Lili :p
[03:43] <dell> Logos01: Yes, at least that was a good start
[03:44] <CorruptedHelix> I'll install YUMI and try to install from there. If it still fails, you'll know by the fact that I'll be back :)
[03:45] <seednode> They always come back
[03:45] <CorruptedHelix> ...I hope I don't
[03:45] <goldbug> hi
[03:46] <goldbug> so i am just trying out ubuntu for the first time and i am having a bit of difficulty
[03:46] <seednode> Alright
[03:46] <seednode> What difficulty in particular?
[03:46] <Coded1> does sshfs keep it's keys in a different location then ssh? I'm able to login with out a password via ssh but I added the mount option to fstab and it asks for a password.  Anyone experienced the same issue?
[03:46] <goldbug> at first once you logged into it it would not display any desktop
[03:47] <goldbug> well i swapped graphics cards to an old one and it worked long enough for me to install the latest nvidia driver
[03:47] <goldbug> so i can get my main card working
[03:47] <goldbug> and it did
[03:47] <goldbug> so now next problem
[03:47] <goldbug> my taskbar is off the screeen
[03:47] <goldbug> and I have no idea how to get it visible so i can actually interact with it
[03:48] <goldbug> I am running a nvidia quarto
[03:48] <goldbug> which says it is supported
[03:48] <holstein> what says what?
[03:48] <holstein> !ati | goldbug is what i always refer to
[03:49] <holstein> goldbug: do you have a setting on the physical monitor? sometimes you just have to fiddle around with it a bit
[03:49] <cronus> Coded1, i never used sshfs in fstab, but more likely since mounting is done by root and ssh is using the keys stored in the home folder, you should try make ssh work as root without a password
[03:50] <Coded1> cronus: ahh that make sense
[03:50] <Coded1> cronus: thanks
[03:50] <cronus> Coded1, hope it helps.
[03:59] <vect0r> I wonder if we'll ever see a usable email client that supports (fully) exchange/activesnc any time soon.
[04:02] <dell> CorruptedHelix: Good Luck
[04:05] <Logos01> dell: For what it's worth I'm able to chroot into the env from initramfs/busybox so ... yeah.
[04:05] <Logos01> Joy.
[04:06] <dell> Logos01: Good Luck
[04:06] <Logos01> Yeah...
[04:11] <dakotawulfy> hi
[04:12] <dakotawulfy> when u type sensors and u get the out put is the temp 1 temp 2 and temp 3 the same on all computers as far as what they are
[04:12] <Logos01> dell: I have no explanation for how this is even feasible but ... it was squid-deb-proxy.
[04:13] <dell> Logos01: Wow, how could it effect the boot
[04:13] <Logos01> "I have no explanation for how this is even feasible" <-- I did it on the basis of that's where it was hanging each time.
[04:13] <alpharender> Hi
[04:13] <Logos01> Here's the kicker though -- I never did get into recovery mode.
[04:13] <ovrflw0x> after booting ends - i don't land at login prompt - instead i see "Reached target multiuser".. that's it then i've to switch to tty2 manually to see login prompt!
[04:14] <alpharender> How can I add launcher in applications?
[04:14] <dell> Logos01: Now can you reboot without problem?
[04:15] <Logos01> Just did. Gonna try uncommenting nfs entry and see if it really was just squid-deb-proxy
[04:15] <dell> Logos01: You should definitely see how that program can affect the boot.
[04:15] <woo> is localhost most of the time going to be 127.0.0.1?
[04:16] <sonOfRa> yes
[04:17] <thesadmafioso> I want to set up NFS on my local network, should I be installing "nfs-common" from the repositories?
[04:18] <sonOfRa> woo, but if you're using mysql, 127.0.0.1 is different from localhost.
[04:18] <ovrflw0x> after booting ends - i don't land at login prompt - instead i see "Reached target multiuser".. that's it then i've to switch to tty2 manually to see login prompt!
[04:18] <Logos01> dell: I have a lot of nested filesystems.
[04:19] <Logos01> Pretty sure I know what's going on here actually.
[04:19] <woo> sonOfRa: im not quite to mysql yet. working on apache2
[04:19] <Logos01> Filesystems for /var/log and /var/cache/apt wouldn't mount because squid-deb-proxy was trying to create directories there.
[04:20] <sonOfRa> at that point, localhost will be 127.0.0.1, yes. technically, any address in the 127.0.0.0/8 block can be used as a loopback though
[04:21] <dell> Logos01: I don't know much about squid-deb-proxy. It seems people have lots of error with it lately. http://ubuntu.distrosfaqs.org/ubuntu-users/squid-deb-proxy-problem-on-raring-ipv6-i-think/
[04:22] <Logos01> dell: Yeah, it doesn't really even get me anything since I already maintain said NFS-based local mirror of Ubuntu
[04:23] <Logos01> (Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, amd64 i386, main, universe,multivers,restricted security-updates...  a number of PPAs... and debian stable/testing/experimental main contrib non-free ... and CentOS 5/6 all ++ EPEL ...)
[04:23] <Logos01> I may or may not be a tad overzealous with this.
[04:24] <ovrflw0x> after booting ends - i don't land at login prompt - instead i see "Reached target multiuser".. that's it then i've to switch to tty2 manually to see login prompt!
[04:25] <dell> Logos01: Wow that's many
[04:26] <Logos01> dell: Takes up about 450GB
[04:26] <Logos01> I'm not doing any source packages.
[04:27] <chunkyhead> hey guys remember i was talking abt speech2text yesterday? i found something AMAZING and wanted to share it with you guys
[04:27] <chunkyhead> just check out this video: explains it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8SkdfdXWYaI#at=942
[04:27] <Logos01> I'm also torrent-seeding about 80GB's worth of distro ISOs.
[04:27] <dell> Logos01: Is it public mirror or your private
[04:28] <Logos01> private
[04:28]  * Logos01 is a dirty filthy leecher of repo
[04:28] <Logos01> This is my home network.
[04:29] <Logos01> If I were on something that seeding wouldn't kill my bandwidth / violate my TOS I'd be willing to host public.
[04:29] <dell> Logos01: Why, in my case my country's public mirror works fine.
[04:29] <Logos01> When you install packages via NFS mount you skip the download phase and go straight to configuration.
[04:30] <Logos01> Plus I have gigabit LAN so there's that.
[04:30] <dell> Logos01: How many computers do you use
[04:30] <Logos01> I have my soon-to-be router, my personal laptop, my mediaPC, my NAS, and my hypervisor -- those are all the physicals.
[04:30] <Logos01> I currently have 12 CentOS images running on the hypervisor, and plan on a similar number of Debian and possibly two or three Ubuntu machines.
[04:31] <Logos01> So ... all told probably about 30 OS instances.
[04:31] <dell> Logos01: Are those installations for client?
[04:31] <Logos01> Nope, just for me.
[04:31] <dell> Logos01: Why? 12 centos images. What is the difference?
[04:32] <dell> Logos01: LOL
[04:32] <Logos01> Well, I work as an enterprise Linux admin.
[04:32] <Logos01> So I maintain a whitebox lab at home in order to keep up with the necessary skillsets.
[04:32] <dell> Logos01: Are they your test machines?
[04:32] <Logos01> Either test or performing some other job.
[04:32] <dell> Logos01: I understand
[04:32] <mehwork> how come when i do 'sudo useradd foo' it doesn't create /home/foo, but if i type 'sudo useradd foo' again it says that 'user foo already exists'?
[04:33] <Logos01> For example I have a spacewalk server, a postgres server, an ldap server, a git server...
[04:33] <dr_willis> mehwork:  use adduser. not useradd
[04:33] <Logos01> a couple of rpmbuild servers (for 5 and 6 -- the process is different)
[04:33] <ovrflw0x> after booting ends - i don't land at login prompt - instead i see "Reached target multiuser".. that's it then i've to switch to tty2 manually to see login prompt!
[04:33] <dell> Logos01: Dizzy
[04:33] <Logos01> And two each of 5/6 i386/x86_64 purely for test purposes.
[04:33] <dr_willis> mehwork:  because it is adding the user.. you are not givng all the options needed for it to make the home and other things
[04:33] <Logos01> (Two each because that way I can test clustered functionality)
[04:34] <dell> Logos01: Hadoop?
[04:34] <Logos01> Eventually I'll also have a mantis/bug-tracker server and probably set up SOGO (groupware -- think shared calendar)
[04:34] <mehwork> ok thanks
[04:34] <Logos01> Hadoop is one example of something that's clustered, sure.
[04:34] <dell> Logos01: mantis does not take that much space
[04:34] <Logos01> Not at all. :)
[04:34] <mehwork> dr_willis: man useradd says it creates a new user. Confusing
[04:34] <Logos01> But it gets its own dedicated OS instance.
[04:35] <dr_willis> mehwork:  it DOES create a new user.. you  need to  tell it other options IF you  want to make a home direcgory for that user
[04:35] <dell> Logos01: You could be running all apache (what ever), mantis in same. But testing as if it were individual sure might be help. Don't know about that
[04:35] <dr_willis> mehwork:  useradd has totally differnt defaults then adduser does
[04:36] <Logos01> dell: I don't have a separate Apache server for anything right now.
[04:36] <dr_willis> mehwork:   i suggest you never use    useradd. but use adduser instead
[04:36] <Logos01> Mantis OS instance wuold likely cohost mantis and its apache/nginx (whichever)
[04:36] <mehwork> ok
[04:36] <dell> Logos01: Never used engine X
[04:37] <Logos01> Yeah.
[04:37] <dell> Logos01: Is it faster than apache?
[04:37] <dell> Logos01: Default
[04:37] <mehwork> the alternative download page for ubuntu just shows i386, but not if it's 32-bit or 64-bit. Any idea why?
[04:38] <dr_willis> 386 would be 32bit
[04:38] <dell> mehwork: 32 bit
[04:38] <mehwork> like the page for torrent downloads
[04:38] <thesadmafioso> i386 implies that it would be 32-bit
[04:38] <dr_willis> amd64 = 64bit
[04:38] <Logos01> dell: I've not used it myself but it's designed exclusively to handle static content.
[04:38] <mehwork> dr_willis: intell doesn't make 64bit?
[04:38] <Logos01> dell: So it's very optimized for that purpose, and is considered much faster for static content machines.
[04:38] <mehwork> i'm so confused
[04:38] <dr_willis> mehwork:  they licensed the stuff from AMD.. so amd had it first
[04:38] <dell> Logos01: Should definitely try in some of my future work
[04:39] <mehwork> dr_willis: so if i wanted to install 64-bit linux on an intel machine, i need the amd version?
[04:39] <dr_willis> AMD64 bit extensions are made by amd. and licensed by intel
[04:39] <dr_willis> mehwork:  yes..
[04:39] <mehwork> wow, learn something new every day
[04:39] <dr_willis> its called AMD64 because AMD had it first
[04:39] <dr_willis> basically. ;)
[04:39] <dr_willis> some disrtos use other names for their 64bit stuff
[04:39] <thesadmafioso> Isn't the intel 64-bit stuff usually just "i686"
[04:39] <mehwork> i don't get how someone can own the idea of 64-bit
[04:39] <dell> Logos01: Bye, my gaming time
[04:40] <Logos01> :D
[04:40] <dr_willis> mehwork:  amd created '64bit extensions' for the  32bit chipset.. i guess... they coded in teh 64bit stuff
[04:40] <dr_willis> we never said they own the idea of 64bit...
[04:40] <mehwork> sounds like intel really dropped the ball on that one
[04:40] <mehwork> anyway, thanks
[04:41] <dr_willis> intel has (had?) their own very differnt 64bit cpu but it was not backwards comaptiable
[04:41] <dr_willis> time to hit up the wiki pages :) if you want details
[04:41] <quick-> Hi , how can i get a code fpr the ps process ?
[04:41] <dr_willis> !source
[04:41] <dr_willis> find what package its in.. get the source package
[04:42] <dr_willis> !find  /bin/ps
[04:43] <quick-> dr_willis:  it comes as the generally in all *nix systems.
[04:43] <quick-> dr_willis:  Thanks :)
[04:43] <dr_willis> quick-:  yes.. but its supplied by one of the packages... such as 'console-tools' or 'gnutls-bin'
[04:43] <dr_willis> since itss a fairly  standard command. it most likely comes with the other core cli commands
[04:44] <thesadmafioso> So, I am reading up on NFS and RPC . . . it's my understanding that RPC is the protocol that allows for execution of commands on other network machines?
[04:45] <quick-> dr_willis: Yea , i got it :)
[04:47] <quick-> dr_willis: If i may ask how can i log each program used by the user .I dont wanna use acct or auditctl
[04:47] <dr_willis> perhaps rbash  has that feature (its a bash shell alterantive/feature of bash)
[04:48] <dr_willis> ive never needed to log  my users. :) its just me and the dog..
[04:49] <quick-> dr_willis: Ha ha :D .Well, Thanks for the answer> Is there any dev channel for ubuntu or *nix  ?
[04:50] <dr_willis> !alis
[04:50] <dr_willis> #ubuntu-dev perhaps.
[04:55] <quick-> dr_willis:  i have an  HP with AMD Radeon gra[phics driver installed but in additional drivers it says activated but not currently i use. How can i  put it in use .
[04:56] <Platz> so, I updated /usr/bin/python3 to point to python3.3 (previously pointing to python3.2 in quantal).  Is this crazy/stupid?
[04:56] <alpharender> what can I do about java apps with menus that act strange if I split the window by dragging it to the edge? Does this make sense?
[04:57] <Platz> i was having some issues running apt-add-repository when i noticed it was using /usr/bin/python3
[04:58] <Platz> reinstalling python3-apt didn't work; i had to run "python3.2 apt-add-repository" for it to work w/o errors'
[04:59] <Platz> in other words, must /usr/bin/python3 point to python3.2 always in quntal?
[05:02] <MHA152_> hello everybody why my pidgin can't access my irc acount
[05:02] <bgupta_> is there an irc channel to talk about chrubuntu?
[05:09] <MHA152_> why my pidgin can't access my irc acount
[05:13] <Betanu701> Hey guys, I have 2 hybrid Tv tuners in my computer, The digital side works perfectly on both cards, however I can not get analog to play on anything. In kaffeine it shows that there is a little signal when i can NTSC but no channels. I have cable, which they are still pumping analog through the line. Any help?
[05:14] <somsip> alpharender: some problems with java apps can be solved by running 'wmname LG3D' so might be worth a try
[05:24] <mylezzz>  Tried updating the kernel but getting errors, anyone take a look?
[05:25] <mariko> hello.
[05:26] <Betanu701> What erros?
[05:26] <Betanu701> errors*
[05:27] <goldbug> question: why would i not get a dashboard or any gui what so ever when i boot up ubuntu?
[05:27] <mylezzz> Betanu701: Here is the install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5638971/ and here is the the make.logs from that install http://paste.ubuntu.com/5639014/
[05:28] <Platz> so i take it everyone is using virtualenv for python3?  no-one is messing w/ their /usr/bin/python3 ?
[05:29] <Betanu701> mylezzz: how did you update your kernel?
[05:29] <kevinkace> Anyone familiar with php on ubuntu?
[05:30] <kevinkace> having trouble with include_path
[05:30] <kevinkace> include_path = ".:/mnt/sda6/PROJECTS/CODE/polyshape"
[05:30] <kevinkace> dir exists
[05:31] <kevinkace> PHP Fatal error:  require(): Failed opening required '/AutoLoader.php' (include_path='.:/mnt/sda6/PROJECTS/CODE/polyshape') in /mnt/sda6/PROJECTS/CODE/polyshape/www/inter-test.php on line 3
[05:32] <mobina> hey guys im having another 3 wireless access point n i wanna  c them in terminal wat is the command when i iwlist it only indicates the one im connecting
[05:32] <Betanu701> mobina are you reffering to ifconfig?
[05:33] <mobina> no when u click on the network manager in the wireless section it shows wireless1,wireless2,... i wanna c them in terminal
[05:34] <dr_willis> ifconfig should show all mnetwork devices
[05:36] <mobina> dr_willis, i wanna c wireless available around me not the one im coonect in
[05:38] <bobbyz> kevinkace: I'm headed to bed so I can't help with any follow-up, but have you checked permissions on /mnt/sda6/PROJECTS/CODE/polyshape/AutoLoader.php ?  Without any more info I'm assuming you are running PHP from apache and apache is running as user www-date, group www-data, so that file needs to be readable by www-data group
[05:39] <bobbyz> and all parent dirs need to be set with propert permissions as well
[05:39] <Betanu701> Hey guys, I have 2 hybrid Tv tuners in my computer, The digital side works perfectly on both cards, however I can not get analog to play on anything. In kaffeine it shows that there is a little signal when i can NTSC but no channels. I have cable, which they are still pumping analog through the line. Any help?
[05:43] <mynameisdeleted> so... desktop linux wars.. I see on w3c that desktop linux use there in 2003 was 2.2% and its steadilly grown to almost 5%
[05:44] <mynameisdeleted> I see mobile-linux looks far more promising and people in 5 years may stop using desktops in preference to cloud operating system and mobile devices
[05:44] <dr_willis> mobina:  there are cli commands to show seen networks.  i suggest checking the iwlist and other related commands.
[05:45] <dr_willis> mynameisdeleted:  so... do yiou have an actual ubuntu support question? ;)
[05:45] <mobina> with iwlist i get the one i connecting in  :(
[05:45] <dr_willis> mobina:  check out the other wireless commands and the options for iwlist
[05:45] <dr_willis> man iwlist
[05:47] <mobina> dr_willis, wlan0     Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[05:47] <dr_willis> mobina:  and  'iwlist' has a scan option....
[05:49] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_tools_for_Linux#Sample_iwlist_output
[05:49] <mobina> ven i run this :  sudo iwlist wlan0 accesspoint scan  it returns : iwlist: command `accesspoints' needs fewer arguments (max 0)
[05:50] <dr_willis> looks like its saying..  not to use the  accesspoint argument to me..
[05:51] <dr_willis> http://linux.die.net/man/8/iwlist             says the 'accesspoint' argument is obsolete.
[06:05] <ikillcypher> Hello Guys
[06:06] <maestrojed> I upgraded from Ubuntu10 to Unbuntu12.04 and now my sound card isn't fully working. I guess I have to reinstall the OS if I want to roll back to Ubuntu11 or Ubuntu10? No such thing as a downgrade, right?
[06:07] <ikillcypher> I was wondering if anyone here know of a very serious bug :( installing ATI on my Ubuntu has render my unity and everything useless it is all gone and the graphics are in low Im using 12.10 x64 Bit this bug seems to be affecting not only Ubuntu but Linux Mint as well Im hoping some developers here can help me out in my issue.. thanks.
[06:08] <dr_willis> maestrojed:  its also possible a clean instggall of 12.04 may  work
[06:08] <maestrojed> dr_willis Cool I will try that first
[06:09] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  i see variants off that issue in here all the time.. or unity only partially starts up. - you get the desktop, wallpaper, cursor and some features but the main panels dont work.
[06:09] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  seen it happpen to ati. nvidia, and intel  users in here
[06:09] <ikillcypher> ok so will it be fixed?
[06:10] <ikillcypher> in 13.04 ?
[06:10] <dr_willis> im not even sure theres  a 'single' cause of the issue
[06:10] <ikillcypher> what is causing this??
[06:10] <dr_willis> if your  login  screen looks correct try making a new user and see if it works for them
[06:10] <ikillcypher> it is wrong :(
[06:10] <ikillcypher> it is in low graphics
[06:11] <dr_willis> that points to a driver issue.  you tried running the ati config tool and setting a res in the xorg.conf file?
[06:11] <ikillcypher> how do I go back to OSS ?
[06:12] <dr_willis> remove the other driver.
[06:12] <ikillcypher> cause I hear it works much better
[06:12] <ikillcypher> Im facing this btw
[06:12] <ikillcypher> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2073198
[06:12] <dr_willis> but ive seen people in here that cant seem to remove it. or it still goofs up. perhaps due to a bad xorg.conf file
[06:12] <ikillcypher> ok so what should I do?
[06:12] <ikillcypher> reinstall Ubuntu ?!
[06:13] <Ben64> i would just ... not use unity
[06:13] <dr_willis> if you  want to go  back to the opwn sourced drivers.  uninstall the fglrx drivers
[06:13] <dr_willis> hes having issues at the login screen.. so it may not be a unity  issue.
[06:13] <dr_willis> you could try a differnt desktop like lubuntu and see if it  lets you set the proper res.
[06:13] <ikillcypher> my whole ubuntu is kinda f up :(
[06:13] <dr_willis> running that ati confoig tool might let you set the res via the xorg.conf file
[06:14] <Ben64> unfortunately i don't know much about ati
[06:14] <ikillcypher> everything is gone unity
[06:14] <Ben64> last ati card i had was radeon 9200
[06:14] <stiltzkin> Hey guys, hoping someone can help me with this. I'm attempting to resize an encrypted LVM using this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions, but when I attempt to run e2fsck on my lv root, I get "Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks...Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open..." What's going on? The filesystem is not corrupted, I'm sure of that.
[06:14] <ikillcypher> Ben64, it is a bug !
[06:14] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  so... install lubuntu-desktop. try the ati config tool....
[06:14] <Ben64> ikillcypher: you should still be able to open a terminal with CTRL+ALT+T
[06:14] <ikillcypher> many people are facing this
[06:14] <we6jbo> I'm trying to install google talkplugin and it keeps going back and asking me if I want to install again
[06:14] <Ben64> ikillcypher: it may be many bugs
[06:14] <dr_willis> many people are faceing variantions of the issue also...
[06:15] <ikillcypher> and it has not been fixed for a very ver long time
[06:15] <ikillcypher> https://bugs.launchpad.net/fglrx/+bug/1068661
[06:15] <dr_willis> we6jbo:  how are you installing it?
[06:15] <Ben64> ikillcypher: thats why i stick to LTS releases
[06:15] <ikillcypher> LTS is stil the same
[06:15] <ikillcypher> dude you dont understand
[06:15] <dr_willis> Hybrid cards - are a known issue.
[06:15] <we6jbo> dr_willis: I'm clicking on it
[06:16] <dr_willis> we6jbo:  download the .deb and install it via the terminal. then restart your browser
[06:16] <we6jbo> dr_willis: and Ubuntu Software Center runs
[06:16] <ikillcypher> dr_willis Im On Legacy 3400 HD ATI Card
[06:16] <we6jbo> oh
[06:16] <we6jbo> dpkg -i
[06:16] <Ben64> ikillcypher: dude, 12.04 still has non-3d unity, so it would work without acceleration
[06:16] <dr_willis> or 'sudo gdebi foo.deb'  we6jbo
[06:16] <ikillcypher> Ben64, it is cause by the graphics card
[06:16] <we6jbo> ok i'll try yours
[06:17] <dr_willis> if you have gdebi installed. ;)
[06:17] <we6jbo> oh it says it's not installed
[06:17] <dr_willis> gdebi  is handy..
[06:17] <stiltzkin> Anybody? If I can't actually resize this partition then I'll have to reinstall the whole OS just to gain a few GB of space :/
[06:17] <we6jbo> ok i'l install it
[06:17] <dr_willis> stiltzkin:  clarify what you are doing.
[06:18] <ikillcypher> dr_willis, are you a developer ?
[06:18] <dr_willis> I dont use lvm. but perhaps others are.
[06:18] <goldbug> so why is it that i am getting this error when i try to run unity Fatal: glXQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 0
[06:18] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  just a hobbiest
[06:18] <ikillcypher> so pretty much you know about this issue ?
[06:18] <stiltzkin> dr_willis, I have an encrypted partition on /dev/sda3 containing two containers, one for swap, one for root (pretty typical setup). I want to shrink the root partition by about 15GB and the corresponding size of the LVM volume, which is what the guide I linked shows how to do.
[06:19] <Ben64> ikillcypher: he's here almost 24/7 answering questions
[06:19] <ikillcypher> this bug has been here for a very long time
[06:19] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  ive seen dozens in here with related issues..  as i mentioned.. try installing a 2d desktop. and then run the ati config tool (whatever its called) to see if you can set the res.
[06:19] <we6jbo> I hope I don't forget I have that program and that I never use it again after I install the google plugin
[06:19] <ikillcypher> and I will be depress if isnt fix on 13.04
[06:19] <ikillcypher> dr
[06:19] <dr_willis> so far ive not seen you mention anything you  have done to try to 'fix' the issue.
[06:19] <stiltzkin> The problem is that the required filesystem check before the resize fails, i.e. it indicates that my partition is corrupt or non-existent, when that is not the case (two day old install on a brand-new SSD)
[06:20] <ikillcypher> dr_willis, Im trying to fix the issue but If I remove this now I will lack in alot of my software support
[06:20] <ikillcypher> :(
[06:20] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  ive seen dozens in here with related issues..  as i mentioned.. try installing a 2d desktop. and then run the ati config tool (whatever its called) to see if you can set the res.    <<<<<<<<<
[06:20] <we6jbo> aww it didn't work. google chrome isn't seeing that I've installed the plugin
[06:20] <Ben64> stiltzkin: i'd bet it's because it's encrypted. i don't know anything about encrypted filesystems or lvm though, sorry
[06:21] <ikillcypher> ok wait brb
[06:21] <stiltzkin> Ben64, but it's an unlocked volume, I've already set up the volume groups and applied the decryption key, as the guide says to do...
[06:21] <dr_willis> i  always have lubuntu  installed as a backup desktop. (and its what the wife uses)
[06:21] <vooze> set irc_join_delay 20
[06:21] <vooze> oop
[06:21] <vooze> s
[06:21] <we6jbo> aww it didnt work
[06:22] <stiltzkin> At this point maybe it is easier to just reinstall. I thought I would try this first
[06:27] <ikillcypher> compiz (core) - Info: Unity is not supported by your hardware. Enabling software rendering instead (slow).
[06:28] <dr_willis> that points to a driver issue.
[06:28] <ikillcypher> yes :(
[06:28] <dr_willis> no 3d support
[06:29] <ikillcypher> yes it cause by AMD fglrx video driver
[06:32] <dr_willis> or unity isnot thinking it has 3d support.
[06:33] <goldbug> so why then am i getting a Fatal: glXQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 0 for a nvidia quadro 1300?
[06:33] <goldbug> it says that the card is supported
[06:37] <muya_> Anyone know how I can improve copy speeds over scp when copying files from linux to pc using pscp?
[06:37] <ikillcypher> dr_willis, I installed : http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx
[06:38] <maestrojed> start
[06:40] <dr_willis> using the non repo drivers mean you are basicallyon your own.
[06:48] <ikillcypher> dr_willis,
[06:49] <ikillcypher> it is using some VESA Graphics
[06:51] <dr_willis> vesa is the bottom end drivers used when all else fails
[06:53] <ikillcypher> yes it is using that is default
[06:53] <ikillcypher> now :( I know that proprietary has some serious issues
[06:53] <ikillcypher> my best is to either use a open source driver
[06:55] <ikillcypher> http://pastie.org/private/b1k8dqa6gs8w0jgykkt3w
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> soundcloud lags on firefox, any lightweight alternatives for ubuntu to download the soundcloud livesets?
[06:57] <dr_willis> the propitary drivers disabled and nlacklisted the oss drivers
[06:58] <ikillcypher> dr_willis, what ?!
[07:01] <dr_willis> uninstalll the fglrx drivers.. unblacklist the oss radeon drivers
[07:09] <ikillcypher> dr_willis, Im using OSS Driver now
[07:09] <ikillcypher> well I guess :( this is it
[07:09] <GeekBlogTV> this is never it
[07:09] <GeekBlogTV> its never too late....
[07:09] <GeekBlogTV> ....to switch to Fedora
[07:10] <thufir_> do you say ~/myHome or /~myHome?  the first one, right?
[07:11] <Ben64> thufir_: ~ = your home directory
[07:12] <dr_willis> ikillcypher: the vga driver is not the same as the radeon driver. which areyou using
[07:12] <ikillcypher> Im using OSS Radeon driver
[07:12] <ikillcypher> o.o
[07:13] <ikillcypher> radeon                895730  2
[07:13] <ikillcypher> Driver : Unknown
[07:14] <ikillcypher> Experience : Standard
[07:17] <thufir_> Ben64: so, you would write ~/thufir/whatever.txt or would you write ~/whatever.txt if "thufir" is my home directory?
[07:18] <Ben64> ~/whatever.txt
[07:18] <thufir_> Ben64: thx
[07:20] <sonOfRa> ~ANYNAME/ is ANYNAME's homedir
[07:20] <sonOfRa> ~/ is the current user's homedir
[07:21] <dr_willis> ~ = /home/usersnane
[07:21] <maestrojed> I am trying to install ubuntu12 from a USB drive. I am using Startup Disc Creator to copy my ISO and setup my USB drive. However on boot I get "missing operating system". I think I may just need to make this drive "bootable". Can anyone help?
[07:22] <sonOfRa> dr_willis, not necessarily.
[07:22] <dr_willis> maestrojed: you havesn os on the hd allready?
[07:23] <maestrojed> dr_willis yes, But I want to install over it.
[07:23] <Guest22784> hollw
[07:24] <maestrojed> dr_willis I have Ubuntu12 currently running. I was going to install a fresh install because my sound card is not fully working.
[07:25] <dr_willis> either the usn was made wrong. or  the bios isbooting the wrong device
[07:26] <maestrojed> dr_willis I confirmed in the bios that the usb boots first. I see a "missing operating system" message first, for a second or two, then it moves on to grub. I think that message is when it tries to book from the usb. I will keep researching
[07:27] <maestrojed> dr_willis I have made the usb multiple times (with Startup Disk Creator every time)
[07:27] <maestrojed> Is there a better way to make it?
[07:27] <dr_willis> try tools from the pendtivelinux site  or dd
[07:28] <dr_willis> try tools from the pendtivelinux site  or dd
[07:30] <maestrojed> ok, thanks.
[07:34] <Fireinthehole> hello all
[07:35] <Fireinthehole> i am getting this error on my xcaht
[07:35] <Fireinthehole> http://pastebin.com/gZYN1nq4
[07:35] <Fireinthehole> any help??
[07:35] <Fireinthehole> xchat with tor and onion address
[07:36] <dr_willis> !tor
[07:37] <Fireinthehole> @ubotto i am on windows and using tor bundle
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Fireinthehole: This is #Ubuntu, not #tor, #xchat, ##windows, or #freenode.
[07:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fireinthehole: not to be an arse or anything, but if you are on windows why come to the ubuntu channel for help?
[07:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fireinthehole: perhaps this is telling you something :D
[07:39] <maestrojed> can I choose to boot from usb using the GNU Grub?
[07:39] <Jordan_U> maestrojed: Yes.
[07:40] <maestrojed> Jordan_U I don't know these commands well. I don't think my device is listed. But I see I can used a CLI. Do you know how to do this?
[07:41] <Fireinthehole> fuck u gayssssssss.......u are assholes and u get fuck youselfs bye............
[07:42] <dr_willis> hmm.  and the bot gave him help....
[07:42] <contrapunctus> Wow.
[07:42] <contrapunctus> Talk about taking it too personally.
[07:43] <muya_> my menus keep going white without displaying any options. any idea what the problem could be?
[07:43] <MHA152> who know an e-book for python3 in persian?
[07:44] <Guest49383> Hello Herbert
[07:44] <Guest49383> Hello Herbert
[07:46] <HerbertWest> Hello, A little Question. It's a good thing install compiz in Xubuntu 12.10?
[07:47] <contrapunctus> Hey folks...it appears PyQt4 is installing only for Python2 and not Python3.3 as I want...how do I do this? :( Ubuntu Studio 12.04
[07:47] <dr_willis> you can.. but why HerbertWest
[07:48] <HerbertWest> mmm thinking.. u r right better dont
[07:48] <dr_willis> xfcw wont use it by default
[07:49] <contrapunctus> dr_willis why not? God knows Linux could do with bling xD
[07:49] <contrapunctus> Oh.
[07:49] <HerbertWest> xfce id god
[07:49] <HerbertWest> *is
[07:49] <dr_willis> xfce  uses xfwm4
[07:49] <HerbertWest> omg *good
[07:50] <dr_willis> i tend to use  lubuntu
[07:50] <HerbertWest> lubuntu?
[07:50] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[07:50] <HerbertWest> ohh I see it
[07:51] <contrapunctus> Anyone for my query? o.o
[07:51] <contrapunctus> !python
[07:51] <contrapunctus> A-ha.
[07:52] <HerbertWest> dr_willis thank you very much! ill marry with Lubuntu !
[07:56] <helmut_> hi
[07:58] <linse> morning
[08:04] <frank__> ebeneezer
[08:06] <EnriqueMoreno> Hi guys. Can someone please help me get the audio coming through my line-in to my speakers?
[08:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> I like my gnome-panel very much, thank you :3
[08:07] <dr_willis> EnriqueMoreno:  you might have to toy with the pavumixer or  some pther pulse tools.  or use jackd
[08:08] <panorain> hi
[08:08] <EnriqueMoreno> dr_willis, could you please walk me through it?
[08:08] <dr_willis> EnriqueMoreno:  not really. I rarely  use jackd. and im not on a ubuntu box agt the moment
[08:08] <dr_willis> check askubuntu.com perhaps
[08:09] <dr_willis> you might not have to use jackd
[08:09] <EnriqueMoreno> dr_willis, I tries askubuntu already. The question gets ignored always
[08:09] <dr_willis> you did Search first?
[08:09] <EnriqueMoreno> I tried to use alsamixer, but "line-in" doesnt appear in the list
[08:09] <EnriqueMoreno> Yes, I did
[08:10] <dr_willis> alsamixer often has sliders to the left/right that youmight not notice
[08:10] <EnriqueMoreno> dr_willis, I checked it well
[08:10] <dr_willis> the pavu* tools might give better controll
[08:10] <EnriqueMoreno> I have no command called pavumixer available
[08:10] <dr_willis> so install it..
[08:11] <EnriqueMoreno> what is the name of the packet?
[08:11] <dr_willis> !info pavumixer
[08:11] <Ben64> !info pavucontrol
[08:11] <dr_willis> !info pauvmixer
[08:12] <EnriqueMoreno> ah, pavucontrol! Thanks!
[08:12] <dr_willis> apt-get install pa<tab>   ;)
[08:12] <dr_willis> or use the  search feature
[08:12] <EnriqueMoreno> dr_willis, I dont know how to do search with apt-get
[08:12] <metallicanirvana> quit
[08:12] <dr_willis> apt-cache search pattern
[08:12] <dr_willis> !apt
[08:13] <EnriqueMoreno> Ok, i got it. lets see if I can find something useful here..
[08:14] <ferronica> need help regarding Geary Mail getting, not able to sync yahoo mail and not unable to add GMAIL or any other new other mail account error: Error in connection
[08:14] <amala> http://pastebin.com/34HNSSuB
[08:16] <ferronica> Need help urgently...
[08:18] <EnriqueMoreno> Great, not only I didnt fix it, but now sound doesnt work at all
[08:18] <EnriqueMoreno> Im gonna have to reboot -_-
[08:21] <nocturnal_> is there a way i can make my wireless work without having to modprobe every time i login?
[08:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> nocturnal_: you can add it to your, ah what was it, /etc/modprobe file, methinks.
[08:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone care to assist me with this script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5639420/ asked in #bash, but active members seem to be busy assisting another.
[08:30] <peawormsworth> ntzrmtthihu777: im not a bash expert, but how is $size set?
[08:30] <EnriqueMoreno> Im back
[08:30] <EnriqueMoreno> dr_willis, that didnt help :(
[08:33] <Neutron01> hi, good day everyone.
[08:33] <Neutron01> is any pls suggest me good movie editor for ubuntu? :)
[08:33] <aeon-ltd> g'day
[08:33] <Neutron01> :)
[08:35] <peawormsworth> ntzrmtthihu777: I think the first 'if' condition is comparing string to integer.
[08:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> peawormsworth: well mother of perl! I did not replace it on the second part of the script, $size should be the stat thingus in the first if
[08:36] <peawormsworth> ntzrmtthihu777: but still... Im getting all "Large" response... no matter wat the file size. so i dont think the comparison is working.
[08:36] <peawormsworth> ntzrmtthihu777: this is fun... i dont know base ;-)
[08:36] <peawormsworth> ^^ bash
[08:36] <dr_willis> all your bash are belong to us? ;)
[08:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> peawormsworth: yes, I'm gettins same response.
[08:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> make your time
[08:37] <peawormsworth> ntzrmtthihu777: change the condition to $(cmd) > ###
[08:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> someone set us up the fork bomb
[08:37] <ferronica> need help regarding Geary Mail getting, not able to sync yahoo mail and not unable to add GMAIL or any other new other mail account error: Error in connection
[08:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> peawormsworth: ahhh, interesting idear....
[08:38] <peawormsworth> ntzrmtthihu777:    [[ $(stat --printf="%s" "$i") > 71680
[08:38] <peawormsworth> that seems to change the first part to a number.
[08:38] <ikillcypher> :(
[08:38]  * ntzrmtthihu777 hugs peawormsworth tightly
[08:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Thankyou!!!!
[08:42] <peawormsworth> ntzrmtthihu777: its still not working in my tests. let me know if it works for u. im still playing with it.
[08:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> peawormsworth: it works 100%, but its based on very small files's bitesize
[08:43] <peawormsworth> ok. great. i would make sure tho. The comparisons are still not working quite right for me.
[08:44] <Shutterstrom> Hi, If I have minidlna installed using "apt-get install minidlna", and then try to install an upgraded version of minidlna using "make install". Where is my manuall installation of Minidlna installed then? Does it replace the existing installation?
[08:45] <EnriqueMoreno> Hi guys. Can someone please help me get the audio coming through my line-in to my speakers?
[08:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> peawormsworth: you are going into the credits of this script, no if and buts
[08:46] <ikillcypher> guys how do I install windows from ubuntu :( using USB ?
[08:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> *ifs ands or buts
[08:47] <dr_willis> ikillcypher:  you might want to ask in #windows on how to make a bootable usb from a windows iso file.  win8 i think you can image to usb.. not sure about win7 there may be tools at the pendrivelinux site that can do it
[08:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: there is a tool to write a win iso to usb, not sure of the name. likely a cd/dvd would be a better idea, and in that case brasero (for a gui) or dd (for command line) is a good choice.
[08:47] <ikillcypher> thanks
[08:47] <dr_willis> i imagine the lifehacker site has some guides on the topic also
[08:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: in fact you may be able to dd the iso directly to the usb drive... read something to that effect once...
[08:48] <ikillcypher> Im on Ubuntu :(
[08:48] <dr_willis> so?
[08:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: what you trying to install windows for, exactly?
[08:49] <dr_willis> the #windows guys are more likely to know the tricks to installing windows then we are.
[08:49] <Shutterstrom> Hi, If I have minidlna installed using "apt-get install minidlna", and then try to install an upgraded version of minidlna using "make install". Where is my manuall installation of Minidlna installed then? Does it replace the existing installation?
[08:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | Shutterstrom
[08:50] <dr_willis> Shutterstrom:  it depends on where the compuling tells it to go..   normally the ./configure part of the compile can have options to tell it where to install to
[08:50] <auronandace> !checkinstall | Shutterstrom
[08:50] <dr_willis> best would be to find a PPA for the minidlna server
[08:50] <dr_willis> then source+checkinstall
[08:51]  * ntzrmtthihu777 makes note of checkinstall for future source compilation...
[08:51] <ikillcypher> ntzrmtthihu777, Im trying to install windows on my harddisk
[08:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: I get that, but *why*, may I ask
[08:52] <ikillcypher> C# ?
[08:52] <ikillcypher> school work ?!
[08:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: you need a C# ide, then?
[08:53] <dr_willis> trying to conqure the free world?
[08:53] <dr_willis> ;)
[08:53] <auronandace> ikillcypher: you could always put windows in a vm
[08:53] <dr_willis> most pcs these days have windows cds or some sort of recovery method...  unless you deleted your  windows recovery partitions.
[08:53] <ikillcypher> indeed I did
[08:54] <you-tee-f> hello: http://unix.stackexchange.com/unanswered
[08:54] <ikillcypher> and full install Ubuntu
[08:54] <ikillcypher> lol
[08:54] <dr_willis> you-tee-f:  you might  want to summarize the question a bit for us.
[08:54]  * ntzrmtthihu777 removed all traces of win$ from his machines, even sanding off the super keys :3
[08:54] <you-tee-f> can you dr_willis hehe
[08:54] <dr_willis> you-tee-f:  and ubuntu quesions would be best asked on askubuntu.com
[08:55] <you-tee-f> sorry i was failing the paste, it's both unix, linux, ubuntu trouble
[08:55] <ferronica> dr_willis, hi
[08:55] <you-tee-f> i have a problem with my screen
[08:56] <you-tee-f> please consider checking my question on stackoverflow
[08:56] <you-tee-f> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/68811/non-graphical-ttys-not-stretching-full-screensize
[08:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> !details | you-tee-f
[08:56] <ikillcypher> http://www.imagebam.com/image/93e97c245001468  it is frozen how ?!!
[08:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: dunno, did you do anything unusual?
[08:57] <ikillcypher> no !
[08:57] <dr_willis> the graphical 'consoles' can  use the framebuffer, or nonframebufer displays you-tee-f  - if you want to use differnt res's you would wan tto use the fremabuffer method and perhaps tweak things with fbset, or grub options
[08:57] <ikillcypher> how do I cancel
[08:57] <you-tee-f> dr_willis: can you lead me more, that thing is really haunting my nights
[08:58] <dr_willis> im not sure if 'unix' uses  framebuffers or not.. so if its ubuntu related.. the unix.*  would not  be the right way to do it.
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> killall apt-get, methinks. this is why I never use software center; either apt-get or synaptic for me
[08:58] <you-tee-f> dr_willis: i'm on ubuntu
[08:58] <dr_willis> you-tee-f:  fbset ccommand may help. I tend to disable the framebuffer.. and search askubuntu.com
[08:58] <you-tee-f> i see
[08:58] <you-tee-f> i will see what i can do
[08:58] <you-tee-f> thanks
[08:58] <dr_willis> you-tee-f:  but you  posted that question to a UNIX.* group
[08:58] <ikillcypher> ikillcypher@aesir:~$ killall apt-get
[08:58] <ikillcypher> apt-get: no process found
[08:58] <you-tee-f> hmm yes right but i thought it was also Linux thing
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: are you using this machine right now?
[08:59] <dr_willis> you-tee-f:  err.. UNIX is not LINUX
[08:59] <ikillcypher> ...
[08:59] <ikillcypher> yes Im
[08:59] <you-tee-f> dr_willis: i know i know, but the website
[08:59] <ikillcypher> it is stuck
[08:59] <you-tee-f> is for LInux and Unix
[08:59] <you-tee-f> ;->
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: is a reboot out of the question?
[08:59] <ikillcypher> not going to reboot
[08:59] <ikillcypher> is there any other way
[09:00] <dr_willis> console and 'sudo service lightdm restart'  will force X to restart.
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> open system monitor, look for a process named like software center or aptitude.
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: on that note, what does it mean when a process is labeled zombie in gnome-system-monitor?
[09:01] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  its dead and undead.. and cant be killed.. I think the only way to remove them is reboot..
[09:01] <starkiller> i need help XD
[09:01] <dr_willis> 'nuke them from orbit just to be safe'
[09:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: nah, I killed them easily, just curious as to the meaning
[09:01] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process
[09:02] <dr_willis> In the term's metaphor, the child process has "died" but has not yet been "reaped". Also, unlike normal processes, the kill command has no effect on a zombie process.
[09:02] <starkiller> dr wills XD its there anything i can do to save my  ubuntu settings XD
[09:03] <dr_willis> starkiller:  i dont know what your initial problem is.
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: interesting read :D
[09:03] <starkiller> i ust wanna save my programs and configuration :)
[09:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> starkiller: to what end?
[09:04] <dr_willis> starkiller:  so... whts stopping you?
[09:04] <dr_willis> are we going to  have to play 20 questions to get to the real problem?
[09:04] <starkiller> so if my system fails i dont have to  costumise and get all the programs lol
[09:05] <dr_willis> so copy  the stuff to your UbuntuOne account..
[09:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> starkiller: ah. well you can do backups, or there is a cloning technique
[09:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> !clone | starkiller
[09:07] <starkiller> wow thanks ubottu XD sonds  to pro for me but ill try it lol
[09:07] <dr_willis> it just makes a text file with a list of your installed apps...
[09:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> !bot
[09:07] <dr_willis> it dosent backup your apps... just a list of whats insstalled
[09:08] <starkiller> lol tht sounds even better doctor wills:P
[09:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: d'ya think you can have this executed every 24hours or so? just in case of emergency, like
[09:09] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  would seem rather pointless. ;)
[09:09] <dr_willis> i tend to know  what apps i want installed on a clean install
[09:10] <dr_willis> and i beta tet so much stuff - that a list like the above would reinstall tons of junk i might only have used once
[09:10] <EnriqueMoreno> Hi guys. Can someone please help me get the audio coming through my line-in to my speakers?
[09:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: if its written into my dropbox folder it would be available in the event of a horrid accident. I don't, I tend to remember stuff from old installs as I attempt to use them, lol
[09:10] <dr_willis> EnriqueMoreno:  start by seeing if you can record line in audio?
[09:11] <starkiller> thanks guys you are so helpful ill see u laters:P
[09:11] <EnriqueMoreno> dr_willis, how can I see that?
[09:11] <dr_willis> EnriqueMoreno:  theres a sound recorder app i  belive.
[09:11] <dr_willis> ive not used line in sound - in years
[09:12] <EnriqueMoreno> os I just plug the mic in line in, and record it?
[09:12] <dr_willis> and with the smart-sensing jacks many  sound cards use.. the system may  not even be seeing the line in as a line in
[09:12] <dr_willis> a  MIC in - is differnt from a LINE in.. i belive
[09:13] <oliverp> EXT4-fs (dm-3): bad geometry: block count 183109840 exceeds size of device (183109760 blocks)
[09:13] <oliverp> Is it safe to run resize2fs /dev/mapper/disk1 ?
[09:13] <dr_willis> see if you can record from the mic in also.
[09:14] <EnriqueMoreno> the mic in works all right
[09:14] <juggle> hi
[09:14] <juggle> how to take the screen shot of the active page on ubuntu ?
[09:14] <juggle> i am trying alt + prtSc but its not working
[09:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> juggle: are you sure? check your ~/Pictures/
[09:15] <juggle> ok i will check
[09:17] <juggle> i tried alt + prtSc but there is no file in ~/Pictures/
[09:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> juggle: did you try just prtsc?
[09:17] <juggle> no i tried alt + prtsc
[09:18] <juggle> to take active page printscreen
[09:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> try it alone
[09:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, that trick.
[09:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> juggle: are you using unity? methinks the dash interferes with it...
[09:18] <juggle> yes i am using unity.
[09:19] <juggle> when i use alt + prtSc i heard a sound like doh
[09:19] <juggle> but there is no any file
[09:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> juggle: try re-assigning the keycut, or use scrot and manually crop
[09:20]  * ntzrmtthihu777 brb bio
[09:21] <juggle> ok ,thank you
[09:24] <dr_willis> it gets scary the many  ways the alt and ctrl and super keys get used for so many tasks. ;)
[09:24] <dr_willis> wonder if somthing is grabbing the alt-key
[09:25] <peawormsworth> why would this print anything?
[09:25] <peawormsworth> if [[ 5 > 1000 ]]; then
[09:25] <peawormsworth>   echo "5 is larger then 1000"
[09:25] <peawormsworth> fi;
[09:25] <nocturnal_> how can i remove an nvidia driver i installed from their site?
[09:25] <peawormsworth> I assume it is doing text comparison. How do I force integer compare?
[09:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> peawormsworth: because its true?
[09:25] <ikonia> nocturnal_: you need to remove the modules, there is an uninstall option in the binary package, but I don't have confidence it works %100 of the time
[09:26] <dr_willis> peawormsworth:   i  thought bash used   eq snd other 'tests' not >  for numers
[09:26] <dr_willis> numbers
[09:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: actually you can use > just as easily
[09:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> peawormsworth: all joking aside, methinks you got it formatted wrong.
[09:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> if test
[09:26] <ikonia> nocturnal_: while it's not what you want to hear, it's really one of the core reasons to depend on package managers
[09:26] <ntzrmtthihu777>   echo
[09:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> fi
[09:26] <dr_willis> i rarelyu bash these days. ;)  i just r3ecall bash  needing sme extra work with  numbers
[09:27] <peawormsworth> this site says ">" works on string and numeric, but doesnt specify how to force it: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/comparison-ops.html
[09:27] <peawormsworth> it seems like bash should assume numbers in the above case unless I quote one of them.
[09:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> peawormsworth: best bash site ever http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[09:27] <dr_willis> dont assume bash  assumes
[09:28] <nocturnal_> ikonia: it's a .run file
[09:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> /bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: "else" unexpected (expecting "then")
[09:28] <ikonia> nocturnal_: yes, I know that, that's the binary package I referenced
[09:28] <bekks> nocturnal_: Their readme should tell you all you need to know.
[09:28] <dr_willis> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/comparison-ops.html
[09:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> /bin/sh: 1: [[: not found
[09:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> what the heck
[09:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> test false
[09:28] <dr_willis> you are using sh not bash
[09:28] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: maybe take this to #bash ?
[09:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> :/ dang, the in-irc thing works in sh.
[09:29] <ferronica> need help regarding Geary Mail getting, not able to sync yahoo mail and not unable to add GMAIL or any other new other mail account error: Error in connection
[09:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: no need, I solved my problem, just curious about peawormsworth's query
[09:29] <peawormsworth> dr_willis: You were right. I should use "-gt" instead of ">" which is exactly opposite of how perl does it.
[09:30] <ikillcypher> Hi Guys
[09:30] <ikillcypher> Im unable to mount my USB
[09:30] <llutz> ntzrmtthihu777: you see the difference between "/bin/sh" and bash?
[09:30] <peawormsworth> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks for the bash link.
[09:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: why you trying to mount it, exactly?
[09:30] <ikillcypher> to install windows ISO using unetbootin
[09:30] <dr_willis> peawormsworth:  i notice the examples in the abs guide also  " " everything it seems
[09:31] <ikillcypher> Im getting something to run chkdsk in windows
[09:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: and it should be a simple as opening it in your file browser.
[09:31] <ikillcypher> but  I dont have windows and Im on Ubuntu
[09:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: again, why you need windows? you said C#, details?
[09:31] <ikonia> ikillcypher: that's normally down to an unclean removal from windows
[09:32] <ikillcypher> ntzrmtthihu777, I need it for alot of reasons
[09:32] <ikonia> ikillcypher: the best way to resolve it, its to boot into windows, run chkdisk - and return to ubuntu with a clean disk
[09:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: he has no windows machine to use.
[09:32] <ikonia> ikillcypher: there are other options but that is the most "official" response
[09:33] <ikonia> then you need to use one of the less official tricks to mark the disk as clean
[09:33] <ikonia> being aware of the risks they can have
[09:34] <meet> is there any way to customize the notifications? I mean I am not able to even click them or hide them.
[09:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikillcypher: there are ways to make a bootable win$ usb in linux, and vice versa, but all entail a bit of risk. the native tools work best on the os they were created on and installs.
[09:35] <EnriqueMoreno> Hi guys. Can someone please help me get the audio coming through my line-in to my speakers?
[09:37] <dr_willis> he could just reformat the usb flash drive
[09:38] <Ritchie> hello everyone! could somebody help me with a startup srcipt? it solved my video issue in skype but I always have to start skype via terminal with the script. how do i make this permanent in skype that it starts with these options?
[09:38] <dr_willis> Ritchie:  you could make a start_skype.sh  script and run it that way
[09:38] <dr_willis> and make a launcher for the start_skype.sh
[09:39] <dr_willis> or alter the existing skype.desktop  file to  run the script
[09:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | meet
[09:42] <Ritchie> dr_willis, thank you for your help, it was an early joy it seems, because skype always asks to accept the terms everytime I start it, so there must be some other solution to find
[09:42] <Ritchie> :)
[09:42] <Guest72439> hi everyone...does any one know how set https proxy in ubuntu?
[09:43] <emor> hi everyone...does any one know how set https proxy in ubuntu?
[09:43] <Seveas> emor: in the System Settings, click on Network. Then on network proxy.
[09:43] <Seveas> That sets it for gnome-y applications, not for apt though
[09:44]  * Pataa Paul McCartney- Hope of Deliverance [03:59]
[09:45] <emor> seveas:tnx for your replying i know but i have socks account aand i want to use myy password and username to connect with
[09:45] <emor> seveas: i want set it to firefox
[09:45] <HerbertWest> Hi, I would like to know how to join to ubuntu development.
[09:45] <Seveas> emor: edit -> preferences -> advanced. Topmost 'Settings' button
[09:46] <Seveas> emor: username/password will be asked for the first time firefox needs them
[09:46] <emor> seveas: do u worl with proxifire in windows?
[09:46] <Seveas> !development | HerbertWest
[09:46] <emor> work
[09:47] <Seveas> emor: this is not a windows support channel.
[09:47] <emor> iseveas: i know i want program like proxifire windows but in ubuntu
[09:47] <HerbertWest> Seveas ubottu Done! TY FYI
[09:48] <bekks> emor: Dont expect anyone in here to know a specific windows application.
[09:48] <Seveas> what does proxifire do?
[09:49] <emor> seveas: its set proxy with https protocol and set it to all applications.. with user and passwor
[09:51] <Seveas> emor: that'd be a good thing to have, but there is no such thing yet and there probably won't be: application developers are instead encouraged to use the proxy settings as set by the gnome tools or in the environment.
[09:53] <ATHF> Hi. I keep getting messages "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.10 has experienced an internal error - send an error report to help fix this problem" Like... non-stop, to the point that I just have to move to another desktop and ignore them
[09:53] <emor> seveas: can i use the https with network settings and use my user and password and open site with firefox through that proxy?
[09:53] <ATHF> Is there a way to disable these messages or make them less obtrusive?
[09:54] <GentSir> ATHF, stop using Unity
[09:55] <emor> seveas: do you know what proxy chains program and how it works?can this help me in this ?
[09:58] <Seveas> ATHF: these messages are generated by apport, you can remove apport to stop the messages from appearing.
[10:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Seveas: interesting... I like some of the messages, but most are an annoyance. can you configure apport?
[10:01] <meet> ntzrmtthihu777, any solutions for my question? btw i did not repeat my question.. what was that about
[10:03] <emor> seveas: i used network settings to set proxy... every thing is ok but i cant use it in firefox...any solution?
[10:04] <Seveas> emor: I gave instructions for firefox above.
[10:04] <Seveas> ntzrmtthihu777: no, apport is an all or nothing deal
[10:04] <emor> seveas: its dont have https...it have http and socks
[10:06] <neroes> can someone help me with installing an MSI digivox trio
[10:06] <bekks> neroes: What is it?
[10:06] <neroes> and DVB tuner
[10:06] <neroes> tv tuner
[10:06] <emor> seveas:my server is us-https1.behvpn.pro
[10:07] <emor> seaves: in firefox network settings where should i put it?
[10:08] <ferronica> RICOH Aficio SP 1200S supported by elementaryOS
[10:08] <bekks> emor: In the proxy field.
[10:08] <emor> bekks: http  or socks?
[10:09] <emor> bekks:its dont have https
[10:11] <bekks> There IS a field SSL proxy, and there is a checkbox "use this proxy server for all protocols" directly under the HTTP proxy field.
[10:12] <bekks> emor: So why dont you had the idea to insert your proxy in the http proxy field and check that checkbox?
[10:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> meet: actually you did. but no.
[10:13] <meet> did I post the question twice by mistake? sorry for that
[10:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Seveas: that sucks :/
[10:14] <emor> bekks:sorry for bothered u...its workeddd,:)
[10:14] <emor> bekks: thanks
[10:15] <bekks> emor: You could have tried almost all possibilities in that dialog window within a minute :)
[10:16] <emor> bekks: im new in linux:) i didnt notice that check box:) its my first time to do this... im sorry:)
[10:17] <bekks> emor: Actually, I just looked up that dialog settings on a windows box. :)
[10:18] <emor>  bekks:ok:)
[10:19] <emor> bekks: do you know instant messenger to share photo?
[10:19] <emor> bekks:like yahoo messenger in windows:)
[10:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: skype
[10:21] <linse> vsee
[10:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> and you may be able to configure telepathy to do it.
[10:21] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777 : it cant connect yahoo account..can it?
[10:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: skype? or telepathy?
[10:22] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777: both
[10:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> erm, not telepathy, gwibber was it?
[10:22] <neroes> so can anyone help me install an "MSI digivox trio" a DVB tuner
[10:22] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777:pidgin or empathy...cant this help?
[10:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: likely, do a google search for pidgin or empathy plus yahoo
[10:24] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777:tnx i will
[10:26] <emor> i have windows in my hard drive....i want it dual booted with ubuntu can i do that?
[10:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: easily
[10:27] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777: sorry:) i have many problem with this ubuntu
[10:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: personal opinion here, but I highly reccomend using 12.04.2 && not unity.
[10:27] <neroes> emor: there is even a guide on how to on ubuntus site http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[10:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: and if you like i can walk you through it
[10:28] <emor> neroes: i have ubuntu installed in my computer
[10:28] <emor> but windows is not comes up
[10:29] <emor> i mean its not in dual boot that i can choose between ubuntu and windows
[10:29] <neroe5> emor: so you want the boot menu
[10:29] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777:tnx i will very thankful
 yes
[10:30] <emor> i want choose between them
automaticlly ubuntu comes up
 are they installed on same drive?
[10:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> neroe5: no install, yet. methinks he is running from live disc
 no i create partition swap root boot
[10:33] <fredrik__> When I try to install Skype, it says that Wherever you re, whereever they are (Skype) first must be removed. How do I do that?
 otherwise this should do the trick
 forgot the link http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-with-windows
[10:34] <emor> neroe5: no i used something else then free up 50 gig and then create 3 partition
[10:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> fredrik__: how are you trying to install it?
[10:35] <emor> its not in same drive
[10:36] <freshmint> hi recently my system updated to kernel 3.2.0-39-generic-pae ubuntu lts 12.04 i had lots of problems with display freezings and like to downgrade to 3.2.0-38-generic-pae the booting option is still available in the boot menu but i like it to automatically boot with the 38 kernel, how can i do that
[10:36] <fredrik__> With the central
[10:36] <emor> neroe5:should i go in that site?
[10:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fenaralan: what do you mean central?
[10:37] <dell> freshmint: Copy that entry to upper part of /boot/grub/grub.cfg file
[10:37] <fredrik__> Ubuntu Software centre
[10:37] <neroe5> emor: it contains a guide on how to install ubuntu alongside windows, which is what you want i take it
[10:38] <fredrik__> I have the Swedish version so I had to check for the English name. :)
[10:38] <emor> neroe5:u right but its done in windows....i dont have windows...it not boot up. if i want to do that i should reinstall windows and then install ubuntu again.i dont wanna do that..
[10:39] <neroe5> so you have to setup a boot manager
[10:39] <emor> how
[10:40] <bmxscott1993> good morning
[10:41] <fredrik__> I first installed it with the software centre, but it wouldnt start after that. So I tried the terminal. Now I want to do a fresh install and try again.
 are you in linux or windows right now
[10:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> fredrik__: sudo apt-get purge skype, then sudo apt-get install skype
[10:42] <emor> neroe5:linux...i have windows but its not comes up ..
[10:42] <emor> i am in linux now
[10:42] <bmxscott1993> im bmxscott as well
[10:42] <bmxscott1993> signed in on my phone
[10:44] <fredrik__> ntzrmtthihu777> Thank you! :)
 i'm still very new to ubuntu but you should be able to boot on your windows installation bychanging you boot device in your bios or boot device list
[10:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> fredrik__: sudo apt-get install and forget about Ubuntu Software center =_= thing is heck.
[10:45] <somsip> fredrik__: make sure that purge gets rid of ~/.Skype too
[10:45] <bmxscott> Can some one tell me how to get my input to go output on my jacks
[10:45] <neroe5> i'm not quite sure about how to get a boot manager in what you have
[10:45] <bmxscott> on ubuntu
[10:46] <emor> neroe5 : i cant i use my windows cd to repaire start up bot its cant helped
[10:47] <fredrik__> Thanks for the tip. I will try to study the terminal.
[10:47] <neroe5> emor: say what
[10:47] <neroe5> emor: can't you use it or does it not work?
[10:47] <emor> neroe5 : its came with dont send! i didnt see like it
 : no it doesnt worked
[10:48] <arios> ?
[10:51] <neroe5> emor: have you tried to change your boot prority to make the windows partition higher than your linux partition that should make you boot up in windows
[10:51] <neroe5> emor: i have to run now
[10:51] <bmxscott1993> how got the new tomb raider
[10:52] <emor> neroes5: where should i do that?? i cant find anything like that...its not detect windows at all!
 : ok tnx for ur help;0
[10:52] <emor> ;)
[10:53] <bmxscott1993> my grub screen just purple and got static help i have to gest every time i go on it i have to his up load of time to make shore im on ubuntu
[10:54] <emor> what is grup screen?
[10:55] <bmxscott1993> my grub screen just purple and got static help i have to gest every time i go on it i have to his up load of time to make shore im on ubuntu
[10:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: grub screen, its the bootloader used by linux, and it loads windows in dual boot systems
[10:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | bmxscott1993
[10:56] <meet> Hi. I have a dell N5110 system. I installed 12.04. But I am not getting any touch scroll options in the settings menu for mouse. Also, I tried the instructions given here: http://goo.gl/B2snx which had once worked for me on elementary OS based on 12.04. but it's not working for me now. what can I do?
[10:57] <bmxscott1993> ok thank for helping im in the right derecshon
how can i use that?
[10:58] <dell> meet: I also have N4110, I don't have any problem at all.
i asked my question in this site http://askubuntu.com/questions/271467/how-to-dual-boot-the-ubuntu-and-windows-7-againafter-install-ubuntu
 can u explain the solution that he said in that site?
[11:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: its pretty simple if you are used to ubuntu, but for a noobie its a bit much. have you ever used cmd.exe in windows?
[11:02] <emor> yes
[11:02] <guina> ubuntu-br
   yes
[11:03] <meet> dell: i got n5110. btw did it work out of the box?
  its not worked in my terminal.... can u test it and tell me resault?
[11:04] <dell> meet: Yes no problem at all.
[11:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: I've done it a time or two, are you connected to the internet on said machine?
  yes im connected to ethernet now
[11:05] <bekks> emor: Neither I am using yahoo, not instant messaging, I'm living in 2013, not the 90s :) Sorry, I havent used instant messaging for a decade now.
[11:06] <emor> bekks: ok thanks:)
[11:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: ok, what, *exactly* are you typing into terminal?
 i copy paste it.... i will paste it  paste.ubuntu
[11:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: ok.
[11:07] <TomaszKapler> Which ubuntu version would be best for an external hard disk?
[11:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> TomaszKapler: for using an external hard disc or being installed to it? either way the answer is the same: any currently supported version.
[11:08] <bekks> TomaszKapler: Doesnt matter.
[11:08] <EnriqueMoreno> Hi guys. When I run "alsamixer" I cant seen the line-in. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5639742/
[11:09] <emor> it says connect internet but iam connect know
[11:09] <emor> now
[11:10] <dell> meet: May be you could try by installing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-quantal and other dev packages. Search synaptic in "Synaptic package manager and see"
[11:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> should be no problem, if you are online...
[11:10] <bekks> emor: Why do you want to install boot-repair?
[11:10] <TomaszKapler> OK thanks!  I am in a crisis situation, ubuntu keeps telling me there is less and less space on the drive it is using, windows has crashed irreperably i need to do something.
[11:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: he cannot boot his windows, methinks.
[11:10] <emor> bekks:http://askubuntu.com/questions/271467/how-to-dual-boot-the-ubuntu-and-windows-7-againafter-install-ubuntu
[11:10] <emor> bekks:its my question
 i use proxy can it cause that errore?
[11:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: maybe. save yourself some time, type ntz then tab when talking to me
[11:18] <TomaszKapler> I am using ubuntu 10, it keeps prompting me to upgrade but there is no space.  Can I upgrade but install on  the large partition?
[11:18] <jrib> TomaszKapler: you could backup and then do a fresh install
[11:18] <mohammad> bekks:  any suggestion?
[11:20] <TomaszKapler> jrib: ideally yes but I face a few obstacles and need to make sure i don't screw up.  i want to rid this machine of windows altogether.
[11:20] <jrib> TomaszKapler: what obstacles?
[11:21] <TomaszKapler> no blank dvd to make a boot disc - unless i only need a cd
[11:22] <jrib> TomaszKapler: 12.04 should fit on a cd iirc.  12.10 won't unless you use minimal (and then packages will get downloaded during install)
[11:22] <TomaszKapler> jrib: so I was thinking it may be better to have an external bootable ubuntu hard disk
[11:22] <TomaszKapler> jrib: ok i will try - thanks.
[11:23] <num7> hi, is it save to logout via "gnome-session-quit --force-logout" ? or is it possible that any data get lost? I want to find a short why to logout of the gui via the cli
[11:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> num7: easily done. ctrl+alt+f1
[11:25] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777>:that command worked...
[11:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> or isn't there a backspace hotkey?
[11:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: then do the next one.
[11:26] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777> after doing that what should i do?
[11:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> what have you done so far? add the ppa, update, install?
[11:26] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777> i mean when i did all of it
[11:27] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777> im in update
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> run boot-repair
[11:27] <num7> ntzrmtthihu777: hm, ctrl+alt+f1 just open the tty1
[11:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> rather, sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[11:27] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777> yes im installing it
[11:28] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777> its done
[11:28] <TomaszKapler> Alright, I am totally clearing my machine for the first time since it was bought in 2009.  Using Ubuntu as primary system for the first time.  Very much look forward to contributing once I have a working handle on the apps I need.
[11:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> num7: isnt that what you wanted? there is another hotkey involving backspace that will drop you straight to tty in the current session.
[11:29] <emor> ntzrmtthihu777> i enter boot-repair and its application open up what should i do now?
[11:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: just run boot-repair and use the default option, that should do the trick
[11:30] <cfhowlett> Since you only want me for my green card ... :)
[11:30] <cfhowlett> ... sorry.  ignore.
[11:31] <emor> martyplummer : is  when i do that windows will show in boot list?
[11:31] <Guest30467> huh
[11:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> strange
[11:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> emor: when you start your pc it should give you an option to start windows now
 i didn't change anything i just apply it  and then it says boot successfully is that right?
[11:34] <EnriqueMoreno> When I press "M" in "alsamixer", mute isnt working. Anyone can tell me why?
[11:37] <Kurza> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on an old machine via wubi, but I'm stuck as it says that I need 256MB ram (I have 223 or sth). I don't need GUI (I'll use it for a server), can I just skip the message and install it? And if no, is there any small edition of wubi that's going to install the server version?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Kurza, on it's BEST day, wubi is a testing platform to see if you like Ubuntu.  If you don't meet the minimum requirements, expect unforeseen consequences
[11:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> EmLeX: should be fine.
[11:39] <Kurza> cfhowlett, aham thanks
[11:42] <darrell> anyone online
[11:42] <cfhowlett> darrell, only a few thousand of us today ...
[11:43] <TomaszKapler> #help
[11:44] <cfhowlett> TomaszKapler, what do you need help with ... details ...
[11:44] <TomaszKapler> ha ha, command interface?
[11:44] <TomaszKapler> ?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> !details|TomaszKapler,
[11:45] <turkce> i have
[11:45] <turkce> problem
[11:45] <turkce> dovecot not runnig
[11:47] <turkce> türkçe deskten
[11:47] <turkce> türkçe desktek lazm
[11:47] <cfhowlett> !tk
[11:47] <turkce> !tk
[11:47] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-tk
[11:47] <TomaszKapler> After a little more research, I think I'm going with Poseidon "distro"
[11:48] <auronandace> !turkey | turkce
[11:48] <turkce>  !turkey | turkce
[11:49] <turkce> !turkey
[11:59] <EmLeX> ntzrmtthihu777: ?
[12:08] <mattho2> is there any better screen manager for xubuntu 12.10?
[12:08] <tMH-> hello *. ppl, I was needed to resize /dev/sda1 on vmware, added free space, removed swap, then reallocated space and then created swap again. now I see that the original disk (which wasn't touched for backup reasons) have not the same structure as my new disk.
[12:09] <tMH-> backup disk have /dev/sda1 ext4, /dev/sda2 extended and /dev/sda5 swap on it.
[12:09] <tMH-> my new disk now have /dev/sdb1 with ext4 and /dev/sdb2 with swap
[12:09] <tMH-> is it ok?
[12:10] <tMH-> (when backup disk is only one installed on system it has /dev/sda scheme naming, of course)
[12:12] <EmLeX> tMH-: should be fine if you use udid`s and not names in your fstab
[12:12] <Engin> how come some part of the file system become read-only after an upgrade ?
[12:13] <Engin> any idea ? /var/lib /var/log are the ones I noticed to be read-only
[12:13] <Engin> mysql stopped working
[12:13] <Engin> it turns out my entire root is readonly right now
[12:14] <Engin> /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> EmLeX: yes?
[12:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> Engin: isn't that a good thing?
[12:14] <EmLeX> ntzrmtthihu777: u hilighted me 30 min ago
[12:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> in general?
[12:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> EmLeX: ah, my bad. was aming at another e name.
[12:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> *aiming
[12:15] <EmLeX> ah k.
[12:15] <Engin> root@localhost:~# mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda2
[12:15] <Engin> mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sda2 read-write, is write-protected
[12:15] <Engin> my entire system is collapsed
[12:19] <Engin> looks like hdd is failed and kernel remounted it readonly
[12:19] <bmxscott1993> where can i get themes from
[12:20] <lollus_88> ciaoo
[12:20] <EmLeX> bmxscott1993: try ubuntuthemes.com
[12:21] <bmxscott1993> and how do i install themes
[12:21] <uvala> being a long-time claws-mail user, something new happened when I reinstalled it; now while sending a message it fails with this error message; http://troll.ws/image/ef00301c
[12:22] <EmLeX> bmxscott1993: http://www.ubuntuthemes.org/how-to-install-theme.html
[12:22] <bmxscott1993> ok thank
[12:22] <uvala> I tested it between own mail adresses which are not encrypted, still the same message comes
[12:22] <Cool340> Hi
[12:30] <pyrobisqit> how can I run /usr/bin/foo on a screen with the name foobar?
[12:31] <joey8> Hi all, I have a NASTY in my computer somewhere. When I ever I click a LINK in FireFox it takes me to a spam-site instead of where it is supposed to go. Any advice at all - maybe remove firefox and install it again? - ANYBODY got any ideas please ****
[12:31] <jrtappers> Is there a good media player with uPnP as simple to use as WMC?
[12:31] <jrtappers> joey8, hosts file?
[12:31] <pyrobisqit> jrtappers, XBMC
[12:31] <jrib> joey8: create a new profile in firefox
[12:31] <joey8> jrib➤  ok thanx
[12:31] <joey8> jrtappers➤ not sure what you mean mate
[12:32] <jrtappers> pyrobisqit, Full screen on a two screen setup makes XBMC clone
[12:32] <pyrobisqit> jrtappers, windowed mode
[12:33] <Eriko> hola
[12:33] <Eriko> mimecar
[12:34] <jrtappers> pyrobisqit, is there a way to have it in fullscreen on one screen?
[12:35] <pyrobisqit> jr-windows, fake fullscreen by maximizing the window so that it fits the screen entirely
[12:38] <jrtappers> pyrobisqit, It still has the top bar, but looks good
[12:39] <pyrobisqit> jrtappers,  depending on your current WM, you might be able to remove the window frames altogether
[12:43] <harry> can some 1 help me to install play desk
[12:43] <Guest87743> totally new to ubuntu
[12:43] <Guest87743> i tried the instructions, getting error messages
[12:44] <Guest87743> helo
[12:53] <Herakles> Hi, i get a general question regarding the Sudo-command in Ubuntu....
[13:00] <Herakles> is any body selling old Linux Documentation..., or knows where to find ?
[13:00] <Herakles> where to buy...
[13:01] <lousygarua> Herakles, what do you need it for?
[13:01] <lousygarua> Herakles, you are talking about a physical medium such as a book or paper?
[13:01] <ikonia> old linux documentation ?
[13:01] <Kurza> why would you need an old documentation
[13:01] <ikonia> Herakles: you know this is #ubuntu - a technical support channel for the Ubuntu Linux distribution ?
[13:02] <lousygarua> Herakles, the open source world is ever-changing. Documentation of the past is no longer relevant in the present.
[13:03] <lousygarua> Herakles, that's why you should search the web.
[13:03] <lousygarua> Herakles, now what is your Ubuntu problem? Otherwise please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:04] <joey8> jrib➤ hi jrib, just for your info, creating a new profile does not work, thanx anyway, peace.
[13:04] <joey8> Hi all, I have a NASTY in my computer somewhere. When I ever I click a LINK in FireFox it takes me to a spam-site instead of where it is supposed to go. Any advice at all - maybe remove firefox and install it again? - ANYBODY got any ideas please ****
[13:04] <jrib> joey8: rename ~/.mozilla
[13:05] <joey8> ok will i have to reinstall
[13:05] <jrib> joey8: what?
[13:05] <joey8> firefox
[13:05] <jrib> joey8: have you renamed ~/.mozilla?
[13:05] <joey8> not yet
[13:06] <joey8> just looking up how to do that #
[13:06] <jrib> joey8: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
[13:06] <joey8> ok thanx
[13:06] <joey8> ah mover of couirse
[13:06] <joey8> ah move - of course
[13:07] <Seveas> joey8: please close firefox *before* doing that
[13:07] <joey8> ok dokey
[13:07] <ubukou> hello folks
[13:07] <NotSoSimple_> hello
[13:08] <ubukou> anyone using dual screen setup here? im having trouble keep flash players full screen when it is not on focus
[13:08] <ubukou> i mean
[13:08] <xcvt01> hello friend how are you
[13:08] <ubukou> when i change the window focus it gets back to window mode
[13:09] <ubukou> good xcvt01 thanks
[13:09] <Seveas> ubukou: you mean full screen youtube and the likes? Yeah, that's a "feature" of youtube, not an Ubuntu bug.
[13:09] <NotSoSimple_> hello xcv, I am new to ubuntu
[13:09] <ubukou> yea.. youtube and the works Seveas
[13:09] <ubukou> Seveas, so  there is not a fix??
[13:10] <Seveas> ubukou: none that I know of. Of course I do not know everything :)
[13:10] <ubukou> Seveas, no one does mate dont take it hardly..
[13:11] <NotSoSimple_> how can I escape of messages of who joined chanel and who leaved?
[13:11] <ubukou> anyone else? any insights?
[13:11] <pmitros> Did Ubuntu have any updates in the past couple of months which may have regenerated ssh host keys?
[13:11] <NotSoSimple_> it makes hard to follow the discussion
[13:11] <jrib> ubukou: here's the windows fix: http://lifehacker.com/5419028/keep-flash-videos-in-full-screen-on-dual-monitors now just figure out what they do and do the same in ubuntu?
[13:11] <ubukou> vlc is able to stay on full screen.. windows seems to be able to hold fullscreen
[13:11] <Seveas> NotSoSimple_: xchat?
[13:11] <pmitros> I'm seeing a funny ssh error message ("Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!") about host key changes.
[13:12] <ikonia> ubukou: vlc is not flash
[13:12] <ubukou> jrib, windows seems to do well
[13:12] <jrib> ubukou: more info: http://lifehacker.com/5560912/keep-flash-101-in-full-screen-on-a-second-monitor this is probably mostly useless to you but might give you a starting point
[13:12] <ikonia> pmitros: it's normally a reverse dns lookup problem
[13:12] <NotSoSimple_> I am in windows XP now
[13:12] <ubukou> jrib, ill try and make it work
[13:12] <ubukou> jrib, thanks
[13:13] <Seveas> NotSoSimple_: oh, you're using the webchat. I don't think it has an option to ignore those
[13:13] <NotSoSimple_> ok, than I will try to focus
[13:13] <NotSoSimple_> 1st time in ubuntu chat
[13:13] <NotSoSimple_> I installed ubuntu 10.4
[13:13] <jrib> ubukou: likely more relevant: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/ubuntu-multi-monitor-tweaks-full-screen.html
[13:13] <pmitros> ikonia: In this case, it says host key has changed (rather than non-existent). Accessing the machine via HTTP shows the right machine.
[13:14] <ikonia> pmitros: ok - so has the host key changed ?
[13:14] <NotSoSimple_> and can't log in to internet; very frustrating:D
[13:14] <pmitros> ikonia: Not that I'm aware of -- unless an apt-get update/upgrade did it, it should not have changed.
[13:15] <Seveas> NotSoSimple_: 10.04 is almost three years old. Please try a newer version, such as 12.10
[13:15] <ikonia> pmitros: either a.) the host key has changed b.) someone has a man in the middle box acting as an explot. Which seems more likely ?
[13:15] <NotSoSimple_> I made the "sudo pppoeconf" but still not connect
[13:15] <pmitros> ikonia: That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out.
[13:15] <Seveas> pmitros: was the machine reinstalled by any chance?
[13:15] <Seveas> Or was the hostname moved to a different machine?
[13:15] <ikonia> pmitros: so checking the host keys time stamps....seems a good idea
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:16] <pmitros> ikonia: I did not run any ssh key-gens or similar myself. I did do many updates/upgrades
[13:16] <Seveas> hello BluesKaj
[13:16] <pmitros> Seveas: Machine is same as it was for years, again, with the exception of updates/upgrades.
[13:16] <ikonia> pmitros: they can auto generate depending on your setup
[13:16] <BluesKaj> hi Seveas
[13:16] <onixx> hello all, I have a question in regards to live CD persistence. I currently have pxe netboot over nfs working. I'd like to "save my changes" to a local casper-rw file. I have added persistent in my append line on the pxe server config but without success
[13:16] <uvala> being a long-time claws-mail user, something new happened when I reinstalled it; now while sending a message it fails with this error message; http://troll.ws/image/ef00301c
[13:16] <ikonia> pmitros: checking the time stamps on the host keys may give you confidence
[13:16] <Seveas> ikonia: no, ssh keys don't auto-regenerate. pmitros can you pastebin the full error?
[13:16] <ikonia> Seveas: there is an expire setting on host keys
[13:16] <ikonia> Seveas: that can have the same error
[13:17] <onixx> it seems you can't nfs boot + persistent on usb at the same time
[13:17] <NotSoSimple_> I can't use ubuntu 12.10 cos I have only 256 RAM
[13:17] <Seveas> ikonia: where's the documentation for that? Never heard of it
[13:17] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: you also can't use 10.04
[13:17] <ikonia> Seveas: hang on, i'll see if I can pull the info
[13:18] <NotSoSimple_>  could install it
[13:18] <Seveas> NotSoSimple_: get a newer computer or use something like puppy linux. Ubuntu is not meant for computers made in the last century.
[13:18] <NotSoSimple_> and they say it can be used with 256 RAM
[13:18] <NotSoSimple_> :D
[13:18] <NotSoSimple_> it has a celeron at 3 MHZ
[13:18] <jrib> NotSoSimple_: try lubuntu?
[13:18] <NotSoSimple_> not so old
[13:18] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: you won't be able to use ubuntu on that
[13:18] <pmitros> http://pastebin.com/wrNuiA1R (changed machine to machine.org and IP to something bogus)
[13:18] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: it's lacking ram
[13:19] <jrib> NotSoSimple_: also, ram is fairly cheap...
[13:19] <NotSoSimple_> I installed lubuntu and ubuntu on same har disk
[13:19] <pmitros> Machine is on MITNet, which is well maintained. I am on wireless to Comcast, which I have no clue about.
[13:19] <NotSoSimple_> har=hard
[13:19] <ikonia> Seveas: solaris only ting - it's basically a script that's run as part of their security kit
[13:20] <ikonia> "thing"
[13:20] <ubukou> jrib, man that was a really cool link.. many usefull things in it.. thanks..
[13:20] <Seveas> ikonia: ah, that explains why i never heard of it, only used solaris as a user :)
[13:20] <cronus> pmitros, if this machine has not been updated for a while, there was an update to address a ssh key vunerability that changed the keys when installed.
[13:20] <Naruto_Xboy> hello
[13:20] <NotSoSimple_> but I have same problem in both lubuntu and ubuntu: can't connect to internet
[13:20] <jrib> ubukou: no problem, google did most of the work :)
[13:20] <sujan> what up?
[13:20] <ikonia> Seveas: it's not even a real expire, it's basically a trigger on date type event that runs a script to re-generate, so not even real expire
[13:20] <Naruto_Xboy> can someone help me
[13:20] <ubukou> jrib, i have been googling, but is seem to have used the wrong keywords.
[13:21] <Seveas> pmitros: is the IP address for machine.org correct? If so, log in cautiously and check timestamps on /etc/sshd/*
[13:21] <Naruto_Xboy> can someone help me
[13:21] <ubukou> jrib, strangely enough i have the correct flash plugin enabled. doesnt seem to work.
[13:21] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: you have to ask a question for someone to know if they can help you
[13:21] <pmitros> cronus: This machine is updated regularly, but has not been ssh'ed to in a few months, so I would not have noticed a key change
[13:21] <jrib> ubukou: iirc the site said you need to modify it, or use html5, or use some extensions
[13:21] <ikonia> pmitros: have you checked the time stamp on the host keys.....
[13:21] <pmitros> cronus: I'm Googling around right now. Do you have a pointer to the update, by chance?
[13:22]  * pmitros tries. Curious. ssh in fails. 
[13:22] <ubukou> jrib, you need to modify for any other browser except chrome/ium
[13:22] <xcvt01> what's up
[13:22] <ikonia> pmitros: you need to remove your local cached key for it to allow you in
[13:22] <cronus> pmitros, sorry, no. but it was released more that a few months ago. probably about a year.
[13:23] <ikonia> pmitros: otherwise that would defeat the object of the ssh key-chain
[13:23] <ubukou> jrib, for chrome you need to use the correct plugin.. anyway i ll google again using other keywords.
[13:23] <ubukou> jrib, thanks again
[13:23] <onixx> does somebody has good experience here on pxe booting the live CD ?
[13:23] <pmitros> ikonia: I get this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2066371
[13:23] <Naruto_Xboy> i have one laptop Asus K56CM i have install ubuntu 12.10 with bumlebee it work ok, bumlebee has turn off my nvidia Gt635M off, today im upgrade to ubuntu 13.04 :( i install new bumleebee bot work :( my laptop is very hot by nvidia card not turn off, please help me turn off this :( sory my english is bad , THank you very much , THank team
[13:24] <ikonia> pmitros: is that your error or someone elses
[13:24] <xcvt01> i'ev trie but stoop the test
[13:24] <xcvt01> because my study
[13:24] <jrib> ubukou: the site proposes two options: 1) use html5 or 2) modify the flash plugin with a hex editor
[13:24] <pmitros> ikonia: It is someone else's, but I get the same one.
[13:24] <xcvt01> try pxe
[13:24] <ubukou> jrib, hmm html5 i must have missed that.. i ll read again.
[13:24] <ikonia> pmitros: then why are you saying you get errors about host keys changing as that is nothing to do with a host key change, thats the ssh application failing
[13:25] <ikonia> pmitros: I also hope you're not ssh'ing in as root
[13:25] <onixx> xcvt01: i have pxe booting working, now I would like persistence on a usb flash drive connected to the computer
[13:25] <ubukou> jrib, ohhh the first one.
[13:25] <pmitros> ikonia: Step 1: I got ssh host key errors (as in pastebin). Step 2: Folks here advised me to clear host key and try again, and inspect remotely. I decided to try. Step 3: I got the above error.
[13:26] <ikonia> pmitros: ok, so it looks like sshd is the problem
[13:26] <ikonia> pmitros: if you get that exact error
[13:26] <ikonia> pmitros: I suspect it probably just needs a reboot after some updates.
[13:26] <ikonia> pmitros: although it could be more than that
[13:26] <jrib> pmitros: the server is ubuntu?  What version?
[13:26] <pmitros> ikonia: Now I'm concerned about a man-in-the-middle compromise.
[13:27] <alainus> hi . I'm trying to get my VPS (ubuntu 12.10 64) to have my local time , but i don't want to mess with any of the other configurations. any tips on how to do it properly ?
[13:27] <pmitros> jrib: It is Ubuntu. I am not sure about the version. I would guess around 12.04 or 12.10.
[13:27] <xcvt01> ubuntu 13.04 stiil in debuging
[13:28] <ikonia> xcvt01: what ?
[13:28] <pmitros> jrib: Or thinking about it, definitely one of those two.
[13:28] <jrib> xcvt01: 13.04 is still being developed and has not had a final release yet if that's what you are asking
[13:28] <pmitros> Probably 12.10, but possibly 12.04.
[13:28] <joey8> jrib,seveas➤ Hi guys, thanx for your input but alas I am still gettin forwarded to spam/wrong websites when I sometimes click links on my firefox pages. thanx any way, peace.
 u use slax
[13:29] <cfhowlett> joey8, happens to me all the time ... of course, I AM in China  ....
 try to remove it
[13:29] <joey8> cfhowlett➤ oh no ヅ
[13:29] <onixx> xcvt01: yes
[13:29] <ikonia> xcvt01: you're not making sense
[13:30] <joey8> Hi all, I have a NASTY in my computer somewhere. When I ever I click a LINK in FireFox it takes me to a spam-site instead of where it is supposed to go. Any advice at all - maybe remove firefox and install it again? - ANYBODY got any ideas please ****
[13:30] <ikonia> joey8: it's probably a firefox plugin or a dns problem
[13:30] <joey8> ikonia➤ thanx, yes i agree it may well be a firefox problem.
 as i think ubuntu 13.04 still in alpha version  so it's ready just for devlopers and debugger for test it ok
 it's good for office work the slax
[13:31] <Naruto_Xboy> I feel it is good, but I cannot turn off the nvidia card you can get me off it
[13:31] <ikonia> xcvt01:.....I know 13.04 is in development, hence why it doesn't make any sense what you are saying
[13:32] <Naruto_Xboy> you cat help me turn off this card nvidia my laptop have two graphic card
[13:32] <pmitros> So I guess no more ideas?
[13:32] <ikonia> pmitros: what do you mean no ideas, you've been pointed at the problem
[13:33] <NotSoSimple_> thanks ikonia! I can't see the led from the ethernet card activating as usual:it may mean that the nework card, the ethernet is the problem?!
[13:33] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: if there is no link light on, check the card/cable/switch it's plugged into
[13:33] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: the link light is normally a level above software, suggesting a hardware problem somewhere in your chain
[13:34] <NotSoSimple_> the light it is
[13:34] <NotSoSimple_> but is not blinking
[13:34] <ikonia> sorry what "the light it is" ?
[13:34] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: is the link light on or off
[13:35] <NotSoSimple_> the green light is on
[13:35] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: is your computer working on the network ?
[13:35] <NotSoSimple_> not now
[13:36] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: ok, so what have you done to debug it ?
[13:36] <Malsasa> Hello, I have a text files containing 100 blogspot.com and 50 othernames.blogspot.com. How if I wanna change matching blogspot.com into #blogspot.com with sed, and dont affect the othernames.blogspot.com? Just matching blogspot.com has to be changed. Thanks.
[13:37] <Naruto_Xboy> Laptop tôi rất nóng nó có 2 card đồ họa tích hợp 1 là intel HD4000 và nvidia GT635M, bạn có thể giúp tôi tắt GT635M
[13:37] <NotSoSimple_> I tried "sudo pppoe config"
[13:37] <NotSoSimple_> no error
[13:37] <Naruto_Xboy> My laptop is very hot it has 2 integrated graphics 1 is intel HD4000 and Nvidia GT635M, can you help me off GT635M
[13:37] <NotSoSimple_> restarted, and expected to work
[13:37] <NotSoSimple_> it doesn't
[13:38] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: check if your network card has a valid IP address, check it has a valid gateway, and valid dns servers
[13:38] <pmitros> Curious. The old ssh key was ecdsa-sha2-nistp256. The new one is ssh-rsa. Does anyone know what it would be, by default, for Ubuntu?
[13:38] <NotSoSimple_> i communicate as I have my id and password
[13:38] <NotSoSimple_> and how can I check those?!
[13:39] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: no-one asked you for any id or password
[13:39] <ikonia> pmitros: how are you conneting to the machine if you can't ssh in ?
[13:39] <NotSoSimple_> I explained how I config it
[13:39] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: yes, and I told you what to check
[13:39] <NotSoSimple_> I know it is not to communicate that
[13:39] <pmitros> ikonia: I am not connecting to it. I have ~/ssh/known_hosts, and a backup, ~/ssh/known_hosts.old
[13:39] <NotSoSimple_> but I don't kno where
[13:40] <pmitros> ikonia: I diffed the two.
[13:40] <NotSoSimple_> I know in windows, but here I don't
[13:40] <ikonia> NotSoSimple_: I don't understand what you are saying, so maybe someone else will help
[13:40] <NotSoSimple_> I don't know where to check the IP?!
[13:40] <ikonia> pmitros: ok - so you know the key has changed then
[13:40] <ikonia> pmitros: so your question is now a.) has the key changed on the host, or the middle ground
[13:41] <pmitros> ikonia: Exactly.
[13:41] <pmitros> ikonia: And if I know what the key should be going Ubuntu->Ubuntu, I will have my answer.
[13:41] <ikonia> pmitros: however as you have sshd crashing that could be on the final machine/middle machine
[13:41] <ikonia> pmitros: so your going to hit a problem
[13:41] <ikonia> pmitros: check the dns name of it matches the IP you expect
[13:41] <ikonia> pmitros: I suspect your key problem maybe related to the fact that sshd is actually crashing
[13:42] <pmitros> ikonia: If it is ecdsa-sha2-nistp256, I will know man-in-the-middle. If it is ssh-rsa, I will know the old key was bad.
[13:42] <ikonia> pmitros: you don't know that at all
[13:42] <ikonia> pmitros: hence why I'm saying you need to check the actual target machine
[13:43] <shock_one> Hi, guys. Which utility does Ubuntu (13.04) use for suspend to RAM?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|shock_one,
[13:44] <pmitros> ikonia: One possibility is that, at some point, I ssh'ed to a machine with DNS issues from where I am, many months ago.
[13:44] <shock_one> ubottu, thank you, but I think the previous version uses the same tool.
[13:45] <ikonia> pmitros: what do you mean ?
[13:45] <pmitros> ikonia: If Ubuntu does not give ecdsa-sha2-nistp256, that would be the only explanation.
[13:45] <ikonia> pmitros: no it would not be
[13:45] <ikonia> pmitros: you have a machine with sshd crashing....
[13:45] <ikonia> pmitros: you've not checked the dns->ip is correct
[13:45] <ikonia> pmitros: you've not checked the time stamps on the keys
[13:45] <pmitros> ikonia: DNS->IP is correct.
[13:45] <ikonia> pmitros: you've not got any informaiton to make a "guess" on
[13:46] <shock_one> cfhowlett, thank you, but I think the previous version uses the same tool.
[13:46] <Naruto_Xboy> hello
[13:46] <pmitros> ikonia: Do you have a way to tell me what the correct host key type for a default Ubuntu install is? ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 or ssh-rsa?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> Naruto_Xboy, greetings
[13:46] <ikonia> pmitros: I'm sorry - this is a pointless discussion, you're not listening, checking the default key type means nothing
[13:47] <uvala> what might this mean i f it appears after clicking on "send" in a mail program? http://troll.ws/image/ef00301c
[13:47] <Naruto_Xboy> hello cfhow left ;)
[13:47] <pmitros> ikonia: For what is stored in known_hosts? I believe both are generated.
[13:47] <pmitros> ikonia: I am listening. I am not agreeing. There is a difference.
[13:47] <ikonia> pmitros: ok, then there is no point in me progressing this with you
[13:48] <pmitros> ikonia: I do not have physical access to the machine right now.
[13:48] <bmxscott> Im doing what one of you side i removed the xp iso and ubuntu the reinstall ubuntu first then xp so i do not just get purple screen with static on grub screen with no righting
[13:48] <pmitros> ikonia: I could, with a trip away.
[13:48] <ikonia> pmitros: I'm not progressing this any more
[13:49] <bmxscott> will that work better
[13:50] <winux> :D
[13:51] <winux> anyone receiving my message?
[13:51] <ikonia> winux: you've not said anything apart from a pointless ":D" comment
[13:51] <Guest41806> hi
[13:51] <Capprentice> Hi is there any one who can help me with creating a custom application launcher ? I have tried this , but it wont work. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640148/
[13:51] <winux> hi ikona
[13:51] <pmitros> ikonia: You have two options when there is a disagreement. One is to assume the person you are talking to is an idiot, and discontinue the discussion. The second is to understand the source of disagreement, and to come to a consensus. At that point, one side or the other learns something.
[13:52] <ikonia> Guest41806: please don't ask if any one can help you - we don't know until you ask a question
[13:52] <ikonia> pmitros: please stop trying to engage me
[13:52] <pmitros> Fine.
[13:52] <Capprentice> ikonia,  can you see in in my paste and tell me why is not it working ? although when I use the same command from terminal it works !
[13:53] <ikonia> Capprentice: I've not been following your question, sorry
[13:53] <bmxscott> goodbye bbc center
[13:53] <ikonia> Capprentice: I'm sure the channel will help rather than asking people
[13:53] <ikonia> bmxscott: nothing to do with this channel
[13:53] <pmitros> Does anyone else know whether in an Ubuntu->Ubuntu connection, the host key will default to ssh-rsa or ecdsa-sha2-nistp256?
[13:53] <Capprentice> Ok. Anyone else knows how to put more than one args in EXEC=""  in a .desktop file ?
[13:56] <linuxuz3r> hi
[13:56] <Capprentice> Hi is there any one who can help me with creating a custom application launcher ? I have tried this , but it wont work. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640148/
[13:57] <linuxuz3r> how do you remove an app and its dependencies?
[13:57] <root__> Hello
[13:57] <Guest41806> hi
[13:58] <auronandace> linuxuz3r: sudo apt-get remove whateveritis
[13:58] <auronandace> linuxuz3r: then you can do: sudo apt-get auto-remove
[13:58] <Capprentice> ppa-purge can remove a ppa and all came from it.
[13:59] <ikonia> who said it was in a ppa ?
[13:59] <Naruto_Xboy>  nvidia problem on 13.04 beta. Who can help me
[13:59] <Capprentice> do u always need to cut off some one ! ikonia
[13:59] <ikonia> Naruto_Xboy: #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel for 13.04 discussion
[13:59] <ikonia> Capprentice: yes, if the information is not helpful/valid
[13:59] <Naruto_Xboy> ok thank ikonia ;)
[13:59] <Capprentice> How its not valid ?!!@#$#@$@
[14:00] <ikonia> Capprentice: is he using a PPA ?
[14:00] <linuxuz3r> thanks
[14:00] <Capprentice> When he told you he is not ?1
[14:00] <dveim> #ubuntu+1
[14:00] <ikonia> I didn't see him say he was trying to remove a PPA
[14:00] <Naruto_Xboy> I will switch to channel #ubuntu+1 thank ikonia
[14:01] <Capprentice> That does not conclude he is not.
[14:01] <ikonia> Capprentice: it is bad advice if he's not
[14:01] <ikonia> Capprentice: maybe find out more about the problem before dishing out advice
[14:01] <ed_> hello
[14:01] <Capprentice> All hail the genius !
[14:02] <ikonia> Capprentice: drop the smart mouth please,
[14:02] <ikonia> Capprentice: if you're going to help - offer good help, or don't bother,
[14:02] <Capprentice> You need to be more polite to ppls.
[14:02] <echo> Capprentice: off the top your .desktop seems fine, in what way is it not working?
[14:02] <ed_> i need some help!!!
[14:02] <ikonia> Capprentice: I am being polite, hence why I'm asking you to stop
[14:02] <Capprentice> echo, it wont start xvidcap
[14:03] <ed_> anybody out there?
[14:03] <ikonia> ed_: 1600+ people in the channel
[14:03] <Capprentice> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79740/xvidcap-error-accessing-sound-input-from-dev-dsp
[14:03] <echo> Capprentice: you might try giving the full pathname of xvidcap in Exec
[14:04] <echo> Capprentice: alternatively it might also be that the .desktop file needs to be marked executable
[14:04] <ed_> looking for someone to answer some stoopid 12.04 upgrade questions
[14:04] <Capprentice> I dont know where it got installed ? but putting only exec=xvidcap works
[14:04] <ikonia> ed_: just explain your problem clearly, and people will help if they can
[14:05] <echo> Capprentice: cool :)
[14:06] <Capprentice> No not cool. padsp needs to be preceded to be able to record sound. Otherwise soung wont be recorded.
[14:06] <ed_> my install went OK ; i have a separate /home partition that doesn't seem to be affected but i have no desktop, evolution, etc.... on 12.04 ????
[14:06] <echo> Capprentice: on a side note, to find out where an executable is located you may run "which name-of-executable" eg. "which xvidcap" in the terminal
[14:07] <ed_> things are not linked up so to speak....evidently bacause i did a fresh install instead of upgrade....
[14:07] <echo> Capprentice: so maybe try full path of both padsp and xvidcap
[14:07] <Capprentice> ok I will try that.
[14:09] <Guest41806> hi
[14:09] <Capprentice> which pdasp returns nothing !
[14:09] <echo> !ubottu hi
[14:09] <mohammad> what is best download manager in ubuntu?
[14:09] <Martinjo84> yafc :D
[14:09] <Capprentice> prozilla {prozgui}, flareget
[14:09] <Capprentice> mohmmad
[14:10] <k1lled> wget ?
[14:10] <k1lled> :)
[14:10] <Guest59364> wget? is that speed ok? iwant something like internet download manager in windows
[14:11] <arglbr> Hey all. I'm trying to put my HDMI audio to work. Both "sudo aplay -l" and "sudo aplay -L" shows the HDMI audio. But running them as a regular use shows no sound cards at all (you can see the output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640193/). At Pavucontrol I'm just able to see the "Dummy output" in the "Output devices" tab. I've tryed to reinstall pavucontrol, no success. Can someone take off a rabbit from the hat? The OS is XUbuntu 12.04
[14:11] <Guest43282> wget gets more than firefox for me
[14:11] <echo> Capprentice: either you mistyped (before you typed padsp, now pdasp) or the program is not properly installed
[14:11] <Guest43282> (or like that)
[14:12] <Capprentice> eek ! Mistyped
[14:12] <Guest43282> Is there any tutorial how to integrate my c++/qt app into unity/gnome? (Desktop application)
[14:12] <Guest43282> (make use of quicklist etc)
[14:12] <emor> is there another option in download managers?
[14:13] <Guest43282> for command line?
[14:13] <Capprentice> echo, thank you. it works now.
[14:13] <Guest41806> how to immgration
[14:14] <Capprentice> putting the abs path makes it work.
[14:14] <dveim> after another update, i got message "failed to idle channel 0xcccc0000" when log in
[14:14] <Guest43282> @emor  curl
[14:14] <emor> i want download manager for ubuntu...which on should i install??
[14:14] <dveim> reload helped, but it may appear again, what does this message mean?
[14:14] <IdleOne> Guest43282 take a look at developers.ubuntu.com
[14:15] <Guest43282> @emor curl, wget, steadyflow,  or for firefox FlashGot/Down them all
[14:15] <Code_Factory> Hey guys I'm hoping someone could help me with a strange problem I started facing with ubuntu 11.10
[14:16] <Code_Factory> I recently installed a bunch of apps
[14:16] <emor> <Guest43282: which one is better? like internet download manager in windows
[14:16] <Code_Factory> and now when I choose open file for some apps the file dialog freezes
[14:16] <Code_Factory> anybody know where I should start tracing the error?
[14:16] <Guest43282> @IdleOne there is quickly with Python, but I want to develop in C++ (QTCreator)
[14:16] <Guest43282> @IdleOne Is there no such template for it?
[14:17] <Guest43282> @emor I recommend DownThemAll for Firefox, since you can use it in every operating system
[14:17] <IdleOne> Guest43282: I don't know. I believe that page does mention an irc channel you can ask in
[14:17] <emor> Guest43282: how can i get that?
[14:18] <Guest41806> i dont
[14:18] <Guest43282> @emor Open firefox browser, goto >addons.mozilla.org< and search after downthemall
[14:19] <Guest43282> @IdleOne I already asked at the devel channel, but noboy cares really
[14:19] <Guest43282> nobody
[14:19] <Guest41806> i want to get ajob
[14:20] <deung> cool I want an sandwich
[14:21] <Guest43282> I didn't found anything related with c++qt and Unity
[14:23] <arglbr> Hey all. I'm trying to put my HDMI audio to work. Both "sudo aplay -l" and "sudo aplay -L" shows the HDMI audio. But running them as a regular user shows no sound cards at all (you can see the output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640193/). At Pavucontrol I'm just able to see the "Dummy output" in the "Output devices" tab. I've tryed to reinstall pavucontrol, no success. The output of pactl list is here too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640
[14:23] <Code_Factory> hey can someone point me to the error log, I'm trying to figure out why some software is freezing in certain events
[14:24] <greg_25> @arglbr amd or nvidia grahphics?
[14:25] <m3pow> Hello guys !
[14:25] <Guest41806> hi
[14:25] <m3pow> Is there some sort of desktop calendar same like in this pic : http://img.netupd8.com/my-humanity-icons.png
[14:26] <m3pow> the one that shows on the right bottom side of the desktop
[14:26] <arglbr> greg_25: Is Cedarview (GMA3650)
[14:26] <greg_25> @m3pow maybe you should check out conky
[14:26] <m3pow> on it greg_25
[14:26] <m3pow> thanks
[14:27] <arglbr> the proper driver are installed, video all OK (1080p, etc.). But no sound at all.
[14:27] <alainus> i want to install inkscape development version. how do i get what ppa repository to add looking at the list at https://code.launchpad.net/inkscape ? (it would be the first one)
[14:27] <greg_25> @arglbr: maybe googlin after  >> Cedarview (GMA 3650) ubuntu << will help you?
[14:28] <arglbr> Greg, yeah, I did it a lot to get video working properly. But now the issue is audio... no audio at all. I'm doing it right now to sound too.
[14:29] <greg_25> @alainus: development versions mostly are compiled from source  (bzr,git..)
[14:29] <OerHeks> alainus, use the stable PPA, but be carefull with PPA's, they can give issues >> https://launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/+archive/stable
[14:31] <greg_25> It seems only working with older kernel/older version of ubuntu
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> alainus  if you really want the source, use sudo apt-get source
[14:31] <greg_25> @arglbr
[14:31] <alainus> ok thanks 1
[14:31] <greg_25> @alainus: http://communities.intel.com/message/160972
[14:31] <arglbr> Yeah, that's why I've downgraded to 12.04. Seems the best version to support it.
[14:31] <greg_25> there is a complete tut
[14:32] <arglbr> And indeed is, I have no issues to get video working properly
[14:32] <greg_25> Not very ubuntu friendly card
[14:32] <greg_25>  /linux
[14:32] <arglbr> yeah, agreed.
[14:33] <greg_25> Any qt ubuntu developer here?
[14:33] <arglbr> But I invented to get a home-fuckin'-cheap video server LoL
[14:33] <ikonia> arglbr: stop with the language
[14:33] <ikonia> arglbr: it's uncalled for and not welcome
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> greg_25  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:33] <roasted> Question - is there some sort of "resync" time for the df -h command? I deleted about 100GB worth of data and a disk is still showing 97% full... as if nothing changed.
[14:34] <arglbr> ikonia, sorry
[14:34] <greg_25> @arglbr maybe take a look at raspberry pi
[14:34] <greg_25> cheap, customisable, hd and easy to get online
[14:34] <mylezzz> Had a problem with external hard drive not showing up and a couple of people suggested to update the Kernel but getting errors when I try to update it. Anyone able to take a look for me?
[14:36] <arglbr> I'm gonna see it. I'll give a try at XUbuntu, trying to put sound on it. After I'll give a shot at RaspberryPI
[14:38] <greg_25> @MonkeyDust neither in ubuntu-app-deveopers nor ubuntu-devel anybody seems to have a answer^
[14:40] <dylan> disclaimer: i am a noob, and my questions may cause your blood pressure to rise. please be tolerant. what do i need to look at to make sure my local ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS x86_64 vm is identical (or close enough) to the ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS x86_64 AMI i plan to use for deployment? My list of things i know how to check: platform (match), release (match), architecture (match), RAM, Hard disk size
[14:41] <dylan> unclear on: desktop vs server (naming conventions of vagrant boxes are inconsistent)
[14:41] <NotSoSimple_> hello
[14:41] <NotSoSimple_> I creeate a DSL connection and can't connect to it
[14:42] <dylan> don't know how to check on vagrant box: hypervisor, virtualization type, root device type
[14:43] <NotSoSimple_> what can be the cause,I put connect automatically
[14:43] <NotSoSimple_> ?
[14:43] <Guest57019> hi
[14:43] <dylan> ec2-describe-image gives me all of this information
[14:45] <dylan> i have looked into http://linux.blogs.com.np/2010/04/05/how-to-move-a-virtual-machine-from-ec2-to-virtualbox-or-kvm/ and http://church.cs.virginia.edu/genprog/index.php/Converting_an_EC2_AMI_to_a_VirtualBox_.vdi but am concerned that i might do harm to my machine because they're a little over my head
[14:45] <dylan> and more generally, i'd like to know have a list of the "nuts and bolts" for reference
[14:46] <ThinkT510> dylan: also your first article appears to be from nearly 3 years ago
[14:47] <dylan> but it seems to be credible. i've had a lot of luck with older articles, especially re: linux topics
[14:48] <ThinkT510> dylan: i'd be careful, a lot can change the further you go back
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> dylan  try #kvm or #vbox
[14:48] <dylan> certainly. that's why i'm asking you good folks for help :)
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> dylan  there's also this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[14:49] <dylan> if i did feel comfortable following those articles, i'd use the release versions specified there, then try to convert the process for newer release
[14:51] <ThinkT510> !rootirc | LWHEE
[14:51] <dylan> mvm appears to be redundant on a lot of the stuff that i'm handling with vagrant
[14:52] <dylan> kvm*
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> dylan  did you ask in #vbox or #kvm?
[14:53] <dylan> i am now
[14:55] <dylan> but i imagine that their expertise would be a little more specific to kvm which appears to be a replacement of the vm that i'm using
[14:55] <SUIyuan_1> Î¢Ð¦×ÅËµ£ºÓÐÕæÈË²»£¡£¿
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> dylan  either way, the question may be beyond the scope of this channel
[14:55] <Herakles> c-newbie is trying lerning C in Ubuntu.... but compiling a file (HelloWorld-progg) Ubuntu tells me "File not found" (#include <stdio.h)
[14:55] <dylan> at any rate, do you have any critiques, supplements, or comments to the list of items that i've put together?
[14:56] <dylan> fair enough. thought it wouldn't hurt to ask
[14:57] <somsip> Herakles: if as pasted, you're missing a > at the end of the include
[15:03] <CodyS> how do i make my computer go faster
[15:03] <CodyS> its slow
[15:03] <ThinkT510> CodyS: what are you using?
[15:04] <CodyS> Ubuntu 12.10, i am running it on a 1gb netbook
[15:04] <CodyS> ubuntu
[15:04] <klaas> you can try using lubuntu if your netbook is especially slow :D
[15:04] <ThinkT510> CodyS: 1gb ram isn't much nowadays, more ram would likely help
[15:05] <contrapunctus> Guys...any painless way to install new versions of python3-qt4 on Ubuntu Studio 12.04? :(
[15:06] <ThinkT510> !backports | contrapunctus
[15:07] <contrapunctus> Thanks, ThinkT510
[15:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> can someone tell me how to disable my touchscreen? I think its registering a constant click state, so doing things can be a pita
[15:12] <xodiak> hello
[15:13] <deung> hi
[15:13] <xodiak> installing Ubuntu 12.10 alongside Win8 and Linux Mint. I'm at the 'allocate space by dragging the divider...' thing is, I don't know if the left or right side showing allocated space is for Ubuntu install.
[15:14] <xodiak> any help would be Greatly appreciated
[15:15] <ThinkT510> xodiak: a screenshot would be helpful
[15:15] <deung> do you know gparded?
[15:15] <xodiak> Think, Yeah, I don't know if I can do a ss during an install lemme see
[15:16] <bazhang> deung, gparted; yes, whats the issue
[15:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> xodiak: i would, as a personal opinion, reccomend you not go with quantal.
[15:18] <xodiak> ntzrmtthihu777, can I ask why?
[15:18] <SonikkuAmerica> xodiak: Especially if you need a production environment
[15:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> bad experiences and the fact that precise is supported 5 years.
[15:19] <killer> hey
[15:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[15:19] <killer> anyone knows of a website traffic analyser program for ubuntu
[15:19] <killer> should be dynamic
[15:20] <xodiak> I'm mainly a Mint / Cinnamon person. But I like playing around with Ubuntu / Unity on occasion. I just sold an older ubuntu only laptop and was just going to put Ubuntu on a smaller partition to mess around.
[15:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, I did lsmod and found the likely module running my touchscreen, a few processes are using them, how can I kill them before unloading the module
[15:20] <ThinkT510> killer: i thought most of those were browser based (so doesn't really matter what os you use)
[15:20] <SonikkuAmerica> killer / ThinkT510: There's iftop
[15:20] <xodiak> what is recommended image dump lsite?
[15:20] <killer> any terminal  based
[15:21] <SonikkuAmerica> killer: iftop is terminal-based
[15:21] <ThinkT510> xodiak: imagebin.org is nice and minimal
[15:21] <xodiak> Thanks
[15:22] <killer> SonikkuAmerica: kk i will give it a try
[15:22] <killer> thanx
[15:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> hid_multitouch         13038  0
[15:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> usbhid                 47238  1 hid_multitouch
[15:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> hid                    99636  3 hidp,hid_multitouch,usbhid
[15:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> can I safely unload hid_multitouch and not scrag something up?
[15:23] <Herakles> thanks for your help somsip
[15:24] <xodiak> okay. I'm at this screen during an Ubuntu install. I'm need to know which side (left or right) is for the Ubuntu install. http://imagebin.org/251375
[15:24] <xodiak> Pardon the quality... I used a camera :\
[15:25] <l337n1nj4> Does anyone know a good website for beginners to learn how to use Terminal properly?
[15:26] <ThinkT510> !terminal | l337n1nj4
[15:26] <SonikkuAmerica> xodiak: Are you using the erase and install option / do you have an empty HDD?
[15:26] <xodiak> SonikkuAmerica, I'm installing alongside windows8 and Linux Mint
[15:27] <l337n1nj4> Thank you ubottu!
[15:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> l337n1nj4: looking to live up to your name?
[15:27] <l337n1nj4> Yup, looking to use Ubuntu to it's full potential :-)
[15:27] <SonikkuAmerica> xodiak: OK; do you know the size of your Windows and Mint partitions?
[15:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> l337n1nj4: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide is full of good info
[15:28] <l337n1nj4> Thank you! All the help I can get is appreciated!
[15:28] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: If you want to know how to use bash specifically
[15:29] <xodiak> SonikkuAmerica, Windows is 281GB, Mint is 204GB, Swap is 5GB and there like 8.5 GB unallocated.
[15:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> SonikkuAmerica: Yeah, its rather specific but I think its a good place for a n00b to start :P
[15:30] <SonikkuAmerica> xodiak: 750 GB total?
[15:30] <l337n1nj4> I've learned a few things, but I'm not at the level of knowledge I'd like to be at. Yes, I am still a n00b (only been using 12.10 64-bit for over a month now) but I hope that changes within the coming months
[15:31]  * ntzrmtthihu777 started there when he was a n00b
[15:31] <Herakles> 500 GB it says in the picture he send...
[15:31] <dylan> l337n1nj4: if you do choose bash, be sure to upgrade to bash 4.0 as it adds some critical functionality (like associative array support)
[15:31] <killer> SonikkuAmerica: how can i monitor trffic to my site "example.com" using iftop
[15:32] <l337n1nj4> I'll make sure that I do that, dylan!
[15:32] <xodiak> SonikkuAmerica, the sizes I listed are total alocated sizes. It's a 500GB drive. Wind8 partition has 147 GB free and Mint partition has 78 GB free
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> dylan  ubuntu 12.10 has bash 4.2
[15:33] <SonikkuAmerica> xodiak: My guess is it's trying to throw Ubuntu into whatever free space it can get
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> GNU bash, version 4.2.24(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Copyright (C) 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> This is free software; you are free to change and redistribute it.
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> meep
[15:33] <FloodBot1> ntzrmtthihu777: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:33] <dylan> cool, didn't know that. maybe i should have said "be sure you're using"
[15:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> geeze what happened to the 1 line -v result =_=
[15:34] <l337n1nj4> Haha that just made my life a little easier
[15:34] <xodiak> SonikkuAmerica, I kind of figured that, but I'm still not sure if the left or right side of this screenshot will be used for the Ubuntu install. http://imagebin.org/251375
[15:34] <SonikkuAmerica> xodiak: I wouldn't use that option if I were you; I'd back up one step and choose "Something else" and create a new partition if that's what you're trying to do
[15:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> xodiak: this ^
[15:36] <xodiak> SonikkuAmerica, Okay. I will do that. Greatly appreciate the help
[15:36] <ciao> ciao
[15:36] <ciao> !list
[15:36] <Guest4753> I have just installed Kubuntu, how to run firefox from it?
[15:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> =_= who needs warez when you got gnu/open source?
[15:37] <Narel> salut
[15:37] <Guest4753> I ran Mozilla Firefox Installer and it announced to be installed successfully but still there is not command firefox in available path
[15:38] <ThinkT510> Guest4753: firefox is in the repos, there's no need to download it from the website
[15:38] <Narel> j'ai un problème wine avec bumblebee sous ubuntu dernière version: marche très bien hors wine mais erreur GLX dès que j'essaye de lancer starcraft par exemple
[15:38] <ThinkT510> !software | Guest4753
[15:38] <Narel> pas de problème pour lancer le jeu avec chip intel intégré
[15:38] <angs> does ubuntu have wheel group?
[15:38] <ThinkT510> !fr | Narel
[15:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> Narel: #playonlinux
[15:39] <Guest4753> I haven't download it from the website, just it looks like Mozilla Installer installed Mozilla from a repository on the hard disk
[15:39] <Narel> sorry
[15:39] <Guest4753> The question is how to run firefox?
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> Guest4753  what goes wrong when you try?
[15:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> =_= if noobs wouldn't go about willy nilly installing this and that and just used the software center like normal folk would be no issues
[15:40] <dylan> narel has a problem with bumblebee over ubuntu's previous version. it works very well at first but errors "GLX" when he tries to play starvraft, for example
[15:40] <Narel> I've a little problem with bumblebee and wine, when I try to launch a game (starcraft by example) I wine with an error GLX, no problem with native opengl games
[15:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest4753: Is this on Kubuntu?
[15:40] <Guest4753> Just there is no command "firefox" in the available path, it is not in K-menus as well
[15:40] <Guest4753> Yes, it is on Kubuntu
[15:40] <Narel> no problem with intel with wine
[15:40] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: can you please stop calling people "noobs" like it's a bad thing
[15:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest4753: You might ask in #kubuntu, but alternatively, you might [ sudo apt-get install firefox ]
[15:40] <OerHeks> Guest4753, open Muon package manager and search for Firefox
[15:41] <messa4> hi
[15:41] <l337n1nj4> I've never had any problem using downloaded programs that I didn't get from the Software Center (i.e. Ubuntu Tweak)
[15:41] <Guest4753> Muon Software Center?
[15:41] <deung> nick deung
[15:41] <SonikkuAmerica> l337n1nj4: Too bad Ubuntu Tweak is going down the drain
[15:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, or apt-get l337n1nj4
[15:41] <LinuxGirl> hello
[15:41] <Narel> ntzrmtthihu777, don't think about a wine problem
[15:41] <dimon> hi
[15:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> I never use software center anymore, but its good for noob
[15:41] <l337n1nj4> SonikkiAmerica: What do you mean?
[15:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Narel: how did you install it? wine manually or via POL?
[15:42] <Narel> I think it's 32 bit lib use with bumblebee
[15:42] <bazhang> ntzrmtthihu777, stop calling people noob
[15:42] <Narel> wine installed manually
[15:42] <SonikkuAmerica> l337n1nj4: The creator dropped support beginning with Raring. (Quantal is still available)
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> ntzrmtthihu777  don't say noob or n00b please, better use the word 'beginner'
[15:42] <messa4> does anyone see me?
[15:42] <Narel> works fine with Intel chip
[15:42] <Narel> but not with optirun
[15:42] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone | messa4
[15:42] <Neutron01> software center is cool
[15:42] <LinuxGirl> lol
[15:42] <LinuxGirl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGPRHRfmqxE
[15:42] <l337n1nj4> messa4: I see you , Sonikku: That sucks! I love Ubuntu Tweak!
[15:43] <Guest4753> So Muon Software Center claims Firefox to be installed
[15:43] <Narel> software center is for lamers :)
[15:43] <ikonia> Narel: stop
[15:43] <Guest4753> How could I get the exact path to the executable file?
[15:43] <Narel> lol just a joke :)
[15:43] <ThinkT510> Guest4753: which firefox
[15:43] <Neutron01> that cat
[15:43] <messa4> ubottu: thats becasue I dont have any questions about linux. I jsut was wondering if I can talk on this chennel without register etc.
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> Guest4753  which [package]
[15:43] <SonikkuAmerica> messa4: Yeah, you can
[15:44] <Neutron01> its cool
[15:44] <ThinkT510> Guest4753: which firefox
[15:44] <Neutron01> i always want to throw cat in well
[15:44] <SonikkuAmerica> messa4: The only thing we ask is keep it Ubuntu-related in here; use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[15:44] <DJones> Neutron01: Stop, this is Ubuntu support, not general chat
[15:44] <l337n1nj4> LinuxGirl: Weren't you in the LinuxMint chat sometime ago?
[15:45] <Neutron01> sorry DJones,
[15:45] <Guest4753> But it seems to be a recursive absurdity. When I check "More Info" it seems like only Installer is installed
[15:45] <Guest4753> No information about the real Firefox
[15:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Neutron01
[15:45] <Neutron01> wow there is other channel.. hurray
[15:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest4753: Try running [ firefox & ] in a console
[15:45] <SonikkuAmerica> *konsole
[15:46] <Guest4753> not installed
[15:46] <stojic> Guest4753: best would be to remove firefox that you downloaded from mozilla's website and install it using the software center
[15:47] <Guest4753> I haven't downloaded it from Mozilla's Website, it was on KUbuntu by default by seems to have no effect
[15:47] <stojic> Guest4753: I see, I have misunderstood the problem.
[15:47] <Guest4753> but below the results of apt-get install firefox are:
[15:48] <OerHeks> Guest4753, maybe running updatemanager solves your issue.
[15:48] <SonikkuAmerica> with a hyphen
[15:49] <Guest4753> Reading list of packages... Ready.
[15:49] <Guest4753> Building dependency tree
[15:49] <Guest4753> Reading the state... Ready
[15:49] <Guest4753> Package firefox has no available version but an another package refers to it. It usually means that package is lacking, that it has been replaced by an another package or it is not available from sources set by now.
[15:49] <FloodBot1> Guest4753: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:51] <ram_> hello
[15:51] <anonymous_> hi
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> Guest4753  try sudo apt-get update, first
[15:51] <Neutron01> humans are evil.
[15:53] <Guest4753> MonkeyDust, with no arguments?
[15:53] <jaydubs> Hello, my system is not booting correctly. I wanted to turn verbose boot on / quite off, so i boot off a live usb, then edited /etc/default/grub/ , chrooted to the drive i was trying to fix, and did update-grub. but it is looking for other things mounted. I could try to mount them - but this doesnt seem like the correct way to do this. Please advise. Thanks!
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> Guest4753  idd
[15:53] <LPedro> hum
[15:55] <Guest4753> MonkeyDust what is Idd? apt-get update requires no arguments, it is the message announced
[15:55] <Guest4753> Do you want me to update the whole system?
[15:55] <anonymous_> h
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> Guest4753  sudo apt-get update synchronizes your pc with the sources
[15:56] <jaydubs> MonkeyDust: Any ideas on how to debug Ubuntu boot?
[15:56] <jaydubs> like how to turn verbose output on from a live OS?
[15:57] <cronus> jaydubs, you could edit the kernel options from grub by pressing a key (i think it is e).
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> jaydubs  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[15:57] <holstein> jaydubs: thats not the way i was reading you quesiton in the other channel
[15:58] <jkbbwr> how can I remove everytihng dekstop based via the terminal
[15:58] <holstein> jaydubs: did you revert to a saved backup of your grub? and the machin is booting now?
[15:58] <jaydubs> holstein: yea its xubuntu os, didnt think to check for the irc until after
[15:58] <holstein> !grub | jaydubs if so, you can refer to this for grub options
[15:58] <bazhang> jkbbwr, you want to revert to a server install?
[15:59] <jkbbwr> bazhang: im on a debian image and someone slapped loads of dekstop stuff on it so its not 100% ubuntu but this is the best place to ask
[15:59] <Guest4753> OK, So I have already updated my packages
[15:59] <bazhang> jkbbwr, #debian
[15:59] <jkbbwr> bazhang: bah
[15:59] <alexxio_> empathy ubuntu integration is not good...can you please suggest some other app to use with instant messaging?
[15:59] <jaydubs> holstein: system was up and running. process crashed and wouldnt restart. did a reboot. now i see the flash os flash screen, but then nothing. cant be reached with ssh either. so i wanted to debug the boot process
[15:59] <Miria> Hi, i am Linux newbie and i´d like to know if someone knows this Amazon book
[15:59] <Miria> and can tell me if its any good to enter the Linux world: http://t.co/UG9xJhIFEh ?
[15:59] <bazhang> !ot | Miria
[16:00] <ikonia> Miria: you asked about that yesterday, and I explained about it
[16:00] <holstein> jaydubs: did you do an upgrade? if so, mabye just try booting an older kernel
[16:00] <ThinkT510> alexxio_: pidgin
[16:00] <jaydubs> nope
[16:00] <jaydubs> no upgrade. no nothing. just reboot
[16:00] <jaydubs> but i dont see the grub menu during boot, so i dont know how to edit the boot commands
[16:01] <Guest4753> OK, thank you very much for your help, a nice firefox is ran on my monitor by now :)
[16:01] <jaydubs> Usually you can press 'p' and edit the kernel command
[16:01] <Miria> thanks
[16:01] <demo> xcvcv 79.61.124.159 12345
[16:01] <Guest4753> I am connected to the Internet by an ethernet cable, is there a way to do with wireless?
[16:02] <jaydubs> Guest4753: do you have a wirelss card?
[16:02] <Guest4753> Sure
[16:02] <jaydubs> sure ....
[16:02] <jaydubs> yes or no
[16:02] <Guest4753> Yes
[16:02] <jaydubs> then you need the card's driver so the OS can talk to the card
[16:03] <jaydubs> open a terminal and type 'ifconfig' tell us what you see
[16:03] <Guest4753> eth0, eth1, lo
[16:03] <jaydubs> holstein: did i loose ya
[16:03] <Guest4753> There is a lot of details about each of them
[16:04] <holstein> jaydubs: you can address the channel.. any volunteer can help
[16:04] <jaydubs> Guest4753: ok, so if your OS knew about your wireless card you'd see something like 'wlan0'
[16:04] <ThinkT510> jaydubs: some wireless cards can be detected as eth as well
[16:04] <jaydubs> fuckin hate ubuntu
[16:04] <Guest4753> ifconfig | grep wlan - no results
[16:05] <jaydubs> why do we need update-grug and bullshit
[16:05] <jaydubs> why cant i edit menu.lst and be fuckin done with it
[16:05] <holstein> jaydubs: language please
[16:05] <bazhang> jaydubs, no cursing
[16:05] <holstein> jaydubs: you can use whatever packages you like
[16:05] <ThinkT510> Guest4753: lspci
[16:05] <ThinkT510> Guest4753: use a pastebin to show us the result too
[16:05] <jaydubs> you guys can watch my language but you cant tell me a simple way to turn verbose boot on a system thats not booting
[16:05] <jaydubs> helpful
[16:06] <Guest4753> brb
[16:06] <holstein> jaydubs: probably would be a good use of time to test the hardware.. if things were working well, and just broke for no reason
[16:06] <jaydubs> right, but fdisk shows the disk. and the partitions. and like i said, i see the xubuntu flash screen
[16:06] <jaydubs> which tellS ME its the OS
[16:07] <holstein> jaydubs: i might run a memory test, and test the hard drive.. then i would just boot a live CD and see if the issue is with my OS or the hardware
[16:07] <holstein> jaydubs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot
[16:07] <jaydubs> holstein: im on a live cd, i want to edit grub menu
[16:08] <tgm4883> jaydubs, menu.lst doesn't exist in grub2 (AFAIK)
[16:08] <holstein> jaydubs: you can use the above debugging without permanently editing grub
[16:08] <jaydubs> but an edit goes unserviced without 'update-grub' , correct?
[16:08] <holstein> jaydubs: i would just boot, and not permanently edit the grub
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> !grub
[16:08] <holstein> jaydubs: above, you can read about how to show what you are looking for without editing/breaking grub
[16:11] <demo> -stopcmd
[16:11] <demo> -stopcmd
[16:11] <Guest4753> Hm, KUbuntu seems to have some strange problems with strong passwords
[16:13] <demo> test1 78.154.95.124 213
[16:16] <Guest4753> It is a very strange, my KUbuntu sometimes refutes to handle long password properly. By now I have "rechanged" it to the same as it was earlier and the things seems to work again
[16:16] <Guest4753> But I have the same problem about a half an hour.
[16:16] <cronus> jaydubs, i think in some systems you have to press shift to get grub menu on boot
[16:17] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone. Trying to run videos in Html5 on lubuntu 12.04 firefox. Youtube runs fine in flash. about:plugins tells me this --http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640505/. I am referring to link this --http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1940921. What should I do ?
[16:18] <xanthaos> I need to activate samba in ubuntu, I'm familiar with Fedora. I see service command but it doesn't recognize smb or samba
[16:18] <xanthaos> any advice?
[16:18] <bmxscott1993> how do i get grub
[16:18] <ThinkT510> !samba | xanthaos
[16:18] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, please don't put -- directly before your links
[16:18] <Vivekananda> tgm4883: ok :)
[16:19] <Vivekananda> so is this ok -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1940921   ?
[16:19] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, much better, now I can click on it
[16:20] <Vivekananda> yep gotcha. Sure will do in future
[16:20] <SeattleMike> hi
[16:20] <bmxscott1993> what the link for grub
[16:20] <Guest4753> Which sda partition is supposed to be Windows partition??
[16:21] <sw> bmxscott1993: 'what the link?'
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> Guest4753  normally, sda1
[16:21] <ThinkT510> Guest4753: entirely depends on your disk layout
[16:21] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, hmm. I never thought about it (I use chrome) which works fine. Did you go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 page and see if all the plugins were OK?
[16:21] <bmxscott1993> for dual boot
[16:21] <Narel> nobodies use bumblebee here :(
[16:22] <Guest4753> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows  -t vfat -o umask=000 complains that wrong fs type, bad option or something like that
[16:22] <tgm4883> Guest4753, why would it be vfat?
[16:22] <ThinkT510> Guest4753: does you windows run on fat32 or ntfs?
[16:22] <tgm4883> Guest4753, surely NTFS
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> Guest4753, A factory install may have sda1 as the boot partition and sda2 as C the main operating system, it is easy to tel, be sure you know. it is
[16:22] <BluesKaj> !info bumblebee | Narel
[16:23] <Vivekananda> tgm4883: I want to use html5 so I and watch videos as faster speed not available in flash. I went to the page and I see check marks for Video Tag and WEbM and I see  ! for h.264
[16:23] <BluesKaj> hmm
[16:23] <Narel> there is a package in a PPA
[16:23] <Guest4753> Yes, NTFS : ). It works now
[16:23] <Narel> official method
[16:24] <ThinkT510> Narel: ppas are in no way official
[16:24] <BluesKaj> Narel: http://bumblebee-project.org/install.html
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Can you share what you need the link exactly for?
[16:24] <Narel> bumblebee is good in natives
[16:24] <Vivekananda> tgm4883: Also I am trying to do what is suggested here -- http://class2go.stanford.edu/faq  question number 3
[16:25] <Narel> just a prob with wine when try to launch a 32bit game
[16:25] <Narel> when I test glxspheres or sauerbraten that's good
[16:25] <Vivekananda> I see the options all right but they are greyed out
[16:26] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, reading some threads, it looks like h.264 isn't supported in firefox
[16:26] <bmxscott1993> i can to see the grub boot menu and i need like the full code so i can put xp as well on it and im still getting purple screen with static and no logo on boot is it my bios setting i got nvidia
[16:26] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, that said, I opened firefox, joined the html5 trial and I can playback html5 videos in youtube
[16:26] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, (I'm assuming it's using webm, so that probably won't work for other parts of the web)
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Run sudo update-grub in ubuntu to add XP if XP is instaled
[16:26] <Narel> but when I want to launch starcraft with wine with optimus it's crashing
[16:27] <Rexter> I can't get my Amazon Prime videos to work on ubuntu. In Firefox, clicking on the play button simply doesn't do anything, in Chromium, it looks like it's going to play, but then tries to update the player, and fails.
[16:27] <Narel> I've seen a lots of users use optimus with wine without errors in Ubuntu
[16:27] <Vivekananda> tgm4883: I can play them too no problem ( in Html5) but I want to speed them up. Speed options are greyeed out. do I need the h.264 for speed to work ?
[16:27] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, oh, hmm. Let me check
[16:28] <bmxscott1993> my mother board it geforce6100pm-m2 v2.0
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Grub2 has a part called the os-prober it will find other installed operating systems with a update
[16:28] <bmxscott1993> it say can not find grub
[16:28] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, yea it looks like it
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Did you install ubuntu from windows?
[16:29] <bmxscott1993> no form cd
[16:29] <bmxscott1993> from cd
[16:29] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, I'm guessing at this point, since I can't disable h.264 in chrome
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Are you in the ubuntu desktop?
[16:29] <bmxscott1993> yer
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, The install or the disc?
[16:29] <bmxscott1993> install
[16:30] <Vivekananda> tgm4883: the other browser is the chromium default. Should I try it ?
[16:30] <Vivekananda> what other options do I have to make this work ?
[16:30] <Rexter> Has anyone got Amazon instant video to work on ubuntu?
[16:30] <bmxscott1993> cus im going to run it with windows but not installed it yet
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, So if you run in the terminal    sudo update-grub      it errors?
[16:30] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, yea try it. I'm unsure what chromium supports (I use chome, which is the closed source version)
[16:30] <bmxscott1993> yer
[16:31] <SIGKILLer> does anyone here have any experience with ntop?
[16:31] <bmxscott1993> it did the sudo update-grub  thing it found it
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Hmm so post all that information with the command here and give us the http address   http://pastebin.com/
[16:32] <bmxscott1993> but still when i turn the computer on it like all fizzy and just purple screen
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Ah cool, I was typing as you posted. ;)
[16:32] <dave311> Hi guys, sorry if this is a dumb question I'm still fairly new to linux. I know my usb devices are in /dev/ttyACM, and I know I can type lsusb to see a list of attached devices. But for example if there is a device shown with lsusb on bus 005 device 002, how do I work out whether it's ttyACM0 or ttyACM1 etc etc? I hope that makes sense
[16:32] <Vivekananda> tgm4883: Thanks , chromium does both. :) I installed the plugins as on the other site so I think it might be that a restart can cause mozilla to work too if not still chromium works for speed is ok with me
[16:32] <Vivekananda> :)
[16:33] <tgm4883> Vivekananda, sweet
[16:33] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Lok here you will at the grub menu insert nomodeset in the kernel, it is a onetime fix to get in and load graphic drivers. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[16:33] <wilee-nilee> look*
[16:34] <bmxscott1993> wilee-nilee il record it upload it to youtube then give you the link so you no what i mean
[16:34] <bmxscott1993> brb
[16:34] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, You did say you were in the desktop, does it look normal there?
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Cool I have to run to the store for a moment but there are many that can help.
[16:35] <bestdnd> running "rvm use 1.9.2" gives me "Using /usr/share/ruby-rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p180", but when i run "ruby version", it can't find it and suggest 1.8 or 1.9.1.  how can i install ruby 1.9.2?
[16:36] <exexex_> guys may I drop a quick question about /etc/shadow file ?
[16:37] <exexex_> if I cat this file: I cannot see the password's hash in daemons etc.. but I see a "*" there
[16:37] <exexex_> I mean their $2 field is *
[16:37] <hansi3482> hey Guys
[16:37] <exexex_> anyone could explain to me why that ? But I can see the password hash for my user and the root user
[16:37] <nyx114> hansi3482, hi
[16:37] <skinofstars> hi, i wonder if someone can help me. i'm havng problems with apache setup for local development. forbidden 403. i've got a setup like this http://pastebin.com/661Tcaec
[16:37] <bmxscott1993> right i did allocation failed: out of vmalloc space - use vmalloc=<size> to increase size. command it say no such file or directory
[16:38] <nyx114> can i reinstall ubuntu without losing my home folder?
[16:38] <bmxscott1993> yer desk top is nomal and clear but when i boot it up
[16:38] <Kalebtbacon> Can someone help - I installed Ubuntu with Wubi and the password and Username i set arnt working. i re installed it  6 times but keeps saying invailed password. and now it wont give me the screen to go back to windows all i can do is Guesr
[16:38] <angs> when I execute  apt-get build-dep  wpasupplicant. what version of wpasupplicant's dependencies are installed?
[16:38] <Kalebtbacon> guest
[16:38] <skinofstars> nyx114: if you installed home in a separate partition, it should be fine
[16:38] <Guest4753> OK, I have successfully run wpa_supplicant, but is there a replacement for dhcpcd in KUbuntu?
[16:38] <hansi3482> I have one Question, can i make program links on my desktop?, sry but im a neardy in linux =)
[16:39] <nyx114> skinofstars, it's on the same partition
[16:39] <nyx114> :/
[16:39] <bobbyz> exexex_: It means there is no password set for those system accounts.  That's a good thing.  If an account will not be logging-in interactively via a password, it shouldn't have one set
[16:39] <Merlinka> hi all!
[16:39] <skinofstars> nyx114: that may be an issue then. it's a good pracice to put /home in a seperate partition
[16:39] <bcbc2> Kalebtbacon: it sounds like you got 13.04 installed. Either that or ran an out of date 12.04.1 version of wubi.exe (which also installs 13.04). And 13.04 is broken bug 1155704
[16:40] <hansi3482> and why i am the only one how is grey?
[16:40] <Kalebtbacon> yes i have 13.04
[16:40] <nyx114> hansi3482, are you using xchat?
[16:40] <bcbc2> Kalebtbacon: if you log on as guest you should be able to shutdown/restart and then Windows will boot
[16:41] <Kalebtbacon> it boots ubuntu at start
[16:41] <nyx114> skinofstars, my hard-drive has limit of 4 partitions. im using a partition each for windows, swap, ubuntu, windows sys stuff
[16:41] <bcbc2> Kalebtbacon: only the first reboot after installing. Thereafter you should see the Windows boot manager with a choice
[16:41] <Kalebtbacon> i saw it for a second then it disaperred
[16:42] <bcbc2> Kalebtbacon: how many times have you rebooted?
[16:42] <Kalebtbacon> probable 4
[16:43] <Kalebtbacon> now its 5
[16:43] <bcbc2> Kalebtbacon: do you have a windows repair cd?
[16:43] <fizyplankton> im running ubuntu 10.04 32bit. i have 2x 2gb ddr3 ram modules installed, which are going bad. if i replace them with 2x 4gb chips (since i plan to eventually transition to 64bit via dual boot), will the 32bit blissfully ignore the extra 4gb? i would like to be able to smoothly go back and forth from 32bit to 64bit
[16:43] <Kalebtbacon> its a netbook, cant old CD's
[16:43] <Kalebtbacon> thats why i used wubi
[16:43] <ausxxh> interesting, installed 12.04.02 64b, included LAMP, went fine
[16:43] <Kalebtbacon> hold*
[16:44] <ausxxh> then apt-get upgrade failed for mysql 5.5?
[16:44] <bcbc2> Kalebtbacon: you can create a windows repair USB... but I guess you haven't
[16:44] <ausxxh> i never had issues with fresh install in the past
[16:44] <ausxxh> is this a bug?
[16:44] <Kalebtbacon> can i create one onn another computer?
[16:44] <ausxxh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640580/
[16:44] <bcbc2> Kalebtbacon: yes - make sure the architecture/windows version matches
[16:45] <Kalebtbacon> Thanks :) ima go test that out now :)
[16:45] <bcbc2> Kalebtbacon: and don't try wubi in 13.04. The devs are talking about dropping Wubi altogether
[16:45] <crxsse> hi! with which bash command can i check how many ram is used by my kubuntu? it is 32bit and i am not sure whether it uses pae for my 8gb ram :)
[16:45] <Kalebtbacon> ah kk
[16:46] <Kalebtbacon> so i would need a USB for it?
[16:46] <bcbc2> Kalebtbacon: yes
[16:47] <bobbyz> fizyplankton: If your question is whether or not you can run 32bit without problem on > 4G ram, the answer is yes, you can.  without PAE, I think you'll only see 3.5GB of memory.  With PAE, you'll see it all.  I don't know what all you have installed, but transitioning to 64bit is really not a big deal.  You shouldn't really need to dual-boot.  Just backup your data and install 64bit
[16:47] <bmxscott1993> im BACK
[16:48] <bobbyz> fizyplankton: That assumes your processor is a 64bit processor, of course
[16:49] <fizyplankton> bobbyz: transitioning to 64 bit will be a major deal for me. im still in the very early stages of going from 10.04 to 12.04. i have a very unusual and fragile configuration, and the way i see it, if it aint broke, dont fix it. whats pae
[16:49] <scooby> how do I (from the command line) upgrade from 10.4 to 12.4?
[16:50] <fizyplankton> scooby: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:50] <bobbyz> fizyplankton: I don't know your situation, so I can't comment.  However, keep in mind that you can run 32-bit apps on 64-bit with the right libraries installed.  PAE is physical address extension, and allows addressing >4GB memory on 32bit systems
[16:50] <scooby> fizyplankton: ty
[16:50] <jrib> !upgrade | scooby
[16:50] <Kalebtbacon> Quick question how do i make USB boot from startup?
[16:51] <nyx114> Kalebtbacon, you should change your boot device order
[16:51] <jrib> scooby: follow the server instructions there.  Also take care that the versions are "10.04" and "12.04", not "10.4" and "12.4".  They correspond to YEAR.MONTH (i.e. 12.04 represents 2012 April)
[16:51] <Kalebtbacon> Is that when it says HP and gives me a couple of options
[16:52] <fizyplankton> bobbyz: interesting. the most unusual aspect of my setup is that i have 5 monitors. it just barely works in lucid. cant get it working in precise yet.
[16:52] <scooby> fizyplankton: the command you gave me does NOT upgrade the version.  It upgrades the packages within the realease - not what I want
[16:53] <scooby> jrib: the link you gave me is not for the command line  - I need a command line way to upgrade from 10.4 to 12.4
[16:53] <jrib> scooby: as I said, follow the server instructions.
[16:53] <bobbyz> fizyplankton: The 32 vs 64 bit architecture shouldn't have much bearing on your monitor configuration.  Once you get your monitors working on precise, the same configuration should apply to 32bit or 64bit
[16:53] <scooby> jrib: I do not see such instructions on the page you gave me a reference to
[16:53] <jrib> scooby: more specifically, here you go: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades#Network_Upgrade_for_Ubuntu_Servers_.28Recommended.29
[16:53] <fizyplankton> scooby: i quote: "dist-upgrade - Distribution upgrade, see apt-get(8)". it should work. thats how i originally upgraded my laptop, before it crashed and i network installed it
[16:54] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | fizyplankton
[16:55] <scooby> !upgrade
[16:55] <fizyplankton> bobbyz: true, but in my experiance, shouldnt and wont are 2 different terms
[16:55] <fizyplankton> scooby: i guess i was wrong. sorry. thats was a long time ago for me
[16:56] <scooby> fizyplankton: yes I know - and ty for trying
[16:57] <scooby> jrib: so, any help possible
[16:57] <jrib> scooby: I linked you directly to the section; I don't know what else you want me to do
[16:57] <qwert>   do-release-upgrade
[16:57] <bobbyz> fizyplankton: I know you are hesitant, but there is very little difference from a user perspective between 32 and 64 bit.  You have to do what you are comfortable with, but I think you will find that the bitness will have very little bearing on your setup
[16:58] <bmxscott1993> i got 71% for this video to upload then i can show you my prople more clearly
[16:58] <Catbuntu> I have a virtual  box running on an Ubuntu host, running Ubuntu Server. How can I access that virtual machine from the host?
[16:58] <Catbuntu> I tried ifconf but "10.0.2.15" doesn't work.
[16:58] <scooby> jrib: ty - I see the seond link now - ty
[16:58] <fizyplankton> bobbyz: well, thank you for your help
[16:58] <jhutchins_wk> Catbuntu: If nobody here knows try #vbox
[16:58] <bobbyz> fizyplankton: Obviously there is a performance difference and your cpu architecture has to be compatible, but the packaging on ubuntu makes the architecture largely transparent to an end-user
[16:58] <bobbyz> fizyplankton: yw
[16:59] <ferronica> anyone help me regarding Geary Mail?
[16:59] <Boyputik> hello
[17:00] <Giora> Hey guys is it possible to install pidgin-encryption without installing pidgin it self? (I have it installed already from the src)
[17:01] <Boyputik> any guru.s online :)
[17:01] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: You might consider using a different adapter type than NAT if you wish to routinely access the guest interface from your host
[17:02] <Catbuntu> I use NAT and Host-only, bobbyz.
[17:02] <linuksdc> hello
[17:03] <Guest7228> how to use my logitech webcam on ubuntu
[17:03] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: Remember you can also have multiple adapters attached to a guest.
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Looking back at your posts there are rather confusing to be you answer yes and no to several questions.
[17:03] <jrib> Guest7228: just plug it in usually
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> *thry
[17:03] <crxsse> hi! with which bash command can i check how many ram is availible for my kubuntu? it is 32bit and i am not sure whether it uses pae for my 8gb ram or works with 4 only :)
[17:03] <jrib> crxsse: free -m
[17:04] <qwert> crxsse, free
[17:04] <bmxscott1993> yes
[17:04] <crxsse> thank you :)
[17:04] <Whiskey`Wonka> hmm, im trying to install cacti 0.8.8 from backports but 0.8.7 is still listed as latest (non backports)
[17:04] <Whiskey`Wonka> what am i missing?
[17:04] <ferronica> anyone help me regarding Geary Mail?
[17:04] <Catbuntu> That's what I do bobbyz.
[17:04] <Catbuntu> I have both NAT and Host-only.
[17:04] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: Then you can access the guest via the address from the host-only adapter
[17:05] <Catbuntu> but the host-only adapter has the same IP that the guest.
[17:05] <Catbuntu> oh, no, ignore that
[17:06] <Catbuntu> It doesn't work.
[17:07] <ferronica> anyone help me regarding Geary Mail?
[17:07] <Catbuntu> Also I have a web server running on the host and using Host-only's IP showed host's localhost.
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, We want to help, however if this is a language issue lets be aware of that and maybe there is a channel for you that may be better, just trying to help. ;)
[17:08] <OerHeks> ferronica, see https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/geary/
[17:09] <Catbuntu> hmm, but 192.168.56.1 responses to ping.
[17:09] <bmxscott1993> no it no problem of language issue
[17:09] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: Make sure you have configured the host-only networking correctly.  Check the settings under File -> Preferences -> Network.  When that is configured, you should see a virtual interface on your host when running ifconfig.  The guest interface has to be configured to be on the same network, etc
[17:09] <ferronica> OerHeks, im facing some problem with it
[17:10] <Catbuntu> and how can I configure the guest?
[17:10] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: Are you running ubuntu on the guest as well?
[17:10] <Catbuntu> yes, Ubuntu Server
[17:10] <ferronica> OerHeks, not able to add account tried two account yahoo and gmail both same problem
[17:10] <dharani> hi im using http://www.davidrevoy.com/data/documents/recordscreen_12-04.zip
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Cool then two things speak succinctly, and read the questions carefully, we can help best when contradicting information is not presented.
[17:10] <ferronica> OerHeks, im using ubuntu 64bit 12.04
[17:10] <dharani> to record my sessions
[17:11] <bmxscott1993> ok
[17:11] <Catbuntu> and the vboxnet0 adapter appears on host's ifconfig but not on guest's.
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[17:11] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: okay, then edit /etc/network/interfaces .  Right now it probably only has an entry for auth eth0 (assuming eth0 is your NAT adapter).  You'll need to add a static entry for eth1
[17:11] <dharani> but im unable to capture the audio from the otherend
[17:11] <dharani> can any one help me out
[17:12] <dharani> hi im using http://www.davidrevoy.com/data/documents/recordscreen_12-04.zip
[17:12] <dharani> to record my sessions
[17:12] <dharani> but im unable to capture the audio from the otherend
[17:12] <Catbuntu> I tried bobbyz, lets see if it works
[17:12] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: Something along the lines of:  auto eth1\n  iface eth1 inet static\n  address 192.168.56.2\n netmask 255.255.255.0
[17:12] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: 'sudo service networking restart' after that config is in place
[17:13] <Catbuntu> okay
[17:13] <dharani> hi im using http://www.davidrevoy.com/data/documents/recordscreen_12-04.zip
[17:13] <dharani> to record my training sessions with skype but i'm unable to capture the audio from the otherend
[17:13] <Catbuntu> the address should be the same than the Host-only's IP?
[17:13] <OerHeks> ferronica, i just tried gmail, works fine. what error do you get?
[17:13] <dharani> plz help
[17:13] <steve_fi> heya guys, I want to clone my gpt ubuntu disk to a smaller SSD, and i am wondering if I resize the partition on the source disk, will the "dd" command copy the unused space as well?
[17:13] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: Then you should see the static ip for eth1 when running ifconfig on the guest.  If you can, then from the host you should be able to ping the guest
[17:14] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: No, the guest needs a distinct IP different than the host, but on the same subnet.  If host is 192.168.99.1, then guest should be 192.168.99.2 or any other last octect other than 1 or 255
[17:14] <ferronica> OerHeks, when i fill all mail account details and click ADD Error Unable to connect *Connection Error
[17:15] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: After the configuration is in /etc/network/interfaces on the guest, you need to restart networking on the guest with 'sudo service networking restart' and then you should be able to run a ping command on the *host* and ping the guest IP
[17:16] <Catbuntu> the service networking restarts says "stop: Unknown instance, networking stop/waiting"
[17:16] <Catbuntu> i'm trying to restart and see if it works
[17:17] <ferronica> OerHeks, any idea about it
[17:18] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: my mistake then.  Run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:18] <scooby> jrib: just wanted to say ty - the upgrade is complete - thanks to you
[17:19] <Catbuntu> yay, it worked now bobbyz!
[17:19] <Catbuntu> thanks :)
[17:19] <bobbyz> Catbuntu: yw
[17:20] <artyk> hello i need some help pl
[17:20] <OerHeks> ferronica, i found a bugreport @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/geary/+bug/1072046  but geary is still in development, version 0.21
[17:21] <ferronica> OerHeks, so problem with Geary??
[17:21] <bmxscott1993> this is my problem purple screen and static http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8F5Bte52fA
[17:21] <OerHeks> ferronica, i think so, post your issue @ http://redmine.yorba.org/projects/geary/issues it might help.
[17:21] <bmxscott1993> where the vide to my problem i made
[17:21] <artyk> ####o i upgrade to ubuntu 12.10 but now my computer but is  deconfigured not sound all horrible graphics no taskbar just a mess
[17:23] <ferronica> OerHeks, what version do you use
[17:23] <ferronica> OerHeks, 0.2.0 or .3.0
[17:23] <drag0nz> hey guys, is there any way by any chance to use Windows Remote Connection Desktop to remote into ubuntu?
[17:23] <LargePrime> how do i list running processes?
[17:24] <OerHeks> ferronica, i just tried 0.21
[17:24] <ferronica> OerHeks, not updated to latest one
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> LargePrime  ps -e
[17:25] <ferronica> OerHeks, i think problem with 0.3.0 but no one reported for version 0.3.0
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> LargePrime, Top or htop if instaled will show running processes in the terminal.
[17:25] <OerHeks> ferronica, where do you get 0.3 ?
[17:25] <doomlord> is there an irc channel devoted to linux desktop environment generally
[17:25] <doomlord> environments ^
[17:25] <bmxscott1993> this is my problem purple screen and static http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8F5Bte52fA
[17:26] <ferronica> OerHeks, auto updated
[17:26] <OerHeks> ferronica, ubuntu 12.10 or 13.04 beta?
[17:26] <ferronica> OerHeks, geary 0.3.0~r935-0+pkg898~precise1
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> doomlord  type /msg alis list *blah*   (with the asterisks
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> )
[17:27] <ferronica> OerHeks, ubuntu 12.04
[17:27] <artyk> so i upgrade to ubuntu 12.10 but now my computer  is  deconfigured not sound  horrible graphics no taskbar just a mess any idea
[17:27] <ferronica> OerHeks, check software Center there you will see
[17:27] <OerHeks> ferronica, you are on elementry OS ?
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, not that I know of there are at least 50 possibilities for a desktop.
[17:27] <ferronica> OerHeks, yes
[17:27] <ferronica> OerHeks, yes
[17:28] <ferronica> OerHeks, same thing
[17:28] <OerHeks> ferronica, derivates are not supported here. join the elementary os irc channel.
[17:28] <doomlord> yeah i realise ,and #linux is usually more generaly wheras #ubuntu is *just* ubuntu...
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> doomlord  it's called dedicated
 this is my problem purple screen and static http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8F5Bte52fA
[17:30] <bmxscott1993> look at the video on the youtube link
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, That is helpful, but beyond my area of knowledge, others can help though I suspect.
[17:30] <ferronica> OerHeks, Ok
[17:30] <bmxscott1993> ok
[17:31] <doomlord> can full ubuntu be installed on the chromebook pixel
[17:32] <doomlord> i've heard of 'crouton' or something
[17:32] <bmxscott1993> this is my problem purple screen and static http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8F5Bte52fA click the youtube line and that the video of my problem and it look like a black screen in the vid it no it purple
[17:32] <bkfitz> Anyone have a suggestion on E-print/Google Cloud Print integratoin with Ubuntu
[17:32] <bkfitz> Want to make sure whatever I buy has drivers for linux
[17:33] <MartynKe-> hey, so i have a 100Mb pipe at home with a static IP, an old laptop and a ubuntu iso. quseiotn is: Can i host a website off of it using a domain that i have already registered!?
[17:33] <bkfitz> sure
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, Info on the web says yes, take a look for yourself.
[17:33] <bkfitz> MartynKe: sure
[17:33] <bobbyz> bmxscott1993: I see a line of output before X starts indicating nouveau is in use.  If you are okay using proprietary drivers, then you might consider installing the nvidia drivers
[17:33] <artyk> PL i upgrade to ubuntu 12.10 but now my computer  is  deconfigured not sound  horrible graphics no taskbar just a mess
[17:33] <MartynKe-> cool!
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> doomlord  is this useful http://www.zdnet.com/chromebook-pixel-run-ubuntu-alongside-chrome-os-7000012381/
[17:33] <bobbyz> bmxscott1993: If I had to take a guess, you might be seeing a problem with nouveau and kernel mode setting or the framebuffer in general
[17:34] <MartynKe-> bkfitz: can u point me in the right direction for some good docs for this? as i really want to get this up and running today! :)
[17:34] <MartynKe-> i work in IT so im OK with tech lingo, just not done THIS before.
[17:34] <bmxscott1993> ok thank
[17:34] <bmxscott1993> il try that
[17:34] <bkfitz> just create an A DNS record for your domain that points to y our static IP, make sure port 80 is directed to your laptop in your router, install apache on the laptop and bada bing.
[17:35] <MartynKe-> cool! i'll do that! :) thenno odubt i'll be here for apache help! ;)
[17:36] <bkfitz> MartynKe: Apache questions would be best addressed in "httpd" channel
[17:36] <bkfitz> MartynKe: but all you do is:
[17:36] <bkfitz> sudo apt-get install apache2
[17:36] <bkfitz> then put your html inside /var/www
[17:36] <bobbyz> bmxscott1993: np, good luck
[17:37] <MartynKe-> so can i "install" wordpress itno the apache stuff?
[17:37] <MartynKe-> im used to wordpress
[17:37] <bkfitz> what kind of site?  you may want to look at  wordpress or drupal
[17:37] <bkfitz> yes
[17:38] <MartynKe-> cool! does the apache take ccare of the mysql side of things?
[17:38] <bkfitz> easy peasy, just get apache installed, then google "ubuntu apache wordpress"
[17:38] <bkfitz> yes
[17:38] <MartynKe-> as in install it? i can create the db no worries.
[17:38] <bkfitz> "take care of"?  apache hosts the wordpress content which is stored in myssql
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> MartynKe-  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[17:39] <MartynKe-> nice. hey man...thanks for your help! :) i have plenty of stuff to be getting on with now! hey one last Q...ubuntu 12.04 server or desktop?
[17:39] <bkfitz> make sure you leverage ubuntu firewall to block all ports except 80 or you'll be hacked in no time
[17:39] <MartynKe-> server has no gui. i assume i can add that though?
[17:39] <bkfitz> google UFW
[17:39] <bkfitz> what do you need a gui for
[17:39] <MartynKe-> will do! :)
[17:39] <bmxscott1993> it install in but is it to do with bios setting or just drive
[17:40] <MartynKe-> ive alrwasys used ubuntu with a gui.
[17:40] <MartynKe-> *always
[17:40] <bkfitz> no need.
[17:40] <bkfitz> not for a webserver...
[17:40] <MartynKe-> althoguh i suppose if all i will is wordpress i suppose you're right!
[17:40] <MartynKe-> **will use
[17:40] <MartynKe-> k...i'll be bk later! thank you so much for your input! :)
[17:40] <bkfitz> yeah... don't install X
[17:41] <bkfitz> np
[17:41] <bkfitz> good luck
[17:41] <MartynKe-> thanks! just wish i had a better laptop do to this on! :( but oh well! in time! ;)
[17:41] <rosco_y> I want to copy a bunch of photo cds to my hd and organize them visually with software--can anyone recommend good software to help me do this?
[17:42] <bobbyz> bmxscott1993: What you posted looked like problems with the nouveau drivers.  If you install the nvidia drivers, then you should reboot for the change to take effect
[17:42] <MartynKe-> rosco: adobe bridge! ;)
[17:42] <bkfitz> any laptop will be fast enough to run apache/mysql/wordpress for a small site
[17:42] <bmxscott1993> ok
[17:42] <rosco_y> MartynKe-: ty, I'll check that out !
[17:42] <MartynKe-> we'll see how it goes! ;)
[17:42] <bmxscott1993> thank for the help
[17:42] <bobbyz> bmxscott1993: yw
[17:45] <MartynKe-> oh...bkfitz: which do you recommend...Server 12.04 64bit OR 32bit?
[17:45] <bobbyz> MartynKe-: You can also look at amazon EC2.  You can run a 'micro' instance continuously for free for 1 yr.  I use that as free hosting for a client's Joomla site
[17:46] <bobbyz> (staging site rather...it's temporary)
[17:46] <MartynKe-> the main concept here with my project is so that i can host my own. ;)
[17:47] <MartynKe-> but thanks for the mention on that! looks good for something else ihave planned!
[17:47] <bobbyz> MartynKe-: Yes, you would be doing that with EC2 as well.  You manage the entire virtual server yourself
[17:47] <bobbyz> MartynKe-: anyway, just something to think about
[17:48] <MartynKe-> defo something to think about! :)
[17:48] <MartynKe-> hso for server...32 or 64bit? which is best?
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> 64bit for 64bit hardware
[17:51] <Guest23556> OK, So what is a command for dealing with eth interfaces in KUbuntu?
[17:52] <Guest23556> There must be one as it is able to connect to internet from the very beginning by an ethernet cable
[17:52] <Guest23556> But it is not dhcpcd
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Guest23556  this looks quite basic http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO/networking-concepts-HOWTO.html
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> Guest23556  start with ifconfig to get the basic description
[18:00] <jhutchins_wk> Guest23556: If you are running the Network Manager, you will want to use that or disable it.
[18:00] <Adriannom> hi.  having trouble getting my wifi card to work.  ubuntu 12.10, lspci says "Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI".  compiled the ralink driver but iwconfig says no wifi card.  anyone have any ideas?
[18:00] <jhutchins_wk> !networking
[18:00] <alcuadrado> Hi, I'm preparing a livecd to run a software in machines not controlled by me, and the software needs a partition mounted (any partition, it auto-detects them and choose the biggest). The thing is that in ubuntu live by default partitions aren't mounted unless you try to access them in nautilus. How can I change this so they are automatically mounted at boot time?
[18:00] <ikonia> !wifi | Adriannom
[18:01] <Guest23556> I am not sure where Network Manager is, I have opened something what is called Network Connections
[18:01] <Guest23556> It sees one wired connection and no wireless connections
[18:01] <ikonia> Guest23556: that is it
[18:02] <Adriannom> ikonia, i've come here after rtfm.  if i've missed something, maybe you can point me in the right direction?
[18:03] <ikonia> Adriannom: what part of the document I've just proved is not working
[18:05] <Adriannom> ikonia, what?
[18:05] <gmcinnes> anyone know why /proc/sys/vm/pagecache would be missing?
[18:05] <ikonia> Adriannom: I've just provided you a document on wireless networking, what part of that document is not working
[18:05] <Guest23556> I have look through document the link to which has been given above but there is no the explicit command I want
[18:06] <Guest23556> I just want to get access to eth interfaces
[18:06] <Guest23556> like dhcpcd eth1
[18:06] <Guest23556> It works in another Linuxes but I suppose that Kubuntu has to have its own command, otherwise internet wouldn't be turned on
[18:07] <angs> how can I install netlink library and headers?
[18:08] <angs> what package do I need to install ?
[18:08] <chrisirc> How would you back up an ntfs partition from within Ubuntu, when that partition is ~350GB in size, has only ~23GB of active data on it, I've got 60GB of space for the backup, and cat $partition|gzip is taking more than 60GB?
[18:08] <ikonia> chrisirc: just copy it off
[18:08] <Adriannom> ikonia, i didn't say anything about the document "not working".  though it seems like you are just being facetious?
[18:08] <ikonia> chrisirc: "cat" partition isn't going to do nothing
[18:09] <chrisirc> It contains a windows system. And permissions etc. need to be restorable.
[18:09] <g0to> hi
[18:09] <chrisirc> ikonia, cat /dev/sda1
[18:09] <ikonia> Adriannom: no, you said you had read the documentation, I've just given you another document with known good information in it, so there are your "pointers" if you read the document
[18:09] <ikonia> chrisirc: no way should you be doing that
[18:09] <chrisirc> Why not?
[18:09] <ikonia> chrisirc: that is not valid data
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> chrisirc, All windows releases since XP have a cloner, if it is bootable use it, it only saves the data.
[18:10] <chrisirc> ikonia, hu, nonsense, if you use that to restore the partition then that's just fine.
[18:10] <ikonia> chrisirc: sorry - it's not, but if you believe that, carry on
[18:10] <g0to> I just added the line "g0to    ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/truecrypt" to my sudoers file but it keeps me asking for password when I run truecrypt
[18:10] <chrisirc> wilee-nilee, thanks, will check for that.
[18:10] <chrisirc> ikonia, why would it not be?
[18:10] <g0to> is the line above well formed?
[18:10] <ikonia> chrisirc: just carry on
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> chrisirc, the basic xp I forgets it exact name needs to have t loaded from a install cd is all.
[18:11] <jrib> g0to: are you running "sudo /usr/bin/truecrypt"?
[18:12] <chrisirc> ikonia, cat /dev/sda1|gzip > /mnt/backupdisk/backupfile.gz; then for restoring, create a partition of identical size, zcat /mnt/backupdisk/backupfile.gz > /dev/sda1
[18:12] <Adriannom> ikonia, your link wasn't what i had already read.  are you saying read every link under the document that you just pasted before asking questions?
[18:12] <g0to> jrib, nope, I was just running it as a regular user
[18:12] <ikonia> Adriannom: no, I'm saying read the link I just gave you
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> chrisirc, With W7 and 8 you need a pro version to get multiple cloning not sure about vista, probably the same.
[18:12] <jrib> g0to: this is your issue?
[18:12] <ikonia> chrisirc: you can keep saying it all you want, but that doesn't change it
[18:13] <chrisirc> (ikonia, also, I'm actually doing /dev/sda, since I want the partition map as well for convenience; that wasn't in line with my wording of "partition" though, so I cheated that to sda1)
[18:13] <chrisirc> ikonia, now tell me why that would fail.
[18:13] <ikonia> chrisirc: just carry on
[18:14] <g0to> jrib, yeah, I think that that was the problem
[18:15] <CorruptedHelix> Hello! Does anyone know how I would install the Plantronics 780 software in Ubuntu 12.10? The software for these headphones is required to take advantage of it's Dolby technology (7.1 surround sound).
[18:15] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: is there a linux package for the software ?
[18:15] <CorruptedHelix> I have tried using WINE to launch the executable in the disc's contentes.
[18:15] <CorruptedHelix> *contents
[18:15] <CorruptedHelix> I've looked around, but I don't think so.
[18:15] <g0to> jrib, I had this problem (http://askubuntu.com/questions/68327/why-does-truecrypt-ask-for-administrator-password) and I though that I could run it as a regular user
[18:15] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: I would not advise you to use wine like that to interact with hardware
[18:16] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: the sad truth is, they may not have linux support
[18:16] <CorruptedHelix> Regardless, I need a way to make it work. The setup fails to launch when launched with WINE.
[18:16] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: regardless of how much you want it to work, it's very probably that it will not work due to a lack of linux support
[18:17] <CorruptedHelix> That's unfortunate. :/
[18:17] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: just reading through some docs on the web, and it suggests that you can only use them in mac os / linux as normal 2 channel headphones
[18:17] <Adriannom> ikonia, i'm gonna guess that you are really trying to direct me to the troubleshooting link?  or what?  basically the device only exists under lspci, nowhere else.  iwconfig doesn't help
[18:18] <ikonia> Adriannom: no, I'm not trying to direct you to anything, I'm trying to ask you to read the information i've given you and then if you can't get it working, ask specific questions
[18:20] <Adriannom> ikonia, i guess i'm going to run out of time.  thanks for trying to help, i guess i wasted too much time on this before coming here.  shame i didn't find that link the first time.
[18:27] <bobbyz> CorruptedHelix: Your best bet is to poke around the ALSA mailing lists.  That type of USB headset is something that would need corresponding ALSA drivers on the linux side.  You'll probably be able to get it to do 2.1 surround, but until/unless it is supported by ALSA, it likely won't do 7.1
[18:28] <bobbyz> CorruptedHelix: but ALSA is definitely what would be responsible for the hardware support on the Linux side, so it's best to poke around at the source on that one (ALSA lists)
[18:28] <CorruptedHelix> bobbyz: Can I get direction on this? I'm a Linux noob. Otherwise, I've sent Plantronics a support email.
[18:28] <ikonia> bobbyz: docs suggest it will do 2.1, but that's it
[18:28] <bobbyz> CorruptedHelix: First question -- Do you have it working as a 2.1 surround headset yet under Linux?
[18:29] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: plantronics official line on that device is not supported on linux or mac os
[18:29] <CorruptedHelix> I'm testing that at the moment.
[18:30] <CorruptedHelix> The headset currently works in Ubuntu, tested audio with the Sound application. Not sure if it's set as default output, however
[18:30] <ikonia> actually plantronics do not seem to support any device on linux
[18:30] <CorruptedHelix> Regardless, I've just tested. The microphone and speakers themselves do work.
[18:31] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: basic functionality should be fine
[18:31] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: it's only the software layer that should fail
[18:31] <CorruptedHelix> I'd love to get that 7.1 surround working, if possible, but that's acceptable
[18:31] <ikonia> CorruptedHelix: I don't believe you will get that
[18:32] <bobbyz> CorruptedHelix: then as ikonia says, you'll probably have to live with 2.1.  Plantronics doesn't support that hardware under Linux.  The functioning 2.1 support you have right now is not thanks to Plantronics, but rather thanks to the ALSA project developers
[18:32] <bobbyz> CorruptedHelix: So while an ALSA developer could very well add 7.1 support in the future, it looks right now only 2.1 is supported
[18:34] <AlbinoGeek> Package php5 php5dev php-pear etc don't even exist?
[18:34] <AlbinoGeek> What gives?
[18:34] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: what do you mean, "what gives"
[18:34] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: there are numerous php packages
[18:34] <AlbinoGeek> Well, why don't they exist in the apt repo?
[18:34] <ikonia> !info php5
[18:34] <bobbyz> CorruptedHelix: Much of the hardware support on Linux does not come thanks to the original device manufacturers but rather from Linux community kernel developers that add support for the hardware themselves
[18:34] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: yes it does
[18:34] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: And php5dev ?
[18:34] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: that doesn't look like a valid name
[18:35] <AlbinoGeek> The "php5" package misses phpize and other base components required for pear.
[18:35] <AlbinoGeek> So... yeah.
[18:35] <AlbinoGeek> !info php5-dev
[18:35] <AlbinoGeek> Perhaps /
[18:35] <AlbinoGeek> Oh yeah, there we go.
[18:35] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: have you actually done a package search ?
[18:35] <Adriannom> ikonia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61?action=show&redirect=Rt61WirelessCardsHowTo <--- this is the main document i was working off.  so to answer your original question, "sudo iwlist ra0 scan" was the point that the document failed.  it returns "ra0       Interface doesn't support scanning."
[18:35] <ikonia> Adriannom: so rather than just coming in complaining about pacakges with the wrong names, open the package manager, and actually search
[18:35] <ikonia> oops
[18:35] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: Nope, I stay miles away from s*buntu
[18:35] <ikonia> Adriannom: that was for AlbinoGeek
[18:36] <Adriannom> ikonia, hehe ;)
[18:36] <ikonia> Adriannom: s*ubuntu ?
[18:36] <ikonia> oops
[18:36] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: s*ubuntu ?
[18:36] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: I won'
[18:36] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: won what ?
[18:36] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: I won't flame about ubuntu in the ubuntu channel *
[18:36] <Adriannom> lol
[18:36] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: sorry, i don't understand
[18:36] <AlbinoGeek> But yeah, not happy with it; wouldn't even use it at all if clients didn't have it on their servers.
[18:37] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: I'm asking you to look for packages using the search function, before complaining that they don't exist, because you've typed the wrong name
[18:37] <AlbinoGeek> So, besides knowing yum == apt-get ... yeah.
[18:37] <AlbinoGeek> Yeah, what is the search function in ubuntu ?
[18:37] <AlbinoGeek> Heh
[18:37] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: https://help.ubuntu.com - have a scan through the basic introduction to ubuntu
[18:37] <deung> the dash has an search modus
[18:37] <AlbinoGeek> apt-get search didn't return.
[18:38] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: it gives an overview to the basic desktop/server based functions
[18:38] <AlbinoGeek> I'll note as well this machine doesn't even have SSH.
[18:38] <hansi3482> Hey Guys why i m the only who is grey?
[18:38] <AlbinoGeek> And it also bitches constantly that it's not `precise`
[18:38] <AlbinoGeek> whatever that even means.
[18:38] <ikonia> hansi3482: what ?
[18:38] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: what complains ?
[18:38] <Adriannom> ikonia, are you a representative of ubuntu or just a random helper?
[18:38] <ikonia> Adriannom: random
[18:38] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: Every command complains that it's not precise.
[18:38] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: can you give me an example ?
[18:39] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: Right, if I go into their webmin and type: ping google.com
[18:39] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: that is not in ubuntu
[18:39] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: webmin.....
[18:39] <AlbinoGeek> It returns with a complaint about security updates, that the system isn't `precise` and that I should do-release-upgrade
[18:39] <quick-> hi ,the sound on my system is incresaing and decresing on its own and i am having trouble typing due to this . Can you please tell me how to stop this. I tried disabling the pulseaudio service but that didnt help. I am having a HP CQ 45 207 TU notebook
[18:39] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: sounds like they have hacked away at their machine
[18:39] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: I'd ask them to sort it out, as webmin is not a part of ubuntu
[18:40] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: >ubuntu
[18:40] <hansi3482> Can i make link from programs to my desk?
[18:40] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: Yeah, this guy doesn't know jack shit about linux.
[18:40] <ikonia> hansi3482: sure, there are desktop links
[18:41] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: please tone down the language, there is no need for it
[18:41] <Adriannom> ikonia, i did what you asked and told you which part of the document you linked me to didn't work.  is there anything more you need?
[18:41] <ikonia> Adriannom: what exactly didn't work
[18:41] <Adriannom> ikonia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61?action=show&redirect=Rt61WirelessCardsHowTo <--- this is the main document i was working off.  so to answer your original question, "sudo iwlist ra0 scan" was the point that the document failed.  it returns "ra0       Interface doesn't support scanning."
[18:41] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: Year sorry, not very happy with having to touch this distro whatsoever.
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> hansi3482, You might be more specific as to the app/programs you want to have a launcher for.
[18:42] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: When it is referring to 'precise', 'precise' is the name given for the most recent Ubuntu long-term support (LTS) release.  So complaints of not being 'precise' and about security updates indicate the server is running an older version of Ubuntu, possibly one that is outside of the support period
[18:42] <Adriannom> ikonia, just search that doc for "sudo iwlist ra0 scan" i guess...
[18:42] <hansi3482> sry for Firefox or Thunderbord
[18:42] <ikonia> Adriannom: are you using a ralink RT61 ?
[18:42] <Adriannom> " having trouble getting my wifi card to work.  ubuntu 12.10, lspci says "Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI".  compiled the ralink driver but iwconfig says no wifi card.  anyone have any ideas?"
[18:43] <ikonia> Adriannom: is the ralinmk driver you compiled actually loaded
[18:43] <Adriannom> ikonia, nope, not by the look of it
[18:43] <Adriannom> ikonia, no errors though
[18:43] <ikonia> Adriannom: how are you checking if it's loaded ?
[18:44] <Adriannom> ikonia, in fact, activating the module is further down that page
[18:44] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: I don't use webmin, so I can't help with webmin itself, but it is likely trying to alert you very loudly that the version of Ubuntu installed is old and is susceptible to security flaws.  If the release is outside of the support term, then it might not even get security patches anymore, so it might be trying to loudly suggest an upgrade to a version that receives security patches
[18:44] <Adriannom> ikonia, lsmod | grep rt
[18:44] <ikonia> Adriannom: ok, so have you tried loading it
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> hansi3482, I have not tried dragging but I believe if in unity you can drag them from the dash. http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/add-application-shortcuts-to-your-desktop-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/?ModPagespeed=noscript
[18:44] <quick-> join ubuntu-bugs
[18:45] <AlbinoGeek> bobbyz: Kind of hard to upgrade without SSH, or any means to enter commands though.
[18:45] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: I'd advise you not to upgrade
[18:45] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: as it sounds like your system has been modified, which means the upgrade process is not to be trusted
[18:46] <AlbinoGeek> Why is it that every Ubuntu machine I see is this "modified"...
[18:46] <AlbinoGeek> Oh well.
[18:46] <Adriannom> ikonia, hm... my mistake, the module does appear to be loaded
[18:46] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: I don't know your specific situation, but I'd side with ikonia and advise a reinstall on 12.04 server (LTS version, 'precise')
[18:46] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: ubuntu isn't modified, it's the people who run it that modified it, ask them
[18:46] <AlbinoGeek> bobbyz: If reinstall was an option, it wouldn't have Ubuntu and I wouldn't be here :/
[18:46] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: do you actually have a device called ra0 ?
[18:46] <Adriannom> ikonia, not under iwconfig
[18:46] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: There is no /dev/ra0  ; if that's what you mean.
[18:46] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: can we give the ubuntu hate a rest, it's getting really tedious
[18:47] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: sorry, that ra0 was for Adriannom
[18:47] <AlbinoGeek> Then again, there wasn't even a /dev until I pointed it.
[18:47] <AlbinoGeek> Because yeah, very "modified"
[18:47] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: there can't not be a /dev
[18:47] <Adriannom> ikonia, the wireless card isn't showing up under iwconfig
[18:47] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: "modified"
[18:47] <ikonia> Adriannom: what about ifconfig
[18:47] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: there can't not be a /dev
[18:47] <Adriannom> ikonia, nor ifconfig
[18:47] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: one thing I can say is that if you have root access through webmin, you should probably be able to install SSH via 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server'
[18:47] <ikonia> Adriannom: ok - can you pastebin the output of ifconfig -a please
[18:47] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: There wasn't a visible /<anything>  ; the entire "shell" (if you can call it that) was chrooted/jailed/some other magic in /home/admin
[18:47] <ikonia> Adriannom: (use sudo)
[18:48] <Kalios> anyone know anything about /dev/dvb i can see my tuner cards with lspci with drivers however no dvb
[18:48] <AlbinoGeek> bobbyz: Tried that, it said openssh-server didn't exist.
[18:48] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: ok - so that again, is someone modifiying it with a chroot, that doesn't mean there is no /dev
[18:48] <quick-> hi ,the sound on my system is incresaing and decresing on its own and i am having trouble typing due to this . Can you please tell me how to stop this. I tried disabling the pulseaudio service but that didnt help. I am having a HP CQ 45 207 TU notebook
[18:48] <Adriannom> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/9q9NZLdD
[18:48] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: I'd suggest talking to the people who run this, as you're not going to benifit from any of the standard ubuntu help
[18:48] <Adriannom> ikonia, both cards are wired
[18:49] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: Yeah, I have no idea; they're some Christian webhost (lit: "truefaith" is their name) and they've no idea about the server either.
[18:49] <ikonia> Adriannom: that does suggest the card is not active, normally because the module is not loaded
[18:49] <ikonia> Adriannom: ok, so I think you're done with this channel
[18:49] <AlbinoGeek> They said they installed Webmin via their sh, and that's it.  They haven't "modified" it past that according to their logs.
[18:49] <ikonia> Adriannom: sorry,
[18:49] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: so I think you're done with this channel as it's modified
[18:49] <ikonia> Adriannom: not you
[18:49] <Adriannom> ikonia, rt61 is under lsmod, and that's the module the document wants me to load
[18:49] <AlbinoGeek> ikonia: You need to type more than one character before pressing tab :P
[18:49] <ikonia> Adriannom: this sounds picky, but can you confirm that your card is actually an rt61
[18:50] <ikonia> AlbinoGeek: agreed
[18:50] <Adriannom> ikonia, all i currently know is "Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI" - could that be 2500 instead?
[18:50] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: cat /etc/lsb-release
[18:50] <ikonia> Adriannom: even so, I'd expect tha tmodule to support it
[18:51] <Adriannom> ikonia, :(
[18:51] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: See if that file exists or not, and what version of ubuntu you're on
[18:51] <AlbinoGeek> bobbyz: File not found ... moment, I'll sudo it
[18:51] <AlbinoGeek> "modified"  ugh.
[18:51] <AlbinoGeek> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS"
[18:51] <disPlay> hi
[18:52] <ikonia> Adriannom: just having a little research on that module
[18:52] <disPlay> why the clamtk version in the repos is not the latest?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> disPlay, latest compared to?
[18:53] <Adriannom> ikonia, thank you, because i'm out of my depth beyond this point
[18:53] <ikonia> Adriannom: I've personally never used that module so I'm flying a little blind, just give me a few minutes
[18:54] <disPlay> wilee, the latest version on the clamtk website is 4.44
[18:54] <ikonia> Adriannom: just out of interest, can you sudo rmmod that module ?
[18:54] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: Okay, that means you are on Lucid, the previous LTS version.  Now : grep 'lucid main' /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> disPlay, Ubuntu repackages apps to run in its OS, they only move so fast.
[18:55] <disPlay> ok thanks for the information.
[18:56] <Adriannom> ikonia, yup
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> sure;)
[18:56] <ikonia> Adriannom: ok, now do a sudo depmod -a
[18:56] <judahlion> blist
[18:56] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: And also grep 'lucid-security main' /etc/apt/sources.list.  I don't need to see the output...just want to confirm you have repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:56] <Adriannom> ikonia, running
[18:56] <Adriannom> ikonia, done
[18:56] <ikonia> Adriannom: is the module loaded now ?
[18:57] <Adriannom> ikonia, nope
[18:57] <AlbinoGeek> bobbyz: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted
[18:57] <AlbinoGeek> That's it.
[18:57] <ikonia> Adriannom: good, so sudo modprobe it
[18:57] <Adriannom> ikonia, done, it's back
[18:58] <ikonia> Adriannom: now lets look at sudo ifconfig -a again
[18:58] <Adriannom> ikonia, same
[18:58] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: Okay, so that means you're setup for apt.  Now : 'sudo apt-get update'  .  The package list is probably horribly outdated and needs update via that command
[18:58] <ikonia> Adriannom: that's frustrating/odd
[18:58] <AlbinoGeek> bobbyz: Says there's 0 to update, 2 to remove (old linux-headers linux-kernel, says to use autoremove etc.)
[18:59] <Adriannom> ikonia, here is the lsmod | grep rt: http://pastebin.com/P0aWZ7Lv
[18:59] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: that means you ran 'apt-get upgrade' and not 'apt-get update'
[18:59] <AlbinoGeek> bobbyz: sudo apt-get update
[18:59] <Adriannom> ikonia, only "rt61" is removed.  does that help?
[18:59] <AlbinoGeek> ;x
[18:59] <ikonia> Adriannom: that actually looks good
[18:59] <ikonia> Adriannom: bit of a random stab,
[18:59] <ikonia> Adriannom: considered a reboot,
[19:00] <ikonia> Adriannom: (shouldn't be needed but this is being odd)
[19:00] <judahlion> blist
[19:00] <Adriannom> ikonia, i rebooted before i came here but i could try
[19:00] <ikonia> judahlion: blist does nothing
[19:00] <ikonia> Adriannom: the depmod changes things
[19:00] <Adriannom> ikonia, brb
[19:01] <judahlion> ikonia: what should I use to see all the people who are online in IRSSI?
[19:01] <ikonia> judahlion: /who
[19:01] <ikonia> judahlion: worth joining #irssi channel for irssi help
[19:02] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: I lost my connection there, so I might have missed a response from you
[19:02] <judahlion> ikonia: good idea
[19:02] <Adriannom> ikonia, no change
[19:02] <ikonia> Adriannom: now that is annoying
[19:02] <bob3> Hello - does anyone know how to (easily) create a custom live cd? I heard about Reconstructor at http://build.reconstructor.org but it seems like it's not free.  Basically I'd like a live cd so when it boots up I already have - skype, truecrypt, the flash plugin for firefox, etc. already installed so I don't need to do this manually each time I start up the computer.
[19:02] <Adriannom> ikonia, looks like i'm outta time too
[19:02] <Adriannom> ikonia, thanks v much for trying
[19:02] <ikonia> Adriannom: can you come back
[19:02] <ikonia> Adriannom: I see you are on UK time - as me
[19:03] <ikonia> Adriannom: I'll be happy to do a little more research
[19:03] <Adriannom> ikonia, not tonight, but possibly tomorrow
[19:03] <the_hydra> bob3: try remastersys
[19:03] <ikonia> Adriannom: i'll do a little digging
[19:03] <ikonia> Adriannom: please feel free to ping me
[19:03] <bob3> the_hydra - thanks, I'll take a look
[19:03] <the_hydra> bob3: welcome
[19:04] <bobbyz> AlbinoGeek: anyway, the good news is that you are still on an LTS release (10.04), which still receives security updates, at least from Canonical/Ubuntu.  And if, after apt-get update, the server is saying that only a couple of packages need updating, then that's also good news, because unattended updates were probably on, and security updates were being installed automatically
[19:05] <AlbinoGeek> Yeah...
[19:05] <Adriannom> ikonia, thanks, i will :)
[19:06] <myersg> Hey, I am trying to install this one game using the ubuntu software centre It gets so far and just stops the progress bar and shows the install botton again.
[19:07] <myersg> bastion_1.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[19:07] <myersg> is the game
[19:07] <sam113101> why do I get no icon for gvim in the dash bar?
[19:07] <judahlion> myerg: can you click on the back arrow of the software center and then go back
[19:08] <atrius> what generates that MOTD with the load and IP information and such in it?
[19:09] <Mattiu> list
[19:12] <myersg> judahlion..It doesn't help
[19:12] <atrius> nm..found it
[19:13] <Marvel> i`ve upgraded to kernel 3.5.0-27. but my pc fails to boot! I've used the advanced option in grub to boot the previous kernel. whats the best way to downgrade permanently
[19:13] <sam113101> why do I get no icon for gvim in the dash bar?
[19:14] <ikonia> Marvel: remove the package
[19:14] <Marvel> from the software centre ?
[19:14] <ikonia> Marvel: whatever package manager you are happy with
[19:15] <Marvel> hmm I cant seem to find the package
[19:16] <sumo> ciao
[19:16] <sumo> !list
[19:18] <oliverp> When using diff to compare two directories (diff --brief -r dir1 dirt), will it compare binary files as well?
[19:19] <ralien> hello, i got a friend pc to fix but i'm not familiar with ubuntu
[19:19] <ralien> so i need some input
[19:20] <jhutchins_wk> oliverp: Yep.
[19:20] <oliverp> jhutchins_wk: ok! :)
[19:20] <the_hydra> ralien: spell it out
[19:20] <ralien> he's on runlevel 2 but lighdm does not start
[19:20] <ralien> it might be greeter problem
[19:21] <Mattiu> ciao a tutti
[19:21] <jhutchins_wk> ralien: Runlevels don't do much in ubuntu.
[19:21] <mjayk> any1 here a jeep ?
[19:21] <the_hydra> ralien: i guess the problem is his display is not properly configured
[19:22] <jhutchins_wk> ralien: Can you start it manually?
[19:22] <ralien> jhutchins_wk: i was dropped to tty
[19:22] <the_hydra> ralien: try to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:22] <ralien> so i checked runlevel first
[19:23] <muszek> hi... is it possible to remotely wake a computer from suspend? I guess not, but I'd love to be proven wrong :)
[19:23] <ralien> muszek google wake on lan
[19:23] <de> muszek, you can, wakeonlan
[19:23] <the_hydra> muszek: maybe via WOL (wake on LAN), but that's just a guess
[19:23] <muszek> ralien, de: does it need to be configured?
[19:23] <ralien> muszek bios
[19:23] <holstein> muszek: the hardware needs to support it, but i used to do it
[19:24] <muszek> crap, I need to configure it :)
[19:24] <ralien> the_hydra: can't see any errors, i can startx without any problems
[19:24] <ralien> lightdm.log shows that it successfully started
[19:25] <de> hey, what do i do if ls /sys/devices/cpu/  shows only : format  power  rdpmc  subsystem  type  uevent. and theres no cpu0 cpu1 etc? i cant set governor or anything
[19:25] <ralien> but later it just stops and exits
[19:25] <ralien> x-0-greeter has some errors
[19:26] <ralien> can unity greeter work on any driver like fbdev?
[19:26] <ralien> because my friend told me he was messing with xorg.conf
[19:26] <ralien> because he had screen issues
[19:27] <knite> I'm trying to compile an app from a git repo, which needs me to run ./autogen.sh before config and make. this fails with - configure.ac:102: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_MSG_ERROR on EC2. what package(s) am I missing?
[19:27] <the_hydra> ralien: frame buffer? I don't think so
[19:27] <knite> internet says aclocal, but I can't figure out what that's part of...
[19:28] <ralien> the_hydra: how do i know where is the problem?
[19:28] <ralien> i have no experience with this unity stuff
[19:29] <the_hydra> ralien: you said you saw no errors in Xorg.0.log? are you sure?
[19:29] <ralien> the_hydra: 0 errors, server terminated successfully
[19:29] <the_hydra> ralien: can you do : grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log and put the result in pastebin?
[19:30] <ralien> the_hydra: it's on unconnected pc, but i can try
[19:30] <the_hydra> ralien: who knows, maybe we can dig valuable info there
[19:31] <jhutchins_wk> ralien: So you haven't really described the problem. Does it go directly to console from boot?  Does it start the gui then drop to console?
[19:31] <jhutchins_wk> ralien: What heppened before this behavior started/
[19:31] <jhutchins_wk> ?
[19:31] <trism> knite: would be in the automake package, don't know if that is your issue though, would make sure you have autoconf, automake, and pkg-config
[19:32] <ralien> jhutchins_wk: log says it starts lightd successfully
[19:32] <ralien> jhutchins_wk: and i'm dropped to tty, because lightdm exits
[19:33] <ralien> jhutchins_wk: i checked greeter log and there are some errors
[19:33] <knite> @trism: thanks for replying. autoconf and automake are installed, pkg-config doesn't seem to be available (yum).
[19:35] <trism> knite: it's in main so shouldn't be hard to find
[19:35] <dreamon> Want to start. 4 programs on different position. 2 terminal windows. one firefox and one geany. how can I position them by bash? gnome-terminal --geometry -> works. but the other?
[19:35] <MartynKe-> bkfitz...u there?
[19:36] <knite> @trism my bad, checked for pkg-config. pkgconfig is installed.
[19:37] <trism> knite: is it a public git repo? (I'll take a look and see if it works here if so)
[19:38] <sam113101> where can I find a .desktop file for gvim?
[19:38] <knite> @trism yep, I'm killing two birds with one stone - learning about bitcoin and EC2 by compiling a miner. https://github.com/pooler/cpuminer
[19:39] <knite> (not expecting to profit, to pre-empt those comments. :-) )
[19:39] <myersg> how do I update my open source graphics?
[19:39] <myersg> opengl or something like that?
[19:39] <theadmin> myersg: Just run the Update Manager, check for upgrades.
[19:39] <theadmin> myersg: And install them, obviously
[19:40] <myersg> ok
[19:40] <ralien> the_hydra jhutchins_wk http://pastebin.com/zhZGu2Hf
[19:41] <MartynKe-> hey...im running ubuntu server and i do not want a GUI. if i do sudo apt-get install gedit, it mentions 130mb of dependencies...seems a lot for an editor in the gui. any other ideas?
[19:41] <MartynKe-> all i need to do is edit a conf file
[19:41] <DJones> MartynKe-: Use nano rather than gedit
[19:42] <theadmin> MartynKe-: Use vim, nano or emacs, or any other of the console editors.
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> MartynKe-  gedit is for use within a gui
[19:42] <MartynKe-> ah nano! thanks
[19:42] <MartynKe-> im new! ;)
[19:42] <DJones> MartynKe-: To install gedit, you need to install a GUI, so its probably pulling in the entire gnome/unity desktops
[19:42] <theadmin> DJones: Won't pull in the desktop, but at least Xorg and GTK...
[19:42] <theadmin> DJones: Which is a lot already
[19:43] <krabador> hi, people i would to know if it's normal that zsync process are slower than the complete dowload if the iso from the same server
[19:43] <MartynKe-> how do i exit nano?
[19:43] <theadmin> MartynKe-: The shortcuts are at the bottom. ^ means Ctrl, M- means Alt.
[19:43] <joaco> C-X
[19:43] <theadmin> MartynKe-: As such, Ctrl-X.
[19:44] <trism> knite: think I worked it out, misleading error message, it is failing on missing a libcurl macro, so you need one of the libcurl dev packages
[19:44] <MartynKe-> thanks ;)
[19:44] <trism> knite: I went with libcurl4-gnutls-dev, seemed to do the job
[19:44] <knite> how did you figure that out?
[19:45] <trism> knite: looked at the configure.ac file at line 102
[19:45] <extropianpirate> could someone help me? i'm trying to use dual monitors with an intel hd 2500 built into my core i5, they're currently mirrored, but system settings and xrandr only detects one monitor. the monitors are connected via DVI and HDMI ports on the back of my comp, Kubuntu 13.04 beta
[19:46] <theadmin> extropianpirate: 13.04 is not supported here, go to #ubuntu+1
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> some nick "extropianpirate"
[19:46] <extropianpirate> is there any way to downgrade from 13.04 to 12.10?
[19:47] <theadmin> extropianpirate: No, you'll have to reinstall.
[19:47] <xcvt01> hello
[19:48] <afreakkl> I just installed debian from CD , 12.10 I think, and it never during the install asked what I wanted the root pw to be(It asked what i wanted as usr pw) .. And now I dont know what my root pw is
[19:49] <knite> @trism. heh, deep, I must be tired. package author recommends libcurl4-openssl-dev, which doesn't come up on a yum search but does appear online at packages.ubuntu.com. do I need to add an additional repository to yum or enable access to a dev toolchain?
[19:49] <knite> derp*
[19:49] <DJones> afreakkl: Did you install debian or ubuntu? They're two different operating systems
[19:49] <escott> afreakkl, this isn't the debian channel and
[19:49] <MartynKe-> how do i back one directory folder?
[19:49] <escott> !root | afreakkl
[19:49] <BluesKaj> afreakkl:  debian or ubuntu ?
[19:49] <afreakkl> I mean ubuntu lol
[19:49] <MartynKe-> cd ???
[19:49] <afreakkl> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso
[19:50] <the_hydra> ralien: that is all? so far I see no errors
[19:50] <MartynKe-> nvm got it
[19:50] <DJones> afreakkl: Ubuntu doesn't use a root password, you use the password you gave the first user to gain admin privileges
[19:50] <Mattiu> scusate come si entra nelle liste grazie
[19:50] <trism> knite: it's in main too, not sure why you're using yum unless you aren't using ubuntu. On ubuntu should just be: sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev;
[19:50] <ralien> the_hydra: jhutchins_wk http://pastebin.com/DtKrEbt9
[19:50] <Kalios> anyone know anything about /dev/dvb i can see my tuner cards with lspci with drivers however no dvb
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> !it | MartynKe-
[19:50] <ralien> the_hydra: there are 0 errors in X log, i told you
[19:50] <afreakkl> DJones : when i write su it asks for pw, and the user pw doesnt work
[19:50] <theadmin> afreakkl: Use sudo, not su.
[19:51] <ralien> the_hydra: the problem lies somewhere between lightdm, unity
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> !it | Mattiu
[19:51] <afreakkl> oh ok
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> afreakkl, The user is the super user access you will  just sudo appropriate commands and enter the user password. Ubuntu has not root password and don't make one it is not designed for one.
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> the admin user that is
[19:51] <afreakkl> oh ok thank you :p
[19:51] <theadmin> afreakkl: Example: "sudo apt-get install firefox" instead of "su ; apt-get install firefox". To get a behaviour similar to su, you can use "sudo -i"
[19:51] <afreakkl> :D ima go install some drivers then
[19:52] <BluesKaj> afreakkl: when you were installing you were asked for a username and password , do you recall them ?
[19:52] <afreakkl> ye
[19:54] <Pleuguin> I'm trying to use apache mod_gnutls and it just does not work, anything I should be aware of ? It seems like the directives get parsed correctly, but mod_gnutls filters never get called
[19:58] <MartynKe-> in relation to this command: CREATE USER 'wordpress'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'wordpress'; <---- does that imply that IDENTIFIED BY '****' is the passwordd??
[19:59] <theadmin> MartynKe-: Yes.
[19:59] <MartynKe-> thanks!
[20:03] <bja> is there a way to configure which compiler options dkms rebuilds kernel modules with?
[20:03] <tyler_wylie> Is there an IRC channel setup for Ubuntu Tablet yet? Lookin around for it on the webs
[20:04] <theadmin> tyler_wylie: #ubuntu-touch
[20:04] <tyler_wylie> theadmin: Much thanks!
[20:05] <tony_> hi
[20:06] <Pleuguin> looks like it'/quit
[20:07] <MartynKe-> how can i enable sftp on a ubuntu server (no GUI)
[20:07] <MartynKe-> or or ssh?
[20:07] <holstein> !ssh
[20:07] <theadmin> MartynKe-: Basically sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[20:08] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[20:08] <MartynKe-> thanks. it wont load a gui will it?
[20:08] <holstein> MartynKe-: read what is about to be installed, and make sure are agree
[20:09] <BluesKaj> ssh is command line
[20:09] <theadmin> MartynKe-: No it won't, why the heck would it?
[20:10] <BluesKaj> sftp is gui if you use the network folder option, MartynKe-
[20:10] <MartynKe-> just curious dude. not done this before.
[20:14] <bkfitz> Anyone familiar with Cloud print options and integration with UBUNTU?
[20:16] <Yokobr> guys, i'm recieving this message ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.7.0-7-generic is not supported
[20:17] <Yokobr> while installing fglrx
[20:18] <theadmin> Yokobr: You're using an unsupported kernel...
[20:18] <bja> I'm actually seeing something similar with virtualbox, and it has nothing to do with unsupported
[20:18] <bja> and everything to do with the module not compiling
[20:19] <theadmin> bja: Yes it does. 3.7 is NOT a supported kernel in Ubuntu. It's from a third-party.
[20:19] <bja> (check your make.log)
[20:19] <theadmin> (or maybe they're using Raring which isn't exactly supported either, not here anyway)
[20:20] <Yokobr> nevermind, just fixed it by myself
[20:22] <bja> theadmin, if a proper kernel-headers has been installed and the module compiled, you would not see that message
[20:33] <afreakkl> is it really tricky to install nvidia drivers for ubuntu 12.10 ?
[20:33] <Noskcaj> afreakkl, no drivvers are hard to install, except AMD legacy
[20:34] <afreakkl> I did this http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html but im not even sure if its installed yet,, shows unknown graphics under system , and the HDMI output doesnt work
[20:35] <deadmund> If I ssh to another machine (that I am logged into via the gui) who I can I open gui applications on the remote machine using the ssh connection?
[20:37] <theadmin> deadmund: export DISPLAY=:0 and then just like normally.
[20:37] <deadmund> theadmin: thanks
[20:37] <PatrickDickey> theadmin: I'm guessing you do that in the ssh terminal window, right? (after you've logged in)
[20:38] <theadmin> deadmund: (:0 is the default, but see whatever display your actual X server uses by running echo $DISPLAY inside of an X terminal)
[20:38] <deadmund> theadmin: Thanks!
[20:38] <meteors2313> Hey everyone I want to get my nickname registered
[20:39] <meteors2313> Can anyone help me out and guide for the same?
[20:39] <sonOfRa> /msg nickserv help
[20:39] <DJones> !register | meteors2313
[20:39] <Soru> Hello
[20:40] <meteors2313> !register | meteors2313
[20:40] <Soru> Someone knows how to install dungeon defenders from the humble bundle? I got this when I try to execute it, because when I click it, doesn't happens: bash: ./dundef-linux-03052013.mojo.run: File or directory doesn't exists.
[20:41] <theadmin> Soru: You're not in the right directory or you typed the file name wrong.
[20:42] <Soru> theadmin: But if I tab it, it writes the name for me, so i'm on the right directory :S
[20:42] <theadmin> Soru: Err. That's odd.
[20:42] <sonOfRa> Soru: maybe it has unresolved dependencies? I had a similar problem once with the android developer packages
[20:42] <theadmin> Soru: Is it executable?
[20:42] <Soru> Yes
[20:42] <Soru> theadmin: yes
[20:42] <sonOfRa> It had unresolved dependencies, and the error it showed when trying to execute was that the file of the executable could not be found
[20:43] <Jordan_U> Soru: Please post the exact error message, copied and pasted, rather than a paraphrase.
[20:44] <theadmin> Soru: sonOfRa makes a valid point. Use ldd to check what the executable depends on, see if you have all those libs.
[20:44] <acollins> If I see a setsockopt error -22105 in a log file, how do I work out what it means? I can't see it in any man pages and googling doesn't match anything meaningful.
[20:44] <Soru> Jordan_U: ash: ./dundef-linux-03052013.mojo.run: File or directory doesn't exists.
[20:44] <Soru> theadmin: sonOfRa: Ok, thanks. Let's see..
[20:45] <Soru> theadmin: It's not a dinamic executable
[20:45] <Jordan_U> Soru: I'm surprised to see such a basic error message that is gramattically incorrect...
[20:45] <Soru> Jordan_U: Sorry, I don't have it in English
[20:45] <Soru> Jordan_U: I do my best
[20:45] <theadmin> Soru: LANG=C
[20:46] <Soru> Ahhh ok
[20:46] <Soru> bash: ./dundef-linux-03052013.mojo.run: No such file or directory
[20:46] <Jordan_U> Soru: Whenever you're modifying output that someone has asked for to debug a problem, make sure that you explain that you have modified it (in this case, translated it).
[20:47] <Soru> theadmin: Now, the correct is: not a dynamic executable
[20:47] <Jordan_U> Soru: That's probably because it's a 32 bit executable but you're missing 32 bit libraries.
[20:48] <Soru> Jordan_U: Sorry, thank you.
[20:48] <Jordan_U> Soru: No problem :) You're welcome.
[20:49] <Soru> Jordan_U: Do you know what packages I need for downloading the 32 bit libraries?
[20:49] <tay1> how do you guys get into this channel using ubuntu? i tried using xchat
[20:49] <tay1> but there was some error message about sasl
[20:50] <sefsef> i am on using Ubuntu
[20:50] <tay1> what are you using?
[20:50] <tay1> which client
[20:51] <sefsef> and how did you install xchat?
[20:51] <MartynKe-> hey quick question about the server role LAMP. is it best to install these components individually AFTER a server 12.04 install OR DURING the install??
[20:51] <tay1> from the ubuntu software store
[20:52] <theadmin> MartynKe-: Doesn't matter at all really.
[20:52] <huttan> MartynKe-: either way is fine, personally i like to do it manually
[20:53] <tay1> cmon there has to be someone who is using xchat on ubuntu
[20:53] <Soru> I'm using Quassel
[20:53] <tay1> do you need to configure it or do anything to get it to working?
[20:54] <huttan> tay1: it should simply be: sudo apt-get install xchat
[20:54] <MartynKe-> ok, well I'm thinking if i let it do it DURING the install, i can then do an apt-get update or apt-get upgrade right??
[20:55] <MartynKe-> I'm new to this, sorry if the question is dumb!
[20:55] <huttan> MartynKe-: yeah ofcourse
[20:55] <sefsef> Do sudo apt-get update first
[20:55] <sefsef> that way you get the latest version upon insta..
[20:55] <sefsef> ll
[20:56] <tay1> do you hvae to configure it?
[20:56] <MartynKe-> ok cool. well i'll go for the auto install during setup and then do the update & upgrade. my intention is to get a wordpress site on here
[20:56] <huttan> tay1: no, its already built for ubuntu when u get it through apt
[20:56] <sefsef> to do both at once, do it this way:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[20:58] <roland-> hey, is there a way to install some minimal version of ubuntu ? and install other things manualt
[20:58] <roland-> manual
[20:58] <DJones> !minimal | roland-
[20:59] <theadmin> Speaking of the alternate/minimal installer, is this debian-installer or just Ubiquity that looks like debian-installer?
[20:59] <tay1> it said it wa salready the latest
[21:00]  * _goxxsy_ veche drugari ! :-) :D
[21:00] <roland-> 12.04 works with uefi?
[21:00] <holstein> !uefi
[21:01] <theadmin> roland-: Yes, if you're using automatic partitioning you shan't worry about anything, if you're doing it manually see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[21:03] <sai93> is there anything that is similar to itunes in ubuntu?
[21:04] <holstein> sai93: yes
[21:04] <Jordan_U> sai93: There are many music players / media libraries / whatever applications, including some with integrated Music/Video "stores".
[21:05] <sai93> any examples?
[21:05] <BluesKaj> !rs | _goxxsy_
[21:05] <holstein> sai93: many.. can you load up a live CD?
[21:05] <_goxxsy_> :-) Thanks
[21:05] <sai93> i am using ubuntu now..
[21:06] <holstein> sai93: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes is a little dated
[21:06] <Jordan_U> !players | sai93
[21:07] <holstein> sai93: depends on the question.. if its "how can i manage my ipod?", that is quite different than "what can i play my music in?"
[21:07] <sai93> its more of what can i play my music in..i want the same ux as of itunes..
[21:08] <holstein> sai93: ux?
[21:08] <sai93> ya same design..
[21:09] <Jordan_U> sai93: Rather than looking for something "like iTunes", I would recommend just trying multiple players and looking for one you like.
[21:09] <holstein> sai93: depends.. if you want itunes, you really should just run itunes.. there are many players
[21:09] <sai93> something that shows the entire music library in a decent way so i can access everything easily..
[21:10] <theadmin> sai93: Ubuntu's Rhythmbox that comes with the default install can do that...
[21:10] <holstein> sai93: the file manager shows my music library.. many of the players do that.. i would start with the default one and go to the popular ones
[21:10] <karna8alistis-> -
[21:11] <sai93> the rythmbox is not very good in that aspect..i guess i have to try a few alternatives..
[21:11] <Jordan_U> sai93: Many players do that, though of course yours and my definition of "in a decent way" differ. For example, for my uses iTunes is a very poor fit whereas quod libet is great, but my uses are probably very different from yours.
[21:11] <holstein> sai93: so, thats one you dont like... or havent learned to configure.. banshee is another, and that is a nice list above ^^
[21:11] <BluesKaj> !cantata
[21:12] <sai93> ya i guess i am going to try some and find the ones that i like..thanks..
[21:12] <_goxxsy_> bora1 veche drug ! :-) :D
[21:12] <bora1> goxxsy vece i pozdrav
[21:12] <Nexus_Russia> Hi all. Please tell me how to enable font smoothing in Wine? Sorry for bad english: ()
[21:13] <_goxxsy_> :-)
[21:13] <bora1> :)))
[21:13] <theadmin> sai93: You can run iTunes in Ubuntu. See !wine
[21:13] <sai93> ya i heard it is not very effective..but will give it a try..
[21:14] <theadmin> sai93: "effective" is relative. Some software runs better than in Windows, some other fails completely.
[21:14] <bora1> goxxsy ovde nemas sem nas iz yge:)
[21:14] <theadmin> bora1: English, please.
[21:14] <theadmin> Nexus_Russia: I don't think wine can do that :(
[21:15] <bora1> theadmin znam Al necu ovo je moj maternji:)
[21:15] <theadmin> ...
[21:15] <Blacklite_> ?
[21:16] <bobbyz> Nexus_Russia: Use winetricks
[21:16] <theadmin> Ohh
[21:16] <theadmin> Right.
[21:16] <cakeboss> Hey all. I am trying to send emails from terminal (no smtp server) using sendEmail. However I am getting a refused connection. Can anyone help me accomplish what I need done (that is, can anyone help me figure a way to send emails w/o an smpt server)
[21:16] <Blacklite_> bora1 what language was that?
[21:16] <theadmin> Anyone know what bora1 is speaking? Send them to the right channel, please.
[21:16] <Kurza> that's serbian
[21:16] <pawiecki> Hi i have a question: How can i turn on and setup an old, wireless pc card (pcmcia)? It was detected and used while installing but now i can't get it to work (using cli)
[21:17] <bobbyz> Nexus_Russia: 'sudo apt-get install winetricks', then winetricks, select default wineprefix, change settings, and select the font smoothing you want
[21:18] <melkor> When I use the 3.8 kernel, my microphone doesn't work.
[21:18] <bora1> It was the Serbian :)
[21:18] <PatrickDickey> bobbyz: Isn't winetricks installed automatically with wine anymore?
[21:18] <Blacklite_> On zna da je tvoja majka , u redu.
[21:18] <theadmin> melkor: That's not a supported kernel on Ubuntu.
[21:18] <bobbyz> PatrickDickey: it might be, I don't know.  Apt-get install will be a no-op if it's there already, though
[21:18] <Blacklite_> how is my serbian?
[21:18] <PatrickDickey> melkor: Are you using Raring by chance, or did you compile it yourself?
[21:18] <melkor> PatrickDickey: neither, I'm using mainline.
[21:19] <theadmin> melkor: The kernel for Quantal is 3.5, which is the latest one can support here.
[21:19] <bora1> Keep it be great))
[21:19] <melkor> Is raring going to be 3.7?
[21:20] <Blacklite_> силли Срби. зар они не знају да је ово енглеског канал?
[21:20] <theadmin> !info linux-image-generic raring
[21:20] <bora1> Blacklite_:)))
[21:20] <melkor> Thanks.
[21:20] <theadmin> melkor: 3.8, apparently.
[21:20] <Blacklite_> nice.
[21:20] <PatrickDickey> melkor: You might be able to get help in #ubuntu+1 then.
[21:21] <Blacklite_> 我是中国人吗？
[21:21] <theadmin> Blacklite_: Please refrain from breaking dumb terminals in English-speaking channels :P
[21:22] <Blacklite_> oh. sorry.
[21:22] <grex_25> there are local channels for your languahes
[21:22] <Blacklite_> I'm using konversation, I didn'
[21:22] <Blacklite_> t
[21:22] <Blacklite_>  realise.
[21:22] <PatrickDickey> Blacklite_: I'll have you know, it was a goat. :P (sarcastic translation of whatever you typed)
[21:22] <theadmin> Blacklite_: Nah I'm on quassel but saying for others
[21:23] <Blacklite_> srry everybody with terminal irc clients.
[21:23] <Blacklite_> I meant no harm
[21:23] <theadmin> Blacklite_: dumb terminals. Those that kinda break when you give them something they can't read... I don't think they exist anymore
[21:23] <theadmin> lol
[21:23] <PatrickDickey> Blacklite_: You might be able to do it in ubuntu-offtopic though.
[21:23] <theadmin> Whatever, let's get back on topic
[21:24] <edd_> Can someone help me with few issues am having with unbuntu storing shite loads of logs and crashing up my server :S
[21:24] <theadmin> edd_: Make sure you have logrotate installed.
[21:24]  * PatrickDickey although it's useful to know you can do it (the different languages) so you can direct someone to the right language channel.
[21:25] <edd_> yeah  theadmin  i have i even just ran it in the console
[21:25] <theadmin> edd_: Hmm... That's odd then, but you can clean out the logs manually (rm -rf /var/log/*)
[21:25] <edd_> Someone said my var/logs is full and i have no idea what do with it as i dont have gui :(
[21:25] <PatrickDickey> edd_: along with what theadmin said, I'd install webadmin. You can delete your logs through it, and probably disable logging in some of the applications.
[21:25] <edd_> PatrickDickey: i have webmin
[21:25] <edd_> where is it that would be fantastic
[21:26] <PatrickDickey> edd_: I'll look at mine. I know that it has modules like logwatch or similar. And I think in the individual servers, you can disable logging.
[21:26] <Blacklite_> I'm using OpenSUSE, rage at me if you dare
[21:27] <edd_> Ok thanks PatrickDickey  this is 5th ive fixed it am running out of things to delete here :( and most of wemin gives me errors "Failed to open /etc/webmin/logrotate/version for writing : No space left on device"
[21:28] <jocelyn> is there a way to upgrade 10.10 apt-get update fails as well as upgrade
[21:29] <Blacklite_> yeah, liveCD - then install
[21:29] <Blacklite_> after backing up, of course
[21:29] <theadmin> jocelyn: Not really... You'd have to update to 11.04 but that's EOL too so not much you can do.
[21:29] <theadmin> jocelyn: So yeah, reinstall
[21:29] <PatrickDickey> edd_: What I'm seeing is in logrotate on Webmin, you can force it to clear the logs out now (rotate them). You can look at the individual servers to see how to disable logging.
[21:29] <edd_> ok
[21:29] <edd_> i will delete stuff thne i can access that
[21:30] <torpet> hello, is it possible to install ubuntu in uefi-mode while windows 7 installed on a separate disk but uses mbr-partitiongin?
[21:30] <torpet> will the uefi bootloader be able to chainload the conventional windows-install?
[21:30] <theadmin> torpet: Sure, why not.
[21:30] <jocelyn> eek is there a repo i can just  grab dep files from
[21:30] <theadmin> torpet: Ah, as for the bootloader I'm not sure. But it's on a different HD.
[21:30] <theadmin> jocelyn: For 10.10? No, because it's EOL. They all were taken down.
[21:31] <edd_> PatrickDickey: where about is this
[21:31] <zzzev> hey all, i'm writing a bash script to set up a basic set of software non-interactively on a fresh ubuntu install, but i run into a grub error (loses track of original install location) that requires me to interactively set the install devices for grub. i can interactively fix the problem by running dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, but im looking for a non-interactive way to set it (i know it needs to be /dev/sda)
[21:31] <PatrickDickey> edd, you have to install the module (Log File Rotation) in webmin. Then it's under System.
[21:31] <theadmin> zzzev: Can't you just use "grub-install /dev/sda")
[21:31] <ikonia> edd_: I assume you know webmin is not supported on ubuntu ?
[21:32] <edd_> it is
[21:32] <jocelyn> theadmin,  ok thanks
[21:32] <edd_> Am using it...
[21:32] <ikonia> edd_: it's not
[21:32] <ikonia> !webmin | edd_
[21:32] <zzzev> @theadmin: no, unfortunately that doesn't seem to set it permanently, i believe the comment on this answer refers to what i need to do, but its not descriptive: http://askubuntu.com/a/91644
[21:32] <edd_> :S
[21:32] <Blacklite_> !derp
[21:32] <edd_> worked for 12 weeks?
[21:32] <edd_> Now its not :/
[21:32] <theadmin> edd_: The fact that it works doesn't mean it's supported.
[21:32] <theadmin> !wfm | edd_
[21:33] <edd_> Ok
[21:33] <edd_> il look into it
[21:33] <edd_> for now id like my site back running :S
[21:34] <brjc> yo.
[21:34] <MartynKe-> hey so I'm editing my ipaddress in the interface conf file…how do i save it?
[21:34] <MartynKe-> i set it to static, but i need to save it now
[21:34] <ikonia> MartynKe-: it's just a text file, how you save it will depend on your editor
[21:34] <PatrickDickey> edd what I'd say to do right now, is go into /var/log and either delete everything in it, or keep the most recent version of every log.
[21:34] <ikonia> MartynKe-: are you using a desktop ?
[21:35] <MartynKe-> cli
[21:35] <MartynKe-> i just Worte my dns servers in and now i need to save.
[21:35] <ikonia> MartynKe-: so you don't have a desktop running ?
[21:35] <PatrickDickey> MartynKe-: what editor are you using? vi, nano, emacs, etc?
[21:35] <theadmin> MartynKe-: What editor are you using? Depends. In vim, it's :w, in nano, it's Ctrl-O, in emacs it's Ctrl-X Ctrl-S. In editors for mortals, it's Ctrl-S.
[21:35] <MartynKe-> pretty svim
[21:35] <edd_> PatrickDickey: i only have console and webmin
[21:35] <MartynKe-> vim
[21:35] <PatrickDickey> Probably :w then MartynKe-
[21:36] <MartynKe-> that just types a : and a "w" ?
[21:36] <zzzev> sorry to bump the same question; but can anyone explain what the comment on this answer means (the debconf bit)? http://askubuntu.com/a/91644
[21:36] <theadmin> MartynKe-: ...exit the insert mode
[21:36] <theadmin> MartynKe-: Escape.
[21:36] <PatrickDickey> edd, cd /var/log ls -l (to see what's there) and either rm -f *.* or start deleting manually.
[21:36] <MartynKe-> says recording
[21:36] <theadmin> MartynKe-: Don't use vim unless you know how... You could ruin some stuff. It takes learning.
[21:36] <ikonia> MartynKe-: why are you using a server install if you can't use the basics of a text editor
[21:37] <ikonia> MartynKe-: why not run this on a desktop with helpful tools ?
[21:37] <theadmin> ikonia: vim isn't exactly your common text editor, eh
[21:37] <MartynKe-> i got it. thanks
[21:37]  * PatrickDickey prefers nano over vim and emacs...  But has to get used to vim for a class next Fall.
[21:38] <theadmin> PatrickDickey: Here's a good way to learn: http://vim-adventures.com (needs a GUI browser with sane HTML5 support, though)
[21:38] <edd_> PatrickDickey: no such directory /var/logs
[21:38] <PatrickDickey> MartynKe-: for future reference when it comes to vim, you could go to linux-tips.com and download their graphical cheat sheet for it.
[21:39] <PatrickDickey> edd_: try /var/log I didn't get my 23 hours of sleep today, so my brain is a bit foggy. :)
[21:39] <MartynKe-> thanks patrick!!
[21:39] <edd_> tah
[21:39] <edd_> now ill delete it all
[21:39] <edd_> balls to it
[21:39] <PatrickDickey> theadmin: would Google Chrome be sane enough for the site?
[21:39] <theadmin> PatrickDickey: Most certainly :)
[21:39] <YokoBR> guys, i'm downgrading to 12.04 to support amd legacy drivers.. xserver is 1.12 on 12.04, right?
[21:40]  * PatrickDickey really wonders if I'm sane enough for the site. :P
[21:40] <ikonia> YokoBR: you need to re-install
[21:40] <ikonia> YokoBR: you can't downgrade
[21:40] <theadmin> YokoBR: "X -version" tells me "X.Org X Server 1.11.3"
[21:40] <edd_> PatrickDickey:  i think it did it mate :S
[21:40] <YokoBR> ikonia, yeah, i mean reinstall
[21:40] <edd_> this is 6th time ive fixed it though
[21:40] <ikonia> YokoBR: that's fine, just checking
[21:40] <roland-> 12.04 has gnome 2 or 3?
[21:41] <theadmin> roland-: GNOME 3 with the !unity shell.
[21:41] <ThinkT510> roland-: 3
[21:41] <YokoBR> ikonia, it's such a shame that amd won't realease legacy drivers for 1.13 above
[21:41] <roland-> :(
[21:41] <PatrickDickey> edd_: next time, before you delete everything, find out what all is logging there. And then google the different applications to find out how to disable logging. Or how to limit the size of the logs.
[21:41] <edd_> ok mate thanks
[21:41] <ThinkT510> roland-: 10.04 is the only currently supported lts with gnome2 (and that desktop support ends next month)
[21:42] <edd_> am checking virtual server now to see what i can turn off
[21:42] <theadmin> roland-: Ubuntu has an official Xfce version, called Xubuntu. It's extremely similar to Gnome2, try it.
[21:42] <roland-> i like xfce
[21:42] <sidm> quit
[21:42] <PatrickDickey> YokoBR: It's a case of they claim that they've maxxed out the graphics cards capabilities. In reality, it's also a case of "We want you to buy new cards."
[21:42] <edd_> Log file is empty
[21:42] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: I'd appreciate you not making things up about vendors
[21:42] <edd_> am getting the hang of this
[21:42]  * PatrickDickey likes LXDE also
[21:42] <roland-> used it before, but instead of xubuntu I can use ubuntu minimal and apt-get install xfce4 right?
[21:42] <edd_> TY PatrickDickey
[21:43] <edd_> tytytytytytytytytyty <3
[21:43] <FloodBot1> edd_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:43] <ThinkT510> roland-: yes
[21:43] <theadmin> roland-: That works too.
[21:44] <edd_> PatrickDickey:  the flootbot told me i should thank you like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5641497/ :)
[21:44] <PatrickDickey> Sorry, I should have put IMO after my comment. As, the second portion was purely my opinion.
[21:44] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: there is no need to make any comment
[21:45] <PatrickDickey> edd_: Not a problem. Of course you need to thank a few others. They were pointing you in that direction as well.
[21:45] <phenrique> i want recover two HD volumes of my computer. It had windows. What is the best linux distribution for do it?
[21:45] <edd_> True, thanks everyone else also :P
[21:45] <AdvoWork> anyone got any ideas why when i'm copying lots of files from an iphone 4 to my local drive, it hangs after a while and stops transfering? can't work out whats going on..
[21:45] <ikonia> phenrique: any should work fine
[21:45] <edd_> Lets hope fix 6 fixes the issue
[21:46] <AdvoWork> im using ubuntu 12.10
[21:47] <PatrickDickey> edd_: Eventually you'll have to clean out the directory again. You'll want to go through the individual applications though, and disable logging if you don't need it.
[21:47] <melkor> AdvoWork: what are you using to copy?
[21:47] <edd_> ok well am in webmin now it looks like everythign is making logs haha
[21:48] <phenrique> ikonia, is there any small distribuition what mount all partitions?
[21:48] <ThinkT510> !webmin | edd_
[21:48] <ikonia> phenrique: well, any of the ubuntu based ones should work
[21:48] <edd_> ubottu: what can i use instead?
[21:48] <AdvoWork> melkor, just in nautilis. i plug the phone in, it mounts the phone, lists as afc or acf:// or something similar  and then i go into it, then dcim and try and copy the photos
[21:48] <edd_> fml
[21:49] <PatrickDickey> edd_: You could google webmin alternatives and see which ones are supported on ubuntu, if any.
[21:49] <edd_> will do
[21:49] <edd_> for now ill jsut get by on this
[21:49] <edd_> its only my uni project
[21:49] <edd_> www.armygunz.com
[21:49] <FloodBot1> edd_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <edd_> testuser - testaccount
[21:49] <edd_> FloodBot1: I LIKE THE ENTER BUTTON GET OVER IT
[21:49] <xodiak> Just installed ubuntu 12.10. Graphics experience seems okay mostly. Until I move a window around the desktop. Very jerky and kind of laggish. Any ideas?
[21:50] <ikonia> edd_: please calm down
[21:50] <edd_> PatrickDickey:  awstats? this is probs the cause there is masses of info
[21:50] <PatrickDickey> edd_: It's an automated script. They do that, because it can disrupt the chat room. And depending on how the flooding is done, it can knock people out of the room.
[21:50] <jhutchins_wk> edd_: logrotate should be installed and should prevent the log directory from filling up.  You might want to look at why it's not.  Possibly something webmin messed um.
[21:50] <jhutchins_wk> messed up.
[21:51] <edd_> Oh ill save tha tin note pad and get on that tomoz i forgot about that pat did say
[21:51] <edd_> ty
[21:52] <AdvoWork> melkor, any suggestions?
[21:53] <melkor> AdvoWork: maybe check dmesg?
[21:53] <melkor> Does the phone go to sleep or change states while you are copying?
[21:54] <AdvoWork> nou, nothing, i even turned off auto lock incase it was that, ill check dmseg
[21:54] <PatrickDickey> edd_ you might look at Zentyal http://www.zentyal.org It's a Small Business Server that runs on Ubuntu. Kind of a Microsoft Small Business Server replacement.
[21:55] <boston62> If running a private server that is running Ubuntu 12.04, why would you need to install audio, video etc.? There not in use.
[21:58] <zrbecker> I have a radeon video card and I just install xubuntu. How can I check what driver it is using? It is my understanding there are 2 for radeon cards.
[21:59] <onicrom> does anyone know of a way to set crontab to use a different timezone (and yes ive googled none of the methods mentioned work) .  i used to use fcron but that is no longer part of ubuntu (im using 12.04)
[22:00] <ikonia> onicrom: it has to use the system time
[22:00] <NP-Completeass> anyone able to tell me what the size of their kernel is?
[22:00] <ikonia> NP-Completeass: why ?
[22:01] <NP-Completeass> ikonia: we were discussing kernel sizes in #gentoo, and I wanted a comparison with another distro
[22:01] <ikonia> NP-Completeass: it really doesn't matter, as it depends on the version, the modular kernels are not a good example
[22:02] <onicrom> ikonia: but i dont want it to use the system time, the system time is UTC and we need a particular job to run in a timezone with DST
[22:02] <ikonia> onicrom: that's not going to happen
[22:02] <onicrom> ikonia: i could make it happen with some hacks but im trying to avoid that
[22:02] <myersg> how do I uninstall a .deb from the terminal?
[22:02] <ikonia> onicrom: no, you can't,
[22:02] <NP-Completeass> ikonia: aww, you mean you won't just ls -l /boot for me? :)
[22:02] <Giora> dpkg -r
[22:02] <PatrickDickey> Danikar: you could type fglrxinfo into a terminal. It will give you detailed information about the card and driver.
[22:02] <myersg> danke
[22:03] <melkor> NP-Completeass: from 143M to 160M for 3.8.4
[22:03] <onicrom> ikonia: yes yes i can (shell variable plus that `at` command)
[22:03] <ikonia> melkor: still use apt-get
[22:03] <NP-Completeass> thank you melkor.
[22:03] <onicrom> ikonia: the other less hacky version is to just install fcron from source
[22:03] <ikonia> onicrom: cron doesn't run from a user shell
[22:03] <ikonia> onicrom: installing fcron from source won't change the fact that it uses the system clock
[22:03] <Danikar> PatrickDickey, command not found. is there a package i need to install first?
[22:04] <onicrom> ikonia: with fcron you can specify the timezone to execute the job and i used this successfully in ubuntu 10.04
[22:04] <melkor> NP-Completeass: that is the /lib/modules/linux-XX sizes.
[22:04] <ikonia> onicrom: sorry, I can't see how that can work
[22:04] <onicrom> ikonia: why not?
[22:04] <onicrom> i can
[22:04] <ikonia> fair enough
[22:05] <Cache_Money> Why didn't this cronjob run successfully?  http://pastie.org/7094228
[22:05] <ikonia> Cache_Money: python normally isn't in /usr/local/bin
[22:05] <PatrickDickey> Danikar: sudo lshw -C video it will tell you what driver is installed
[22:05] <ikonia> Cache_Money: you are also not using absoloute paths
[22:06] <onicrom> Cache_Money: is the test.py executable?
[22:06] <Cache_Money> ikonia: okay.  the command $ python test.py works
[22:06] <onicrom> chmod +x /home/ubuntu/cronjobs/test.py
[22:06] <ikonia> Cache_Money: yes, "python" does not mean /usr/local/bin/python
[22:06] <ikonia> Cache_Money: and your shell enviornment has a cwd - your cron enviornment doesn't
[22:06] <Giora> Hey is it possible to turn off scroll lock when changing language on ubuntu 12.10?
[22:07] <onicrom> try /usr/local/bin/python
[22:07] <onicrom> try /usr/local/bin/python /home/ubuntu/cronjobs/test.py
[22:07] <PatrickDickey> !ATI | Danikar This page will help you troubleshoot your graphics card.
[22:07] <onicrom> does that work?
[22:07] <Cache_Money> ikonia: so, what would the directory path be then?
[22:07] <Danikar> PatrickDickey, thanks
[22:07] <ikonia> Cache_Money: to where the file is
[22:08] <Cache_Money> ikonia: that's what I did: </home/ubuntu/cronjobs/test.py>
[22:08] <ikonia> 4cnot in the script you didn't
[22:08] <ikonia> Cache_Money: not in the script you didn't
[22:08] <ikonia> Cache_Money: again /usr/local/bin/python is not normal for python, and you didn't use absolute paths in the script
[22:08] <Cache_Money> ikonia: the Use Case section is in the cronjobs directory
[22:08] <ikonia> Cache_Money: ok - that has no relevence to what I just said,
[22:09] <onicrom> ikonia: thanks anyway
[22:09] <bobbyz> Cache_Money: He's telling you to update the shebang line (#!/usr/local/bin/python from your scripts)
[22:09] <onicrom> i shall hackaway
[22:09] <ikonia> Cache_Money: you just I just asked you about absoloute paths, and the wrong path for python and you responded with "my car is blue"
[22:09] <bobbyz> Cache_Money: change that first line of your script to either #!/usr/bin/python or #!/usr/bin/env python
[22:10] <Heavensrevenge> hello?
[22:10] <Soru> Hello
[22:11] <Cache_Money> ikonia: sorry, i misunderstood
[22:11] <Heavensrevenge> ah life
[22:12] <Heavensrevenge> ok, in ubunru, where does it keep the kdmrc file? as im using kdm as a login manager and its trying to autologin into the cinnimon desktop and failing since im using it in vmware and i imagine it fails without 3d acceleration
[22:12] <Heavensrevenge> i just have no idea where the configuration file of kdm is to prevent autologin into the desktop env
[22:12] <Giora> VMware has 3d support for linux
[22:13] <PatrickDickey> Heavensrevenge: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf maybe?
[22:13] <Heavensrevenge> well ive got the check box checked, regardless its trying to autologin into a DE i cant use, so i need to stop ot :P
[22:14] <Cache_Money> bobbyz: Changing the shebang from #!/usr/local/bin/python to #!/usr/bin/python didn't work.  Neither did #!/usr/bin/env python...
[22:14] <raven> how to configure a _transparent_ wlan gateway (machine should uplink traffic of local cable network via wlan)
[22:17] <PatrickDickey> Cache_Money: when you put the cronjob in, did you put it in as the ubuntu user or sudo?
[22:17] <Exilepilot> Guise, I need help :/
[22:17] <Exilepilot> I'm guessing this is the right place?
[22:17] <Cache_Money> PatrickDickey: as ubuntu.  I just added a tast as $ sudo crontab -e
[22:17] <Cache_Money> *task
[22:18] <bobbyz> Cache_Money: make sure the script is executable (chmod +x /your/script.py)
[22:18] <PatrickDickey> if you used sudo crontab -e, then you need to make sure that root has permissions to that file.
[22:19] <Cache_Money> bobbyz:  here is the result from $ ls -l   -rw-rw-r-- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 119 Mar 23 14:12 test.py
[22:19] <bobbyz> Cache_Money: that means it is not executable.  chmod +x test.py
[22:19] <raven> how to configure a _transparent_ wlan gateway (machine should uplink traffic of local cable network via wlan)
[22:19] <Cache_Money> bobbyz:  okay, thanks
[22:20] <bobbyz> Cache_Money: you're welcome.  What happens is that when the file is marked executable, then your shell will execute that first shebang line, feeding the file name as an argument
[22:21] <bobbyz> so #!/usr/bin/python becomes '/usr/bin/python test.py'
[22:21] <Cache_Money> gotcha
[22:21] <Apellizcos> hola a todos necesito ayuda
[22:21] <PatrickDickey> Exilepilot: feel free to ask your question. If somoene can help you, they will.
[22:21] <Exilepilot> Firstly, when I logged in I had an error "ICEAuthority"... something about updating, I then tried to log in using ALT + CTRL + F1 and check but I relized my home folder was encrypted but I have no idea what the passphrase is because I can't remember setting it up. Now I am in a mega head ache, I tried making another account and now when I login it logs me out automatically. FYI: Using IRC in guest account.
[22:22] <Exilepilot> Does that make any sense, if not I'll try explain a little clearer.
[22:23] <PatrickDickey> Exilepilot: when you tried logging in via CTRL+Alt+F1, did it prompt you for a password to access your home folder?
[22:23] <Apellizcos> algun español por aqui
[22:23] <Exilepilot> Nope
[22:24] <PatrickDickey> Apellizcos: puede ir a #ubuntu-es por ayudar. O si hablas ingles, entonces ayudamos aqui.
[22:25] <PatrickDickey> Exilepilot: were you able to get into your home directory? If you tried, I mean.
[22:25] <Jpmh> Exilepilot: your home folder is not writable, this is a permissions thing.  Just boot in recovery mode, then when on as the root change te permits of /home/yourUser to 700 amd re-boot
[22:26] <Exilepilot> Jpmh: Change the permits of /home/? (I am a noob) How
[22:27] <Jpmh> Exilepilot:  chmod 700 /home/WhatevereYourUserIs
[22:27] <uvala> hello, anyone can help me with a problem sending email (using claws-mail) ?
[22:28] <Cache_Money> bobbyz: I'm pretty sure I did everything correct  http://pastie.org/7094346  Still, I couldn't get the cronjob to run successfully
[22:28] <ejv> !anyone | uvala
[22:28] <Cache_Money> is the command in the cron table correct?
[22:28] <Exilepilot> Right, I'll try it
[22:29] <Exilepilot> What does it do exactly, if I may ask :)
[22:29]  * PatrickDickey is thinking that the passphrase was your login password.
[22:29] <uvala> sure :) this is the error I get while sending email: http://troll.ws/image/ef00301c
[22:29] <janisozaur_> how do i disable aptd starting on every boot?
[22:29] <ikonia> uvala: what is not clear about that ?
[22:30] <uvala> ikonia, I dont know why this appears. I use the same program with the same settings for months now, it happened only after recent reinstallation
[22:30] <ikonia> uvala: look at the error "cannot get recipents key...."
[22:31] <bobbyz> Cache_Money: It probably executed but wrote to your home directory now.  You have 'with open(<relativepath>)' which is going to open with the current working directory as /home/ubuntu when that script is run
[22:31] <uvala> yes, thing is, this appeared when I tested it between my own accounts, which were not encrypted
[22:31] <uvala> ikonia, yes, thing is, this appeared when I tested it between my own accounts, which were not encrypted
[22:31] <ikonia> uvala: it thinks they are, checking your settings
[22:32] <Cache_Money> bobbyz:  oh, you're right
[22:32] <uvala> ikonia, but nowhere in the settings, including the privacy section, is any encryption. it cant be, because the whole system has been newly installed
[22:32] <ikonia> uvala: it thinks it is
[22:33] <ikonia> uvala: also check the smtp server it's sending to - that may require encryption
[22:33] <bobbyz> Cache_Money: Also a couple more pointers.  First, you can 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and see when cron jobs are executing (marked CRON).  Second, if a job outputs anything to stdout or stderr (the latter being the case when something blows up), your user is mailed the output
[22:33] <YokoBR> guys, please.... I've installed 12.04, but says that xserver is 1.13... i need 1.12
[22:34] <ikonia> YokoBR: you can't have it
[22:34] <bobbyz> Cache_Money: You can use the 'mail' program to see the local mail that was delivered to you from the cronjob
[22:34] <uvala> ikonia, it is the same smtp server I've been using. besides, it worked between another pair of accounts of mine
[22:34] <YokoBR> ikonia, so i can't have my gpu running correctely
[22:34] <ikonia> uvala: ok, so the problem is your config for your accounts then, if it's working for others
[22:34] <PatrickDickey> YokoBR: Which grahpics card do you have?
[22:34] <Cache_Money> bobbyz:  would I add the tail command to the end of the command within the cron table?
[22:35] <bobbyz> Cache_Money: no, that's a command you would run from a new terminal.  It will just output the contents of the log file as they are udpated
[22:35] <Cache_Money> ok
[22:35] <YokoBR> PatrickDickey, Hybrid HD 4250 and HD 6310
[22:35] <uvala> ikonia, I changed nothing with my account settings, either
[22:35] <uvala> ikonia, I will check everything once again now
[22:36] <PatrickDickey> YokoBR: Have you looked at the information on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI by chance?
[22:37] <YokoBR> PatrickDickey, mine is muxless, so switcheroo won't work. Also, ati legacy driver needs xserver 1.12, and ubuntu's 1.13.
[22:38] <raven> how to configure a _transparent_ wlan gateway (machine should uplink traffic of local cable network via wlan)
[22:38] <ikonia> raven: sorry what ?
[22:38] <Exilepilot> Don't know what chmod 700 /home/myhomedir does.
[22:39] <Exilepilot> I did it though
[22:39] <ikonia> Exilepilot: changes the permissions
[22:39] <belidzs> ikonia it's called bridging
[22:39] <ikonia> belidzs: yes, I know what bridging is
[22:40] <belidzs> i wanted to address this to raven, sry :)
[22:40] <Exilepilot> Still can't login to my account, when I login it logs me out right after
[22:40] <PatrickDickey> YokoBR: while I'm not sure how "supported" this is, it is from the AskUbuntu site. And I've seen it here before. http://askubuntu.com/questions/223970/amd-legacy-driver-in-12-10
[22:41] <Exilepilot> exec -o whoami
[22:41] <Exilepilot> guest-cycfjR
[22:42] <YokoBR> PatrickDickey, That's what i'm doing right now, although i've already tryied on 12.10
[22:43] <PatrickDickey> Exilepilot: Are you on ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?
[22:43] <Jpmh> Exilepilot: chmod changes the permissions of the /home... to the value 700 - 700 can be thought of as 4+2+1 in the first digit and 0 in the next two.  4 is allow write, 2 allow read, 1 allow execure.  The first digot is for the owner, the second digit, which we left as 0 is for other members of the group and the third for all others
[22:44] <Exilepilot> 12.10
[22:46] <Exilepilot> :(
[22:46] <PatrickDickey> Exilepilot: from the terminal, type ls -l /home
[22:47] <PatrickDickey> What you're looking for is on your home directory, does it show your name or something else next to it? For example on mine it showsdrwxr-xr-x 88 patrickdickey patrickdickey 12288 Mar 23 00:09 patrickdickey
[22:51] <uvala> ikonia, it was indeed the config - thank you very much!
[22:53] <Exilepilot> PatrickDickey: Should I give you the output?
[22:53] <PatrickDickey> Exilepilot: just tell me if it's your username or not? It should be the same all the way across the line.
[22:54] <Exilepilot> The whole output is my username that I have problems with
[22:54] <Exilepilot> 'ricky'
[22:54] <Exilepilot> http://i.imgur.com/Zopt6C9.jpg
[22:56] <PatrickDickey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/197746/error-could-not-update-iceauthority-file-and-problem-in-configuration-se might be helpful then Exilepilot. It says make it chmod 755 instead of 700.
[22:58] <Exilepilot> Yes, but does when I login to the account it say's "Perhaps you should try 'ecryptfs-mount-private'", when I do this it asks me for a passphrase that I don't have? So, changing permissions will override this?
[22:59] <PatrickDickey> Exilepilot: That, I'm not sure about. I'll do a little more digging.
[23:03] <PatrickDickey> Exilepilot: did you change your password by chance, or install Gnome 3?
[23:05] <Exilepilot> PatrickDickey: I forgot to add a little more context, yes I did change my password this was because I couldn't login via ALT+CTRL+F1
[23:07] <Exilepilot> I changed this via root (recovery mode)
[23:09] <PatrickDickey> Exilepilot: then I think you need to do sudo chown -R ricky:ricky /home/ricky In the searching, I've seen it as sudo chown ricky:ricky /home/ricky also.
[23:09] <Exilepilot> PatrickDickey: As root?
[23:10] <PatrickDickey> Exilepilot: If you can do it as root, then don't put sudo before it. Otherwise no, you'll have to do it as an administrator though.
[23:10] <YokoBR> guys.... i'm almost installing 10.04
[23:10] <ikonia> you should not be root
[23:10] <ikonia> the root account is locked
[23:10] <YokoBR> i can't live with this anymore... i need my amd drivers
[23:11] <PatrickDickey> ikonia, he'd have to boot back into the Recovery Console to do it as root, correct?
[23:11] <YokoBR> and as it seems, 10.04 is my only option.
[23:11] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: I've not been following, I don't know what you are trying to do, I do know you should not be root though
[23:12] <PatrickDickey> ikonia: Exilepilot is logged in on the Guest Account. He's getting an ICEAuthority not updating error when he logs in under his account, and it logs him back out.
[23:12] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: so just delete the authority file
[23:12] <ikonia> it will re-create when he logs in
[23:12] <YokoBR> PatrickDickey, ikonia, do you guys think i should downgrade to 10.04?
[23:12] <PatrickDickey> ikonia: also, he changed the password for his account from a recovery console. And he has an encrypted home.
[23:12] <ikonia> YokoBR: what ?
[23:13] <YokoBR> ikonia, i need to install that ati drivers.. and i need xserver 1.12
[23:13] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: well that just sounds like a pointless mess, another example of using encyption when there is no real need and now having a problem
[23:13] <ikonia> YokoBR: so ?
[23:13] <YokoBR> ikonia, do you think i should install 10.04?
[23:13] <tarqua> can someone tell me how to get xorg to ignore EDID in ubuntu 12.10? every page i look at has a different answer
[23:13] <ikonia> YokoBR: you should use whatever meets your requirements
[23:13] <YokoBR> ikonia, thank you, sir
[23:14] <PatrickDickey> YokoBR: In the link that you were looking at (the one I gave you also), if you use their third party ppa (Yes, I know that's not supported here), it downgrades your X Server to 1.12.
[23:14] <ikonia> YokoBR: apply common sense, your card is in legacy support....it doesn't work in later versions either a.) update your card b.) use an older system c.) get a custom xorg build
[23:14] <YokoBR> patrickdickey, i've downgraded, but got a black screen.
[23:15] <YokoBR> ikonia, it's a laptop, i can't upgrade. The custom build crashes everything, leaving me a black screen.
[23:15] <PatrickDickey> YokoBR: Did you do a clean install of 12.04? I'm asking because originall you were on 12.10 right?
[23:15] <ikonia> YokoBR: ok, so that leaves "b"
[23:15] <YokoBR> PatrickDickey, clean install.
[23:15] <YokoBR> ikonia, sure
[23:15] <ikonia> YokoBR: problem solved,
[23:16] <YokoBR> damn you ati. :(
[23:16] <Exilepilot> PatrickDickey: I'm pretty sure there's a way I can decrypt my home folder from live CD, if so I can retrieve all the 'useful' data and do a clean install. Also learn from my mistakes 'encrying home folder'
[23:17] <Exilepilot> Brb
[23:17] <Exilepilot> lol
[23:18] <PatrickDickey> Exilepilot: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html might help then. Otherwise google mounting an encrypted home folder from live cd.
[23:26] <irc4> My wifi switch is clearly on and it's telling me I have wireless disabled by a hardware switch. I tried Windows and Backtrack as well (it's the same). Here is what ubuntu gives me in terms of logs: http://pastebin.com/iugKikyw
[23:28] <irc4> 0: ideapad_wlan: Wireless LANSoft blocked: noHard blocked: no1: phy0: Wireless LANSoft blocked: noHard blocked: yes
[23:28] <irc4> but the switch isnt on sigh
[23:29] <kostkon> irc4, tried:  rfkill unblock all  ?
[23:29] <kostkon> irc4, sorry i meant:  rflist unblock all
[23:29] <kostkon> no it's rfkill :/
[23:30] <kostkon> irc4, rfkill unblock all
[23:30] <irc4> Yes, under wireless networks it still says "wireless disabled by a hardware switch"
[23:30] <Jordan_U> irc4: Maybe the switch is simply broken. Is it still under warranty?
[23:30] <bobbyz> irc4: make sure it's not disabled in your BIOS too.  If it is still disabled even under Windows, I would check BIOS settings
[23:30] <irc4> I checked the bios too. Thanks.
[23:30] <bobbyz> k
[23:31] <irc4> Well I was using airodump-ng and closed the laptop... if that did anything lol
[23:31] <irc4> by mistake I did
[23:31] <irc4> then I rebooted from backtrack and wireless stopped working
[23:31] <sebastiansam55> anyone know of a way to export sounds from soundfont files?
[23:32] <irc4> Should I try updating the bios in hopes of magically turning it back on?
[23:32] <irc4> *flashing
[23:33] <irc4> "Solution: To solve the problem simply:Shutdown the computerTake out the battery and reinsert it"
[23:33] <irc4> I guess I'll try this =[
[23:33] <irc4> If this works please suggest it to others brb
[23:33] <irc4> will tell you what happened
[23:34] <nzhost> yo
[23:36] <sebastiansam55> anyone know where I should ask about something like that then?
[23:36] <WelshyRob> Hi guys, I'm desperately trying to install quake2 (for my coursework), on by ubuntu box I have looked at all the official docs, but haven't had any joy. Can anyone recommend what to do?
[23:41] <Espen___> Anyone have experience from sending emails to alsa-devel?
[23:41] <Espen___> mailing list?
[23:41] <Espen___> Im not sure if my email reached through, and how long i should expect before it appears?
[23:42] <k1l_> Espen___: that is not a real technical ubuntu support issue, right? better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:43] <Espen___> well, it can be. but i doubt anyone can help me
[23:43] <Espen___> i've tried asking here before
[23:44] <Espen___> anyway, for you feeling up for trying: all s/pdif out devices resets the volume to 100% after, a switch from analog to digital playback
[23:45] <Espen___> showcased here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7dBJkviD4Y&t=00m15s
[23:45] <NetworkNerd7> Hey there guys, I got a laptop that has confirmed bluetooth compatibility, and is detected in lspci. The problem is that it is not being found in hcitool dev. This is an inspiron e1505 laptop. The bluetooth has worked on windows before. I've tried almost everything on google.
[23:45] <NetworkNerd7> Any ideas?
[23:45] <NetworkNerd7> (ubuntu 12.10)
[23:46] <PatrickDickey> !Bluetooth | NetworkNerd7
[23:50] <NetworkNerd7> No luck with that utorial.
[23:50] <NetworkNerd7> tutorial*
[23:50] <NetworkNerd7> hcitool dev lists no devices
[23:50] <AphelionZ> hi, i have a laptop that has a 32GB SSD and a 500GB HDD. I mistakenly installed ubuntu on the HDD. Is there an easy way to more or less just copy my filesystem over to the SSD, boot from there, then deal with the HDD?
[23:50] <NetworkNerd7> Nor does lspci or lsusb list it. It is only showing on the dellWirelessCtl
[23:51] <NetworkNerd7> HOWEVER, it DOES say on dellWirelessCtl --bt 1, that bluetooth is not installed, but it is supported, and enabled at boot.
[23:56] <irc4> Hey again. So I re-flashed my bios and it solved the Hardware Switch issue with my wifi.
[23:56] <Soru_> Someone knows why If I execute dungeons defender it doesn't start?
[23:57] <irc4> For some odd reason, my computer went into hibernate when running airodump-ng... and the wifi hardware switch stayed off permanently
[23:57] <irc4> anyway thanks
[23:57] <linux389> anyone know how to fix the "sudo poweroff now" not turning off my desktop? I am on ubuntu 12.10 and the dual boot shuts down fine in windows xp.