[00:13] <onereadingman> Will someone give me a hint as to what man page will tell me how to set an init script to start at boot?
[00:14] <sw> !boot
[00:23] <onereadingman> Will someone give me a hint as to what man page will tell me how to set an init script to start at boot?
[00:25] <onereadingman> hey hey boo boo
[00:29] <sw> !boot
[00:29]  * sw pokes ubottu 
[00:30] <sw> onereadingman:
[00:30] <sw> 00:13 < onereadingman> Will someone give me a hint as to what man page will tell me how to set an init script to start at
[00:30] <sw>                        boot?
[00:30] <sw> 00:14 < sw> !boot
[00:30] <sw> 00:14 < ubottu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use
[00:30] <sw>                 the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and
[00:30] <sw>                 !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see
[00:30] <sw>                 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[00:41] <LargePrime> HEYO!
[00:41] <LargePrime> ok so my host says i can change kernals all i want!
[00:41] <LargePrime> so I has to do that.
[01:02] <LargePrime> roy
[01:02] <LargePrime> RoyK:
[01:27] <LargePrime> does anyone have any good thoughts on what kernel One should install?
[01:46] <remote> LargePrime: linux
[01:48] <LargePrime> remote:  Linux???  not a windows kernal on my ubuntu server?
[01:48] <LargePrime> are you sure?
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[01:48] <remote> how would you feel if I said "yes"?
[01:48] <LargePrime> relived
[01:51] <LargePrime> remote: have you looked at http://grsecurity.net
[01:55] <LargePrime> remote: also i see a linux-image-3.5.0-25-lowlatency kernel
[01:55] <LargePrime> and I not know if i want, o why?
[01:55] <LargePrime> and I not know if i want, or why?
[01:58] <patdk-lap> heh, you unlikely want lowlatency kernel
[01:58] <patdk-lap> it causes more kernel overhead processing
[01:59] <LargePrime> great
[01:59] <patdk-lap> it's kind of like disks, doing many small operations, are a few larger ones
[01:59] <patdk-lap> you can go one way or the other
[02:00] <LargePrime> so low latency i i want low latency and will pay with higher cpu load for net tasks
[02:00] <patdk-lap> for net tasks?
[02:00] <patdk-lap> for everything
[02:01] <LargePrime> oh
[02:01] <patdk-lap> all the programs will run slower, cause it's optimized to switch more often, and do things *quicker* instead of waiting
[02:01] <LargePrime> ok so DO NOT WANT!
[02:01] <patdk-lap> that means lots of context switching
[02:01] <patdk-lap> and context switching is a huge overhead
[02:02] <LargePrime> ok, so latest and greatest?  3.5.0-26?  or stick with an earlier?
[02:03] <LargePrime> who would use a low latency kernel?
[02:03] <LargePrime> patdk-lap:
[02:03] <patdk-lap> time sensitive stuff
[02:03] <patdk-lap> signal analysis, some audio people
[02:03] <patdk-lap> audio people are always alittle nuts
[02:03] <LargePrime> REAL time sensitive stuff?  This is just a minecraft server
[02:04] <LargePrime> lol
[02:05] <LargePrime> so any reason not to use .26? patdk-lap
[02:05] <LargePrime> and what about grsecurity kernels?
[02:08] <patdk-lap> it's some extra security package
[02:08] <patdk-lap> been years since I looked into it
[02:08] <patdk-lap> but opted not to use it, just too painful for the gain it would give me
[02:09] <patdk-lap> but you had ovh doing that, so would be nice to use, unless like you had, it gets in the way
[02:11] <LargePrime> patdk-lap:  , ima be back to ask you more questions
[05:50] <one> Id python required by nmap?
[05:50] <one> Is python required by nmap?
[05:52] <andol> one: Yes, and why so hung up on not installing Python? Setting up some embedded system?
[05:52] <one> andol: eventually but trying to get a clean build environment first
[05:53] <one> I need nmap to check the lines and get an idea of what im downloading
[05:54] <one> I guess I could try and rewrite nmap to use perl
[05:54] <one> What version of nmap doesnt require python?
[05:54] <one> Someone keeps changing my internet connection
[05:55] <one> So I need nmap to see whats going on
[06:00] <qman__> you're going to have a really hard time trying to build ubuntu without python
[06:00] <qman__> and why is perl somehow ok but python isn't?
[06:04] <one> I only see .cc and .h files in the nmap source
[06:04] <one> Where is the python?
[07:12] <Quebert> Question, when I first create the server and it asks for the hostname e.g. server.example.com can I use that name or should that only be used to name the server?
[08:44] <one> Is there a version of nmap without python?
[08:47] <one> If I download a package or a source is there a way to automatically download the deps of the package and source?
[08:48] <one> aldo talk to me
[08:51] <one> andol: are you there?
[08:52] <one> If I download a package or a source is there a way to automatically download the deps of the package and source?
[08:55] <histo> one: apt-get source packagename
[09:01] <one> histo: but that doesnt also get the dependencies of that package
[09:01] <histo> one: you want source for nmap and source for all the dependancies
[09:02] <histo> one: Are you sure python isn't jsut a recomended package?
[09:02] <one> histo: let me check again
[09:03] <one> histo: First please help me with this I want to download the packages for build-essential so after I get the sources I can build them.
[09:03] <one> so I try apt-get download build-essential and it only downloads the metapackage
[09:03] <histo> one: Is there a reason you want to build all of this from source?
[09:03] <one> of course
[09:03] <histo> And that is?
[09:04] <one> I am going to make changes for one and that is sufficient reason.
[09:04] <one> Reasons matter not anyway.
[09:04] <one> It is the causes that matter. And the effects.
[09:04] <histo> Okay but yet you don't understand how to install packages or download their source code?
[09:05] <histo> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:05] <histo> apt-get source nmap
[09:05] <one> histo: yes it resolves dependencies automatically when installing
[09:05] <one> I want to download only
[09:05] <histo> Download only what?
[09:05] <one> the packages needed to build the sources I will download
[09:06] <one> so either or apt-get download and apt-get source I want to also get the dependencies
[09:07] <histo> one: apt-get buil-dep packagename
[09:07]  * histo has a feeling this is going to end badly
[09:10] <one> histo: I dont want to build them at the moment I want to download them
[09:10] <one> whats the point of building them if there are no changes made?
[09:10] <histo> one: that will download the dependancies to build "them"
[09:11] <one> the sources?
[09:11] <histo> one: You are really confusing.  Perhaps you can try again and state what you want to do concisely in one line.
[09:11] <one> ok
[09:11] <histo> one: again sources for what?
[09:12] <one> I want to download ONLY the packages for build-essential (so I can build the latter) and I also want to download a source pagage INCLUDING sources for dependencies.
[09:13] <histo> one: build-essential is a meta package you realize that right?
[09:14] <one> Right so how do i tell both commands to alse get DEPENDENCIES
[09:15] <histo> one: So you want source code for all the packages in build-essentail??? or do you just want to download the packages only and not install them?
[09:16] <one> Both.
[09:17] <histo> one: what are you going to recompile gcc with btw?
[09:18] <one> Thats not what I am going to do at the moment.
[09:18] <histo> Then what do you need the source for it for?
[09:18] <histo> You have an XY problem
[09:18] <one> But if you would answer the question I can get sources for other packages the answe ris the same either way.
[09:19] <histo> one: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=542341
[09:19] <one> The question is how do I get apt-get source and apt-get download to also get dependencies.
[09:19] <one> SIMPEL
[09:19] <one> Dont worry about why
[09:19] <one> Let me do the thinking here.
[09:20] <one> You just help me issue the commands.
[09:20] <one> OK
[09:21] <histo> The only way I can think of doing the insane thing you want to do is to install the package an get the debs from the /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:21] <histo> then you could apt-get source packagename and get all the source also
[09:22] <histo> Since you don't want to apt-get build-dep packagename
[09:22] <one> So I have to remake a list for apt-get source?
[09:22] <one> let me try build dep
[09:22] <histo> one: I guess but again sounds like an XY problem to me
[09:23] <one> What do you mean XY problem I am sick of flawed logic being thrown at me as some sort of rules to ask questions by.
[09:23] <jpds> one: apt-get build-deps <package>
[09:23] <jpds> build-dep, that is.
[09:23] <jpds> ...will download the build dependencies of a package.
[09:24] <histo> one: You want to do X, and you think Y is the best way of doing so. Instead of asking about X, you ask about Y.
[09:24] <histo> one: or...  You're trying to do X, and you thought of solution Y. So you're asking about solution Y, without even mentioning X. The problem is, there might be a better solution, but we can't know that unless you describe what X is.
[09:25] <one> I don't think like most people.
[09:25] <one> Ok I dont think linear.
[09:25] <histo> one: And that's the problem
[09:25] <one> Why does everything I ask turn into a logic argument.\
[09:26] <one> histo: it is not a problem the problem is that folks dont want to help unless they think they can approve of an outcome that they are unable to see
[09:26] <histo> one: I'm not arguing only trying to help. I've explained numerous ways to do what you want although I don't agree with it and don't believe you understand.
[09:26] <one> hold on let me look at build dep
[09:26] <one> its trying to install packages i dont want them installed i just want to download binaries and source
[09:28] <histo> one: then you would apt-get download packagename   To download the binary and apt-get source packagename to download the soruce
[09:29] <histo> one: build-dep satisfies the build dependancies for a particular package
[09:30] <histo> !source | one
[09:31] <histo> !build | one
[09:31] <one> histo: ok I see but in binary form
[09:31] <histo> one: you would have to extract it from the debs
[09:31] <one> I want the deps in source form
[09:32] <histo> one: then apt-get source packagename  for them
[09:32] <one> ok so I have to make my own list theres no way to have the command resolve the dependencies
[09:32] <one> right, that is the answer to my question
[09:34] <histo> There is no way to do what you want witht he apt-get source command it's not used that way
[09:35] <one> oh thanks for finally answering
[09:36] <one> appreciate the help histo if I may give some feedback next time just try to answer the questions asked
[09:36] <histo> one: I did
[09:38] <one> histo: yeah 42 minutes later
[09:39] <ikonia> one: drop the attitude, you're banned from #ubuntu for this attitude - be nice here
[09:40] <one> im just giing feedback
[09:40] <ikonia> one: yeah, so stop he's trying to help you
[09:40] <one> i dont buy that
[09:41] <one> i think its trolling
[09:41] <one> i think he is smarter than that
[09:41] <one> and i also think he knows i am smarter than that
[11:17] <Hasoth> hello, how much space will take to install ubuntu server with php and mysql server?
[11:17] <Hasoth> I have old comp with 40 GB disc and I don't know how much will be to use after instalation
[11:20] <ikonia> Hasoth: couple of gig
[11:20] <ikonia> can probably get it down to around 800mb
[11:22] <Hasoth> ikonia: thanks
[11:23] <Hasoth> will that Ubuntu Server 12.04.2 LTS work on old machine ?
[11:25] <ikonia> Hasoth: read the minimum spec and see if your hardware meets it
[11:39] <Hasoth> is that very difficult to install php and mysql server on ubuntu server?
[11:40] <ikonia> have you considered reading any of the documentation ?
[11:40] <ikonia> Hasoth: but in short, "no"
[11:40] <Hasoth> ok, just in short, I will read everything today later ;)
[11:40] <Hasoth> I just use sometimes ubuntu - normal not server
[11:40] <Hasoth> and it's very easy to do anything there
[11:40] <ikonia> the desktop is the same as the server
[11:41] <Hasoth> ahh, I thought I will need to do anything with command lines
[11:41] <Hasoth> everything not anything ;)
[11:41] <ikonia> Hasoth: well that is the default setup,
[11:41] <ikonia> but the command line is the same as the ubuntu desktop command line
[11:46] <Hasoth> I bet there's a lot of tutorials for ubuntu server
[11:46] <Hasoth> I just hope I won't get any anusual problem ;)
[11:47] <Hasoth> in other case I will come here and ask specific question
[11:47] <Hasoth> thanks for help ;)
[11:52] <ikonia> Hasoth: https://help.ubuntu.com - there is an excellent server section
[11:52] <ikonia> Hasoth: please be aware you can also use a desktop install as an excellent server
[12:13] <Hasoth> ikonia: I thought server version is like light version of system, without not needed things + with installed some stuff for server
[12:14] <ikonia> Hasoth: it's not got things like a desktop installed by default
[12:14] <Hasoth> and I will use that server just for showing sites for clients
[12:15] <Hasoth> good, that would be waste of space
[12:16] <Hasoth> is that possible to use free domain on my own server?
[12:19] <Hasoth> or rather, is that anything like free domain without server that gives free domain?
[12:20] <Hasoth> because they mostly want track-back link or something
[12:26] <Hasoth> I probably need to make domain controller or server
[12:26] <Trudko_> guys I got newly installed ubuntu server on virtual machine where i deployed apache and my application. I am not familiar with ubuntu server at all , is there something which I should do in order to procted it or something?
[12:44] <Trudko_> I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/151440/important-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-server
[15:21] <Extreme> !apache
[16:01] <luminous> hi! I'm trying to install a package but another package is erroring out in it's --configure.. there should be no dependency between the two, so I don't know why this would happen. any insights into how I can just install salt-minion and work around puppet sucking? http://dpaste.de/xOZy7/
[16:02] <qman__> dpkg won't work until errors are resolved
[16:02] <qman__> so you can't install any packages until that's fixed
[16:02] <luminous> what part of dpkg is broken?
[16:02] <qman__> not dpkg, the package that's generating the errors
[16:03] <luminous> how should I find out more information so I can fix the problem with puppet?
[16:03] <qman__> well, it looks like it won't start
[16:04] <qman__> so check syslog or messages to see why
[16:04] <qman__> if you don't care about puppet and just want to remove/manually fix later, you can manually set it to installed
[16:04] <luminous> I like that last option as a fallback
[16:05] <luminous> how would I tell dpkg that?
[16:05] <qman__> Edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and search for “Package: puppetmaster″
[16:05] <qman__> Replace “half-configured” with “installed”
[16:05] <maxb> ugh
[16:05] <luminous> another thing is I could drop the version back to known working and lock it somehow?
[16:05] <qman__> be careful because trashing this file will break everything
[16:05] <maxb> Editing the dpkg status file manually is REALLY dubious
[16:06] <maxb> Why can't you just remove the problem package instead?
[16:06] <luminous> maxb: touching apt in anyway is often dubios
[16:06] <luminous> maxb: I would prefer to drop back a versoin at this point
[16:06] <maxb> Hardly
[16:06] <qman__> you can pin/hold a package
[16:06] <luminous> I'm just speaking from my experience, not trying to argue reality for others
[16:06] <qman__> did it break after an upgrade?
[16:07] <maxb> Theres a vast difference between using the package manager's published interfaces and fiddling with its internal database manually
[16:07] <luminous> qman__: likely, I did not do an upgrade, but I think another admin did, and was not looking at puppet working
[16:07] <maxb> Do you actually want a running puppetmaster on this system?
[16:07] <luminous> maxb: agreed
[16:07] <luminous> maxb: yes, I do want puppet running
[16:08] <luminous> as I said, I would prefer to drop back to 3.0, which was known working for my setup
[16:08] <luminous> and i can then debug what is breaking elsewhere
[16:08] <luminous> but I need salt on there regardless.. so I'm mostly just trying to get puppet out of my way
[16:08] <maxb> Do you run the built in ruby server version of the puppetmaster or do you use passenger/apache?
[16:09] <maxb> Because, somewhat counterintuitively, if you use the passenger/apache form, you *don't* want the puppetmaster package installed
[16:09] <luminous> builtin, I'm hardly using puppet anymore, I'm in the process of converting the last vestigages >>> salt stack, and I have never been happier :)
[16:10] <luminous> i need to have puppet running to ensure I'm covered if any of the last few bits break while I have not got them converted to salt
[16:11] <maxb> I'm not 100% sure that this will work, but the simplest option might be to disable the puppetmaster init script by chmod -x
[16:11] <maxb> I *think* that will allow the package configuration to complete
[16:11] <maxb> So, can you try 'chmod -x /etc/init.d/puppetmaster; dpkg --configure -a'
[16:12] <luminous> ok, that would get me through a bit. how would I ask apt to drop puppet back a version?
[16:12] <maxb> Of course, if it's important to you that the puppetmaster run, you should probably work out why it is failing to start
[16:13] <luminous> that's the third step
[16:13] <maxb> Dropping back a version largelly depends on whether the puppetlabs repositories still publish the old version, or if you're going to have to locate the packages manually
[16:13] <luminous> hrm, ok
[16:13] <maxb> You could try 'apt-cache policy puppet' to see a list of versions that apt knows about
[16:13] <luminous> if you are not using salt stack, I _highly_ recommend checking it out
[16:13] <maxb> If the one you want isn't in the apt indexes any more
[16:14] <luminous> yea, I might just need to fix the broken puppet definition :)
[16:14] <maxb> * If the one you want isn't in the apt indexes any more, then you will need to find the .deb files manually
[16:14] <maxb> I will have a look at salt. I currently use puppet, but I'm not all that fond of it
[16:15] <luminous> working with salt breathes some life into sys admin again
[16:15] <maxb> Ooh, salt is Python?
[16:15]  * maxb would rather like an escape hatch from RUby
[16:15] <luminous> it's easy to work with, super fast, built on zmq, and _just friggin works_
[16:16] <luminous> yea, there's ancel too, also in python
[16:16] <luminous> it's really easy to learn
[16:17] <luminous> much simpler/shorter learning curve than puppet
[16:17] <luminous> and in the end, you get a clean description of what your infrastructure looks like, way more so than I could in 2 years with puppet
[16:18] <luminous> apt tells me there is a 3.0.2-1puppetlabs1 package? but how do you reference this correctly with apt? tr
[16:19] <luminous> maxb: checkout libvirt integration here: http://docs.saltstack.com/topics/releases/0.14.0.html :D
[16:21] <maxb> luminous: Do a dpkg -l '*puppet*' and figure out all of the puppet related package names ( e.g. puppet, puppetmaster, maybe a puppet-common IIRC? )
[16:21] <maxb> Then apt-get install {puppet,puppetmaster,puppet-common}=3.0.2-1puppetlabs1
[16:21] <maxb> Where the {} is bash syntax
[16:22] <luminous> I see the name=version in doc
[16:22] <luminous> oh yea, I did not think of the other pkg
[16:23] <luminous> thanks so much maxb :)
[16:23] <luminous> you have made my working with ubuntu a wee bit less painful :)
[16:23] <maxb> The packages are likely to become unhappy if you mix versions :-)
[16:23] <luminous> yea, totally understandable!
[16:24] <maxb> And thank you, it's promising to have an alternative to Puppet to look into next time I end up in a configuration management argument at work
[16:25] <luminous> :)
[16:25] <luminous> you may want to put it on a vbox image just to fiddle with a little.. you may find yourself using it right away :P
[16:26] <luminous> want to find that file you can't remember which server it is on? salt '*' cmd.run 'find / -type f -name "*that_file*"'
[16:27] <maxb> My instinct would be to just use pssh for that
[16:28] <luminous> sure, except that pssh isn't really the same framework that salt provides.. so you use one integrated tool to do a whole lot
[16:30] <luminous> I have networks defined as maps of vms with specific profiles, and then states to control evyerthing from services to users and the specifics of files.. and can then use salt-cloud to wave a wand and have an instance of that network created in the cloud for me, all according to spec..
[16:30] <luminous> but yea, I know.. it's just something you experience as your life gets easier with salt, and then you don't want to use anything else. you even start to solve your admin problems differently
[16:30] <qman__> how do the systems connect?
[16:31] <qman__> is it possible to do this over the internet or no?
[16:32] <qman__> at my job we have a bunch of NASes that need to be more or less identically configured, and right now I have them wget a tar.gz to update a set of scripts
[16:32] <maxb> I suspect it might be a bit of a hard sell to move off Puppet at my place, unfortunately.  We're still splitbrained between Debian and CentOS after a merger of two companies
[17:09] <Trudko_> guys I got newly installed ubuntu server on virtual machine where i deployed apache and my application. I am not familiar with ubuntu server at all , is there something which I should do in order to procted it or something?
[17:09] <Trudko_> I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/151440/important-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-server
[17:17] <ikonia> Trudko_: just apply common sense and lock it down without locking your application
[17:21] <Trudko_> ikonia: I dont have enough experience with setting ubuntu server to have common sense about this
[17:22] <ikonia> basically sort your file permissions out
[17:36] <qman__> Trudko_, ubuntu, like most linux distributions, is secure by default
[17:36] <qman__> if there are any gaping holes, it would be something you have done
[17:36] <Trudko_> what about the  link i sent ? there are bunch of things which people set...
[17:36] <qman__> make sure you use good passwords, don't install more than you need, etc
[17:37] <qman__> those are all a matter of preference and are application-specific
[17:37] <qman__> for example, shared memory is only an issue if you allow users to execute arbitrary code on your server, i.e. user shell accounts
[17:39] <qman__> spoofing is only an issue if your system is directly connected to an untrusted network, and even then is not typically a huge issue, and hardening PHP reduces some application functionality
[17:40] <qman__> of course hardening PHP is kind of a misnomer, when you use PHP you accept the risk that PHP is generally troublesome in regard to security, and you have to make sure your application has good code
[17:43] <patdk-lap> man, that harden php thing is so much less secure than the default
[17:45] <qman__> oh?
[17:46] <patdk-lap> I will say, the disable_functions is nice, but with exec disabled, you won't be able to use wordpress/jombla/....
[17:47] <patdk-lap> register_globals=off has been default since 5.2? or was it 5.1
[17:47] <patdk-lap> expose_php, ok, doesn't matter
[17:47] <qman__> just googled the magic quotes
[17:47] <patdk-lap> magic_quotes_gpc, this is just evil, I would never use it, it causes all kinds of \'s all over your stuff and sql columns
[17:48] <patdk-lap> if your program is made for php 3.x, sure use it
[17:48] <patdk-lap> but seriously
[17:48] <patdk-lap> it's an attempt at, we know php programmers won't validate user input, so this could help
[17:49] <qman__> yeah
[17:49] <patdk-lap> but now you don't know what the real user input was, was that \ them, or php
[17:49] <patdk-lap> had a database with that all over it :)
[17:49] <patdk-lap> between that, and magic_sql_quots, and stuff
[17:49] <patdk-lap> and years of server upgrades and changes
[17:49] <patdk-lap> there are upto 8 \'s in sql
[17:50] <patdk-lap> had to scrub the database
[17:51] <patdk-lap> as far as, disable_functions, the php.ini I installed like 2 weeks ago, had like 20+ things listed on it
[17:51] <Trudko_> qman__: well I deployed simple ruby on rails application where people just add some data - sport data is for sport league so it should be safe. Passwords are good(randomly generated)
[17:55] <qman__> Trudko_, with the exception of the php magic quotes of course, it's not to say that doing those things is a bad idea, but that you have to weigh whether it will be beneficial to you in your application
[17:55] <qman__> it will break some applications
[17:56] <qman__> fail2ban is generally a good idea but if you make a lot of SSH connections you need to tone it down or you'll have problems
[17:56] <Trudko_> qman__: well personally i happy that application is working
[17:56] <Trudko_> i just want to make sure that client wont call that something f*ked up with server it self
[17:58] <qman__> Trudko_, if this is going to be a set and forget server, I recommend using fail2ban
[17:58] <qman__> the other stuff is really not necessary
[21:45] <useless-eater> can anyone point me to a netinstall.img that I can dd to a usb stick for installing ubuntu-server? cannot find it on webpage
[21:54] <RoyK> useless-eater: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:59] <useless-eater> RoyK: thanks
[22:03] <ruben231> hi guys any application that will email for any downtime for server..? when the serer is unreachable
[22:03] <RoyK> !icinga
[22:04] <ruben231>  RoyK: whats that..?
[22:05] <RoyK> it's a nagios fork
[22:05] <RoyK> works well
[22:05] <RoyK> !nagios
[22:10] <ruben231> RoyK: how install it should it be on the same server or different
[22:10] <RoyK> the server can't know if it's dead
[22:11] <ruben231> RoyK: so it should be on seaparate
[22:11] <RoyK> must be
[22:12] <RoyK> if you have an alarm set to alert you if you're dead, how can you press the alarm button?
[22:21] <aandy> hey, sorry if this is off topic, i couldn't find a better place to ask about dnsmasq :) anyone have experience using ptr-records in dnsmasq? specific names works, but i'm looking for a "wildcard" solution, is it impossible in dnsmasq?
[22:24] <RoyK> not sure about dnsmasq - should work with bind
[22:26] <aandy> RoyK: ok, that's fine, i can use bind. something like 1 IN PTR one.example.com => *.*.*.1 -> one.example.com?
[22:28] <RoyK> aandy: that'll be spoofing a bit too much
[22:31] <aandy> that was just an example. what i'm looking for is only LAN addresses - 192.168.0.1/24 for instance
[22:32] <RoyK> just register those rfc1918 addresses
[22:33] <aandy> right, sorry i wasn't clear. i meant if the syntax was right ;) as in, i specify the surfix, so 0.168.192.in-addr.arp. IN PTR lan.company. would match 192.168.0.1-192.168.0.255
[22:34] <RoyK> try #bind
[22:34] <RoyK> I don't now
[22:34] <RoyK> know
[22:34] <aandy> ah, thanks
[23:26] <cronus> hello everyone. does anyone know how to start upstart session jobs without login. the documentation says to run init --user, but from where and how? thanks
[23:47] <codepython777> for a given process id, how do i find its memory/cpu consumption (for it and its child processes)?
[23:47] <codepython777> I'd prefer to keep an eye on its network usage as well
[23:52] <Nicolas_Leonidas> hi
[23:52] <Nicolas_Leonidas> how do I stop this Enter passphrase for key '/home/foo/id_rsa' from showing up when I try to ssh?