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DanEngholmStarting today, synaptic, Ubuntu Software Center, Software Up To Date and apt-get all crash.  When I try to send a problem report, that crashes, too.  Any ideas?  This is on Precise running on an AMD 64 which was up to date as of earlier this week.00:00
linux389DanEngholm: have you tried sudo aptitude install -f in terminal?00:01
DanEngholmI didn't know about that.  Will try now.00:01
k1l_DanEngholm: make a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal and show that in a pastebin please00:02
DanEngholmaptitude is not installed and trying to apt-get install it leads to the expected core dump.00:02
linux389k1l_: the && doesn't work in the newer versions of ubuntu anymore00:02
k1l_linux389: that is not true00:02
linux389k1l_: well, when i try that on ubuntu 12.10 it stops after update00:03
DanEngholmThe apt-get update seems to have fixed the problem.00:03
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k1l_linux389: it still works. then there is some issue with your system00:03
DanEngholmThat was easy.  Thanks!00:04
linux389k1l_: its been bugging me, can you help me fix it?00:04
threex5Hi, I could really use some help getting ubuntu to talk to my android phone.00:05
threex5I'm finding basic stuff like file transfer pretty hard to figure out00:05
DanEngholmk1l_: Thank you for your help.00:06
linux389anyone know how to fix the "sudo poweroff now" not turning off my desktop? I am on ubuntu 12.10 and the dual boot shuts down fine in windows xp.00:06
giovanaoi maria joaquina00:07
Snowiemorning all. I am installing True Combat Elite, which requires libstdc++5. The thread recommends installing it from ubuntu packages as it isnt in the repos. I have never done this before. Any advice or common mess ups i need to be aware of before i do this?00:08
Soru_Someone knows why If I execute dungeons defender it doesn't start?00:08
Snowieand is this the correct version for 12.04 http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/libstdc++500:08
Snowiehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86408500:09
linux389Snowie: maybe "find /usr -name libstdc++" then symbolic link to libstdc++5; that is done with "sudo ln -s <input> <output>"00:09
PatrickDickeySnowie, the correct version for 12.04 would be http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libstdc++500:10
Snowielinux389: ok, will try.00:10
SnowiePatrickDickey: ahh, yes, pangolin not ocelot. duh00:10
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PatrickDickeySoru, without any error messages, I don't think anyone could be positive.00:12
Snowielinux389: nothing found. i dont think they use this same library anymore, or is there another package i might be missing that includes this. apt-get install libstd++ just returns info on broken packages00:13
Soru_PatrickDickey: This is why I don't know what to search on the internet for help... And there is zero support from the humble bundle..00:13
linux389Snowie: you could try "apt-cache search libstdc++" or without the ++00:13
chrowhen I use 2 screens, the first screen is always blinking from time to time...00:13
PatrickDickeySoru_: when you try starting it, what happens exactly?00:14
Snowielinux389: looks like version 6 is current.00:15
linux389Snowie: you could symbolic link to your libstdc++.so.6 to libstdc++.so.5 in the same directory as the libstdc++.so.6; that is with the "sudo ln -s <input.6> <output.5>"00:15
Snowielinux389: doh. yeah, it's allready there. the other recommendation was to create a symlink. im sure i searched for it.00:15
Snowielinux389: yeah, cheers00:16
linux389anyone know how to fix the "sudo poweroff now" not turning off my desktop? I am on ubuntu 12.10 and the dual boot shuts down fine in windows xp. also the double ampersand is not working to join commands in terminal, any help on that is appreciated00:16
Soru_PatrickDickey: Well, first of all, sorry I'm on Kubuntu (trying and so) but I'm here because there is more activity here. When I click to the icon, it seems like it's starting to execute the game, but I switch to the process monitor, It does not shows nothing with the name "dungeons defenders" and nothing happens after. I don't know if my english is good, sorry.00:17
Snowiethanks guys00:17
dakotawulfyhi00:21
PatrickDickeySoru_: It doesn't appear to be compatible for LInux yet. I'm going on the assumption that you're playing the Steam version, right?00:22
Snowieln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 ?? are these the correcl locations. when i look in usr/lib, there is no such file/folder.00:22
maestrojedif you use xbmcbuntu, can you exit to just ubuntu (no xvmc)?00:23
mephisto_hi!00:23
dakotawulfywhen lm-sensor installed and u do sensors  the temp1  temp2 and temp3  will those be the same on all computers ?00:23
Soru_PatrickDickey: No, I've downloaded it from the humble bundle website. The installer is a mojo.run file00:23
mephisto_ I keep getting this whenever I try to connect through modem manager "System policy prevents unlocking or controlling the mobile broadband device"00:26
mephisto_do you guys know how to solve this?00:26
moesI did an update from update manager to linux-generic-2.6.32.46.53 upon restart I am at a login prompt and cannot login I have to use old kernel to boot..any known problem or fix00:27
escott_Snowie, there is usually a reason for the different numbers at the end. programs may not work correctly if you do that00:28
PatrickDickeySoru_: I'm not able to find anything. I'm sorry. Hopefully someone else can help you out.00:30
Soru_PatrickDickey: No problem, thanks for trying, I appreciate it very much!00:31
PatrickDickeymephisto_: One suggestion that I could make is to check your privleges in Users and Groups. You might need to have Use Modems checked, or Connect through modems.00:33
mephisto_PatrickDickey, thanks a lot buddy :)00:34
PatrickDickeyNot a problem. Hope it helps.00:35
Snowieexit00:38
moes I did an update from update manager to linux-generic-2.6.32.46.53 upon restart I am at a login prompt and cannot login I have to use old kernel to boot..any known problem or fix00:41
carpcowi need help with ubuntu00:43
carpcowwhen i try to install it the installer crashes00:44
carpcowanyone here?00:45
melleryhi, I need some help fixing my ati drivers.  I've just got a black screen with a terminal in the top corner.  I've tried purging the fglrx* packages and reinstalling, but when I run amdconfig --initial, i get a command not found.  trying to use failsafex in recovery mode doesn't work either00:46
peterrooneyI wonder what IRC client doesn't show a room count.00:47
PatrickDickeycarpcow does the installer give you an error when it crashes?00:50
cyrano_I'm attempting a triple monitor setup with my system. I currently have a nVidia 9800 GTX+ and an onboard Intel GMA 3100. I would like to have all three screens active with either a combination of twinview and xinerama or just xinerama across all three screens. The problem is when I enable this X constatly crashes and restarts. any ideas or thoughts on where I should look/start?00:50
carpcowit says i/o error00:50
PatrickDickeycarpcow, no guarantees but I had that with a hard drive that was in the process of dying. Are you on a LiveCD right now?00:51
carpcowno00:51
carpcowi was trying to install ubuntu on microsoft hyper-v00:52
carpcowwhich is a virtual machine thing00:52
PatrickDickeyAre you on the computer right now though? And if so, what operating system are you on?00:52
carpcowwindows but ubuntu is on the vm'00:52
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PatrickDickeyWhich version of Windows? I ask that, because I'm googling this, and see entries for Windows 8 and Windows Server 2008 R2.00:54
carpcowserver 201200:54
carpcowim thinking maybe the iso didn't download correctly?00:54
carpcowi have a bad connection00:55
nopoliticacarpcow: crc, md5?00:55
PatrickDickeycarpcow that could be. I don't remember off-hand how to check the md5sum of the iso on Windows, but you might want to do that.00:55
carpcowdunno how to check the md5 sum on windows00:55
carpcowok well thanks for the help00:56
nopoliticacarpcow: cygwin + md5 installed :)00:56
PatrickDickeycarpcow: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows how to check md5sum in Windows.00:57
PatrickDickeyIt's an older posting, but should still work. If not Google is your friend. ;-)00:57
carpcowi use startpage though but yes00:58
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xcvt01_can i run hurd in ubuntu00:58
xcvt01_?00:58
PatrickDickeyxcvt01_: The short answer is "no". The longer answer is you can run it as a virtual machine maybe through QEMU. http://askubuntu.com/questions/37945/can-i-install-gnu-hurd-in-ubuntu01:02
tkempHello, I have an asus eeepc 900 and I am trying to control the fans ... the unit seems very hot and doesn't seem to be turning them on. I have looked around the forums but I cant seem to find anything that helps. Thanks in advance.01:02
xcvt01_<patrickdickey>  tnx01:03
PatrickDickeyxcvt01_: No problem. Sorry.01:03
xcvt01_<patrickdickey>  i know that i should run it under vm01:03
fluo123anyone with a lenovo g580?01:03
xcvt01_<patrickdickey>  i have try a debian version but no graphical  interface01:03
PatrickDickey!eeepc | tkemp this might get you going.01:04
ubottutkemp this might get you going.: Information about installing Ubuntu on an Asus EeePC can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC . The Ubuntu EeePC Channel is #ubuntu-eeepc , main EeePC discussion in #eeepc01:04
fluo123anyone with a lenovo g580?01:04
PatrickDickeyxcvt01_: I'm not familiar enough with the hurd project to give you a solid answer. But, I'd assume that if Gnome or one of the other Desktop environments was available, you'd be able to install them.01:05
PatrickDickeyfluo123: Not here, but what's the issue that you're having? We may be able to help anyhow.01:05
tkempThanks PatrickDickey01:05
PatrickDickeytkemp: no problem. I hope you're able to get the fans running.01:05
fluo123just to see if its a good pc for ubuntu01:05
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fluo123indecise between it and mint01:06
xcvt01_<patrickDickey> yeah tnx i will search for this may be i'll help some one in the future tnx for ur help01:06
fluo123do you think ubuntu is secure out of the box? like for safe browsing?01:07
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Myersg2When I do sudo apt-get update I get errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5641925/01:08
fluo123how can one be sure he is not under attack/ not intercepted01:08
briamanI've just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 and I really wish I hadn't.  I've unloaded most of the shopping channel but can't get rid of the price tag on suggested apps.  What do I need to uninstall to get rid of this?01:08
Myersg2how would I restore my repositories to default? or is there another way to fix it?01:10
Myersg2any help?01:11
benzrfhey, is there a way to get actual mac-style alt-tab/alt-` instead of an unholy hybrid of mac and windows?01:11
mJaykbezrf: buy a mac01:12
mJaykbenzrf: teach me not to tab - buy a mac :)01:12
benzrfokay, then can I get genuine windows-style alt-tab?01:13
benzrfI just dislike the hybrid01:13
PatrickDickeyInstall XP?01:13
* benzrf sighs01:13
mJaykbenzrf: first what desktop are you using01:13
mJaykbenzrf: they all have different methods of configuring and different styles of "alt tab"01:13
PatrickDickeyfluo123: Yes I do. (Ubuntu secure). I think it's only as secure as you make it. If you really want secure, either don't go online, or use a Live CD to browse.01:14
fluo123PatrickDickey: but liveCDs are not up to date.01:15
mJaykPatrickDickey: I cant see how live cd's are more secure, if anything they are less secure.  Although they do give you more privacy maybe01:15
briamanSorry benzrf.  I'd help if I could.  I came here for help too.  It's been a long time since I bothered with irc.  Now I remember why.  Most of the users are dicks01:15
bobbyzfluo123: If you don't mind the extra click here and there, setting your browser plugins to click-to-play by default is always a good idea as well01:15
mJaykbriaman: useful input there ive allready asked waht desktop hes on still waiting for response01:15
bobbyzfluo123: then you can worry a lot less about the most recent flash/java/whatever vulnerability01:16
PatrickDickeymJayk: and fluo123 I mentioned Live CD's because once you reboot anything that you viewed, passwords that you used, or any viruses that may have infected the environment are gone. Like I said, to be truly secure, you'd have to stay offline.01:16
fluo123bobbyz:are you talking about no-Ads, noscript, etc...? bleach bit isnt enough if you browse a secure (https) site?01:17
mJaykPatrickDickey: that depends how you set it up, but I've always thought Live CD's being more secure was a myth becaues they are older and have older "holes" ?01:17
bobbyzfluo123: I mean both chrome/chromium and firefox support an option to display plugin divs as grey boxes that require you to click them before they do anything01:18
fluo123PatrickDickey:yeah offline. but that isnt an option anymore. or else its just a brick01:18
cappicardhey. anyone with a toshiba laptop where the entire usb subsystem is shut down when one plugs in their ipad?01:18
bobbyzfluo123: it prevents drive-by compromises where a site attempts to load a crafted java or flash applet that can cause system compromises01:19
fluo123bobbyz: yes. but if you run bleachbit and then go only to a secure https site that has not been compromised, you dont need the java/script blockers01:20
Peyamhi01:21
PatrickDickeyDoesn't Bleachbit just clean out your computer? I mean like your caches and other stuff?01:22
PatrickDickeyHi Peyam01:22
PeyamI used a alias matlab ='/usr/local/...' in .bashrc01:22
bobbyzfluo123: "site that has not been compromised" <-- That is precisely the issue...it's common these days for hackers to inject malicious tags into otherwise trusted sites01:22
fluo123PatrickDickey:yes.01:22
bobbyzand ad networks01:22
Peyamwhen I try to make a manu in menu manager and write this commend. matlab doesnt appear01:23
PatrickDickey!matlab | Peyam, have you looked at this information?01:24
ubottuPeyam, have you looked at this information?: MATLAB is a high-level language and interactive environment that enables you to perform computationally intensive tasks. More info and install instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB01:24
fluo123Any good security program you recomend to keep your pc safe? like, a must-have?01:26
mguyfluo123: Really don't need one with Ubuntu01:27
fluo123add-ons?01:27
bobbyzfluo123: well, you can install ufw for managing iptables firewall rules if you want01:28
phunyguyfluo123: load up Software Center, and type in gufw01:28
phunyguyit is a very easy to configure firewall application01:28
fluo123itś that thing, when I had windows I could always run spybot+malwarebytes+ccleaner. had avira/avast and had komodo firewall that warned me everytime some suspicious access. In ubuntu I dont have that. dont feel verry aware.01:29
dirtehowdy01:29
PeyamPatrickDickey: can't make it work01:29
PatrickDickeyfluo123: No-Script on Firefox. Ad-Block on both Chrome and Firefox. I've got F-Secure installed, but there are other antivirus for Linux (yes, I realize that I don't "need" one). Aside from that, diable Java, and practice good security habits01:29
tkempNot having much luck :/ PatrickDickey01:29
bobbyzfluo123: those are reactive security measures..you're running them after your system has already been compromised...Ubuntu will help you keep from being compromised in the first place01:29
mguyfluo123: Ubuntu isn't vulnerable to that kind of stuff01:29
fluo123phunyguy:any rule you recommend?01:30
phunyguyfluo123: by default it denies incoming traffic, except for what you set as exceptions.01:30
phunyguyyou have to enable it first, though,01:30
|nv|s|b|ejust install noscript and adblock, together, if configured properly should be enough01:30
PatrickDickeyfluo123: One other thing I recommend is if you're going to a secure site, don't have any other tabs open. Or use the incognito feature that's in Chrome (and I think firefox also).01:32
phunyguyPatrickDickey: Firefox only runs in private browsing mode, it closes the rest while you do that01:32
fluo123I'll try the add ons. by the way, someone said chrome. google is evil now. If it wasnt for the tool for webdev, I'd stick with chromium.01:32
PatrickDickeyfluo123: Google isn't any more evil than any other company.01:33
PatrickDickeyIMHO.01:33
harrisrhow do i make a shared folder01:33
|nv|s|b|eghostery is a good one for ff also01:33
PatrickDickeyharrisr: Are you sharing it with other peple on the same computer, other linux computers, or windows computers?01:34
fluo123PatrickDickey: In the past I would agree with you. now, I dont.01:34
harrisrwith openelec01:34
phunyguy!nfs | harrisr01:35
ubottuharrisr: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.01:35
phunyguyif openelec supports it anyway01:35
fluo123one more thing, does chromium has webdev tools/debug just like chrome?01:35
PatrickDickey!samba | harrisr in case openelec only supports this01:35
ubottuharrisr in case openelec only supports this: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.01:35
PatrickDickeyfluo123: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome01:36
dirteQuestion: I have my private key on a windows machine used to ssh to my remote box, i coped the private key to my ubuntu partition, is this the right way to use ssh with private key to connect to remote server?  sudo ssh -i private_key.ppk user@my.box01:37
benzrfasking again: how can I make it so that alt-tab ONLY switches between programs and never between windows from the same one? (in unity)01:37
moesWhat is the command for starting unity01:37
dirteit prompts me for password for private key but says invalid passwd01:37
mguydirte: generate one with ssh-keygen and copy it to the server01:37
phunyguybenzrf: that may not be possible01:37
phunyguymoes: unity --replace01:37
fluo123still about security, you don't tell me someone would go into a defcon contest with a 'plain vanilla' ubuntu and not peing pwnd.01:37
animeBoyhello. i just upgrade form ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. now i cant change of desktop environment. when i click in another option in log in screen nothing happens01:37
dirtemguy: I already created keys on server and locked down server to only accept connection from key :]01:38
mguyfluo123: If you're going to defcon all bets are off01:38
mJaykanimeBoy: do you see the lists of other desktops ?01:38
dirtei'm able to connect from windows partition - can I copy the key to another box aka ubuntu partition and still use it?01:38
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fluo123I'm not going :) . just to give a picture of how secure it is.01:39
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animeBoymJayk: yes i see them. i click on one but when i log in i end in lxde again01:39
mguyfluo123: It's plenty secure enough01:40
fluo123mguy:I'm not going :) . just to give a picture of how secure it is.01:40
mJaykeven if you select another one ?01:40
mguyuntil you start installing every package under the sun and don't configure anything01:40
phunyguyfluo123: with that firewall, it is a good start as it is a very secure implementation of ufw.01:40
mJaykanimeBoy: thats strange I would suggest removing the desktops and reinstalling sudo apt-get remove kde-plasma or w/e then sudo apt-get update the nreinstall it01:40
dirtePermission denied (publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic)01:41
animeBoymJayk: yes.i click on options but it dont react01:41
mJaykanimeBoy: since the upgrade have you updated?01:41
mJaykyour packages01:41
xxaMLOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)01:41
animeBoyyes. i try to update01:42
mJaykanimeBoy: and it all updates ok ?01:42
animeBoyyes. no error01:42
mJaykanimeBoy: im stuck id try to remove one and reinstall it with apt-get01:42
animeBoymJayk: i gonna try install open box or something01:43
fluo123how about fedora ? it has lots of security features: Policykit, SELinux, etc:. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/Features01:44
phunyguyplease don't recommend other distros here.01:44
fluo123phunyguy:ok. why? (my first time on #ubuntu). are you a ubuntu-fundamentalist?01:45
phunyguyfluo123: because it is not allowed.01:45
phunyguyfluo123: this channel is for ubuntu support only.01:45
ner0xTrying to run ubuntuone headless because I'm on Xubuntu. It installs properly, oauth is set properly, but it doesn't actually sync anything. Any idea where to look first?01:45
fluo123phunyguy:ok. sorry. Do you know any # where I can discuss that?01:45
PatrickDickeyfluo123: If you want to know how secure Fedora is, you could check in #fedora01:45
phunyguyfluo123: #fedora01:46
mguyfluo123: #linux-social01:46
phunyguythat too01:46
fluo123ok. thank you all :)01:46
phunyguyyou're welcome :)01:46
PatrickDickeyfluo123: Maybe even #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to compare/contrast them.01:46
animeBoymJayk: i install conky- dock. log out and now i have a cairo session option. but whe i click on it nothing happens :/01:49
Bollsaqguvcview doesn't detect my webcam. What should I do?01:49
Bollsaqoops01:49
BollsaqI meant my camcorder01:49
Bollsaqguvcview doesn't detect my camcorder01:49
phunyguyBollsaq: first of all, what does your nick mean..? o.O01:49
phunyguyand is it offensive...01:49
phunyguyBollsaq: also there may be some hints in dmesg01:50
Bollsaqphunyguy: Its my last name. What does yours mean?01:50
phunyguyWOW.... ok.01:50
phunyguyanyways.  Check dmesg for some hints01:51
phunyguydmesg | tail preferrably after you try to connect01:51
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phunyguypastebin the output if you would like01:51
ubulovehi01:52
phunyguyhi01:52
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ubuloveis it possible to have themes on lubuntu 12.10 ?01:53
animeBoyany one have seen this before?01:53
dustinspringmanubulove: what sort of themes?01:54
phunyguyubulove: is LXAppearance available?01:54
ubulovedustinspringman: I used to have a mac os theme on ubuntu 08.04 :P now am using lubuntu 12.10 on a different system.01:54
c5nh6k2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212764901:54
phunyguyanimeBoy: seen what?01:54
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ubulovephunyguy: Customize Look and Feel is available.01:55
animeBoyok i  try to explain better.01:55
animeBoyi just upgrade form ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. now i cant change of desktop environment. when i click in another option in log in screen nothing happens01:55
animeBoyi see the options01:55
animeBoyi click on them01:55
animeBoybuttons shake01:55
phunyguyc5nh6k2: it would help to give the nickname of the person you are talking to.01:55
LargePrimedear ubuntuionions01:55
SuicideSladeUbuntu onions?01:56
phunyguy!enter | animeBoy01:56
ubottuanimeBoy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:56
animeBoybut the icon next to my username dont change. and i cant change from lxde to unity01:56
LargePrimeany thoughts on server kernel options or ubuntu 12.1001:56
sam113101it's ubuntunians actually01:56
phunyguyLargePrime: what are you trying to ask?01:56
dustinspringmanubulove: I have many customizations on my 12.04... not "certain" if its the same on 12.10, but I'd presume the MAC style toolbar and window appearance themes being GTK+3.0 should be similar01:56
LargePrimeyes that is it sam11310101:56
BollsaqGuvcview doesn't detect my camcorder and I tried dmesg and don't know what the blue hell this means http://pastebin.com/sXRW1w2c01:57
ubulovedustinspringman: I wanna try some themes from gnome-look.org but am just asking not to ruin anything on lubuntu 12.10.01:57
LargePrimeIf my ubuntu 12.1 server should have a generic kernel or the low latency kernel or a grsecurity kernel01:57
LargePrimephunyguy:01:57
phunyguyBollsaq: it looks like the camcorder is detected by the system01:57
LargePrimeor even some other kernel01:57
animeBoysorry01:58
phunyguyLargePrime: that depends on your needs01:58
lapionBollsaq, is your camcorder onnected via firewire ?01:58
Bollsaqphunyguy: its connected to the laptop via usb01:58
phunyguy!polls | LargePrime01:58
ubottuLargePrime: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.01:58
SuicideSladeBollsaq: I had video problems with the 12.10 kernel as well. Going back to the 3.2 kernel solved them.01:58
BollsaqIts plugged in via dual-usb could that be why?01:58
dustinspringmanubulove: its pretty easy to recover if you don't like a GTK theme.. I went through about 2 dozen before I settled on my current setup...which I LOVE.. =D01:58
BollsaqI'm using my camcorder instead of my webcam because of regression bugs01:59
SuicideSladeBollsaq: The 12.10 kernel being 3.5, that is...01:59
Bollsaqsometimes regression bugs make me think about ditching Linux entirely.01:59
ubulovedustinspringman: Nice :P btw a silly question I think ! :P If I set ANY theme this would remove my LXDE or LXDE stays whatever I do with themes ?01:59
BollsaqSuicideSlade: I'm actually using 13.04 beta, hence the new guvcview and kdenlive and the regression bugs one of them has.01:59
SuicideSladeBollsaq: Sticking with LTS tends to avoid regression, ime.01:59
BollsaqSuicideSlade: not always. My printer used to work in Ubuntu before the LTS back about 2 or 3 years ago.02:00
BollsaqSuicideSlade: and again, more regression bugs made that useful printer useless :(02:00
dustinspringmanubulove: hmm..not 100% on that... I'm using unity+custom toolbar+theme... I've not tried putting any GTK themes on LXDE.. =/02:00
SuicideSladeBollsaq: Nothing's perfect. Isn't there a "+1" room for the beta support?02:00
phunyguy#ubuntu+1. SuicideSlade02:01
BollsaqSuicideSlade: you mentioned 12.10 that's why I mentioned what I currently run.02:01
SuicideSladeThank you, phunyguy.02:01
ubulovedustinspringman: lol :P that's what am trying to avoid u know! if i put any themes and lxde is removed an ****** :P02:01
ubulovedustinspringman: am ****** :P02:01
dustinspringmanubulove: I even have compiz running, even though not all the functions work, the basics do...like cubism and a few other things..02:01
SuicideSladeBollsaq: Which kernel is 13.04 using?02:02
ubulovedustinspringman: I'll give it a try for a theme because I don't really like lubuntu's menu icon etc.02:02
BollsaqCompiz freezes a lot, that's one thing I love about gnome-shell. No compiz.02:02
BollsaqSuicideSlade: I don't know.02:02
dustinspringmanubulove: I'm pretty sure it wont "remove" anything... you'd just have to go back and re-select the default LXDE interface stuff02:02
dustinspringmanbrb..02:02
SuicideSladeBollsaq: System info should tell you.02:02
BollsaqSuicideSlade: softpedia says 3.802:02
ubulovedustinspringman: yeap lxde won't be replaced. themes are just themes (checked it now in google)02:02
SuicideSladeAh, ok. Out of my depth, then. :-)02:02
dustinspringmanBollsaq: I'm using compiz on unity, works like a champ. only a few special things won't work.. but I can live without those..02:02
BollsaqSuicideSlade: info doesn't say what kernel02:03
ubuloveam registering a nickname here ! yay02:03
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BollsaqI need to register mine somehow.02:03
Bollsaqor else somene else will as a perverted joke.02:04
phunyguy!nickserv02:04
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode02:04
donnieIf I set an older 30gb hdd that I have as a swap drive only.. would that make my system awesome-er02:04
devilboyBollsaq, /ns help register02:04
SuicideSladedonnie: Not really.02:04
donnieDarn.. because when I install a linux system, it's usually really fast. Then all the constant update. makes it laggy and sluggish02:05
SuicideSladedonnie: Perhaps you should inspect what is running by default - maybe startup programs are bogging you down. How much memory do you have?02:06
phunyguydonnie: swap space is significantly slower that physical memory.02:06
donnieWell reason I'm on linux is for my 'older system' which I like... And I have 1gb of ram on a system that all I'm using it for is maybe some videos, music listening, and webbrowsing02:07
phunyguydonnie: usually the slowdowns happen with more software being added as they can add some background daemons.  Also I have seen bugs with things like /usr/bin/X eating a CPU core02:07
phunyguyso that could potentially be happening to you02:08
SuicideSladedonnie: Assuming you're using stock Ubuntu, you might look into a lighter desktop environment, for older hardware.02:08
donniephunguy: so how do I find out if that's the case?02:08
phunyguytelepathy does it to me also02:08
donnieSuicideSlade: I'm actually on xubuntu but no one in that room ever talks02:08
phunyguydonnie: system-monitor is a good start, as well as an app called htop02:08
phunyguy(terminal)02:08
SuicideSladehtop is amazingly useful.02:09
phunyguy!info htop02:09
ubottuhtop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (quantal), package size 64 kB, installed size 180 kB02:09
donniephunguy: sudo apt-get install htop?02:09
phunyguydonnie, you got it.02:09
phunyguythen run in said terminal02:09
Bollsaqdevilboy: got it registered. thanks bro :)02:10
donnieOk. Have it.. now what?02:10
phunyguydonnie is it running?02:11
devilboyBollsaq: np, registered too! because I'm falling in love with this ubu community !02:11
donnieRoot is at 17.0 cpu and it's /user/bin/X02:11
phunyguyis there anything utilizing near-100%?02:11
phunyguydonnie^^02:11
donnieNot at the moment no02:11
phunyguyok, then that is not the case.02:11
Bollsaqdevilboy: I prever xat chats. I wish the official Ubuntu chat was a xat.02:12
donniecould just be that chrome sucks02:12
phunyguyI am afraid your system may just not be able to handle what you are doing.02:12
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phunyguyare you on regular ubuntu, donnie?02:12
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donniephunyguy: No xubuntu02:13
phunyguydonnie: ahhh ok.02:13
donnieIt's just no one ever talks in that room02:13
phunyguy!nickspam | ________________02:14
ubottu________________: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead. See also « /msg ubottu Guidelines »02:14
________________phunyguy, not funny.02:14
phunyguywasn't trying to be....02:14
phunyguy:)02:15
phunyguy!nick | ________________, this is also useful02:17
ubottu________________, this is also useful: Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode.02:17
rockyhello guys02:17
phunyguyhi rockey02:17
phunyguyrocky**02:17
________________phunyguy, Congratulations, prick, you've just made my ignore list. Was it worth it to you to make your "witty" comments and snide in-jokes to your irc pals about me if it meant you are now disappeared from my online experience? Have a nice life02:18
phunyguy________________: was just trying to help.02:18
devilboy________________, you can find a better nick. I'm sure.02:19
sam113101I can't connect to wpa enterprise with my netbook02:20
sam113101;_;02:20
moesUbuntu-10.04 update manager downloaded linux-generic-2.6.32.46.53 and linux-image 2.6.32.46.105..this kernel will not boot02:21
peterrooney________________: no witty comments were made, and no in-jokes were made.  He pointed out that you were doing something that is exceptionally impolite in a channel with in excess of one thousand users.02:22
peterrooneyif only one person in twenty did it, the channel would likely become useless.02:24
phunyguythe constant parting and joining is enough to really make it scroll.02:24
phunyguybest not to add to it.02:24
IdleOneok folks, lets drop it. was one nick change, not the end of the world02:25
SuicideSladeI usually filter out the join/part messages...02:25
IdleOneback to support :)02:25
SuicideSladeYou can do it!02:25
________________peterrooney, devilboy, phunyguy, it was a joke :P02:26
rockyhi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds?02:26
rockyhi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds to have 32 & 64 bit adobe flash plugins installed?02:27
moesUbuntu-10.04 update manager downloaded linux-generic-2.6.32.46.53 and linux-image 2.6.32.46.105..this kernel will not boot02:28
phunyguymoes, have patience.  I know it has been a while since you asked, but not much scrollback has happened.  :)  If nobody knows, they won't answer.02:29
phunyguywhat are your symptoms?02:29
phunyguyalso, 10.04 will be EOL very soon....02:30
moesphunyguy..It brings me to a log in02:30
phunyguymoes: text based?02:30
coder7of9i am trying to compile http://code.google.com/p/mod-auth-token/ on the latest unbuntu. i am receiving many errors: http://pastebin.com/ZP1Gpgcb02:30
wilee-nileemoes, Are you aware the desktop version of 10.04 is not far from end of life?02:30
phunyguymoes: and are you using something like nvidia or ati hardware for video?02:31
moesYes I am aware but I need it until I get 12.04 configured02:31
moesnvidia 173 driver02:31
wilee-nileemoes, Cool, just a concern on my part. ;)02:32
phunyguymoes, how did you install that driver?02:32
bcbc2ls _release -a02:32
moesThrough the addition driver panel 3 years ago02:33
phunyguymoes, try to log in via that console, and 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-173'02:34
kjfdskjhfewrjunvwhat driver?02:34
kjfdskjhfewrjunvahh02:34
moesI am using the old 2.6.32.45 kernel to speak...I tried install nvidia without any sucess02:35
phunyguymoes maybe there is some confusion02:35
phunyguywhat symptoms are you getting via the new kernel02:35
kjfdskjhfewrjunvhave you tried updating your kernel?  Seeing if you have options for the nvidea module?02:36
phunyguykjfdskjhfewrjunv: that's the issue.02:36
moesI normally auto login in when I try to boot via the new kernel I get a logon prompt02:36
phunyguykjfdskjhfewrjunv: his issue is he can't use the kernel that was just installed via updates on that PC02:36
phunyguymoes, define login prompt02:37
phunyguymoes, graphical or text02:37
moestext02:37
phunyguyso X isn't starting02:37
phunyguyplease pastebin the output of dmesg02:37
moesThat what it looks like02:37
HoytCan I remove downloaded debs automatically after installation?02:38
phunyguyI don't remember where the X log is stored in 10.04...02:38
Hoyt'apt-get clean all' is not automatic02:38
phunyguyHoyt: sudo apt-get autoclean  ?02:39
Hoytno I mean, after `apt-get install XX`, I want the downloaded caches to be removed automatically02:39
HoytJust like YUM02:39
kjfdskjhfewrjunvxinit?02:39
Snydahey all02:39
dirtemy wireless craps out all the time, i have to reboot to fix it, anyone have similar problems? (laptop)02:40
trismcoder7of9: make sure you have automake, autoconf and libtool installed02:40
moesIf I get through login and get a prompt what do I enter to continue02:40
holsteindirte: i have.. and i have tried other drivers to resolve02:40
phunyguydirte: actually yes.  and a 'sudo service network-manager restart' will also work02:40
SnydaQuestion why after install of Ubuntu 12.04 lts amd 64 why does it not fully install?02:40
phunyguyso you don't have to do a full reboot02:40
kjfdskjhfewrjunvI don't see an option for nvidea when trying to compile kernel 3.8.4-1 using make nconfig02:41
phunyguySnyda: what won't fully install?02:41
dirtethx phunyguy I saved that cmd :)... i'll have to look for drivers holstein02:41
phunyguySnyda: what is missing, or not happening.02:41
kjfdskjhfewrjunvlater all02:42
SnydaIDK I go thru the reformating of the Drive evereything loads up works fine then if turn off I have to reinstall for it to work02:42
phunyguySnyda: not sure I follow02:42
SoruGood night02:42
phunyguySnyda: what do you mean "if I turn off I have to reinstall".. are you turning it off during the install...?02:43
Snydainstalls fine but when I reboot it shows a bunch of stuff loading but never does02:43
phunyguySnyda: does it work after the reinstall?02:44
rockyhi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds to have 32 & 64 bit adobe flash plugins installed?02:44
Snydano not turning off while install after I reboot after install02:44
JosephFdoes it stop loading at a particular line of text and just sit there?02:44
Snydait works so I use it surf net then turn off02:44
phunyguyyou said you have to reinstall for it to work... does it actually work after that?02:44
phunyguyoh i see.02:44
Snydawont load up again02:44
phunyguythat is odd.  Is there something potentially that you are installing after the reinstall that breaks it>02:45
phunyguylike updates?02:45
Snydaruns thru 10-20 mins woth of stuff then stops02:45
Snydano not updates like it isn't installing something correctly02:46
Snydait seems to me02:46
Snydayea it works after installs fine02:46
Snydait just I can't bookmark anything02:46
SnydaI can just dont save02:46
phunyguySnyda: you are being really confusing, not trying to offend, but I am having a hard time actually understanding what your issue is.02:47
phunyguyyou say it seems to work fine, but not really..02:47
phunyguyI dont know what that means.02:47
renothinghi, all02:48
Snydaasked me if it works fine after 2nd install. I said yes just can't save ne thing02:48
Snydaforget that part02:48
phunyguyWhat can't you save...02:48
peawormsworthI would like to have a user login to a text terminal console from the lightdm login. Is this possible?02:49
SnydaSo I can install as many times as I want run with out install02:49
phunyguyI give up.02:49
linux_pinguywhat is the best Linux distro  linux pinguy or linux easy peasy??02:49
phunyguy!best | linux_pinguy02:50
ubottulinux_pinguy: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:50
wilee-nileeSnyda, I would check the md5sum of the ISO02:50
SnydaBut if I install-reformat,install permeantly using whole hard) I can boot 1 time after install use but on 2nd reboot I get alot of command looking lines02:50
wilee-nileeor cde02:50
wilee-nileecd02:50
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Snydahelp ya understand?02:50
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phunyguyyes, but then you said you can't save anything.02:51
Erealzhello how do i give the webserver user write access to the www and every subdir?02:51
phunyguySnyda: that is the part that I am asking for clarification on.02:51
phunyguyErealz: sudo chown -vR www-data:www-data /var/www02:53
Snydacause I have to reinstall so whats the point. I said at end "I can save but can't use them next boot" something like that02:53
Snydak ill chk md5 but if that's ok ? after that/02:53
phunyguySnyda: OK I get it now.02:53
phunyguySnyda: it sounds like that is the issue02:53
Snydamd5?02:53
phunyguyyes, corrupt installation media.02:53
wilee-nilee!md5sum02:54
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows02:54
Snydak thx phunyguy: ill chk it02:54
peawormsworthis it possible to have a user login from lightdm, but end up with a terminal console instead of a unity or gnome window. Is this possible?02:54
Erealzdud that did phunyguy thanx you just help me install owncloud02:55
Rad-Hey, how do I exec startx on boot?02:55
Rad-Ubuntu is ignoring my .bash_profile02:55
peawormsworthErealz: I think if you make the directory the same user/group as the user assigned to web requests in the apache conf.02:56
phunyguypeawormsworth: I'm sure it is possible, if you want to delve into the config files of lightdm02:56
phunyguybut peawormsworth why are you trying to do this?02:56
trismpeawormsworth: you can definitely create a session that just launches a terminal (gdm used to include one by default), it's not very pleasant though, might like something like ratpoison better02:56
Rad-start x on login*02:57
phunyguyRad-: something wrong with lightdm?02:57
Rad-phunyguy, what's lightdm02:57
peawormsworthphunyguy: i just want to make one user forced to go to the terminal... and it will run a text application by default. I would prefer this over requesting the user go to another TTY to login and then switch back to lightdm for usual login.02:57
Rad-Oh. I don't have a display manager right now, apparently.02:58
Rad-Minimal install seemed to give me only a shell02:58
trismpeawormsworth: the sessions are just .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/, just create one and put the Exec= line to whatever you want02:58
phunyguyRad-: yeah, you may want to install lightdm or the like02:58
phunyguylet that handle getting X moving for you02:58
Rad-I usually run X and a WM though02:59
Rad-that's it02:59
peawormsworthtrism: I will look into that. I just do not want to bring up unity at all tho.02:59
phunyguyRad-: ok...02:59
wilee-nileeRad-, since you mention scripts as you might see here there are multiple instances of a startx usage. From a live cd I believe it is f10. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/startx.1.html02:59
phunyguyI need a break.   see you guys in a bit.03:00
Rad-ah. i need to create an .xinitrc lol03:00
trismpeawormsworth: you don't need too, this is a simple xterm session: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642088/03:00
Rad-Btw, thanks. Ubuntu isn't my normal distro but school requires it03:00
peawormsworthtrism: thx03:01
JosephFRad-, what did you use to do a minimal installation? I'm wondering because I would like to do so. Did you use the mini.iso netinstaller or something else?03:03
linux_pinguyi did install alot of linux distro,  easy peasy, pinguy, ubuntu, fedora, vector linux, fedora.. the best , vector linux , pinguy , easy peasy , give it a try03:03
Rad-JosephF, mini.iso. LTS03:03
JosephFcheers03:04
Rad-does ubuntu use rc.d or systemd03:04
Rad-and also. cheers to ubuntu for including dmenu with the i3 metapackage03:04
Rad-still can't get x to start at login though03:05
Jonathan__I was wondering if someone had some ideas/help.  I am new to ubuntu and through the update manager I was told to upgrade to 11.10.  I did this and everything seemed ok, but after reboot I don't get a GUI but just a black screen (no signal).  Could anyone help me?03:07
linux_pinguywhy jonathan did you not install ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 ??03:08
holsteinJonathan__: i would just install 12.04 or newer.. backup and reinstall.. it'll take less time03:08
Jonathan__I didn't have the option, I hadn't updated for awhile and had a notifcation in the top right of "update needed" and that I couldn't install any critical / new updates until I updated to 11.10.  I am very new to ubuntu and just want ot be able to see my desktop.  I can get a terminal, but if I boot normally (not recovery) it acts as if the computer never booted (no signal to monitor)03:10
JosephFRad-, I've only done what you want to do on Arch, but what have you tried doing to get X starting on login? I think you will need to put a line at the bottom of ~/.bash_profile that reads "exec startx". I don't see why it wouldn't work on ubuntu as well.03:10
Rad-JosephF, well i'm actuall an arch user too and my .bash_profile is this "[[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx" per the arch wiki.03:13
Ben64Rad-: why not install the desktop version of ubuntu03:14
Rad-Ben64, what do you mean?03:14
Ben64Rad-: instead of going minimal and trying to add gui on top03:14
peawormsworthtrism: i created a new /usr/share/xsessions/terminal.desktop file. Then for one user I switched the .dmrc file to have "Session=terminal". However, the user still goes into unity and the .dmrc files keeps switching back to say Session=ubuntu.03:14
Rad-Ben64, because all i want is X and i3.03:15
Rad-I have i3 running. just can't get x to start on login03:15
trismpeawormsworth: just switching the .dmrc can be tricky with accountsservice being used, might need to mess around with /var/lib/AccountsService/users/username03:20
peawormsworthtrism: i should have just clicked the ubuntu icon from the lightdm login window for this user and switched it to my new "terminal" option. This worked. So i am fine now.03:21
peawormsworthThanks for your help.03:21
trismpeawormsworth: yeah definitely easier03:21
Rad-Any ideas on why Ubuntu is ignoring my ~/.bash_profile ?03:21
rockyhi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds to have 32 & 64 bit adobe flash plugins installed?03:24
Rad-Also does ubuntu use systemd?03:25
peawormsworthtrism: I am searching to find a specification for all of the key value pairs in the xsessions/*.desktop files. I will keep searching, but if you know of a link or keywords to search on this, it would help.03:26
trismpeawormsworth: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s05.html03:28
peawormsworthtrism: most appreciated!03:29
sublim21hey all.  what would be the easiest way to create a keyboard shortcut to move files/folders to another directory?  im kind of a ubuntu newbie03:32
sublim21have mercy03:32
Rad-sublim21, create a keyboard shortcut...? What's wrong with mv target dest03:33
sublim21Rad-: heres the problem.  I got like 4 hard drives, with multiple files, of multiple copies of stuff.  im gonna sit here, and chug through all the files and folers.  i wanna quickly move the files/folders to other files/folders03:36
NimbleRad-, ubuntu uses upstart03:37
lxle#phillw03:37
xodiaksublim21, I'm late to the conversation guy, but Beyond Compare might help you out a bit...?03:37
Rad-mimble this is an answer to which question?03:38
Rad-sublim21, yes..?03:39
Rad-so let's say i'm sitting in ~/folder103:39
sublim21Rad-: i don't know what upstart is03:39
sublim21im looking at beyond compare right now03:39
Rad-I want to move all the files in folder1 to folder 203:39
JosephFRad-: Ubuntu doesn't use systemd, it uses Upstart03:39
peawormsworththis should be connected to flattr or bitcoin for tipping.03:40
Rad-cd ~/folder1; mv * ~/folder203:40
Rad-i belive03:40
xodiakit's pretty cool. Made for comparing folders, but you can ctrl select and copy or move folders / files to other drives. I can't live without it at work.03:40
eN_Joyeach day i have this line in my log: Mar 23 08:00:42 zjd2013 anacron[31419]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (exit status: 1) (mailing output), how do i find out exactly which job caused the problem?03:41
Rad-eN_Joy, isn't there a cron log file somewhere03:41
Rad-http://serverfault.com/questions/136461/how-to-check-cron-logs-in-ubuntu03:41
sublim21beyond compare appears to be the program im looking for.  basically, i've done the classic, omg omg gotta back up EVERYTHING.  but now i have like backups of backups that were only temporary backups to begin with. :/03:42
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eN_Joyi filtered out CRON logs, but can trace it back...03:42
peterrooneysublim21: no tool can simplify the task of straightening out historical disorganization.03:43
xodiaksublim21, Been there. It's easy to get a buttload of files everywhere. Trying to be better.03:44
myersgI installed ubuntu on my netbook but every time I try and login it gives me this error: Cound not update ICEauthority file /home/myersg/.ICEauthority03:44
xodiaksublim21, You get like 30 days. Not a month but more like 30 days of use. I used it for a year before I purchased. Like 1 day a month03:45
sublim21xodiak: this is looking good.  it's also on windows and ubuntu, which is nice.   im gonna give it a shot.03:48
peawormsworthmyersg: not running ice here, but should do the basics and check the file is owned and writable by that user: "ll /home/myersg/.ICEauthority" ... and if file doesnt exist then maybe try "touch <filename>" while logged in as myersg. And also if that produces and error, check the filesystem is not full with "df -h" and also that the drive didnt mount "ro" or something like that.03:49
myersgpeawormsworth I checked and it is owned by me.03:50
peawormsworthmyersg: and I assume the write flag is ok too. hmm.03:50
myersgit says re--- 1 myersg myersg 0 Mar 23:21:25 .ICEauthority03:50
myersgDo I need ice?03:51
xodiakpossibly stupid question... Is there a way to make my Ubuntu 12.10 window menu toolbar show on the window instead of the panel?03:51
xodiak(any open windows)03:51
Rad-JosephF, so apparently the problem is that UBuntu can't check that I'm on tty1. If I just do what you did with an empty "exec i3" it works. weird03:52
peawormsworthmyersg: o crap... i have an Ice file too. I dindt know that. I guess we all do., I thought you were running something different. sry. Im not sure i can help you as I dont know wat im talking about. sry.03:52
myersgpeawormsworth would it be ok if i did: rm .ICEauthority  to remove it? or would that mess stuff up?03:52
myersghmm03:52
myersgwell.. its ubuntu 12.0403:53
myersg32 bit03:53
peawormsworthmyersg: I dont know. but I suspect it is a bad idea to delete this file.03:54
JosephFRad-: Do you mean that in the ~/.bash_profile you  just have "exec i3" ? Or in a different file?03:54
myersgI just did..03:54
myersgI am loged in now..03:54
Rad-JosephF, yeah03:54
myersgseemed to work..03:54
myersgdon't know what kind of problems I may have caused though..03:54
peawormsworthmyersg: Ok... I guess it is regenerated on login if it doesnt exist. Good work.03:54
PatrickDickeymyersg: if you check, it should have recreated that file. As long as you can log in, don't delete it again. YOu shouldn't need to.03:55
myersgdo you know the exact location of the file?03:55
Rad-i'm also kinda weirded out that i don't logout when i exit i3.03:55
PatrickDickeymyersg: Did you encrypt your home folder and change your password, or install Gnome 3 by chance?03:56
JosephFRad-: how are you exiting i3?03:56
peawormsworthmyersg: you told us the file is here: /home/myersg/.ICEauthority03:56
Rad-JosephF, mod+shift+e03:56
superbootlastlog i303:56
myersgI don't see it.. could it be hidden?03:56
superbootlastlog exec i303:56
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superbootoops...03:57
myersgand I did not install gnome 303:57
PatrickDickeymyersg: that's what the . means. It's a hidden file.03:57
xodiakah ha:  sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu03:57
myersghow do I show hidden files?03:57
xodiakctrl + h03:57
myersgit must have regenerated its self or something.. its there03:58
PatrickDickeymyersg: from a command line  ls -la or what xodiak suggests from nautilus.03:58
peawormsworthmyersg: CTRL-ALT-t and then type "la" or "ll /home/myers/.ICEauthority"03:58
PatrickDickeyThere was someone else in here earlier with the same (or a similar problem). ICEAuthority errors must be going around now like the flu.03:59
peawormsworthmyersg: also, from the graphical file viewer, show hidden under View menu03:59
myersgok, thank you.. like I said, it does show up. so most likely it regenerated its self upon login.04:00
PatrickDickeymyersg: You didn't answer my first question, or if you did, I missed it. Did you encrypt your home folder when you installed?04:00
myersgyes I did04:01
FlynsarmyI have some WD 2TB blacks plugged into a RocketRaid 2760A. when I do a sudo hdparm -S 180 /dev/sdj I get "setting standby to 180 (15 minutes). HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setidle) failed: Operation not permitted". why is it not permitted?04:01
myersgI just installed tonight.., and I have now encrypted it.04:01
PatrickDickeymyersg: That might be where the problem is then. When you encrypted it, it didn't update the .ICEAuthority file properly, so you weren't able to log in.04:02
peawormsworthis there a graphical way to create a new user that has an encrypted home?04:03
myersgno no, I could not login.. that was BEFORE I encryped it.04:03
myersgI did not just a second ago.04:03
myersgI did that*04:03
chunkyheadhas anyone ever heard of using python to code by voice?04:04
peawormsworthmyersg: did you create a new user that has an encrypted home? and using a graphical interface? I have been using the terminal for this. If you know how to do this graphically, please describe.04:04
BrianHOk, I'm running into a major hiccup and I can't seem to find a way to fix it.  I'm installing 13.04 on a system that previously ran 12.10.  Installation from a live USB goes well and I get to where it wants to reboot.  The system reboots and I'm stuck at a purple screen.04:04
PatrickDickeychunkyhead: no. I've heard of a program called Palaver, or "Linux Speech Recognition".04:04
peawormsworthBrianH: 13.04 specific questions are in #ubuntu+104:05
BrianHI let the purple screen sit for about 4 hours and nothing changes.  I force the system down, and then it loads with an error "An error occurred while mounting /boot"04:05
FlynsarmyI have some WD 2TB blacks plugged into a RocketRaid 2760A. when I do a sudo hdparm -S 180 /dev/sdj I get "setting standby to 180 (15 minutes). HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setidle) failed: Operation not permitted". why is it not permitted?04:05
chunkyheadPatrickDickey, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SkdfdXWYaI epic shit04:06
PatrickDickeyBrianH: You'll have better luck in the #ubuntu+1 channel, as peawormsworth mentioned. You could try nomodeset also though.04:06
myersgpeawormsworth I am a little confused right now.., I just installed it, using the wizzard. when I was unable to login the first time, I started the terminal (F2) and thn rm ICEauthority  and logged in using kdm04:06
BrianHPatrickDickey: how can I get to where I can enter nomodreset?  Just esc through the boot process?04:06
PatrickDickey!nomodeset | BrianH04:07
ubottuBrianH: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter04:07
BrianHthanks :)04:07
PatrickDickeyNo problem BrianH Hopefully it fixes the problem.04:07
myersgI need sound help04:08
myersgit is not picking up my sound04:08
myersgon the top bar it shows the <| --04:08
* PatrickDickey is out for a while. Have a good day/evening/night everyone.04:08
myersgand when I go to sound settings there is nothing to chose from.04:09
ferronicaanyone help me regarding GEARY Mail04:12
holsteinferronica: did you ask the geary folks? otherwise, i might just use thunderbird since its working, and well suppported04:13
ferronicaholstein, you mean geary specific channel04:14
ferronicaholstein, where to ask geary people04:15
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holsteinferronica: i would go to the site, and just ask where they say.. forum or email.. whatever04:15
ferronicaholstein, hmmm04:15
ferronicaholstein, dont know when do they reply04:16
holsteinferronica: http://blog.yorba.org/04:16
holsteinferronica: did you join the mailing list? http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary04:17
ferronicaholstein, no04:18
myersgI need help with sound04:18
myersgor how do I file a bug report?04:18
holstein!audio | myersg04:18
ubottumyersg: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.04:18
holstein!bug | myersg04:18
ubottumyersg: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.04:18
exploitdoes anyone speak spanish?04:18
holstein!es | exploit04:18
ubottuexploit: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:18
exploitOK04:19
abetusk_Sorry for the stupid question, but unless I press a space after a single or double quote, it won't actually appear.  If I press another character after a single quote, say, I get things like this áçé, etc04:20
netherlands6hi I just done installing ubuntu and when restarting I got this error: error unknow filesystem and I see the command line grub rescue04:20
abetusk_It's a keyboard thing, right?  Where do I set this to be an american english keyboard layout?04:20
myersghow do I restart pulseaudio?04:20
netherlands6Im on the live cd atm04:20
holsteinmyersg: you can just kill it, and it should come back04:21
myersghow do I do that?04:22
holsteinmyersg: i found this by searching "ubuntu kill pulseaudio" http://askubuntu.com/questions/230888/is-there-another-way-to-restart-ubuntu-12-04s-sound-system-if-pulseaudio-alsa-d and it looks like what i would do04:23
ferronicaholstein, subscribed to mailing list04:25
holsteinferronica: cheers! good luck04:25
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amigamiahi if you are unzipping a zipfile from the shell what is the command? gzip <filename>04:28
myersgthat didn't seem to work04:28
amigamia?04:28
amigamiai just installed unzip. i guess i just use unzip filename04:29
amigamiablah04:29
holsteinmyersg: what the issue? maybe its nothing to do with pluse.. you shouldnt need to restart it04:30
m_WHi, so I'm on 12.04 and whenever I try to apt-get update now I get 404 Not Found all over the place. I disabled all external ppa's and selected Download from Server for United States in Software Sources. I'm not behind a proxy or anything. It was working fine a few days ago, I am stumped :/04:33
holsteinm_W: i might just copy a known good sources file to be sure.. and try pinging the IP's..04:34
m_Wholstein, ok is there a good place to get a good sources file?04:34
holsteinm_W: i would just google.. or use a live CD if i didnttrust that04:35
m_Wholstein, ok04:35
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Rad-So... Ubuntu doesn't have termite or uvxrt?04:38
sam113101you can download urxvt04:39
sam113101from the repos04:39
Rad-apt-cache search urxvt yields yeah and colortest?04:39
sam113101rxvt-unicode04:40
noenoe_76hello04:41
Rad-meh. you can tell i use termite >.>04:41
noenoe_76i wanna play,,,04:42
sam113101what do you mean?04:42
noenoe_76i wanna play nintendo64 win mupen64plus...but not look gui...04:46
Rad-Highest veresion of vte in ubuntu is 2.9 >.>>>04:46
noenoe_76how to install gui for latest mupen64plus on ubuntu 12.04 lts?04:47
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netherlands6http://pastebin.com/ZavkNJTd04:56
GlenKso I just hit the ubuntu page and started downloading 12.10.  what architecture would that be though?  x86 or x86_64?04:56
GlenKfriggen page doesn't even seem to have a mirror list...04:57
JosephFGlenK, it should say the architecture in the filename04:58
GlenKoh, yeah, right.  got truncated or whatever I'm trying to say.  anyhow, is there no mirror list on this friggen stupid stupid website?  dumbed down I guess...04:59
JosephFhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads has most things inc. a torrent file05:00
netherlands6please http://pastebin.com/ZavkNJTd05:00
GlenKreleases.  Maybe that automatically goes to mirrors?  bah.  I'd like to choose05:01
Rad-netherlands6, you're trying to umount your hdd while you're running your computer???05:02
netherlands6Rad Ubuntu is install on a external HDD05:03
netherlands6im on a live cd atm and stuck on it until I fix grub05:04
Rad-http://askubuntu.com/questions/177825/how-to-mount-an-external-hdd05:05
Rad-http://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/05:07
netherlands6sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /media05:08
netherlands6mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,05:08
netherlands6       missing codepage or helper program, or other error05:08
netherlands6       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try05:08
netherlands6       dmesg | tail  or so05:08
FloodBot1netherlands6: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:08
netherlands6ok goodnite then this isnt helping at all everyone sleeping I guess will try in 8 hours05:10
Rad-netherlands6, did you format your hdd correctly?05:12
netherlands6ya I was on ubuntu few mins ago then it ask to restart to apply the update then I got the error: error unknow filesystem then I see the command line grub rescue05:14
audiocan you add kde pannels and krunner/run in gnome-shell or unity?05:15
maestrojedI upgraded to Ubutntu12 and the optical out on my sound card wouldn't work. I am about to downgrade. I installed XBMCbuntu which is built on Ubuntu12 and the optical out works! Does anyone have any advice how I might get my sound card working in Ubuntu12.?05:20
jimi_my x server stopped working after upgrade... it shows an error message like unable to find module 1915 or somethong, and then dies...05:26
jimi_i had to manually load prior kernel05:26
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mnkhi all05:33
edson_hi05:34
mnkI'm trying to install passenger 4 with multi ruby support05:34
mnkand I've installed passenger via apt-get on ubuntu05:35
mnkbut I keep getting the following error:05:35
mnk.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.8.7-p371/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `gem_original_require': no such file to load -- phusion_passenger (LoadError)05:35
mnkevery time I try and access the site05:35
maestrojedIf Ubuntu12 won't work for me, is Ubuntu11 better then Ubuntu10?05:38
audioo.o05:41
Noskcajmaestrojed, there are two current versions, 12.04.2 and 12.10. get one of them05:41
maestrojedNoskcaj My sound card won't work in Ubuntu12.04 or 12.10. It use to work in Ubuntu10. I am trying to decide if I should bother with Ubuntu11 or just roll back to 10. My sound card is a must05:42
Noskcajmaestrojed, there is 11.10 and 11.04 , but maybe try 13.04 (beta1) instead. but ask for help on the driver05:43
maestrojedI have played with the driver a ton. Sought help for over a week. I will try 13.04.05:44
Noskcajok, good luck05:44
maestrojedIs the general opinion that 11.x was better then 10.x? It seemed like a short cycle. I guess that is what I was wondering05:45
ben1253i am unable to see any video on ubuntu?05:47
lotuspsychjeany packages for ubuntu that can download from soundcloud?05:56
lotuspsychjefirefox lags on it badly05:56
amh345evening all.   im using unzip to decompress a file.  is there anyway i can know if that file is completed it's decompression?05:59
lotuspsychjeamh345: try the commandline05:59
amh345?05:59
amh345im using the command line.06:00
amh345err terminal06:00
amh345im trying to automate some processes. and i'm looking for a way to know if a file has completed it's decompression.06:00
lotuspsychjeamh345: try some option to the unzip command06:00
lotuspsychjelike --verbose maybe06:01
sjihs_hi, I am using zsh on urxvt/tmux terminal. The prompt displays irregular characters as this screenshot shows http://imgur.com/7KU6Xud.06:01
amh345lotuspsychje: im not sure if that's the path i need.06:02
lotuspsychjeamh345:man unzip06:02
amh345but thanks.06:02
amh345i was thinking for along the lines of a process id or something.06:03
FlynsarmyMy ubuntu 12.10 is just sitting at the loading screen. is there a way I can tell what went wrong?06:03
Flynsarmyor turn off the splash screen so I can see errors during startup06:04
lotuspsychjef106:04
lotuspsychjeFlynsarmy:or modify grub for txt boot06:05
somsipsjihs_: what version of ubuntu are you running?06:06
lotuspsychjeFlynsarmy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92276/how-do-i-boot-into-true-text-mode06:06
soundsfromsoundHello all, is this message going through? I've had some issues with Pidgin tonight, just making sure it's all set now.  Thank you.06:07
somsip!test | soundsfromsound06:07
ubottusoundsfromsound: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )06:07
soundsfromsoundThank you!06:08
sjihs_somsip: 12.0406:09
somsipsjihs_: so why is the prompt for arch@arch-Thinkpad? It may be that you have an issue at the server, rather than with the client. I'd look at terminfo issues myself first. Installing ncurses-termcap (or somethign similar) helped me when I had urxvt/ssh issues06:12
sjihs_somsip: Ah ok. I just set the hostname to arch06:12
sjihs_somsip: My worksplace provides support for Ubuntu and RHEL. while i myself use Arch at my home desktop. Hence the hostname.06:13
somsipsjihs_: it was ncurses-term, but your problems could be server or client, so YMMV in installing this on the ubuntu end06:14
sjihs_somsip: This is on the local shell. I have not remote logged into any server06:15
sjihs_somsip: just checked, ncurses-term has already been installed06:15
somsipsjihs_: then i have nothing06:15
sjihs_somsip: ok. Thanks for your time though06:16
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peawormsworthi would like to close down the lightdm service under a terminal and then bring it backup for use after.06:33
confreyhi everybody06:33
peawormsworthI am trying "service lightdm stop" and later "service lightdm start"... but lightdm doesnt seem to come back.06:33
peawormsworthis there another option for this?06:33
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peawormsworthand also... is "telinit" an option?06:34
ashwin_livegrub is asking for password but i didnt set any. now i cant boot into any os .please help06:34
confreywhi can't I ever connect my asndroid phone without having errors? and I can't ever copy files to it without tyroubles06:34
peawormsworthashwin... I have an idea... but it is not simply. Ill wait for someone else to help u first.06:36
DanaGSay, I have a LUKS-encrypted laptop, on Ubuntu 12.10... and for some reason, the password prompt is invisible every time I boot.  I have to either type my password blind, or press escape twice, to get Plymouth to show it.06:37
dv-DanaG: i get the same... i just remove the graphical boot from grub in /boot/grub/grub.cfg06:40
killeri installed mate, now i m building a small app that needs to get the list of applications under different categories like accessories,games,graphics,internet,office,etc06:41
pasqualeeciao06:42
pasqualee!list06:42
ubottupasqualee: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».06:42
wilee-nileeashwin_live, At the grub menu on booting?06:43
ashwin_livewilee-nilee: yes06:43
we6jbohi06:43
DanaGoh yeah, and in my case, the same happens both with intel KMS and with vmwgfx KMS.06:43
we6jbotodays my birthday06:43
DanaG(I've set up VMWare Player in Windows to boot the native Ubuntu.)06:43
laurenrhappy birthday06:43
we6jboThanks!06:44
laurenrdid you get cake?06:44
we6jboNo06:44
wilee-nileeashwin_live, Do you have any encryption?06:44
laurenr:( well make one!06:44
we6jbook06:44
ashwin_livewilee-nilee: nope06:45
wilee-nileeashwin_live, Hmm, I have never seen that without setting a password for grub, so if you choose a grub entry any one you get a password prompt does it as for a users name as well?06:46
wilee-nileeask*06:47
ashwin_livewilee-nilee: yes06:47
wilee-nileeashwin_live, I assume you are familiar with Ubuntu, however are you sure it is not the login gui?06:47
killerlike in case of ubuntu-software center ,there are categories like accesories,office,System ...how can i get all installed apps under these categories using terminal06:48
ashwin_livewilee-nilee: nope, this problem started after i updated some packages06:49
wilee-nileeashwin_live, I just don't know to be honest, grub in general I am quite familiar with so I thought it pertinent to at the least ask a few questions, hopefully others will know.06:50
ashwin_livewilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642413/ i find this in /etc/grub.d/40_custom06:51
peawormsworthi am wondering if the grub password option is a solution to the full luks encryption issue... where the /boot partition cannot be encrypted.06:52
ashwin_livealso my grub.cfg is empty06:54
theadmin!recovergrub | ashwin_live06:55
ubottuashwin_live: Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub06:55
wilee-nileeashwin_live, the 40_custom is a user modified part of grub generally, I'm not familiar with any auto changing of it from apps if this is what happened.06:55
theadminashwin_live: The instructions here apply even if you haven't installed Windows, though.06:55
wilee-nileetheadmin, I wonder if a purge and reinstall of grub may be what is needed, what do you think?06:56
theadminwilee-nilee: If the system is bootable a simple "sudo update-grub" should suffice, though I've just joined and only got the part about grub.cfg being empty.06:57
theadminwilee-nilee: If it's a deeper issue then yeah, that might be a solution.06:57
hk_xghostHi all. Does anyone have a good idea regarding the state of bazaar development? I've read in a few different places that canonical has stopped development of bazaar, etc.06:58
ashwin_livetheadmin: the real problem is that i cant boot into any os because grub is asking for username and password06:58
theadminashwin_live: Uhh... grub never asks for a username that's for sure.06:59
hk_xghostTrue.06:59
theadminhk_xghost: Huh, no. Bazaar is still alive and well, all of the Ubuntu development takes place on Launchpad, which is a Bazaar host.06:59
ashwin_livethis happed after a update06:59
theadmin...Then again the last release WAS in 2012... I'm not sure anymore.06:59
peawormsworthif you set a password on grub, does it also verify the underlying kernel has not been changed? or is it just a superficial option to not make changing kernel options easy while booting from grub?07:00
hk_xghostI was asking about bazaar (which I know is in launchpad) because the beta2 was released about a year ago (July).07:01
theadminpeawormsworth: It's the second one. GRUB doesn't verify anything about kernels.07:01
theadminpeawormsworth: If you want true security, you want full disk encryption.07:01
peawormsworthtoo bad it doesnt do kernel hash checking or something. thanks tho.07:01
peawormsworthi am using full disk encryption, but my boot partition is not encrypted. Unless something has changed where full encryption is now "full"07:02
theadminhk_xghost: This is really strange, honestly... They planned to release 2.6 in August last year but that didn't happen. Let me dig around and see what I can find.07:02
hk_xghostYeah, that's the main reason for my bazaar question -_-07:02
hk_xghostOne article was saying that canonical had stopped development because it had "realized" that it could not "compete" with Hg & Git =/07:02
thrillERboyHi, I have two different partitions for ubuntu root folder and home directory, If I want to install ubuntu 13.04 when its released what should I do, just install it as previous time?07:02
hk_xghosttheadmin: thanks a lot =)07:03
hk_xghost(BTW, I'm currently using bzr in my own home server, but was wondering if continued use would eventually lead to a "dead end")07:03
theadminhk_xghost: Last commit to Bazaar's main branch on Launchpad is dated 2013-02-07, which is quite recent. I guess they're just slow with releases.07:03
peawormsworththeadmin: I was just musing over the possibility of doing a /boot content validation, to verify it has not changed while i was away.07:04
hk_xghostah07:04
hk_xghostThat's interesting info.07:04
wilee-nileeashwin_live, Here is a chroot link for using the live cd/usb to access ubuntu in root, it may as simple as updating grub from there and reloading it to the mbr, purging grub and reinstalling it, make sure when asked on a reinstall where grub is going it is the disc no partitions.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot07:04
wilee-nileeashwin_live, Or purging grub and reinstalling07:05
peawormsworththeadmin: that would be far easier then my current solution of keeping the /boot partition on a USB attached to my keychain.07:05
hk_xghost@theadmin: Thanks for the data. It seems they're just (painfully) slow with development & stable releases of the tool =(07:05
theadminhk_xghost: Bazaar is pretty awesome. I find it a lot easier than Git, SVN, Fossil or HG and even more functional, so "can't compete" is pretty ridiculous.07:05
confreyso, what's about problems connecting android phones to ubuntu? do anyone cna explain about?07:06
hk_xghost@theadmin: Probably. Those were the words the authors were using though, not mine :) I've been using bzr for my personal projects (6+ months) and it's been good to me so far.07:07
hk_xghostSetup was certainly easier than Subversion, in my experience.07:07
hk_xghostI have not used Git or Hg07:07
theadminconfrey: Some Android phones support mass storage mode. If yours does, just use that. If yours doesn't, the alternative is to install AirDroid and use USB tethering, wi-fi tethering or just a wi-fi network available to you.07:07
wilee-nileeconfrey, I suspect it has to do with the android version, my droid shows up fine in 12.0407:08
theadminhk_xghost: btw, IRC isn't twitter. The @ may prevent certain clients from highlighting nicknames. Mine works fine but not every single one does. So, just use the nickname. It also allows for tab completion on nicknames, e.g. "thea<Tab>" renders theadmin.07:09
confreytheadmin, thanks, it's what I'm already doing ... but I can't understand why we - ubuntu and linux user - must we suffer so much regarding a phone OS like Android... WIn users are laughing07:09
theadminconfrey: Blame Google for using that weirdo MTP thing... It's seriously strange considering Android is Linux-based :/07:10
theadminOh well, I say wait for Ubuntu Phone :P07:10
hk_xghosttheadmin: I use neither twiter nor facebook, but thanks for the hint. I'll keep it in mind ;)07:11
susiSay I want to extract all the files in /usr/share/doc for browsing, I know I can do a "find . -name *.gz" but can I pipe that into gunzip to extract all the files it finds?07:12
theadminsusi: find has an -exec flag.07:12
theadminsusi: Use that.07:12
susi(or rather, how can I, since I know it can be done)07:13
susitheadmin thanks, couldn't remember the call07:13
theadminsusi: e.g. find . -name '*.gz' -exec gunzip '{}' \;07:13
theadminsusi: An alternative in similar cases is to use xargs: find . -name '*.gz' | xargs gunzip07:14
susithat seemed to have caused an awful lot of "too many levels of symbolic links" but otherwise it extracted07:15
susiat least i can browse now, thank you07:16
ashwin_livehow can i check my version of ubuntu07:19
theadminashwin_live: lsb_release -sc07:21
peawormsworthwhat is the default runlevel? or wat is # in "telinit #" to return to normal mode?07:24
peawormsworthclue: # is something between 2 - 507:24
peawormsworthwell... based on wikipedia... im thinking it is 3?07:26
peawormsworthor 5?07:26
peawormsworthupddate: telinit 5 got lightdm login back... but no consoles seem avaiable with F1-F5.07:27
theadminpeawormsworth: Ubuntu doesn't have runlevels...07:29
peawormsworththeadmin: what is the alternative i should research? to get it into single user mode?07:30
theadminpeawormsworth: Single user? Append "single" to the kernel command-line.07:30
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renothinghi, anybody can help me ?07:31
renothinghttp://pastebin.com/ZCDYa7Ck07:31
ashwin_livei tried to purged grub but now i cant reinstall it07:31
ashwin_liveis it because my live cd is a different version of ubuntu07:31
peawormsworththeadmin: well ubuntu seems to recognize "telinit 1"... and F6 - lightdm turns off. And then "telinit 5" returns lightdm.07:33
ashwin_livehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5642464/07:33
peawormsworthupdate: "telinit 5" returns lightdm and all CTRL-ALT-Fx terminals... I was wrong before. its working now.07:33
theadminpeawormsworth: Well, I'll be more precise, Ubuntu does the following runlevels, 0, 6, 1, 207:34
theadminpeawormsworth: 2 - 5 are the same thing.07:34
peawormsworththeadmin: thx for the info. and also. doing telinit 1  and later telinit 2 is not a good idea. It changes the running system in a way I cannot yet determine.07:36
ashwin_livewhat will happen if i delete /boot folder ?07:51
theadminashwin_live: Nothing good07:51
ashwin_livewill i be albe to boot into windows07:52
ashwin_livetheadmin: ?07:52
Theteashwin_live: Why is your computer not resolving archive.ubuntu.com?07:52
theadminashwin_live: Well, no, because GRUB does that, too.07:53
Theteashwin_live: Add the address to your host file fix your apt issue and then try and figure out why your machine isn't resolving DNS07:53
ashwin_liveThete: ?? . my problem is grub is not working07:54
ashwin_livenow it is showing grub bash07:55
gin95does it show any errors?07:55
TheteI was looking at your paste07:55
gin95ah07:55
Thetejust format that thing and reinstall07:55
gin95yes07:55
codepython777I'm looking to run a ubuntu system with 10GB Hard drive space. I would prefer to install a very lean version of ubuntu on it. Any suggestions on how to do this? Should i just try the regular install , or perhaps there is a nice vm already that i could just use?07:55
Thetecodepython777: You could use the server version07:55
Thetecodepython777: It's pretty minimal07:55
codepython777Thete: how does that compare with : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD ?07:56
TheteInteresting, I haven't tried that one07:56
codepython777Thete: I guess it just downloads the packages, that doesnt help07:56
theadmincodepython777: The Minimal CD will let you choose what to download/install.07:56
gin95by the way, is there a way to change the installation directory for packages? becouse i have an 1.5TB but its not the one ubuntu is installed in07:57
TheteI usually just start with ubuntu server and add what I need after that07:57
theadmingin95: Most stuff that's installed goes to /usr. Symlink that to some other place and move stuff over.07:57
theadmingin95: Make sure they're on a same filesystem, e.g. ext4 -> ext4.07:57
gin95thanks i will try that07:58
theadmingin95: (you obviously need to do that from a LiveCD, you can't move /usr of a working system)07:58
codepython777theadmin: i was hoping someone would have already done a minimal selection for me -- http://crunchbang.org/about/ ?07:58
nailsonlinuxcodepython777, u can use ubuntu 10.04, install by alternative CD07:58
helmut_hi07:58
theadmincodepython777: Crunchbang isn't a supported distribution here. Besides, that's Debian-based, not Ubuntu...07:58
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theadminnailsonlinux: Don't recommend versions support for which will end in a month :/07:59
peawormsworthis it normal for sudo to retain password information between logins?07:59
codepython777theadmin: is there something like that available for ubuntu?07:59
theadmincodepython777: Well... Lubuntu is pretty minimalistic but it still eats a bunch of HD space sadly07:59
codepython777nailsonlinux: I'm just looking to only use 800MB max of space to run, prepackaged would be great, or else i can pick packaged07:59
peawormsworthi was thinking the above is a bad policy.07:59
nailsonlinuxtheadmin, thanks for the advice...07:59
theadminpeawormsworth: No, that's definetly not normal.07:59
peawormsworthok. i am using 13.04, so maybe i will report this there.08:00
codepython777theadmin: is lubuntu well supported? looks like its not that bad in size08:00
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theadmincodepython777: It's one of the official Ubuntu versions, so yes, it has the same level of support as Ubuntu.08:00
peawormsworththeadmin: it is occurring on my 12.04 TLS too.08:01
nailsonlinuxcodepython, i'm not a guru, but i would recomend something different, like archlinux or even LFS. but prepare your soul.08:01
peawormsworththeadmin: Specifically I am doing: CTRL-ALT-F1 and login as user. "sudo ls" and type password. Logout, login, "sudo ls" (no password required).08:01
theadminpeawormsworth: Yes, that's not supposed to happen :/08:03
peawormsworthah ok. I would think login out would flush the sudo permissions.08:03
AlexzAKHi, everybody! I have problems with video hardware on Ubuntu 12.10. I using it on Sony VAIO SVE1711V1RB laptop. It has AMD Radeon HD 7650M video driver. Both open source and proprietary (including beta version) drivers show artifacts. Please say me what to do! I wish provide any assistance with that issues08:04
peawormsworthI guess i will need to research how to flush sudo rights more carefully now.08:04
AlexzAKIs there are someone who can help with AMD video issues?08:04
theadminpeawormsworth: You can manually make sudo forget stuff by using "sudo -K"08:05
peawormsworthwill do thx08:05
nailsonlinux AlexzAK, have you tried the latest version of proprietary driver08:06
peawormsworthAlexzAK: I am not familiar with sony. but is that the laptop you have to shutoff and remove the power cord and press a special button to get into the BIOS??? Sony is crazy different IMO08:06
jatakkAnyone here know anything about i3 and/or conky?08:06
jatakkI'm using i3 with Conky to pipe info to i3bar, but it's not updating08:06
jatakki3bar only updates once on login or when it's restarted08:07
jatakkI can post my config and conkyrc files if anyone thinks they can help08:07
AlexzAKnailsonlinux: Yes, I tried latest drivers including beta version, issue is same. But everything ok in windows08:08
AlexzAKpeawormsworth: No, I can go in BIOS in a regular way08:08
peawormsworthAlexzAK: thats nice. I was testing new laptops using ubuntu live on usb... just to see how well they worked... and the sony model was the only one which required me to go home and read their user manual to figure out how to do this. Maybe it is just a "special" model i saw.08:09
nailsonlinuxAlexzAK, I've a AMD/ATI board on a desktop, and i had A LOT of issues like you. it was fixed on newer versions of AMD driver08:10
AlexzAKpeawormsworth: nailsonlinux: Do you know somebody how maintain thouse drivers?08:10
AlexzAKnailsonlinux: I hoped they will fix my issues, but three months passed by with no fix08:11
AlexzAKnailsonlinux: I think, that nobody knows about such issues. I filed bug report on proprietary driver with no feedback08:12
peawormsworthAlexzAK: I have no useful information for u. And I dont know any driver programmers. I just admire them from a distance.08:12
AlexzAKIs there are some "Ubuntu hardware" team? Or who is responsible for hardware support?08:13
adriano_.xchat2/budus.so08:15
nailsonlinuxAlexzAK, peawormsworth, as far as i know, AMD give less attencion for Linux drivers, and it gets worse. Sony always mock us and change the hardware specifications, so many chip maker drivers won't work08:15
nailsonlinuxAlexzAK, peawormsworth, i know it 'cause i had a Vaio some years ago... and ALWAYS i had to pray to make it just OK. even on Windows.08:17
AlexzAKBesides that I want Ubuntu working with my hardware, I want to help with that somehow08:18
ashwin_livehttp://opensource-sidh.blogspot.in/2011/06/recover-grub-live-ubuntu-cd-pendrive.html i tried the following steps but my boot menu have ony memtest . no windows or ubuntu08:19
AlexzAKIs there are some "Ubuntu hardware" team? Or who is responsible for hardware support?08:19
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killerhey08:20
CapprenticeIs there any one who is using Midori ?08:21
AlexzAKI will try to describe my problems to #ubuntu-kernel08:21
quarkeyHi there, I have a question reguarding sound quality and ubuntu with zenbook prime ux31a. How far off is the sound quality compared to windows 8?08:23
ashwin_livehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5642552/ can find ubuntu or windows images08:23
killeri want to get list of all softwares installed under category games(in software center) using the terminal08:25
ashwin_livewhich is the better way of fixing grub? reinstalling ubuntu?08:29
nailsonlinuxkiller, u can use apt-cache search *game*08:29
AlexzAKashwin_live: I fixed grub from livecd... google it, it was easy to me08:30
nailsonlinuxkiller, or something like this, choose you wildcards :)08:30
ashwin_liveAlexzAK: i tried but now grub cant find ubuntu and windows images08:30
Wiky108:31
killernailsonlinux: you don't get it ,all installed packages under the category games,or like internet(which should show firefox,pidgin ,etc)08:31
plusEV208:31
TheWeatherGuyHey Guys08:32
nailsonlinuxkiller, excuse me :( i don't have a answer for that08:33
Jordan_U!bootinfo | ashwin_live08:34
ubottuashwin_live: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).08:34
killer.join #crunchbang08:36
Shashanki installed ubuntu 12.10 yesterday. it was working well but the screen brightness was not changing. i found out that it is a bug in ubuntu. so i searched on net and changed the xorg.conf file. now i am not able to start ubuntu, it is showing a grey coloured screen and nothing is happening . please help08:37
ashwin_livehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5642575/08:38
ashwin_liveJordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642575/08:38
qinShashank: did you make back up of xconf?08:38
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nailsonlinuxShashank: try to use a backup file, usually xorg.conf~08:38
Shashankno, earlier xorg.conf file didn't existed on my system i created the file from command line.08:39
nailsonlinuxShashank: did you tried to remove it?08:40
qinShashank: Did you try to boot into text mode?08:40
qinups, sorry08:40
ashwin_liveAlexzAK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642575/08:40
Shashanki don't know how to boot into text mode08:40
qinShashank: press shift to get to grub, press e to edit, add text in kernel line08:41
qini think you want to remove "splash" option too08:42
Shashankdo i have to add text in the starting of the code08:42
qinShashank: rather replace "splash" with "text"08:43
Shashankdone,, now f10 for rebooting?08:43
qinShashank: ctrl-d08:44
Shashankctrl d not working. and the page is showing ctrl x or f10 to reboot08:45
qinright, ctrl-x08:45
ashwin_livehow can i remove grub and directly boot into windows?08:45
Jordan_Uashwin_live: Something is massively wrong. It looks like when that grub.cfg was generated you didn't have most of the files in /etc/grub.d/. On top of that it's very odd that you have an ext2 filesystem at all, and a separate ext4 partition which seems to have no OS on it. Do you know how you ended up with souch an odd, non-standard, generally broken configuration?08:45
ashwin_liveext4 partition is my /home08:46
ashwin_liveJordan_U: ext2 have ubuntu in it08:47
Jordan_Uashwin_live: Why is your root partition ext2? Any idea where the other files in /etc/grub.d/ went?08:47
Theteashwin_live: to boot back into windows you'd have to boot from a windows CD and restore the MBR08:47
Shashanknothing happening. a black screen has appeared08:48
Jordan_Uashwin_live: From an Ubuntu liveCD run *exactly* these commands: sudo software-properties-gkt -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mbr && sudo install-mbr /dev/sda08:48
ashwin_liveJordan_U: for what08:49
Jordan_Uashwin_live: That is, to install an MS style MBR that will just boot Windows (assuming Windows is installed properly).08:49
Theteoh cool08:49
TheteI didn't know you could do that08:49
Thetethanks you08:50
Shashankqin: it is not booting, a black screen has appeared08:50
qinShashank: probably, using live system to edit is fastest way.08:52
Shashankyou mean using a bootable usb or cd?08:54
qinuhm08:54
Shashankbut i don't have one right now. i updated my system from ubuntu 11 to ubuntu 12.10 using update manager. directly from internet08:55
qinShashank: Did you try to boot into recovery and.or older kernels?08:56
Shashanknope.08:56
Shashanki have to do that from advanced options for ubuntu?08:57
qinShashank: from grub, recovery mode have option to reconfigure xorg08:58
histoShashank: How did you manage to ugprade from 11 to 12.10?08:59
Shashanki have booted in .linux 3.2.0-39 generic (recovery mode )08:59
histoShashank: okay remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file you created08:59
histoShashank: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && reboot09:00
Shashankthere is a screen showing different options resume, clean,failsafex..09:00
Shashankwhich one to enter09:00
histoShashank: can you post a picture of the screen to imagebin09:01
qinShashank: failsaveX, to see if it will work..09:01
Shashankit has again entered the same grey screen from the failsafex09:02
chunkyheadmy teamviewer is not detecting my mic in ubuntu, please help!09:04
Shashankif the file is causing problem, can we open that xorg.conf file from windows and then edit it, i have windows 7 installed and it is working fine09:04
Shashankqin: if the file is causing problem, can we open that xorg.conf file from windows and then edit it, i have windows 7 installed and it is working fine09:08
histochunkyhead: you would probably have to contact teamviewer support09:09
Shashanksome software can show ubuntu installation files in windows09:09
histo!sound | chunkyhead09:09
ubottuchunkyhead: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.09:09
chunkyheadhisto, sound's working just fine. i wanted to know is teamviewer ported from windows to linux? because then the audio problem is understandable09:10
histoShashank: hold shift during boot to get to the grub boot menu and boot in recovery mode.09:10
histoShashank: then move the xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak and reboot the machine.09:10
Shashankrecovery mode under advanced options for ubuntu?09:12
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Shashankhisto:recovery mode under advanced options for ubuntu?09:14
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histoShashank: yes09:15
histoShashank: or you can boot to the install cd and fix from there.09:15
Shashanki have entered recovery mode. there is a screen showing  some options resume, clean,dpkg,failsafex fsck, grub, network, root, system summary09:17
Shashankwhich option should i chose?09:17
Shashankhisto:i have entered recovery mode. there is a screen showing  some options resume, clean,dpkg,failsafex fsck, grub, network, root, system summary09:20
lee__hehe09:21
histoShashank: root09:23
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Shashankdone, it is prompting my username as it is in the terminal09:24
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lee_tiger能用中文吗?09:25
Shashanknow which command to edit the xorg.conf file09:25
ikoniaShashank: it's just a text file, any text editor you are happy with09:26
quarkeyhow much diff is there on sound quality on a live cd and actuall installed ubuntu?09:26
ikoniaquarkey: should be none assuming you have enough ram to run a livecd and buffer audio09:26
quarkey:(09:26
histo[C after you login09:26
lee_tiger想请请教个问题,在状态栏不显示输入法图标09:26
ikonia!cn | lee_tiger09:26
ubottulee_tiger: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw09:26
histoShashank: After you login sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak09:27
histoShashank: then you should be able to reboot09:27
lee_tiger/join #ubuntu -cn09:27
ikonialee_tiger:  /join #ubuntu-cn09:27
lee_tiger在哪进入中文的?09:28
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ikonialee_tiger: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw09:29
Shashankmv cannot move: read only file09:29
quarkeyikonia, do you know if it's possible to get better quality with some drivers etc? I got Zenbook Prime ux31a.09:29
histoShashank: sudo mount -o remount,rw /09:30
histoShashank: then try the mv command09:30
ikoniaquarkey: depends on your sound card, it's support in linux and your listening device (and of course the audio source)09:30
lee_tiger/join #ubuntu  -cn09:31
ikonialee_tiger: /join #ubuntu-cn09:31
lee_tiger??09:31
chunkyheadhow to lock a folder which is in my home?09:31
ikoniachunkyhead: change the permissions so only your user can read it09:32
Shashankhisto: the command executed w/o any error, should i forcefully turn it off and then reboot?09:32
quarkeyikonia, the difference between w8 and 12.10 is rather big, 60-70% better with windows.09:32
histoShashank: which command?09:32
chunkyheadno no, that way if anyone else is in my acc, they can also see. i want it to ask for a password. isn't there something like that inbuilt in linux?09:32
Shashankmv09:32
the_benderi agree there @quarkey09:33
ikoniaquarkey: please re-read what I said is the limiting factors09:33
histoShashank: if it executed fine after the mount command I gave you then sudo reboot09:33
chunkyheadikonia,  no no, that way if anyone else is in my acc, they can also see. i want it to ask for a password. isn't there something like that inbuilt in linux?09:33
ikoniachunkyhead: you don't give someone your account, that's the point of user accounts09:33
Shashankwhat does sudo means. it is there in many ubuntu commands?09:34
histo!sudo | Shashank09:34
ubottuShashank: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo09:34
chunkyheadikonia, is there a way by which people would have to enter a password to get access to a folder other than the one you stated? it's a home pc09:34
ikoniachunkyhead: you give people different accounts, there is encyption but that is over the top for home users09:35
histoShashank: we give people comand line commands in here because it's easier to explain than click here then there etc..09:35
ikoniachunkyhead: the point is to give each user a different account09:35
chunkyheadikonia, just answer what i am saying. i just want that folder to be locked that's it -_-09:35
Shashankhisto: thanks a lot. :) it rebooted successfully09:35
histochunkyhead: it's a multiuser system. Each user should have an account09:35
ikoniachunkyhead: just do what I say09:35
chunkyheadhisto, come on guys -_-09:35
ikoniachunkyhead: why don't you tell us the truth09:36
reddotlol09:36
chunkyheadikonia, tell you what truth?09:36
histoShashank: Now for your brightness issue.... Have you tried adding the backlight options to the kernel in grub09:36
ikoniachunkyhead: well, why you can't use the user permissions properly09:36
ikoniachunkyhead: why you are ignoring the advice and just repeating the same question09:36
Shashankhow to add kernel?09:36
ikoniaShashank: why are you trying to add a kernel ?09:37
chunkyheadikonia, i know how to use permissions lol. i just want the a window to pop up when i try to access the folder09:37
ikoniaShashank: what's wrong with the one you've got09:37
ikoniachunkyhead: why ?09:37
ikoniachunkyhead: the file system permissions should manage that09:37
chunkyheadikonia, how to implement?09:37
ikoniachunkyhead: set the file system permissions so only your user can read them09:37
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Shashankikonia: i don't know much about using ubuntu,histo told me to add backlight option to kernel so i asked how to do that09:38
chunkyheadikonia, oh my god -_- you dont know any other way so please tell me i will stop wasting my time here09:38
ikoniachunkyhead: why don't you tell me the truth09:38
histoShashank: What laptop do you have?09:38
ikoniachunkyhead: why you want this "pop up password" rather than using the file system permissions as they are meant to be used09:38
Shashankdell xps09:38
chunkyheadikonia, chmod <permissions> filename09:39
ikoniachunkyhead: I know how to use chmod09:39
chunkyheadikonia, even i know how to use09:39
histoShashank: have you seen a bug filed for it's brightness issues yet?09:39
chunkyheadikonia, do u know any other way is what i am asking09:39
chunkyheadchunkyhead, the way i want it09:39
chunkyheadikonia, the way i want it09:39
ikoniachunkyhead: yes, which is why I keep asking you why you want to do this instead of using the file system permissions09:39
Myrtti!xy09:40
ubottuThe XY problem is when you need to do X, and you think you can use Y to do X, so you ask about how to do Y, when what you really should do is state what your X problem is. There may be a Z solution that is even better than Y, but nobody can suggest it if X is never mentioned.09:40
chunkyheadikonia, IT IS A HOME PC -_-09:40
ikoniachunkyhead: yes, that doesn't change anything09:40
chunkyheadi have only 1 acc ikonia i cant add more low on space09:40
chunkyheadikonia, ^09:40
Shashankyes09:40
ikoniachunkyhead: you can use multiple users09:40
ikoniachunkyhead: using multiple users and 1 user will not change the disk space significantly09:40
chunkyheadthat'd be adding another acc ikonia09:40
ikoniachunkyhead: correct,09:40
histoShashank: let me look somethign up real quick09:40
Shashankok09:41
chunkyheadikonia, do u even understand what i am saying lol09:41
ikoniachunkyhead: very much09:41
chunkyheadikonia, did you understand my question?09:41
ikoniachunkyhead: yes,09:41
chunkyheadikonia, do you have another answer to it apart from permissions?09:42
mohsen_lubuntu has problem with Cairo-dock ....does anyone have such experience?09:42
ikoniachunkyhead: I'm going to back away from this problem, as I don't believe you are being honest09:42
chunkyheadikonia, honest in what context?09:42
ikoniachunkyhead: well, the file system permissions are the correct way to do this, and the fact that you are low on space does not mean you can't use multiple users, as the home directories are only a few k09:43
ikoniachunkyhead: so I can only assume you have some other reason which you refuse to share, so I can't advise you09:43
mohsen_lubuntu has problem with Cairo-dock ....does anyone have such experience?09:43
mohsen_no any help?09:44
chunkyheadikonia, other people in my family use it for tp stuff like 5min use and then off. that to once a week or something, so i dont want to create another acc. that's it.09:44
ikoniachunkyhead: I'll back away09:44
chunkyheadikonia, you could have done that before thanks anyways09:44
ikoniachunkyhead: understood09:44
NarelHi09:44
mohsen_?09:45
mohsen_please help me09:45
mohsen_?09:45
NarelI've a problem of slow speed in LAN mode with my RALINK  RT539009:45
histoShashank: Is it an xps 13?09:45
ikoniamohsen_: you need to provide information beyond "has a problem"09:45
Nareljust 1,5 m/s09:45
Nareland I'm near of my AP09:45
Shashankno xps L501x09:46
Narelwith another laptop and atheros chip 5,5M09:46
NarelI think there is problem with rt2800pci driver09:46
Narelbut I don't know how to solve it09:46
chunkyheadoh anyone knows how to get the list of all the manually installed packages till date?09:47
dr_willisim not sure the system realli differantes beteen manually and 'automatically' installed09:47
histoShashank: the only thing you should need in your xorg.conf is Section "Screen"09:47
histo Identifier "Default Screen"09:47
histo Option "RegistryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1"09:47
histoEndSection09:47
histoShashank: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642680/09:47
FloodBot1histo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:47
histoSorry for the paste in channel stupid client09:47
dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/73180/how-to-see-packages-installed-on-a-given-date-using-aptitude   chunkyhead    may help09:48
Shashankcan you please tell me where to find this xorg file or command to open it from terminal09:49
chunkyheaddr_willis, thanks09:49
histochunkyhead: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89238109:49
histoShashank: I thought you rebooted and X is now working09:50
histoShashank: you could sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to edit the xorg.conf from cli09:50
chunkyheadhisto, yeah that zip method i know. wasn't quite what i was looking for. i should be able to update that folder regularly. in this case i've to periodically zip and update09:51
chunkyheadhisto, my bad didnt read down09:51
surioI set up conky to startup on system login, but conkey disappears short while later09:51
surios/conkey/conky/09:51
surioIf I run it on commandline by myself, it persists :?09:52
surio:/09:52
surio:-/09:52
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surioI do not provide additional command while calling it on terminal09:53
surioanyone has come idea on this conky behaviour?09:53
chunkyheadsurio, go to startup09:53
chunkyheadsurio, programs, there select conky and in the command type conky -p 1009:54
suriostartup applications on the top panel?09:54
dr_willissurio:  make the conky script wait for about 20 seconds befor it starts conky09:54
chunkyheadsurio, open dash type startup first thing that comes up09:54
chunkyheaddr_willis, 20's too much probably some process is killing it09:55
surioI have edited it now09:55
surioconky -p 10 Good09:55
chunkyheadsurio, log off and logon as soon as you do open terminal and type top09:55
Myrttichunkyhead: luks or truecrypt might do What you want, if you wait 15min Ill get to my keyboard09:55
surioOK, anf?09:55
chunkyheadsurio, it'll show you processes conky must be in the top 5.09:55
surioand?09:55
chunkyheadMyrtti, alright :)09:55
surioWill do and let the chat room know09:56
chunkyheadsure09:56
chunkyheadsure surio09:56
surioCiao09:56
Slartare there any alternatives to unity3d for ubuntu 12.10? or should I hope they did some new magic in 13.04 to improve performance for things like moving windows without lag09:56
chunkyheadSlart, there's no alternative to unity3D unless you can install unity2D somehow. if you're not so impressed by unity you can install gnome ( i dont like it but it's aimed at simplicity ) or the new kde (windows like desktop whose latest version is EPIC)09:57
Soul_SampleSlart: unity alternatives? no. but there are a lot of other desktop environments and/or window managers09:57
Soul_Samplewhat chunkyhead said09:58
chunkyheadSoul_Sample, :)09:58
surioWeird09:58
surioTop shows conky09:58
chunkyheadsurio, what09:58
surioAnd conky camu up when I logged in09:58
Slartchunkyhead: unity2d seems to be a no go, starting from 12.10 but I run the new gnome on  my laptop.. guess that might be an alternative. Thanks09:58
SlartSoul_Sample: thanks09:59
surioand I clicked on my desktop09:59
surioconky disappeared off screen09:59
surioconky still comes on top09:59
suriobut not on screen :/ Does it make sense?09:59
chunkyheadSlart, gnome has a lot of compatibility issues. so i prefer kde. old gnome was better i felt10:00
chunkyheadsurio, do one thing10:00
Soul_Samplesurio: i think you need to play with the window_type setting in .conkyrc10:00
surioall eyes/ears10:00
Soul_Samplesurio: maybe it's called differently, but it's the one that has settings such as: desktop, override....10:00
dr_willissurio:  conky may be starting. then nautilus or whatever is starting afterwarsa and conky is going underneeth. thats the reason for the  delay in the script running also.10:00
chunkyheadsurio, open another terminal type pkill conky and then check top, type conky again and then check if that it again dissappears10:00
dr_willissurio:  this only happens at the initial login? or every time you start conky?10:01
Slartchunkyhead: oh.. haven't seen any of that yet.. anything major? or just things that need to be updated by the packagers?10:01
chunkyheaddr_willis, hence i suggest him that10:01
surioOK, let me try chunkyhead's suggestion first10:01
chunkyheadgnome needs to fixed lol devs needed for gnome haha10:02
chunkyheaddr_willis, i think it's going underneath because conky still running in the background10:02
dr_willisI think its more of the old skool way conky does things.10:02
dr_willischunkyhead:  yep. and the conky faq definatly state a need for a 'sleep 30' line in the startup scripts10:03
dr_willisMy Fave conky setup for now -> http://helmuthdu.deviantart.com/art/CONKY-COLORS-24479318010:03
suriochunkyhead: yu. When I start conky& and click on desktop it disappears10:03
chunkyheaddr_willis, woah! 30? haha mine works with 5. :) i'm glad10:03
chunkyheadsurio, you're using unity?10:03
dr_willischunkyhead:  not like it really matters10:04
chunkyheaddr_willis, it takes time to appear. that's it.10:04
surioconky disappears from the screen after I click on desktop, even when I start from commandline10:04
dr_willischunkyhead:  i got other things starting up getting done durnt the delay10:04
chunkyheaddr_willis, i'm a little OCD when it comes to startup stuff so.10:05
Soul_Samplesurio: can you open your .conkyrc and check what own_window_type: says?10:05
dr_willisget over it? ;)10:05
dr_willissurio:  try some other conky configs. perhaps one will work.. and it will then show its a conky config issue10:05
surioSoul_Sample: You read my mind. I was reading your commants and looking at it: ;)10:05
surioown_window_type desktop10:05
chunkyheaddr_willis, can't.. not unless i get a chrome book. i was thinking of gettng one and looked at the processor, i thought i was in the 90s again10:06
Soul_Samplesurio: try replacing desktop with override10:06
dr_willissurio:  those conky-colors examples  work well for me on unity10:06
chunkyheadoh btw if you're interested i can send you my conky surio10:06
Soul_Samplesurio: also, if that doesn't work, you can try "normal". but override usually worked for me10:06
dr_willisi rarely even use conky any more.. just more clutter on the desktop with info i rarely need10:07
Soul_Sampledr_willis: conky is a phase everybody needs to experience! :D10:07
chunkyheadSoul_Sample, hahaah well said10:07
chunkyheadSoul_Sample, right pointed out, it needs to over ride10:07
patr|ckhow can i check whether my ubuntu setup uses the nvidia driver?10:08
chunkyheadlspci if i am not wrong patr|ck10:08
dr_willispatr|ck:  run the nvidia-settings tool10:08
chunkyheaddr_willis, won't lspci list it?10:08
suriochunkyhead: Sure, I would like to learn from others :) if you are willing to share :)10:08
dr_willislspci will list the card.. but not if the driver is USED10:09
dr_willisisent that what he asked?10:09
patr|ckyes10:09
surioAll: Let me try Soul_Sample's suggestion10:09
chunkyheaddr_willis, oh yes. :)10:09
dr_willisor does he mean does it HAVE a nvidia card? :) lspci would answer that10:09
surioof adding override first.10:09
Slartpatr|ck: you can try running this, as well..     glxinfo | grep -i nvidia10:09
stormelclspci | grep VGA10:10
chunkyheadbtw guys what does the grep do?10:10
patr|ckit says "you do not appear to be using the driver"10:10
patr|ckoh no10:10
patr|ckthat explains a lot now10:10
Slartchunkyhead: searches a file or stream for a regular expression10:10
chunkyheadSlart, can't we just write eg a*10:11
Slartchunkyhead: so     ls | grep something    will search the output from "ls" and only print the lines containing the word "something"10:11
Slartchunkyhead: for ls that works.. grep is useful for so much more10:11
patr|ckhow can i install the nvidia driver so its used by all kernels?10:11
stormelchow does the battery life in ubuntu compare to win7?10:12
stormelcI have read there were kernel regressions affecting battery life. Is that true?10:12
Slartstormelc: for normal cases I would say it's a little bit better in windows 7, mostly because the computer makers support windows 7 a bit better10:12
chunkyheadstormelc, depends from machine to machine. my friend gets just 20mins on battery on ubuntu 12.04 on windows he gets >1hr. i on the other hand ger more on ubuntu 12.0410:13
Foragegood morning10:13
Slartstormelc: but if you put some effort into it you could get a much leaner system with linux.. but that will take some work and effort10:13
surioNo discussion on grep is complete without this chestnut:10:13
surioSome people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions."  Now they have two problems.10:13
Foragemy system fails to start after resetting it because it hang10:14
chunkyheadsurio, was your problem solved by override?10:14
surioI have to log off first... but before that I had to dig up that quote before the discussion lost steam ;)10:15
surioSo, brb10:15
stormelcS1art - I run awesome wm on an old laptop. Does running a lightweight wm actually affect battery life a lot?10:15
Forageit starts untill plymouthd, showing the background image with the vertical blue bars10:15
Forageit never reaches the login screen10:16
Forageno errors are given10:16
Slartstormelc: you tell me, you're the one running it =) my guess would be that it does10:16
lee__#ubuntu -cn10:16
chunkyheadstormelc, what's wm?10:16
Slartstormelc: but there might be other things affecting battery time as well.. the wm is just one thing10:16
stormelcI have no idea, I never ran anything on it except for awesome10:16
stormelcI have noticed laptop-mode-tools actually shortens the life10:17
chunkyheadhas anyone tried sudo apt-get install sl ? :P10:17
Slartstormelc: oh.. that's kind of odd.. or is laptop-mode getting outdated?10:17
ForageI tried recovery mode, running fsck and failsavex, but when using those two options it will stop working after the read/write mounting of the first driver (/dev/sdb5 xxx/xxx files xxx/xxx blocks)10:18
ForageI can access root, and run fsck from there10:18
Foragebut it comes back with nothing10:19
chunkyheadanyone know where are the tray icons stored? and how to replace them from custom icons if they are in binaries?10:19
stormelcmight be :P Ugh. I wish there was good support for optimus10:19
ForageI disabled all not needed mounts in crytab and fstab in case it fails to mount one if those, but still no go10:20
stormelcBattery life for the optimus laptop in Win7 is like 9 hours. 6 hours in precise with bumblebee :(10:20
surioThanks Soul_Sample10:20
surioIt works10:21
Soul_Samplesurio: ^^10:21
Narelstormelc, you can use wine with bumblebee ?10:21
suriochunkyhead what does your conkyrc look like?10:21
Foragewhat can be the cause and what can I do to fix it?10:22
surioAlso, do you think the conky p 10 is still needed?10:22
stormelcNarel - I haven't tried o.o10:22
stormelcNarel - I don't see why not though10:22
surioOh, I lost the ealrier deviantart like you posted? Where is that again?10:22
surio!logs10:22
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.10:22
k1lstormelc: complains to nvidia that they dont support optimus on linux :/10:22
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Forageno one got an idea?10:25
ikoniaForage: remove the splash10:25
k1l!away > surio|afk10:26
ubottusurio|afk, please see my private message10:26
Forageikonia: that's a grub settings, no?10:26
ikoniaForage: correct10:26
makotogreetings. is it possible to reomve the search integration and cloud rubbish from ubuntu?10:26
jrtappersmakoto, Which cloud parts? The dash? Ubuntu One?10:27
Slartmakoto: aren't those "features" regular packages? might want to search for "unity" with  apt-cache search10:27
ikonia!adlens | makoto10:27
ubottumakoto: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ10:27
Forageikonia: I doubt that that will change anything, it has always worked, but I'll give it a go to see if I get at least an error to work with10:27
makotoi haven't installed ubuntu yet, just wanted to know how deeply rooted those "features" were10:28
jrtappersmakoto, http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash10:28
ikoniaForage: I don't think it will fix it, but it will remove the splash so you can see why it's hanging10:28
jrtappersmakoto, First answer shows a switch to disable online search results10:28
makotowould that stop all traffic to/from the internet when using the search?10:28
jrtappersmakoto, Should do10:28
ikoniamakoto: yes10:29
makotoawesome. thanks.10:29
Forageikonia: GRUB_TERMINAL=console?10:29
ikoniaForage: no, the splash option10:29
makotoi'll be back later after installing10:29
jrtappersmakoto, Dualboot?10:29
ars23hi... does anybody know a good program for simulating electronic schemes? a program like pspice, for example!10:29
Slartars23: I think there are a few in the repositories.. don't remember names though10:30
jrtappersars23, For simulation of electronics Yenka is good, if you only use it at home its free10:30
makotojrtappers: yep. i had mint on my thinkpad but i had to rma it and put windows back on :(10:30
Slart!info ngspice | ars2310:31
ubottuars23: ngspice (source: ngspice): Spice circuit simulator. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 24-1 (quantal), package size 2479 kB, installed size 6791 kB10:31
ars23thanks jrtappers10:31
jrtappersmakoto, Make sure to set swappiness down after install10:31
jrtappersars23, thats ok10:31
makotojrtappers: it's turned up by default?10:31
jrtappersmakoto, It defaults to 6010:32
mcalexeyhi, is there some interesting commands to attract loggined in system user attention? something like "write user", "eject /dev/dvd1"10:32
k1lmakoto: in 13.04 there will be extended settings to how and what will search where. and an easy off switch10:32
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jrtappersmcalexey, Terminal or gui?10:32
makotok1l: is it worth holding out for the release?10:32
ars23ubottu i tried ngspice without gui and you know, i'm new to electronics and i must create and test some circuits... so i need a simple program...10:33
ubottuars23: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:33
mcalexeyjrtappers, anything10:33
suriochunkyhead: Are you there?10:33
jrtappersmcalexey, See my previous message, it the logged in user attermianl or gui10:33
surioSoul_Sample: Is it necessary for the p 10 option in conky?10:34
Slart!info gspiceui | ars2310:34
ubottuars23: gspiceui (source: gspiceui): Graphical user interface for gnucap and ngspice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.00+dfsg-1 (quantal), package size 656 kB, installed size 1498 kB10:34
jrtappersmcalexey, You can eject drives, play music, all sorts, popups in GUI, Message in termal10:34
Slartars23: ubottu is just a bot..he/she/it just prints out information about the packages so I don't have to cut and paste10:34
Slartars23: from what I remember pspice isn't very.. user friendly in the beginning.. you might want to look at some other stuff as well10:35
mcalexeyjrtappers, and how to do gui popup?10:35
jrtappersmcalexey, You would use alert10:36
ars23yeah... but i don't know some other programs... i tried geda but i found that it's only for creating/editing a scheme...10:36
surioSoul_Sample: there?10:36
k1lmakoto: i think the 13,04 is an advantage to 12.1010:36
Soul_Samplesurio: not sure, what is it for?10:36
surioLet me copy from the log.....10:37
surio<chunkyhead> surio, programs, there select conky and in the command type conky -p 1010:37
jrtappersmcalexey, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124082810:37
mcalexeyjrtappers, ?10:37
surio<dr_willis> surio:  make the conky script wait for about 20 seconds befor it starts conky10:37
ars23and  gspiceui... or am I stupid and don't know to use it or i can't find the results in a graphic way10:37
surio<chunkyhead> dr_willis, 20's too much probably some process is killing it10:37
mcalexeyjrtappers, ok, thanks!10:37
rKillerwhere am I??10:37
suriorKiller: in a galaxy far far way ;)10:38
jrtappersmcalexey, Thats ok, and they resolve the problem on that forum page10:38
surioSoul_Sample: I assumed that p 10 option was for delayed start?10:39
Soul_Samplesurio: could be, makes sense10:40
surioLeave it in?10:40
Slartars23: I can't really help you with ngspice or gspiceui.. it's been over 20 years since I messed with this stuff10:41
aweroihello folks, I'm getting no response from ubuntustudio, so let me ask this here: if I install 13.04Beta 1, do I have to install 13.04 again when it's out or can I do a simple upgrade with the updater?10:43
Sonikkaweroi: you dont have to install it again. if you are in 12.10 then just use update-manager -d to upgrade10:43
k1laweroi: no new install needed. but questions to unstable versions suit better into #ubuntu+1 :)10:44
aweroiok thanks10:44
Forageikonia: http://s7.postimg.org/t06ya15ff/IMAG0128.jpg10:48
ars23that's ok Slart10:48
Forageikonia: this is all it gives me10:48
Forageall [ok] behind the lines10:48
nubbinshello10:52
cfhowlettnubbins, greetings10:52
nubbinsgotta a couple questions, kinda got myself stuck installing linux10:53
cfhowlettnubbins, provide details and ask ...10:53
swrhhi. are there any developers around?10:53
k1l!ask | swrh10:54
ubottuswrh: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:54
cfhowlettswrh, maybe on #ubuntu-devel ???10:54
swrhkil, I wasn't gonna do that, but.. anyway10:56
swrhcfhowlett, thanks10:56
BluesKajHowdy all10:56
nubbinsok so long story short, I used unetbootin to run a live environment off of my c:\ (main partition with my windows 7 OS), I did this to install BT5r3 to my d:\ (a separate physical hdd). It installed however when I go to boot up d:\ it blank screen's with the blinking underscore top left. I can't boot back into windows but thats not too much of an issue. Anyway all I can get to boot up is the live environment off my c:\. Now the issu10:57
nubbins"ubiquity" wont run so I am unable to attempt an re-install to get linux running.10:58
Myrttinubbins: first of all a technical note, IRC has a character limit to a message, you got cut off10:58
nubbinsyeah i saw that10:58
Myrttiat "Now the iss"10:58
Myrttinubbins: secondly, this is #ubuntu, not the support channel for Backtrack10:58
nubbinssorry I was unable to access their forums or any of their webpages for some reason until recently so I tried here first10:59
Myrtti!backtrack | nubbins10:59
ubottunubbins: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)10:59
nubbinsok thank you anyway11:00
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gr8"hud-service" and "unity-panel-service" are eating up all my resources. what to do against that?11:14
ntzrmtthihu777now I'm not asking an opinion, I just need to know what I tell ubottu or best-bot to get alternatives to a software.11:15
ikoniantzrmtthihu777: the topic in #ubuntu-bestbot11:15
stupidBYdefaulthello.. can someone please give me instructions of -  how to acomplished 2 listen to the sound of mic at the same time of listening audio output11:15
ikoniantzrmtthihu777: oops, wrong channel11:16
ntzrmtthihu777ikonia: wrong channel to talk to me in or wrong channel given?11:16
ikoniantzrmtthihu777: #ubuntu-bots,11:16
ntzrmtthihu777groovy11:16
stupidBYdefaulthello.. can someone please give me instructions of -  how to acomplished 2 listen to the sound of mic at the same time of listening audio output? - example: listen 2 what is recording..11:17
cronusstupidBYdefault, try pactl load-module module-loopback.11:18
stupidBYdefaultcronus, thank u11:18
stupidBYdefaultwhat do i need to do?11:18
cronusstupidBYdefault, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules has info on the options of the module11:19
stupidBYdefaultcronus, thank u11:19
cronusstupidBYdefault, just run the command and make sure your mic is not muted. this should just work11:20
stupidBYdefaultcronus, can u give ne a detailed help? i dont know myself on ubuntu at all11:20
stupidBYdefaultso. i guess i need to open terminal.. right?11:21
cronusstupidBYdefault, start a terminal using alt+ctl+t11:21
stupidBYdefaultdid11:21
stupidBYdefaultready11:21
cronusstupidBYdefault, and copy+paste the command pactl load-module module-loopback11:22
stupidBYdefaultcronus, ready11:22
cronusstupidBYdefault, then press enter11:22
stupidBYdefaultcronus! Congratz!11:23
stupidBYdefaultThank u very much!11:24
cronusstupidBYdefault, np11:24
stupidBYdefaultcronus?11:28
cronusstupidBYdefault, yes?11:28
ForageGDM fails to start after a system crash. The system hangs at the splash screen with no error given. When disabling the splash, all things are started fine but GDM lists with a [failed]11:29
ForageI tried reinstalling gdm, to no avail11:29
MyrttiForage: which version of Ubuntu?11:30
Forage12.10 gnome remix11:30
Myrttiright, don't know anything about gnome remix.11:30
ForageI did install all gnome3 ppa packages11:31
ForageIt all worked fine untill the crash11:31
Forageis there any way to find out why gdm fails to start?11:32
stupidBYdefault1Q.. Does linux - ubuntu 12.04 lts, save some data of donwload/install to some folder and could be "stolen"? like... for example.. i have a very bad connection, and every computer i fix, i install linux.. now.. do to a slow connection, i takes 3 days to download/install software.. -> is it possible to - when once donwloaded (copy-paste) to some folder, and lather paste it to another computer? and than just let the updates runni11:33
stupidBYdefaultng?11:33
pppZerostupidBYdefault,  ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/11:33
stupidBYdefaulti know.. copy - paste this to terminal.. :)11:34
stupidBYdefaultwow11:34
stupidBYdefaultwhat i see now?11:34
pppZerothat's the packages your computer has downloaded in the past, waiting to be copied to another machine to save you some download time11:35
stupidBYdefaultooo, nice... ok.. am.. where can i found those files on HD?11:35
pppZeroin /var/cache/apt/archives/  ;)11:36
stupidBYdefault:) thank u pppZero  :)11:36
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brightnessi cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons.11:47
brightnessplease help11:48
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man_Hi, when I start Chrome through a keyboard combination, the window does not get focus11:48
man_What can I do about that? If I start it from the unity launcher, it works11:48
man_I want to be able to launch a browser with key combination and then enter the url11:48
brightness i cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons. please help11:50
brightness i cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons. please help11:52
ddsscanyone knows how to jail proftpd users to their home dir? as in that they're not allowed to view anything else besides their home dir?11:52
ikoniaddssc: there is a setting in the config file11:54
jrtappersIf I install ubuntu as a dual-boot, can I still use FDE, only on the ubuntu side?11:54
ikoniaddssc: basically tell it to use real users, and activate the chroot option11:54
ikoniajrtappers: FDE ?11:54
brightness i cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons.please help11:54
jrtappersikonia, Full Disk Encryption11:54
ikoniajrtappers: that has nothing to do with dual boot11:54
ikoniajrtappers: the point of dual boot is that they are totally seperate11:55
ntzrmtthihu777Heh, I've seen some folk get locked out of their own machine over fde.11:55
jrtappersikonia, Its that I can see the FDE tickbox only next to the wipe option11:55
ikoniajrtappers: possibly because you will need to encypt your install at install time11:55
ikoniajrtappers: I'd really suggest you think about if you need this though11:55
su3j8ggijefjcan someone help me with regex ? i need to search for a patter that is a variable is that possible ? something like this : p = re.compile(thisvariable[1])11:56
ntzrmtthihu777jrtappers: what ikonia said. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone get stuck out of their machine over fde.11:56
ntzrmtthihu777su3j8ggijefj: what language?11:56
su3j8ggijefjpython311:57
Forageis there no one who can tell me how to find out why GDM fails to start and how I can fix it?11:57
ntzrmtthihu777is there a #python channel, perhaps?11:57
su3j8ggijefjim new to irc11:57
cfhowlett!python11:57
ubottupython is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org/ or #python11:57
ntzrmtthihu777Forage: what is the nature of the failure?11:58
ddsscikonia, DefaultRoot ~ , yes. I didnt form my question well, I want to be able to chroot each individial user to a specific dir, not necessarily their home dir.11:58
ikoniaddssc: I don't believe you can map users to specific dir's I think it maps to their home drive, I could be wrong though11:58
Foragentzrmtthihu777: my system crashed so I had to reset it, now starting up hangs at the splash screen11:58
suoreHi, i've problem with QT Creator - cannot access to 'Desing'11:59
suoreits grey11:59
ntzrmtthihu777Forage: what were you doing to make it crash?11:59
su3j8ggijefjhow can i connect to #python ( im new to irc  )11:59
Foragentzrmtthihu777: exiting a game11:59
ntzrmtthihu777su3j8ggijefj: type /join #python11:59
su3j8ggijefjthanks ntzrmtthihu77712:00
ntzrmtthihu777Forage: try to boot and hit escape at the splash, should make the processes and such show up, get a bit more info12:00
Foragentzrmtthihu777: yeah I disabled the splah completely by altering grub to get that info12:01
ntzrmtthihu777hmm. can you get into a tty?12:01
Foragentzrmtthihu777: yes12:01
su3j8ggijefjnow i have another problem :  #python-unregistered :Cannot send to channel how can i fix this ?12:01
cfhowlett!register12:02
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode12:02
ntzrmtthihu777su3j8ggijefj: /msg nickserv help will tell you how to register and such.12:02
Foragentzrmtthihu777: with splash disabled it only tells me gdm failed to start, no reason why12:02
ntzrmtthihu777Forage: what version of ubuntu are you using?12:02
Forage12.10 gnome remix with all gnome3 ppa packages updated12:03
ntzrmtthihu777Forage: you know, as much as I hate distro elitism "Pinguy/Gnome Remix/etc is not supported here" and all, but why not just go with vanilla precise and install gnome-shell yourself?12:04
Foragentzrmtthihu777: it has been running fine for half a year, and the crash after exiting the game has occured before12:04
ntzrmtthihu777what game12:04
Foragentzrmtthihu777: gnome remix is basically the same as doing it manually12:05
Foragentzrmtthihu777: Heroes of Newerth12:05
Foragentzrmtthihu777: reinstalled the video card drivers as well just in case, but still no diffference12:06
ntzrmtthihu777is that a native ubuntu game or what? not big on gaming outside of design or emulation12:06
ElectricDuckHow do I launch the AMD Control Center from the terminal?12:06
Foragentzrmtthihu777: no, http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/12:06
ntzrmtthihu777ah, a browser game.12:07
Foragentzrmtthihu777: no12:07
ntzrmtthihu777or nope12:07
Foragentzrmtthihu777: I don't care much about that game crashing when I exit12:07
ntzrmtthihu777Forage: can you get any sort of access to your system, tty or anything?12:08
Foragentzrmtthihu777:12:08
Foragentzrmtthihu777: yes12:08
ntzrmtthihu777willing to try somethin?12:08
Foragentzrmtthihu777: anything to get it working again ;-)12:08
companionbtw some people have trouble accessing my website on Ubuntu they claim it does not load. Can like 5 of you peeps try to load this site: www.spelletjesarcade.nl and see if it works?12:08
ntzrmtthihu777companion: works for me.12:09
companionCurrently don't got an ubuntu install ready to check it out12:09
companionntzrmtthihu777, thanks =)12:09
ntzrmtthihu777Forage: sudo apt-get install lightdm, and choose lightdm when it gives the option.12:09
Foragentzrmtthihu777: ow dear, I was hoping to prevent that :-D12:10
falehi12:10
ntzrmtthihu777Forage: why? I use gnome-panel myself, but I find lightdm's login to be beautiful12:10
Foragentzrmtthihu777: but what then?12:11
ntzrmtthihu777Forage: try to boot again. if it hanged at gdm then it may not now.12:11
dr_willisHmm. i Find lightdms default theme and layout - rather annoying. ;)12:12
Foragentzrmtthihu777: and than switch back again to gdm? ;-)12:12
ntzrmtthihu777Forage: sure, give it a shot12:12
dr_willisIts way to 'hidden' to the user that the little round icon is where you click to select a differnt window manager.12:12
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: yeah, but sure is purdy12:13
Foragentzrmtthihu777: ok, have to restart my system (dual boot), I'll give it a try12:13
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dr_willisntzrmtthihu777:  i thought it was rather ugly last i looked at it.. it had silly dots all over the wallpaper.. and really nothing i saw outstanding to make it purty12:14
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: you can get rid of da dots, and assign your own wallpaper12:14
dr_willisntzrmtthihu777:  i did.. i switched to gdm12:15
ntzrmtthihu777:P lol.12:16
ntzrmtthihu777anywho, bestbot has thoroughly irritated me and its time for a cigar. Forage, I hope this works for you.12:17
Henk717Hello , Can anyone help me setup my AMD5000/Intel hybrid cards?12:18
chrisl33_sup12:19
Foragentzrmtthihu777: ok, that worked12:20
psichashi guys, i want compile kernel, and i need help to choose processor type, my cpu amd sempron 3000+ 1.8ghz12:21
Foragentzrmtthihu777: don't like it one bit though, all these unneeded packages installed12:21
Foragentzrmtthihu777: how do I switch back to gdm again?12:21
ntzrmtthihu777Forage: how do you think I fell about ktouch? dpkg-reconfigure lightdm or somthing to that effect12:22
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Guest9737Hi. I have problems trying to connect wireless network12:22
ntzrmtthihu777all these packages wanting to install kde libs and stuff, truly irritating.12:22
cfhowlettGuest9737, details ...12:23
Guest9737wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf12:23
Henk717Can someone help me install my AMD5000/Intel hybrid setup?12:23
Guest9737Association request to the driver failed12:23
ntzrmtthihu777and no offense to all you who may use KDE, but as a GNOME user I have no need for all that.12:23
ntzrmtthihu777!patience | HandheldPenguin12:24
ubottuHandheldPenguin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/12:24
ntzrmtthihu777dammit my bad.12:24
ntzrmtthihu777!patience | Henk71712:24
ubottuHenk717: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/12:24
Guest9737I add that I have successfully configured wireless network on Slackware12:24
Guest9737The configuration file comes from that configuration12:24
Foragentzrmtthihu777: rebooting again12:24
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MonkeyDustGuest9737  slackware config is different from ubuntu12:25
ePaxIm on ubuntu 12.04 and i have one ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM MF110/MF627/MF636 wich is 3g dongle... im trying to load it as usbserial but ubuntu keeps disconnecting usbserial12:25
Guest9737MonkeyDust, wpa_supplicant is an applications which does not depend from the distribution, is it?12:25
Guest9737*application12:25
tozenePax: pastebin lsusb please12:26
MonkeyDustGuest9737  is this useful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26313612:26
Guest9737I have tried what follows: wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -D ipw2200 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, but it complains that "Unsupported driver 'ipw2200'."12:26
ePaxtozen, Bus 001 Device 002: ID 19d2:0031 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM MF110/MF627/MF63612:27
ePaxI have tested even with modprobe usbserial product ... vendor...12:27
ePaxbut it keeps disconeccting12:27
Foragerats, GDM again fails to start12:30
elitenovellhello ubuntu12:31
elitenovellchannel12:31
quarkeyhi, got some problem with a ux31a zenbook prime after following the 'upgrading linux kernel manually'. The screen is totaly black, but i can see the mouse pointer. Does anyone have a clue what to do? :/12:32
quarkeyuse this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbookPrime#Upgrading_Linux_kernel_manually12:32
Guest9737OK, I have rewritten the configuration file according to the indications in that article, but it changes nothing. Error messages are the same12:34
Guest9737What I am wondering about is: why doesn't it want to take driver ipw2200 to work - it is listed in the official wpa_supplicant manual12:35
Guest9737But I have checked that modprobe ipw2200 works fine12:35
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cronusGuest9737, you can check wpa_supplicant -h for the list of available drivers12:38
Guest9737cronus, It has listed three drivers and ipw2200 is not among them. What should I do?12:41
cronusGuest9737, have you tried to run wpa_supplicant without specifying a driver?12:42
Guest9737Yes, it showed what I presented before12:42
cronusGuest9737, i haven't used it that much, but i never had to specify a driver.12:43
cronusGuest9737, sorry haven't seen earlier posts12:43
stroodlepuphaving problems with ubuntu....12:43
Guest9737cronus, ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument12:44
cfhowlett!details|stroodlepup,12:44
ubottustroodlepup,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:44
Guest9737Association request to the driver failed12:44
stroodlepupmy scrolling got reversed, and my home partition folder suddenly got full even though it still had 9 gig free12:45
quarkeyanyone with ux31a and got three extra minnutes to spare?12:46
scott_zhow can i put 2 commands on one command line. ex: I download a file through a command line program and then I want to rename what was downloaded. I have the commands I just need to know how to put them together12:47
tozenstroodlepup:sudo apt-get clean12:47
ikoniascott_z: command && command12:47
tozenstroodlepup:ubuntu-tweak12:47
quarkeyscott_z: or command ; command12:48
cronusGuest9737, sorry i have no idea what that means.12:48
scott_zThanks12:48
stroodlepupmy home folder is a separate partition. it's not my root folder12:48
tozenstroodlepup:see first df -H /your_home_folder12:49
MonkeyDuststroodlepup  use this line in a terminal      find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null12:49
MonkeyDuststroodlepup  or rather use this line in a terminal      find /home -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null12:50
stroodlepupi used baobab already, it cannot find the cause of it12:52
akashj87Hi guys .. I am using ubuntu 12.10 in Virtualbox (in mac osx). Using macosx terminal I use SSH to connect to ubuntu box ...can anybody tell me how can I use gedit in SSH ?12:53
MonkeyDustakashj87  ssh is a terminal, you need a GUI to run gedit12:54
lee-tiger??12:54
akashj87MonkeyDust : can you suggest what can I use to achieve that ?12:55
stroodlepupalso my scroll up became scroll down, and vice versa12:55
MonkeyDustakashj87  not with ssh, i can't12:55
scott_zwhat would the command line be to rename a file keeping the extention without knowing what it is. ex: file name xxxxx.mp4 and want to rename to yyyyy.mp4 without using the .mp412:55
sonOfRaif you want gui programs remotely, you have to use some kind of rdp12:55
dr_willisakashj87:  you would have to use an X server on OS-X that has X forwarding and it would appear on the OS-X desktop12:56
Guest9737I think that there is a comparatively simple problem: a firmware needed is not installed12:57
Guest9737But how can I install it?12:57
akashj87thanks dr_willis , MonkeyDust and SonOfRa12:58
cronusGuest9737, try installing linux-firmware and linux-firmware-nonfree13:00
scott_zif my file is named xxxxx.mp4 and I try mv xxxxx.* 'yyy yy'.* i literally get yyy yy.* but what I need is yyy yy.mp4 (yes i have the space in the yyy yy on purpose)13:01
Guest9737I have just read that installing knetworkmanager can help13:01
SoruGood morning13:03
cronusscott_z, if you have the name in a variable file_name you can use ${file_name##*.} to get the extension13:03
MonkeyDustSoru  other timezone here13:03
Guest9737linux-firmware is in the newest version13:04
SoruMonkeyDust: 14:04 here, I've just wake up haha13:04
scott_zcronus: sorry my shell scripting skills are sadly lacking. Which is what I am trying to improve. :) A little more info would be helpful13:06
Guest9737Still13:06
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Guest9737Still the same...13:07
wizohello, i just installed ubuntu 12.10 desktop into my virtualbox, it seemed to install okay and asked for a reset to complete which I did. however when it tried to book up, it is stuck at start up where it's saying "Checking battery state.." "Starting mount netowrk filesystems" ect ect "Starting"13:07
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wizoanyway to debug what is wrong?13:08
cronusscott_z, as an example: file_name=xxxxx.mp4;mv "$file_name" "yyy yy.${file_name##*.}"13:09
Guest9737how to run NetworkManager?13:10
weeeleeehi13:12
weeeleeecan anyone help me ?13:12
formyciaoù13:12
MonkeyDustweeeleee  start with a question13:12
weeeleeehow can i disable my wireless on start up of unbuntu?13:13
cfhowlettweeeleee, details13:13
formycome si utilizza13:13
MonkeyDust!it13:13
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)13:13
weeeleeewhen after i switch on my laptop after it load unbuntu logo13:13
weeeleeemy wifi led is turn on13:13
weeeleee*when after i switch on my laptop and after it load unbuntu logo13:13
akashj87dr_willis : I enabled X Fowarding, and now I am able to run gedit. However I am getting errors that "process:6012 gtk-warning locale not supported by C library.13:14
ntzr|awaylater13:14
cfhowlettweeeleee, sounds like a bios switch setting would do it ...13:14
akashj87Fontconfig warning : ignoring UTF-8: not a valid region tag.13:15
weeeleeebios switch setting?13:15
akashj87is there anything i can do to prevent these warnings ?13:15
brightnessdell xps L501X can't set brightness using function keys. even tried using brightness and power.i think it is a bug. please help13:15
weeeleeebut i can't find anything related to wireless13:15
scott_zcronus: I am downloading a file that I do not know that the extension will be until it is downloaded. is there a way to modify you comm and to except wildcards? (ex: file is xxxx with unknown extension and need to rename to 'yyy yy' with same extension)13:15
weeeleeein bios13:15
formyma non esiste più in italiano13:15
brightnessdell xps L501X can't set brightness using function keys. even tried using brightness and power.i think it is a bug. please help13:16
chrisl33sorry13:16
MonkeyDustformy  then continue in english, please13:16
chrisl33okay13:16
chrisl33what's up guys13:16
chrisl33bunchabots?13:17
chrisl33fingers on keyboards13:17
MonkeyDustchrisl33  did you have a support question?13:17
chrisl33naptime13:17
cfhowlettchrisl33, do you have a question?13:17
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chrisl33why dont people follow me on twitter? like famous ones?13:18
chrisl33laters13:18
cfhowlettchrisl33, wrong channel .. this is ubuntu13:18
BluesKajchrisl33:  because twitter is for twits :)13:18
formyaiuto13:18
brightnessdell xps L501X can't set brightness using function keys. even tried using brightness and power.i think it is a bug. please help13:19
BluesKajhey cfhowlett , how goes it?13:19
cfhowlettBluesKaj, it's your world, I just live in it ...13:19
BluesKajyeah sure :)13:20
brightnessdell xps L501X can't set brightness using function keys. even tried using brightness and power.i think it is a bug. please help13:20
BluesKaj!patience | brightness13:21
ubottubrightness: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/13:21
cronusscott_z, http://pastebin.com/zTBPYYey13:25
Sonderbladeanyone know of a free .tef file viewer?13:28
surioHow to display my battery status charge remaining, etc... on my menu bar13:32
surio12.04 Unity 2D13:32
surioOn System settings, I have chosen the option show battery on menu when running on battery13:33
surioBut battery does not come on13:34
surioSo, how to bring the battery option on the machine.13:34
surioFWIW, this is a toshiba satellite laptop, and batmon seems to have troubles working with Toshiba13:35
surio??13:35
dr_willissystem is confused as to the fact it has a battery perhaps. some lsptops are quirky13:36
dr_willisid check theforums and askubuntu.com for that exact make laptop13:36
dr_willisthere may be some known work arounds or tweaks13:36
mac_hello.. i would need a little help now.. i am now on other computer.. my previus nick was stupidBYdefault13:37
suriook thx13:37
mac_subject: copy updates to another computer13:37
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mac_pppZero?13:38
SykoYo13:38
pppZerohola!13:39
Sykothere any BT users here13:39
k1l!backtrack | Syko13:39
ubottuSyko: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)13:39
mac_hello.. i would need a little help now.. i am now on other computer.. (stupidBYdefault)13:39
pppZeroeasiest way would be via ssh - provided you have it on at least the "main" machine ie: scp -a your_user@ip.add.re.ss:/var/cache/apt/archives/ /var/cache/apt/archives/13:40
mac_i copied that *.deb packages to my external HD, now i run that "fresher" version.. i cant paste  it into a folder13:41
pppZeroah!13:41
pppZeroopen a terminal and run: sudo su -13:41
kdsmainif I'm running GNOME classic on 12.04 LTS and I upgrade to 12.10, will I still be able to use GNOME classic? Or will I be forced to use GNOME 3/Unity?13:41
dr_williserr... use 'sudo -s'  not 'sudo su -'13:41
dr_williskdsmain:  thers a classic mode on 12.1013:41
kdsmainneat13:42
Sykog13:42
kdsmaindr_willis: thanks13:42
pppZeroit'll ask you for your password, and you'll become root, and you'll then have write access to the apt cache dir13:42
m_WHi, so I'm on 12.04 and whenever I try to apt-get update now I get 404 Not Found all over the place. I disabled all external ppa's and selected Download from Server for United States in Software Sources. I'm not behind a proxy or anything. It was working fine a few days ago, I am stumped :/13:42
dr_willisi perfer unity or gnome shell over classic. ;P13:42
pppZerosorry dr_willis, habit :)13:42
quarkeydr_willis: where do i find classic mode settings?13:42
dr_willisquarkey:  its on the login screen somewhere. i dont use it. so dont know its exact name13:43
quarkeyok13:43
quarkeythanks13:43
dr_willissame as it was on 12.0413:43
k1lm_W: can you show the output from "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get upgrade" in terminal in a pastebin?13:43
kdsmaindr_willis: I like GNOME 3 better than classic, but I love the individual window brightness adjustments that compiz config settings manager lets you have, and that doesn't work with GNOME 313:43
m_Wk1l, sure one sec13:43
dr_williskdsmain:  cant say ive ever used the feature..13:43
kdsmainand I don't like Unity on my laptop13:43
mac_i have sudo access, what now?13:44
dr_willismac_:  what exactly are you trying to do?13:44
mac_now i can copy files?13:44
kdsmaindr_willis: It's literally my favorite GUI feature of any computer system ever13:44
dr_willismac_:  the cp command copys files...13:44
kdsmaindr_willis: my eyes would fall out if I didn't have it, but it's not as shotgun-y as dimming the whole screen13:45
m_Wk1l, http://pastebin.com/409xbZwU13:45
dr_williskdsmain:  cant say that i really touch the brightness at all. ;)13:45
kdsmaindr_willis: you must have better eyes than I13:46
mac_dr_willis, .. i got now sudo access, what now?13:46
dr_williskdsmain:  not really..  without glasses im pratically blind.13:46
dr_willismac_:  i asked what you are trying to do EXACTLY...13:46
mac_ow...13:46
dr_willismac_:  so i have no idea what you need to do next13:46
pptpi cannot install FarCry. How can i install FarCry 3 on my Ubuntu 12.10?13:47
kdsmaindr_willis: haha maybe your eyes are more tolerant of light13:47
k1lm_W: set the sources to the main servers for a tryout (in the gui under software-properties-gtk)13:48
m_Wk1l, ok13:48
quarkeyI think i just messed up my installation ;D13:48
mac_dr_willis, check back my previous wrotes under nick stupidBYdefualt.. about 10min13:48
k1lm_W: maybe its a not proper synced mirror thats causing the problems13:48
pppZeromac_, sorry, busy, but you just need to cp the .deb files from your external hdd into your /var/cache/apt/archives/ dir13:48
pppZerodr_willis, he's got slow, slow internet, and trying to share his previously downloaded .deb's with his other machines13:49
mac_THANK U, pppZero!13:49
mac_but.. when i open them.. wont let me install..13:50
m_Wk1l, same output :/13:50
mac_and, wont let me copy them either13:50
scott_zcronus: here is a real world example of your script and it worked like a champ. Now I have about 60 more of these to set up in a single script. What do I use for a separator so that each one will run as a single script? http://pastebin.com/qEJUsC1D13:50
m_Wso strange13:50
dr_willisso copy them to your other machines /var/apt/cache or was it /var/cache/apt directory you have to do so as ROOT via sudo normally13:51
pppZerodon't open/install them manually, just do the normal updates like you normally would, and it'll use those files from the cache dir instead of trying to download them all over again13:51
mac_unless... i shall not used now to install updetes inside that dir?13:51
pppZeromac_, do you have a network setup between your computers?13:52
k1lm_W: can you show your sources list? maybe there is some corruption in there13:52
mac_negative13:52
dr_willisfor shareing deb downloads.. you may want to look into using apt-cacher-ng on one of themachines mac_13:53
mac_not yet13:53
Phryqis there a way to add a hibernate button to the shutdown menu?13:53
mac_am... no go..13:53
Phryqlike I have "hibernate" installed, which allowed me to use the command line to hibernate13:53
dr_willis!find hibernate13:53
ubottuFound: hibernate, libhibernate-commons-annotations-java, libhibernate-jbosscache-java, libhibernate-validator-java, libhibernate3-java13:53
Phryqbut it would be faster if it were connected to the shutdown button13:53
cronusscott_z, please don't use it like this. you most definitely going to lose files. if your source files don't have space in them you could use a for loop.13:54
m_Wk1l, sure http://pastebin.com/Z9qM0TAP13:54
scott_zPhryq: try this: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/important-things-to-do-after-install_26.html13:55
scott_zPhryq: step #113:56
wilee-nileePhryq, Fond this with a quick google search, never tried it myself http://linuxg.net/add-the-hibernate-button-to-the-shutdown-menu-on-ubuntu-12-04/13:56
Phryqthanks13:57
scott_zPhryq: hope that is what you where looking for.13:58
hazizAny suggestions for low hanging fruits/bugs with programs written in C to work on?13:58
mac_u see... i use an external HD with linux on it... but.. the ubuntu i would like to refresh with updates is in laptop.. ->that laptop runs boot-up external hd13:58
mac_with updates13:58
pppZeromac_, no-go to the network, or no go with the .debs in your cache?13:58
mac_i am now runing laptops version of ubuntu.. practicaly empty...13:58
mac_any1 copy?13:58
mac_no go - to copy *.deb to laptops dir ../13:58
mac_cant copy13:58
mac_i got sudo access .. in terminal...13:58
mac_how 2 copy?13:58
FloodBot1mac_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:58
Phryqhey, that page you linked has a 'gnome advanced tools' thing. Is that any good if I use Unity?13:59
mac_sorry, 4 flood13:59
scott_zPhryq: That is what I am running.13:59
Phryqthe gnome advanced tools?14:00
scott_zPhryq: worked for me. Dont know about your system though.14:00
Phryqand you are running Unity?14:01
wilee-nileePhryq, Using nicks is really important here you want the person you are talking to know it is them you are addressing, if you are asking me about the tool I do not see it.14:02
k1lm_W: i think there is a / missing in the sources list at the end of the links " .../ubuntu/"14:02
scott_zPhryq: Sure am. I did a straight install from the CD (usb stick for me) and went straight to that page and did everything on it in order.14:02
Phryqah, sorry wilee-nilee, I was asking scott_z14:03
Phryqok awesome, so I will install that as well14:03
scott_zPhryq: Although I am running 12.04 LTS should not matter with 12.1014:03
Phryqthanks for all the help guys14:03
mac_pppZero, ?14:03
wilee-nileePhryq, Cool, just wanted to help if I could. ;)14:03
Phryqwhat is the benefit of Gnome Shell? Would you recomend it?14:05
ZazhiaDoes anyone have time here?14:05
k1l!details | Zazhia14:06
ubottuZazhia: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:06
mac_15:07PM14:06
mac_:)14:06
scott_zPhryq: Gnome is what I am used to using.14:07
ZazhiaI use Linux Mint 14, and needs to install Windows 7 instead. I have a usb key ready for installing it, but I cannot figure out to make the computer boot from the key. Or to change the boot order. Tried googling, but not doing it right it seems. Get nothing I can use.14:08
Phryqthat Ubuntu Tweak tool allows me to download programs. I'm noticing that Virtualbox, for example, can be downloaded wheras I had to manually download it using the command line. Is there any reason *not* to use this tool for downloading programs?14:09
k1lPhryq: most reasons are personal preferences and to like the look. there are many desktops available. best to try out which one suits you best14:09
Phryqok thakns14:09
escottPhryq, i can think of no good reason to use ubuntu tweak to download programs14:10
escottPhryq, its possible that tweak uses PPA version and you should be certain you want the PPA first14:10
Phryqescott, any reason not to?14:10
escott!ppa | Phryq14:10
ubottuPhryq: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge14:10
k1lPhryq: if you contact the tool maintianer in case of prolblems im fine with you using it.14:10
wilee-nileePhryq, You want vbox from the source not the ubuntu repositories.14:11
Phryqah, so only download it if it's not available in the normal repos?14:11
k1lPhryq: but to come here: "ubuntu tweak tool ruined my ubuntu" is difficult to support14:11
Phryqwilee-nilee, why is that? I've heard the opposite from some people14:11
PhryqI see k1l14:11
k1lPhryq: we, in here, support the official ubuntu packages (generally). its difficult to support things that and to get to know if its ubuntus fault or the 3rd party packages fault.14:13
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wilee-nileePhryq, It is latest up to date version, inn the past there were two versions, they are now combined, the oracle version is thought to be more stable I guess, it is personal choice really.14:13
Phryqso one school of thought is that the source is the most up to date version, the other is that the ubuntu repos are better patched for Ubuntu, and problems can be more easily solved by ubuntu support people. Is this right?14:15
m_Wk1l, no luck :(14:16
wilee-nileePhryq, You have to be careful with generalizations, the question you ask is full of varibles and outliers.14:16
BluesKajPhryq: well there are more of them14:17
scott_zcronus: ok have been doing research. All my source files do NOT have spaces however the are not sequential. Trying to figure out how to set up a for loop if not sequential. In order for me to set up just one of these, I have to copy a URL and put it into the script. Then I have to copy the file name (the number .mp4 in this case but may not be an mp4 could be .avi, etc,ergo why I need to get extension from the downloaded file). Then I14:25
scott_zhave to get the title (name) from the website that I want to call it. After I do all this by hand I now have the script that I put on pastebin. I want to put this all together into one massive script so I can fire and forget.14:25
quarkeyYou should have a look at perl for that, scott_z14:27
DildoTits McGee14:28
scott_zquarkey: I think that I would agree with you and it is something that I am looking at. However, the time it would take for me to learn a new language would take too long for a 'down and dirty' script that I need to run now.14:30
somsipscott_z: what are you doing it in now?14:30
YokoBRguys, my ubuntu laptop is hot as hell. What can i do? (i can't install the proprietary drivers, since my onboard gpu is HD4250 and ati haven't released the legacy drivers to xserver 1.13)14:30
scott_zsomsip: just a bash shell script14:31
ICheer_No0Mhi all14:31
somsipscott_z: <shudder> Ah well, if it works, it works14:32
eccstartuphow to setup a irc server14:32
quarkeyscott_z: May i see the bash script?14:32
Vampire0Hi there, I have a quick question. I have the sources of a debian package (apt-get source <package>) and am able to build it with "debian/rules build". But if I change something and run "debian/rules build" again it just tells me that nothing is to do for "build". Is there a way to tell it that something is to be done besides calling "debian/rules clean build" which takes ages to finish, just because on14:32
Vampire0e changed source file14:32
knowjIs it possible to sync permissions from one server to another?14:32
knowjmanaged to chown my /var14:32
knowj*chown -R /var14:32
ikoniaVampire0: remove the built package, and rebuild14:32
ikoniaVampire0: nothing is to be done because it's already done14:32
escott_knowj, doubtful the two servers would have the same files in /var14:33
ikoniaknowj: that won't do anything14:33
ikoniaknowj: you need to specifcy a user:group for chown to change something14:33
knowjI would boot up a snapshot on another instance14:33
knowjso it's just a few hours behind14:33
ikoniaknowj: you don't need to14:33
ikoniaknowj: chown -R /var does nothing14:33
knowjikonia: the permissions killed mysql14:33
ikoniaknowj: cohwn -R /var does nothing14:33
Vampire0ikonia, what do you mean by "build package"? If I remove the build executable it still tells me nothing to do. And the .deb package was not build, I just told it to build the software with "debian/rules build", didn't I?14:33
YokoBRguys, my ubuntu laptop is hot as hell. What can i do? (i can't install the proprietary drivers, since my onboard gpu is HD4250 and ati haven't released the legacy drivers to xserver 1.13)14:34
scott_zquarkey: here is real world script. chokes at the ; . I have to put this all together by hand. I want to put each section into one file and fire and forget. http://pastebin.com/xTDZ3t1914:34
ikoniaYokoBR: haven't we done this loop14:34
ikoniaYokoBR: you where given 3 option - you could not use 2 of them, so where left with only 114:34
ikoniaYokoBR: why are we doing the loop again ?14:34
knowjikonia: I accidentally chown -R www-data:www-data /var whilst logged in as root rathe then ./var. It took out mysql just worried what else it's going to cause problems with14:35
ikoniaknowj: right, so that's a different command as you said you did14:35
YokoBRikonia, i can't install 10.04. Also the other 2 options where dropped.  I had to install 12.10 again.14:35
scott_zquarkey: when I say section, I mean everything prior to the ; as a single command (script). I have about 60 of these to put together14:35
theadminscott_z: "#bash" isn't a valid shebang, use #!/bin/bash or #!env bash, for starters14:35
ikoniaYokoBR: ok - so nothing is changed in 24 hours, so what do you expect t ohappen ?14:35
ikoniaYokoBR: why can you not insall 10.04 ?14:35
ikoniaknowj: so put it back to root:root14:36
YokoBRikonia, in the last 24 hour my laptop wasn't burning. I don't know why, but i've download 2 times, 32 and 64 bit, and both don't even boot.14:36
theadminscott_z: Also, your semicolon comes after nothing. A semicolon must directly follow a command, on the same line. Just get rid of it.14:37
Vampire0any idea ikonia?14:37
ikoniaYokoBR: ok - so use another media14:37
YokoBRi mean, i've used 4 medias. 2 with 32bit version and 2 with 64bit. The only thing i haven't tryied yet is usb pen.14:38
knowjikonia: not everything in /var is root:root14:38
ikoniaknowj: no, but it's a good start14:38
ikoniaknowj: putting it ot root:root - 775 , then working backwards14:38
scott_ztheadmin: hey what can I say, noobie with scripting :) That why i am here, trying to learn. Thanks for that help. will make the necessary change. so looking at my ex. How do I take each section and seperate them so they run as a single script?14:39
theadminscott_z: You don't need to separate them, but uh, if you're looking at doing multiple similar tasks why not make the script take arguments?14:39
miziuhi, i have a problem with unblocking ports to upload in deluge, if there's someone able to help me, please pm me14:39
knowjikonia: just wondered if there was a similar command or flag to SCP that I could run off a snapshot to restore the permissions of all found files14:39
ikoniaknowj: not like that no14:40
netherlands6Hi please I try to reinstall grub on sdb but doesnt work my linux partition is on sdb1 and grub on sdb or maybe sdb114:40
ikoniaVampire0: sorry, no idea14:40
quarkeyscott_z: http://linux.about.com/od/Bash_Scripting_Solutions/a/How-To-Pass-Arguments-To-A-Bash-Script.htm14:40
bepebehow can i install additional drivers (that auto-detect correct graphics drivers) like in previous versions of Ubuntu? I am running ubuntu 12.10 x6414:41
quarkeyagree with theadmin, argument would be wise14:41
mJaykbepebe: what card are you running ?14:41
netherlands6Im on the live cd atm14:41
mJaykbepebe: certain cards only have driver support up to certain kernels14:41
bepebemJayk, AMD HD 545014:41
wilee-nileenetherlands6, How are you installing grub to sdb, and how does it not work, your description lacks a lot of good information.14:42
scott_ztheadmin: thats what I am trying to do. any help would be great. bearing in mind that I would have to have a 'table'?? (syntax??) with the file number and a matching file name that I want to rename it to.14:42
scott_zquarkey: thanks checking it out now.14:42
mJaykbepebe: thats strange you should have prop drivers.  Do you want install the amd drivers ? i.e. the ones with the amd catalyst control center?14:43
netherlands6ok I got the error : error unknow filesystem grub rescue when booting,14:43
bepebemJayk, not necessarily no, but I just want to go above 1280x720 resolution. If I go above that, it says monitor not supported. When if I run Windows, I can hit 1900x128014:44
bepebebrb14:44
mJaykbepebe: sure, Search the software center for amdcccle14:44
bananapieHey, I can play audio as root but not as my user. I am in the audio group and /dev/snd/* is writeable for audio group. Help?14:46
summatusmentishi all, I have an ubuntu VPS, running in Xen HVM (domU). I had to install as 10.04, because of the ISOs available, but I ran `do-release-upgrade`, and I'm now on 12.04. However, my network has stopped working entirely, I can get an IP from DHCP, but I can't resolve DNS, and I can't ping any IP. Anyone know why?14:46
bepebemJayk, I selected a proprietary driver from Additional Drivers in Software Sources and now when logged in, I have no window borders or title bars ?14:46
mJaykbepebe: try an sudo apt-get update after the install then an x restart14:47
wilee-nileenetherlands6, First always use nicks. Next run this script and copy and paste to pastebin the full text made, then post the url of that here. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/14:47
bepebemJayk, nothing needs updating14:49
quarkeyscott_z: if you like hacking around like that you should definitive check out perl. It's really flexible and good for those kind of tasks. It can be difficult at start, but once you get to know the syntax, it starts to pick up :)14:49
netherlands6wilee-nilee sudo: /home/ubuntu/Downloads/bootinfoscript: command not found14:49
Rexterduring my original install of 12.04, I forgot to format the partition that I reserved for SWAP, so the system had no SWAP. Now I have used gparted to format the partition for SWAP. Do i need to do anything else to activate it?14:49
StephenShey14:50
StephenSwhen I put pc to suspend its auto turned on without any trigger14:50
StephenSI have programs running in background which interact with net etc..14:50
StephenSso how to put pc to sleep/hibernate instead of suspend?14:50
theadminRexter: Yes, you need to swapon and add it to /etc/fstab14:50
mJaykbepebe: i had this probleb before trying to think how I solved it,14:50
theadminRexter: Example fstab line: /dev/sda1 none swap sw 0 014:51
bepebemJayk, I have no unity side bar or title bar at the top with the usual time and data etcetera14:51
StephenShello?14:52
theadminStephenS: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html14:52
mJaykbepebe: I had this problem before trying to think how I solved it do you have any other desktops installed ? or are you able to test out the unity 2d desktop14:52
bepebeno other desktops, just clean install of 12.10 x6414:53
wilee-nileenetherlands6, I believe you have to extract it first14:53
bepebehow can i try unity 2d ?14:53
scott_zquarkey: I really thank you for your advice and I am following it. It will be great for future use. My situation is unique. I am on the road ALL the time and do not always have access to the Internet and when I do, it is usually really slow. Right now for the next 12hrs, I have a fantastic Internet connection and want to take advantage of the speed. That is why I am just trying to put together a 'down and dirty' to grab these files whi14:53
scott_zle I can. :)14:53
mJaykbepebe: when you see the logon screen click the white ubuntu logo next to your name should open a drop down box14:53
bepebeOK, will give that a try14:53
wilee-nileenetherlands6, Make sure it is then in Downloads and run the command on the page.14:53
bepebethanks14:53
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StephenStheadmin, didnt worked14:54
netherlands6wilee-nilee Im on a live cd because of the grub error14:54
StephenSagain auto turned off.14:54
StephenSI mean its hibernated for 2 seconds and then auto enabled14:54
wilee-nileenetherlands6, Does not matter, by the way since you are loading to sdb is it first read in the bios?14:54
quarkeyscott_z: Ah, I've would have done the same :D14:54
phracvim14:55
phracoops14:55
StephenS?14:56
bepebemJayk, there is nowhere I can see to select unity 2d ?14:57
bepebemJayk, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/unity-2d-removed-from-ubuntu-12-10 ?14:58
wilee-nileebepebe, What release?14:58
bepebe12.1014:58
mJaykbepebe: ah my bad ok14:58
wilee-nileebepe86, It has been discontinued.14:58
mJaykbepebe: that might explain that at least :P14:58
bepebe:D14:58
scott_zquarkey: checking out http://qntm.org/files/perl/perl.html now. If you have any other resources that you could recommend that would be great. And Thanks again!14:59
DoniHello, I have a problem when I try to install my Printer it says this Extracting file: printdriver.te Extracting file: lexmark-08z-series-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb Extracting file: launcher.c Extracting file: launcher Extracting file: lsbrowser Extracting file: lsusbdevice Using dpkg installation ============================= Execute: dpkg -i --force-architecture lexmark-08z-series-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb > /tmp/selfgz2938/pkg/files/dpkg_msg14:59
wilee-nilee!pastebin | Doni14:59
ubottuDoni: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:59
netherlands6then I<ll be back later I dont know what to do with the 3 files and I have to go yesterday I stay all day on screen because of this grub error14:59
bepebemJayk, I'd quite happily use the default driver, but everything is over scanned, and like I say, I cannot bump the resolution up without mode not supported showing up14:59
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Doniok15:00
bepebemJayk, see here http://postimg.org/image/vq67ocqrr/15:00
DoniWhen I try to install my driver15:01
DoniIt says Error report15:01
DoniI have a Lexmark x667515:01
wilee-nileeDoni, Did you check if ubuntu has the drivers?15:02
BluesKajDoni:  lexmark printers have little or no support on linux15:02
wilee-nileeahh15:02
Donihow do you mean ubuntu?15:02
quarkeyscott_z: that would cover a bunch ;) You should also check out the official perl documentation: http://perldoc.perl.org/ I think you can download the entire documentation. No worries mate :)15:03
DoniI'm a rookie you can say I don't understand that much but i have no choice becuase my windows sucks15:03
mJaykbepebe: yea I know that error, have you tried going to the ati website and getting drivers from ther e?15:03
Doniati website?15:03
bepebemJayk, yup, when I install the drivers, I have to use --force, and then when I log in, no unity, top titlebar, or window borders15:03
mJaykDoni: Yea the website by ATI :D15:04
bitbytehey15:04
wilee-nileeDoni, Ubuntu has repositories they contain drivers, they are if available in the add printer gui, however it appears as BluesKaj suggests lexmark may not be part of linux supportes15:04
bitbyteany one here have experience with deluge on ubuntu server15:04
scott_zquarkey: grabbed the pdf. thanks so much. this is going to be FUN! Thanks!15:04
Doniyes it supports Linux but It's not that good as we see15:04
bepebemJayk, http://postimg.org/image/6q9blxe47/15:04
Doniadd printer gui15:04
mJaykbepebe: mmmmmmm, could be a dependence issue15:05
quarkeyscott_z: I like your enthusiasm :)15:05
DoniI don't understand nothing at all lol15:05
bepebemJayk, do I need to update my kernel headers then ?15:05
mJaykbepebe: looks like it could be that, have you trued apt-get install fglrx-drive ?15:06
DoniWhen I try just to print with Ubuntu It doesn't work15:06
mJaykbepebe: that might list the deps'15:06
quarkeyscott_z: the language is powerfull. Me and my co-worker made a software package for an IBM TS3500 tape library once.15:06
BluesKajDoni:  some business class printers have linux support , if you have one of those then you may be in luck15:06
bepebemJayk, OK, will give that lot a try, thanks for your help :)15:06
adamkmJayk: Why did you choose to use the driver directly from the AMD website and not the version packaged nicely by/for Ubuntu?15:07
DoniSadly I haven't on of those15:07
wilee-nileeDoni, Just for the record. And use nicks please it is confusing enough already trying to tell who is talking to who without nicks. http://blog.sudobits.com/2012/04/13/how-to-install-printer-driver-on-ubuntu-12-04/15:07
mJaykadamk: because its not detecting any prop drivers on his system its a common problem with 12.1015:07
DoniOK thanks willee15:08
netherlands6wilee-nilee http://pastebin.com/jSPhgAZ415:08
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DoniI'm gooing to try this out15:09
bepebemJawayk, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic allowed the AMD drivers from their website run without the --force option and I am now logged in with a proper resolution and not over scanned! Thanks for your help ^_^15:09
mJawaykbepebe: brilliant :) glad to hear15:09
greg_25Hello, is there any way to integrate my qt application into gnome/unity (gtk)?15:10
DoniLexmark does support Linux15:10
DoniBecuase other Linux users are saying that they solved This problem before me15:10
wilee-nileenetherlands6, You left out 98% of the script, however I see unknown filesystem type in sdb1 is this a fresh install?15:10
skypcehello people i am with ubuntu 12.10 i have crackling stutter sound15:10
skypcei have a alc 270 intel hda15:11
skypcecan you helpme please15:11
DoniThis method that you send me doesn't work for me15:11
netherlands6wilee-nilee yes is a fresh install15:11
wilee-nileenetherlands6, What partition type did you choose?15:11
netherlands6ext415:11
DoniI downloaded this from the lexmark website http://support.lexmark.com/index?segment=SUPPORT&userlocale=EN_US&locale=en&productCode=LEXMARK_X6675&page=product&frompage=null15:12
netherlands6wilee-nilee ext415:12
Donibut the driver says Error report when Installing it15:13
wilee-nileenetherlands6, I would reinstall, an unknown filesystem type showing is not really normal.15:13
Donihow to solve this??!!15:13
scott_zquarkey: Ok thanks to you and cronus and theadmin, I now have a 'down and dirty' script that will do what I need. And with the ammo you gave me (perl) this could be a lot easier in the future. Here is an example of the tweaks that made it work. Bearing in mind that there are about 58 more to add to this script. :)15:14
Doniwilee-nilee15:14
scott_zquarkey: http://pastebin.com/dtNW4T6Q15:14
netherlands6wilee-nilee thank I will shutdown the computer then this grub error ruin my day yesterday I will reinstall it tonight then15:15
mahdavihi i need a good download manager like IDM for ubuntu15:15
mahdavigood as good IDM. can you help me to find15:16
Donidpkg: fout bij afhandelen van lexmark-08z-series-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb (--install):  parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control' near line 9 package 'lexmark-08z-series-driver':  blank line in value of field 'Description' Fouten gevonden tijdens behandelen van:  lexmark-08z-series-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb Execute: rm lexmark-08z-series-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb ERROR REPORT **15:16
wilee-nileeDoni, I'm not really the person to ask honestly. ;)15:16
greg_25mahdavi: gui or command line?15:16
DoniOk lol =p15:16
greg_25mahdavi: SteadyFlow,   or DownThemAll for Firefox is nice15:17
mahdavigreg_25: GUI is better but command line is good too15:17
greg_25mahdavi: for cli:  wget or curl15:17
Doniwell I guess I will just going to repair my windows i have dual boot15:17
mahdavigreg_25: i test DownThemAll in FF and wget and multiget but download in this software is not as IDM15:18
wilee-nileenetherlands6, If I were you I would post all of that script at the ubuntu forums, there may be information there that is pertinent as to why you are getting a unrecognized file system, I hate to see you waste your time.15:19
mahdavigreg_25: but i will try curl15:19
greg_25mahdavi: maybe better :)15:19
mahdavigreg_25: to test it15:20
mahdavigreg_25: tanks15:20
wudoktrall new to me15:22
wudoktrlike trying to learn a new language huh ?15:22
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helloworldhi15:23
wudoktrhello, how ja B today?15:23
helloworldall ok15:24
helloworlddoes anyone know, how to make something like google 8.8.8.8?15:25
helloworldI need to publish a service on fixed IP-address15:26
ikoniahelloworld: publish what service15:26
helloworldone tcp port with listener15:27
ikoniahelloworld: what service15:27
greg_25dns server15:27
helloworldnonono, just another tsp service15:27
ikoniagreg_25: please let him answer15:27
helloworldnonono, just another tcp service15:28
ikoniahelloworld: what "service" do you want to host15:28
mindcatok, i tried linux mint, now ubuntu has same problem.15:29
helloworldI think, it be rinetd on the frontend, but the backend is not wellknown software15:29
ikoniahelloworld: I'll ask one more time "what service do you want to run"15:29
Akiva-MobileUbuntu 12.10 raid live cd: How?15:29
ikoniahelloworld: no cryptic answers, just a factual detail of the service15:29
ikoniaAkiva-Mobile: a livecd runs in ram, not disk15:29
Akiva-Mobileikonia: Ubiquity was said to have it15:30
Akiva-Mobileubiquity not released yet.15:30
helloworldikonia, it named "inetserver", not well known yet15:30
ikoniaAkiva-Mobile: what are you talking about, a livecd runs in ram, not disks15:30
Akiva-Mobileubiquity is python.15:30
mindcati have problem boot livecd from harddisk. GRUB4DOS bootloader is fine, and after loading screen, it say "Could not find the ISO /ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso".15:30
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Akiva-Mobileikonia: Install software raid, me want.15:30
k1l!away > qos|away15:30
ubottuqos|away, please see my private message15:30
ikoniaAkiva-Mobile: buikd the meta devices, the installer will see them if you start them before the installer15:31
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ikoniahelloworld: do you have a link for the software/it's homepage/maker15:31
Akiva-Mobilehow build meta devices? Gparted does not support it as far as I know.15:31
ikoniaAkiva-Mobile: mdadm15:31
Akiva-Mobilethanks, will give it a look.15:31
Akiva-Mobilehave a cookie.15:32
helloworldIkonia, yes: http://ritm.ru software named PCN615:32
ikoniahelloworld: right, so it's not called "inetserver" it's called PCN615:32
ikoniahelloworld: that link is just hardware devices15:32
mindcatprevious one, i am boot linux mint from harddisk, GRUB4DOS bootloader is fine, and after splash screen, it say "Could not find the ISO /linuxmint-14.1-mate-dvd-32bit.iso".15:33
mindcatthen i let GRUB4DOS load this ISO to System Memory and boot, and i choose first option. after splash screen, it say "unable to find a medium containing a live file system." i am pretty sure ISO is there.15:33
ikoniamindcat: why are you using grub4dos ?15:34
ikoniamindcat: this is not an ubuntu setup15:34
mindcatbecause, i can't boot from CD15:34
k1lmindcat: i dont see the ubuntu support issue in linuxmint and grub4dos15:34
ikoniamindcat: this is not really an ubuntu issue,15:34
mindcatso i going use grub huh?15:34
ikoniamindcat: you can use what you want15:35
cronusmindcat, could you pastebin the relevant section of menu.lst?15:35
helloworldikonia, this is win32 software, which listens one tcp port. I need to tune tcp balancer on failure redundant hosting.15:35
mindcatcrouns, yes.15:35
ikoniahelloworld: ok - so win32 software, you sould be using Windows15:35
helloworldikonia, I use rinetd on debian/ubuntu to balance, but I want to make it independent on the ISP network troubles.15:36
ikoniahelloworld: you are not making any sense, sorry15:37
mindcatcrouns, http://pastie.org/710021815:37
helloworldikonia, thanks. =)15:37
bmxscott1993hello15:38
LoneTrooperhi, I have Links 2.7 browser and i wonder if its possible to change default font for web pages.15:39
m_Wk1l, so i figured out the packages problem...15:39
k1lm_W: yes?15:39
LoneTrooper:I15:41
goventusjoin #ubuntu-ru15:41
m_Wk1l, I was messing around with proxies last week. It seems there is an issue using a proxy in chrome. So I had to go into chrome and choose None for proxy and click 'Apply System Wide'15:41
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sfoobarcan someone tell me the best way to manage ppa's with a gui in the current ubuntu version?15:41
m_Wk1l, and now it works15:41
bitbytehey does any one here use deluge on ubuntu server 12.1015:42
k1lm_W: ah ok15:42
m_Wk1l, thanks for your help :)15:42
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greg_25bitbyte: me15:43
BluesKajm_W:  google doesn't like proxies , they can't keep track of your movements as easily :)15:43
bitbytegreg_25: did you have any connection issues setting it up ?15:43
m_WBlueEagle, I know right :)15:43
m_Woops lol15:43
m_WBluesKaj, this bug was driving me crazy15:44
brecIf I install 12.04.1 will Software Updates keep it there (.1) or will I end up with 12.04.2?15:44
icerootis "linux-image-generic-lts-quantal the default on 12.04.2 and linux-image-generic is the default on 12.04? i dont know why one of my systems is holding 3.5 and the other 3.215:44
greg_25bitbyte: i don't think so15:44
icerootbrec: 12.04.215:44
k1liceroot: yes15:44
cronusmindcat, maybe try modify an iso entries from the menu.lst that comes from the grub4dos. alternatevely (this is what i do) copy casper directory from cd to the root of a partition and boot with the boot=casper option15:44
brecSigh15:44
k1liceroot: its the lts enablement stack15:44
m_WNow it's time to upgrade to 12.1015:44
* SamuraiAlba runs around the room flapping his arms15:44
greg_25bitbyte: you mean between daemon and web service?15:44
icerootk1l: i think you did not understand my question15:44
SamuraiAlbaGood bacon to all!15:44
LoneTrooperokay how about this... Does anybody knows text based (console) text editor that supports mouse input (dont recommend me to type apt-get search "keywords")15:45
k1lbrec: the 12.04.1 will go to 12.04.2 (besides the kernel upgrades)15:45
k1liceroot: sure i did15:45
bitbytegreg_25: i think so basically when i load up webui none of the connections show online and nothing shows in /var/log/syslog15:45
icerootk1l: then your answer make no sense15:45
k1liceroot: the lts enablement stack is standard on the .2 version15:45
LoneTrooperas far as i know only ranger file manager supports mouse15:45
k1liceroot: if you install .2 version15:45
mindcatcronus, i already did copy casper folder things to boot it15:45
icerootk1l: both systems are running 12.04.2 one was installed with 12.04 and one was installed with 12.04.2 and they have different kernel-meta-packages15:45
mindcatcronus, oh15:46
k1liceroot: see what i wrote above15:46
brecSo if I want to sata15:46
icerootk1l: that is very strange why 12.04.2 is acting different15:46
k1liceroot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack15:46
saispnanyone uses web2py python framework here?15:46
icerootk1l: imo there should be no difference when using 12.04.0 or 12.04.2 when i dist-upgrade both to 12.04.2 latest version15:46
icerootk1l: but ok, thank you for the info15:47
k1liceroot: you can upgrade to the 3.5 kernel when installed from 12.04 but you are not forced to15:47
ronillonhi, i would like to setup share between two computers, debian 6.0.7, ubuntu 10.04.4 and ubuntu 12.04. can someone help me?15:47
kostkoniceroot, only new installations get the new kernel stack15:47
k1liceroot: see it that way: there is a new kernel available. you can use it. but you are not forced to15:47
greg_25bitbyte: maybe try changing the port to lets say 899915:47
icerootk1l: thats the job of "backports"15:47
icerootk1l: both systems should be the same15:47
k1liceroot: its a problem with hardware which makes that necessary15:48
brecWhat I really want to do is to stay at Xorg xserver 1.11 and not go to 1.13, so I can use an older AMD/ATI driver. Any way to do that with 12.04?15:48
mindcatcronus, but yes, i did copy casper directory things from ubuntu ISO to harddisk root, and boot it.15:49
LoneTrooperanyone can recommend me good text based applications?15:49
icerootk1l: thank you for the useful infos15:49
k1liceroot: i think its mentioned in the release notes. if you dont want the new kernel in .2 you can go to the standard kernel.15:49
icerootk1l: i dont want different systems in my environment and now i have 12.04.2 with 3.2 and 3.5  so i have to rebuild my vmware packages because they are build for 3.215:50
icerootk1l: and maybe in some month we have linux-image-generic-foobar-lts and so on and i have another system15:51
flophow can I exit from the gui and only use cli?15:51
icerootk1l: also with a newer x-server15:51
luminoushi! I'm trying to install a package but another package is erroring out in it's --configure.. there should be no dependency between the two, so I don't know why this would happen. any insights into how I can just install salt-minion and work around puppet sucking? http://dpaste.de/xOZy7/15:51
cronusmindcat, if there is a file named /casper/filesystem.squashfs then just try booting with just boot=casper (ie without the iso-scan)15:51
mindcatcronus, oh no... sorry15:52
k1liceroot: again: uninstall the quantal kernel and go with the standard kernel is still possible. so you dont have to change your setup15:52
primaloathAfter performing updates (which included linux headers) 15 minutes ago, and restarting, I was met with a perfectly fine login screen, but afterwards, the toolbar and left-hand menu disappeared. I could start a terminal and had a working mouse cursor.15:52
mindcatcronus, now i going boot again now15:52
icerootk1l: i know its not that hard to change that but i dont like the fact that there will be a difference when i install with 12.04.0 or 12.04.215:53
cronusmindcat, goot luck15:53
cronusmindcat, *good15:53
primaloathI am using 12.10. I tried "dconf reset -f /org/compiz/" as advised, but compiz crashed in the middle of this procedure.15:53
k1lprimaloath: are the headers  for your kernel installed and is the video driver installed properly?15:53
primaloathLikewise for "setsid unity".15:53
mindcatcronus, :D15:53
ed8_hi, how do I use remmina to connect with VNC on DISPLAY :1 ?15:54
primaloathk1l: I had installed my video driver a month ago. The background is rendering, so I'm not sure if that's the issue. I don't know whether the kernel headers were installed (I'm not even sure what kernel headers contain).15:55
k1lprimaloath: the kernel headers are needed for prop. driver to build the module for the kernel. so if there is a problem with that there is no video driver modul and that will cause problems after login. missing headers is quite a common problem of this15:56
primaloathk1l: I'll see if I can find out whether they were installed. Is there a log of what was downloaded and installed when I last updateed?15:58
wabashWhat's the best place to get ubuntu release keys?16:00
wabashgpg keys16:00
tukangledenghi16:00
tukangledenganybody16:00
tukangledengi have problem with vpn16:00
tukangledengopenvpn16:00
tukangledengopenvpn runing so slow16:00
tukangledengany suggest16:00
primaloathk1l: In any event, thanks for the information.16:01
k1lprimaloath: just see your kernel with "uname -a" and see if the linux-headers package is installed for that16:01
primaloathk1l: Thanks. I'll try that.16:01
nicknamenotfoundneed help creating a win7bootableUSB from ubuntu16:01
k1lnicknamenotfound: howto boot win7 from usb is a windows support issue. not an ubuntu one.16:03
greg_25nicknamenotfound: maybe burning an iso would be the easiest16:03
johnnyborgtry linux live usb creator16:04
roland-hello what is the latest version of ubuntu running gnome 216:06
greg_25roland-: maybe its better to look after mate or cinnamon16:07
k1lroland-: 11.04. but thats not supported anymore16:07
k1lroland-: i would suggest to take a look at xubuntu or lubuntu16:08
mindcatcronus, bad news, now it tell me "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system."16:08
rocktopis there some one familiar with pure-ftpd ?16:10
grimroghello16:13
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cronusmindcat, it seems linux cannot see your drive. there is a boot option to get a busybox in initrd to see if you can mount it. i'll see if i can find it16:14
grimrogi use ream speak 3 and maouse a4tech x710 extra fire and ts3 not detected side buttons my mouse16:14
grimroghow to make them work16:15
nicknamenotfoundanother question, is it possible to remove all "task"icons from xfce panel, so it only displays text ?16:18
cronusmindcat, break=casper-bottom16:19
nullchapterhello16:20
bmxscott1993is there a program like imesh for ubuntu16:21
ronillonpls, how do i setup network sharing?16:23
cronusronillon, have you tried selecting shared to other computers in the network manager?16:26
ronillonno, where do i find that?16:27
xomniverseI am running an Ubuntu 12.10 minimal install, and I installed Openbox as my window manager and LXAppearance to change some of the settings, but LXAppearance doesn't actually save any of the changes I make in it for some reason16:27
cronusronillon, in the ipv4 settings > method16:28
stupidBYdefaulthello.. i need an update fix..16:29
stupidBYdefaultsudo apt-get upgrade16:29
cronusronillon, select it for the interface that is connected to the internal network (not the one connected to the internet)16:29
stupidBYdefaultsudo apt-get update -> says :16:30
stupidBYdefaultW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages)16:30
ronilloncronus: hey forget that i have no idea what you are talking about16:30
_jayKind of a stupid question, I uninstalled Thunderbird via synaptic yet the .thunderbird folder is still in my home folder (as are other app's dot folders) Is it ok just to delete it? I assume evolution, which I use, doesn't touch this? There is no .evolution folder, that's why I ask, and the T-bird is huge, 1.8 GB.16:30
hXmhello, i think i got hacked or something, watching the source code of my html testing i see this http://cl.ly/NoJt but if i make grep -Ri i cant see any of those urls in my system, what can i do?16:31
wabashI'm trying to download and burn the 12.10 iso. Is this DVD only? Or is it also CD?16:31
_jayI should specify that other uninstalled apps dot folders still exist as well.16:31
surio1Quick question.. So from 12.10 onwards Unity 2D is not available at all?16:32
cronusronillon, this may be more clear https://jeremy.visser.name/2009/03/simple-internet-connection-sharing-with-networkmanager/ (sorry for not being clear)16:32
johnnyborg_jay: in this folder there are configurations and your downloaded mail, if you are okay with deleting it, it okay to do so16:33
primaloathk1l: I checked with "dpkg -s". The linux-header files of the appropriate version (3.5.0-26-42) had already been installed.16:33
_jayThanks johnny, I'm curious if this is the directory that evolution is referencing, since there is no .evolution folder16:34
surio1From 12.10 onwards Unity 2D is not available at all?16:34
primaloathTo everyone else, any idea why ubuntu 12.0 displays no GUI (except for the wallpaper) after login, even though I can start terminals just fine?16:35
Fyodorovnasurio1, Not sure when removed exactly but it is no more.16:36
auronandacesurio1: correct16:36
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surio1Not even on 32bit?16:36
wilee-nileesurio1, lol not even in your wildest dreams.16:37
auronandacesurio1: its gone16:37
surio1:/:-/16:37
surio1I get it!16:38
surio1OK.16:38
_jayah it seems evolution tucked them away in the later versions, solved :)16:38
wilee-nileesurio1, Your now in my ignore OK.16:38
wilee-nilee;)16:39
wanglei,,,16:39
surio1? Huh? What'd I say wrong?16:39
wangleino16:39
hXmplease can someone redirect me to the correct place for ask about security issues?16:40
onesockthiefhey16:41
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man_Hi, when I start Chrome through a keyboard combination, the window does not get focus16:41
anon010I have just prepared a laptop with Kubuntu 12.10 for a friend of mine who will leave the country for good. He is a first day Linux newbie. Where do I set Kubuntu to automatically install all updates, new kernels, etc automatically without prompting?16:41
man_What can I do about that? If I start it from the unity launcher, it works16:41
bmxscott1993wilee-nilee it was the iso proplem with the screen and hat to make a new copy of the on a dvd cd and got the new iso cus i had the old one so i did it on a wr so it can be clear and it work16:41
onesockthiefquit16:42
wilee-nileebmxscott1993, Cool, I forget the exact problems, glad you found the problem.16:42
bmxscott1993yer16:42
ronilloncronus: yay, my bad, this wasnt what i wanted. i did not expressed myself right. i need share files between two PCs16:42
bmxscott1993used my brother wr disc with out him nowing16:43
bmxscott1993and put it on a dvd wr16:43
wilee-nileebmxscott1993, Ah, I can remember now the funky startup.16:43
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bmxscott1993yer16:43
wilee-nileebmxscott1993, I wondered if you had fallen off the bike to many times without a helmet, lol. ;)16:44
bmxscott1993but i when on the web site the ubuntu one and it say copy it to a dvd not cd16:44
bmxscott1993lol16:44
wilee-nileebmxscott1993, I say that as a head injury survivor.16:45
ronillonjust curious, what is wr disc?16:45
memandronillon: I think he means an RW disc ;)16:45
bmxscott1993and i download the old one when it come out when it was new16:46
ronillonoh i thought its something new lol16:46
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bmxscott1993rw means rewritable16:47
bmxscott1993what anti virus should i get for ubuntu16:50
k1l!antivirus | bmxscott199316:50
ubottubmxscott1993: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus16:50
bmxscott1993ok thank16:50
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starkillerhello16:52
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peccscreen turns off every 5 mins unless I keep active, have set "suspend when inactive" to 1 hour and "shut down screen when inactive" to 30 min via System Settings (running 12.10)16:53
bmxscott1993is it safe to run a anti virus one Ubuntu and windows with out clashing together16:53
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wilee-nileebmxscott1993, They are two separate systems MS and ubuntu so no problems there.16:56
ronillonpacc: did you set it in the Brightness and Lock part?16:56
Guest2794How can I play DVDs Ubuntu? Do I need a special software?16:56
peccronillon: right there, and before you ask I have rebooted16:56
bmxscott1993ok16:57
bmxscott1993good to no16:57
wilee-nileebmxscott1993, windows wont even read ext type partitions basically, other then with problematic 3rd party apps.16:57
Guest2794That is, I have Dragon Player but it doesn't want to work16:57
TraNGuest2794: did you try using vlc?16:59
jrtappersGuest2794, I find VLC good for DVDs16:59
TraN:p16:59
bmxscott1993yer16:59
Guest2794What do you think about MPlayer?16:59
ronillonpecc: another place might be a scrensaver. but i cannot find it in the new unity-stupid-thing17:00
Guest2794I have recalled that I used it extensively a long time ago but from that time the things could change...17:00
wilee-nileeGuest2794, some disc readers unlike vlc do not have the codecs needed built in you can install the restricted-extras for the desktop you are running if needed..17:00
jrtappersGuest2794, VLC is GUI, and also simpler to use17:01
ExilepilotHow do you change the amount of workspaces? (12.10)17:01
icedwaterHi folks, what is the lightest web-browser you would recommend? :)17:01
wilee-nileeExilepilot, Amount of work space, what do you mean exactly?17:01
icedwaterI think surf is a little too light for my tastes but I might stick to it... trying xxxterm now :)17:01
jrtappersicedwater, How light? Links2? Chromium?17:01
icedwaterjrtappers: lighter, far lighter. :P17:02
icedwaterChromium is actually bulkier on the disk space than Firefox.17:02
jrtappersicedwater, How light do you need?17:03
Guest2794BTW, my Ubuntu complains that the battery capacity is equal only about 26%. I am not sure if I should take that warning seriously, but17:03
Exilepilotwilee-nilee: Not the amount of space, the number of virtual workspaces. When you install Ubuntu your default number of workspaces is 4. How do I change that? Like gnome17:03
icedwaterI'm trying to see what I can find. I don't know what I need, but I would like to do as much as possible and take as little space as possible on my 4G USB stick.17:03
Guest2794when I installed Windows it worked very slowly from the very beginning17:03
icedwaterSo I'm just poking around on different options.17:04
Guest2794Ubuntu seems to go with a reasonable speed. Slackware was definitely the fastest.17:04
icedwaterI'm planning to switch back to metacity/gnome2 possibly.17:04
icedwaterI might even use openbox, or try dwm...17:04
uvalaI was running ddrescue on live usb of sysrescuecd. it was interrupted when pc was completely turned off (not gone standby) due to expired battery. now pc restarted, does ddrescue recognize the target drive (where it saves the rescued data) again, and continue from where it broke up??17:04
icedwaterBut it remains to be seen.17:04
wilee-nileeExilepilot, Ah, if it is unity in compiz you may need to install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager17:05
wilee-nileehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion17:05
jrtappersicedwater, How light is the one they use on the Pi?17:05
ExilepilotOkay, I am installing compiz now17:06
jrtappersicedwater, Midori is only 1.1 Mb17:06
wilee-nileeExilepilot, Be careful though in compiz unity is a plugin in it on top of gnome, so you can really mess things up, however you can return to the stock setup with commands.17:06
TraNExilepilot: you could also try MyUnity17:06
jrtappers*After this operation, 3,517 kB of additional disk space will be used17:06
Guest2794how could I know where my DVD disk has been mounted?17:06
ronillonwilee-nilee: i wonder why is configuration utility not included by default. its the same like with gparted, its available on liveCD, but not after install17:06
jrtappersGuest2794, should be /dev/dvd17:07
wilee-nileeronillon, compiz is not real tricky, but some wil just go in a mess with it and brick their desktop, can be fixed but frustrating for the novice is probably why.17:08
icedwaterjrtappers: Tried midori before, but it's not too bad. Try xxxterm, it looks all right for simple browsing so far.17:08
MartynKeigherhey all...i edited my ip config according to this guide... http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/ and im not able able to resolve google.com. i DID make sure i restarted my network services!17:08
cronusuvala, if you have a log file you can run the same command and ddrescue will continue from where it was interrupted17:09
Guest2794Hm, Mplayer has failed, it simply refuses to play movies from dvd17:09
cronusuvala, /have/used/17:09
wilee-nileeronillon, Personally I stopped using unity a while back I like it but find gnome 3 nicer.17:09
jrtappersMartynKeigher, Try pinging 127.0.0.1 and gateway17:09
ronillonyou have got a point there. on the other hand, its frustrating having to install it when one wants to make changes. it is this new path ubuntu went. i dont like it at all17:09
k1lGuest2794: codecs and anti-copy-stuff installed?17:10
ExilepilotTraN: Could you tell me what repository that's on? I've tried to install that before.17:10
TraNExilepilot: look here: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-My-Unity-Configuration-Tool-on-Ubuntu-11.1017:10
Guest73693I cannot mount a nfs4 partition with FSTAB even though i am following the instructions. COuld please somebody help?17:11
wilee-nileeronillon, Recently the releases have gotten bigger then a cd will hold that may be part of it to, I would not just use a confirmation bias to analyze the reasons, save yourself the hassle. ;)17:11
ronillonwilee-nilee: unity seems nice, but i hate things like: you cannot move unity panel to the right side of the screen, nor change its size17:11
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ExilepilotTraN: Is this compatible with 12.10?17:11
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Guest2794I guess that they are, as far as I remember MPlayer installs a huge collection of codecs by default, though I am not sure, but I don't know too much about anti-copy-stuff17:11
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danielboston26i am having a problem i am trying to install latest version of ubuntu on my asus q500a when it first boots up i get an error saying unsupported image then when i try to load the installer nothing happens17:12
MartynKeigherjrtappers: both the gateway (192.168.10.101) and 127.0.0.1 ping fine!17:12
danielboston26i tried installing the 64bit ubuntu could not be the issue?17:12
ronillonwilee-nilee: to be honest 10.04 was the last release i liked. it goes down the hill since then for me17:12
MartynKeigherthe ip of my server is 192.168.10.16517:12
peccronnillon: right, screensavers exist. I'll look into it.17:12
TraNSorry, I dont use 12.10, I run it on 12.04, thats all I can say.. but it should work..17:12
MartynKeigheri get ping: unknown host www.google.com17:12
MartynKeighermy name servers are set to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.417:13
k1lGuest2794: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs17:13
peccronillon: 12.04 -> doesn't have screensaver function natively17:13
mika__It's possible to change XFCE interface to Gnome on Ubuntu Studio 12.04 ?17:13
jrtappersMartynKeigher, Try pinging a machine on the network by name17:13
Guest2794Thank you very much, it can be something with this, as MPlayer complains something about encryption17:13
MartynKeigherif i set it to my router (192.168.10.101) is also get the same results. but i know im online! ;)17:13
danielboston26hello17:13
danielboston26can someone help?17:13
SwedeMikehow can I see a changelog between 12.04 kernel 3.2.0-38 and 3.2.0-39 ? I'd like to see the stable patches that was applied between these versions17:14
ronillonpecc: i have no idea then17:14
MartynKeigherjrtappers: Name does NOT work. IP works fine!17:14
jrtappersMartynKeigher, Try pinging this address: 173.194.34.16017:14
k1lSwedeMike: on packages.ubuntu.com are the changelogs listed to the specific packages17:14
danielboston26hello?17:14
wilee-nileedanielboston26, Did that computer come with Windows 8 perchance?17:14
danielboston26wilee-nilee, it did17:14
danielboston26is that the problem?17:15
uvalacronus, I dont know if I used a log file. I think I didnt. if I did, there must have been the word "logfile" in the command line, right?17:15
jrtappersMartynKeigher, Try using your router/gateway IP for DNS server17:15
MartynKeigherjrtappers: I get a response!17:15
MartynKeigherwill do i'll edit the conf again17:15
MartynKeigherbk in 217:15
wilee-nileedanielboston26, Hehe welcome to UEFI,  here are two links  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI17:16
cronusuvala, iirc ddrescue <source> <destination> <logfile>17:16
danielboston26wilee-nilee, so ubuntu doesn't support it yet?17:16
uvalacronus, I followed a video tutorial, in that it was started only with this command: ddrescue /dev/sda mnt/c.img17:16
wilee-nileedanielboston26, Read the links.17:17
TraNExilepilot: forget what I said, it seems like it wont work in 12.10.. sorry about that.. Go with compizconfig..17:17
danielboston26wilee-nilee, mac has had efi for awhile now17:17
uvalacronus, so I have only a c.img file in the destination drive17:17
cronusSwedeMike, try apt-get changelog linux-image-3.2.0-39-generic17:17
stupidBYdefaultpppZero, are u herE?17:17
peccronillon: ok I threw some words in a search engine and found dconf where I should fiddle around with "power" settings... now, to find where those are...17:17
k1ldanielboston26: the problem on efi with windows is, that it comes with secureboot17:18
wilee-nileedanielboston26, It is not just the gpt part but a boot app.17:18
danielboston26i see17:18
peccronillon: silly me, it's behind Org -> Gnome -> Desktop -> Screensaver (shouldn17:18
danielboston26does anyone know if another version of linux supports it?17:18
peccronillon: silly me, it's behind Org -> Gnome -> Desktop -> Screensaver (shouldn't type before I think :P)17:18
cronusuvala, then i don't think you can resume the copy process.17:18
k1ldanielboston26: read the links above17:18
jk_danielboston26, Win8 added "Secure Boot" on top of UEFI. The 12.04 LTS distro does not support this, but 12.10 does.17:18
wilee-nileedanielboston26, There is excellent help on this if you need it at the ubuntu forums as well, you may have it figured out though. ;)17:18
inashdeenhi there. I need some help. I am not a power user. Me and my friends, we are all sharing the same dsl cable for internet connection. They are running on windows 7, I am using ubuntu 12.04. I want to creater a common folder where me and my friends could share files between each other on this DSL cable. How should I do it. I had install samba17:19
SwedeMikek1l / cronus: thanks, both those worked.17:19
danielboston26jk_, i am using 12.1017:19
jrtappersinashdeen, Which one wil be the server17:19
ronillonpecc: good for you17:19
inashdeenI don't mind my computer ( the ubuntu) to become the server17:19
TraNIs there any way I can hide the tab with recent files and downloads in the dash? (12.04)17:20
inashdeenjrtappers : I don't mind my computer ( the ubuntu) to become the server17:20
jk_danielboston26, Check out the Ubuntu forums; the installer package for 12.10 does not recognize the Win8 setup properly and this may be your problem.17:20
danielboston26i see17:20
uvalacronus, does ddrescue at least not recognize the paths of the drive that it already covered?17:20
jrtappersinashdeen, Ok17:21
danielboston26jk_, do you know of another linux os that will?17:21
cronusuvala, ddrescue writes what is covered to a logfile. the reason because it cannot continue is that it does not use a linear approach to copying, as dd does17:22
jk_danielboston26, Unfoirtunately no; I've only used Xubuntu since 2007 except for a bit of testing with Debian squeeze, in a VM. There's lots of discussion of the problems in the Ubuntu forums, though, and most folk do get it to work rather easily.17:22
cronusuvala, and without that log file it is impossible to guess it.17:23
wilee-nileeTraN, Not exactly what your looking for, however I use the save no history myself. http://askubuntu.com/questions/92733/how-can-i-disable-recent-documents-in-unity17:23
uvalacronus, when I use the command you mentioned above, I get an error saying "zsh: command not found: iirc17:23
danielboston26jk_, can i get a link?17:23
jrtappersinashdeen, It may be easier to set one of the other computers as the server, using shared folders on windows, then accessing it from the others17:23
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cronusuvala, how did you run ddrescue the first time?17:23
inashdeenjrtappers : ok, how do i set it17:24
jk_danielboston26, wilee-nilee gave a couple a bit earlier: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting is one of them.17:24
wilee-nileeTraN, the record no activity to be succinct.17:24
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MartynKeigherjrtappers: OK. done. but still no ping17:25
anon010I just created a new user on Kubuntu 12.10 and gave him root rights. The user can not log in. After I enter the password, the password seems to be accepted, the screen goes black for 1 second and then I can see the KDE login screen again.17:25
uvala cronus, I applied following commands: 1) fdisk -l  2) mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt 3) ddrescue /dev/sda mnt/c.img     and then it started the process17:25
jrtappersinashdeen, do you need passwords to login?17:25
mrmcgibby1Looking for recommendations for a firewall distro.  Thoughts?17:26
inashdeenjrtappers : i do17:26
anon010Also, the user does not have a home dir.17:26
TraNwilee-nilee: no, not exactly what I was looking for, but a step in that direction, thanks for the efforts.. To me, that tab feels very much like a waste of time every time im going to launch an app, because I have to first switch to the apps list.. :)17:26
wilee-nileeTraN, I think removing it would be a hack.17:26
anon010Any idea?17:27
icedwaterDo you guys happen to know how I can set program x as an alternative for update-alternatives?17:27
danielboston26this one is specific to my issue17:27
danielboston26http://askubuntu.com/questions/207990/asus-q500a-will-not-boot-from-live-dvd17:27
cronusuvala, try 3) cd /mnt 4) ddrescue /dev/sda c.img c.log17:27
MartynKeigherhere are my interaces..... http://pastebin.com/jaqRGnMa17:27
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icedwaterFor instance, say I want to use xxxterm as my browser, but only /usr/bin/surf provides /usr/bin/x-www-browser.17:27
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TraNwilee-nilee: probably. wouldnt mind that either though, since I really dont need that particular piece of menu17:27
icedwaterIs there a way to change that somehow..?17:27
MartynKeigheri changes my dns servers to be 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 and still not pinging google17:28
Guest2794Hm, I have just discovered that my laptop (to be more precise, KUbuntu) detects wirless networks available in that area17:28
jrtappersinashdeen, Go on one of the windows computers and share the folder17:28
MartynKeigheri CAN ping it just fine on my PC thats on the same subnet/LAN17:28
Guest2794That means that my wireless card is set up properly, doesn't it?17:28
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Guest2794Although I can't still connect my network17:28
wilee-nilee!details | Guest279417:29
ubottuGuest2794: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."17:29
uvalacronus, I did, and it started again, it is very fast now, (already 1.5GB covered)17:29
mustmodify_I'm running Ubuntu, server config. I want to use the connected monitor to show heads-up charts via Firefox... so I need a very-light-weight gui or whatever for that. Any suggestions? I use this machine for lots of dev work and want to keep as many resources for that as possible.17:29
jrtappersinashdeen, Il just see if there is an easier way17:29
uvalacronus, maybe it is going through already covered parts17:29
inashdeenjrtappers : I am trying to make the ubuntu as a server by the way. Am reading way to write on samba.conf17:30
uvalacronus, there is also this standard expression shown "copying non-tried blocks..." maybe it is really moving straight onto the uncovered parts17:30
uvala?17:30
cronusuvala, i think it will do it all over again. the advantage is that if you loose power you can resume from where it stopped since you have a logfile.17:30
uvalacronus, even it started from the beginning, it is really a lot faster. maybe it is because of the command you gave me. it will soon reach where it was interrupted17:31
MartynKeigherFIXED iT!17:31
jrtappersinashdeen, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/17:31
uvalacronus, it had rescued 5.3.GB, it is now already at 4.3GB17:32
cronusuvala, i'm pretty sure it won't continue from where it stopped. sorry17:32
cronusuvala, you probably have a fast disk17:32
uvalacronus, no it will not, I mean to say that this will not be a problem.17:32
TraNany other suggestions on a way to remove the tab with recent files and downloads from the dash in 12.04?17:33
uvalacronus, the first session took 4-5 hours to rescue 5.3GB, it is now already at 4.3GB in 5 minutes17:33
uvalacronus, I've been using the same disk in both17:33
Guest2794There is an icon on the right side of the taskbar, when one click it then it shows the wireless networks available17:34
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subz3r0do i still need the lubuntu alternate cd for encrypting the whole disk with luks(lvm)17:34
killerwhere does google chrome stores historry(as in a folder) in ubuntu17:34
uvalacronus, it is good not to have to wait 4-5 hours again to get to same point, thank you very much, you helped me a lot!17:35
cronusuvala, maybe you're right then. i am curious to see if this speed drops.17:35
subz3r0killer: should be something like .chrome @home dir17:35
wilee-nileesubz3r0, The alternate is not around anymore.17:35
killersubz3r0: nope17:35
Guest2794When I click on my network it seems to want to do its job, but it wants password, what is the password (is it WPA key?)17:35
uvalacronus, :)) it did drop, actually. it slowed down for the last 2-3 min, moving only 150MB17:35
subz3r0wilee-nilee: ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-amd64.iso17:35
escott_Guest2794, yes17:36
avrelaunHi, I've got a problem on a thinkpad edge laptop running 12.1017:36
Guest2794Hm, strange17:36
Guest2794Not connected still17:36
subz3r0wilee-nilee: there is also a lubuntu alternate... so no idea if i need it to encrypt the whole disk17:36
avrelaunafter resuming from suspend, it can't connect to a known wifi network17:36
dr_willisisent wpa like  considered  unsafe?17:36
cronusuvala, that's good to know. thanks for the info.17:36
subz3r0dr_willis: no its not.17:36
wilee-nileesubz3r0, must be past 12.04,17:37
mustmodify_anyone have experience with openbox?17:37
dr_willismustmodify_: lots of us do17:37
avrelaunI'm thinking suspend isn't done correctly17:37
mustmodify_if I just want to run firefox with a minimum of overhead, will that do it?17:37
dr_willismustmodify_: you dont need a wm at all. ;-)17:37
avrelaunhow can I correct this behaviour ?17:37
mustmodify_I mean from the console17:38
dr_willisopenbox or any wm can work17:38
mustmodify_is openbox a good choice?17:38
uvalacronus, sure :)) I had another question, after the interrupted session I have now this c.img file of 5.3 GB size in my target drive. I dont know how to open this file to get to the recovered files. I guess when the current process is finished I will have the same type of file, could you help me know how?17:38
Erikohola mimecar17:38
mustmodify_I saw it mentioned several places.17:38
mustmodify_but that doesn't make it good. :)17:38
Erikomimecar ayuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuda17:39
dr_willismustmodify_:  openbox  is ok.  your needs may differ.. try it and see17:39
Erikomerda17:39
Erikoaqui no esta17:39
VivekanandaHey everyone . How do I search for a folder / file in the gui way. I had a folder which said ****interviews**.***17:39
Vivekanandaearlier In gnome I had the search option in nautilus but lubuntu 12.04 does not. How to do this ?17:40
DJones!es | Eriko17:40
ubottuEriko: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:40
TraNVivekananda: should be a button, top right in nautilys17:40
TraN*u17:40
VivekanandaTraN: There is but I am on LUbuntu now and pcfman does not17:41
Erikosabia que si decia eso apareceria alguien español17:41
cronusuvala, iirc you should run kpartx -a /mnt/c.img and it creates entries in /dev/mapper for the partitions (ie /dev/mapper/loop0p1). u can use nautilus then to mount these17:41
TraNouch, sorry, was reading too quick.17:41
k1l!english > Eriko17:41
ubottuEriko, please see my private message17:41
uvalaoh, great, thank you so much cronus!17:42
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Vivekanandadr_willis: always a pleasure17:42
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ErikoDJones de que me conoces17:42
cronusuvala, me too.17:42
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Guest60206In the future, if somebody has problems with wireless, perhaps it will be enough to say to click that icon of wireless networks on the taskbar - when wireless network is disconnected it is not easy to figure out at once that  that icon refers to wireless network17:45
avrelaunI tried adding SUSPEND_MODULES=rtl8192ce to my pm config17:47
mustmodify_I must be doing this wrong. `xinit openbox-session` says "xinit: uable to run server "X": no such file or directory" ...17:47
mustmodify_shouldn't apt-get have installed that dependency for me?17:47
mustmodify_xorg17:47
k-stzmy grub shows many ubuntu kernels all added over time through update... The update today "broke" my system. now the top entry in grub 2.6.46 graphics doesn't work but 2.6.45 does. How can I remove the top broken entry from grub?17:48
k1lmustmodify_: why not using a *dm, like lightdm or lxdm?17:49
mustmodify_I just want to show firefox instead of an unused terminal, and use it as a heads-up display. I have no idea what program to use -- just want something light-weight.17:50
mustmodify_sorry, I accidentally closed the window.17:51
wilee-nileek-stz, What release are you running?17:51
mustmodify_k1l: what do you recommend?17:51
cronusmustmodify_, i just checked dependencies and it seems that xinit recommends but not requires xserver-xorg17:51
k-stzwilee-nilee: 10.04 lts17:51
wilee-nileek-stz, You can look in synaptic for the kernel.17:52
wilee-nileeonly one more month of support for the dektop however k-stz17:52
wilee-nileedesktop version17:53
mustmodify_cronus: interesting, thanks.17:53
k-stzwilee-nilee: can't be helped, 2.6 supports my wlan natively :(17:53
Pheediphow is the support for built in 3G modems in ubuntu? thinking of getting a laptop with one built in17:54
ikoniaPheedip: depends on the chip17:54
PheedipI think it's a Qualcomm Goobi200 chip17:56
PheedipGobi*17:56
Pheedipyeah its a Qualcomm Gobi 2000 chip17:57
ikoniaPheedip: so research that chip and linux support17:57
junkUnable to login18:02
junkGetting Freeze at Login18:02
primaloathThis may be a stupid question, but is there any way to reinstall ubuntu 12.0 from within ubuntu itself?18:03
davangeranyone has gotten openvas working on 12.10?18:04
wilee-nileeprimaloath, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Booting_an_ISO_from_a_Menuentry18:05
primaloathwilee-nilee, Thanks!18:05
davangergsad doesnt work for me...18:05
wilee-nileeprimaloath, no problem. ;)18:05
DX099hello, I would like to know if I could right now choose the 13.04 repos18:06
DX099in my 12.10 install ?18:06
wilee-nileeDX099, an upgrade?18:06
wilee-nileeDX099, 13.04 is not a full release, the general advice is to not run it as main OS.18:08
danielboston26hello i am now having a issue my keyboard is not working18:09
danielboston26i have a asus q500a18:09
danielboston26is there a driver or something wrong?18:09
DX099wilee-nilee, ok18:09
DX099wilee-nilee, but is it really unstable-buggy right now ?18:10
wilee-nileeDX099, I have it dual booted with no problems, however I rarely use it, so I can't really say. It is a matter of what can you afford to lose if it goes bad, and are you skilled enough to fix it or at least be backed up.18:11
danielboston26hello?? does anyone know my issue?18:12
DX099wilee-nilee, alright18:12
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subz3r0wilee-nilee: lubuntu-12.10-alternate-amd64.iso  ? ;) so past 12.10? :p18:13
wilee-nileesubz3r0,  believe so if you google alternate Ubuntu now shows the net install  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads18:15
akhil_Hey!! I have a small question. How can we change the size of desktop icons?18:16
akhil_in ubuntu 12.0418:16
wilee-nileesubz3r0, The net install I would think has the luks option.18:16
danielboston26hello??18:16
wilee-nileeakhil_, Right click icon-resize18:16
meetis there anyway I can make the notifications in 12.04 more interactive?18:16
akhil_<wilee-nilee>No,I want to change the size of each icon at once18:17
wilee-nileedanielboston26, With a net search on that computer I found 3 hits none relative, if someone knows here they will answer likely.18:17
wilee-nileeakhil_, Never seen one other then changing the resolution.18:18
danielboston26wilee-nilee, ya there something seem to be a answer18:18
akhil_<wilee-nilee>:then how do you change the resolution?18:18
subz3r0wilee-nilee: thanks. But the 12.10 has cryptsetup and lvm2 included as well :)18:18
subz3r0now lets cross the fingers that everything works well... :/18:19
codepython777I have user1, user2, ... I need to start a process /user on my machine at boot not as root, but as user, and redirect the output to the home directory of each user for this process. What is the right way to do this?18:20
wilee-nileeakhil_, type resolution in the dash if you're running unity18:20
akhil_ok got it thans anyways18:20
escott_codepython777, with su in rc.local18:20
wilee-nileeit will change the whole desktop, I doubt it is the answer for your needs18:21
codepython777escott_: so -> su user1; /home/user1/startprocess > ... 2>&1 -- something like this?18:21
dr_willissu user -c command18:22
dr_willisi think18:23
escott_codepython777, easiest to su -c /some/script and have the redirection in the script (remember the redirection happens in the enclosing sh shell18:23
hidnshadowsHey guys, I think I pulled a stupid18:24
akhil_Hey!! I just installed gnome-system-tools but i don't know where to find and run it.Can anyone please help me?18:24
hidnshadowsI tried installing a package from the web (which I'm really new to) and got frustrated, so I just ended up adding a repo and geting the CLI form of the program. Now I get the message "nautilus-sendto ppp libglib2.0-0 isc-dhcp-client nautilus gnome-icon-theme-symbolic"18:25
hidnshadowsI have the feeling it's an easy fix, but for the life of me I can't remember where to look18:26
tyrogHi everyone. How to customize Unity in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? Thanks18:26
dr_willistons of tweak tools out there tyrog18:26
dr_willisdepends on what you want18:26
tyrogdr_willis: Which one allows for more customization overall? besides CCSM xD18:27
junkjoin18:27
dr_willisdepends on what you want......18:27
dr_willisccsm is just compiz settings18:28
timmo_ubuntu server 12.10 SATA to SATA files are copying slowly (100KB/s) but hpdarm shows decent drive speeds, and ideas?18:28
tyrogdr_willis: I was talking about the CCSM Unity plugin xD18:29
subz3r0puhh.. got it... was able to mount the lvm :)18:29
wilee-nileetyrog, here is a pdf that seems with a quick glance to have info that may help you. https://frenchfortunecookie.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/ubuntu-12-04-lts-unity-customization-guide-v1-0.pdf18:29
subz3r0whats the filebrowser in lubunt?18:30
subz3r0gksudo thunar?18:30
Belialpcmanfm18:30
subz3r0thanks18:30
hidnshadowsWhat does it mean when apt is saying I have "held packages" and where can I go to clear them?18:31
escott_!pinning | hidnshadows18:32
ubottuhidnshadows: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto18:32
wilee-nileehidnshadows, Generally it is apps available without all the packages present, usually fixed over a short time. Naming the specif held might be helpful, post the terminal output from  a sudo update-grub in pastebin.18:33
wilee-nilee*specific18:33
tyrogwilee-nilee: That is one simply amazing guide. Is there an updated version?18:34
hidnshadowswilee-nilee I just run "sudo update-grub"?18:34
iceroothidnshadows: normally it means you are using "apt-get upgrade" instead of "apt-get dist-upgrade"18:34
icerootsubz3r0: chromium18:34
wilee-nileeiceroot, Hehe I was hesitant to offer that option without knowing more. ;)18:35
icerootwilee-nilee: :)18:35
subz3r0any reason why i cant access my samba share within "gksudo pcmanfm"? smb://ip doesnt work18:35
icerootsubz3r0: why gksudo?18:35
hidnshadowsiceroot yes, doesn't dist-upgrade upgrade the entire OS? (I haven't messed with CLI linux in a few years)18:35
iceroothidnshadows: no18:35
subz3r0because of the gui?18:36
wilee-nileetyrog, I found it randomly.18:36
iceroot!dist-upgrade | hidnshadows18:36
ubottuhidnshadows: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.18:36
icerootsubz3r0: and why root access?18:36
subz3r0because i crashed my bootloader18:36
subz3r0dualboot18:36
wilee-nileehidnshadows, Run that command in the terminal, copy and paste all the text shown to the pastebin website and pot the address of it here.18:36
hidnshadowsiceroot thanks for enlightening me... I'll be sulking off now :D Thanks18:36
wilee-nilee*put18:36
iceroothidnshadows: you are welcome18:37
subz3r0both encrypted..... so i need to backup my files.... atm im using a live cd, decrypted the disk, put the lvm on its way... so now i want to backup the files18:37
subz3r0without root i cant copy the files...18:37
hXmwhats wrong with grub-install recheck?18:39
hidnshadowswilee-nilee it just output all of the boot images I have on my drive18:39
bekkssubz3r0: SO whats wrong with creating a backup as root?18:39
wilee-nileehidnshadows, Doh I meant sudo apt-get update   my bad. :(18:40
wilee-nileebekks, I would just use clonezilla if you want an image.18:41
subz3r0bekks: well i opened the filebrowser with gksudo... so i can access the files... but i want to backup the files on my other pc. the deal is that smb://ip doesnt work in "pcmanfm" when i do it without gksudo it works, but not possible to backup the files without root rights18:41
hidnshadowswilee-nilee I was going to say... Running that now, I'll have the pastebin for ya shortlee18:41
hidnshadowswilee-nilee shortly* Gah I can't even type today e.e18:41
bekkswilee-nilee: Tell it subz3r0 :)18:42
paolosublimes creatures18:43
wilee-nileebekks, I was wondering why you asked as I recall you are a experienced user.18:44
morrowynhi18:44
Gaming4JChi18:44
morrowyni have the following problem:  ls -l gives: drwxr-xr-x 10 root root    4096 Mar 23 11:41 web1018:45
morrowynmkdir -p web10/app18:45
morrowynmkdir: cannot create directory `web10/app': Permission denied18:45
morrowyni'm doing this as root18:45
Gaming4JCI am trying to run a loop in terminal, but I seem to be doing something wrong. "while : service apache2 restart; do : sleep 12h; done" (restarting a service without cron)18:45
Gaming4JCany suggestions? :)18:46
bekkswilee-nilee: Yeah, but since not reading the full backlog, I just asked whats wrong with that approach for him.18:46
FlannelGaming4JC: Why don't you want to use cron?18:46
eboyblue3Do you guys support PowerPC AND Raring?18:46
Gaming4JCFlannel: easier since I am just testing it18:47
k-stzwilee-nilee: regarding the linux-image, i uninstalled it thorugh synaptic, but it still showed up in grub. But i solved the graphics problem by simple downloading and reinstalling nvidia drivers.18:47
MartynKeigherjust instaleld FTP on my ubunut server using sudo apt-get install vsftpd and i cannot connect using my local username account? i also uncommented anonymous_enable=YES and i can connect anonymously but i cant see the folder structure of my server.18:47
eboyblue3Do you guys support PowerPC AND Raring? (2nd post, did anyone notice me?)18:47
hidnshadowswilee-nilee iceroot http://pastebin.com/Hd4zW0Qf18:47
eboyblue3!powerpc18:48
ubottuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ18:48
wilee-nileek-stz, The kernel has 3 notations in synaptic, the config files are probably still there.18:48
eboyblue3Nope, no bots here18:48
bekks!patience | eboyblue318:48
ubottueboyblue3: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/18:48
eboyblue3:\18:48
eboyblue3!impatient | eboyblue318:49
OerHekseboyblue3, raring is still in Beta, join #ubuntu+1 for support18:49
eboyblue3OK18:50
k-stzeboyblue3 you can google the answer maybe, powerpc is written short as ppc hence: "ubuntu ppc" could be more helpful18:50
Dougie187Anyone know of a good site that has reviews of different version control system hosting sites?18:50
codepython777From rc.local, I do a su user1 -c "/home/user1/myscript" which creates a background process. How can i send a "Ctrl+C" to that process? Or perhaps bring it to foreground?18:50
ikoniaDougie187: not really something this channel deals with18:51
Dougie187ikonia: sorry. Any recommendations on where I should go? :P18:51
hidnshadowscodepython777 try looking it up in the list of system processes?18:51
ikoniaDougie187: no, sorry18:52
escott_codepython777, you would send a kill signal to that PID18:52
codepython777hidnshadows: I did a ps and found it process id.18:52
Dougie187k, thanks.18:52
morrowynnvm found it : chatter -a and -i did the trick :)18:53
codepython777is there a way to list the process tree of a user instead of just ps -u user1 which gives a flat list?18:53
k-stzwilee-nilee: thx, I see the headers now18:53
ikoniacodepython777: pstree ?18:53
cronushello everyone. does anyone know how to start upstart session jobs without login. the documentation says to run init --user, but from where and how? thanks18:53
codepython777ikonia: i need the process ids in the tree18:53
codepython777looking up docs18:53
inashdeenhi there, My computer is running on ubuntu 12.04 and two other friends are running on windows 7. they belong to the workgroup HAUS and we are all connected through dsl cables. my friends laptop, named COMPAQ-PC is the server. on my ubuntu 12.04, I installed samba, opened /etc/samba/smb.conf and had set the workgroup to HAUS. I opened. "Windows Network" in nautilus and could see COMPAQ-PC in the list. but when I click on it, it gav18:53
wilee-nileehidnshadows, you add a source for gnome-icon-theme-symbolic, I don't see it with a quick look but in github? Not really sure from a look at the link18:53
inashdeenfrom server. what did i do wrong?18:54
ikoniacodepython777: "pstree" process in a tree18:54
Gaming4JCDougie187: http://biz30.timedoctor.com/git-mecurial-and-cvs-comparison-of-svn-software/ looks interesting, courtesy DDG - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=comparison+of+subversion+git+hosting18:54
codepython777pstree is nice :)18:54
Dougie187Thanks Gaming4JC18:54
codepython777now i need to send a "Ctrl+C" to a particular process id. kill 1370 does that?18:54
ikoniacodepython777: you should use a signal18:54
subz3r0bekks, wilee-nilee: anyway... i'll do it now with rsync.. :>18:55
escott_codepython777, kill sends a signal so does ctrl-c. kill can send different signals if you want18:55
codepython777ikonia: how? The actual program stops cleanly when Ctrl+C is pressed18:55
ikoniacodepython777: man kill18:55
hidnshadowswilee-nilee I need to add a source? I'm really sorry, but your response doesn't make a lot of sense :/18:56
codepython777ikonia: dont know which signal i should send for ctrl+C18:56
trismcodepython777: ctrl+c is sigint18:56
ikoniacodepython777: if you read the man page I just suggested, you'll see18:56
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wilee-nileehidnshadows, I was just wondering if you had added one to the sources.list or sources.list.d these are where urls are for ubuntu to call for updates. I wondered if you had added one that is conflicting.18:57
hidnshadowswilee-nilee I wouldn't be surprised, this all happened after I added a repo for f.lux a few days ago18:58
codepython777kill -s INT 1370 -- did not work18:58
hidnshadowscodepython777 If you don't care about system stability, or if it's a low-level process, you could just "kill (PID)" if nothing else works18:59
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codepython777hidnshadows: kill PID does not work either. The process is still running18:59
codepython777I tried STOP and TERM as well18:59
hidnshadowswilee-nilee Is there some convenient tool to check for conflicting repos?18:59
escott_codepython777, its probably in a syscall18:59
shomonnhi, how do I create a share using nautilus so it can be seen from elsewhere in my local network?19:00
wilee-nileehidnshadows, Ah a ppa?19:00
codepython777escott_: if i just run it on command line and press ctrl+C it exits cleanly19:00
codepython777but i am currently running it from /etc/rc.local -> su user1 -c "a bash script"19:00
codepython777kill -9 works - but is not clean19:02
wilee-nileehidnshadows, If it was a ppa you added say this one https://launchpad.net/~kilian/+archive/f.lux  did you see this on the page, "You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA"19:02
johntronI can't seem to get quantal server installed. I'm installing from a live USB, and everything goes fine until the end of the "Installing software" part. Then it fails and gives me the installation menu. Here's my syslog from the install: https://gist.github.com/johntron/523224819:03
escott_codepython777, what user are you sending the signal ass?19:03
wilee-nileehidnshadows, However I can't guarantee this is the problem, just a guess looking at the app though19:03
escott_as?19:03
inashdeenhi, I am having a problem connecting to windows server using samba. It keeping on giving Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server . what should I do19:04
codepython777escott_: as the normal user19:04
codepython777user119:04
johntronThere's an error about Python dependencies and "Unable to locate package language-pack-en" – I tried to fix the last one manually, but it didn't seem to help19:05
wilee-nileeinashdeen, Hmm I see precise and efi in that log is this a uefi setup=gpt and fastboot?19:05
escott_codepython777, without more specifics we can't really help19:05
inashdeenwilee-nilee : the what?19:05
Gaming4JCjohntron: I had a similar problem once when packages fail to download during install. Try to install the server offline, then apt-get update/upgrade once installed - might help. It has with me before :)19:06
hidnshadowswilee-nilee I'll try just removing it, it's not even the one that I used in the end.19:06
abh_hi19:06
codepython777escott_: The process I start is a python process. As you suggested, i created a bash script that just starts "python myscript.py > x 2>&1 &"19:06
codepython777escott_: Now i am trying to send Ctrl+c to that python execution19:06
escott_codepython777, like a ps aux output, and the exact kill command you are running19:06
abh_how can i solve this problem: when lightdm starts, it starts only guest session19:06
johntronGaming4JC: good tip, thanks! I'll give it a shot. This is the second time in a row this has happened, so I'm thinking it's something else19:07
shomonnhow do I see a directory shared via nautilus's "sharing options" from another computer on my local network?19:07
escott_shomonn, depends on what OS that other computer runs19:08
Gaming4JCshomonn: is your other computer running Ubuntu too?19:08
shomonnubuntu19:08
wilee-nileeinashdeen, I'm not your best helper here, but you said quantal I see precise in the sources, efi is a gpt setup seen in apple computers and now seen as uefi with the new secure boot commonly called here fast boot, 12.04 wont run in a uefi setup.19:08
shomonnsorry debian19:08
hidnshadowswilee-nilee it's still "some packages have unmet dependencies"19:08
escott_shomonn, i wouldn't use samba to share from unix to unix, but if you do its on the "windows network"19:09
wilee-nileehidnshadows, Not sure really as I said with those errors.19:09
inashdeenwilee-nilee : Errr... I think you are answering to a different person. I was asking bout samba19:09
shomonnwell it was a simple button escott - in nautilus.. so I thought it'd be easy19:09
shomonnwhat is the best way?19:09
wilee-nileeinashdeen, Ah I will look back sorry about that. ;)19:09
shomonnapart from ftp or scp19:09
multipack12.04 does boot on a uefi19:10
Gaming4JCshomonn: LanShark is also an easy solution, but requires some configuring and only works over LAN.19:10
wilee-nileejohntron,  Hmm I see precise and efi in that log is this a uefi setup=gpt and fastboot?19:10
shomonnI do have samba installed19:10
oliverpHelp! I have created a file named "-f", and now I can't delete it! rm -f does not work, because it interprets -f as a parameter. I've tried with " and ' around it, and even backslash, Even rm *f does not work!19:10
shomonnbut nothing in /var/lib/samba/usershares19:10
Mathiasi have a weird "problem" (not really a big problem, but a really annoying one)19:11
escott_oliverp, rm -- -f19:11
hidnshadowswilee-nilee The thing that I'm confused about the most is, why the gnome-icon-theme-symbolic keeps getting brought up. I've never tried to DL that...19:11
oliverpescott_: Thank you!!19:11
Mathiasi have two displays, on one (my tv) text in terminals and xbmc appears green, on the laptop's display everything is normal19:11
johntronwilee-nilee: hmm, it may be, but I'm building it for a bios system19:11
johntronwilee-nilee: maybe I missed some settings when I formatted the drives? I'm trying to build a bootable drive for a non-(u)efi machine using an efi machine19:12
hidnshadowswilee-nilee I found the problem repo, everything seems to be in order now19:13
hidnshadowswilee-nilee iceroot thanks for the help guys!19:13
johntronit fails before I get to installing grub, but the partition table scheme may be wrong19:13
wilee-nileejohntron, you said quantal I see precise in the sources, efi is a gpt setup seen in apple computers and now seen as uefi with the new secure boot commonly called here fast boot, 12.04 wont run in a uefi setup. I doubt I can really be of any help I just noticed these notations in your log.19:13
wilee-nileehidnshadows, Cool. ;)19:14
escott_johntron, the installer will note /sys/firmware/efi and try to set things up correctly for efi which will be incorrect for bios19:14
multipackwilee-nilee, i am using 12.04  on a uefi machine, why do you keep saying it wont run?19:14
johntronwilee-nilee: my previous attempt was Precise, but this is definitely a Quetzal image: https://gist.github.com/johntron/5232248#file-gistfile1-txt-L103519:15
tiimox##hi all19:15
Gaming4JChi19:15
wilee-nileemultipack, Not sure why, I am avoiding uefi until needed, but the shim for the fastboot I believe is not in 12.0419:15
johntronescott_: ahh, ok. is there anything I can do?19:15
multipackyou need to set a efi partition19:16
multipackaround about 200MB then install as normal19:16
johntronbut the target system is not efi19:16
user__Hello,  I seem have to have a small issue with Xubuntu. I had my battery display working fine the other day, but now it is not appearing. I have checked under settings and I have it set to always show :/19:16
wilee-nileemultipack, I'm glad it works for you, I have just seen the people I know who know say this, I had thought it was true.19:17
multipackit needs to be done in an expert setup rather than just a normal install19:17
bynwI'm having trouble witha  process that wont quit properly. it runs in the command line and normally ctrl-c should close it just fine. but it keeps running. killall doesnt stop it. kill PID doesnt stop it. kill -9 (or -15 or any other number) doesnt do it. kill -9 -1 also will not work. right now only rebooting seems to kill it off. anything else i can try?19:17
escott_johntron, its not going to be easy. it is possible to have bios boot a gpt disk. so thats probably the best approach. do the setup for efi, then chroot in, remove the efi partition, add a grub_bios partition. remove grub-efi and install the grub bios19:17
multipackit took me a while to figure it out19:17
johntronescott_: yeah, i was afraid of that. ok19:17
abh_how is possible to have ligthdm starts with only guest session?19:17
ikoniabynw: if kill -9 does not kill it, it is zombying19:18
tiimoxhow can i use my gtv 5668 decorder to watch fta channels, am in kenya19:18
johntronthis would be so much easier if I had another sata port or a target that can boot from usb :\19:18
bynwikonia: no bullets to the head for a zombie?19:19
ikoniabynw: what is the process ?19:20
escott_bynw, zombies are already dead. can't kill dead processes19:20
wilee-nileemultipack, Did you use a other release to do this a 3rd party ubuntu setup like this  Linux-Secure-Remix, just curious19:20
mad_enzbynw has been watching too much walking dead19:20
bynwits webcam ... but it wont restart with the zombie out there19:20
ikoniabynw: which software19:21
bynwwebcam is the software name19:22
ikoniabynw: where did you get it19:23
escott_bynw, if the problem originated in the kernel driver for the card then removing the module and reloading it might reset the hardware19:23
bynwiknoia ... apt-get19:23
ikoniabynw: ok, so is it currently running now ?19:23
bynwits a zombie now19:23
ikoniabynw: can you please type "ps -ef | grep webcam" and pastebin the output please.19:24
hamidddddddhi internet is feltered here how can i pass the filtering19:24
ikoniahamiddddddd: you don't19:24
ikoniahamiddddddd: you comply with your hosts filtering19:24
Gaming4JC!package | tor hamiddddddd19:24
ubottutor hamiddddddd: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 30000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!19:24
ikoniaGaming4JC: how is that helpful ?19:24
Gaming4JC!package tor |  hamiddddddd19:24
Gaming4JCtor package19:25
Gaming4JCvery helpful19:25
Gaming4JC:)19:25
hamidddddddGaming4JC: i have tor but not working can u help me with it19:25
tux_!package vrms19:25
ikonia !package is not a valid bot command19:25
ubottuBut package already means something else!19:26
Seveas!info vrms19:26
ubottuvrms (source: vrms): virtual Richard M. Stallman. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16 (quantal), package size 11 kB, installed size 77 kB19:26
ikoniaI never knew that's what it stood fore19:26
ikoniafor19:26
bynwikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644228/19:26
tux_haha ;)19:26
ikoniabynw: ok - so please do "kill -9 2468"19:27
ikoniabynw: then re-run ps -ef | grep webcam19:27
ikoniabynw: (please put the output in a pastebin again)19:27
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bynwikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644241/19:29
ikoniabynw: ok, so if you type "top" to you see any "zombie" in the top right19:30
B|asterhey I am reading about dual booting windows and ubuntu, and in the directions here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot) it says to burn an ISO of LiveCD and I am wondering why to use LiveCD?  I want to install onto a partion of my HDD, not have to keep a CD in the drive.19:30
ikoniabynw: (FYI: sudo su is not good)19:30
bynwikonia: yep 1 zombie19:31
ikoniabynw: ok, that's good, so there is the problem19:31
ikoniabynw: (or at least confirmation)19:31
inashdeenI have gone nearly crazy trying to connect to my friend's windows server using samba. when I open nautilus, I can see my friends PC (COMPAQ-PC) in "windows network". but when I click on it, it says " Failed to retrieve share list from server" . :( how do I fix this. I really need it today. I am using ubuntu 12.0419:32
jhutchins_wkB|aster: There are a number of ways to do it, the live CD is probably the easisest, but the netinstall image is also a good way to go.19:32
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B|asterjhutchins_wk:  Does the live CD actually install itself to the HDD ?19:33
jhutchins_wkB|aster: dual-booting has been a feature of linux installers since very early in it's development.19:33
jhutchins_wkB|aster: It can, yes.19:33
DJonesB|aster: The live cd is just used to install Ubuntu, once its installed you don't need to keep the cd in the drive19:33
DJonesB|aster: You can also put the iso on a USB stick and install from that if your computer supports booting from USB19:34
jhutchins_wkB|aster: The live CD as well as most other options can also pull additional and updated components from on-line repositories if they have a working ne3twork connection.19:34
B|asteroh ok19:34
DJones!install | B|aster This give you some more info,19:34
ubottuB|aster This give you some more info,: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate19:34
B|asterso if I burn the liveCD iso to a DVD, and then boot from that, it will partion my drive and install itself on the partion?19:34
jhutchins_wkB|aster: With some input from you along the way, yes.19:35
madmouser1inashdeen, open nautilus, File> connect , Connet to server and type the detail to the server and share manually & test that way19:35
B|asterjhutchins_wk: ok thanks19:35
bingohow can I setup a home e-mail server in Ubuntu ?19:35
jhutchins_wkB|aster: First step on a great journey - welcome!19:36
B|asterhehe ty19:36
elixirHi. My wifi on ubuntu 12.10 is not working. lspci -nn | grep 0280 shows me Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless -N 1000 [8086:0083] and rfkill list all shows me nothing. Any help please?19:36
inashdeenmadmouser1: what do I put in the server details?19:36
elyeoHey guys, can anyone tell me the command for how to view mounted filesystems, I've completely forgotten it :p19:36
dr_willisinashdeen:  i often find it easier to just use winscp on windows and ssh on linux to transfer files.. windows can be a pain with samba at times.. disable the windows firewall and setup a guest share on the linux box.. see if the windowss box can connect to it. also use the ip# not the server name  in the address bars19:36
madmouser1inashdeen, select type "Windows Share"19:37
madmouser1in server the name or IP address of the machine you are trying to connect to19:37
inashdeenmadmouser1 : it gave me the same error. Failed to retrieve share list from server19:37
madmouser1in Share the Share on the server19:37
madmouser1from command line you can try: smbclient -L //server -U user19:38
dr_willisyou may want to totally disable any firewalls on either machine  for the testing also19:38
bingois there a guide which I can follow to setup my home own domain e-mail server ?19:38
inashdeendr_willis : what is winscp? I can't really change any setting on the windows machine though. its not mine.19:38
dr_willisinashdeen:  its a scp client for windows19:38
inashdeendr_willis: how do i get the ip address of the server?19:38
dr_willisinashdeen:  ipconfig or ifconfig19:38
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cronuselyeo, you mean mount?19:41
inashdeendr_willis : I can't change any setting on the Windows PC. second, the server I am talking about is named COMPAQ-PC. I can find it in "Windows Network". Just can't connect. so how do I find the ip adress of it? I tried ifconfig, but it gave me the ip of something else I guess19:42
B|asterwhen installing into dual boot with windows, would you recommend LiveCD or Netinstall?19:42
elyeocronus: I'm unsure on what the command is, but basically all I need to do is remount the /cdrom drive during the livecd as writable, its actually a usb stick and it has some files on the USB I need to delete because they're causing a crash with Ubiquity, and I can't delete them any other way because now I've no operating systems on this machine :p! Have you any ideas on what I should do :)?19:42
B|asterI am hoping the installer will do the partioning for me aswell.19:42
ikoniaB|aster: keep it simple - use a cd19:42
codepython777seems like python-imaging on ubuntu does not have jpeg support - is that true?19:42
B|asterikonia:  LiveCD or MinimalCD?19:43
Whiskey`Wonkaanyone on 12.10 and installed cacti with apt-get?19:43
ikoniaB|aster: standard desktop install CD19:43
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: why ?19:43
cronuselyeo, oh. i wasn't sure of what you ment. mount -o remount,rw /cdrom sould work19:43
elyeoThanks cronus, I'll reboot and give it a try :)19:44
badpieThanks cronus!19:44
Whiskey`Wonkaikonia: im trying to access the cacti page but the installer did not make any links19:44
Whiskey`Wonkaso im at a loss as to whats up, even the default apache page isnt there19:44
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: where are you looking for the links ?19:44
cronusbadpie, ?19:45
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: if the default apache page is not there....that suggests your apache config is wrong, manually/visually check it19:45
Whiskey`Wonkahttp://10.205.1.254/ and added cacti/ to it and nothing (on the old cacti box that was retired this is where it was at after a default apt-get install)19:45
cronusbadpie, ooh..19:45
Gaming4JCSomeone's computer I am helping with can't get programs to run - <unknown>:7610): IBUS-WARNING **: Unable to load /var/lib/dbus/machine-id: Failed to open file '/var/lib/dbus/machine-id': Permission denied19:46
Gaming4JCany idea how to fix this?19:46
B|asterwhy is the download called *-amd64.iso ?  I have an Intel CPU :)19:46
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: that's an IP - not a name based host19:46
Whiskey`Wonkaikonia: i did check it, it looks fine, /var/www is empty (expected as ive not done anything with it)19:46
ikoniaB|aster: AMD is the 64bit platform19:46
Whiskey`Wonkaikonia: right i do not access the site via name19:46
ikoniaGaming4JC: looks at the permissions onthe file19:46
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: that's probably the issue,19:46
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: the IP will default to the fist name based host,19:46
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: the apache config relies on host headers19:46
Whiskey`Wonkain 10 years it never was before. is something new in 12.10 or with cacti .8.8?19:47
inashdeendr_willis : ok, I found my windows server ip address using nmblookup. then I open the terminal and run : nautilus smb:// 192.168.1.xxx . it still gave me the same error. why?19:47
Whiskey`Wonkaikonia: right if using vhosts19:47
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: yes, and the apache default on ubuntu is to use vhosts19:47
Whiskey`Wonkammm, the 12.04 box has no issue, odd19:47
cronusdr_willis, sorry for my ignorance, but is there a reason why smb://windowsname does not work in ubuntu?19:48
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: if you read the config the sites-enabled is basically vhosts19:48
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: I don't have an ubuntu box to hand to show you an exact example19:49
Whiskey`Wonkahttp://pastebin.com/9gH2fUaV19:50
Whiskey`Wonkathat basicly says 'all IP's port 80, doc root var/www/'19:50
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ikoniaWhiskey`Wonkapretty much19:50
Whiskey`Wonkawhich works fine, but apache did not install the default html 'it works' and cacti did not install there19:50
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: exactly what package did you install19:51
Gaming4JCikonia: total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Oct 27 17:22 machine-id19:51
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Gaming4JCthat's the current permissions19:51
Whiskey`Wonkaikonia: /var/cache/apt/archives/cacti_0.8.7i-2ubuntu1_all.deb19:51
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: what apt-get command did you issue19:51
Whiskey`Wonkaapt-get install cacti19:52
Whiskey`Wonkawait what the duce19:52
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: ?19:52
Kamranhello19:53
Kamran!!19:53
Gaming4JChi19:53
zero_coderhi19:53
Extremehi19:53
Whiskey`Wonkawell checking it says 0.8.8a-3 in aptitude19:53
Kamranwhats up???/19:53
Kamrani just got this irc19:53
Whiskey`Wonkawhich is why i even install 12.10 at all19:53
Kamranlearning how to use it19:53
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: something a bit wrong there....19:53
Kamranand am quite lossed.19:53
Gaming4JC!offtopic | Kamran19:53
ubottuKamran: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:53
Whiskey`Wonkaikonia: very19:53
Kamrananybody could help? that would be great???19:53
Whiskey`Wonkaikonia: im going to purge the buggers outa mysql, apache, cacti19:53
ikoniaWhiskey`Wonka: maybe worth manually cleaning the apt-cache directory19:54
Gaming4JCKamran: /join #ubuntu-offtopic for casual chat and IRC related things :)19:54
runixHi, what tools would you recommend for deploying Ubuntu on several machines? (I got a setup consisting of 10 similar machines in a cluster and then several other machines for different uses)? Ideally I would like to just install a bootloader and have it fetch a specific OS/setup so I could change what the machines should boot into from a server. Furthermore I am thinking of looking into Salt for managing the machines, but would really like a solution19:54
Gaming4JCrunix: Clonezilla?19:56
inashdeenbump19:57
runixGaming4JC: oh looks interesting, thanks :)19:58
Whiskey`Wonkaikonia: ok cleaned up the cache, purged and reisntalling, starting with apache20:00
Whiskey`Wonkasame boat with apache20:01
cronusinashdeen, can the shares be accessed from guests?20:02
dr_willisbump then quit ;)20:03
BlueWolfHi, does anyone know of a linux program that types up words as they are spoken. Eg - One has a microphone and speaks into it and the program types up the words instead of having to physically type them?20:03
Whiskey`Wonkaoh buggers, forgot to enable vnc on that20:04
cronusdr_willis, :D20:04
runixBlueWolf: search for speech-to-text or similar20:04
BlueWolfrunix: Do you know not of one?20:05
Mathiaspossible to adjust gamma and colors on a display?20:05
runixno, I20:05
DJonesBlueWolf: I've not seen any working, maybe have a look at this page http://linuxsagas.digitaleagle.net/2012/02/25/voice-recognition-in-ubuntu/20:05
runixno, I'm not using it20:05
BlueWolfDJones: I desperately need it, is there another way to go about it?20:07
DJonesBlueWolf: As I said, I don't know of any, the only suggestions I can make are to search in software centre, or keep asking here every so often to see anybody else can suggest anything20:08
BlueWolfDJones, runix: Most appreciated. Thank You for your time in helping me.....:D20:09
maestrojedI upgraded to Ubuntu12 and the optical out on my sound card won't work. I was about to downgrade but then I noticed I can use XBMC's settings panel, choose this output and it works in XBMC. Still won't work in Ubuntu (sans XBMC). the systems settings "won't let me" select optical out. Any advice before I go nuclear and downgrade?20:09
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Mathiasi'll ask my question again, two display setup on my laptop, on the tv the text is greenish (gnome-terminal, xbmc), but everything else is fine20:10
dr_willisive seen tvs have all sorts of 'smart' dynamic coloring/modes/brightness for better looking movies - that really goof things up when they are used as a computer monitor Mathias20:11
Whiskey`Wonkais it possible to run a text version of vino-preferences or edit the config file via cli??20:12
DJonesBlueWolf: There is a channel #ubuntu-accessibility, its not a very busy channel, but maybe somebody there can suggest something, so possibly there could be something they know designed for somebody with a disability that may work for speech recognition20:12
Mathiasthat's why i thought but when i connect my rpi running openelec text is fine and everything else. and _only_ text is weird (btw, the tv is on dynamic mode, just adjusts the contrast, nothing else)20:12
BlueWolfDJones: Thanks I will check it out. Another thing you could help with, I am using Ubuntu 10.04 and I am thinking of moving to 12.04, Is it better to Upgrade or do a fresh install? I have a dual boot with windows 7............20:13
Mathiasi'd do a clean install20:14
bingoin thunderbird how can I keep the copy in my inbox only....no copy in server (cannot find the option)20:15
stojicbingo: Edit -> Account Settings -> Server Settings for your account -> Leave messages on server20:16
bingostojic, I dont have that option in my thunderbird,20:18
tekkhi guys, i have a ubuntu 12.10 box (running on a mac mini). i run virtual machines on it, every now and again, when under load. the system panics and i have to reboot (it still responds to ping though). i've tried using kvm for virtualisation and virtual box... for some reason... it never happens with a freebsd guest in a virtualisation environment... only ubuntu.... I think what may be happening is that the guest VM's run out of memory and start swapping / thrashi20:18
tekkthe disk. So my question is.... . how can i control the amount of swap usage / who uses it / limit it / delete it all together and the other question is... does a VM host even need swap?20:18
bingostojic, I am using thunderbird 17.0.0420:18
bingostojic, I dont want to keep any messages in the server, trying to do the oppsite20:19
stojicbingo: No idea then, maybe Thunderbird thinks the account doesn't support it or something20:19
escott_tekk, you cannot control swap usage in any meaningful way20:19
stojicbingo: yes, the idea was to uncheck the "Keep messages on server" setting.20:19
BenxyzzyRegarding tar for system backups, many places (including Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR) suggest tarring to one massive archive. But isn't untarring large archives hard or impossible, due to the memory requirement?20:19
BenxyzzyI've not tried, I just don't want to find out after the fact that my backups are useless!20:20
escott_Benxyzzy, i would never use tar for system backups20:20
BlueWolfI am using Ubuntu 10.04 and I am thinking of moving to 12.04, Is it better to Upgrade or do a fresh install? I have a dual boot with windows 7............20:20
MathiasBlueWolf: i'd do a clean install20:21
BlueWolf20:22
BlueWolfMathias: What's wrong with an Upgrade when it is a provided facility in Ubuntu?20:22
bekksBlueWolf: Whats wrong with a fresh install when it is a provided installation method? :)20:22
bingostojic, I think I need to change my e-mail account type to POP, I think I tried it before nad didnt work20:22
auronandaceBlueWolf: simple fact is more can go wrong with upgrades compared with clean installs20:22
MathiasBlueWolf: you don't have those magical lingering problems (i.e. some weird config-file doing stupid stuff)20:23
martin__Iḿ kinda stuck here; got ubuntu GnomeRemix 12.10, after a bunch of upgrades suddenly i can't login anymore, when ubuntu starts i only see my background and no login form or anything, no mouse, nothing, when i go to runtime level 6, i can login and startx without problems,20:23
antyciao20:23
martin__I already tried to purge, autoremove and install gnome-shell and other gnome-***20:23
uvalacronus, hi again, I'd have another question to you :)20:23
stojicbingo: Perhaps, I really don't know. I'm giving Ubuntu a spin these days so I was just setting Thunderbird up and remembered where the settings was. Normally I don't use Thunderbird.20:24
Benxyzzyescott_: so the community help file ( and places like the venerable Linux Documentation Project http://www.google.com/cse?cx=017644269519104757279%3Agm62gtzaoky&q=backup&sa=go#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=backup&gsc.page=1) are wrong?20:24
escott_Benxyzzy, no. i'm just saying its not a tool i would use for that job20:25
BlueWolfbekks: I was hoping to avoid the hassle of a full re-installation as it puts my computer out for a period of time and setting everything back is a pain.20:26
BlueWolfauronandace: The why are Upgrades featured?20:26
BlueWolfMathias: I do have some similar problems.20:26
litropyI'm bored with my box. Ideas?20:27
hanasakiwhat would cause a vnc window to have the local cursor and remote cursor offset by 1-3" on the screen? and how to fix it?20:27
MathiasBlueWolf: you might want to take a full backup of your files, then you at least have them (configs and stuff is nice to have backed up, so you know how they were)20:27
Mathiaslitropy: play minecraft, use xbmc to watch movies/tv shows, start compiling gentoo from scratch (should keep you busy for a couple of weeks while you rip your hair out)20:29
bcbc2BlueWolf: I always upgrade. I don't believe in fresh installs.  But I always make a backup first, just in case.20:30
BlueWolfbcbc2: And how do the Upgrades go for you?20:31
OerHeksbefore upgrade i would make a cdr with the fresh iso, or usb, just in case.20:31
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uvalaI'd had a data loss earlier (it wasn't due to corrupt HDD),  and used testdisk to recover it, but some of the data hadn't been recovered. After that I'd reformatted and/or partitioned the disk a couple of times. now that I am currently running ddrescue for another corrupted drive, and it seems a powerful tool,  I thought whether ddrescue could recover the aforementioned old lost data, despite the fact of the disk being repartitioned thereafter20:32
bcbc2BlueWolf: I've never had a problem on my real installs. I've had issues during development testing (but those are generally throwaway installs)20:32
uvalacould ddrescue enable a recovery on this disk?20:32
bcbc2BlueWolf: I should warn you that the upgrade tool doesn't calculate free space correctly, so if you don't have 3GB or more free, don't attempt an upgrade.20:32
bekksuvala: No. ddrescue will read whatever there is on your disk - and there is quite a lot of overwritten data.20:33
litropyMathias, I like the xmbc idea. I actually really like it ... I have another box that I could dedicate for that. And I have an Android phone I can use for a remote. Only problem is, it doesn't have an HDMI out.20:33
bekksuvala: You're better of with testdisk, which might be able to recover the data which got overwritten.20:34
BlueWolfbekks: Thank You :D20:34
BlueWolfauronandace: Thank You :D20:34
BlueWolfMathias: Thank You :D20:34
BlueWolfOerHeks: Your now talking about tricks that are far beyond my intellectual capabilities.20:34
BlueWolfbcbc2: Space is not my concern but the smooth running of my system as well as along side the petty windows.20:34
uvalabekks, thank you very much for your information! I'd heard of very strong tools that would recover data from two years ago, is there one such tool among free tools?20:35
bcbc2BlueWolf: check that 12.04 runs okay first (from a live CD/USB). Make a backup. Then upgrade.20:35
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bekksuvala: The choice of the tools depends on the exact details of the circumstance that led to data corruption.20:36
BlueWolfbcbc2: It works, seems I will be doing a full reinstall rather than an Upgrade. I have been warned countless time that Upgrading is not the best.20:37
Mathiashmm, i might try reinstalling to 13.04 to see if the green text disappears20:38
bcbc2BlueWolf: ok. Go for it. I don't understand why people say that. But it's your choice. Note though, that if you're reinstalling anyway, you get a free shot at upgrading.20:38
Mathiasor 12.0420:38
bekksMathias: Which green text?20:38
Mathiasi'll copy/paste20:39
Mathiasi'll ask my question again, two display setup on my laptop, on the tv the text is greenish (gnome-terminal, xbmc),  but everything else is fine20:39
fredrik__I have a raid in my setup and the disc are shared threw samba. This only works if I log in, starts nautilus and dubbeclick on the disc in the left menu... how can I make this work better?20:40
escott_!samba | fredrik__20:40
ubottufredrik__: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.20:40
BlueWolfbcbc2: Well said a thought I shall consider.20:40
uvalabekks, the circumstance was just inadvertent deletion of the partition. no disk failure, no other agent. since it had ext format, I'd tried extundelete, but I could never make it work with my level of knowledge, despite the fact that I applied online information available. then I used testdisk, which, likely because the disk was further interfered with via my trials, did not recover some folders/files.20:41
compdocfredrik__, sounds liek you need to mount the raid in fstab20:41
BlueWolfbcbc2: Thank you for your time in assisting me. :D20:41
fredrik__escott, the problem is not samba. I have no trouble to make shares. The problem is that it wont work without mounting the disc20:41
bcbc2BlueWolf: no prob. good luck :)20:41
BlueWolfbcbc2: I will need it. :)20:42
bekksuvala: When the data was overwritten physically, it is lost, and there is no chance of recovering it.20:42
litropyWhat's a cheap video card that has an HDMI output? I'm not playing games on it, so I don't need it to be high-powered. I'm just looking for 1080p for XMBC.20:42
Whiskey`Wonkalitropy: newegg.com and look, there are many20:42
bekksuvala: If it is really important data - restore it from the backup or call a professional servoce like Kroll Ontrack.20:42
dr_willislitropy:  you can get ok nvidia cards in the $30 range i recall20:42
fredrik__compdoc, seems like it.. but how? and why is the disc not mounted by ubuntu?20:42
bcbc2BlueWolf: check out some of these... might help: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds/21378/testcases/1254/results20:43
dr_willislitropy:  and i imagine most have hdmi these days20:43
Vulcan[OMNI]hey, the 'id' command says that I am in the group 'foo'. However, when I put the line ''%foo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL' in my sudoers file, I still have to type my password. Can anyone see what is wrong with this?20:43
uvalabekks, that's what I am wondering. so, if these professional services can do it, there must be some tool that can do it, isn't it?20:43
escott_uvala, if all you did was remove the partition table you just need to put it back20:44
bekksuvala: They dont only use tools, but have techniques like clean rooms, etc.20:44
BlueWolfbcbc2: Thank you, cheers.20:44
Mathiasyay, the apport-loop has started again...20:45
Mathiasit's so fun that it reports that itself has crashed20:45
fredrik__compdoc, why do I need to add it to fstab when its mounted to /media/xxx?20:47
compdocfredrik__, when you add a disk, its never mounted for you. Study fstab, and create a mount directory.20:48
compdocfredrik__, /media/xxx is there because you mounted it from the desktop20:48
johntronis this possible: I've got a machine running precise with one extra drive, and i can't boot it from cd, usb, or net. I want to install quetzal on a new drive so I can change my partition sizes and then migrate the old files to the new drive.20:48
litropydr_willis, Whiskey`Wonka, at these prices, I may as well get a raspberry pi :)20:48
Whiskey`Wonkalitropy: eh?20:49
dr_willislitropy:  i got 2 pis allready20:49
fredrik__compdoc, if I reboot and just open a terminal and do a cd /media/xx the disc is there.. but you meen that it's not "mounted" the right way anyway?20:49
johntrondr_willis: tried raspbmc?20:50
compdocfredrik__, yeah, ubuntu is remembering you mouted it. unmount it before using fstab20:50
johntroni recently migrated my LAMP server to nginx on a pi20:50
litropydr_willis, do you run XMBC on any of the two?20:50
uvalabekks, ok, I see. back then I didnt hope much more after testdisk recovery, so I did more than just removing the partition. I created new partitions, saved data on them, and then later deleted them and reformatted disk.20:50
Mathiaswonderful, my sd card-reader won't work20:51
uvalabekks, so now it is like the third flush of the disk since then.20:51
johntronlitropy: have you tried raspbmc?20:52
dr_willislitropy:  yes.20:52
johntronhow was it?20:52
dr_willisraspbmc and the xbmc stuff work decently well.20:53
dr_willisgiven the limitations of the pi20:53
johntronstill kinda slow though20:53
johntron?20:53
litropyjohntron, I might, one I get a pi :)20:53
openelecwhat does a flashdrive come formatted as because i installed ubuntu on my flashdrive and i want to make it a normal flash drive again20:54
litropydr_willis, It does okay? what's the lag like?20:54
johntronlitropy: ah, ic. I was just wondering if it's worth it20:54
dr_willislitropy:  dident notice any.. but all i play is anime. ;) and cartoons20:54
Martinjo84openelec: normal windows formats20:54
tgm4883openelec, normally, fat3220:54
The0neexit20:54
litropydr_willis, nice thx20:54
openelechow do i reformat it in ubuntu20:54
dr_willisopenelec:  use gparted is one way20:55
tgm4883openelec, you can do it in disk utility20:55
openelechow do i open disk utility from terminal20:55
Martinjo84openelec: ntfs is best, if you need the filesize more then 4gb20:55
tgm4883dist utility is installed by default. gparted isn't. Either would work20:55
bingostojic, Its because yahoo doesnt work with pop anymore only yahoo plus (after payment) does, outlook does work with pop and now the option is showing20:56
litropyWelp, XMBC is out until I get HDMI. Any other ideas for my extra box, peeps? I'm just bored with it.20:57
openelecis exFat the same thing20:57
openelectgm4883,20:57
tgm4883openelec, no20:57
tgm4883openelec, similar though.20:57
openelecwhich one should i use20:58
stojicbingo: I see.20:58
tgm4883openelec, exfat is used when ntfs isn't feasible to use but you need larger than 4GB filesizes20:58
tgm4883openelec, mostly used in digital cameras and such20:58
tgm4883openelec, well what do you want to use the flash drive for?20:58
openelectransfer files20:58
tgm4883openelec, to/from what?20:58
openeleclinux mac and windows20:59
tgm4883openelec, how large files?20:59
fredrik__compdoc, thanks...21:00
root__ciaoo21:00
shomidHey, anyone here using openbox?21:00
openelecdr_willis,  can i use the gparted without live disk21:00
root__hi!!21:00
root__c'è qualcuno italiano ???21:00
tgm4883!it | root__21:01
ubotturoot__: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:01
root__thanks21:01
uvalafree software is true enabling of humans! today I discovered new software on ubuntu, and felt this again and again. all their developers out there, heartily thanks for all your efforts in the way of a better humanity!21:02
openelecdr_willis,  can i use the gparted without live disk21:02
inashdeenhi there, I have a prob. I am running ubuntu 12.04. my friend is running windows 7. he has a shared folder. I can't access it from my ubuntu. another friend using windows 7 can access them.i run smbtree, I can see n access another shared folder from another computer, probabily running XP. what is the prob here?21:02
dr_willisopenelec:  if you are changeing a flash drive.. you just use gparted from whatever you boot fro,m,21:03
dr_willisshomid:  a lot of people use openbox21:04
dr_willisinashdeen:  so you fire up nautilus and hit ctrl-l and enter the path to the share similer to... smb://the.server.ip.address/sharename and what happens ?21:05
dr_williswindows shares can just be weird.. with win7+ and the windows homegroups it seems to be even flakier at times21:06
inashdeendr_willis: the same . Failed to retrieve share list from server21:07
ethana3I've got an i7-3770 system and I'm trying to test my RAM with the memtest86+ included with Ubuntu 13.04 daily x64.. it fails with the same error on the last bit of every byte from the first one and my system is rock-solid.. anyone know where I can get a memory tester that actually works?21:07
dr_willisinashdeen:  sounds like the server is somehow blockng that pc.21:07
dr_willisor ignoreingit.21:07
ethana3I tried to go straight to the memtest86+ site and get an image but the USB disk creator wouldn't work on it21:08
inashdeendr_willis : so how do I overcome it21:08
bekksethana3: that is the memory tester that actually works. All you can do now is getting a hardware memory tester which is quiote expensive.21:08
inashdeenI mean, when I run my windows, on this same PC, I can access COMPAQ-PC flwlessly21:08
dr_willisthres some alternative samba browser tools in the repos.. not sure if smb3k is still around.. i used to use it all the time ages ago.21:08
dr_willisinashdeen:  you could try just mounting the shares by hand21:08
inashdeendr_willis: how?21:08
dr_willis!samba21:08
escott_ethana3, you ram is bad. just because it hasn't crashed the machine doesn't mean its not bad21:08
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.21:08
ethana3Every byte? with the same exact type of error on each one?21:09
dr_willisinashdeen:  with the mount command and the cifs filesystem option21:09
dr_willis!windows21:09
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents21:09
openelecdr_willis,  how do i send u screen shot of error21:09
escott_ethana3, memtest86 is a very very simple program. write a pattern read a pattern, check if it matches21:09
inashdeendr_willis : I am quite noob. a lil bit explanation and thank you very much21:09
dr_willisopenelec:  Huh?  you repartion the flash drive and reformat it..21:09
ethana3escott_: I've had it fail on me before, due to a bug.. the whole test #7 thing21:10
openelecdr_willis,  from gprated21:10
dr_willisinashdeen:  theres guides out there on mounting windows shaeres. ive not done it in ages.21:10
dr_willisbbl21:10
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openelecI have 3 partions in the flash driveunknown unallocated and hfs+how do i clear this and make it useable again21:12
escott_ethana3, if your problem is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bug/1071209 then discard the false positive21:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1071209 in Release Notes for Ubuntu "memtest86+ test #7 false positives (random number sequence error)" [Undecided,Incomplete]21:12
tekkok i lost my question in the abyss...21:13
tekkdisabling swap. bad idea?21:13
ethana3escott_: that's what it was with my C2D, and I found that bug and clicked "this affects me"21:13
phunyguytekk, if you have enough physical RAM, then it won't hurt,21:13
ethana3escott_: this time it's all the tests, from the instant it starts, and the pattern is always the same until the last character, then it's always consistent, but different21:13
tekkif i don't... what will happen? pom?21:13
tekkoom21:13
tekkstupid auto correct hah21:13
openelecdr_willis, I have 3 partions in the flash driveunknown unallocated and hfs+how do i clear this and make it useable again21:13
tekki'd rather the machine or guest dies than the hdd starts thrashing21:14
Neptuhej, I want to use emacs in a console inside a window and I get anoyed because left alt triggers some shortcut. I modified the launch to hud shortcut in the configuration but still is not working...21:14
ethana3has anyone run memtest86+ on a 3770 and had it pass?21:14
phunyguytekk is swap space causing you issues?21:14
tekkkind of21:14
tekkso21:14
tekki have a VM host running ubuntu 12.1021:14
tekkI have a guest with 10gb RAM allocated... if the guest needs more memory.. it starts swapping...21:14
tekkand for some reason this kills the host after a while21:15
escott_ethana3, im not sure what you want us to say. you seem to have the full diagnosis in front of you21:15
tekkeven though the guest and host, are on different physical drives21:15
phunyguy10gb??21:15
tekkmachine has 32gb RAM total21:15
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tekkafter all guests have RAM allocated, there is 2.5GB free for host... (more than enough imho)21:15
phunyguydoes the guest need 10 gigs?21:16
tekkyes21:16
phunyguyoh wait its more than one21:16
tekkfrom time to time21:16
tekkyeah, about 5 guests21:16
tekkbut only this 1 guest is causing the host to fuck up21:16
tekkand i've tried kvm and virtualbox21:16
tekksame issue21:16
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tekkdoesn't happen if i use FreeBSD for the guest... as it behaves differently21:17
tekkbut happens if i use debian/ubuntu for guest21:17
openelec!language | tekk21:17
tekk(ubuntu host)21:17
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ethana3i'm going to try to download a version of memtest that supports my cpu (5, still in alpha).. but I think I tried that already and couldn't get it to boot from my flash drive21:17
tekkany ideas (so far i'm willing to try disabling swap on the HOST)21:17
escott_tekk, disabling swap on the host is just going to cause you to oom21:18
holsteintekk: i have used systems without swap before21:18
tekkif the host oom's though it will kill some stuff rather than panicing right21:18
tekk?21:18
escott_tekk, thats the idea21:18
tekkperhaps i should try disabling swap on the guest first21:19
tekkswapoff -a should do it21:19
tekki've turned off nested-paging now also21:19
escott_tekk, there are also some special drivers for ubuntu guest on ubuntu host. things like balloon drivers and page sharing. you might check if those are enabled21:19
tekkgood point21:19
tekkif enabled... perhaps thats whats causing the issue21:20
tekkas FreeBSD is the only guest that has no issues... I use that guest in "generic" mode though... no host support21:20
CamelKing96hi! I'm a Xubuntu user with 512Mb of ram. Sombody know how to optimize it? (I've just OC the CPU from 1.8 to 2.25Ghz)21:20
MonkeyDustwhat's OC ?21:21
CamelKing96Overclock21:21
tekkCamelKing96, if running any daemons, you can tune them for higher CPU or memory usage21:22
tekki.e. mysql / mail etc21:22
holsteinCamelKing96: i wouldnt do anything. i would just use the system and see how you like it "as-is"... for me, the hard drive is usually a bottle neck21:22
MathiasCamelKing96: old system?21:22
CamelKing96i've heard about Zram, somebody know it?21:23
CamelKing96not very old system: economic system :D21:23
ethana3well, no checksums were provided for these alpha memtest .iso's, but the USB startup disk creator says they "don't match".. I'm going to try to boot off of it anyways21:28
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tekkright, swap off done... will let you know how it goes :)21:30
Gigyciao21:30
bastidrazori am out :(21:31
Gigyscusate come si andava nella stanza dove si parla italiano?21:31
Gigychi parla italiano?21:32
stojicGigy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ItalianTeam21:32
shomonqua21:32
shomonperó c'é una chat dedicata a italiani21:33
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Gigyok grazie21:33
dd444how do i set up a vpn?21:35
holstein!vpn21:35
ubottuFor more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN21:35
Martinjo84dd444: openvpn21:35
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dd444seem to b having probs with it on win821:37
brum_which is the recommended way of installing skype on ubuntu? it seems the two alternatives are using the statically built package from skype.com or using the one from the ubuntu partner repository21:38
aurohurd!skype | brum_21:39
ubottubrum_: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga21:39
brum_aurohurd: the wiki doesn't really give any pros/cons for using the static vs dynamic build21:41
aurohurdbrum_: sorry, i only know of the link, i don't use skype21:41
brum_okay21:41
ethana3Is there a way to just "dd" an .iso file to a 4GB flash drive and have it work?21:42
aurohurdethana3: it works with 11.10 and above21:42
escott_ethana3, depends on your bios21:42
escott_ethana3, and how the iso is designed21:42
ethana3it's the beta 6 from this page http://forum.canardpc.com/threads/68001-NEW-%21%21-Memtest86-5.00-Beta-6-available-%21-Need-betatesters-%21 and my bios/eufi is the latest one for this ASRock (B77?) mainboard21:43
ethana3would the way to attempt that be to just "dd if=/path/path/file.iso of=/dev/sdb"21:44
ethana3or would I need to write it all 0's or 1's to it first somehow?21:44
aurohurdethana3: yes, but you need to check with them weather the iso is designed for that21:45
exarkunafter the last reboot of my dell inspiron 1545, glx is no longer available and unity is forced into 2d mode.  I have no clue what changed to cause this (I'm sure some packages got upgraded since the last reboot, I have no idea what, I just let package manager do its thing; I didn't do anything obvious like uninstall libmesa).  How do I fix it?21:45
aurohurdethana3: no, dd would simply overwrite whatever was there21:45
ethana3aurohurd: is there a way to check whether the .iso is designed for it? also, I know dd would overwrite, but the remainder of the space on the flash drive could be anything and it wouldn't matter then, right?21:46
exarkunXorg.log says "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)".  Which seems bogus, since there is not an nvidia video card in this laptop.21:46
aurohurdethana3: yeah, it wouldn't matter then because all that would be seen is what was dd-ed21:47
ethana3aurohurd: I'm going to give this a shot21:47
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useless-eatercan anyone point me to a netinstall.img that I can dd to a usb stick for installing ubuntu-server? cannot find it on webpage21:47
aurohurdethana3: you'd have to ask them if they have a hybrid iso that allows to simply dd it21:47
aurohurd!mini | useless-eater21:48
ubottuuseless-eater: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD21:48
useless-eateraurohurd: I dont have cd.  This way I can use a usb stick?21:49
ethana3aurohurd: i just dd'ed it over, if this doesn't work, i'll sign up on their forums and ask for a hybrid .iso21:49
* ethana3 reboots21:49
aurohurduseless-eater: yes, the iso can be dd-ed to a usb stick (11.10 upwards are hybrid isos)21:49
useless-eateraurohurd: oh, thats good.21:50
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DX099useless-eater, be carefull to dd to the full /dev/sdx and not some /dev/sdxN partition.21:53
useless-eaterDX099: dont worry, been using linux for years :)21:55
useless-eaterDX099: just not ubuntu21:55
Beatstreetwhat's the program that repalced fdisk?21:55
k1lBeatstreet: gdisk?21:55
DX099useless-eater, I did that mistake myself, but good then :)21:56
useless-eaterk1l: check out parted maybe?21:57
Kardoshow do i make a bootable ubuntu usb, from fedora? the web manual has instructions for doing it from ubuntu using "usb-creator-kde".... which appears to be not in fedora's repos21:58
k1lKardos: use unetbootin21:58
k1lKardos: or "dd" the iso to a usbstick21:58
MonkeyDustKardos  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/22:00
Kardosahhh dd will do it eh?22:01
Kardosokay thanks :D22:01
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Beatstreetcan someone think of a reason that fdisk/sfdisk shows nothing?22:07
holsteinBeatstreet: permissions22:08
useless-eaterlol,  able to choose norwegian dvorak during install.  not bad not bad22:08
aurohurdBeatstreet: is it gpt?22:08
Beatstreetholstein - im root22:08
useless-eaterBeatstreet: gpt dont work well with fdisk22:08
Beatstreethow do I list partitions with gpt?22:08
escott_Beatstreet, parted22:09
Beatstreetparted or gparted?22:10
Seppozhello, i have 2 ports which i wanna build a switch upon22:10
escott_Beatstreet, they both use libparted22:10
Seppozso i called brctl addbr br0 brctl addif br0 eth0 and brctl addif br0 eth122:10
Seppozshould that be enough for a transparent bridge?22:10
Beatstreetso if OS was isntalled using parted then I wont e able to see with fdisk?22:11
escott_Beatstreet, just dont use fdisk. its old unmaintained software. this really isnt that hard22:12
holsteinBeatstreet: what im reading is, GPT doesnt work well with fdisk.. its the type that is the issue, as i read it22:12
JpmhI have a working system 10.4, works fine but it is clearly time to upgrade.  I have a "remastersys" made ISO which works GREAT on other systems.  Sadly this system has no working CD nor usb.  I can sftp in and out.  Is ther any way  I can take that iso and boot from it after installing it on that machine22:12
k1lBeatstreet: for gpt use gdisk22:12
Beatstreetescott - I'm just trying to list the partitions on a new OS install22:12
escott_holstein, GPT doesn't work with fdisk PERIOD. fdisk is junk forget about it22:12
holsteinBeatstreet: ^^22:13
escott_Beatstreet, and you've been told to use parted. what is the problem? sudo parted -l22:13
holsteinescott_: thanks22:13
brightsparkgdisk is the GPT equivalent to fdisk22:13
Beatstreetlogged in as root, parter -l list nothing as well22:13
Beatstreetlogged in as root, parted -l list nothing as well22:14
escott_gdisk is a bit more than just "fdisk for gpt" for most cases parted is a better choice than gdisk22:14
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Beatstreetwhy would both fdisk -l and parted -l show nothing, while logged in as root22:14
escott_Beatstreet, parted should show the disk and indicate it has no table22:14
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Beatstreetparted -l is blank22:15
escott_Beatstreet, what about cat /proc/partitions22:15
escott_Beatstreet, instead of having parted scan all devices you can scan a particular device as well "sudo parted -l /dev/sda"22:16
Beatstreetcat /proc/mdstat shows partitions but "sudo parted -l /dev/sda" shows nothing22:17
escott_Beatstreet, what kind of md device? and why would you have a table on an md device?22:18
Beatstreetno RAIDs22:18
jimi_my xorg fails to start after upgrading. I can choose an older kernel and it works. I can't really see the error messages because it split my monitor into 4 tiny boxes22:18
aurohurdBeatstreet: do you have harddisks or are you dealing with sdcards?22:18
Beatstreet2x2TB HDDs22:19
escott_Beatstreet, why are you looking at mdstat? what possible relationship does that have to partition tables?22:20
Beatstreetsorry, you said md device and I thought you meant raid22:22
l_rwhen will ubuntu 13.04 be out22:23
l_rsecond question: what is the version of boost lib now?22:23
l_r(in ubuntu 13.04beta)22:23
escott_!info libboost22:23
ubottuPackage libboost does not exist in quantal22:23
icerootl_r: #ubuntu+122:24
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escott_!info libboost-all-dev22:24
ubottulibboost-all-dev (source: boost-defaults): Boost C++ Libraries development files (ALL) (default version). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.49.0.1 (quantal), package size 2 kB, installed size 26 kB22:24
l_r1.49?????22:24
escott_!info libboost-all-dev quantal22:24
l_rcome on22:24
l_rthere's 1.5322:24
l_rpls upgrade22:24
myersghow do I fix this?22:24
escott_l_r, thanks! I'll hop right on that22:24
myersgCould not nd required OpenGL entry point 'glGetEooro'! Either your vido card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated.22:25
l_rescott, no prob22:25
Beatstreetescott_ - logged in a root, fdisk -l shows nothing, parted -l shows nothing, parted -l /dev/sda shows nothing but cat /proc/partitions show 4 partitions per disk (2 drives so 8 partitions)22:25
l_rescott, will you do the job?22:25
sam101hello guys i would like to know how do i install ruby on ubunty22:25
sam101on terminal22:25
escott_Beatstreet, the kernel may not have been appraised of a change in partition tables. a partprobe should get /proc/partitions in sync with sudo parted -l and cause your md devices to crash22:29
anathemsam101: sudo apt-get install ruby22:30
Beatstreetok escott_ - running partprobe22:30
escott_l_r, this is a volunteer run support channel. most people in channel (including myself) have no connection with canonical (or debian) so no i won't do anything about it, because this is not the right forum for your complaints22:32
sam101anathem: thanks22:33
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escott_myersg, have you tried installing proprietary graphics drivers?22:35
oscailtDoes anyone know if the Realtek "RTL8723AE-BT", wireless driver is working in Ubuntu 13.0422:36
Beatstreetescott_ - partprobe did nothing22:38
escott_Beatstreet, can you paste the output of "mount; cat /proc/partitions; parted -l; dmesg | tail -n 100" to paste.ubuntu.com22:39
Beatstreetok22:40
escott_Beatstreet, can you paste the output of "partprobe; mount; cat /proc/partitions; parted -l; dmesg | tail -n 100" to paste.ubuntu.com22:40
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FolhaSecadoes anyone know if there is a file i can edit in order to manipulate tcp ports, rather than using commands? I've been trying to open some tcp ports, unsuccessfully. We have three interfaces in that box, with snort/barnyard set up, bu we don't seem to be getting connectivity between the inside network and our DMZ, eventhough our DMZ hits the cloud. We think it might be a port issue. We have been trying to set up splunk22:43
MartynKeigherhey so installed wordpress on a ubuntu serevr (@ 192.168.10.165). its located in /var/www/mkeigher, so to get to my site i have to go to 192.168.10.165/mkeigher. but how can i get to it by just going straight to 192.168.10.165 ??  thanks22:44
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Whiskey`WonkaMartynKeigher: you need to move the site up a level22:44
Whiskey`Wonkaor do a redirect22:45
MartynKeigheri prefer the redirect, coz i eventuallyw ant to have a few sites out of the /var/www/ folder. how do i do a redirect?22:45
Whiskey`Wonkagoogle html page redirect22:46
Whiskey`Wonkabut in this case just use vhosts22:46
Whiskey`Wonkamake it mkeigher.local22:46
MartynKeighermake the folder /var/www/mkeigher.local ??22:47
escott_FolhaSeca, you should be modifying the rules files, not doing it by iptables commands22:48
D49Lsdf22:48
escott_FolhaSeca, the commands are just for the initial setup, then you need to export the rules and save them to /etc/something (for instance /etc/ufw/rules.d if you are  using ufw)22:48
Whiskey`WonkaMartynKeigher: no, make a vhost called that, then also add that to your hosts file or your dns22:49
Beatstreetescott_ > http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644809/22:49
MartynKeigheryeah my apache is not great! ;) didnt know what you meant. i will look into it! thanks!22:49
Whiskey`Wonkahttps://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts22:50
trueneu_Hi guys. Is there any way I can find out which processes are attached to a given shared memory segment on Ubuntu?22:50
MartynKeigherthank you! :)22:50
Whiskey`Wonkano problem22:50
FolhaSecaescott_: thank you so much, I will look into that. We have snort set up to bridge two of the interfaces, it's been "working" since the dmz hits the cloud, but we can't get our dmz to hit the inside, which is where the splunk server is22:50
Whiskey`WonkaOk im going nuts, remote desktop access doesnt work if i do not have a user logged in??22:50
MartynKeighernice guide there! could have done with this about 5 hours ago! ;)22:51
MartynKeigherThanks wonka!22:52
Whiskey`WonkaMartynKeigher: no problem22:52
escott_Beatstreet, the kernel will (presumably) refuse to update a table if it removes an active device. you would have to umount sda2 and sda4 before partprobe will do anything22:52
escott_sdb2 and sda4 rather22:52
Beatstreetok22:52
Beatstreettrying that22:52
escott_Beatstreet, you also aren't properly booted which suggests that something went wrong during the boot22:53
Beatstreethow's that?22:53
escott_Beatstreet, you dont have a root device mounted22:53
Beatstreetescott_ > http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644819/22:56
escott_Beatstreet, yes. as i said you dont have your root device mounted. rootfs is the initial root filesystem image included in the initrd22:57
Beatstreetthinking a OS relaod is needed22:57
douglasPoncianoHello!22:57
k1lBeatstreet: what is this hardware?22:57
douglasPoncianoPlease, how can we install some Nintendo 64 emulator?22:58
escott_Beatstreet, i dont think you realize how deep a hole you are in at the moment22:58
douglasPoncianoI can't find anyone on Ubuntu Software Center...22:58
escott_Beatstreet, by all appearances your hard disks are failing and your partition table has been damaged. your root filesystem is for some reason unmountable22:58
escott_Beatstreet, you need to boot your install media and see if you can recover from there22:59
Beatstreetescott_ - reloading OS22:59
Beatstreetsee how it goes22:59
Beatstreetthanks22:59
douglasPoncianoWould someone help me?22:59
KI4RO.23:01
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NeedBasicHelpWiti am trying to setup a raid beside my windows partition. Basically, i have a 120 and a 160 gb harddrive on this laptop, with my windows installation on a 40 gigabyte partition on the 160, thus leaving two 120 gigabyte disks available for striping.23:02
oneI can't play N64 on Ubuntu. :/23:02
NeedBasicHelpWitis this possible?23:02
NeedBasicHelpWitone: mupen64?23:02
oneNeedBasicHelpWit, It could be... Do you know how to install it?23:03
escott_NeedBasicHelpWit, yes23:03
NeedBasicHelpWitone: have you used it before?23:03
ActionParsnip!info mupen64plus | NeedBasicHelpWit23:04
ubottuNeedBasicHelpWit: mupen64plus (source: mupen64plus): plugin-based Nintendo 64 emulator (transitional dummy package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.99.5+1 (quantal), package size 5 kB, installed size 31 kB23:04
NeedBasicHelpWitescott_: Is it a matter of partitioning the drives first, setting up a raid, and then partitioning them again?23:04
oneLong time ago... I just installed it from the Ubuntu Software Center I guess.23:04
ActionParsnipNeedBasicHelpWit: try searching a little, instead of immediately asking for clarification23:04
oneNeedBasicHelpWit, But now I can't get it running... Would you help me please?23:04
NeedBasicHelpWitone: I havnt dabbled with it recently. A good place to look might be tasvideos.org23:05
ActionParsnipone ^23:05
escott_NeedBasicHelpWit, partition. then create raid. i would not personally partition an md device. you might use LVM on top of mdadm if thats your desire23:05
oneI'm taking a look, thanks. :)23:05
escott_NeedBasicHelpWit, and keep in mind that /boot needs to be outside the array23:06
NeedBasicHelpWitone: unfortunately, emulation is far from perfect. I have yet to see an n64 game play rogue squadron.23:06
ActionParsnipNeedBasicHelpWit: I played majoras mask in muppen64, runs well :)23:06
jaya_Hello23:06
jaya_Anyone can help ?23:06
escott_NeedBasicHelpWit, (unless its pure RAID1 in which case grub can boot a raid1 member as a raw device and initrd bring the other device online into the mirror23:06
jaya_Unable to open gedit23:06
k1l_!details | jaya_23:07
ubottujaya_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:07
jaya_in terminal23:07
ActionParsnipNeedBasicHelpWit: the Silent Hill you can buy for the PC is just Bleem with an ISO of the PS1 game which made me chuckle23:07
useless-eaterjaya_: aptitude install vim ;)23:07
ActionParsnipjaya_: run:    gedit      what is output23:07
NeedBasicHelpWitescott_: interesting; so boot loader can be on a raid 1?23:07
ActionParsnipuseless-eater: aptitude isn't installed by default23:07
jaya_(gedit:1815): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported23:07
jaya_**23:07
jaya_GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.0/gio/gdbusconnection.c:2270:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)23:07
jaya_Aborted23:07
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jaya_this is what i get when i try to use gedit23:08
oneNeedBasicHelpWit, Pity... But games I like will run fine I guess... I just hope I get it installed. Thanks for this page. :)23:08
useless-eaterNeedBasicHelpWit: boot can be on raid123:08
ActionParsnipjaya_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue23:08
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