[00:00] <DanEngholm> Starting today, synaptic, Ubuntu Software Center, Software Up To Date and apt-get all crash.  When I try to send a problem report, that crashes, too.  Any ideas?  This is on Precise running on an AMD 64 which was up to date as of earlier this week.
[00:01] <linux389> DanEngholm: have you tried sudo aptitude install -f in terminal?
[00:01] <DanEngholm> I didn't know about that.  Will try now.
[00:02] <k1l_> DanEngholm: make a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal and show that in a pastebin please
[00:02] <DanEngholm> aptitude is not installed and trying to apt-get install it leads to the expected core dump.
[00:02] <linux389> k1l_: the && doesn't work in the newer versions of ubuntu anymore
[00:02] <k1l_> linux389: that is not true
[00:03] <linux389> k1l_: well, when i try that on ubuntu 12.10 it stops after update
[00:03] <DanEngholm> The apt-get update seems to have fixed the problem.
[00:03] <k1l_> linux389: it still works. then there is some issue with your system
[00:04] <DanEngholm> That was easy.  Thanks!
[00:04] <linux389> k1l_: its been bugging me, can you help me fix it?
[00:05] <threex5> Hi, I could really use some help getting ubuntu to talk to my android phone.
[00:05] <threex5> I'm finding basic stuff like file transfer pretty hard to figure out
[00:06] <DanEngholm> k1l_: Thank you for your help.
[00:06] <linux389> anyone know how to fix the "sudo poweroff now" not turning off my desktop? I am on ubuntu 12.10 and the dual boot shuts down fine in windows xp.
[00:07] <giovana> oi maria joaquina
[00:08] <Snowie> morning all. I am installing True Combat Elite, which requires libstdc++5. The thread recommends installing it from ubuntu packages as it isnt in the repos. I have never done this before. Any advice or common mess ups i need to be aware of before i do this?
[00:08] <Soru_> Someone knows why If I execute dungeons defender it doesn't start?
[00:08] <Snowie> and is this the correct version for 12.04 http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/libstdc++5
[00:09] <Snowie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=864085
[00:09] <linux389> Snowie: maybe "find /usr -name libstdc++" then symbolic link to libstdc++5; that is done with "sudo ln -s <input> <output>"
[00:10] <PatrickDickey> Snowie, the correct version for 12.04 would be http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libstdc++5
[00:10] <Snowie> linux389: ok, will try.
[00:10] <Snowie> PatrickDickey: ahh, yes, pangolin not ocelot. duh
[00:12] <PatrickDickey> Soru, without any error messages, I don't think anyone could be positive.
[00:13] <Snowie> linux389: nothing found. i dont think they use this same library anymore, or is there another package i might be missing that includes this. apt-get install libstd++ just returns info on broken packages
[00:13] <Soru_> PatrickDickey: This is why I don't know what to search on the internet for help... And there is zero support from the humble bundle..
[00:13] <linux389> Snowie: you could try "apt-cache search libstdc++" or without the ++
[00:13] <chro> when I use 2 screens, the first screen is always blinking from time to time...
[00:14] <PatrickDickey> Soru_: when you try starting it, what happens exactly?
[00:15] <Snowie> linux389: looks like version 6 is current.
[00:15] <linux389> Snowie: you could symbolic link to your libstdc++.so.6 to libstdc++.so.5 in the same directory as the libstdc++.so.6; that is with the "sudo ln -s <input.6> <output.5>"
[00:15] <Snowie> linux389: doh. yeah, it's allready there. the other recommendation was to create a symlink. im sure i searched for it.
[00:16] <Snowie> linux389: yeah, cheers
[00:16] <linux389> anyone know how to fix the "sudo poweroff now" not turning off my desktop? I am on ubuntu 12.10 and the dual boot shuts down fine in windows xp. also the double ampersand is not working to join commands in terminal, any help on that is appreciated
[00:17] <Soru_> PatrickDickey: Well, first of all, sorry I'm on Kubuntu (trying and so) but I'm here because there is more activity here. When I click to the icon, it seems like it's starting to execute the game, but I switch to the process monitor, It does not shows nothing with the name "dungeons defenders" and nothing happens after. I don't know if my english is good, sorry.
[00:17] <Snowie> thanks guys
[00:21] <dakotawulfy> hi
[00:22] <PatrickDickey> Soru_: It doesn't appear to be compatible for LInux yet. I'm going on the assumption that you're playing the Steam version, right?
[00:22] <Snowie> ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 ?? are these the correcl locations. when i look in usr/lib, there is no such file/folder.
[00:23] <maestrojed> if you use xbmcbuntu, can you exit to just ubuntu (no xvmc)?
[00:23] <mephisto_> hi!
[00:23] <dakotawulfy> when lm-sensor installed and u do sensors  the temp1  temp2 and temp3  will those be the same on all computers ?
[00:23] <Soru_> PatrickDickey: No, I've downloaded it from the humble bundle website. The installer is a mojo.run file
[00:26] <mephisto_>  I keep getting this whenever I try to connect through modem manager "System policy prevents unlocking or controlling the mobile broadband device"
[00:26] <mephisto_> do you guys know how to solve this?
[00:27] <moes> I did an update from update manager to linux-generic-2.6.32.46.53 upon restart I am at a login prompt and cannot login I have to use old kernel to boot..any known problem or fix
[00:28] <escott_> Snowie, there is usually a reason for the different numbers at the end. programs may not work correctly if you do that
[00:30] <PatrickDickey> Soru_: I'm not able to find anything. I'm sorry. Hopefully someone else can help you out.
[00:31] <Soru_> PatrickDickey: No problem, thanks for trying, I appreciate it very much!
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> mephisto_: One suggestion that I could make is to check your privleges in Users and Groups. You might need to have Use Modems checked, or Connect through modems.
[00:34] <mephisto_> PatrickDickey, thanks a lot buddy :)
[00:35] <PatrickDickey> Not a problem. Hope it helps.
[00:38] <Snowie> exit
[00:41] <moes>  I did an update from update manager to linux-generic-2.6.32.46.53 upon restart I am at a login prompt and cannot login I have to use old kernel to boot..any known problem or fix
[00:43] <carpcow> i need help with ubuntu
[00:44] <carpcow> when i try to install it the installer crashes
[00:45] <carpcow> anyone here?
[00:46] <mellery> hi, I need some help fixing my ati drivers.  I've just got a black screen with a terminal in the top corner.  I've tried purging the fglrx* packages and reinstalling, but when I run amdconfig --initial, i get a command not found.  trying to use failsafex in recovery mode doesn't work either
[00:47] <peterrooney> I wonder what IRC client doesn't show a room count.
[00:50] <PatrickDickey> carpcow does the installer give you an error when it crashes?
[00:50] <cyrano_> I'm attempting a triple monitor setup with my system. I currently have a nVidia 9800 GTX+ and an onboard Intel GMA 3100. I would like to have all three screens active with either a combination of twinview and xinerama or just xinerama across all three screens. The problem is when I enable this X constatly crashes and restarts. any ideas or thoughts on where I should look/start?
[00:50] <carpcow> it says i/o error
[00:51] <PatrickDickey> carpcow, no guarantees but I had that with a hard drive that was in the process of dying. Are you on a LiveCD right now?
[00:51] <carpcow> no
[00:52] <carpcow> i was trying to install ubuntu on microsoft hyper-v
[00:52] <carpcow> which is a virtual machine thing
[00:52] <PatrickDickey> Are you on the computer right now though? And if so, what operating system are you on?
[00:52] <carpcow> windows but ubuntu is on the vm'
[00:54] <PatrickDickey> Which version of Windows? I ask that, because I'm googling this, and see entries for Windows 8 and Windows Server 2008 R2.
[00:54] <carpcow> server 2012
[00:54] <carpcow> im thinking maybe the iso didn't download correctly?
[00:55] <carpcow> i have a bad connection
[00:55] <nopolitica> carpcow: crc, md5?
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> carpcow that could be. I don't remember off-hand how to check the md5sum of the iso on Windows, but you might want to do that.
[00:55] <carpcow> dunno how to check the md5 sum on windows
[00:56] <carpcow> ok well thanks for the help
[00:56] <nopolitica> carpcow: cygwin + md5 installed :)
[00:57] <PatrickDickey> carpcow: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows how to check md5sum in Windows.
[00:57] <PatrickDickey> It's an older posting, but should still work. If not Google is your friend. ;-)
[00:58] <carpcow> i use startpage though but yes
[00:58] <xcvt01_> can i run hurd in ubuntu
[00:58] <xcvt01_> ?
[01:02] <PatrickDickey> xcvt01_: The short answer is "no". The longer answer is you can run it as a virtual machine maybe through QEMU. http://askubuntu.com/questions/37945/can-i-install-gnu-hurd-in-ubuntu
[01:02] <tkemp> Hello, I have an asus eeepc 900 and I am trying to control the fans ... the unit seems very hot and doesn't seem to be turning them on. I have looked around the forums but I cant seem to find anything that helps. Thanks in advance.
  tnx
[01:03] <PatrickDickey> xcvt01_: No problem. Sorry.
  i know that i should run it under vm
[01:03] <fluo123> anyone with a lenovo g580?
  i have try a debian version but no graphical  interface
[01:04] <PatrickDickey> !eeepc | tkemp this might get you going.
[01:04] <fluo123> anyone with a lenovo g580?
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> xcvt01_: I'm not familiar enough with the hurd project to give you a solid answer. But, I'd assume that if Gnome or one of the other Desktop environments was available, you'd be able to install them.
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: Not here, but what's the issue that you're having? We may be able to help anyhow.
[01:05] <tkemp> Thanks PatrickDickey
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> tkemp: no problem. I hope you're able to get the fans running.
[01:05] <fluo123> just to see if its a good pc for ubuntu
[01:06] <fluo123> indecise between it and mint
 yeah tnx i will search for this may be i'll help some one in the future tnx for ur help
[01:07] <fluo123> do you think ubuntu is secure out of the box? like for safe browsing?
[01:08] <Myersg2> When I do sudo apt-get update I get errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5641925/
[01:08] <fluo123> how can one be sure he is not under attack/ not intercepted
[01:08] <briaman> I've just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 and I really wish I hadn't.  I've unloaded most of the shopping channel but can't get rid of the price tag on suggested apps.  What do I need to uninstall to get rid of this?
[01:10] <Myersg2> how would I restore my repositories to default? or is there another way to fix it?
[01:11] <Myersg2> any help?
[01:11] <benzrf> hey, is there a way to get actual mac-style alt-tab/alt-` instead of an unholy hybrid of mac and windows?
[01:12] <mJayk> bezrf: buy a mac
[01:12] <mJayk> benzrf: teach me not to tab - buy a mac :)
[01:13] <benzrf> okay, then can I get genuine windows-style alt-tab?
[01:13] <benzrf> I just dislike the hybrid
[01:13] <PatrickDickey> Install XP?
[01:13]  * benzrf sighs
[01:13] <mJayk> benzrf: first what desktop are you using
[01:13] <mJayk> benzrf: they all have different methods of configuring and different styles of "alt tab"
[01:14] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: Yes I do. (Ubuntu secure). I think it's only as secure as you make it. If you really want secure, either don't go online, or use a Live CD to browse.
[01:15] <fluo123> PatrickDickey: but liveCDs are not up to date.
[01:15] <mJayk> PatrickDickey: I cant see how live cd's are more secure, if anything they are less secure.  Although they do give you more privacy maybe
[01:15] <briaman> Sorry benzrf.  I'd help if I could.  I came here for help too.  It's been a long time since I bothered with irc.  Now I remember why.  Most of the users are dicks
[01:15] <bobbyz> fluo123: If you don't mind the extra click here and there, setting your browser plugins to click-to-play by default is always a good idea as well
[01:15] <mJayk> briaman: useful input there ive allready asked waht desktop hes on still waiting for response
[01:16] <bobbyz> fluo123: then you can worry a lot less about the most recent flash/java/whatever vulnerability
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> mJayk: and fluo123 I mentioned Live CD's because once you reboot anything that you viewed, passwords that you used, or any viruses that may have infected the environment are gone. Like I said, to be truly secure, you'd have to stay offline.
[01:17] <fluo123> bobbyz:are you talking about no-Ads, noscript, etc...? bleach bit isnt enough if you browse a secure (https) site?
[01:17] <mJayk> PatrickDickey: that depends how you set it up, but I've always thought Live CD's being more secure was a myth becaues they are older and have older "holes" ?
[01:18] <bobbyz> fluo123: I mean both chrome/chromium and firefox support an option to display plugin divs as grey boxes that require you to click them before they do anything
[01:18] <fluo123> PatrickDickey:yeah offline. but that isnt an option anymore. or else its just a brick
[01:18] <cappicard> hey. anyone with a toshiba laptop where the entire usb subsystem is shut down when one plugs in their ipad?
[01:19] <bobbyz> fluo123: it prevents drive-by compromises where a site attempts to load a crafted java or flash applet that can cause system compromises
[01:20] <fluo123> bobbyz: yes. but if you run bleachbit and then go only to a secure https site that has not been compromised, you dont need the java/script blockers
[01:21] <Peyam> hi
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> Doesn't Bleachbit just clean out your computer? I mean like your caches and other stuff?
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> Hi Peyam
[01:22] <Peyam> I used a alias matlab ='/usr/local/...' in .bashrc
[01:22] <bobbyz> fluo123: "site that has not been compromised" <-- That is precisely the issue...it's common these days for hackers to inject malicious tags into otherwise trusted sites
[01:22] <fluo123> PatrickDickey:yes.
[01:22] <bobbyz> and ad networks
[01:23] <Peyam> when I try to make a manu in menu manager and write this commend. matlab doesnt appear
[01:24] <PatrickDickey> !matlab | Peyam, have you looked at this information?
[01:26] <fluo123> Any good security program you recomend to keep your pc safe? like, a must-have?
[01:27] <mguy> fluo123: Really don't need one with Ubuntu
[01:27] <fluo123> add-ons?
[01:28] <bobbyz> fluo123: well, you can install ufw for managing iptables firewall rules if you want
[01:28] <phunyguy> fluo123: load up Software Center, and type in gufw
[01:28] <phunyguy> it is a very easy to configure firewall application
[01:29] <fluo123> itś that thing, when I had windows I could always run spybot+malwarebytes+ccleaner. had avira/avast and had komodo firewall that warned me everytime some suspicious access. In ubuntu I dont have that. dont feel verry aware.
[01:29] <dirte> howdy
[01:29] <Peyam> PatrickDickey: can't make it work
[01:29] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: No-Script on Firefox. Ad-Block on both Chrome and Firefox. I've got F-Secure installed, but there are other antivirus for Linux (yes, I realize that I don't "need" one). Aside from that, diable Java, and practice good security habits
[01:29] <tkemp> Not having much luck :/ PatrickDickey
[01:29] <bobbyz> fluo123: those are reactive security measures..you're running them after your system has already been compromised...Ubuntu will help you keep from being compromised in the first place
[01:29] <mguy> fluo123: Ubuntu isn't vulnerable to that kind of stuff
[01:30] <fluo123> phunyguy:any rule you recommend?
[01:30] <phunyguy> fluo123: by default it denies incoming traffic, except for what you set as exceptions.
[01:30] <phunyguy> you have to enable it first, though,
[01:30] <|nv|s|b|e> just install noscript and adblock, together, if configured properly should be enough
[01:32] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: One other thing I recommend is if you're going to a secure site, don't have any other tabs open. Or use the incognito feature that's in Chrome (and I think firefox also).
[01:32] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey: Firefox only runs in private browsing mode, it closes the rest while you do that
[01:32] <fluo123> I'll try the add ons. by the way, someone said chrome. google is evil now. If it wasnt for the tool for webdev, I'd stick with chromium.
[01:33] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: Google isn't any more evil than any other company.
[01:33] <PatrickDickey> IMHO.
[01:33] <harrisr> how do i make a shared folder
[01:33] <|nv|s|b|e> ghostery is a good one for ff also
[01:34] <PatrickDickey> harrisr: Are you sharing it with other peple on the same computer, other linux computers, or windows computers?
[01:34] <fluo123> PatrickDickey: In the past I would agree with you. now, I dont.
[01:34] <harrisr> with openelec
[01:35] <phunyguy> !nfs | harrisr
[01:35] <phunyguy> if openelec supports it anyway
[01:35] <fluo123> one more thing, does chromium has webdev tools/debug just like chrome?
[01:35] <PatrickDickey> !samba | harrisr in case openelec only supports this
[01:36] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[01:37] <dirte> Question: I have my private key on a windows machine used to ssh to my remote box, i coped the private key to my ubuntu partition, is this the right way to use ssh with private key to connect to remote server?  sudo ssh -i private_key.ppk user@my.box
[01:37] <benzrf> asking again: how can I make it so that alt-tab ONLY switches between programs and never between windows from the same one? (in unity)
[01:37] <moes> What is the command for starting unity
[01:37] <dirte> it prompts me for password for private key but says invalid passwd
[01:37] <mguy> dirte: generate one with ssh-keygen and copy it to the server
[01:37] <phunyguy> benzrf: that may not be possible
[01:37] <phunyguy> moes: unity --replace
[01:37] <fluo123> still about security, you don't tell me someone would go into a defcon contest with a 'plain vanilla' ubuntu and not peing pwnd.
[01:37] <animeBoy> hello. i just upgrade form ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. now i cant change of desktop environment. when i click in another option in log in screen nothing happens
[01:38] <dirte> mguy: I already created keys on server and locked down server to only accept connection from key :]
[01:38] <mguy> fluo123: If you're going to defcon all bets are off
[01:38] <mJayk> animeBoy: do you see the lists of other desktops ?
[01:38] <dirte> i'm able to connect from windows partition - can I copy the key to another box aka ubuntu partition and still use it?
[01:39] <fluo123> I'm not going :) . just to give a picture of how secure it is.
[01:39] <animeBoy> mJayk: yes i see them. i click on one but when i log in i end in lxde again
[01:40] <mguy> fluo123: It's plenty secure enough
[01:40] <fluo123> mguy:I'm not going :) . just to give a picture of how secure it is.
[01:40] <mJayk> even if you select another one ?
[01:40] <mguy> until you start installing every package under the sun and don't configure anything
[01:40] <phunyguy> fluo123: with that firewall, it is a good start as it is a very secure implementation of ufw.
[01:40] <mJayk> animeBoy: thats strange I would suggest removing the desktops and reinstalling sudo apt-get remove kde-plasma or w/e then sudo apt-get update the nreinstall it
[01:41] <dirte> Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic)
[01:41] <animeBoy> mJayk: yes.i click on options but it dont react
[01:41] <mJayk> animeBoy: since the upgrade have you updated?
[01:41] <mJayk> your packages
[01:41] <xxaM> LOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)
[01:42] <animeBoy> yes. i try to update
[01:42] <mJayk> animeBoy: and it all updates ok ?
[01:42] <animeBoy> yes. no error
[01:42] <mJayk> animeBoy: im stuck id try to remove one and reinstall it with apt-get
[01:43] <animeBoy> mJayk: i gonna try install open box or something
[01:44] <fluo123> how about fedora ? it has lots of security features: Policykit, SELinux, etc:. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/Features
[01:44] <phunyguy> please don't recommend other distros here.
[01:45] <fluo123> phunyguy:ok. why? (my first time on #ubuntu). are you a ubuntu-fundamentalist?
[01:45] <phunyguy> fluo123: because it is not allowed.
[01:45] <phunyguy> fluo123: this channel is for ubuntu support only.
[01:45] <ner0x> Trying to run ubuntuone headless because I'm on Xubuntu. It installs properly, oauth is set properly, but it doesn't actually sync anything. Any idea where to look first?
[01:45] <fluo123> phunyguy:ok. sorry. Do you know any # where I can discuss that?
[01:45] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: If you want to know how secure Fedora is, you could check in #fedora
[01:46] <phunyguy> fluo123: #fedora
[01:46] <mguy> fluo123: #linux-social
[01:46] <phunyguy> that too
[01:46] <fluo123> ok. thank you all :)
[01:46] <phunyguy> you're welcome :)
[01:46] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: Maybe even #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to compare/contrast them.
[01:49] <animeBoy> mJayk: i install conky- dock. log out and now i have a cairo session option. but whe i click on it nothing happens :/
[01:49] <Bollsaq> guvcview doesn't detect my webcam. What should I do?
[01:49] <Bollsaq> oops
[01:49] <Bollsaq> I meant my camcorder
[01:49] <Bollsaq> guvcview doesn't detect my camcorder
[01:49] <phunyguy> Bollsaq: first of all, what does your nick mean..? o.O
[01:49] <phunyguy> and is it offensive...
[01:50] <phunyguy> Bollsaq: also there may be some hints in dmesg
[01:50] <Bollsaq> phunyguy: Its my last name. What does yours mean?
[01:50] <phunyguy> WOW.... ok.
[01:51] <phunyguy> anyways.  Check dmesg for some hints
[01:51] <phunyguy> dmesg | tail preferrably after you try to connect
[01:51] <phunyguy> pastebin the output if you would like
[01:52] <ubulove> hi
[01:52] <phunyguy> hi
[01:53] <ubulove> is it possible to have themes on lubuntu 12.10 ?
[01:53] <animeBoy> any one have seen this before?
[01:54] <dustinspringman> ubulove: what sort of themes?
[01:54] <phunyguy> ubulove: is LXAppearance available?
[01:54] <ubulove> dustinspringman: I used to have a mac os theme on ubuntu 08.04 :P now am using lubuntu 12.10 on a different system.
[01:54] <c5nh6k2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2127649
[01:54] <phunyguy> animeBoy: seen what?
[01:55] <ubulove> phunyguy: Customize Look and Feel is available.
[01:55] <animeBoy> ok i  try to explain better.
[01:55] <animeBoy> i just upgrade form ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. now i cant change of desktop environment. when i click in another option in log in screen nothing happens
[01:55] <animeBoy> i see the options
[01:55] <animeBoy> i click on them
[01:55] <animeBoy> buttons shake
[01:55] <phunyguy> c5nh6k2: it would help to give the nickname of the person you are talking to.
[01:55] <LargePrime> dear ubuntuionions
[01:56] <SuicideSlade> Ubuntu onions?
[01:56] <phunyguy> !enter | animeBoy
[01:56] <animeBoy> but the icon next to my username dont change. and i cant change from lxde to unity
[01:56] <LargePrime> any thoughts on server kernel options or ubuntu 12.10
[01:56] <sam113101> it's ubuntunians actually
[01:56] <phunyguy> LargePrime: what are you trying to ask?
[01:56] <dustinspringman> ubulove: I have many customizations on my 12.04... not "certain" if its the same on 12.10, but I'd presume the MAC style toolbar and window appearance themes being GTK+3.0 should be similar
[01:56] <LargePrime> yes that is it sam113101
[01:57] <Bollsaq> Guvcview doesn't detect my camcorder and I tried dmesg and don't know what the blue hell this means http://pastebin.com/sXRW1w2c
[01:57] <ubulove> dustinspringman: I wanna try some themes from gnome-look.org but am just asking not to ruin anything on lubuntu 12.10.
[01:57] <LargePrime> If my ubuntu 12.1 server should have a generic kernel or the low latency kernel or a grsecurity kernel
[01:57] <LargePrime> phunyguy:
[01:57] <phunyguy> Bollsaq: it looks like the camcorder is detected by the system
[01:57] <LargePrime> or even some other kernel
[01:58] <animeBoy> sorry
[01:58] <phunyguy> LargePrime: that depends on your needs
[01:58] <lapion> Bollsaq, is your camcorder onnected via firewire ?
[01:58] <Bollsaq> phunyguy: its connected to the laptop via usb
[01:58] <phunyguy> !polls | LargePrime
[01:58] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: I had video problems with the 12.10 kernel as well. Going back to the 3.2 kernel solved them.
[01:58] <Bollsaq> Its plugged in via dual-usb could that be why?
[01:58] <dustinspringman> ubulove: its pretty easy to recover if you don't like a GTK theme.. I went through about 2 dozen before I settled on my current setup...which I LOVE.. =D
[01:59] <Bollsaq> I'm using my camcorder instead of my webcam because of regression bugs
[01:59] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: The 12.10 kernel being 3.5, that is...
[01:59] <Bollsaq> sometimes regression bugs make me think about ditching Linux entirely.
[01:59] <ubulove> dustinspringman: Nice :P btw a silly question I think ! :P If I set ANY theme this would remove my LXDE or LXDE stays whatever I do with themes ?
[01:59] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: I'm actually using 13.04 beta, hence the new guvcview and kdenlive and the regression bugs one of them has.
[01:59] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: Sticking with LTS tends to avoid regression, ime.
[02:00] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: not always. My printer used to work in Ubuntu before the LTS back about 2 or 3 years ago.
[02:00] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: and again, more regression bugs made that useful printer useless :(
[02:00] <dustinspringman> ubulove: hmm..not 100% on that... I'm using unity+custom toolbar+theme... I've not tried putting any GTK themes on LXDE.. =/
[02:00] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: Nothing's perfect. Isn't there a "+1" room for the beta support?
[02:01] <phunyguy> #ubuntu+1. SuicideSlade
[02:01] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: you mentioned 12.10 that's why I mentioned what I currently run.
[02:01] <SuicideSlade> Thank you, phunyguy.
[02:01] <ubulove> dustinspringman: lol :P that's what am trying to avoid u know! if i put any themes and lxde is removed an ****** :P
[02:01] <ubulove> dustinspringman: am ****** :P
[02:01] <dustinspringman> ubulove: I even have compiz running, even though not all the functions work, the basics do...like cubism and a few other things..
[02:02] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: Which kernel is 13.04 using?
[02:02] <ubulove> dustinspringman: I'll give it a try for a theme because I don't really like lubuntu's menu icon etc.
[02:02] <Bollsaq> Compiz freezes a lot, that's one thing I love about gnome-shell. No compiz.
[02:02] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: I don't know.
[02:02] <dustinspringman> ubulove: I'm pretty sure it wont "remove" anything... you'd just have to go back and re-select the default LXDE interface stuff
[02:02] <dustinspringman> brb..
[02:02] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: System info should tell you.
[02:02] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: softpedia says 3.8
[02:02] <ubulove> dustinspringman: yeap lxde won't be replaced. themes are just themes (checked it now in google)
[02:02] <SuicideSlade> Ah, ok. Out of my depth, then. :-)
[02:02] <dustinspringman> Bollsaq: I'm using compiz on unity, works like a champ. only a few special things won't work.. but I can live without those..
[02:03] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: info doesn't say what kernel
[02:03] <ubulove> am registering a nickname here ! yay
[02:03] <Bollsaq> I need to register mine somehow.
[02:04] <Bollsaq> or else somene else will as a perverted joke.
[02:04] <phunyguy> !nickserv
[02:04] <donnie> If I set an older 30gb hdd that I have as a swap drive only.. would that make my system awesome-er
[02:04] <devilboy> Bollsaq, /ns help register
[02:04] <SuicideSlade> donnie: Not really.
[02:05] <donnie> Darn.. because when I install a linux system, it's usually really fast. Then all the constant update. makes it laggy and sluggish
[02:06] <SuicideSlade> donnie: Perhaps you should inspect what is running by default - maybe startup programs are bogging you down. How much memory do you have?
[02:06] <phunyguy> donnie: swap space is significantly slower that physical memory.
[02:07] <donnie> Well reason I'm on linux is for my 'older system' which I like... And I have 1gb of ram on a system that all I'm using it for is maybe some videos, music listening, and webbrowsing
[02:07] <phunyguy> donnie: usually the slowdowns happen with more software being added as they can add some background daemons.  Also I have seen bugs with things like /usr/bin/X eating a CPU core
[02:08] <phunyguy> so that could potentially be happening to you
[02:08] <SuicideSlade> donnie: Assuming you're using stock Ubuntu, you might look into a lighter desktop environment, for older hardware.
[02:08] <donnie> phunguy: so how do I find out if that's the case?
[02:08] <phunyguy> telepathy does it to me also
[02:08] <donnie> SuicideSlade: I'm actually on xubuntu but no one in that room ever talks
[02:08] <phunyguy> donnie: system-monitor is a good start, as well as an app called htop
[02:08] <phunyguy> (terminal)
[02:09] <SuicideSlade> htop is amazingly useful.
[02:09] <phunyguy> !info htop
[02:09] <donnie> phunguy: sudo apt-get install htop?
[02:09] <phunyguy> donnie, you got it.
[02:09] <phunyguy> then run in said terminal
[02:10] <Bollsaq> devilboy: got it registered. thanks bro :)
[02:10] <donnie> Ok. Have it.. now what?
[02:11] <phunyguy> donnie is it running?
[02:11] <devilboy> Bollsaq: np, registered too! because I'm falling in love with this ubu community !
[02:11] <donnie> Root is at 17.0 cpu and it's /user/bin/X
[02:11] <phunyguy> is there anything utilizing near-100%?
[02:11] <phunyguy> donnie^^
[02:11] <donnie> Not at the moment no
[02:11] <phunyguy> ok, then that is not the case.
[02:12] <Bollsaq> devilboy: I prever xat chats. I wish the official Ubuntu chat was a xat.
[02:12] <donnie> could just be that chrome sucks
[02:12] <phunyguy> I am afraid your system may just not be able to handle what you are doing.
[02:12] <phunyguy> are you on regular ubuntu, donnie?
[02:13] <donnie> phunyguy: No xubuntu
[02:13] <phunyguy> donnie: ahhh ok.
[02:13] <donnie> It's just no one ever talks in that room
[02:14] <phunyguy> !nickspam | ________________
[02:14] <________________> phunyguy, not funny.
[02:14] <phunyguy> wasn't trying to be....
[02:15] <phunyguy> :)
[02:17] <phunyguy> !nick | ________________, this is also useful
[02:17] <rocky> hello guys
[02:17] <phunyguy> hi rockey
[02:17] <phunyguy> rocky**
[02:18] <________________> phunyguy, Congratulations, prick, you've just made my ignore list. Was it worth it to you to make your "witty" comments and snide in-jokes to your irc pals about me if it meant you are now disappeared from my online experience? Have a nice life
[02:18] <phunyguy> ________________: was just trying to help.
[02:19] <devilboy> ________________, you can find a better nick. I'm sure.
[02:20] <sam113101> I can't connect to wpa enterprise with my netbook
[02:20] <sam113101> ;_;
[02:21] <moes> Ubuntu-10.04 update manager downloaded linux-generic-2.6.32.46.53 and linux-image 2.6.32.46.105..this kernel will not boot
[02:22] <peterrooney> ________________: no witty comments were made, and no in-jokes were made.  He pointed out that you were doing something that is exceptionally impolite in a channel with in excess of one thousand users.
[02:24] <peterrooney> if only one person in twenty did it, the channel would likely become useless.
[02:24] <phunyguy> the constant parting and joining is enough to really make it scroll.
[02:24] <phunyguy> best not to add to it.
[02:25] <IdleOne> ok folks, lets drop it. was one nick change, not the end of the world
[02:25] <SuicideSlade> I usually filter out the join/part messages...
[02:25] <IdleOne> back to support :)
[02:25] <SuicideSlade> You can do it!
[02:26] <________________> peterrooney, devilboy, phunyguy, it was a joke :P
[02:26] <rocky> hi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds?
[02:27] <rocky> hi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds to have 32 & 64 bit adobe flash plugins installed?
[02:28] <moes> Ubuntu-10.04 update manager downloaded linux-generic-2.6.32.46.53 and linux-image 2.6.32.46.105..this kernel will not boot
[02:29] <phunyguy> moes, have patience.  I know it has been a while since you asked, but not much scrollback has happened.  :)  If nobody knows, they won't answer.
[02:29] <phunyguy> what are your symptoms?
[02:30] <phunyguy> also, 10.04 will be EOL very soon....
[02:30] <moes> phunyguy..It brings me to a log in
[02:30] <phunyguy> moes: text based?
[02:30] <coder7of9> i am trying to compile http://code.google.com/p/mod-auth-token/ on the latest unbuntu. i am receiving many errors: http://pastebin.com/ZP1Gpgcb
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> moes, Are you aware the desktop version of 10.04 is not far from end of life?
[02:31] <phunyguy> moes: and are you using something like nvidia or ati hardware for video?
[02:31] <moes> Yes I am aware but I need it until I get 12.04 configured
[02:31] <moes> nvidia 173 driver
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> moes, Cool, just a concern on my part. ;)
[02:32] <phunyguy> moes, how did you install that driver?
[02:32] <bcbc2> ls _release -a
[02:33] <moes> Through the addition driver panel 3 years ago
[02:34] <phunyguy> moes, try to log in via that console, and 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-173'
[02:34] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> what driver?
[02:34] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> ahh
[02:35] <moes> I am using the old 2.6.32.45 kernel to speak...I tried install nvidia without any sucess
[02:35] <phunyguy> moes maybe there is some confusion
[02:35] <phunyguy> what symptoms are you getting via the new kernel
[02:36] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> have you tried updating your kernel?  Seeing if you have options for the nvidea module?
[02:36] <phunyguy> kjfdskjhfewrjunv: that's the issue.
[02:36] <moes> I normally auto login in when I try to boot via the new kernel I get a logon prompt
[02:36] <phunyguy> kjfdskjhfewrjunv: his issue is he can't use the kernel that was just installed via updates on that PC
[02:37] <phunyguy> moes, define login prompt
[02:37] <phunyguy> moes, graphical or text
[02:37] <moes> text
[02:37] <phunyguy> so X isn't starting
[02:37] <phunyguy> please pastebin the output of dmesg
[02:37] <moes> That what it looks like
[02:38] <Hoyt> Can I remove downloaded debs automatically after installation?
[02:38] <phunyguy> I don't remember where the X log is stored in 10.04...
[02:38] <Hoyt> 'apt-get clean all' is not automatic
[02:39] <phunyguy> Hoyt: sudo apt-get autoclean  ?
[02:39] <Hoyt> no I mean, after `apt-get install XX`, I want the downloaded caches to be removed automatically
[02:39] <Hoyt> Just like YUM
[02:39] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> xinit?
[02:39] <Snyda> hey all
[02:40] <dirte> my wireless craps out all the time, i have to reboot to fix it, anyone have similar problems? (laptop)
[02:40] <trism> coder7of9: make sure you have automake, autoconf and libtool installed
[02:40] <moes> If I get through login and get a prompt what do I enter to continue
[02:40] <holstein> dirte: i have.. and i have tried other drivers to resolve
[02:40] <phunyguy> dirte: actually yes.  and a 'sudo service network-manager restart' will also work
[02:40] <Snyda> Question why after install of Ubuntu 12.04 lts amd 64 why does it not fully install?
[02:40] <phunyguy> so you don't have to do a full reboot
[02:41] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> I don't see an option for nvidea when trying to compile kernel 3.8.4-1 using make nconfig
[02:41] <phunyguy> Snyda: what won't fully install?
[02:41] <dirte> thx phunyguy I saved that cmd :)... i'll have to look for drivers holstein
[02:41] <phunyguy> Snyda: what is missing, or not happening.
[02:42] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> later all
[02:42] <Snyda> IDK I go thru the reformating of the Drive evereything loads up works fine then if turn off I have to reinstall for it to work
[02:42] <phunyguy> Snyda: not sure I follow
[02:42] <Soru> Good night
[02:43] <phunyguy> Snyda: what do you mean "if I turn off I have to reinstall".. are you turning it off during the install...?
[02:43] <Snyda> installs fine but when I reboot it shows a bunch of stuff loading but never does
[02:44] <phunyguy> Snyda: does it work after the reinstall?
[02:44] <rocky> hi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds to have 32 & 64 bit adobe flash plugins installed?
[02:44] <Snyda> no not turning off while install after I reboot after install
[02:44] <JosephF> does it stop loading at a particular line of text and just sit there?
[02:44] <Snyda> it works so I use it surf net then turn off
[02:44] <phunyguy> you said you have to reinstall for it to work... does it actually work after that?
[02:44] <phunyguy> oh i see.
[02:44] <Snyda> wont load up again
[02:45] <phunyguy> that is odd.  Is there something potentially that you are installing after the reinstall that breaks it>
[02:45] <phunyguy> like updates?
[02:45] <Snyda> runs thru 10-20 mins woth of stuff then stops
[02:46] <Snyda> no not updates like it isn't installing something correctly
[02:46] <Snyda> it seems to me
[02:46] <Snyda> yea it works after installs fine
[02:46] <Snyda> it just I can't bookmark anything
[02:46] <Snyda> I can just dont save
[02:47] <phunyguy> Snyda: you are being really confusing, not trying to offend, but I am having a hard time actually understanding what your issue is.
[02:47] <phunyguy> you say it seems to work fine, but not really..
[02:47] <phunyguy> I dont know what that means.
[02:48] <renothing> hi, all
[02:48] <Snyda> asked me if it works fine after 2nd install. I said yes just can't save ne thing
[02:48] <Snyda> forget that part
[02:48] <phunyguy> What can't you save...
[02:49] <peawormsworth> I would like to have a user login to a text terminal console from the lightdm login. Is this possible?
[02:49] <Snyda> So I can install as many times as I want run with out install
[02:49] <phunyguy> I give up.
[02:49] <linux_pinguy> what is the best Linux distro  linux pinguy or linux easy peasy??
[02:50] <phunyguy> !best | linux_pinguy
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> Snyda, I would check the md5sum of the ISO
[02:50] <Snyda> But if I install-reformat,install permeantly using whole hard) I can boot 1 time after install use but on 2nd reboot I get alot of command looking lines
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> or cde
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> cd
[02:50] <Snyda> help ya understand?
[02:51] <phunyguy> yes, but then you said you can't save anything.
[02:51] <Erealz> hello how do i give the webserver user write access to the www and every subdir?
[02:51] <phunyguy> Snyda: that is the part that I am asking for clarification on.
[02:53] <phunyguy> Erealz: sudo chown -vR www-data:www-data /var/www
[02:53] <Snyda> cause I have to reinstall so whats the point. I said at end "I can save but can't use them next boot" something like that
[02:53] <Snyda> k ill chk md5 but if that's ok ? after that/
[02:53] <phunyguy> Snyda: OK I get it now.
[02:53] <phunyguy> Snyda: it sounds like that is the issue
[02:53] <Snyda> md5?
[02:53] <phunyguy> yes, corrupt installation media.
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[02:54] <Snyda> k thx phunyguy: ill chk it
[02:54] <peawormsworth> is it possible to have a user login from lightdm, but end up with a terminal console instead of a unity or gnome window. Is this possible?
[02:55] <Erealz> dud that did phunyguy thanx you just help me install owncloud
[02:55] <Rad-> Hey, how do I exec startx on boot?
[02:55] <Rad-> Ubuntu is ignoring my .bash_profile
[02:56] <peawormsworth> Erealz: I think if you make the directory the same user/group as the user assigned to web requests in the apache conf.
[02:56] <phunyguy> peawormsworth: I'm sure it is possible, if you want to delve into the config files of lightdm
[02:56] <phunyguy> but peawormsworth why are you trying to do this?
[02:56] <trism> peawormsworth: you can definitely create a session that just launches a terminal (gdm used to include one by default), it's not very pleasant though, might like something like ratpoison better
[02:57] <Rad-> start x on login*
[02:57] <phunyguy> Rad-: something wrong with lightdm?
[02:57] <Rad-> phunyguy, what's lightdm
[02:57] <peawormsworth> phunyguy: i just want to make one user forced to go to the terminal... and it will run a text application by default. I would prefer this over requesting the user go to another TTY to login and then switch back to lightdm for usual login.
[02:58] <Rad-> Oh. I don't have a display manager right now, apparently.
[02:58] <Rad-> Minimal install seemed to give me only a shell
[02:58] <trism> peawormsworth: the sessions are just .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/, just create one and put the Exec= line to whatever you want
[02:58] <phunyguy> Rad-: yeah, you may want to install lightdm or the like
[02:58] <phunyguy> let that handle getting X moving for you
[02:59] <Rad-> I usually run X and a WM though
[02:59] <Rad-> that's it
[02:59] <peawormsworth> trism: I will look into that. I just do not want to bring up unity at all tho.
[02:59] <phunyguy> Rad-: ok...
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> Rad-, since you mention scripts as you might see here there are multiple instances of a startx usage. From a live cd I believe it is f10. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/startx.1.html
[03:00] <phunyguy> I need a break.   see you guys in a bit.
[03:00] <Rad-> ah. i need to create an .xinitrc lol
[03:00] <trism> peawormsworth: you don't need too, this is a simple xterm session: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642088/
[03:00] <Rad-> Btw, thanks. Ubuntu isn't my normal distro but school requires it
[03:01] <peawormsworth> trism: thx
[03:03] <JosephF> Rad-, what did you use to do a minimal installation? I'm wondering because I would like to do so. Did you use the mini.iso netinstaller or something else?
[03:03] <linux_pinguy> i did install alot of linux distro,  easy peasy, pinguy, ubuntu, fedora, vector linux, fedora.. the best , vector linux , pinguy , easy peasy , give it a try
[03:03] <Rad-> JosephF, mini.iso. LTS
[03:04] <JosephF> cheers
[03:04] <Rad-> does ubuntu use rc.d or systemd
[03:04] <Rad-> and also. cheers to ubuntu for including dmenu with the i3 metapackage
[03:05] <Rad-> still can't get x to start at login though
[03:07] <Jonathan__> I was wondering if someone had some ideas/help.  I am new to ubuntu and through the update manager I was told to upgrade to 11.10.  I did this and everything seemed ok, but after reboot I don't get a GUI but just a black screen (no signal).  Could anyone help me?
[03:08] <linux_pinguy> why jonathan did you not install ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 ??
[03:08] <holstein> Jonathan__: i would just install 12.04 or newer.. backup and reinstall.. it'll take less time
[03:10] <Jonathan__> I didn't have the option, I hadn't updated for awhile and had a notifcation in the top right of "update needed" and that I couldn't install any critical / new updates until I updated to 11.10.  I am very new to ubuntu and just want ot be able to see my desktop.  I can get a terminal, but if I boot normally (not recovery) it acts as if the computer never booted (no signal to monitor)
[03:10] <JosephF> Rad-, I've only done what you want to do on Arch, but what have you tried doing to get X starting on login? I think you will need to put a line at the bottom of ~/.bash_profile that reads "exec startx". I don't see why it wouldn't work on ubuntu as well.
[03:13] <Rad-> JosephF, well i'm actuall an arch user too and my .bash_profile is this "[[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx" per the arch wiki.
[03:14] <Ben64> Rad-: why not install the desktop version of ubuntu
[03:14] <Rad-> Ben64, what do you mean?
[03:14] <Ben64> Rad-: instead of going minimal and trying to add gui on top
[03:14] <peawormsworth> trism: i created a new /usr/share/xsessions/terminal.desktop file. Then for one user I switched the .dmrc file to have "Session=terminal". However, the user still goes into unity and the .dmrc files keeps switching back to say Session=ubuntu.
[03:15] <Rad-> Ben64, because all i want is X and i3.
[03:15] <Rad-> I have i3 running. just can't get x to start on login
[03:20] <trism> peawormsworth: just switching the .dmrc can be tricky with accountsservice being used, might need to mess around with /var/lib/AccountsService/users/username
[03:21] <peawormsworth> trism: i should have just clicked the ubuntu icon from the lightdm login window for this user and switched it to my new "terminal" option. This worked. So i am fine now.
[03:21] <peawormsworth> Thanks for your help.
[03:21] <trism> peawormsworth: yeah definitely easier
[03:21] <Rad-> Any ideas on why Ubuntu is ignoring my ~/.bash_profile ?
[03:24] <rocky> hi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds to have 32 & 64 bit adobe flash plugins installed?
[03:25] <Rad-> Also does ubuntu use systemd?
[03:26] <peawormsworth> trism: I am searching to find a specification for all of the key value pairs in the xsessions/*.desktop files. I will keep searching, but if you know of a link or keywords to search on this, it would help.
[03:28] <trism> peawormsworth: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s05.html
[03:29] <peawormsworth> trism: most appreciated!
[03:32] <sublim21> hey all.  what would be the easiest way to create a keyboard shortcut to move files/folders to another directory?  im kind of a ubuntu newbie
[03:32] <sublim21> have mercy
[03:33] <Rad-> sublim21, create a keyboard shortcut...? What's wrong with mv target dest
[03:36] <sublim21> Rad-: heres the problem.  I got like 4 hard drives, with multiple files, of multiple copies of stuff.  im gonna sit here, and chug through all the files and folers.  i wanna quickly move the files/folders to other files/folders
[03:37] <Nimble> Rad-, ubuntu uses upstart
[03:37] <lxle> #phillw
[03:37] <xodiak> sublim21, I'm late to the conversation guy, but Beyond Compare might help you out a bit...?
[03:38] <Rad-> mimble this is an answer to which question?
[03:39] <Rad-> sublim21, yes..?
[03:39] <Rad-> so let's say i'm sitting in ~/folder1
[03:39] <sublim21> Rad-: i don't know what upstart is
[03:39] <sublim21> im looking at beyond compare right now
[03:39] <Rad-> I want to move all the files in folder1 to folder 2
[03:39] <JosephF> Rad-: Ubuntu doesn't use systemd, it uses Upstart
[03:40] <peawormsworth> this should be connected to flattr or bitcoin for tipping.
[03:40] <Rad-> cd ~/folder1; mv * ~/folder2
[03:40] <Rad-> i belive
[03:40] <xodiak> it's pretty cool. Made for comparing folders, but you can ctrl select and copy or move folders / files to other drives. I can't live without it at work.
[03:41] <eN_Joy> each day i have this line in my log: Mar 23 08:00:42 zjd2013 anacron[31419]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (exit status: 1) (mailing output), how do i find out exactly which job caused the problem?
[03:41] <Rad-> eN_Joy, isn't there a cron log file somewhere
[03:41] <Rad-> http://serverfault.com/questions/136461/how-to-check-cron-logs-in-ubuntu
[03:42] <sublim21> beyond compare appears to be the program im looking for.  basically, i've done the classic, omg omg gotta back up EVERYTHING.  but now i have like backups of backups that were only temporary backups to begin with. :/
[03:42] <eN_Joy> i filtered out CRON logs, but can trace it back...
[03:43] <peterrooney> sublim21: no tool can simplify the task of straightening out historical disorganization.
[03:44] <xodiak> sublim21, Been there. It's easy to get a buttload of files everywhere. Trying to be better.
[03:44] <myersg> I installed ubuntu on my netbook but every time I try and login it gives me this error: Cound not update ICEauthority file /home/myersg/.ICEauthority
[03:45] <xodiak> sublim21, You get like 30 days. Not a month but more like 30 days of use. I used it for a year before I purchased. Like 1 day a month
[03:48] <sublim21> xodiak: this is looking good.  it's also on windows and ubuntu, which is nice.   im gonna give it a shot.
[03:49] <peawormsworth> myersg: not running ice here, but should do the basics and check the file is owned and writable by that user: "ll /home/myersg/.ICEauthority" ... and if file doesnt exist then maybe try "touch <filename>" while logged in as myersg. And also if that produces and error, check the filesystem is not full with "df -h" and also that the drive didnt mount "ro" or something like that.
[03:50] <myersg> peawormsworth I checked and it is owned by me.
[03:50] <peawormsworth> myersg: and I assume the write flag is ok too. hmm.
[03:50] <myersg> it says re--- 1 myersg myersg 0 Mar 23:21:25 .ICEauthority
[03:51] <myersg> Do I need ice?
[03:51] <xodiak> possibly stupid question... Is there a way to make my Ubuntu 12.10 window menu toolbar show on the window instead of the panel?
[03:51] <xodiak> (any open windows)
[03:52] <Rad-> JosephF, so apparently the problem is that UBuntu can't check that I'm on tty1. If I just do what you did with an empty "exec i3" it works. weird
[03:52] <peawormsworth> myersg: o crap... i have an Ice file too. I dindt know that. I guess we all do., I thought you were running something different. sry. Im not sure i can help you as I dont know wat im talking about. sry.
[03:52] <myersg> peawormsworth would it be ok if i did: rm .ICEauthority  to remove it? or would that mess stuff up?
[03:52] <myersg> hmm
[03:53] <myersg> well.. its ubuntu 12.04
[03:53] <myersg> 32 bit
[03:54] <peawormsworth> myersg: I dont know. but I suspect it is a bad idea to delete this file.
[03:54] <JosephF> Rad-: Do you mean that in the ~/.bash_profile you  just have "exec i3" ? Or in a different file?
[03:54] <myersg> I just did..
[03:54] <myersg> I am loged in now..
[03:54] <Rad-> JosephF, yeah
[03:54] <myersg> seemed to work..
[03:54] <myersg> don't know what kind of problems I may have caused though..
[03:54] <peawormsworth> myersg: Ok... I guess it is regenerated on login if it doesnt exist. Good work.
[03:55] <PatrickDickey> myersg: if you check, it should have recreated that file. As long as you can log in, don't delete it again. YOu shouldn't need to.
[03:55] <myersg> do you know the exact location of the file?
[03:55] <Rad-> i'm also kinda weirded out that i don't logout when i exit i3.
[03:56] <PatrickDickey> myersg: Did you encrypt your home folder and change your password, or install Gnome 3 by chance?
[03:56] <JosephF> Rad-: how are you exiting i3?
[03:56] <peawormsworth> myersg: you told us the file is here: /home/myersg/.ICEauthority
[03:56] <Rad-> JosephF, mod+shift+e
[03:56] <superboot> lastlog i3
[03:56] <myersg> I don't see it.. could it be hidden?
[03:56] <superboot> lastlog exec i3
[03:57] <superboot> oops...
[03:57] <myersg> and I did not install gnome 3
[03:57] <PatrickDickey> myersg: that's what the . means. It's a hidden file.
[03:57] <xodiak> ah ha:  sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu
[03:57] <myersg> how do I show hidden files?
[03:57] <xodiak> ctrl + h
[03:58] <myersg> it must have regenerated its self or something.. its there
[03:58] <PatrickDickey> myersg: from a command line  ls -la or what xodiak suggests from nautilus.
[03:58] <peawormsworth> myersg: CTRL-ALT-t and then type "la" or "ll /home/myers/.ICEauthority"
[03:59] <PatrickDickey> There was someone else in here earlier with the same (or a similar problem). ICEAuthority errors must be going around now like the flu.
[03:59] <peawormsworth> myersg: also, from the graphical file viewer, show hidden under View menu
[04:00] <myersg> ok, thank you.. like I said, it does show up. so most likely it regenerated its self upon login.
[04:00] <PatrickDickey> myersg: You didn't answer my first question, or if you did, I missed it. Did you encrypt your home folder when you installed?
[04:01] <myersg> yes I did
[04:01] <Flynsarmy> I have some WD 2TB blacks plugged into a RocketRaid 2760A. when I do a sudo hdparm -S 180 /dev/sdj I get "setting standby to 180 (15 minutes). HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setidle) failed: Operation not permitted". why is it not permitted?
[04:01] <myersg> I just installed tonight.., and I have now encrypted it.
[04:02] <PatrickDickey> myersg: That might be where the problem is then. When you encrypted it, it didn't update the .ICEAuthority file properly, so you weren't able to log in.
[04:03] <peawormsworth> is there a graphical way to create a new user that has an encrypted home?
[04:03] <myersg> no no, I could not login.. that was BEFORE I encryped it.
[04:03] <myersg> I did not just a second ago.
[04:03] <myersg> I did that*
[04:04] <chunkyhead> has anyone ever heard of using python to code by voice?
[04:04] <peawormsworth> myersg: did you create a new user that has an encrypted home? and using a graphical interface? I have been using the terminal for this. If you know how to do this graphically, please describe.
[04:04] <BrianH> Ok, I'm running into a major hiccup and I can't seem to find a way to fix it.  I'm installing 13.04 on a system that previously ran 12.10.  Installation from a live USB goes well and I get to where it wants to reboot.  The system reboots and I'm stuck at a purple screen.
[04:04] <PatrickDickey> chunkyhead: no. I've heard of a program called Palaver, or "Linux Speech Recognition".
[04:05] <peawormsworth> BrianH: 13.04 specific questions are in #ubuntu+1
[04:05] <BrianH> I let the purple screen sit for about 4 hours and nothing changes.  I force the system down, and then it loads with an error "An error occurred while mounting /boot"
[04:05] <Flynsarmy> I have some WD 2TB blacks plugged into a RocketRaid 2760A. when I do a sudo hdparm -S 180 /dev/sdj I get "setting standby to 180 (15 minutes). HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setidle) failed: Operation not permitted". why is it not permitted?
[04:06] <chunkyhead> PatrickDickey, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SkdfdXWYaI epic shit
[04:06] <PatrickDickey> BrianH: You'll have better luck in the #ubuntu+1 channel, as peawormsworth mentioned. You could try nomodeset also though.
[04:06] <myersg> peawormsworth I am a little confused right now.., I just installed it, using the wizzard. when I was unable to login the first time, I started the terminal (F2) and thn rm ICEauthority  and logged in using kdm
[04:06] <BrianH> PatrickDickey: how can I get to where I can enter nomodreset?  Just esc through the boot process?
[04:07] <PatrickDickey> !nomodeset | BrianH
[04:07] <BrianH> thanks :)
[04:07] <PatrickDickey> No problem BrianH Hopefully it fixes the problem.
[04:08] <myersg> I need sound help
[04:08] <myersg> it is not picking up my sound
[04:08] <myersg> on the top bar it shows the <| --
[04:08]  * PatrickDickey is out for a while. Have a good day/evening/night everyone.
[04:09] <myersg> and when I go to sound settings there is nothing to chose from.
[04:12] <ferronica> anyone help me regarding GEARY Mail
[04:13] <holstein> ferronica: did you ask the geary folks? otherwise, i might just use thunderbird since its working, and well suppported
[04:14] <ferronica> holstein, you mean geary specific channel
[04:15] <ferronica> holstein, where to ask geary people
[04:15] <holstein> ferronica: i would go to the site, and just ask where they say.. forum or email.. whatever
[04:15] <ferronica> holstein, hmmm
[04:16] <ferronica> holstein, dont know when do they reply
[04:16] <holstein> ferronica: http://blog.yorba.org/
[04:17] <holstein> ferronica: did you join the mailing list? http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary
[04:18] <ferronica> holstein, no
[04:18] <myersg> I need help with sound
[04:18] <myersg> or how do I file a bug report?
[04:18] <holstein> !audio | myersg
[04:18] <holstein> !bug | myersg
[04:18] <exploit> does anyone speak spanish?
[04:18] <holstein> !es | exploit
[04:19] <exploit> OK
[04:20] <abetusk_> Sorry for the stupid question, but unless I press a space after a single or double quote, it won't actually appear.  If I press another character after a single quote, say, I get things like this áçé, etc
[04:20] <netherlands6> hi I just done installing ubuntu and when restarting I got this error: error unknow filesystem and I see the command line grub rescue
[04:20] <abetusk_> It's a keyboard thing, right?  Where do I set this to be an american english keyboard layout?
[04:20] <myersg> how do I restart pulseaudio?
[04:20] <netherlands6> Im on the live cd atm
[04:21] <holstein> myersg: you can just kill it, and it should come back
[04:22] <myersg> how do I do that?
[04:23] <holstein> myersg: i found this by searching "ubuntu kill pulseaudio" http://askubuntu.com/questions/230888/is-there-another-way-to-restart-ubuntu-12-04s-sound-system-if-pulseaudio-alsa-d and it looks like what i would do
[04:25] <ferronica> holstein, subscribed to mailing list
[04:25] <holstein> ferronica: cheers! good luck
[04:28] <amigamia> hi if you are unzipping a zipfile from the shell what is the command? gzip <filename>
[04:28] <myersg> that didn't seem to work
[04:28] <amigamia> ?
[04:29] <amigamia> i just installed unzip. i guess i just use unzip filename
[04:29] <amigamia> blah
[04:30] <holstein> myersg: what the issue? maybe its nothing to do with pluse.. you shouldnt need to restart it
[04:33] <m_W> Hi, so I'm on 12.04 and whenever I try to apt-get update now I get 404 Not Found all over the place. I disabled all external ppa's and selected Download from Server for United States in Software Sources. I'm not behind a proxy or anything. It was working fine a few days ago, I am stumped :/
[04:34] <holstein> m_W: i might just copy a known good sources file to be sure.. and try pinging the IP's..
[04:34] <m_W> holstein, ok is there a good place to get a good sources file?
[04:35] <holstein> m_W: i would just google.. or use a live CD if i didnttrust that
[04:35] <m_W> holstein, ok
[04:38] <Rad-> So... Ubuntu doesn't have termite or uvxrt?
[04:39] <sam113101> you can download urxvt
[04:39] <sam113101> from the repos
[04:39] <Rad-> apt-cache search urxvt yields yeah and colortest?
[04:40] <sam113101> rxvt-unicode
[04:41] <noenoe_76> hello
[04:41] <Rad-> meh. you can tell i use termite >.>
[04:42] <noenoe_76> i wanna play,,,
[04:42] <sam113101> what do you mean?
[04:46] <noenoe_76> i wanna play nintendo64 win mupen64plus...but not look gui...
[04:46] <Rad-> Highest veresion of vte in ubuntu is 2.9 >.>>>
[04:47] <noenoe_76> how to install gui for latest mupen64plus on ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[04:56] <netherlands6> http://pastebin.com/ZavkNJTd
[04:56] <GlenK> so I just hit the ubuntu page and started downloading 12.10.  what architecture would that be though?  x86 or x86_64?
[04:57] <GlenK> friggen page doesn't even seem to have a mirror list...
[04:58] <JosephF> GlenK, it should say the architecture in the filename
[04:59] <GlenK> oh, yeah, right.  got truncated or whatever I'm trying to say.  anyhow, is there no mirror list on this friggen stupid stupid website?  dumbed down I guess...
[05:00] <JosephF> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads has most things inc. a torrent file
[05:00] <netherlands6> please http://pastebin.com/ZavkNJTd
[05:01] <GlenK> releases.  Maybe that automatically goes to mirrors?  bah.  I'd like to choose
[05:02] <Rad-> netherlands6, you're trying to umount your hdd while you're running your computer???
[05:03] <netherlands6> Rad Ubuntu is install on a external HDD
[05:04] <netherlands6> im on a live cd atm and stuck on it until I fix grub
[05:05] <Rad-> http://askubuntu.com/questions/177825/how-to-mount-an-external-hdd
[05:07] <Rad-> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/
[05:08] <netherlands6> sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /media
[05:08] <netherlands6> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[05:08] <netherlands6>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[05:08] <netherlands6>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:08] <netherlands6>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:08] <FloodBot1> netherlands6: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:10] <netherlands6> ok goodnite then this isnt helping at all everyone sleeping I guess will try in 8 hours
[05:12] <Rad-> netherlands6, did you format your hdd correctly?
[05:14] <netherlands6> ya I was on ubuntu few mins ago then it ask to restart to apply the update then I got the error: error unknow filesystem then I see the command line grub rescue
[05:15] <audio> can you add kde pannels and krunner/run in gnome-shell or unity?
[05:20] <maestrojed> I upgraded to Ubutntu12 and the optical out on my sound card wouldn't work. I am about to downgrade. I installed XBMCbuntu which is built on Ubuntu12 and the optical out works! Does anyone have any advice how I might get my sound card working in Ubuntu12.?
[05:26] <jimi_> my x server stopped working after upgrade... it shows an error message like unable to find module 1915 or somethong, and then dies...
[05:26] <jimi_> i had to manually load prior kernel
[05:33] <mnk> hi all
[05:34] <edson_> hi
[05:34] <mnk> I'm trying to install passenger 4 with multi ruby support
[05:35] <mnk> and I've installed passenger via apt-get on ubuntu
[05:35] <mnk> but I keep getting the following error:
[05:35] <mnk> .rvm/rubies/ruby-1.8.7-p371/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `gem_original_require': no such file to load -- phusion_passenger (LoadError)
[05:35] <mnk> every time I try and access the site
[05:38] <maestrojed> If Ubuntu12 won't work for me, is Ubuntu11 better then Ubuntu10?
[05:41] <audio> o.o
[05:41] <Noskcaj> maestrojed, there are two current versions, 12.04.2 and 12.10. get one of them
[05:42] <maestrojed> Noskcaj My sound card won't work in Ubuntu12.04 or 12.10. It use to work in Ubuntu10. I am trying to decide if I should bother with Ubuntu11 or just roll back to 10. My sound card is a must
[05:43] <Noskcaj> maestrojed, there is 11.10 and 11.04 , but maybe try 13.04 (beta1) instead. but ask for help on the driver
[05:44] <maestrojed> I have played with the driver a ton. Sought help for over a week. I will try 13.04.
[05:44] <Noskcaj> ok, good luck
[05:45] <maestrojed> Is the general opinion that 11.x was better then 10.x? It seemed like a short cycle. I guess that is what I was wondering
[05:47] <ben1253> i am unable to see any video on ubuntu?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> any packages for ubuntu that can download from soundcloud?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> firefox lags on it badly
[05:59] <amh345> evening all.   im using unzip to decompress a file.  is there anyway i can know if that file is completed it's decompression?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> amh345: try the commandline
[05:59] <amh345> ?
[06:00] <amh345> im using the command line.
[06:00] <amh345> err terminal
[06:00] <amh345> im trying to automate some processes. and i'm looking for a way to know if a file has completed it's decompression.
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> amh345: try some option to the unzip command
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> like --verbose maybe
[06:01] <sjihs_> hi, I am using zsh on urxvt/tmux terminal. The prompt displays irregular characters as this screenshot shows http://imgur.com/7KU6Xud.
[06:02] <amh345> lotuspsychje: im not sure if that's the path i need.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> amh345:man unzip
[06:02] <amh345> but thanks.
[06:03] <amh345> i was thinking for along the lines of a process id or something.
[06:03] <Flynsarmy> My ubuntu 12.10 is just sitting at the loading screen. is there a way I can tell what went wrong?
[06:04] <Flynsarmy> or turn off the splash screen so I can see errors during startup
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> f1
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> Flynsarmy:or modify grub for txt boot
[06:06] <somsip> sjihs_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> Flynsarmy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92276/how-do-i-boot-into-true-text-mode
[06:07] <soundsfromsound> Hello all, is this message going through? I've had some issues with Pidgin tonight, just making sure it's all set now.  Thank you.
[06:07] <somsip> !test | soundsfromsound
[06:08] <soundsfromsound> Thank you!
[06:09] <sjihs_> somsip: 12.04
[06:12] <somsip> sjihs_: so why is the prompt for arch@arch-Thinkpad? It may be that you have an issue at the server, rather than with the client. I'd look at terminfo issues myself first. Installing ncurses-termcap (or somethign similar) helped me when I had urxvt/ssh issues
[06:12] <sjihs_> somsip: Ah ok. I just set the hostname to arch
[06:13] <sjihs_> somsip: My worksplace provides support for Ubuntu and RHEL. while i myself use Arch at my home desktop. Hence the hostname.
[06:14] <somsip> sjihs_: it was ncurses-term, but your problems could be server or client, so YMMV in installing this on the ubuntu end
[06:15] <sjihs_> somsip: This is on the local shell. I have not remote logged into any server
[06:15] <sjihs_> somsip: just checked, ncurses-term has already been installed
[06:15] <somsip> sjihs_: then i have nothing
[06:16] <sjihs_> somsip: ok. Thanks for your time though
[06:33] <peawormsworth> i would like to close down the lightdm service under a terminal and then bring it backup for use after.
[06:33] <confrey> hi everybody
[06:33] <peawormsworth> I am trying "service lightdm stop" and later "service lightdm start"... but lightdm doesnt seem to come back.
[06:33] <peawormsworth> is there another option for this?
[06:34] <peawormsworth> and also... is "telinit" an option?
[06:34] <ashwin_live> grub is asking for password but i didnt set any. now i cant boot into any os .please help
[06:34] <confrey> whi can't I ever connect my asndroid phone without having errors? and I can't ever copy files to it without tyroubles
[06:36] <peawormsworth> ashwin... I have an idea... but it is not simply. Ill wait for someone else to help u first.
[06:37] <DanaG> Say, I have a LUKS-encrypted laptop, on Ubuntu 12.10... and for some reason, the password prompt is invisible every time I boot.  I have to either type my password blind, or press escape twice, to get Plymouth to show it.
[06:40] <dv-> DanaG: i get the same... i just remove the graphical boot from grub in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:41] <killer> i installed mate, now i m building a small app that needs to get the list of applications under different categories like accessories,games,graphics,internet,office,etc
[06:42] <pasqualee> ciao
[06:42] <pasqualee> !list
[06:43] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, At the grub menu on booting?
[06:43] <ashwin_live> wilee-nilee: yes
[06:43] <we6jbo> hi
[06:43] <DanaG> oh yeah, and in my case, the same happens both with intel KMS and with vmwgfx KMS.
[06:43] <we6jbo> todays my birthday
[06:43] <DanaG> (I've set up VMWare Player in Windows to boot the native Ubuntu.)
[06:43] <laurenr> happy birthday
[06:44] <we6jbo> Thanks!
[06:44] <laurenr> did you get cake?
[06:44] <we6jbo> No
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, Do you have any encryption?
[06:44] <laurenr> :( well make one!
[06:44] <we6jbo> ok
[06:45] <ashwin_live> wilee-nilee: nope
[06:46] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, Hmm, I have never seen that without setting a password for grub, so if you choose a grub entry any one you get a password prompt does it as for a users name as well?
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> ask*
[06:47] <ashwin_live> wilee-nilee: yes
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, I assume you are familiar with Ubuntu, however are you sure it is not the login gui?
[06:48] <killer> like in case of ubuntu-software center ,there are categories like accesories,office,System ...how can i get all installed apps under these categories using terminal
[06:49] <ashwin_live> wilee-nilee: nope, this problem started after i updated some packages
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, I just don't know to be honest, grub in general I am quite familiar with so I thought it pertinent to at the least ask a few questions, hopefully others will know.
[06:51] <ashwin_live> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642413/ i find this in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[06:52] <peawormsworth> i am wondering if the grub password option is a solution to the full luks encryption issue... where the /boot partition cannot be encrypted.
[06:54] <ashwin_live> also my grub.cfg is empty
[06:55] <theadmin> !recovergrub | ashwin_live
[06:55] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, the 40_custom is a user modified part of grub generally, I'm not familiar with any auto changing of it from apps if this is what happened.
[06:55] <theadmin> ashwin_live: The instructions here apply even if you haven't installed Windows, though.
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, I wonder if a purge and reinstall of grub may be what is needed, what do you think?
[06:57] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: If the system is bootable a simple "sudo update-grub" should suffice, though I've just joined and only got the part about grub.cfg being empty.
[06:57] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: If it's a deeper issue then yeah, that might be a solution.
[06:58] <hk_xghost> Hi all. Does anyone have a good idea regarding the state of bazaar development? I've read in a few different places that canonical has stopped development of bazaar, etc.
[06:58] <ashwin_live> theadmin: the real problem is that i cant boot into any os because grub is asking for username and password
[06:59] <theadmin> ashwin_live: Uhh... grub never asks for a username that's for sure.
[06:59] <hk_xghost> True.
[06:59] <theadmin> hk_xghost: Huh, no. Bazaar is still alive and well, all of the Ubuntu development takes place on Launchpad, which is a Bazaar host.
[06:59] <ashwin_live> this happed after a update
[06:59] <theadmin> ...Then again the last release WAS in 2012... I'm not sure anymore.
[07:00] <peawormsworth> if you set a password on grub, does it also verify the underlying kernel has not been changed? or is it just a superficial option to not make changing kernel options easy while booting from grub?
[07:01] <hk_xghost> I was asking about bazaar (which I know is in launchpad) because the beta2 was released about a year ago (July).
[07:01] <theadmin> peawormsworth: It's the second one. GRUB doesn't verify anything about kernels.
[07:01] <theadmin> peawormsworth: If you want true security, you want full disk encryption.
[07:01] <peawormsworth> too bad it doesnt do kernel hash checking or something. thanks tho.
[07:02] <peawormsworth> i am using full disk encryption, but my boot partition is not encrypted. Unless something has changed where full encryption is now "full"
[07:02] <theadmin> hk_xghost: This is really strange, honestly... They planned to release 2.6 in August last year but that didn't happen. Let me dig around and see what I can find.
[07:02] <hk_xghost> Yeah, that's the main reason for my bazaar question -_-
[07:02] <hk_xghost> One article was saying that canonical had stopped development because it had "realized" that it could not "compete" with Hg & Git =/
[07:02] <thrillERboy> Hi, I have two different partitions for ubuntu root folder and home directory, If I want to install ubuntu 13.04 when its released what should I do, just install it as previous time?
[07:03] <hk_xghost> theadmin: thanks a lot =)
[07:03] <hk_xghost> (BTW, I'm currently using bzr in my own home server, but was wondering if continued use would eventually lead to a "dead end")
[07:03] <theadmin> hk_xghost: Last commit to Bazaar's main branch on Launchpad is dated 2013-02-07, which is quite recent. I guess they're just slow with releases.
[07:04] <peawormsworth> theadmin: I was just musing over the possibility of doing a /boot content validation, to verify it has not changed while i was away.
[07:04] <hk_xghost> ah
[07:04] <hk_xghost> That's interesting info.
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, Here is a chroot link for using the live cd/usb to access ubuntu in root, it may as simple as updating grub from there and reloading it to the mbr, purging grub and reinstalling it, make sure when asked on a reinstall where grub is going it is the disc no partitions.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, Or purging grub and reinstalling
[07:05] <peawormsworth> theadmin: that would be far easier then my current solution of keeping the /boot partition on a USB attached to my keychain.
[07:05] <hk_xghost> @theadmin: Thanks for the data. It seems they're just (painfully) slow with development & stable releases of the tool =(
[07:05] <theadmin> hk_xghost: Bazaar is pretty awesome. I find it a lot easier than Git, SVN, Fossil or HG and even more functional, so "can't compete" is pretty ridiculous.
[07:06] <confrey> so, what's about problems connecting android phones to ubuntu? do anyone cna explain about?
[07:07] <hk_xghost> @theadmin: Probably. Those were the words the authors were using though, not mine :) I've been using bzr for my personal projects (6+ months) and it's been good to me so far.
[07:07] <hk_xghost> Setup was certainly easier than Subversion, in my experience.
[07:07] <hk_xghost> I have not used Git or Hg
[07:07] <theadmin> confrey: Some Android phones support mass storage mode. If yours does, just use that. If yours doesn't, the alternative is to install AirDroid and use USB tethering, wi-fi tethering or just a wi-fi network available to you.
[07:08] <wilee-nilee> confrey, I suspect it has to do with the android version, my droid shows up fine in 12.04
[07:09] <theadmin> hk_xghost: btw, IRC isn't twitter. The @ may prevent certain clients from highlighting nicknames. Mine works fine but not every single one does. So, just use the nickname. It also allows for tab completion on nicknames, e.g. "thea<Tab>" renders theadmin.
[07:09] <confrey> theadmin, thanks, it's what I'm already doing ... but I can't understand why we - ubuntu and linux user - must we suffer so much regarding a phone OS like Android... WIn users are laughing
[07:10] <theadmin> confrey: Blame Google for using that weirdo MTP thing... It's seriously strange considering Android is Linux-based :/
[07:10] <theadmin> Oh well, I say wait for Ubuntu Phone :P
[07:11] <hk_xghost> theadmin: I use neither twiter nor facebook, but thanks for the hint. I'll keep it in mind ;)
[07:12] <susi> Say I want to extract all the files in /usr/share/doc for browsing, I know I can do a "find . -name *.gz" but can I pipe that into gunzip to extract all the files it finds?
[07:12] <theadmin> susi: find has an -exec flag.
[07:12] <theadmin> susi: Use that.
[07:13] <susi> (or rather, how can I, since I know it can be done)
[07:13] <susi> theadmin thanks, couldn't remember the call
[07:13] <theadmin> susi: e.g. find . -name '*.gz' -exec gunzip '{}' \;
[07:14] <theadmin> susi: An alternative in similar cases is to use xargs: find . -name '*.gz' | xargs gunzip
[07:15] <susi> that seemed to have caused an awful lot of "too many levels of symbolic links" but otherwise it extracted
[07:16] <susi> at least i can browse now, thank you
[07:19] <ashwin_live> how can i check my version of ubuntu
[07:21] <theadmin> ashwin_live: lsb_release -sc
[07:24] <peawormsworth> what is the default runlevel? or wat is # in "telinit #" to return to normal mode?
[07:24] <peawormsworth> clue: # is something between 2 - 5
[07:26] <peawormsworth> well... based on wikipedia... im thinking it is 3?
[07:26] <peawormsworth> or 5?
[07:27] <peawormsworth> upddate: telinit 5 got lightdm login back... but no consoles seem avaiable with F1-F5.
[07:29] <theadmin> peawormsworth: Ubuntu doesn't have runlevels...
[07:30] <peawormsworth> theadmin: what is the alternative i should research? to get it into single user mode?
[07:30] <theadmin> peawormsworth: Single user? Append "single" to the kernel command-line.
[07:31] <renothing> hi, anybody can help me ?
[07:31] <renothing> http://pastebin.com/ZCDYa7Ck
[07:31] <ashwin_live> i tried to purged grub but now i cant reinstall it
[07:31] <ashwin_live> is it because my live cd is a different version of ubuntu
[07:33] <peawormsworth> theadmin: well ubuntu seems to recognize "telinit 1"... and F6 - lightdm turns off. And then "telinit 5" returns lightdm.
[07:33] <ashwin_live> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642464/
[07:33] <peawormsworth> update: "telinit 5" returns lightdm and all CTRL-ALT-Fx terminals... I was wrong before. its working now.
[07:34] <theadmin> peawormsworth: Well, I'll be more precise, Ubuntu does the following runlevels, 0, 6, 1, 2
[07:34] <theadmin> peawormsworth: 2 - 5 are the same thing.
[07:36] <peawormsworth> theadmin: thx for the info. and also. doing telinit 1  and later telinit 2 is not a good idea. It changes the running system in a way I cannot yet determine.
[07:51] <ashwin_live> what will happen if i delete /boot folder ?
[07:51] <theadmin> ashwin_live: Nothing good
[07:52] <ashwin_live> will i be albe to boot into windows
[07:52] <ashwin_live> theadmin: ?
[07:52] <Thete> ashwin_live: Why is your computer not resolving archive.ubuntu.com?
[07:53] <theadmin> ashwin_live: Well, no, because GRUB does that, too.
[07:53] <Thete> ashwin_live: Add the address to your host file fix your apt issue and then try and figure out why your machine isn't resolving DNS
[07:54] <ashwin_live> Thete: ?? . my problem is grub is not working
[07:55] <ashwin_live> now it is showing grub bash
[07:55] <gin95> does it show any errors?
[07:55] <Thete> I was looking at your paste
[07:55] <gin95> ah
[07:55] <Thete> just format that thing and reinstall
[07:55] <gin95> yes
[07:55] <codepython777> I'm looking to run a ubuntu system with 10GB Hard drive space. I would prefer to install a very lean version of ubuntu on it. Any suggestions on how to do this? Should i just try the regular install , or perhaps there is a nice vm already that i could just use?
[07:55] <Thete> codepython777: You could use the server version
[07:55] <Thete> codepython777: It's pretty minimal
[07:56] <codepython777> Thete: how does that compare with : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD ?
[07:56] <Thete> Interesting, I haven't tried that one
[07:56] <codepython777> Thete: I guess it just downloads the packages, that doesnt help
[07:56] <theadmin> codepython777: The Minimal CD will let you choose what to download/install.
[07:57] <gin95> by the way, is there a way to change the installation directory for packages? becouse i have an 1.5TB but its not the one ubuntu is installed in
[07:57] <Thete> I usually just start with ubuntu server and add what I need after that
[07:57] <theadmin> gin95: Most stuff that's installed goes to /usr. Symlink that to some other place and move stuff over.
[07:57] <theadmin> gin95: Make sure they're on a same filesystem, e.g. ext4 -> ext4.
[07:58] <gin95> thanks i will try that
[07:58] <theadmin> gin95: (you obviously need to do that from a LiveCD, you can't move /usr of a working system)
[07:58] <codepython777> theadmin: i was hoping someone would have already done a minimal selection for me -- http://crunchbang.org/about/ ?
[07:58] <nailsonlinux> codepython777, u can use ubuntu 10.04, install by alternative CD
[07:58] <helmut_> hi
[07:58] <theadmin> codepython777: Crunchbang isn't a supported distribution here. Besides, that's Debian-based, not Ubuntu...
[07:59] <theadmin> nailsonlinux: Don't recommend versions support for which will end in a month :/
[07:59] <peawormsworth> is it normal for sudo to retain password information between logins?
[07:59] <codepython777> theadmin: is there something like that available for ubuntu?
[07:59] <theadmin> codepython777: Well... Lubuntu is pretty minimalistic but it still eats a bunch of HD space sadly
[07:59] <codepython777> nailsonlinux: I'm just looking to only use 800MB max of space to run, prepackaged would be great, or else i can pick packaged
[07:59] <peawormsworth> i was thinking the above is a bad policy.
[07:59] <nailsonlinux> theadmin, thanks for the advice...
[07:59] <theadmin> peawormsworth: No, that's definetly not normal.
[08:00] <peawormsworth> ok. i am using 13.04, so maybe i will report this there.
[08:00] <codepython777> theadmin: is lubuntu well supported? looks like its not that bad in size
[08:00] <theadmin> codepython777: It's one of the official Ubuntu versions, so yes, it has the same level of support as Ubuntu.
[08:01] <peawormsworth> theadmin: it is occurring on my 12.04 TLS too.
[08:01] <nailsonlinux> codepython, i'm not a guru, but i would recomend something different, like archlinux or even LFS. but prepare your soul.
[08:01] <peawormsworth> theadmin: Specifically I am doing: CTRL-ALT-F1 and login as user. "sudo ls" and type password. Logout, login, "sudo ls" (no password required).
[08:03] <theadmin> peawormsworth: Yes, that's not supposed to happen :/
[08:03] <peawormsworth> ah ok. I would think login out would flush the sudo permissions.
[08:04] <AlexzAK> Hi, everybody! I have problems with video hardware on Ubuntu 12.10. I using it on Sony VAIO SVE1711V1RB laptop. It has AMD Radeon HD 7650M video driver. Both open source and proprietary (including beta version) drivers show artifacts. Please say me what to do! I wish provide any assistance with that issues
[08:04] <peawormsworth> I guess i will need to research how to flush sudo rights more carefully now.
[08:04] <AlexzAK> Is there are someone who can help with AMD video issues?
[08:05] <theadmin> peawormsworth: You can manually make sudo forget stuff by using "sudo -K"
[08:05] <peawormsworth> will do thx
[08:06] <nailsonlinux>  AlexzAK, have you tried the latest version of proprietary driver
[08:06] <peawormsworth> AlexzAK: I am not familiar with sony. but is that the laptop you have to shutoff and remove the power cord and press a special button to get into the BIOS??? Sony is crazy different IMO
[08:06] <jatakk> Anyone here know anything about i3 and/or conky?
[08:06] <jatakk> I'm using i3 with Conky to pipe info to i3bar, but it's not updating
[08:07] <jatakk> i3bar only updates once on login or when it's restarted
[08:07] <jatakk> I can post my config and conkyrc files if anyone thinks they can help
[08:08] <AlexzAK> nailsonlinux: Yes, I tried latest drivers including beta version, issue is same. But everything ok in windows
[08:08] <AlexzAK> peawormsworth: No, I can go in BIOS in a regular way
[08:09] <peawormsworth> AlexzAK: thats nice. I was testing new laptops using ubuntu live on usb... just to see how well they worked... and the sony model was the only one which required me to go home and read their user manual to figure out how to do this. Maybe it is just a "special" model i saw.
[08:10] <nailsonlinux> AlexzAK, I've a AMD/ATI board on a desktop, and i had A LOT of issues like you. it was fixed on newer versions of AMD driver
[08:10] <AlexzAK> peawormsworth: nailsonlinux: Do you know somebody how maintain thouse drivers?
[08:11] <AlexzAK> nailsonlinux: I hoped they will fix my issues, but three months passed by with no fix
[08:12] <AlexzAK> nailsonlinux: I think, that nobody knows about such issues. I filed bug report on proprietary driver with no feedback
[08:12] <peawormsworth> AlexzAK: I have no useful information for u. And I dont know any driver programmers. I just admire them from a distance.
[08:13] <AlexzAK> Is there are some "Ubuntu hardware" team? Or who is responsible for hardware support?
[08:15] <adriano_> .xchat2/budus.so
[08:15] <nailsonlinux> AlexzAK, peawormsworth, as far as i know, AMD give less attencion for Linux drivers, and it gets worse. Sony always mock us and change the hardware specifications, so many chip maker drivers won't work
[08:17] <nailsonlinux> AlexzAK, peawormsworth, i know it 'cause i had a Vaio some years ago... and ALWAYS i had to pray to make it just OK. even on Windows.
[08:18] <AlexzAK> Besides that I want Ubuntu working with my hardware, I want to help with that somehow
[08:19] <ashwin_live> http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.in/2011/06/recover-grub-live-ubuntu-cd-pendrive.html i tried the following steps but my boot menu have ony memtest . no windows or ubuntu
[08:19] <AlexzAK> Is there are some "Ubuntu hardware" team? Or who is responsible for hardware support?
[08:20] <killer> hey
[08:21] <Capprentice> Is there any one who is using Midori ?
[08:21] <AlexzAK> I will try to describe my problems to #ubuntu-kernel
[08:23] <quarkey> Hi there, I have a question reguarding sound quality and ubuntu with zenbook prime ux31a. How far off is the sound quality compared to windows 8?
[08:23] <ashwin_live> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642552/ can find ubuntu or windows images
[08:25] <killer> i want to get list of all softwares installed under category games(in software center) using the terminal
[08:29] <ashwin_live> which is the better way of fixing grub? reinstalling ubuntu?
[08:29] <nailsonlinux> killer, u can use apt-cache search *game*
[08:30] <AlexzAK> ashwin_live: I fixed grub from livecd... google it, it was easy to me
[08:30] <nailsonlinux> killer, or something like this, choose you wildcards :)
[08:30] <ashwin_live> AlexzAK: i tried but now grub cant find ubuntu and windows images
[08:31] <Wiky> 1
[08:31] <killer> nailsonlinux: you don't get it ,all installed packages under the category games,or like internet(which should show firefox,pidgin ,etc)
[08:31] <plusEV> 2
[08:32] <TheWeatherGuy> Hey Guys
[08:33] <nailsonlinux> killer, excuse me :( i don't have a answer for that
[08:34] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | ashwin_live
[08:36] <killer> .join #crunchbang
[08:37] <Shashank> i installed ubuntu 12.10 yesterday. it was working well but the screen brightness was not changing. i found out that it is a bug in ubuntu. so i searched on net and changed the xorg.conf file. now i am not able to start ubuntu, it is showing a grey coloured screen and nothing is happening . please help
[08:38] <ashwin_live> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642575/
[08:38] <ashwin_live> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642575/
[08:38] <qin> Shashank: did you make back up of xconf?
[08:38] <nailsonlinux> Shashank: try to use a backup file, usually xorg.conf~
[08:39] <Shashank> no, earlier xorg.conf file didn't existed on my system i created the file from command line.
[08:40] <nailsonlinux> Shashank: did you tried to remove it?
[08:40] <qin> Shashank: Did you try to boot into text mode?
[08:40] <qin> ups, sorry
[08:40] <ashwin_live> AlexzAK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642575/
[08:40] <Shashank> i don't know how to boot into text mode
[08:41] <qin> Shashank: press shift to get to grub, press e to edit, add text in kernel line
[08:42] <qin> i think you want to remove "splash" option too
[08:42] <Shashank> do i have to add text in the starting of the code
[08:43] <qin> Shashank: rather replace "splash" with "text"
[08:43] <Shashank> done,, now f10 for rebooting?
[08:44] <qin> Shashank: ctrl-d
[08:45] <Shashank> ctrl d not working. and the page is showing ctrl x or f10 to reboot
[08:45] <qin> right, ctrl-x
[08:45] <ashwin_live> how can i remove grub and directly boot into windows?
[08:45] <Jordan_U> ashwin_live: Something is massively wrong. It looks like when that grub.cfg was generated you didn't have most of the files in /etc/grub.d/. On top of that it's very odd that you have an ext2 filesystem at all, and a separate ext4 partition which seems to have no OS on it. Do you know how you ended up with souch an odd, non-standard, generally broken configuration?
[08:46] <ashwin_live> ext4 partition is my /home
[08:47] <ashwin_live> Jordan_U: ext2 have ubuntu in it
[08:47] <Jordan_U> ashwin_live: Why is your root partition ext2? Any idea where the other files in /etc/grub.d/ went?
[08:47] <Thete> ashwin_live: to boot back into windows you'd have to boot from a windows CD and restore the MBR
[08:48] <Shashank> nothing happening. a black screen has appeared
[08:48] <Jordan_U> ashwin_live: From an Ubuntu liveCD run *exactly* these commands: sudo software-properties-gkt -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mbr && sudo install-mbr /dev/sda
[08:49] <ashwin_live> Jordan_U: for what
[08:49] <Jordan_U> ashwin_live: That is, to install an MS style MBR that will just boot Windows (assuming Windows is installed properly).
[08:49] <Thete> oh cool
[08:49] <Thete> I didn't know you could do that
[08:50] <Thete> thanks you
[08:50] <Shashank> qin: it is not booting, a black screen has appeared
[08:52] <qin> Shashank: probably, using live system to edit is fastest way.
[08:54] <Shashank> you mean using a bootable usb or cd?
[08:54] <qin> uhm
[08:55] <Shashank> but i don't have one right now. i updated my system from ubuntu 11 to ubuntu 12.10 using update manager. directly from internet
[08:56] <qin> Shashank: Did you try to boot into recovery and.or older kernels?
[08:56] <Shashank> nope.
[08:57] <Shashank> i have to do that from advanced options for ubuntu?
[08:58] <qin> Shashank: from grub, recovery mode have option to reconfigure xorg
[08:59] <histo> Shashank: How did you manage to ugprade from 11 to 12.10?
[08:59] <Shashank> i have booted in .linux 3.2.0-39 generic (recovery mode )
[08:59] <histo> Shashank: okay remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file you created
[09:00] <histo> Shashank: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && reboot
[09:00] <Shashank> there is a screen showing different options resume, clean,failsafex..
[09:00] <Shashank> which one to enter
[09:01] <histo> Shashank: can you post a picture of the screen to imagebin
[09:01] <qin> Shashank: failsaveX, to see if it will work..
[09:02] <Shashank> it has again entered the same grey screen from the failsafex
[09:04] <chunkyhead> my teamviewer is not detecting my mic in ubuntu, please help!
[09:04] <Shashank> if the file is causing problem, can we open that xorg.conf file from windows and then edit it, i have windows 7 installed and it is working fine
[09:08] <Shashank> qin: if the file is causing problem, can we open that xorg.conf file from windows and then edit it, i have windows 7 installed and it is working fine
[09:09] <histo> chunkyhead: you would probably have to contact teamviewer support
[09:09] <Shashank> some software can show ubuntu installation files in windows
[09:09] <histo> !sound | chunkyhead
[09:10] <chunkyhead> histo, sound's working just fine. i wanted to know is teamviewer ported from windows to linux? because then the audio problem is understandable
[09:10] <histo> Shashank: hold shift during boot to get to the grub boot menu and boot in recovery mode.
[09:10] <histo> Shashank: then move the xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak and reboot the machine.
[09:12] <Shashank> recovery mode under advanced options for ubuntu?
[09:14] <Shashank> histo:recovery mode under advanced options for ubuntu?
[09:15] <histo> Shashank: yes
[09:15] <histo> Shashank: or you can boot to the install cd and fix from there.
[09:17] <Shashank> i have entered recovery mode. there is a screen showing  some options resume, clean,dpkg,failsafex fsck, grub, network, root, system summary
[09:17] <Shashank> which option should i chose?
[09:20] <Shashank> histo:i have entered recovery mode. there is a screen showing  some options resume, clean,dpkg,failsafex fsck, grub, network, root, system summary
[09:21] <lee__> hehe
[09:23] <histo> Shashank: root
[09:24] <Shashank> done, it is prompting my username as it is in the terminal
[09:25] <lee_tiger> 能用中文吗？
[09:25] <Shashank> now which command to edit the xorg.conf file
[09:26] <ikonia> Shashank: it's just a text file, any text editor you are happy with
[09:26] <quarkey> how much diff is there on sound quality on a live cd and actuall installed ubuntu?
[09:26] <ikonia> quarkey: should be none assuming you have enough ram to run a livecd and buffer audio
[09:26] <quarkey> :(
[09:26] <histo> [C after you login
[09:26] <lee_tiger> 想请请教个问题，在状态栏不显示输入法图标
[09:26] <ikonia> !cn | lee_tiger
[09:27] <histo> Shashank: After you login sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[09:27] <histo> Shashank: then you should be able to reboot
[09:27] <lee_tiger> ／join #ubuntu -cn
[09:27] <ikonia> lee_tiger:  /join #ubuntu-cn
[09:28] <lee_tiger> 在哪进入中文的？
[09:29] <ikonia> lee_tiger: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw
[09:29] <Shashank> mv cannot move: read only file
[09:29] <quarkey> ikonia, do you know if it's possible to get better quality with some drivers etc? I got Zenbook Prime ux31a.
[09:30] <histo> Shashank: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[09:30] <histo> Shashank: then try the mv command
[09:30] <ikonia> quarkey: depends on your sound card, it's support in linux and your listening device (and of course the audio source)
[09:31] <lee_tiger> ／join #ubuntu  -cn
[09:31] <ikonia> lee_tiger: /join #ubuntu-cn
[09:31] <lee_tiger> ？？
[09:31] <chunkyhead> how to lock a folder which is in my home?
[09:32] <ikonia> chunkyhead: change the permissions so only your user can read it
[09:32] <Shashank> histo: the command executed w/o any error, should i forcefully turn it off and then reboot?
[09:32] <quarkey> ikonia, the difference between w8 and 12.10 is rather big, 60-70% better with windows.
[09:32] <histo> Shashank: which command?
[09:32] <chunkyhead> no no, that way if anyone else is in my acc, they can also see. i want it to ask for a password. isn't there something like that inbuilt in linux?
[09:32] <Shashank> mv
[09:33] <the_bender> i agree there @quarkey
[09:33] <ikonia> quarkey: please re-read what I said is the limiting factors
[09:33] <histo> Shashank: if it executed fine after the mount command I gave you then sudo reboot
[09:33] <chunkyhead> ikonia,  no no, that way if anyone else is in my acc, they can also see. i want it to ask for a password. isn't there something like that inbuilt in linux?
[09:33] <ikonia> chunkyhead: you don't give someone your account, that's the point of user accounts
[09:34] <Shashank> what does sudo means. it is there in many ubuntu commands?
[09:34] <histo> !sudo | Shashank
[09:34] <chunkyhead> ikonia, is there a way by which people would have to enter a password to get access to a folder other than the one you stated? it's a home pc
[09:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: you give people different accounts, there is encyption but that is over the top for home users
[09:35] <histo> Shashank: we give people comand line commands in here because it's easier to explain than click here then there etc..
[09:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: the point is to give each user a different account
[09:35] <chunkyhead> ikonia, just answer what i am saying. i just want that folder to be locked that's it -_-
[09:35] <Shashank> histo: thanks a lot. :) it rebooted successfully
[09:35] <histo> chunkyhead: it's a multiuser system. Each user should have an account
[09:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: just do what I say
[09:35] <chunkyhead> histo, come on guys -_-
[09:36] <ikonia> chunkyhead: why don't you tell us the truth
[09:36] <reddot> lol
[09:36] <chunkyhead> ikonia, tell you what truth?
[09:36] <histo> Shashank: Now for your brightness issue.... Have you tried adding the backlight options to the kernel in grub
[09:36] <ikonia> chunkyhead: well, why you can't use the user permissions properly
[09:36] <ikonia> chunkyhead: why you are ignoring the advice and just repeating the same question
[09:36] <Shashank> how to add kernel?
[09:37] <ikonia> Shashank: why are you trying to add a kernel ?
[09:37] <chunkyhead> ikonia, i know how to use permissions lol. i just want the a window to pop up when i try to access the folder
[09:37] <ikonia> Shashank: what's wrong with the one you've got
[09:37] <ikonia> chunkyhead: why ?
[09:37] <ikonia> chunkyhead: the file system permissions should manage that
[09:37] <chunkyhead> ikonia, how to implement?
[09:37] <ikonia> chunkyhead: set the file system permissions so only your user can read them
[09:38] <Shashank> ikonia: i don't know much about using ubuntu,histo told me to add backlight option to kernel so i asked how to do that
[09:38] <chunkyhead> ikonia, oh my god -_- you dont know any other way so please tell me i will stop wasting my time here
[09:38] <ikonia> chunkyhead: why don't you tell me the truth
[09:38] <histo> Shashank: What laptop do you have?
[09:38] <ikonia> chunkyhead: why you want this "pop up password" rather than using the file system permissions as they are meant to be used
[09:38] <Shashank> dell xps
[09:39] <chunkyhead> ikonia, chmod <permissions> filename
[09:39] <ikonia> chunkyhead: I know how to use chmod
[09:39] <chunkyhead> ikonia, even i know how to use
[09:39] <histo> Shashank: have you seen a bug filed for it's brightness issues yet?
[09:39] <chunkyhead> ikonia, do u know any other way is what i am asking
[09:39] <chunkyhead> chunkyhead, the way i want it
[09:39] <chunkyhead> ikonia, the way i want it
[09:39] <ikonia> chunkyhead: yes, which is why I keep asking you why you want to do this instead of using the file system permissions
[09:40] <Myrtti> !xy
[09:40] <chunkyhead> ikonia, IT IS A HOME PC -_-
[09:40] <ikonia> chunkyhead: yes, that doesn't change anything
[09:40] <chunkyhead> i have only 1 acc ikonia i cant add more low on space
[09:40] <chunkyhead> ikonia, ^
[09:40] <Shashank> yes
[09:40] <ikonia> chunkyhead: you can use multiple users
[09:40] <ikonia> chunkyhead: using multiple users and 1 user will not change the disk space significantly
[09:40] <chunkyhead> that'd be adding another acc ikonia
[09:40] <ikonia> chunkyhead: correct,
[09:40] <histo> Shashank: let me look somethign up real quick
[09:41] <Shashank> ok
[09:41] <chunkyhead> ikonia, do u even understand what i am saying lol
[09:41] <ikonia> chunkyhead: very much
[09:41] <chunkyhead> ikonia, did you understand my question?
[09:41] <ikonia> chunkyhead: yes,
[09:42] <chunkyhead> ikonia, do you have another answer to it apart from permissions?
[09:42] <mohsen_> lubuntu has problem with Cairo-dock ....does anyone have such experience?
[09:42] <ikonia> chunkyhead: I'm going to back away from this problem, as I don't believe you are being honest
[09:42] <chunkyhead> ikonia, honest in what context?
[09:43] <ikonia> chunkyhead: well, the file system permissions are the correct way to do this, and the fact that you are low on space does not mean you can't use multiple users, as the home directories are only a few k
[09:43] <ikonia> chunkyhead: so I can only assume you have some other reason which you refuse to share, so I can't advise you
[09:43] <mohsen_> lubuntu has problem with Cairo-dock ....does anyone have such experience?
[09:44] <mohsen_> no any help?
[09:44] <chunkyhead> ikonia, other people in my family use it for tp stuff like 5min use and then off. that to once a week or something, so i dont want to create another acc. that's it.
[09:44] <ikonia> chunkyhead: I'll back away
[09:44] <chunkyhead> ikonia, you could have done that before thanks anyways
[09:44] <ikonia> chunkyhead: understood
[09:44] <Narel> Hi
[09:45] <mohsen_> ?
[09:45] <mohsen_> please help me
[09:45] <mohsen_> ?
[09:45] <Narel> I've a problem of slow speed in LAN mode with my RALINK  RT5390
[09:45] <histo> Shashank: Is it an xps 13?
[09:45] <ikonia> mohsen_: you need to provide information beyond "has a problem"
[09:45] <Narel> just 1,5 m/s
[09:45] <Narel> and I'm near of my AP
[09:46] <Shashank> no xps L501x
[09:46] <Narel> with another laptop and atheros chip 5,5M
[09:46] <Narel> I think there is problem with rt2800pci driver
[09:46] <Narel> but I don't know how to solve it
[09:47] <chunkyhead> oh anyone knows how to get the list of all the manually installed packages till date?
[09:47] <dr_willis> im not sure the system realli differantes beteen manually and 'automatically' installed
[09:47] <histo> Shashank: the only thing you should need in your xorg.conf is Section "Screen"
[09:47] <histo>  Identifier "Default Screen"
[09:47] <histo>  Option "RegistryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1"
[09:47] <histo> EndSection
[09:47] <histo> Shashank: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642680/
[09:47] <FloodBot1> histo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:47] <histo> Sorry for the paste in channel stupid client
[09:48] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73180/how-to-see-packages-installed-on-a-given-date-using-aptitude   chunkyhead    may help
[09:49] <Shashank> can you please tell me where to find this xorg file or command to open it from terminal
[09:49] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, thanks
[09:49] <histo> chunkyhead: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=892381
[09:50] <histo> Shashank: I thought you rebooted and X is now working
[09:50] <histo> Shashank: you could sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to edit the xorg.conf from cli
[09:51] <chunkyhead> histo, yeah that zip method i know. wasn't quite what i was looking for. i should be able to update that folder regularly. in this case i've to periodically zip and update
[09:51] <chunkyhead> histo, my bad didnt read down
[09:51] <surio> I set up conky to startup on system login, but conkey disappears short while later
[09:51] <surio> s/conkey/conky/
[09:52] <surio> If I run it on commandline by myself, it persists :?
[09:52] <surio> :/
[09:52] <surio> :-/
[09:53] <surio> I do not provide additional command while calling it on terminal
[09:53] <surio> anyone has come idea on this conky behaviour?
[09:53] <chunkyhead> surio, go to startup
[09:54] <chunkyhead> surio, programs, there select conky and in the command type conky -p 10
[09:54] <surio> startup applications on the top panel?
[09:54] <dr_willis> surio:  make the conky script wait for about 20 seconds befor it starts conky
[09:54] <chunkyhead> surio, open dash type startup first thing that comes up
[09:55] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, 20's too much probably some process is killing it
[09:55] <surio> I have edited it now
[09:55] <surio> conky -p 10 Good
[09:55] <chunkyhead> surio, log off and logon as soon as you do open terminal and type top
[09:55] <Myrtti> chunkyhead: luks or truecrypt might do What you want, if you wait 15min Ill get to my keyboard
[09:55] <surio> OK, anf?
[09:55] <chunkyhead> surio, it'll show you processes conky must be in the top 5.
[09:55] <surio> and?
[09:55] <chunkyhead> Myrtti, alright :)
[09:56] <surio> Will do and let the chat room know
[09:56] <chunkyhead> sure
[09:56] <chunkyhead> sure surio
[09:56] <surio> Ciao
[09:56] <Slart> are there any alternatives to unity3d for ubuntu 12.10? or should I hope they did some new magic in 13.04 to improve performance for things like moving windows without lag
[09:57] <chunkyhead> Slart, there's no alternative to unity3D unless you can install unity2D somehow. if you're not so impressed by unity you can install gnome ( i dont like it but it's aimed at simplicity ) or the new kde (windows like desktop whose latest version is EPIC)
[09:57] <Soul_Sample> Slart: unity alternatives? no. but there are a lot of other desktop environments and/or window managers
[09:58] <Soul_Sample> what chunkyhead said
[09:58] <chunkyhead> Soul_Sample, :)
[09:58] <surio> Weird
[09:58] <surio> Top shows conky
[09:58] <chunkyhead> surio, what
[09:58] <surio> And conky camu up when I logged in
[09:58] <Slart> chunkyhead: unity2d seems to be a no go, starting from 12.10 but I run the new gnome on  my laptop.. guess that might be an alternative. Thanks
[09:59] <Slart> Soul_Sample: thanks
[09:59] <surio> and I clicked on my desktop
[09:59] <surio> conky disappeared off screen
[09:59] <surio> conky still comes on top
[09:59] <surio> but not on screen :/ Does it make sense?
[10:00] <chunkyhead> Slart, gnome has a lot of compatibility issues. so i prefer kde. old gnome was better i felt
[10:00] <chunkyhead> surio, do one thing
[10:00] <Soul_Sample> surio: i think you need to play with the window_type setting in .conkyrc
[10:00] <surio> all eyes/ears
[10:00] <Soul_Sample> surio: maybe it's called differently, but it's the one that has settings such as: desktop, override....
[10:00] <dr_willis> surio:  conky may be starting. then nautilus or whatever is starting afterwarsa and conky is going underneeth. thats the reason for the  delay in the script running also.
[10:00] <chunkyhead> surio, open another terminal type pkill conky and then check top, type conky again and then check if that it again dissappears
[10:01] <dr_willis> surio:  this only happens at the initial login? or every time you start conky?
[10:01] <Slart> chunkyhead: oh.. haven't seen any of that yet.. anything major? or just things that need to be updated by the packagers?
[10:01] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, hence i suggest him that
[10:01] <surio> OK, let me try chunkyhead's suggestion first
[10:02] <chunkyhead> gnome needs to fixed lol devs needed for gnome haha
[10:02] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, i think it's going underneath because conky still running in the background
[10:02] <dr_willis> I think its more of the old skool way conky does things.
[10:03] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  yep. and the conky faq definatly state a need for a 'sleep 30' line in the startup scripts
[10:03] <dr_willis> My Fave conky setup for now -> http://helmuthdu.deviantart.com/art/CONKY-COLORS-244793180
[10:03] <surio> chunkyhead: yu. When I start conky& and click on desktop it disappears
[10:03] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, woah! 30? haha mine works with 5. :) i'm glad
[10:03] <chunkyhead> surio, you're using unity?
[10:04] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  not like it really matters
[10:04] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, it takes time to appear. that's it.
[10:04] <surio> conky disappears from the screen after I click on desktop, even when I start from commandline
[10:04] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  i got other things starting up getting done durnt the delay
[10:05] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, i'm a little OCD when it comes to startup stuff so.
[10:05] <Soul_Sample> surio: can you open your .conkyrc and check what own_window_type: says?
[10:05] <dr_willis> get over it? ;)
[10:05] <dr_willis> surio:  try some other conky configs. perhaps one will work.. and it will then show its a conky config issue
[10:05] <surio> Soul_Sample: You read my mind. I was reading your commants and looking at it: ;)
[10:05] <surio> own_window_type desktop
[10:06] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, can't.. not unless i get a chrome book. i was thinking of gettng one and looked at the processor, i thought i was in the 90s again
[10:06] <Soul_Sample> surio: try replacing desktop with override
[10:06] <dr_willis> surio:  those conky-colors examples  work well for me on unity
[10:06] <chunkyhead> oh btw if you're interested i can send you my conky surio
[10:06] <Soul_Sample> surio: also, if that doesn't work, you can try "normal". but override usually worked for me
[10:07] <dr_willis> i rarely even use conky any more.. just more clutter on the desktop with info i rarely need
[10:07] <Soul_Sample> dr_willis: conky is a phase everybody needs to experience! :D
[10:07] <chunkyhead> Soul_Sample, hahaah well said
[10:07] <chunkyhead> Soul_Sample, right pointed out, it needs to over ride
[10:08] <patr|ck> how can i check whether my ubuntu setup uses the nvidia driver?
[10:08] <chunkyhead> lspci if i am not wrong patr|ck
[10:08] <dr_willis> patr|ck:  run the nvidia-settings tool
[10:08] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, won't lspci list it?
[10:08] <surio> chunkyhead: Sure, I would like to learn from others :) if you are willing to share :)
[10:09] <dr_willis> lspci will list the card.. but not if the driver is USED
[10:09] <dr_willis> isent that what he asked?
[10:09] <patr|ck> yes
[10:09] <surio> All: Let me try Soul_Sample's suggestion
[10:09] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, oh yes. :)
[10:09] <dr_willis> or does he mean does it HAVE a nvidia card? :) lspci would answer that
[10:09] <surio> of adding override first.
[10:09] <Slart> patr|ck: you can try running this, as well..     glxinfo | grep -i nvidia
[10:10] <stormelc> lspci | grep VGA
[10:10] <chunkyhead> btw guys what does the grep do?
[10:10] <patr|ck> it says "you do not appear to be using the driver"
[10:10] <patr|ck> oh no
[10:10] <patr|ck> that explains a lot now
[10:10] <Slart> chunkyhead: searches a file or stream for a regular expression
[10:11] <chunkyhead> Slart, can't we just write eg a*
[10:11] <Slart> chunkyhead: so     ls | grep something    will search the output from "ls" and only print the lines containing the word "something"
[10:11] <Slart> chunkyhead: for ls that works.. grep is useful for so much more
[10:11] <patr|ck> how can i install the nvidia driver so its used by all kernels?
[10:12] <stormelc> how does the battery life in ubuntu compare to win7?
[10:12] <stormelc> I have read there were kernel regressions affecting battery life. Is that true?
[10:12] <Slart> stormelc: for normal cases I would say it's a little bit better in windows 7, mostly because the computer makers support windows 7 a bit better
[10:13] <chunkyhead> stormelc, depends from machine to machine. my friend gets just 20mins on battery on ubuntu 12.04 on windows he gets >1hr. i on the other hand ger more on ubuntu 12.04
[10:13] <Forage> good morning
[10:13] <Slart> stormelc: but if you put some effort into it you could get a much leaner system with linux.. but that will take some work and effort
[10:13] <surio> No discussion on grep is complete without this chestnut:
[10:13] <surio> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions."  Now they have two problems.
[10:14] <Forage> my system fails to start after resetting it because it hang
[10:14] <chunkyhead> surio, was your problem solved by override?
[10:15] <surio> I have to log off first... but before that I had to dig up that quote before the discussion lost steam ;)
[10:15] <surio> So, brb
[10:15] <stormelc> S1art - I run awesome wm on an old laptop. Does running a lightweight wm actually affect battery life a lot?
[10:15] <Forage> it starts untill plymouthd, showing the background image with the vertical blue bars
[10:16] <Forage> it never reaches the login screen
[10:16] <Forage> no errors are given
[10:16] <Slart> stormelc: you tell me, you're the one running it =) my guess would be that it does
[10:16] <lee__> #ubuntu -cn
[10:16] <chunkyhead> stormelc, what's wm?
[10:16] <Slart> stormelc: but there might be other things affecting battery time as well.. the wm is just one thing
[10:16] <stormelc> I have no idea, I never ran anything on it except for awesome
[10:17] <stormelc> I have noticed laptop-mode-tools actually shortens the life
[10:17] <chunkyhead> has anyone tried sudo apt-get install sl ? :P
[10:17] <Slart> stormelc: oh.. that's kind of odd.. or is laptop-mode getting outdated?
[10:18] <Forage> I tried recovery mode, running fsck and failsavex, but when using those two options it will stop working after the read/write mounting of the first driver (/dev/sdb5 xxx/xxx files xxx/xxx blocks)
[10:18] <Forage> I can access root, and run fsck from there
[10:19] <Forage> but it comes back with nothing
[10:19] <chunkyhead> anyone know where are the tray icons stored? and how to replace them from custom icons if they are in binaries?
[10:19] <stormelc> might be :P Ugh. I wish there was good support for optimus
[10:20] <Forage> I disabled all not needed mounts in crytab and fstab in case it fails to mount one if those, but still no go
[10:20] <stormelc> Battery life for the optimus laptop in Win7 is like 9 hours. 6 hours in precise with bumblebee :(
[10:20] <surio> Thanks Soul_Sample
[10:21] <surio> It works
[10:21] <Soul_Sample> surio: ^^
[10:21] <Narel> stormelc, you can use wine with bumblebee ?
[10:21] <surio> chunkyhead what does your conkyrc look like?
[10:22] <Forage> what can be the cause and what can I do to fix it?
[10:22] <surio> Also, do you think the conky p 10 is still needed?
[10:22] <stormelc> Narel - I haven't tried o.o
[10:22] <stormelc> Narel - I don't see why not though
[10:22] <surio> Oh, I lost the ealrier deviantart like you posted? Where is that again?
[10:22] <surio> !logs
[10:22] <k1l> stormelc: complains to nvidia that they dont support optimus on linux :/
[10:25] <Forage> no one got an idea?
[10:25] <ikonia> Forage: remove the splash
[10:26] <k1l> !away > surio|afk
[10:26] <Forage> ikonia: that's a grub settings, no?
[10:26] <ikonia> Forage: correct
[10:26] <makoto> greetings. is it possible to reomve the search integration and cloud rubbish from ubuntu?
[10:27] <jrtappers> makoto, Which cloud parts? The dash? Ubuntu One?
[10:27] <Slart> makoto: aren't those "features" regular packages? might want to search for "unity" with  apt-cache search
[10:27] <ikonia> !adlens | makoto
[10:27] <Forage> ikonia: I doubt that that will change anything, it has always worked, but I'll give it a go to see if I get at least an error to work with
[10:28] <makoto> i haven't installed ubuntu yet, just wanted to know how deeply rooted those "features" were
[10:28] <jrtappers> makoto, http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash
[10:28] <ikonia> Forage: I don't think it will fix it, but it will remove the splash so you can see why it's hanging
[10:28] <jrtappers> makoto, First answer shows a switch to disable online search results
[10:28] <makoto> would that stop all traffic to/from the internet when using the search?
[10:28] <jrtappers> makoto, Should do
[10:29] <ikonia> makoto: yes
[10:29] <makoto> awesome. thanks.
[10:29] <Forage> ikonia: GRUB_TERMINAL=console?
[10:29] <ikonia> Forage: no, the splash option
[10:29] <makoto> i'll be back later after installing
[10:29] <jrtappers> makoto, Dualboot?
[10:29] <ars23> hi... does anybody know a good program for simulating electronic schemes? a program like pspice, for example!
[10:30] <Slart> ars23: I think there are a few in the repositories.. don't remember names though
[10:30] <jrtappers> ars23, For simulation of electronics Yenka is good, if you only use it at home its free
[10:30] <makoto> jrtappers: yep. i had mint on my thinkpad but i had to rma it and put windows back on :(
[10:31] <Slart> !info ngspice | ars23
[10:31] <ars23> thanks jrtappers
[10:31] <jrtappers> makoto, Make sure to set swappiness down after install
[10:31] <jrtappers> ars23, thats ok
[10:31] <makoto> jrtappers: it's turned up by default?
[10:32] <jrtappers> makoto, It defaults to 60
[10:32] <mcalexey> hi, is there some interesting commands to attract loggined in system user attention? something like "write user", "eject /dev/dvd1"
[10:32] <k1l> makoto: in 13.04 there will be extended settings to how and what will search where. and an easy off switch
[10:32] <jrtappers> mcalexey, Terminal or gui?
[10:32] <makoto> k1l: is it worth holding out for the release?
[10:33] <ars23> ubottu i tried ngspice without gui and you know, i'm new to electronics and i must create and test some circuits... so i need a simple program...
[10:33] <mcalexey> jrtappers, anything
[10:33] <surio> chunkyhead: Are you there?
[10:33] <jrtappers> mcalexey, See my previous message, it the logged in user attermianl or gui
[10:34] <surio> Soul_Sample: Is it necessary for the p 10 option in conky?
[10:34] <Slart> !info gspiceui | ars23
[10:34] <jrtappers> mcalexey, You can eject drives, play music, all sorts, popups in GUI, Message in termal
[10:34] <Slart> ars23: ubottu is just a bot..he/she/it just prints out information about the packages so I don't have to cut and paste
[10:35] <Slart> ars23: from what I remember pspice isn't very.. user friendly in the beginning.. you might want to look at some other stuff as well
[10:35] <mcalexey> jrtappers, and how to do gui popup?
[10:36] <jrtappers> mcalexey, You would use alert
[10:36] <ars23> yeah... but i don't know some other programs... i tried geda but i found that it's only for creating/editing a scheme...
[10:36] <surio> Soul_Sample: there?
[10:36] <k1l> makoto: i think the 13,04 is an advantage to 12.10
[10:36] <Soul_Sample> surio: not sure, what is it for?
[10:37] <surio> Let me copy from the log.....
 surio, programs, there select conky and in the command type conky -p 10
[10:37] <jrtappers> mcalexey, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1240828
[10:37] <mcalexey> jrtappers, ?
 surio:  make the conky script wait for about 20 seconds befor it starts conky
[10:37] <ars23> and  gspiceui... or am I stupid and don't know to use it or i can't find the results in a graphic way
 dr_willis, 20's too much probably some process is killing it
[10:37] <mcalexey> jrtappers, ok, thanks!
[10:37] <rKiller> where am I??
[10:38] <surio> rKiller: in a galaxy far far way ;)
[10:38] <jrtappers> mcalexey, Thats ok, and they resolve the problem on that forum page
[10:39] <surio> Soul_Sample: I assumed that p 10 option was for delayed start?
[10:40] <Soul_Sample> surio: could be, makes sense
[10:40] <surio> Leave it in?
[10:41] <Slart> ars23: I can't really help you with ngspice or gspiceui.. it's been over 20 years since I messed with this stuff
[10:43] <aweroi> hello folks, I'm getting no response from ubuntustudio, so let me ask this here: if I install 13.04Beta 1, do I have to install 13.04 again when it's out or can I do a simple upgrade with the updater?
[10:43] <Sonikk> aweroi: you dont have to install it again. if you are in 12.10 then just use update-manager -d to upgrade
[10:44] <k1l> aweroi: no new install needed. but questions to unstable versions suit better into #ubuntu+1 :)
[10:44] <aweroi> ok thanks
[10:48] <Forage> ikonia: http://s7.postimg.org/t06ya15ff/IMAG0128.jpg
[10:48] <ars23> that's ok Slart
[10:48] <Forage> ikonia: this is all it gives me
[10:48] <Forage> all [ok] behind the lines
[10:52] <nubbins> hello
[10:52] <cfhowlett> nubbins, greetings
[10:53] <nubbins> gotta a couple questions, kinda got myself stuck installing linux
[10:53] <cfhowlett> nubbins, provide details and ask ...
[10:53] <swrh> hi. are there any developers around?
[10:54] <k1l> !ask | swrh
[10:54] <cfhowlett> swrh, maybe on #ubuntu-devel ???
[10:56] <swrh> kil, I wasn't gonna do that, but.. anyway
[10:56] <swrh> cfhowlett, thanks
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:57] <nubbins> ok so long story short, I used unetbootin to run a live environment off of my c:\ (main partition with my windows 7 OS), I did this to install BT5r3 to my d:\ (a separate physical hdd). It installed however when I go to boot up d:\ it blank screen's with the blinking underscore top left. I can't boot back into windows but thats not too much of an issue. Anyway all I can get to boot up is the live environment off my c:\. Now the issu
[10:58] <nubbins> "ubiquity" wont run so I am unable to attempt an re-install to get linux running.
[10:58] <Myrtti> nubbins: first of all a technical note, IRC has a character limit to a message, you got cut off
[10:58] <nubbins> yeah i saw that
[10:58] <Myrtti> at "Now the iss"
[10:58] <Myrtti> nubbins: secondly, this is #ubuntu, not the support channel for Backtrack
[10:59] <nubbins> sorry I was unable to access their forums or any of their webpages for some reason until recently so I tried here first
[10:59] <Myrtti> !backtrack | nubbins
[11:00] <nubbins> ok thank you anyway
[11:14] <gr8> "hud-service" and "unity-panel-service" are eating up all my resources. what to do against that?
[11:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> now I'm not asking an opinion, I just need to know what I tell ubottu or best-bot to get alternatives to a software.
[11:15] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: the topic in #ubuntu-bestbot
[11:15] <stupidBYdefault> hello.. can someone please give me instructions of -  how to acomplished 2 listen to the sound of mic at the same time of listening audio output
[11:16] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: oops, wrong channel
[11:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: wrong channel to talk to me in or wrong channel given?
[11:16] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: #ubuntu-bots,
[11:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> groovy
[11:17] <stupidBYdefault> hello.. can someone please give me instructions of -  how to acomplished 2 listen to the sound of mic at the same time of listening audio output? - example: listen 2 what is recording..
[11:18] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, try pactl load-module module-loopback.
[11:18] <stupidBYdefault> cronus, thank u
[11:18] <stupidBYdefault> what do i need to do?
[11:19] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules has info on the options of the module
[11:19] <stupidBYdefault> cronus, thank u
[11:20] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, just run the command and make sure your mic is not muted. this should just work
[11:20] <stupidBYdefault> cronus, can u give ne a detailed help? i dont know myself on ubuntu at all
[11:21] <stupidBYdefault> so. i guess i need to open terminal.. right?
[11:21] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, start a terminal using alt+ctl+t
[11:21] <stupidBYdefault> did
[11:21] <stupidBYdefault> ready
[11:22] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, and copy+paste the command pactl load-module module-loopback
[11:22] <stupidBYdefault> cronus, ready
[11:22] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, then press enter
[11:23] <stupidBYdefault> cronus! Congratz!
[11:24] <stupidBYdefault> Thank u very much!
[11:24] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, np
[11:28] <stupidBYdefault> cronus?
[11:28] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, yes?
[11:29] <Forage> GDM fails to start after a system crash. The system hangs at the splash screen with no error given. When disabling the splash, all things are started fine but GDM lists with a [failed]
[11:29] <Forage> I tried reinstalling gdm, to no avail
[11:30] <Myrtti> Forage: which version of Ubuntu?
[11:30] <Forage> 12.10 gnome remix
[11:30] <Myrtti> right, don't know anything about gnome remix.
[11:31] <Forage> I did install all gnome3 ppa packages
[11:31] <Forage> It all worked fine untill the crash
[11:32] <Forage> is there any way to find out why gdm fails to start?
[11:33] <stupidBYdefault> 1Q.. Does linux - ubuntu 12.04 lts, save some data of donwload/install to some folder and could be "stolen"? like... for example.. i have a very bad connection, and every computer i fix, i install linux.. now.. do to a slow connection, i takes 3 days to download/install software.. -> is it possible to - when once donwloaded (copy-paste) to some folder, and lather paste it to another computer? and than just let the updates runni
[11:33] <stupidBYdefault> ng?
[11:33] <pppZero> stupidBYdefault,  ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:34] <stupidBYdefault> i know.. copy - paste this to terminal.. :)
[11:34] <stupidBYdefault> wow
[11:34] <stupidBYdefault> what i see now?
[11:35] <pppZero> that's the packages your computer has downloaded in the past, waiting to be copied to another machine to save you some download time
[11:35] <stupidBYdefault> ooo, nice... ok.. am.. where can i found those files on HD?
[11:36] <pppZero> in /var/cache/apt/archives/  ;)
[11:36] <stupidBYdefault> :) thank u pppZero  :)
[11:47] <brightness> i cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons.
[11:48] <brightness> please help
[11:48] <man_> Hi, when I start Chrome through a keyboard combination, the window does not get focus
[11:48] <man_> What can I do about that? If I start it from the unity launcher, it works
[11:48] <man_> I want to be able to launch a browser with key combination and then enter the url
[11:50] <brightness>  i cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons. please help
[11:52] <brightness>  i cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons. please help
[11:52] <ddssc> anyone knows how to jail proftpd users to their home dir? as in that they're not allowed to view anything else besides their home dir?
[11:54] <ikonia> ddssc: there is a setting in the config file
[11:54] <jrtappers> If I install ubuntu as a dual-boot, can I still use FDE, only on the ubuntu side?
[11:54] <ikonia> ddssc: basically tell it to use real users, and activate the chroot option
[11:54] <ikonia> jrtappers: FDE ?
[11:54] <brightness>  i cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons.please help
[11:54] <jrtappers> ikonia, Full Disk Encryption
[11:54] <ikonia> jrtappers: that has nothing to do with dual boot
[11:55] <ikonia> jrtappers: the point of dual boot is that they are totally seperate
[11:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Heh, I've seen some folk get locked out of their own machine over fde.
[11:55] <jrtappers> ikonia, Its that I can see the FDE tickbox only next to the wipe option
[11:55] <ikonia> jrtappers: possibly because you will need to encypt your install at install time
[11:55] <ikonia> jrtappers: I'd really suggest you think about if you need this though
[11:56] <su3j8ggijefj> can someone help me with regex ? i need to search for a patter that is a variable is that possible ? something like this : 	p = re.compile(thisvariable[1])
[11:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrtappers: what ikonia said. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone get stuck out of their machine over fde.
[11:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> su3j8ggijefj: what language?
[11:57] <su3j8ggijefj> python3
[11:57] <Forage> is there no one who can tell me how to find out why GDM fails to start and how I can fix it?
[11:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a #python channel, perhaps?
[11:57] <su3j8ggijefj> im new to irc
[11:57] <cfhowlett> !python
[11:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: what is the nature of the failure?
[11:58] <ddssc> ikonia, DefaultRoot ~ , yes. I didnt form my question well, I want to be able to chroot each individial user to a specific dir, not necessarily their home dir.
[11:58] <ikonia> ddssc: I don't believe you can map users to specific dir's I think it maps to their home drive, I could be wrong though
[11:58] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: my system crashed so I had to reset it, now starting up hangs at the splash screen
[11:59] <suore> Hi, i've problem with QT Creator - cannot access to 'Desing'
[11:59] <suore> its grey
[11:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: what were you doing to make it crash?
[11:59] <su3j8ggijefj> how can i connect to #python ( im new to irc  )
[11:59] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: exiting a game
[11:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> su3j8ggijefj: type /join #python
[12:00] <su3j8ggijefj> thanks ntzrmtthihu777
[12:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: try to boot and hit escape at the splash, should make the processes and such show up, get a bit more info
[12:01] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah I disabled the splah completely by altering grub to get that info
[12:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm. can you get into a tty?
[12:01] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[12:01] <su3j8ggijefj> now i have another problem :  #python-unregistered :Cannot send to channel how can i fix this ?
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !register
[12:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> su3j8ggijefj: /msg nickserv help will tell you how to register and such.
[12:02] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: with splash disabled it only tells me gdm failed to start, no reason why
[12:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:03] <Forage> 12.10 gnome remix with all gnome3 ppa packages updated
[12:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: you know, as much as I hate distro elitism "Pinguy/Gnome Remix/etc is not supported here" and all, but why not just go with vanilla precise and install gnome-shell yourself?
[12:04] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: it has been running fine for half a year, and the crash after exiting the game has occured before
[12:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> what game
[12:05] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: gnome remix is basically the same as doing it manually
[12:05] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: Heroes of Newerth
[12:06] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: reinstalled the video card drivers as well just in case, but still no diffference
[12:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> is that a native ubuntu game or what? not big on gaming outside of design or emulation
[12:06] <ElectricDuck> How do I launch the AMD Control Center from the terminal?
[12:06] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: no, http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/
[12:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, a browser game.
[12:07] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: no
[12:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> or nope
[12:07] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: I don't care much about that game crashing when I exit
[12:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: can you get any sort of access to your system, tty or anything?
[12:08] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777:
[12:08] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[12:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> willing to try somethin?
[12:08] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: anything to get it working again ;-)
[12:08] <companion> btw some people have trouble accessing my website on Ubuntu they claim it does not load. Can like 5 of you peeps try to load this site: www.spelletjesarcade.nl and see if it works?
[12:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> companion: works for me.
[12:09] <companion> Currently don't got an ubuntu install ready to check it out
[12:09] <companion> ntzrmtthihu777, thanks =)
[12:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: sudo apt-get install lightdm, and choose lightdm when it gives the option.
[12:10] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: ow dear, I was hoping to prevent that :-D
[12:10] <fale> hi
[12:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: why? I use gnome-panel myself, but I find lightdm's login to be beautiful
[12:11] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: but what then?
[12:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: try to boot again. if it hanged at gdm then it may not now.
[12:12] <dr_willis> Hmm. i Find lightdms default theme and layout - rather annoying. ;)
[12:12] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: and than switch back again to gdm? ;-)
[12:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: sure, give it a shot
[12:12] <dr_willis> Its way to 'hidden' to the user that the little round icon is where you click to select a differnt window manager.
[12:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: yeah, but sure is purdy
[12:13] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: ok, have to restart my system (dual boot), I'll give it a try
[12:14] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  i thought it was rather ugly last i looked at it.. it had silly dots all over the wallpaper.. and really nothing i saw outstanding to make it purty
[12:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: you can get rid of da dots, and assign your own wallpaper
[12:15] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  i did.. i switched to gdm
[12:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> :P lol.
[12:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> anywho, bestbot has thoroughly irritated me and its time for a cigar. Forage, I hope this works for you.
[12:18] <Henk717> Hello , Can anyone help me setup my AMD5000/Intel hybrid cards?
[12:19] <chrisl33_> sup
[12:20] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: ok, that worked
[12:21] <psichas> hi guys, i want compile kernel, and i need help to choose processor type, my cpu amd sempron 3000+ 1.8ghz
[12:21] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: don't like it one bit though, all these unneeded packages installed
[12:21] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: how do I switch back to gdm again?
[12:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: how do you think I fell about ktouch? dpkg-reconfigure lightdm or somthing to that effect
[12:22] <Guest9737> Hi. I have problems trying to connect wireless network
[12:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> all these packages wanting to install kde libs and stuff, truly irritating.
[12:23] <cfhowlett> Guest9737, details ...
[12:23] <Guest9737> wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[12:23] <Henk717> Can someone help me install my AMD5000/Intel hybrid setup?
[12:23] <Guest9737> Association request to the driver failed
[12:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> and no offense to all you who may use KDE, but as a GNOME user I have no need for all that.
[12:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | HandheldPenguin
[12:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> dammit my bad.
[12:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | Henk717
[12:24] <Guest9737> I add that I have successfully configured wireless network on Slackware
[12:24] <Guest9737> The configuration file comes from that configuration
[12:24] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: rebooting again
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> Guest9737  slackware config is different from ubuntu
[12:25] <ePax> Im on ubuntu 12.04 and i have one ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM MF110/MF627/MF636 wich is 3g dongle... im trying to load it as usbserial but ubuntu keeps disconnecting usbserial
[12:25] <Guest9737> MonkeyDust, wpa_supplicant is an applications which does not depend from the distribution, is it?
[12:25] <Guest9737> *application
[12:26] <tozen> ePax: pastebin lsusb please
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> Guest9737  is this useful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136
[12:26] <Guest9737> I have tried what follows: wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -D ipw2200 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, but it complains that "Unsupported driver 'ipw2200'."
[12:27] <ePax> tozen, Bus 001 Device 002: ID 19d2:0031 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM MF110/MF627/MF636
[12:27] <ePax> I have tested even with modprobe usbserial product ... vendor...
[12:27] <ePax> but it keeps disconeccting
[12:30] <Forage> rats, GDM again fails to start
[12:31] <elitenovell> hello ubuntu
[12:31] <elitenovell> channel
[12:32] <quarkey> hi, got some problem with a ux31a zenbook prime after following the 'upgrading linux kernel manually'. The screen is totaly black, but i can see the mouse pointer. Does anyone have a clue what to do? :/
[12:32] <quarkey> use this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbookPrime#Upgrading_Linux_kernel_manually
[12:34] <Guest9737> OK, I have rewritten the configuration file according to the indications in that article, but it changes nothing. Error messages are the same
[12:35] <Guest9737> What I am wondering about is: why doesn't it want to take driver ipw2200 to work - it is listed in the official wpa_supplicant manual
[12:35] <Guest9737> But I have checked that modprobe ipw2200 works fine
[12:38] <cronus> Guest9737, you can check wpa_supplicant -h for the list of available drivers
[12:41] <Guest9737> cronus, It has listed three drivers and ipw2200 is not among them. What should I do?
[12:42] <cronus> Guest9737, have you tried to run wpa_supplicant without specifying a driver?
[12:42] <Guest9737> Yes, it showed what I presented before
[12:43] <cronus> Guest9737, i haven't used it that much, but i never had to specify a driver.
[12:43] <cronus> Guest9737, sorry haven't seen earlier posts
[12:43] <stroodlepup> having problems with ubuntu....
[12:44] <Guest9737> cronus, ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !details|stroodlepup,
[12:44] <Guest9737> Association request to the driver failed
[12:45] <stroodlepup> my scrolling got reversed, and my home partition folder suddenly got full even though it still had 9 gig free
[12:46] <quarkey> anyone with ux31a and got three extra minnutes to spare?
[12:47] <scott_z> how can i put 2 commands on one command line. ex: I download a file through a command line program and then I want to rename what was downloaded. I have the commands I just need to know how to put them together
[12:47] <tozen> stroodlepup:sudo apt-get clean
[12:47] <ikonia> scott_z: command && command
[12:47] <tozen> stroodlepup:ubuntu-tweak
[12:48] <quarkey> scott_z: or command ; command
[12:48] <cronus> Guest9737, sorry i have no idea what that means.
[12:48] <scott_z> Thanks
[12:48] <stroodlepup> my home folder is a separate partition. it's not my root folder
[12:49] <tozen> stroodlepup:see first df -H /your_home_folder
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> stroodlepup  use this line in a terminal      find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> stroodlepup  or rather use this line in a terminal      find /home -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[12:52] <stroodlepup> i used baobab already, it cannot find the cause of it
[12:53] <akashj87> Hi guys .. I am using ubuntu 12.10 in Virtualbox (in mac osx). Using macosx terminal I use SSH to connect to ubuntu box ...can anybody tell me how can I use gedit in SSH ?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> akashj87  ssh is a terminal, you need a GUI to run gedit
[12:54] <lee-tiger> ??
[12:55] <akashj87> MonkeyDust : can you suggest what can I use to achieve that ?
[12:55] <stroodlepup> also my scroll up became scroll down, and vice versa
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> akashj87  not with ssh, i can't
[12:55] <scott_z> what would the command line be to rename a file keeping the extention without knowing what it is. ex: file name xxxxx.mp4 and want to rename to yyyyy.mp4 without using the .mp4
[12:55] <sonOfRa> if you want gui programs remotely, you have to use some kind of rdp
[12:56] <dr_willis> akashj87:  you would have to use an X server on OS-X that has X forwarding and it would appear on the OS-X desktop
[12:57] <Guest9737> I think that there is a comparatively simple problem: a firmware needed is not installed
[12:57] <Guest9737> But how can I install it?
[12:58] <akashj87> thanks dr_willis , MonkeyDust and SonOfRa
[13:00] <cronus> Guest9737, try installing linux-firmware and linux-firmware-nonfree
[13:01] <scott_z> if my file is named xxxxx.mp4 and I try mv xxxxx.* 'yyy yy'.* i literally get yyy yy.* but what I need is yyy yy.mp4 (yes i have the space in the yyy yy on purpose)
[13:01] <Guest9737> I have just read that installing knetworkmanager can help
[13:03] <Soru> Good morning
[13:03] <cronus> scott_z, if you have the name in a variable file_name you can use ${file_name##*.} to get the extension
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Soru  other timezone here
[13:04] <Guest9737> linux-firmware is in the newest version
[13:04] <Soru> MonkeyDust: 14:04 here, I've just wake up haha
[13:06] <scott_z> cronus: sorry my shell scripting skills are sadly lacking. Which is what I am trying to improve. :) A little more info would be helpful
[13:06] <Guest9737> Still
[13:07] <Guest9737> Still the same...
[13:07] <wizo> hello, i just installed ubuntu 12.10 desktop into my virtualbox, it seemed to install okay and asked for a reset to complete which I did. however when it tried to book up, it is stuck at start up where it's saying "Checking battery state.." "Starting mount netowrk filesystems" ect ect "Starting"
[13:08] <wizo> anyway to debug what is wrong?
[13:09] <cronus> scott_z, as an example: file_name=xxxxx.mp4;mv "$file_name" "yyy yy.${file_name##*.}"
[13:10] <Guest9737> how to run NetworkManager?
[13:12] <weeeleee> hi
[13:12] <weeeleee> can anyone help me ?
[13:12] <formy> ciaoù
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> weeeleee  start with a question
[13:13] <weeeleee> how can i disable my wireless on start up of unbuntu?
[13:13] <cfhowlett> weeeleee, details
[13:13] <formy> come si utilizza
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> !it
[13:13] <weeeleee> when after i switch on my laptop after it load unbuntu logo
[13:13] <weeeleee> my wifi led is turn on
[13:13] <weeeleee> *when after i switch on my laptop and after it load unbuntu logo
[13:14] <akashj87> dr_willis : I enabled X Fowarding, and now I am able to run gedit. However I am getting errors that "process:6012 gtk-warning locale not supported by C library.
[13:14] <ntzr|away> later
[13:14] <cfhowlett> weeeleee, sounds like a bios switch setting would do it ...
[13:15] <akashj87> Fontconfig warning : ignoring UTF-8: not a valid region tag.
[13:15] <weeeleee> bios switch setting?
[13:15] <akashj87> is there anything i can do to prevent these warnings ?
[13:15] <brightness> dell xps L501X can't set brightness using function keys. even tried using brightness and power.i think it is a bug. please help
[13:15] <weeeleee> but i can't find anything related to wireless
[13:15] <scott_z> cronus: I am downloading a file that I do not know that the extension will be until it is downloaded. is there a way to modify you comm and to except wildcards? (ex: file is xxxx with unknown extension and need to rename to 'yyy yy' with same extension)
[13:15] <weeeleee> in bios
[13:15] <formy> ma non esiste più in italiano
[13:16] <brightness> dell xps L501X can't set brightness using function keys. even tried using brightness and power.i think it is a bug. please help
[13:16] <chrisl33> sorry
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> formy  then continue in english, please
[13:16] <chrisl33> okay
[13:16] <chrisl33> what's up guys
[13:17] <chrisl33> bunchabots?
[13:17] <chrisl33> fingers on keyboards
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> chrisl33  did you have a support question?
[13:17] <chrisl33> naptime
[13:17] <cfhowlett> chrisl33, do you have a question?
[13:18] <chrisl33> why dont people follow me on twitter? like famous ones?
[13:18] <chrisl33> laters
[13:18] <cfhowlett> chrisl33, wrong channel .. this is ubuntu
[13:18] <BluesKaj> chrisl33:  because twitter is for twits :)
[13:18] <formy> aiuto
[13:19] <brightness> dell xps L501X can't set brightness using function keys. even tried using brightness and power.i think it is a bug. please help
[13:19] <BluesKaj> hey cfhowlett , how goes it?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, it's your world, I just live in it ...
[13:20] <BluesKaj> yeah sure :)
[13:20] <brightness> dell xps L501X can't set brightness using function keys. even tried using brightness and power.i think it is a bug. please help
[13:21] <BluesKaj> !patience | brightness
[13:25] <cronus> scott_z, http://pastebin.com/zTBPYYey
[13:28] <Sonderblade> anyone know of a free .tef file viewer?
[13:32] <surio> How to display my battery status charge remaining, etc... on my menu bar
[13:32] <surio> 12.04 Unity 2D
[13:33] <surio> On System settings, I have chosen the option show battery on menu when running on battery
[13:34] <surio> But battery does not come on
[13:34] <surio> So, how to bring the battery option on the machine.
[13:35] <surio> FWIW, this is a toshiba satellite laptop, and batmon seems to have troubles working with Toshiba
[13:35] <surio> ??
[13:36] <dr_willis> system is confused as to the fact it has a battery perhaps. some lsptops are quirky
[13:36] <dr_willis> id check theforums and askubuntu.com for that exact make laptop
[13:36] <dr_willis> there may be some known work arounds or tweaks
[13:37] <mac_> hello.. i would need a little help now.. i am now on other computer.. my previus nick was stupidBYdefault
[13:37] <surio> ok thx
[13:37] <mac_> subject: copy updates to another computer
[13:38] <mac_> pppZero?
[13:38] <Syko> Yo
[13:39] <pppZero> hola!
[13:39] <Syko> there any BT users here
[13:39] <k1l> !backtrack | Syko
[13:39] <mac_> hello.. i would need a little help now.. i am now on other computer.. (stupidBYdefault)
[13:40] <pppZero> easiest way would be via ssh - provided you have it on at least the "main" machine ie: scp -a your_user@ip.add.re.ss:/var/cache/apt/archives/ /var/cache/apt/archives/
[13:41] <mac_> i copied that *.deb packages to my external HD, now i run that "fresher" version.. i cant paste  it into a folder
[13:41] <pppZero> ah!
[13:41] <pppZero> open a terminal and run: sudo su -
[13:41] <kdsmain> if I'm running GNOME classic on 12.04 LTS and I upgrade to 12.10, will I still be able to use GNOME classic? Or will I be forced to use GNOME 3/Unity?
[13:41] <dr_willis> err... use 'sudo -s'  not 'sudo su -'
[13:41] <dr_willis> kdsmain:  thers a classic mode on 12.10
[13:42] <kdsmain> neat
[13:42] <Syko> g
[13:42] <kdsmain> dr_willis: thanks
[13:42] <pppZero> it'll ask you for your password, and you'll become root, and you'll then have write access to the apt cache dir
[13:42] <m_W> Hi, so I'm on 12.04 and whenever I try to apt-get update now I get 404 Not Found all over the place. I disabled all external ppa's and selected Download from Server for United States in Software Sources. I'm not behind a proxy or anything. It was working fine a few days ago, I am stumped :/
[13:42] <dr_willis> i perfer unity or gnome shell over classic. ;P
[13:42] <pppZero> sorry dr_willis, habit :)
[13:42] <quarkey> dr_willis: where do i find classic mode settings?
[13:43] <dr_willis> quarkey:  its on the login screen somewhere. i dont use it. so dont know its exact name
[13:43] <quarkey> ok
[13:43] <quarkey> thanks
[13:43] <dr_willis> same as it was on 12.04
[13:43] <k1l> m_W: can you show the output from "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get upgrade" in terminal in a pastebin?
[13:43] <kdsmain> dr_willis: I like GNOME 3 better than classic, but I love the individual window brightness adjustments that compiz config settings manager lets you have, and that doesn't work with GNOME 3
[13:43] <m_W> k1l, sure one sec
[13:43] <dr_willis> kdsmain:  cant say ive ever used the feature..
[13:43] <kdsmain> and I don't like Unity on my laptop
[13:44] <mac_> i have sudo access, what now?
[13:44] <dr_willis> mac_:  what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:44] <mac_> now i can copy files?
[13:44] <kdsmain> dr_willis: It's literally my favorite GUI feature of any computer system ever
[13:44] <dr_willis> mac_:  the cp command copys files...
[13:45] <kdsmain> dr_willis: my eyes would fall out if I didn't have it, but it's not as shotgun-y as dimming the whole screen
[13:45] <m_W> k1l, http://pastebin.com/409xbZwU
[13:45] <dr_willis> kdsmain:  cant say that i really touch the brightness at all. ;)
[13:46] <kdsmain> dr_willis: you must have better eyes than I
[13:46] <mac_> dr_willis, .. i got now sudo access, what now?
[13:46] <dr_willis> kdsmain:  not really..  without glasses im pratically blind.
[13:46] <dr_willis> mac_:  i asked what you are trying to do EXACTLY...
[13:46] <mac_> ow...
[13:46] <dr_willis> mac_:  so i have no idea what you need to do next
[13:47] <pptp> i cannot install FarCry. How can i install FarCry 3 on my Ubuntu 12.10?
[13:47] <kdsmain> dr_willis: haha maybe your eyes are more tolerant of light
[13:48] <k1l> m_W: set the sources to the main servers for a tryout (in the gui under software-properties-gtk)
[13:48] <m_W> k1l, ok
[13:48] <quarkey> I think i just messed up my installation ;D
[13:48] <mac_> dr_willis, check back my previous wrotes under nick stupidBYdefualt.. about 10min
[13:48] <k1l> m_W: maybe its a not proper synced mirror thats causing the problems
[13:48] <pppZero> mac_, sorry, busy, but you just need to cp the .deb files from your external hdd into your /var/cache/apt/archives/ dir
[13:49] <pppZero> dr_willis, he's got slow, slow internet, and trying to share his previously downloaded .deb's with his other machines
[13:49] <mac_> THANK U, pppZero!
[13:50] <mac_> but.. when i open them.. wont let me install..
[13:50] <m_W> k1l, same output :/
[13:50] <mac_> and, wont let me copy them either
[13:50] <scott_z> cronus: here is a real world example of your script and it worked like a champ. Now I have about 60 more of these to set up in a single script. What do I use for a separator so that each one will run as a single script? http://pastebin.com/qEJUsC1D
[13:50] <m_W> so strange
[13:51] <dr_willis> so copy them to your other machines /var/apt/cache or was it /var/cache/apt directory you have to do so as ROOT via sudo normally
[13:51] <pppZero> don't open/install them manually, just do the normal updates like you normally would, and it'll use those files from the cache dir instead of trying to download them all over again
[13:51] <mac_> unless... i shall not used now to install updetes inside that dir?
[13:52] <pppZero> mac_, do you have a network setup between your computers?
[13:52] <k1l> m_W: can you show your sources list? maybe there is some corruption in there
[13:52] <mac_> negative
[13:53] <dr_willis> for shareing deb downloads.. you may want to look into using apt-cacher-ng on one of themachines mac_
[13:53] <mac_> not yet
[13:53] <Phryq> is there a way to add a hibernate button to the shutdown menu?
[13:53] <mac_> am... no go..
[13:53] <Phryq> like I have "hibernate" installed, which allowed me to use the command line to hibernate
[13:53] <dr_willis> !find hibernate
[13:53] <Phryq> but it would be faster if it were connected to the shutdown button
[13:54] <cronus> scott_z, please don't use it like this. you most definitely going to lose files. if your source files don't have space in them you could use a for loop.
[13:54] <m_W> k1l, sure http://pastebin.com/Z9qM0TAP
[13:55] <scott_z> Phryq: try this: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/important-things-to-do-after-install_26.html
[13:56] <scott_z> Phryq: step #1
[13:56] <wilee-nilee> Phryq, Fond this with a quick google search, never tried it myself http://linuxg.net/add-the-hibernate-button-to-the-shutdown-menu-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[13:57] <Phryq> thanks
[13:58] <scott_z> Phryq: hope that is what you where looking for.
[13:58] <haziz> Any suggestions for low hanging fruits/bugs with programs written in C to work on?
[13:58] <mac_> u see... i use an external HD with linux on it... but.. the ubuntu i would like to refresh with updates is in laptop.. ->that laptop runs boot-up external hd
[13:58] <mac_> with updates
[13:58] <pppZero> mac_, no-go to the network, or no go with the .debs in your cache?
[13:58] <mac_> i am now runing laptops version of ubuntu.. practicaly empty...
[13:58] <mac_> any1 copy?
[13:58] <mac_> no go - to copy *.deb to laptops dir ../
[13:58] <mac_> cant copy
[13:58] <mac_> i got sudo access .. in terminal...
[13:58] <mac_> how 2 copy?
[13:58] <FloodBot1> mac_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:59] <Phryq> hey, that page you linked has a 'gnome advanced tools' thing. Is that any good if I use Unity?
[13:59] <mac_> sorry, 4 flood
[13:59] <scott_z> Phryq: That is what I am running.
[14:00] <Phryq> the gnome advanced tools?
[14:00] <scott_z> Phryq: worked for me. Dont know about your system though.
[14:01] <Phryq> and you are running Unity?
[14:02] <wilee-nilee> Phryq, Using nicks is really important here you want the person you are talking to know it is them you are addressing, if you are asking me about the tool I do not see it.
[14:02] <k1l> m_W: i think there is a / missing in the sources list at the end of the links " .../ubuntu/"
[14:02] <scott_z> Phryq: Sure am. I did a straight install from the CD (usb stick for me) and went straight to that page and did everything on it in order.
[14:03] <Phryq> ah, sorry wilee-nilee, I was asking scott_z
[14:03] <Phryq> ok awesome, so I will install that as well
[14:03] <scott_z> Phryq: Although I am running 12.04 LTS should not matter with 12.10
[14:03] <Phryq> thanks for all the help guys
[14:03] <mac_> pppZero, ?
[14:03] <wilee-nilee> Phryq, Cool, just wanted to help if I could. ;)
[14:05] <Phryq> what is the benefit of Gnome Shell? Would you recomend it?
[14:05] <Zazhia> Does anyone have time here?
[14:06] <k1l> !details | Zazhia
[14:06] <mac_> 15:07PM
[14:06] <mac_> :)
[14:07] <scott_z> Phryq: Gnome is what I am used to using.
[14:08] <Zazhia> I use Linux Mint 14, and needs to install Windows 7 instead. I have a usb key ready for installing it, but I cannot figure out to make the computer boot from the key. Or to change the boot order. Tried googling, but not doing it right it seems. Get nothing I can use.
[14:09] <Phryq> that Ubuntu Tweak tool allows me to download programs. I'm noticing that Virtualbox, for example, can be downloaded wheras I had to manually download it using the command line. Is there any reason *not* to use this tool for downloading programs?
[14:09] <k1l> Phryq: most reasons are personal preferences and to like the look. there are many desktops available. best to try out which one suits you best
[14:09] <Phryq> ok thakns
[14:10] <escott> Phryq, i can think of no good reason to use ubuntu tweak to download programs
[14:10] <escott> Phryq, its possible that tweak uses PPA version and you should be certain you want the PPA first
[14:10] <Phryq> escott, any reason not to?
[14:10] <escott> !ppa | Phryq
[14:10] <k1l> Phryq: if you contact the tool maintianer in case of prolblems im fine with you using it.
[14:11] <wilee-nilee> Phryq, You want vbox from the source not the ubuntu repositories.
[14:11] <Phryq> ah, so only download it if it's not available in the normal repos?
[14:11] <k1l> Phryq: but to come here: "ubuntu tweak tool ruined my ubuntu" is difficult to support
[14:11] <Phryq> wilee-nilee, why is that? I've heard the opposite from some people
[14:11] <Phryq> I see k1l
[14:13] <k1l> Phryq: we, in here, support the official ubuntu packages (generally). its difficult to support things that and to get to know if its ubuntus fault or the 3rd party packages fault.
[14:13] <wilee-nilee> Phryq, It is latest up to date version, inn the past there were two versions, they are now combined, the oracle version is thought to be more stable I guess, it is personal choice really.
[14:15] <Phryq> so one school of thought is that the source is the most up to date version, the other is that the ubuntu repos are better patched for Ubuntu, and problems can be more easily solved by ubuntu support people. Is this right?
[14:16] <m_W> k1l, no luck :(
[14:16] <wilee-nilee> Phryq, You have to be careful with generalizations, the question you ask is full of varibles and outliers.
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Phryq: well there are more of them
[14:25] <scott_z> cronus: ok have been doing research. All my source files do NOT have spaces however the are not sequential. Trying to figure out how to set up a for loop if not sequential. In order for me to set up just one of these, I have to copy a URL and put it into the script. Then I have to copy the file name (the number .mp4 in this case but may not be an mp4 could be .avi, etc,ergo why I need to get extension from the downloaded file). Then I
[14:25] <scott_z> have to get the title (name) from the website that I want to call it. After I do all this by hand I now have the script that I put on pastebin. I want to put this all together into one massive script so I can fire and forget.
[14:27] <quarkey> You should have a look at perl for that, scott_z
[14:28] <Dildo> Tits McGee
[14:30] <scott_z> quarkey: I think that I would agree with you and it is something that I am looking at. However, the time it would take for me to learn a new language would take too long for a 'down and dirty' script that I need to run now.
[14:30] <somsip> scott_z: what are you doing it in now?
[14:30] <YokoBR> guys, my ubuntu laptop is hot as hell. What can i do? (i can't install the proprietary drivers, since my onboard gpu is HD4250 and ati haven't released the legacy drivers to xserver 1.13)
[14:31] <scott_z> somsip: just a bash shell script
[14:31] <ICheer_No0M> hi all
[14:32] <somsip> scott_z: <shudder> Ah well, if it works, it works
[14:32] <eccstartup> how to setup a irc server
[14:32] <quarkey> scott_z: May i see the bash script?
[14:32] <Vampire0> Hi there, I have a quick question. I have the sources of a debian package (apt-get source <package>) and am able to build it with "debian/rules build". But if I change something and run "debian/rules build" again it just tells me that nothing is to do for "build". Is there a way to tell it that something is to be done besides calling "debian/rules clean build" which takes ages to finish, just because on
[14:32] <Vampire0> e changed source file
[14:32] <knowj> Is it possible to sync permissions from one server to another?
[14:32] <knowj> managed to chown my /var
[14:32] <knowj> *chown -R /var
[14:32] <ikonia> Vampire0: remove the built package, and rebuild
[14:32] <ikonia> Vampire0: nothing is to be done because it's already done
[14:33] <escott_> knowj, doubtful the two servers would have the same files in /var
[14:33] <ikonia> knowj: that won't do anything
[14:33] <ikonia> knowj: you need to specifcy a user:group for chown to change something
[14:33] <knowj> I would boot up a snapshot on another instance
[14:33] <knowj> so it's just a few hours behind
[14:33] <ikonia> knowj: you don't need to
[14:33] <ikonia> knowj: chown -R /var does nothing
[14:33] <knowj> ikonia: the permissions killed mysql
[14:33] <ikonia> knowj: cohwn -R /var does nothing
[14:33] <Vampire0> ikonia, what do you mean by "build package"? If I remove the build executable it still tells me nothing to do. And the .deb package was not build, I just told it to build the software with "debian/rules build", didn't I?
[14:34] <YokoBR> guys, my ubuntu laptop is hot as hell. What can i do? (i can't install the proprietary drivers, since my onboard gpu is HD4250 and ati haven't released the legacy drivers to xserver 1.13)
[14:34] <scott_z> quarkey: here is real world script. chokes at the ; . I have to put this all together by hand. I want to put each section into one file and fire and forget. http://pastebin.com/xTDZ3t19
[14:34] <ikonia> YokoBR: haven't we done this loop
[14:34] <ikonia> YokoBR: you where given 3 option - you could not use 2 of them, so where left with only 1
[14:34] <ikonia> YokoBR: why are we doing the loop again ?
[14:35] <knowj> ikonia: I accidentally chown -R www-data:www-data /var whilst logged in as root rathe then ./var. It took out mysql just worried what else it's going to cause problems with
[14:35] <ikonia> knowj: right, so that's a different command as you said you did
[14:35] <YokoBR> ikonia, i can't install 10.04. Also the other 2 options where dropped.  I had to install 12.10 again.
[14:35] <scott_z> quarkey: when I say section, I mean everything prior to the ; as a single command (script). I have about 60 of these to put together
[14:35] <theadmin> scott_z: "#bash" isn't a valid shebang, use #!/bin/bash or #!env bash, for starters
[14:35] <ikonia> YokoBR: ok - so nothing is changed in 24 hours, so what do you expect t ohappen ?
[14:35] <ikonia> YokoBR: why can you not insall 10.04 ?
[14:36] <ikonia> knowj: so put it back to root:root
[14:36] <YokoBR> ikonia, in the last 24 hour my laptop wasn't burning. I don't know why, but i've download 2 times, 32 and 64 bit, and both don't even boot.
[14:37] <theadmin> scott_z: Also, your semicolon comes after nothing. A semicolon must directly follow a command, on the same line. Just get rid of it.
[14:37] <Vampire0> any idea ikonia?
[14:37] <ikonia> YokoBR: ok - so use another media
[14:38] <YokoBR> i mean, i've used 4 medias. 2 with 32bit version and 2 with 64bit. The only thing i haven't tryied yet is usb pen.
[14:38] <knowj> ikonia: not everything in /var is root:root
[14:38] <ikonia> knowj: no, but it's a good start
[14:38] <ikonia> knowj: putting it ot root:root - 775 , then working backwards
[14:39] <scott_z> theadmin: hey what can I say, noobie with scripting :) That why i am here, trying to learn. Thanks for that help. will make the necessary change. so looking at my ex. How do I take each section and seperate them so they run as a single script?
[14:39] <theadmin> scott_z: You don't need to separate them, but uh, if you're looking at doing multiple similar tasks why not make the script take arguments?
[14:39] <miziu> hi, i have a problem with unblocking ports to upload in deluge, if there's someone able to help me, please pm me
[14:39] <knowj> ikonia: just wondered if there was a similar command or flag to SCP that I could run off a snapshot to restore the permissions of all found files
[14:40] <ikonia> knowj: not like that no
[14:40] <netherlands6> Hi please I try to reinstall grub on sdb but doesnt work my linux partition is on sdb1 and grub on sdb or maybe sdb1
[14:40] <ikonia> Vampire0: sorry, no idea
[14:40] <quarkey> scott_z: http://linux.about.com/od/Bash_Scripting_Solutions/a/How-To-Pass-Arguments-To-A-Bash-Script.htm
[14:41] <bepebe> how can i install additional drivers (that auto-detect correct graphics drivers) like in previous versions of Ubuntu? I am running ubuntu 12.10 x64
[14:41] <quarkey> agree with theadmin, argument would be wise
[14:41] <mJayk> bepebe: what card are you running ?
[14:41] <netherlands6> Im on the live cd atm
[14:41] <mJayk> bepebe: certain cards only have driver support up to certain kernels
[14:41] <bepebe> mJayk, AMD HD 5450
[14:42] <wilee-nilee> netherlands6, How are you installing grub to sdb, and how does it not work, your description lacks a lot of good information.
[14:42] <scott_z> theadmin: thats what I am trying to do. any help would be great. bearing in mind that I would have to have a 'table'?? (syntax??) with the file number and a matching file name that I want to rename it to.
[14:42] <scott_z> quarkey: thanks checking it out now.
[14:43] <mJayk> bepebe: thats strange you should have prop drivers.  Do you want install the amd drivers ? i.e. the ones with the amd catalyst control center?
[14:43] <netherlands6> ok I got the error : error unknow filesystem grub rescue when booting,
[14:44] <bepebe> mJayk, not necessarily no, but I just want to go above 1280x720 resolution. If I go above that, it says monitor not supported. When if I run Windows, I can hit 1900x1280
[14:44] <bepebe> brb
[14:44] <mJayk> bepebe: sure, Search the software center for amdcccle
[14:46] <bananapie> Hey, I can play audio as root but not as my user. I am in the audio group and /dev/snd/* is writeable for audio group. Help?
[14:46] <summatusmentis> hi all, I have an ubuntu VPS, running in Xen HVM (domU). I had to install as 10.04, because of the ISOs available, but I ran `do-release-upgrade`, and I'm now on 12.04. However, my network has stopped working entirely, I can get an IP from DHCP, but I can't resolve DNS, and I can't ping any IP. Anyone know why?
[14:46] <bepebe> mJayk, I selected a proprietary driver from Additional Drivers in Software Sources and now when logged in, I have no window borders or title bars ?
[14:47] <mJayk> bepebe: try an sudo apt-get update after the install then an x restart
[14:47] <wilee-nilee> netherlands6, First always use nicks. Next run this script and copy and paste to pastebin the full text made, then post the url of that here. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[14:49] <bepebe> mJayk, nothing needs updating
[14:49] <quarkey> scott_z: if you like hacking around like that you should definitive check out perl. It's really flexible and good for those kind of tasks. It can be difficult at start, but once you get to know the syntax, it starts to pick up :)
[14:49] <netherlands6> wilee-nilee sudo: /home/ubuntu/Downloads/bootinfoscript: command not found
[14:49] <Rexter> during my original install of 12.04, I forgot to format the partition that I reserved for SWAP, so the system had no SWAP. Now I have used gparted to format the partition for SWAP. Do i need to do anything else to activate it?
[14:50] <StephenS> hey
[14:50] <StephenS> when I put pc to suspend its auto turned on without any trigger
[14:50] <StephenS> I have programs running in background which interact with net etc..
[14:50] <StephenS> so how to put pc to sleep/hibernate instead of suspend?
[14:50] <theadmin> Rexter: Yes, you need to swapon and add it to /etc/fstab
[14:50] <mJayk> bepebe: i had this probleb before trying to think how I solved it,
[14:51] <theadmin> Rexter: Example fstab line: /dev/sda1 none swap sw 0 0
[14:51] <bepebe> mJayk, I have no unity side bar or title bar at the top with the usual time and data etcetera
[14:52] <StephenS> hello?
[14:52] <theadmin> StephenS: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[14:52] <mJayk> bepebe: I had this problem before trying to think how I solved it do you have any other desktops installed ? or are you able to test out the unity 2d desktop
[14:53] <bepebe> no other desktops, just clean install of 12.10 x64
[14:53] <wilee-nilee> netherlands6, I believe you have to extract it first
[14:53] <bepebe> how can i try unity 2d ?
[14:53] <scott_z> quarkey: I really thank you for your advice and I am following it. It will be great for future use. My situation is unique. I am on the road ALL the time and do not always have access to the Internet and when I do, it is usually really slow. Right now for the next 12hrs, I have a fantastic Internet connection and want to take advantage of the speed. That is why I am just trying to put together a 'down and dirty' to grab these files whi
[14:53] <scott_z> le I can. :)
[14:53] <mJayk> bepebe: when you see the logon screen click the white ubuntu logo next to your name should open a drop down box
[14:53] <bepebe> OK, will give that a try
[14:53] <wilee-nilee> netherlands6, Make sure it is then in Downloads and run the command on the page.
[14:53] <bepebe> thanks
[14:54] <StephenS> theadmin, didnt worked
[14:54] <netherlands6> wilee-nilee Im on a live cd because of the grub error
[14:54] <StephenS> again auto turned off.
[14:54] <StephenS> I mean its hibernated for 2 seconds and then auto enabled
[14:54] <wilee-nilee> netherlands6, Does not matter, by the way since you are loading to sdb is it first read in the bios?
[14:54] <quarkey> scott_z: Ah, I've would have done the same :D
[14:55] <phrac> vim
[14:55] <phrac> oops
[14:56] <StephenS> ?
[14:57] <bepebe> mJayk, there is nowhere I can see to select unity 2d ?
[14:58] <bepebe> mJayk, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/unity-2d-removed-from-ubuntu-12-10 ?
[14:58] <wilee-nilee> bepebe, What release?
[14:58] <bepebe> 12.10
[14:58] <mJayk> bepebe: ah my bad ok
[14:58] <wilee-nilee> bepe86, It has been discontinued.
[14:58] <mJayk> bepebe: that might explain that at least :P
[14:58] <bepebe> :D
[14:59] <scott_z> quarkey: checking out http://qntm.org/files/perl/perl.html now. If you have any other resources that you could recommend that would be great. And Thanks again!
[14:59] <Doni> Hello, I have a problem when I try to install my Printer it says this Extracting file: printdriver.te Extracting file: lexmark-08z-series-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb Extracting file: launcher.c Extracting file: launcher Extracting file: lsbrowser Extracting file: lsusbdevice Using dpkg installation [14:59] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | Doni
[14:59] <netherlands6> then I<ll be back later I dont know what to do with the 3 files and I have to go yesterday I stay all day on screen because of this grub error
[14:59] <bepebe> mJayk, I'd quite happily use the default driver, but everything is over scanned, and like I say, I cannot bump the resolution up without mode not supported showing up
[15:00] <Doni> ok
[15:00] <bepebe> mJayk, see here http://postimg.org/image/vq67ocqrr/
[15:01] <Doni> When I try to install my driver
[15:01] <Doni> It says Error report
[15:01] <Doni> I have a Lexmark x6675
[15:02] <wilee-nilee> Doni, Did you check if ubuntu has the drivers?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Doni:  lexmark printers have little or no support on linux
[15:02] <wilee-nilee> ahh
[15:02] <Doni> how do you mean ubuntu?
[15:03] <quarkey> scott_z: that would cover a bunch ;) You should also check out the official perl documentation: http://perldoc.perl.org/ I think you can download the entire documentation. No worries mate :)
[15:03] <Doni> I'm a rookie you can say I don't understand that much but i have no choice becuase my windows sucks
[15:03] <mJayk> bepebe: yea I know that error, have you tried going to the ati website and getting drivers from ther e?
[15:03] <Doni> ati website?
[15:03] <bepebe> mJayk, yup, when I install the drivers, I have to use --force, and then when I log in, no unity, top titlebar, or window borders
[15:04] <mJayk> Doni: Yea the website by ATI :D
[15:04] <bitbyte> hey
[15:04] <wilee-nilee> Doni, Ubuntu has repositories they contain drivers, they are if available in the add printer gui, however it appears as BluesKaj suggests lexmark may not be part of linux supportes
[15:04] <bitbyte> any one here have experience with deluge on ubuntu server
[15:04] <scott_z> quarkey: grabbed the pdf. thanks so much. this is going to be FUN! Thanks!
[15:04] <Doni> yes it supports Linux but It's not that good as we see
[15:04] <bepebe> mJayk, http://postimg.org/image/6q9blxe47/
[15:04] <Doni> add printer gui
[15:05] <mJayk> bepebe: mmmmmmm, could be a dependence issue
[15:05] <quarkey> scott_z: I like your enthusiasm :)
[15:05] <Doni> I don't understand nothing at all lol
[15:05] <bepebe> mJayk, do I need to update my kernel headers then ?
[15:06] <mJayk> bepebe: looks like it could be that, have you trued apt-get install fglrx-drive ?
[15:06] <Doni> When I try just to print with Ubuntu It doesn't work
[15:06] <mJayk> bepebe: that might list the deps'
[15:06] <quarkey> scott_z: the language is powerfull. Me and my co-worker made a software package for an IBM TS3500 tape library once.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Doni:  some business class printers have linux support , if you have one of those then you may be in luck
[15:06] <bepebe> mJayk, OK, will give that lot a try, thanks for your help :)
[15:07] <adamk> mJayk: Why did you choose to use the driver directly from the AMD website and not the version packaged nicely by/for Ubuntu?
[15:07] <Doni> Sadly I haven't on of those
[15:07] <wilee-nilee> Doni, Just for the record. And use nicks please it is confusing enough already trying to tell who is talking to who without nicks. http://blog.sudobits.com/2012/04/13/how-to-install-printer-driver-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[15:07] <mJayk> adamk: because its not detecting any prop drivers on his system its a common problem with 12.10
[15:08] <Doni> OK thanks willee
[15:08] <netherlands6> wilee-nilee http://pastebin.com/jSPhgAZ4
[15:09] <Doni> I'm gooing to try this out
[15:09] <bepebe> mJawayk, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic allowed the AMD drivers from their website run without the --force option and I am now logged in with a proper resolution and not over scanned! Thanks for your help ^_^
[15:09] <mJawayk> bepebe: brilliant :) glad to hear
[15:10] <greg_25> Hello, is there any way to integrate my qt application into gnome/unity (gtk)?
[15:10] <Doni> Lexmark does support Linux
[15:10] <Doni> Becuase other Linux users are saying that they solved This problem before me
[15:10] <wilee-nilee> netherlands6, You left out 98% of the script, however I see unknown filesystem type in sdb1 is this a fresh install?
[15:10] <skypce> hello people i am with ubuntu 12.10 i have crackling stutter sound
[15:11] <skypce> i have a alc 270 intel hda
[15:11] <skypce> can you helpme please
[15:11] <Doni> This method that you send me doesn't work for me
[15:11] <netherlands6> wilee-nilee yes is a fresh install
[15:11] <wilee-nilee> netherlands6, What partition type did you choose?
[15:11] <netherlands6> ext4
[15:12] <Doni> I downloaded this from the lexmark website http://support.lexmark.com/index?segment=SUPPORT&userlocale=EN_US&locale=en&productCode=LEXMARK_X6675&page=product&frompage=null
[15:12] <netherlands6> wilee-nilee ext4
[15:13] <Doni> but the driver says Error report when Installing it
[15:13] <wilee-nilee> netherlands6, I would reinstall, an unknown filesystem type showing is not really normal.
[15:13] <Doni> how to solve this??!!
[15:14] <scott_z> quarkey: Ok thanks to you and cronus and theadmin, I now have a 'down and dirty' script that will do what I need. And with the ammo you gave me (perl) this could be a lot easier in the future. Here is an example of the tweaks that made it work. Bearing in mind that there are about 58 more to add to this script. :)
[15:14] <Doni> wilee-nilee
[15:14] <scott_z> quarkey: http://pastebin.com/dtNW4T6Q
[15:15] <netherlands6> wilee-nilee thank I will shutdown the computer then this grub error ruin my day yesterday I will reinstall it tonight then
[15:15] <mahdavi> hi i need a good download manager like IDM for ubuntu
[15:16] <mahdavi> good as good IDM. can you help me to find
[15:16] <Doni> dpkg: fout bij afhandelen van lexmark-08z-series-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb (--install):  parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control' near line 9 package 'lexmark-08z-series-driver':  blank line in value of field 'Description' Fouten gevonden tijdens behandelen van:  lexmark-08z-series-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb Execute: rm lexmark-08z-series-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb ERROR REPORT **
[15:16] <wilee-nilee> Doni, I'm not really the person to ask honestly. ;)
[15:16] <greg_25> mahdavi: gui or command line?
[15:16] <Doni> Ok lol =p
[15:17] <greg_25> mahdavi: SteadyFlow,   or DownThemAll for Firefox is nice
[15:17] <mahdavi> greg_25: GUI is better but command line is good too
[15:17] <greg_25> mahdavi: for cli:  wget or curl
[15:17] <Doni> well I guess I will just going to repair my windows i have dual boot
[15:18] <mahdavi> greg_25: i test DownThemAll in FF and wget and multiget but download in this software is not as IDM
[15:19] <wilee-nilee> netherlands6, If I were you I would post all of that script at the ubuntu forums, there may be information there that is pertinent as to why you are getting a unrecognized file system, I hate to see you waste your time.
[15:19] <mahdavi> greg_25: but i will try curl
[15:19] <greg_25> mahdavi: maybe better :)
[15:20] <mahdavi> greg_25: to test it
[15:20] <mahdavi> greg_25: tanks
[15:22] <wudoktr> all new to me
[15:22] <wudoktr> like trying to learn a new language huh ?
[15:23] <helloworld> hi
[15:23] <wudoktr> hello, how ja B today?
[15:24] <helloworld> all ok
[15:25] <helloworld> does anyone know, how to make something like google 8.8.8.8?
[15:26] <helloworld> I need to publish a service on fixed IP-address
[15:26] <ikonia> helloworld: publish what service
[15:27] <helloworld> one tcp port with listener
[15:27] <ikonia> helloworld: what service
[15:27] <greg_25> dns server
[15:27] <helloworld> nonono, just another tsp service
[15:27] <ikonia> greg_25: please let him answer
[15:28] <helloworld> nonono, just another tcp service
[15:28] <ikonia> helloworld: what "service" do you want to host
[15:29] <mindcat> ok, i tried linux mint, now ubuntu has same problem.
[15:29] <helloworld> I think, it be rinetd on the frontend, but the backend is not wellknown software
[15:29] <ikonia> helloworld: I'll ask one more time "what service do you want to run"
[15:29] <Akiva-Mobile> Ubuntu 12.10 raid live cd: How?
[15:29] <ikonia> helloworld: no cryptic answers, just a factual detail of the service
[15:29] <ikonia> Akiva-Mobile: a livecd runs in ram, not disk
[15:30] <Akiva-Mobile> ikonia: Ubiquity was said to have it
[15:30] <Akiva-Mobile> ubiquity not released yet.
[15:30] <helloworld> ikonia, it named "inetserver", not well known yet
[15:30] <ikonia> Akiva-Mobile: what are you talking about, a livecd runs in ram, not disks
[15:30] <Akiva-Mobile> ubiquity is python.
[15:30] <mindcat> i have problem boot livecd from harddisk. GRUB4DOS bootloader is fine, and after loading screen, it say "Could not find the ISO /ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso".
[15:30] <Akiva-Mobile> ikonia: Install software raid, me want.
[15:30] <k1l> !away > qos|away
[15:31] <ikonia> Akiva-Mobile: buikd the meta devices, the installer will see them if you start them before the installer
[15:31] <ikonia> helloworld: do you have a link for the software/it's homepage/maker
[15:31] <Akiva-Mobile> how build meta devices? Gparted does not support it as far as I know.
[15:31] <ikonia> Akiva-Mobile: mdadm
[15:31] <Akiva-Mobile> thanks, will give it a look.
[15:32] <Akiva-Mobile> have a cookie.
[15:32] <helloworld> Ikonia, yes: http://ritm.ru software named PCN6
[15:32] <ikonia> helloworld: right, so it's not called "inetserver" it's called PCN6
[15:32] <ikonia> helloworld: that link is just hardware devices
[15:33] <mindcat> previous one, i am boot linux mint from harddisk, GRUB4DOS bootloader is fine, and after splash screen, it say "Could not find the ISO /linuxmint-14.1-mate-dvd-32bit.iso".
[15:33] <mindcat> then i let GRUB4DOS load this ISO to System Memory and boot, and i choose first option. after splash screen, it say "unable to find a medium containing a live file system." i am pretty sure ISO is there.
[15:34] <ikonia> mindcat: why are you using grub4dos ?
[15:34] <ikonia> mindcat: this is not an ubuntu setup
[15:34] <mindcat> because, i can't boot from CD
[15:34] <k1l> mindcat: i dont see the ubuntu support issue in linuxmint and grub4dos
[15:34] <ikonia> mindcat: this is not really an ubuntu issue,
[15:34] <mindcat> so i going use grub huh?
[15:35] <ikonia> mindcat: you can use what you want
[15:35] <cronus> mindcat, could you pastebin the relevant section of menu.lst?
[15:35] <helloworld> ikonia, this is win32 software, which listens one tcp port. I need to tune tcp balancer on failure redundant hosting.
[15:35] <mindcat> crouns, yes.
[15:35] <ikonia> helloworld: ok - so win32 software, you sould be using Windows
[15:36] <helloworld> ikonia, I use rinetd on debian/ubuntu to balance, but I want to make it independent on the ISP network troubles.
[15:37] <ikonia> helloworld: you are not making any sense, sorry
[15:37] <mindcat> crouns, http://pastie.org/7100218
[15:37] <helloworld> ikonia, thanks. =)
[15:38] <bmxscott1993> hello
[15:39] <LoneTrooper> hi, I have Links 2.7 browser and i wonder if its possible to change default font for web pages.
[15:39] <m_W> k1l, so i figured out the packages problem...
[15:39] <k1l> m_W: yes?
[15:41] <LoneTrooper> :I
[15:41] <goventus> join #ubuntu-ru
[15:41] <m_W> k1l, I was messing around with proxies last week. It seems there is an issue using a proxy in chrome. So I had to go into chrome and choose None for proxy and click 'Apply System Wide'
[15:41] <sfoobar> can someone tell me the best way to manage ppa's with a gui in the current ubuntu version?
[15:41] <m_W> k1l, and now it works
[15:42] <bitbyte> hey does any one here use deluge on ubuntu server 12.10
[15:42] <k1l> m_W: ah ok
[15:42] <m_W> k1l, thanks for your help :)
[15:43] <greg_25> bitbyte: me
[15:43] <BluesKaj> m_W:  google doesn't like proxies , they can't keep track of your movements as easily :)
[15:43] <bitbyte> greg_25: did you have any connection issues setting it up ?
[15:43] <m_W> BlueEagle, I know right :)
[15:43] <m_W> oops lol
[15:44] <m_W> BluesKaj, this bug was driving me crazy
[15:44] <brec> If I install 12.04.1 will Software Updates keep it there (.1) or will I end up with 12.04.2?
[15:44] <iceroot> is "linux-image-generic-lts-quantal the default on 12.04.2 and linux-image-generic is the default on 12.04? i dont know why one of my systems is holding 3.5 and the other 3.2
[15:44] <greg_25> bitbyte: i don't think so
[15:44] <iceroot> brec: 12.04.2
[15:44] <k1l> iceroot: yes
[15:44] <cronus> mindcat, maybe try modify an iso entries from the menu.lst that comes from the grub4dos. alternatevely (this is what i do) copy casper directory from cd to the root of a partition and boot with the boot=casper option
[15:44] <brec> Sigh
[15:44] <k1l> iceroot: its the lts enablement stack
[15:44] <m_W> Now it's time to upgrade to 12.10
[15:44]  * SamuraiAlba runs around the room flapping his arms
[15:44] <greg_25> bitbyte: you mean between daemon and web service?
[15:44] <iceroot> k1l: i think you did not understand my question
[15:44] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[15:45] <LoneTrooper> okay how about this... Does anybody knows text based (console) text editor that supports mouse input (dont recommend me to type apt-get search "keywords")
[15:45] <k1l> brec: the 12.04.1 will go to 12.04.2 (besides the kernel upgrades)
[15:45] <k1l> iceroot: sure i did
[15:45] <bitbyte> greg_25: i think so basically when i load up webui none of the connections show online and nothing shows in /var/log/syslog
[15:45] <iceroot> k1l: then your answer make no sense
[15:45] <k1l> iceroot: the lts enablement stack is standard on the .2 version
[15:45] <LoneTrooper> as far as i know only ranger file manager supports mouse
[15:45] <k1l> iceroot: if you install .2 version
[15:45] <mindcat> cronus, i already did copy casper folder things to boot it
[15:45] <iceroot> k1l: both systems are running 12.04.2 one was installed with 12.04 and one was installed with 12.04.2 and they have different kernel-meta-packages
[15:46] <mindcat> cronus, oh
[15:46] <k1l> iceroot: see what i wrote above
[15:46] <brec> So if I want to sata
[15:46] <iceroot> k1l: that is very strange why 12.04.2 is acting different
[15:46] <k1l> iceroot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[15:46] <saispn> anyone uses web2py python framework here?
[15:46] <iceroot> k1l: imo there should be no difference when using 12.04.0 or 12.04.2 when i dist-upgrade both to 12.04.2 latest version
[15:47] <iceroot> k1l: but ok, thank you for the info
[15:47] <k1l> iceroot: you can upgrade to the 3.5 kernel when installed from 12.04 but you are not forced to
[15:47] <ronillon> hi, i would like to setup share between two computers, debian 6.0.7, ubuntu 10.04.4 and ubuntu 12.04. can someone help me?
[15:47] <kostkon> iceroot, only new installations get the new kernel stack
[15:47] <k1l> iceroot: see it that way: there is a new kernel available. you can use it. but you are not forced to
[15:47] <greg_25> bitbyte: maybe try changing the port to lets say 8999
[15:47] <iceroot> k1l: thats the job of "backports"
[15:47] <iceroot> k1l: both systems should be the same
[15:48] <k1l> iceroot: its a problem with hardware which makes that necessary
[15:48] <brec> What I really want to do is to stay at Xorg xserver 1.11 and not go to 1.13, so I can use an older AMD/ATI driver. Any way to do that with 12.04?
[15:49] <mindcat> cronus, but yes, i did copy casper directory things from ubuntu ISO to harddisk root, and boot it.
[15:49] <LoneTrooper> anyone can recommend me good text based applications?
[15:49] <iceroot> k1l: thank you for the useful infos
[15:49] <k1l> iceroot: i think its mentioned in the release notes. if you dont want the new kernel in .2 you can go to the standard kernel.
[15:50] <iceroot> k1l: i dont want different systems in my environment and now i have 12.04.2 with 3.2 and 3.5  so i have to rebuild my vmware packages because they are build for 3.2
[15:51] <iceroot> k1l: and maybe in some month we have linux-image-generic-foobar-lts and so on and i have another system
[15:51] <flop> how can I exit from the gui and only use cli?
[15:51] <iceroot> k1l: also with a newer x-server
[15:51] <luminous> hi! I'm trying to install a package but another package is erroring out in it's --configure.. there should be no dependency between the two, so I don't know why this would happen. any insights into how I can just install salt-minion and work around puppet sucking? http://dpaste.de/xOZy7/
[15:51] <cronus> mindcat, if there is a file named /casper/filesystem.squashfs then just try booting with just boot=casper (ie without the iso-scan)
[15:52] <mindcat> cronus, oh no... sorry
[15:52] <k1l> iceroot: again: uninstall the quantal kernel and go with the standard kernel is still possible. so you dont have to change your setup
[15:52] <primaloath> After performing updates (which included linux headers) 15 minutes ago, and restarting, I was met with a perfectly fine login screen, but afterwards, the toolbar and left-hand menu disappeared. I could start a terminal and had a working mouse cursor.
[15:52] <mindcat> cronus, now i going boot again now
[15:53] <iceroot> k1l: i know its not that hard to change that but i dont like the fact that there will be a difference when i install with 12.04.0 or 12.04.2
[15:53] <cronus> mindcat, goot luck
[15:53] <cronus> mindcat, *good
[15:53] <primaloath> I am using 12.10. I tried "dconf reset -f /org/compiz/" as advised, but compiz crashed in the middle of this procedure.
[15:53] <k1l> primaloath: are the headers  for your kernel installed and is the video driver installed properly?
[15:53] <primaloath> Likewise for "setsid unity".
[15:53] <mindcat> cronus, :D
[15:54] <ed8_> hi, how do I use remmina to connect with VNC on DISPLAY :1 ?
[15:55] <primaloath> k1l: I had installed my video driver a month ago. The background is rendering, so I'm not sure if that's the issue. I don't know whether the kernel headers were installed (I'm not even sure what kernel headers contain).
[15:56] <k1l> primaloath: the kernel headers are needed for prop. driver to build the module for the kernel. so if there is a problem with that there is no video driver modul and that will cause problems after login. missing headers is quite a common problem of this
[15:58] <primaloath> k1l: I'll see if I can find out whether they were installed. Is there a log of what was downloaded and installed when I last updateed?
[16:00] <wabash> What's the best place to get ubuntu release keys?
[16:00] <wabash> gpg keys
[16:00] <tukangledeng> hi
[16:00] <tukangledeng> anybody
[16:00] <tukangledeng> i have problem with vpn
[16:00] <tukangledeng> openvpn
[16:00] <tukangledeng> openvpn runing so slow
[16:00] <tukangledeng> any suggest
[16:01] <primaloath> k1l: In any event, thanks for the information.
[16:01] <k1l> primaloath: just see your kernel with "uname -a" and see if the linux-headers package is installed for that
[16:01] <primaloath> k1l: Thanks. I'll try that.
[16:01] <nicknamenotfound> need help creating a win7bootableUSB from ubuntu
[16:03] <k1l> nicknamenotfound: howto boot win7 from usb is a windows support issue. not an ubuntu one.
[16:03] <greg_25> nicknamenotfound: maybe burning an iso would be the easiest
[16:04] <johnnyborg> try linux live usb creator
[16:06] <roland-> hello what is the latest version of ubuntu running gnome 2
[16:07] <greg_25> roland-: maybe its better to look after mate or cinnamon
[16:07] <k1l> roland-: 11.04. but thats not supported anymore
[16:08] <k1l> roland-: i would suggest to take a look at xubuntu or lubuntu
[16:08] <mindcat> cronus, bad news, now it tell me "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system."
[16:10] <rocktop> is there some one familiar with pure-ftpd ?
[16:13] <grimrog> hello
[16:14] <cronus> mindcat, it seems linux cannot see your drive. there is a boot option to get a busybox in initrd to see if you can mount it. i'll see if i can find it
[16:14] <grimrog> i use ream speak 3 and maouse a4tech x710 extra fire and ts3 not detected side buttons my mouse
[16:15] <grimrog> how to make them work
[16:18] <nicknamenotfound> another question, is it possible to remove all "task"icons from xfce panel, so it only displays text ?
[16:19] <cronus> mindcat, break=casper-bottom
[16:20] <nullchapter> hello
[16:21] <bmxscott1993> is there a program like imesh for ubuntu
[16:23] <ronillon> pls, how do i setup network sharing?
[16:26] <cronus> ronillon, have you tried selecting shared to other computers in the network manager?
[16:27] <ronillon> no, where do i find that?
[16:27] <xomniverse> I am running an Ubuntu 12.10 minimal install, and I installed Openbox as my window manager and LXAppearance to change some of the settings, but LXAppearance doesn't actually save any of the changes I make in it for some reason
[16:28] <cronus> ronillon, in the ipv4 settings > method
[16:29] <stupidBYdefault> hello.. i need an update fix..
[16:29] <stupidBYdefault> sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:29] <cronus> ronillon, select it for the interface that is connected to the internal network (not the one connected to the internet)
[16:30] <stupidBYdefault> sudo apt-get update -> says :
[16:30] <stupidBYdefault> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[16:30] <ronillon> cronus: hey forget that i have no idea what you are talking about
[16:30] <_jay> Kind of a stupid question, I uninstalled Thunderbird via synaptic yet the .thunderbird folder is still in my home folder (as are other app's dot folders) Is it ok just to delete it? I assume evolution, which I use, doesn't touch this? There is no .evolution folder, that's why I ask, and the T-bird is huge, 1.8 GB.
[16:31] <hXm> hello, i think i got hacked or something, watching the source code of my html testing i see this http://cl.ly/NoJt but if i make grep -Ri i cant see any of those urls in my system, what can i do?
[16:31] <wabash> I'm trying to download and burn the 12.10 iso. Is this DVD only? Or is it also CD?
[16:31] <_jay> I should specify that other uninstalled apps dot folders still exist as well.
[16:32] <surio1> Quick question.. So from 12.10 onwards Unity 2D is not available at all?
[16:32] <cronus> ronillon, this may be more clear https://jeremy.visser.name/2009/03/simple-internet-connection-sharing-with-networkmanager/ (sorry for not being clear)
[16:33] <johnnyborg> _jay: in this folder there are configurations and your downloaded mail, if you are okay with deleting it, it okay to do so
[16:33] <primaloath> k1l: I checked with "dpkg -s". The linux-header files of the appropriate version (3.5.0-26-42) had already been installed.
[16:34] <_jay> Thanks johnny, I'm curious if this is the directory that evolution is referencing, since there is no .evolution folder
[16:34] <surio1> From 12.10 onwards Unity 2D is not available at all?
[16:35] <primaloath> To everyone else, any idea why ubuntu 12.0 displays no GUI (except for the wallpaper) after login, even though I can start terminals just fine?
[16:36] <Fyodorovna> surio1, Not sure when removed exactly but it is no more.
[16:36] <auronandace> surio1: correct
[16:36] <surio1> Not even on 32bit?
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> surio1, lol not even in your wildest dreams.
[16:37] <auronandace> surio1: its gone
[16:37] <surio1> :/:-/
[16:38] <surio1> I get it!
[16:38] <surio1> OK.
[16:38] <_jay> ah it seems evolution tucked them away in the later versions, solved :)
[16:38] <wilee-nilee> surio1, Your now in my ignore OK.
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[16:39] <wanglei> ,,,
[16:39] <surio1> ? Huh? What'd I say wrong?
[16:39] <wanglei> no
[16:40] <hXm> please can someone redirect me to the correct place for ask about security issues?
[16:41] <onesockthief> hey
[16:41] <man_> Hi, when I start Chrome through a keyboard combination, the window does not get focus
[16:41] <anon010> I have just prepared a laptop with Kubuntu 12.10 for a friend of mine who will leave the country for good. He is a first day Linux newbie. Where do I set Kubuntu to automatically install all updates, new kernels, etc automatically without prompting?
[16:41] <man_> What can I do about that? If I start it from the unity launcher, it works
[16:41] <bmxscott1993> wilee-nilee it was the iso proplem with the screen and hat to make a new copy of the on a dvd cd and got the new iso cus i had the old one so i did it on a wr so it can be clear and it work
[16:42] <onesockthief> quit
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Cool, I forget the exact problems, glad you found the problem.
[16:42] <bmxscott1993> yer
[16:42] <ronillon> cronus: yay, my bad, this wasnt what i wanted. i did not expressed myself right. i need share files between two PCs
[16:43] <bmxscott1993> used my brother wr disc with out him nowing
[16:43] <bmxscott1993> and put it on a dvd wr
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, Ah, I can remember now the funky startup.
[16:43] <bmxscott1993> yer
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, I wondered if you had fallen off the bike to many times without a helmet, lol. ;)
[16:44] <bmxscott1993> but i when on the web site the ubuntu one and it say copy it to a dvd not cd
[16:44] <bmxscott1993> lol
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, I say that as a head injury survivor.
[16:45] <ronillon> just curious, what is wr disc?
[16:45] <memand> ronillon: I think he means an RW disc ;)
[16:46] <bmxscott1993> and i download the old one when it come out when it was new
[16:46] <ronillon> oh i thought its something new lol
[16:47] <bmxscott1993> rw means rewritable
[16:50] <bmxscott1993> what anti virus should i get for ubuntu
[16:50] <k1l> !antivirus | bmxscott1993
[16:50] <bmxscott1993> ok thank
[16:52] <starkiller> hello
[16:53] <pecc> screen turns off every 5 mins unless I keep active, have set "suspend when inactive" to 1 hour and "shut down screen when inactive" to 30 min via System Settings (running 12.10)
[16:53] <bmxscott1993> is it safe to run a anti virus one Ubuntu and windows with out clashing together
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, They are two separate systems MS and ubuntu so no problems there.
[16:56] <ronillon> pacc: did you set it in the Brightness and Lock part?
[16:56] <Guest2794> How can I play DVDs Ubuntu? Do I need a special software?
[16:56] <pecc> ronillon: right there, and before you ask I have rebooted
[16:57] <bmxscott1993> ok
[16:57] <bmxscott1993> good to no
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> bmxscott1993, windows wont even read ext type partitions basically, other then with problematic 3rd party apps.
[16:57] <Guest2794> That is, I have Dragon Player but it doesn't want to work
[16:59] <TraN> Guest2794: did you try using vlc?
[16:59] <jrtappers> Guest2794, I find VLC good for DVDs
[16:59] <TraN> :p
[16:59] <bmxscott1993> yer
[16:59] <Guest2794> What do you think about MPlayer?
[17:00] <ronillon> pecc: another place might be a scrensaver. but i cannot find it in the new unity-stupid-thing
[17:00] <Guest2794> I have recalled that I used it extensively a long time ago but from that time the things could change...
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> Guest2794, some disc readers unlike vlc do not have the codecs needed built in you can install the restricted-extras for the desktop you are running if needed..
[17:01] <jrtappers> Guest2794, VLC is GUI, and also simpler to use
[17:01] <Exilepilot> How do you change the amount of workspaces? (12.10)
[17:01] <icedwater> Hi folks, what is the lightest web-browser you would recommend? :)
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> Exilepilot, Amount of work space, what do you mean exactly?
[17:01] <icedwater> I think surf is a little too light for my tastes but I might stick to it... trying xxxterm now :)
[17:01] <jrtappers> icedwater, How light? Links2? Chromium?
[17:02] <icedwater> jrtappers: lighter, far lighter. :P
[17:02] <icedwater> Chromium is actually bulkier on the disk space than Firefox.
[17:03] <jrtappers> icedwater, How light do you need?
[17:03] <Guest2794> BTW, my Ubuntu complains that the battery capacity is equal only about 26%. I am not sure if I should take that warning seriously, but
[17:03] <Exilepilot> wilee-nilee: Not the amount of space, the number of virtual workspaces. When you install Ubuntu your default number of workspaces is 4. How do I change that? Like gnome
[17:03] <icedwater> I'm trying to see what I can find. I don't know what I need, but I would like to do as much as possible and take as little space as possible on my 4G USB stick.
[17:03] <Guest2794> when I installed Windows it worked very slowly from the very beginning
[17:04] <icedwater> So I'm just poking around on different options.
[17:04] <Guest2794> Ubuntu seems to go with a reasonable speed. Slackware was definitely the fastest.
[17:04] <icedwater> I'm planning to switch back to metacity/gnome2 possibly.
[17:04] <icedwater> I might even use openbox, or try dwm...
[17:04] <uvala> I was running ddrescue on live usb of sysrescuecd. it was interrupted when pc was completely turned off (not gone standby) due to expired battery. now pc restarted, does ddrescue recognize the target drive (where it saves the rescued data) again, and continue from where it broke up??
[17:04] <icedwater> But it remains to be seen.
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> Exilepilot, Ah, if it is unity in compiz you may need to install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[17:05] <jrtappers> icedwater, How light is the one they use on the Pi?
[17:06] <Exilepilot> Okay, I am installing compiz now
[17:06] <jrtappers> icedwater, Midori is only 1.1 Mb
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> Exilepilot, Be careful though in compiz unity is a plugin in it on top of gnome, so you can really mess things up, however you can return to the stock setup with commands.
[17:06] <TraN> Exilepilot: you could also try MyUnity
[17:06] <jrtappers> *After this operation, 3,517 kB of additional disk space will be used
[17:06] <Guest2794> how could I know where my DVD disk has been mounted?
[17:06] <ronillon> wilee-nilee: i wonder why is configuration utility not included by default. its the same like with gparted, its available on liveCD, but not after install
[17:07] <jrtappers> Guest2794, should be /dev/dvd
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> ronillon, compiz is not real tricky, but some wil just go in a mess with it and brick their desktop, can be fixed but frustrating for the novice is probably why.
[17:08] <icedwater> jrtappers: Tried midori before, but it's not too bad. Try xxxterm, it looks all right for simple browsing so far.
[17:08] <MartynKeigher> hey all...i edited my ip config according to this guide... http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/ and im not able able to resolve google.com. i DID make sure i restarted my network services!
[17:09] <cronus> uvala, if you have a log file you can run the same command and ddrescue will continue from where it was interrupted
[17:09] <Guest2794> Hm, Mplayer has failed, it simply refuses to play movies from dvd
[17:09] <cronus> uvala, /have/used/
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> ronillon, Personally I stopped using unity a while back I like it but find gnome 3 nicer.
[17:09] <jrtappers> MartynKeigher, Try pinging 127.0.0.1 and gateway
[17:09] <ronillon> you have got a point there. on the other hand, its frustrating having to install it when one wants to make changes. it is this new path ubuntu went. i dont like it at all
[17:10] <k1l> Guest2794: codecs and anti-copy-stuff installed?
[17:10] <Exilepilot> TraN: Could you tell me what repository that's on? I've tried to install that before.
[17:10] <TraN> Exilepilot: look here: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-My-Unity-Configuration-Tool-on-Ubuntu-11.10
[17:11] <Guest73693> I cannot mount a nfs4 partition with FSTAB even though i am following the instructions. COuld please somebody help?
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> ronillon, Recently the releases have gotten bigger then a cd will hold that may be part of it to, I would not just use a confirmation bias to analyze the reasons, save yourself the hassle. ;)
[17:11] <ronillon> wilee-nilee: unity seems nice, but i hate things like: you cannot move unity panel to the right side of the screen, nor change its size
[17:11] <Exilepilot> TraN: Is this compatible with 12.10?
[17:11] <Guest2794> I guess that they are, as far as I remember MPlayer installs a huge collection of codecs by default, though I am not sure, but I don't know too much about anti-copy-stuff
[17:12] <danielboston26> i am having a problem i am trying to install latest version of ubuntu on my asus q500a when it first boots up i get an error saying unsupported image then when i try to load the installer nothing happens
[17:12] <MartynKeigher> jrtappers: both the gateway (192.168.10.101) and 127.0.0.1 ping fine!
[17:12] <danielboston26> i tried installing the 64bit ubuntu could not be the issue?
[17:12] <ronillon> wilee-nilee: to be honest 10.04 was the last release i liked. it goes down the hill since then for me
[17:12] <MartynKeigher> the ip of my server is 192.168.10.165
[17:12] <pecc> ronnillon: right, screensavers exist. I'll look into it.
[17:12] <TraN> Sorry, I dont use 12.10, I run it on 12.04, thats all I can say.. but it should work..
[17:12] <MartynKeigher> i get ping: unknown host www.google.com
[17:13] <MartynKeigher> my name servers are set to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[17:13] <k1l> Guest2794: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[17:13] <pecc> ronillon: 12.04 -> doesn't have screensaver function natively
[17:13] <mika__> It's possible to change XFCE interface to Gnome on Ubuntu Studio 12.04 ?
[17:13] <jrtappers> MartynKeigher, Try pinging a machine on the network by name
[17:13] <Guest2794> Thank you very much, it can be something with this, as MPlayer complains something about encryption
[17:13] <MartynKeigher> if i set it to my router (192.168.10.101) is also get the same results. but i know im online! ;)
[17:13] <danielboston26> hello
[17:13] <danielboston26> can someone help?
[17:14] <SwedeMike> how can I see a changelog between 12.04 kernel 3.2.0-38 and 3.2.0-39 ? I'd like to see the stable patches that was applied between these versions
[17:14] <ronillon> pecc: i have no idea then
[17:14] <MartynKeigher> jrtappers: Name does NOT work. IP works fine!
[17:14] <jrtappers> MartynKeigher, Try pinging this address: 173.194.34.160
[17:14] <k1l> SwedeMike: on packages.ubuntu.com are the changelogs listed to the specific packages
[17:14] <danielboston26> hello?
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> danielboston26, Did that computer come with Windows 8 perchance?
[17:14] <danielboston26> wilee-nilee, it did
[17:15] <danielboston26> is that the problem?
[17:15] <uvala> cronus, I dont know if I used a log file. I think I didnt. if I did, there must have been the word "logfile" in the command line, right?
[17:15] <jrtappers> MartynKeigher, Try using your router/gateway IP for DNS server
[17:15] <MartynKeigher> jrtappers: I get a response!
[17:15] <MartynKeigher> will do i'll edit the conf again
[17:15] <MartynKeigher> bk in 2
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> danielboston26, Hehe welcome to UEFI,  here are two links  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[17:16] <cronus> uvala, iirc ddrescue <source> <destination> <logfile>
[17:16] <danielboston26> wilee-nilee, so ubuntu doesn't support it yet?
[17:16] <uvala> cronus, I followed a video tutorial, in that it was started only with this command: ddrescue /dev/sda mnt/c.img
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> danielboston26, Read the links.
[17:17] <TraN> Exilepilot: forget what I said, it seems like it wont work in 12.10.. sorry about that.. Go with compizconfig..
[17:17] <danielboston26> wilee-nilee, mac has had efi for awhile now
[17:17] <uvala> cronus, so I have only a c.img file in the destination drive
[17:17] <cronus> SwedeMike, try apt-get changelog linux-image-3.2.0-39-generic
[17:17] <stupidBYdefault> pppZero, are u herE?
[17:17] <pecc> ronillon: ok I threw some words in a search engine and found dconf where I should fiddle around with "power" settings... now, to find where those are...
[17:18] <k1l> danielboston26: the problem on efi with windows is, that it comes with secureboot
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> danielboston26, It is not just the gpt part but a boot app.
[17:18] <danielboston26> i see
[17:18] <pecc> ronillon: silly me, it's behind Org -> Gnome -> Desktop -> Screensaver (shouldn
[17:18] <danielboston26> does anyone know if another version of linux supports it?
[17:18] <pecc> ronillon: silly me, it's behind Org -> Gnome -> Desktop -> Screensaver (shouldn't type before I think :P)
[17:18] <cronus> uvala, then i don't think you can resume the copy process.
[17:18] <k1l> danielboston26: read the links above
[17:18] <jk_> danielboston26, Win8 added "Secure Boot" on top of UEFI. The 12.04 LTS distro does not support this, but 12.10 does.
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> danielboston26, There is excellent help on this if you need it at the ubuntu forums as well, you may have it figured out though. ;)
[17:19] <inashdeen> hi there. I need some help. I am not a power user. Me and my friends, we are all sharing the same dsl cable for internet connection. They are running on windows 7, I am using ubuntu 12.04. I want to creater a common folder where me and my friends could share files between each other on this DSL cable. How should I do it. I had install samba
[17:19] <SwedeMike> k1l / cronus: thanks, both those worked.
[17:19] <danielboston26> jk_, i am using 12.10
[17:19] <jrtappers> inashdeen, Which one wil be the server
[17:19] <ronillon> pecc: good for you
[17:19] <inashdeen> I don't mind my computer ( the ubuntu) to become the server
[17:20] <TraN> Is there any way I can hide the tab with recent files and downloads in the dash? (12.04)
[17:20] <inashdeen> jrtappers : I don't mind my computer ( the ubuntu) to become the server
[17:20] <jk_> danielboston26, Check out the Ubuntu forums; the installer package for 12.10 does not recognize the Win8 setup properly and this may be your problem.
[17:20] <danielboston26> i see
[17:20] <uvala> cronus, does ddrescue at least not recognize the paths of the drive that it already covered?
[17:21] <jrtappers> inashdeen, Ok
[17:21] <danielboston26> jk_, do you know of another linux os that will?
[17:22] <cronus> uvala, ddrescue writes what is covered to a logfile. the reason because it cannot continue is that it does not use a linear approach to copying, as dd does
[17:22] <jk_> danielboston26, Unfoirtunately no; I've only used Xubuntu since 2007 except for a bit of testing with Debian squeeze, in a VM. There's lots of discussion of the problems in the Ubuntu forums, though, and most folk do get it to work rather easily.
[17:23] <cronus> uvala, and without that log file it is impossible to guess it.
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> TraN, Not exactly what your looking for, however I use the save no history myself. http://askubuntu.com/questions/92733/how-can-i-disable-recent-documents-in-unity
[17:23] <uvala> cronus, when I use the command you mentioned above, I get an error saying "zsh: command not found: iirc
[17:23] <danielboston26> jk_, can i get a link?
[17:23] <jrtappers> inashdeen, It may be easier to set one of the other computers as the server, using shared folders on windows, then accessing it from the others
[17:23] <cronus> uvala, how did you run ddrescue the first time?
[17:24] <inashdeen> jrtappers : ok, how do i set it
[17:24] <jk_> danielboston26, wilee-nilee gave a couple a bit earlier: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting is one of them.
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> TraN, the record no activity to be succinct.
[17:25] <MartynKeigher> jrtappers: OK. done. but still no ping
[17:25] <anon010> I just created a new user on Kubuntu 12.10 and gave him root rights. The user can not log in. After I enter the password, the password seems to be accepted, the screen goes black for 1 second and then I can see the KDE login screen again.
[17:25] <uvala>  cronus, I applied following commands: 1) fdisk -l  2) mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt 3) ddrescue /dev/sda mnt/c.img     and then it started the process
[17:25] <jrtappers> inashdeen, do you need passwords to login?
[17:26] <mrmcgibby1> Looking for recommendations for a firewall distro.  Thoughts?
[17:26] <inashdeen> jrtappers : i do
[17:26] <anon010> Also, the user does not have a home dir.
[17:26] <TraN> wilee-nilee: no, not exactly what I was looking for, but a step in that direction, thanks for the efforts.. To me, that tab feels very much like a waste of time every time im going to launch an app, because I have to first switch to the apps list.. :)
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> TraN, I think removing it would be a hack.
[17:27] <anon010> Any idea?
[17:27] <icedwater> Do you guys happen to know how I can set program x as an alternative for update-alternatives?
[17:27] <danielboston26> this one is specific to my issue
[17:27] <danielboston26> http://askubuntu.com/questions/207990/asus-q500a-will-not-boot-from-live-dvd
[17:27] <cronus> uvala, try 3) cd /mnt 4) ddrescue /dev/sda c.img c.log
[17:27] <MartynKeigher> here are my interaces..... http://pastebin.com/jaqRGnMa
[17:27] <icedwater> For instance, say I want to use xxxterm as my browser, but only /usr/bin/surf provides /usr/bin/x-www-browser.
[17:27] <TraN> wilee-nilee: probably. wouldnt mind that either though, since I really dont need that particular piece of menu
[17:27] <icedwater> Is there a way to change that somehow..?
[17:28] <MartynKeigher> i changes my dns servers to be 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 and still not pinging google
[17:28] <Guest2794> Hm, I have just discovered that my laptop (to be more precise, KUbuntu) detects wirless networks available in that area
[17:28] <jrtappers> inashdeen, Go on one of the windows computers and share the folder
[17:28] <MartynKeigher> i CAN ping it just fine on my PC thats on the same subnet/LAN
[17:28] <Guest2794> That means that my wireless card is set up properly, doesn't it?
[17:28] <Guest2794> Although I can't still connect my network
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> !details | Guest2794
[17:29] <uvala> cronus, I did, and it started again, it is very fast now, (already 1.5GB covered)
[17:29] <mustmodify_> I'm running Ubuntu, server config. I want to use the connected monitor to show heads-up charts via Firefox... so I need a very-light-weight gui or whatever for that. Any suggestions? I use this machine for lots of dev work and want to keep as many resources for that as possible.
[17:29] <jrtappers> inashdeen, Il just see if there is an easier way
[17:29] <uvala> cronus, maybe it is going through already covered parts
[17:30] <inashdeen> jrtappers : I am trying to make the ubuntu as a server by the way. Am reading way to write on samba.conf
[17:30] <uvala> cronus, there is also this standard expression shown "copying non-tried blocks..." maybe it is really moving straight onto the uncovered parts
[17:30] <uvala> ?
[17:30] <cronus> uvala, i think it will do it all over again. the advantage is that if you loose power you can resume from where it stopped since you have a logfile.
[17:31] <uvala> cronus, even it started from the beginning, it is really a lot faster. maybe it is because of the command you gave me. it will soon reach where it was interrupted
[17:31] <MartynKeigher> FIXED iT!
[17:31] <jrtappers> inashdeen, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/
[17:32] <uvala> cronus, it had rescued 5.3.GB, it is now already at 4.3GB
[17:32] <cronus> uvala, i'm pretty sure it won't continue from where it stopped. sorry
[17:32] <cronus> uvala, you probably have a fast disk
[17:32] <uvala> cronus, no it will not, I mean to say that this will not be a problem.
[17:33] <TraN> any other suggestions on a way to remove the tab with recent files and downloads from the dash in 12.04?
[17:33] <uvala> cronus, the first session took 4-5 hours to rescue 5.3GB, it is now already at 4.3GB in 5 minutes
[17:33] <uvala> cronus, I've been using the same disk in both
[17:34] <Guest2794> There is an icon on the right side of the taskbar, when one click it then it shows the wireless networks available
[17:34] <subz3r0> do i still need the lubuntu alternate cd for encrypting the whole disk with luks(lvm)
[17:34] <killer> where does google chrome stores historry(as in a folder) in ubuntu
[17:35] <uvala> cronus, it is good not to have to wait 4-5 hours again to get to same point, thank you very much, you helped me a lot!
[17:35] <cronus> uvala, maybe you're right then. i am curious to see if this speed drops.
[17:35] <subz3r0> killer: should be something like .chrome @home dir
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> subz3r0, The alternate is not around anymore.
[17:35] <killer> subz3r0: nope
[17:35] <Guest2794> When I click on my network it seems to want to do its job, but it wants password, what is the password (is it WPA key?)
[17:35] <uvala> cronus, :)) it did drop, actually. it slowed down for the last 2-3 min, moving only 150MB
[17:35] <subz3r0> wilee-nilee: ubuntu-12.04.2-alternate-amd64.iso
[17:36] <escott_> Guest2794, yes
[17:36] <avrelaun> Hi, I've got a problem on a thinkpad edge laptop running 12.10
[17:36] <Guest2794> Hm, strange
[17:36] <Guest2794> Not connected still
[17:36] <subz3r0> wilee-nilee: there is also a lubuntu alternate... so no idea if i need it to encrypt the whole disk
[17:36] <avrelaun> after resuming from suspend, it can't connect to a known wifi network
[17:36] <dr_willis> isent wpa like  considered  unsafe?
[17:36] <cronus> uvala, that's good to know. thanks for the info.
[17:36] <subz3r0> dr_willis: no its not.
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> subz3r0, must be past 12.04,
[17:37] <mustmodify_> anyone have experience with openbox?
[17:37] <dr_willis> mustmodify_: lots of us do
[17:37] <avrelaun> I'm thinking suspend isn't done correctly
[17:37] <mustmodify_> if I just want to run firefox with a minimum of overhead, will that do it?
[17:37] <dr_willis> mustmodify_: you dont need a wm at all. ;-)
[17:37] <avrelaun> how can I correct this behaviour ?
[17:38] <mustmodify_> I mean from the console
[17:38] <dr_willis> openbox or any wm can work
[17:38] <mustmodify_> is openbox a good choice?
[17:38] <uvala> cronus, sure :)) I had another question, after the interrupted session I have now this c.img file of 5.3 GB size in my target drive. I dont know how to open this file to get to the recovered files. I guess when the current process is finished I will have the same type of file, could you help me know how?
[17:38] <Eriko> hola mimecar
[17:38] <mustmodify_> I saw it mentioned several places.
[17:38] <mustmodify_> but that doesn't make it good. :)
[17:39] <Eriko> mimecar ayuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuda
[17:39] <dr_willis> mustmodify_:  openbox  is ok.  your needs may differ.. try it and see
[17:39] <Eriko> merda
[17:39] <Eriko> aqui no esta
[17:39] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone . How do I search for a folder / file in the gui way. I had a folder which said ****interviews**.***
[17:40] <Vivekananda> earlier In gnome I had the search option in nautilus but lubuntu 12.04 does not. How to do this ?
[17:40] <DJones> !es | Eriko
[17:40] <TraN> Vivekananda: should be a button, top right in nautilys
[17:40] <TraN> *u
[17:41] <Vivekananda> TraN: There is but I am on LUbuntu now and pcfman does not
[17:41] <Eriko> sabia que si decia eso apareceria alguien español
[17:41] <cronus> uvala, iirc you should run kpartx -a /mnt/c.img and it creates entries in /dev/mapper for the partitions (ie /dev/mapper/loop0p1). u can use nautilus then to mount these
[17:41] <TraN> ouch, sorry, was reading too quick.
[17:41] <k1l> !english > Eriko
[17:42] <uvala> oh, great, thank you so much cronus!
[17:42] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: always a pleasure
[17:42] <Eriko> DJones de que me conoces
[17:42] <cronus> uvala, me too.
[17:45] <Guest60206> In the future, if somebody has problems with wireless, perhaps it will be enough to say to click that icon of wireless networks on the taskbar - when wireless network is disconnected it is not easy to figure out at once that  that icon refers to wireless network
[17:47] <avrelaun> I tried adding SUSPEND_MODULES=rtl8192ce to my pm config
[17:47] <mustmodify_> I must be doing this wrong. `xinit openbox-session` says "xinit: uable to run server "X": no such file or directory" ...
[17:47] <mustmodify_> shouldn't apt-get have installed that dependency for me?
[17:47] <mustmodify_> xorg
[17:48] <k-stz> my grub shows many ubuntu kernels all added over time through update... The update today "broke" my system. now the top entry in grub 2.6.46 graphics doesn't work but 2.6.45 does. How can I remove the top broken entry from grub?
[17:49] <k1l> mustmodify_: why not using a *dm, like lightdm or lxdm?
[17:50] <mustmodify_> I just want to show firefox instead of an unused terminal, and use it as a heads-up display. I have no idea what program to use -- just want something light-weight.
[17:51] <mustmodify_> sorry, I accidentally closed the window.
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> k-stz, What release are you running?
[17:51] <mustmodify_> k1l: what do you recommend?
[17:51] <cronus> mustmodify_, i just checked dependencies and it seems that xinit recommends but not requires xserver-xorg
[17:51] <k-stz> wilee-nilee: 10.04 lts
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> k-stz, You can look in synaptic for the kernel.
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> only one more month of support for the dektop however k-stz
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> desktop version
[17:53] <mustmodify_> cronus: interesting, thanks.
[17:53] <k-stz> wilee-nilee: can't be helped, 2.6 supports my wlan natively :(
[17:54] <Pheedip> how is the support for built in 3G modems in ubuntu? thinking of getting a laptop with one built in
[17:54] <ikonia> Pheedip: depends on the chip
[17:56] <Pheedip> I think it's a Qualcomm Goobi200 chip
[17:56] <Pheedip> Gobi*
[17:57] <Pheedip> yeah its a Qualcomm Gobi 2000 chip
[17:57] <ikonia> Pheedip: so research that chip and linux support
[18:02] <junk> Unable to login
[18:02] <junk> Getting Freeze at Login
[18:03] <primaloath> This may be a stupid question, but is there any way to reinstall ubuntu 12.0 from within ubuntu itself?
[18:04] <davanger> anyone has gotten openvas working on 12.10?
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> primaloath, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Booting_an_ISO_from_a_Menuentry
[18:05] <primaloath> wilee-nilee, Thanks!
[18:05] <davanger> gsad doesnt work for me...
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> primaloath, no problem. ;)
[18:06] <DX099> hello, I would like to know if I could right now choose the 13.04 repos
[18:06] <DX099> in my 12.10 install ?
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> DX099, an upgrade?
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> DX099, 13.04 is not a full release, the general advice is to not run it as main OS.
[18:09] <danielboston26> hello i am now having a issue my keyboard is not working
[18:09] <danielboston26> i have a asus q500a
[18:09] <danielboston26> is there a driver or something wrong?
[18:09] <DX099> wilee-nilee, ok
[18:10] <DX099> wilee-nilee, but is it really unstable-buggy right now ?
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> DX099, I have it dual booted with no problems, however I rarely use it, so I can't really say. It is a matter of what can you afford to lose if it goes bad, and are you skilled enough to fix it or at least be backed up.
[18:12] <danielboston26> hello?? does anyone know my issue?
[18:12] <DX099> wilee-nilee, alright
[18:13] <subz3r0> wilee-nilee: lubuntu-12.10-alternate-amd64.iso  ? ;) so past 12.10? :p
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> subz3r0,  believe so if you google alternate Ubuntu now shows the net install  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[18:16] <akhil_> Hey!! I have a small question. How can we change the size of desktop icons?
[18:16] <akhil_> in ubuntu 12.04
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> subz3r0, The net install I would think has the luks option.
[18:16] <danielboston26> hello??
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> akhil_, Right click icon-resize
[18:16] <meet> is there anyway I can make the notifications in 12.04 more interactive?
No,I want to change the size of each icon at once
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> danielboston26, With a net search on that computer I found 3 hits none relative, if someone knows here they will answer likely.
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> akhil_, Never seen one other then changing the resolution.
[18:18] <danielboston26> wilee-nilee, ya there something seem to be a answer
then how do you change the resolution?
[18:18] <subz3r0> wilee-nilee: thanks. But the 12.10 has cryptsetup and lvm2 included as well :)
[18:19] <subz3r0> now lets cross the fingers that everything works well... :/
[18:20] <codepython777> I have user1, user2, ... I need to start a process /user on my machine at boot not as root, but as user, and redirect the output to the home directory of each user for this process. What is the right way to do this?
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> akhil_, type resolution in the dash if you're running unity
[18:20] <akhil_> ok got it thans anyways
[18:20] <escott_> codepython777, with su in rc.local
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> it will change the whole desktop, I doubt it is the answer for your needs
[18:21] <codepython777> escott_: so -> su user1; /home/user1/startprocess > ... 2>&1 -- something like this?
[18:22] <dr_willis> su user -c command
[18:23] <dr_willis> i think
[18:23] <escott_> codepython777, easiest to su -c /some/script and have the redirection in the script (remember the redirection happens in the enclosing sh shell
[18:24] <hidnshadows> Hey guys, I think I pulled a stupid
[18:24] <akhil_> Hey!! I just installed gnome-system-tools but i don't know where to find and run it.Can anyone please help me?
[18:25] <hidnshadows> I tried installing a package from the web (which I'm really new to) and got frustrated, so I just ended up adding a repo and geting the CLI form of the program. Now I get the message "nautilus-sendto ppp libglib2.0-0 isc-dhcp-client nautilus gnome-icon-theme-symbolic"
[18:26] <hidnshadows> I have the feeling it's an easy fix, but for the life of me I can't remember where to look
[18:26] <tyrog> Hi everyone. How to customize Unity in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? Thanks
[18:26] <dr_willis> tons of tweak tools out there tyrog
[18:26] <dr_willis> depends on what you want
[18:27] <tyrog> dr_willis: Which one allows for more customization overall? besides CCSM xD
[18:27] <junk> join
[18:27] <dr_willis> depends on what you want......
[18:28] <dr_willis> ccsm is just compiz settings
[18:28] <timmo_> ubuntu server 12.10 SATA to SATA files are copying slowly (100KB/s) but hpdarm shows decent drive speeds, and ideas?
[18:29] <tyrog> dr_willis: I was talking about the CCSM Unity plugin xD
[18:29] <subz3r0> puhh.. got it... was able to mount the lvm :)
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> tyrog, here is a pdf that seems with a quick glance to have info that may help you. https://frenchfortunecookie.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/ubuntu-12-04-lts-unity-customization-guide-v1-0.pdf
[18:30] <subz3r0> whats the filebrowser in lubunt?
[18:30] <subz3r0> gksudo thunar?
[18:30] <Belial> pcmanfm
[18:30] <subz3r0> thanks
[18:31] <hidnshadows> What does it mean when apt is saying I have "held packages" and where can I go to clear them?
[18:32] <escott_> !pinning | hidnshadows
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> hidnshadows, Generally it is apps available without all the packages present, usually fixed over a short time. Naming the specif held might be helpful, post the terminal output from  a sudo update-grub in pastebin.
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> *specific
[18:34] <tyrog> wilee-nilee: That is one simply amazing guide. Is there an updated version?
[18:34] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee I just run "sudo update-grub"?
[18:34] <iceroot> hidnshadows: normally it means you are using "apt-get upgrade" instead of "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:34] <iceroot> subz3r0: chromium
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> iceroot, Hehe I was hesitant to offer that option without knowing more. ;)
[18:35] <iceroot> wilee-nilee: :)
[18:35] <subz3r0> any reason why i cant access my samba share within "gksudo pcmanfm"? smb://ip doesnt work
[18:35] <iceroot> subz3r0: why gksudo?
[18:35] <hidnshadows> iceroot yes, doesn't dist-upgrade upgrade the entire OS? (I haven't messed with CLI linux in a few years)
[18:35] <iceroot> hidnshadows: no
[18:36] <subz3r0> because of the gui?
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> tyrog, I found it randomly.
[18:36] <iceroot> !dist-upgrade | hidnshadows
[18:36] <iceroot> subz3r0: and why root access?
[18:36] <subz3r0> because i crashed my bootloader
[18:36] <subz3r0> dualboot
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> hidnshadows, Run that command in the terminal, copy and paste all the text shown to the pastebin website and pot the address of it here.
[18:36] <hidnshadows> iceroot thanks for enlightening me... I'll be sulking off now :D Thanks
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> *put
[18:37] <iceroot> hidnshadows: you are welcome
[18:37] <subz3r0> both encrypted..... so i need to backup my files.... atm im using a live cd, decrypted the disk, put the lvm on its way... so now i want to backup the files
[18:37] <subz3r0> without root i cant copy the files...
[18:39] <hXm> whats wrong with grub-install recheck?
[18:39] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee it just output all of the boot images I have on my drive
[18:39] <bekks> subz3r0: SO whats wrong with creating a backup as root?
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> hidnshadows, Doh I meant sudo apt-get update   my bad. :(
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> bekks, I would just use clonezilla if you want an image.
[18:41] <subz3r0> bekks: well i opened the filebrowser with gksudo... so i can access the files... but i want to backup the files on my other pc. the deal is that smb://ip doesnt work in "pcmanfm" when i do it without gksudo it works, but not possible to backup the files without root rights
[18:41] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee I was going to say... Running that now, I'll have the pastebin for ya shortlee
[18:41] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee shortly* Gah I can't even type today e.e
[18:42] <bekks> wilee-nilee: Tell it subz3r0 :)
[18:43] <paolo> sublimes creatures
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> bekks, I was wondering why you asked as I recall you are a experienced user.
[18:44] <morrowyn> hi
[18:44] <Gaming4JC> hi
[18:45] <morrowyn> i have the following problem:  ls -l gives: drwxr-xr-x 10 root root    4096 Mar 23 11:41 web10
[18:45] <morrowyn> mkdir -p web10/app
[18:45] <morrowyn> mkdir: cannot create directory `web10/app': Permission denied
[18:45] <morrowyn> i'm doing this as root
[18:45] <Gaming4JC> I am trying to run a loop in terminal, but I seem to be doing something wrong. "while : service apache2 restart; do : sleep 12h; done" (restarting a service without cron)
[18:46] <Gaming4JC> any suggestions? :)
[18:46] <bekks> wilee-nilee: Yeah, but since not reading the full backlog, I just asked whats wrong with that approach for him.
[18:46] <Flannel> Gaming4JC: Why don't you want to use cron?
[18:46] <eboyblue3> Do you guys support PowerPC AND Raring?
[18:47] <Gaming4JC> Flannel: easier since I am just testing it
[18:47] <k-stz> wilee-nilee: regarding the linux-image, i uninstalled it thorugh synaptic, but it still showed up in grub. But i solved the graphics problem by simple downloading and reinstalling nvidia drivers.
[18:47] <MartynKeigher> just instaleld FTP on my ubunut server using sudo apt-get install vsftpd and i cannot connect using my local username account? i also uncommented anonymous_enable=YES and i can connect anonymously but i cant see the folder structure of my server.
[18:47] <eboyblue3> Do you guys support PowerPC AND Raring? (2nd post, did anyone notice me?)
[18:47] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee iceroot http://pastebin.com/Hd4zW0Qf
[18:48] <eboyblue3> !powerpc
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> k-stz, The kernel has 3 notations in synaptic, the config files are probably still there.
[18:48] <eboyblue3> Nope, no bots here
[18:48] <bekks> !patience | eboyblue3
[18:48] <eboyblue3> :\
[18:49] <eboyblue3> !impatient | eboyblue3
[18:49] <OerHeks> eboyblue3, raring is still in Beta, join #ubuntu+1 for support
[18:50] <eboyblue3> OK
[18:50] <k-stz> eboyblue3 you can google the answer maybe, powerpc is written short as ppc hence: "ubuntu ppc" could be more helpful
[18:50] <Dougie187> Anyone know of a good site that has reviews of different version control system hosting sites?
[18:50] <codepython777> From rc.local, I do a su user1 -c "/home/user1/myscript" which creates a background process. How can i send a "Ctrl+C" to that process? Or perhaps bring it to foreground?
[18:51] <ikonia> Dougie187: not really something this channel deals with
[18:51] <Dougie187> ikonia: sorry. Any recommendations on where I should go? :P
[18:51] <hidnshadows> codepython777 try looking it up in the list of system processes?
[18:52] <ikonia> Dougie187: no, sorry
[18:52] <escott_> codepython777, you would send a kill signal to that PID
[18:52] <codepython777> hidnshadows: I did a ps and found it process id.
[18:52] <Dougie187> k, thanks.
[18:53] <morrowyn> nvm found it : chatter -a and -i did the trick :)
[18:53] <codepython777> is there a way to list the process tree of a user instead of just ps -u user1 which gives a flat list?
[18:53] <k-stz> wilee-nilee: thx, I see the headers now
[18:53] <ikonia> codepython777: pstree ?
[18:53] <cronus> hello everyone. does anyone know how to start upstart session jobs without login. the documentation says to run init --user, but from where and how? thanks
[18:53] <codepython777> ikonia: i need the process ids in the tree
[18:53] <codepython777> looking up docs
[18:53] <inashdeen> hi there, My computer is running on ubuntu 12.04 and two other friends are running on windows 7. they belong to the workgroup HAUS and we are all connected through dsl cables. my friends laptop, named COMPAQ-PC is the server. on my ubuntu 12.04, I installed samba, opened /etc/samba/smb.conf and had set the workgroup to HAUS. I opened. "Windows Network" in nautilus and could see COMPAQ-PC in the list. but when I click on it, it gav
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> hidnshadows, you add a source for gnome-icon-theme-symbolic, I don't see it with a quick look but in github? Not really sure from a look at the link
[18:54] <inashdeen> from server. what did i do wrong?
[18:54] <ikonia> codepython777: "pstree" process in a tree
[18:54] <Gaming4JC> Dougie187: http://biz30.timedoctor.com/git-mecurial-and-cvs-comparison-of-svn-software/ looks interesting, courtesy DDG - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=comparison+of+subversion+git+hosting
[18:54] <codepython777> pstree is nice :)
[18:54] <Dougie187> Thanks Gaming4JC
[18:54] <codepython777> now i need to send a "Ctrl+C" to a particular process id. kill 1370 does that?
[18:54] <ikonia> codepython777: you should use a signal
[18:55] <subz3r0> bekks, wilee-nilee: anyway... i'll do it now with rsync.. :>
[18:55] <escott_> codepython777, kill sends a signal so does ctrl-c. kill can send different signals if you want
[18:55] <codepython777> ikonia: how? The actual program stops cleanly when Ctrl+C is pressed
[18:55] <ikonia> codepython777: man kill
[18:56] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee I need to add a source? I'm really sorry, but your response doesn't make a lot of sense :/
[18:56] <codepython777> ikonia: dont know which signal i should send for ctrl+C
[18:56] <trism> codepython777: ctrl+c is sigint
[18:56] <ikonia> codepython777: if you read the man page I just suggested, you'll see
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> hidnshadows, I was just wondering if you had added one to the sources.list or sources.list.d these are where urls are for ubuntu to call for updates. I wondered if you had added one that is conflicting.
[18:58] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee I wouldn't be surprised, this all happened after I added a repo for f.lux a few days ago
[18:58] <codepython777> kill -s INT 1370 -- did not work
[18:59] <hidnshadows> codepython777 If you don't care about system stability, or if it's a low-level process, you could just "kill (PID)" if nothing else works
[18:59] <codepython777> hidnshadows: kill PID does not work either. The process is still running
[18:59] <codepython777> I tried STOP and TERM as well
[18:59] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee Is there some convenient tool to check for conflicting repos?
[18:59] <escott_> codepython777, its probably in a syscall
[19:00] <shomonn> hi, how do I create a share using nautilus so it can be seen from elsewhere in my local network?
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> hidnshadows, Ah a ppa?
[19:00] <codepython777> escott_: if i just run it on command line and press ctrl+C it exits cleanly
[19:00] <codepython777> but i am currently running it from /etc/rc.local -> su user1 -c "a bash script"
[19:02] <codepython777> kill -9 works - but is not clean
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> hidnshadows, If it was a ppa you added say this one https://launchpad.net/~kilian/+archive/f.lux  did you see this on the page, "You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA"
[19:03] <johntron> I can't seem to get quantal server installed. I'm installing from a live USB, and everything goes fine until the end of the "Installing software" part. Then it fails and gives me the installation menu. Here's my syslog from the install: https://gist.github.com/johntron/5232248
[19:03] <escott_> codepython777, what user are you sending the signal ass?
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> hidnshadows, However I can't guarantee this is the problem, just a guess looking at the app though
[19:03] <escott_> as?
[19:04] <inashdeen> hi, I am having a problem connecting to windows server using samba. It keeping on giving Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server . what should I do
[19:04] <codepython777> escott_: as the normal user
[19:04] <codepython777> user1
[19:05] <johntron> There's an error about Python dependencies and "Unable to locate package language-pack-en" – I tried to fix the last one manually, but it didn't seem to help
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> inashdeen, Hmm I see precise and efi in that log is this a uefi setup=gpt and fastboot?
[19:05] <escott_> codepython777, without more specifics we can't really help
[19:05] <inashdeen> wilee-nilee : the what?
[19:06] <Gaming4JC> johntron: I had a similar problem once when packages fail to download during install. Try to install the server offline, then apt-get update/upgrade once installed - might help. It has with me before :)
[19:06] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee I'll try just removing it, it's not even the one that I used in the end.
[19:06] <abh_> hi
[19:06] <codepython777> escott_: The process I start is a python process. As you suggested, i created a bash script that just starts "python myscript.py > x 2>&1 &"
[19:06] <codepython777> escott_: Now i am trying to send Ctrl+c to that python execution
[19:06] <escott_> codepython777, like a ps aux output, and the exact kill command you are running
[19:06] <abh_> how can i solve this problem: when lightdm starts, it starts only guest session
[19:07] <johntron> Gaming4JC: good tip, thanks! I'll give it a shot. This is the second time in a row this has happened, so I'm thinking it's something else
[19:07] <shomonn> how do I see a directory shared via nautilus's "sharing options" from another computer on my local network?
[19:08] <escott_> shomonn, depends on what OS that other computer runs
[19:08] <Gaming4JC> shomonn: is your other computer running Ubuntu too?
[19:08] <shomonn> ubuntu
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> inashdeen, I'm not your best helper here, but you said quantal I see precise in the sources, efi is a gpt setup seen in apple computers and now seen as uefi with the new secure boot commonly called here fast boot, 12.04 wont run in a uefi setup.
[19:08] <shomonn> sorry debian
[19:08] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee it's still "some packages have unmet dependencies"
[19:09] <escott_> shomonn, i wouldn't use samba to share from unix to unix, but if you do its on the "windows network"
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> hidnshadows, Not sure really as I said with those errors.
[19:09] <inashdeen> wilee-nilee : Errr... I think you are answering to a different person. I was asking bout samba
[19:09] <shomonn> well it was a simple button escott - in nautilus.. so I thought it'd be easy
[19:09] <shomonn> what is the best way?
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> inashdeen, Ah I will look back sorry about that. ;)
[19:09] <shomonn> apart from ftp or scp
[19:10] <multipack> 12.04 does boot on a uefi
[19:10] <Gaming4JC> shomonn: LanShark is also an easy solution, but requires some configuring and only works over LAN.
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> johntron,  Hmm I see precise and efi in that log is this a uefi setup=gpt and fastboot?
[19:10] <shomonn> I do have samba installed
[19:10] <oliverp> Help! I have created a file named "-f", and now I can't delete it! rm -f does not work, because it interprets -f as a parameter. I've tried with " and ' around it, and even backslash, Even rm *f does not work!
[19:10] <shomonn> but nothing in /var/lib/samba/usershares
[19:11] <Mathias> i have a weird "problem" (not really a big problem, but a really annoying one)
[19:11] <escott_> oliverp, rm -- -f
[19:11] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee The thing that I'm confused about the most is, why the gnome-icon-theme-symbolic keeps getting brought up. I've never tried to DL that...
[19:11] <oliverp> escott_: Thank you!!
[19:11] <Mathias> i have two displays, on one (my tv) text in terminals and xbmc appears green, on the laptop's display everything is normal
[19:11] <johntron> wilee-nilee: hmm, it may be, but I'm building it for a bios system
[19:12] <johntron> wilee-nilee: maybe I missed some settings when I formatted the drives? I'm trying to build a bootable drive for a non-(u)efi machine using an efi machine
[19:13] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee I found the problem repo, everything seems to be in order now
[19:13] <hidnshadows> wilee-nilee iceroot thanks for the help guys!
[19:13] <johntron> it fails before I get to installing grub, but the partition table scheme may be wrong
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> johntron, you said quantal I see precise in the sources, efi is a gpt setup seen in apple computers and now seen as uefi with the new secure boot commonly called here fast boot, 12.04 wont run in a uefi setup. I doubt I can really be of any help I just noticed these notations in your log.
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> hidnshadows, Cool. ;)
[19:14] <escott_> johntron, the installer will note /sys/firmware/efi and try to set things up correctly for efi which will be incorrect for bios
[19:14] <multipack> wilee-nilee, i am using 12.04  on a uefi machine, why do you keep saying it wont run?
[19:15] <johntron> wilee-nilee: my previous attempt was Precise, but this is definitely a Quetzal image: https://gist.github.com/johntron/5232248#file-gistfile1-txt-L1035
[19:15] <tiimox> ##hi all
[19:15] <Gaming4JC> hi
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> multipack, Not sure why, I am avoiding uefi until needed, but the shim for the fastboot I believe is not in 12.04
[19:15] <johntron> escott_: ahh, ok. is there anything I can do?
[19:16] <multipack> you need to set a efi partition
[19:16] <multipack> around about 200MB then install as normal
[19:16] <johntron> but the target system is not efi
[19:16] <user__> Hello,  I seem have to have a small issue with Xubuntu. I had my battery display working fine the other day, but now it is not appearing. I have checked under settings and I have it set to always show :/
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> multipack, I'm glad it works for you, I have just seen the people I know who know say this, I had thought it was true.
[19:17] <multipack> it needs to be done in an expert setup rather than just a normal install
[19:17] <bynw> I'm having trouble witha  process that wont quit properly. it runs in the command line and normally ctrl-c should close it just fine. but it keeps running. killall doesnt stop it. kill PID doesnt stop it. kill -9 (or -15 or any other number) doesnt do it. kill -9 -1 also will not work. right now only rebooting seems to kill it off. anything else i can try?
[19:17] <escott_> johntron, its not going to be easy. it is possible to have bios boot a gpt disk. so thats probably the best approach. do the setup for efi, then chroot in, remove the efi partition, add a grub_bios partition. remove grub-efi and install the grub bios
[19:17] <multipack> it took me a while to figure it out
[19:17] <johntron> escott_: yeah, i was afraid of that. ok
[19:17] <abh_> how is possible to have ligthdm starts with only guest session?
[19:18] <ikonia> bynw: if kill -9 does not kill it, it is zombying
[19:18] <tiimox> how can i use my gtv 5668 decorder to watch fta channels, am in kenya
[19:18] <johntron> this would be so much easier if I had another sata port or a target that can boot from usb :\
[19:19] <bynw> ikonia: no bullets to the head for a zombie?
[19:20] <ikonia> bynw: what is the process ?
[19:20] <escott_> bynw, zombies are already dead. can't kill dead processes
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> multipack, Did you use a other release to do this a 3rd party ubuntu setup like this  Linux-Secure-Remix, just curious
[19:20] <mad_enz> bynw has been watching too much walking dead
[19:20] <bynw> its webcam ... but it wont restart with the zombie out there
[19:21] <ikonia> bynw: which software
[19:22] <bynw> webcam is the software name
[19:23] <ikonia> bynw: where did you get it
[19:23] <escott_> bynw, if the problem originated in the kernel driver for the card then removing the module and reloading it might reset the hardware
[19:23] <bynw> iknoia ... apt-get
[19:23] <ikonia> bynw: ok, so is it currently running now ?
[19:23] <bynw> its a zombie now
[19:24] <ikonia> bynw: can you please type "ps -ef | grep webcam" and pastebin the output please.
[19:24] <hamiddddddd> hi internet is feltered here how can i pass the filtering
[19:24] <ikonia> hamiddddddd: you don't
[19:24] <ikonia> hamiddddddd: you comply with your hosts filtering
[19:24] <Gaming4JC> !package | tor hamiddddddd
[19:24] <ikonia> Gaming4JC: how is that helpful ?
[19:24] <Gaming4JC> !package tor |  hamiddddddd
[19:25] <Gaming4JC> tor package
[19:25] <Gaming4JC> very helpful
[19:25] <Gaming4JC> :)
[19:25] <hamiddddddd> Gaming4JC: i have tor but not working can u help me with it
[19:25] <tux_> !package vrms
[19:25] <ikonia>  !package is not a valid bot command
[19:26] <Seveas> !info vrms
[19:26] <ikonia> I never knew that's what it stood fore
[19:26] <ikonia> for
[19:26] <bynw> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644228/
[19:26] <tux_> haha ;)
[19:27] <ikonia> bynw: ok - so please do "kill -9 2468"
[19:27] <ikonia> bynw: then re-run ps -ef | grep webcam
[19:27] <ikonia> bynw: (please put the output in a pastebin again)
[19:29] <bynw> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644241/
[19:30] <ikonia> bynw: ok, so if you type "top" to you see any "zombie" in the top right
[19:30] <B|aster> hey I am reading about dual booting windows and ubuntu, and in the directions here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot) it says to burn an ISO of LiveCD and I am wondering why to use LiveCD?  I want to install onto a partion of my HDD, not have to keep a CD in the drive.
[19:30] <ikonia> bynw: (FYI: sudo su is not good)
[19:31] <bynw> ikonia: yep 1 zombie
[19:31] <ikonia> bynw: ok, that's good, so there is the problem
[19:31] <ikonia> bynw: (or at least confirmation)
[19:32] <inashdeen> I have gone nearly crazy trying to connect to my friend's windows server using samba. when I open nautilus, I can see my friends PC (COMPAQ-PC) in "windows network". but when I click on it, it says " Failed to retrieve share list from server" . :( how do I fix this. I really need it today. I am using ubuntu 12.04
[19:32] <jhutchins_wk> B|aster: There are a number of ways to do it, the live CD is probably the easisest, but the netinstall image is also a good way to go.
[19:33] <B|aster> jhutchins_wk:  Does the live CD actually install itself to the HDD ?
[19:33] <jhutchins_wk> B|aster: dual-booting has been a feature of linux installers since very early in it's development.
[19:33] <jhutchins_wk> B|aster: It can, yes.
[19:33] <DJones> B|aster: The live cd is just used to install Ubuntu, once its installed you don't need to keep the cd in the drive
[19:34] <DJones> B|aster: You can also put the iso on a USB stick and install from that if your computer supports booting from USB
[19:34] <jhutchins_wk> B|aster: The live CD as well as most other options can also pull additional and updated components from on-line repositories if they have a working ne3twork connection.
[19:34] <B|aster> oh ok
[19:34] <DJones> !install | B|aster This give you some more info,
[19:34] <B|aster> so if I burn the liveCD iso to a DVD, and then boot from that, it will partion my drive and install itself on the partion?
[19:35] <jhutchins_wk> B|aster: With some input from you along the way, yes.
[19:35] <madmouser1> inashdeen, open nautilus, File> connect , Connet to server and type the detail to the server and share manually & test that way
[19:35] <B|aster> jhutchins_wk: ok thanks
[19:35] <bingo> how can I setup a home e-mail server in Ubuntu ?
[19:36] <jhutchins_wk> B|aster: First step on a great journey - welcome!
[19:36] <B|aster> hehe ty
[19:36] <elixir> Hi. My wifi on ubuntu 12.10 is not working. lspci -nn | grep 0280 shows me Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless -N 1000 [8086:0083] and rfkill list all shows me nothing. Any help please?
[19:36] <inashdeen> madmouser1: what do I put in the server details?
[19:36] <elyeo> Hey guys, can anyone tell me the command for how to view mounted filesystems, I've completely forgotten it :p
[19:36] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  i often find it easier to just use winscp on windows and ssh on linux to transfer files.. windows can be a pain with samba at times.. disable the windows firewall and setup a guest share on the linux box.. see if the windowss box can connect to it. also use the ip# not the server name  in the address bars
[19:37] <madmouser1> inashdeen, select type "Windows Share"
[19:37] <madmouser1> in server the name or IP address of the machine you are trying to connect to
[19:37] <inashdeen> madmouser1 : it gave me the same error. Failed to retrieve share list from server
[19:37] <madmouser1> in Share the Share on the server
[19:38] <madmouser1> from command line you can try: smbclient -L //server -U user
[19:38] <dr_willis> you may want to totally disable any firewalls on either machine  for the testing also
[19:38] <bingo> is there a guide which I can follow to setup my home own domain e-mail server ?
[19:38] <inashdeen> dr_willis : what is winscp? I can't really change any setting on the windows machine though. its not mine.
[19:38] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  its a scp client for windows
[19:38] <inashdeen> dr_willis: how do i get the ip address of the server?
[19:38] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  ipconfig or ifconfig
[19:41] <cronus> elyeo, you mean mount?
[19:42] <inashdeen> dr_willis : I can't change any setting on the Windows PC. second, the server I am talking about is named COMPAQ-PC. I can find it in "Windows Network". Just can't connect. so how do I find the ip adress of it? I tried ifconfig, but it gave me the ip of something else I guess
[19:42] <B|aster> when installing into dual boot with windows, would you recommend LiveCD or Netinstall?
[19:42] <elyeo> cronus: I'm unsure on what the command is, but basically all I need to do is remount the /cdrom drive during the livecd as writable, its actually a usb stick and it has some files on the USB I need to delete because they're causing a crash with Ubiquity, and I can't delete them any other way because now I've no operating systems on this machine :p! Have you any ideas on what I should do :)?
[19:42] <B|aster> I am hoping the installer will do the partioning for me aswell.
[19:42] <ikonia> B|aster: keep it simple - use a cd
[19:42] <codepython777> seems like python-imaging on ubuntu does not have jpeg support - is that true?
[19:43] <B|aster> ikonia:  LiveCD or MinimalCD?
[19:43] <Whiskey`Wonka> anyone on 12.10 and installed cacti with apt-get?
[19:43] <ikonia> B|aster: standard desktop install CD
[19:43] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: why ?
[19:43] <cronus> elyeo, oh. i wasn't sure of what you ment. mount -o remount,rw /cdrom sould work
[19:44] <elyeo> Thanks cronus, I'll reboot and give it a try :)
[19:44] <badpie> Thanks cronus!
[19:44] <Whiskey`Wonka> ikonia: im trying to access the cacti page but the installer did not make any links
[19:44] <Whiskey`Wonka> so im at a loss as to whats up, even the default apache page isnt there
[19:44] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: where are you looking for the links ?
[19:45] <cronus> badpie, ?
[19:45] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: if the default apache page is not there....that suggests your apache config is wrong, manually/visually check it
[19:45] <Whiskey`Wonka> http://10.205.1.254/ and added cacti/ to it and nothing (on the old cacti box that was retired this is where it was at after a default apt-get install)
[19:45] <cronus> badpie, ooh..
[19:46] <Gaming4JC> Someone's computer I am helping with can't get programs to run - <unknown>:7610): IBUS-WARNING **: Unable to load /var/lib/dbus/machine-id: Failed to open file '/var/lib/dbus/machine-id': Permission denied
[19:46] <Gaming4JC> any idea how to fix this?
[19:46] <B|aster> why is the download called *-amd64.iso ?  I have an Intel CPU :)
[19:46] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: that's an IP - not a name based host
[19:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> ikonia: i did check it, it looks fine, /var/www is empty (expected as ive not done anything with it)
[19:46] <ikonia> B|aster: AMD is the 64bit platform
[19:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> ikonia: right i do not access the site via name
[19:46] <ikonia> Gaming4JC: looks at the permissions onthe file
[19:46] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: that's probably the issue,
[19:46] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: the IP will default to the fist name based host,
[19:46] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: the apache config relies on host headers
[19:47] <Whiskey`Wonka> in 10 years it never was before. is something new in 12.10 or with cacti .8.8?
[19:47] <inashdeen> dr_willis : ok, I found my windows server ip address using nmblookup. then I open the terminal and run : nautilus smb:// 192.168.1.xxx . it still gave me the same error. why?
[19:47] <Whiskey`Wonka> ikonia: right if using vhosts
[19:47] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: yes, and the apache default on ubuntu is to use vhosts
[19:47] <Whiskey`Wonka> mmm, the 12.04 box has no issue, odd
[19:48] <cronus> dr_willis, sorry for my ignorance, but is there a reason why smb://windowsname does not work in ubuntu?
[19:48] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: if you read the config the sites-enabled is basically vhosts
[19:49] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: I don't have an ubuntu box to hand to show you an exact example
[19:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> http://pastebin.com/9gH2fUaV
[19:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> that basicly says 'all IP's port 80, doc root var/www/'
[19:50] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonkapretty much
[19:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> which works fine, but apache did not install the default html 'it works' and cacti did not install there
[19:51] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: exactly what package did you install
[19:51] <Gaming4JC> ikonia: total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Oct 27 17:22 machine-id
[19:51] <Gaming4JC> that's the current permissions
[19:51] <Whiskey`Wonka> ikonia: /var/cache/apt/archives/cacti_0.8.7i-2ubuntu1_all.deb
[19:51] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: what apt-get command did you issue
[19:52] <Whiskey`Wonka> apt-get install cacti
[19:52] <Whiskey`Wonka> wait what the duce
[19:52] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: ?
[19:53] <Kamran> hello
[19:53] <Kamran> !!
[19:53] <Gaming4JC> hi
[19:53] <zero_coder> hi
[19:53] <Extreme> hi
[19:53] <Whiskey`Wonka> well checking it says 0.8.8a-3 in aptitude
[19:53] <Kamran> whats up???/
[19:53] <Kamran> i just got this irc
[19:53] <Whiskey`Wonka> which is why i even install 12.10 at all
[19:53] <Kamran> learning how to use it
[19:53] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: something a bit wrong there....
[19:53] <Kamran> and am quite lossed.
[19:53] <Gaming4JC> !offtopic | Kamran
[19:53] <Whiskey`Wonka> ikonia: very
[19:53] <Kamran> anybody could help? that would be great???
[19:53] <Whiskey`Wonka> ikonia: im going to purge the buggers outa mysql, apache, cacti
[19:54] <ikonia> Whiskey`Wonka: maybe worth manually cleaning the apt-cache directory
[19:54] <Gaming4JC> Kamran: /join #ubuntu-offtopic for casual chat and IRC related things :)
[19:54] <runix> Hi, what tools would you recommend for deploying Ubuntu on several machines? (I got a setup consisting of 10 similar machines in a cluster and then several other machines for different uses)? Ideally I would like to just install a bootloader and have it fetch a specific OS/setup so I could change what the machines should boot into from a server. Furthermore I am thinking of looking into Salt for managing the machines, but would really like a solution
[19:56] <Gaming4JC> runix: Clonezilla?
[19:57] <inashdeen> bump
[19:58] <runix> Gaming4JC: oh looks interesting, thanks :)
[20:00] <Whiskey`Wonka> ikonia: ok cleaned up the cache, purged and reisntalling, starting with apache
[20:01] <Whiskey`Wonka> same boat with apache
[20:02] <cronus> inashdeen, can the shares be accessed from guests?
[20:03] <dr_willis> bump then quit ;)
[20:03] <BlueWolf> Hi, does anyone know of a linux program that types up words as they are spoken. Eg - One has a microphone and speaks into it and the program types up the words instead of having to physically type them?
[20:04] <Whiskey`Wonka> oh buggers, forgot to enable vnc on that
[20:04] <cronus> dr_willis, :D
[20:04] <runix> BlueWolf: search for speech-to-text or similar
[20:05] <BlueWolf> runix: Do you know not of one?
[20:05] <Mathias> possible to adjust gamma and colors on a display?
[20:05] <runix> no, I
[20:05] <DJones> BlueWolf: I've not seen any working, maybe have a look at this page http://linuxsagas.digitaleagle.net/2012/02/25/voice-recognition-in-ubuntu/
[20:05] <runix> no, I'm not using it
[20:07] <BlueWolf> DJones: I desperately need it, is there another way to go about it?
[20:08] <DJones> BlueWolf: As I said, I don't know of any, the only suggestions I can make are to search in software centre, or keep asking here every so often to see anybody else can suggest anything
[20:09] <BlueWolf> DJones, runix: Most appreciated. Thank You for your time in helping me.....:D
[20:09] <maestrojed> I upgraded to Ubuntu12 and the optical out on my sound card won't work. I was about to downgrade but then I noticed I can use XBMC's settings panel, choose this output and it works in XBMC. Still won't work in Ubuntu (sans XBMC). the systems settings "won't let me" select optical out. Any advice before I go nuclear and downgrade?
[20:10] <Mathias> i'll ask my question again, two display setup on my laptop, on the tv the text is greenish (gnome-terminal, xbmc), but everything else is fine
[20:11] <dr_willis> ive seen tvs have all sorts of 'smart' dynamic coloring/modes/brightness for better looking movies - that really goof things up when they are used as a computer monitor Mathias
[20:12] <Whiskey`Wonka> is it possible to run a text version of vino-preferences or edit the config file via cli??
[20:12] <DJones> BlueWolf: There is a channel #ubuntu-accessibility, its not a very busy channel, but maybe somebody there can suggest something, so possibly there could be something they know designed for somebody with a disability that may work for speech recognition
[20:12] <Mathias> that's why i thought but when i connect my rpi running openelec text is fine and everything else. and _only_ text is weird (btw, the tv is on dynamic mode, just adjusts the contrast, nothing else)
[20:13] <BlueWolf> DJones: Thanks I will check it out. Another thing you could help with, I am using Ubuntu 10.04 and I am thinking of moving to 12.04, Is it better to Upgrade or do a fresh install? I have a dual boot with windows 7............
[20:14] <Mathias> i'd do a clean install
[20:15] <bingo> in thunderbird how can I keep the copy in my inbox only....no copy in server (cannot find the option)
[20:16] <stojic> bingo: Edit -> Account Settings -> Server Settings for your account -> Leave messages on server
[20:18] <bingo> stojic, I dont have that option in my thunderbird,
[20:18] <tekk> hi guys, i have a ubuntu 12.10 box (running on a mac mini). i run virtual machines on it, every now and again, when under load. the system panics and i have to reboot (it still responds to ping though). i've tried using kvm for virtualisation and virtual box... for some reason... it never happens with a freebsd guest in a virtualisation environment... only ubuntu.... I think what may be happening is that the guest VM's run out of memory and start swapping / thrashi
[20:18] <tekk> the disk. So my question is.... . how can i control the amount of swap usage / who uses it / limit it / delete it all together and the other question is... does a VM host even need swap?
[20:18] <bingo> stojic, I am using thunderbird 17.0.04
[20:19] <bingo> stojic, I dont want to keep any messages in the server, trying to do the oppsite
[20:19] <stojic> bingo: No idea then, maybe Thunderbird thinks the account doesn't support it or something
[20:19] <escott_> tekk, you cannot control swap usage in any meaningful way
[20:19] <stojic> bingo: yes, the idea was to uncheck the "Keep messages on server" setting.
[20:19] <Benxyzzy> Regarding tar for system backups, many places (including Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR) suggest tarring to one massive archive. But isn't untarring large archives hard or impossible, due to the memory requirement?
[20:20] <Benxyzzy> I've not tried, I just don't want to find out after the fact that my backups are useless!
[20:20] <escott_> Benxyzzy, i would never use tar for system backups
[20:20] <BlueWolf> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 and I am thinking of moving to 12.04, Is it better to Upgrade or do a fresh install? I have a dual boot with windows 7............
[20:21] <Mathias> BlueWolf: i'd do a clean install
[20:22] <BlueWolf> 	
[20:22] <BlueWolf> Mathias: What's wrong with an Upgrade when it is a provided facility in Ubuntu?
[20:22] <bekks> BlueWolf: Whats wrong with a fresh install when it is a provided installation method? :)
[20:22] <bingo> stojic, I think I need to change my e-mail account type to POP, I think I tried it before nad didnt work
[20:22] <auronandace> BlueWolf: simple fact is more can go wrong with upgrades compared with clean installs
[20:23] <Mathias> BlueWolf: you don't have those magical lingering problems (i.e. some weird config-file doing stupid stuff)
[20:23] <martin__> Iḿ kinda stuck here; got ubuntu GnomeRemix 12.10, after a bunch of upgrades suddenly i can't login anymore, when ubuntu starts i only see my background and no login form or anything, no mouse, nothing, when i go to runtime level 6, i can login and startx without problems,
[20:23] <anty> ciao
[20:23] <martin__> I already tried to purge, autoremove and install gnome-shell and other gnome-***
[20:23] <uvala> cronus, hi again, I'd have another question to you :)
[20:24] <stojic> bingo: Perhaps, I really don't know. I'm giving Ubuntu a spin these days so I was just setting Thunderbird up and remembered where the settings was. Normally I don't use Thunderbird.
[20:24] <Benxyzzy> escott_: so the community help file ( and places like the venerable Linux Documentation Project http://www.google.com/cse?cx=017644269519104757279%3Agm62gtzaoky&q=backup&sa=go#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=backup&gsc.page=1) are wrong?
[20:25] <escott_> Benxyzzy, no. i'm just saying its not a tool i would use for that job
[20:26] <BlueWolf> bekks: I was hoping to avoid the hassle of a full re-installation as it puts my computer out for a period of time and setting everything back is a pain.
[20:26] <BlueWolf> auronandace: The why are Upgrades featured?
[20:26] <BlueWolf> Mathias: I do have some similar problems.
[20:27] <litropy> I'm bored with my box. Ideas?
[20:27] <hanasaki> what would cause a vnc window to have the local cursor and remote cursor offset by 1-3" on the screen? and how to fix it?
[20:27] <Mathias> BlueWolf: you might want to take a full backup of your files, then you at least have them (configs and stuff is nice to have backed up, so you know how they were)
[20:29] <Mathias> litropy: play minecraft, use xbmc to watch movies/tv shows, start compiling gentoo from scratch (should keep you busy for a couple of weeks while you rip your hair out)
[20:30] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: I always upgrade. I don't believe in fresh installs.  But I always make a backup first, just in case.
[20:31] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: And how do the Upgrades go for you?
[20:31] <OerHeks> before upgrade i would make a cdr with the fresh iso, or usb, just in case.
[20:32] <uvala> I'd had a data loss earlier (it wasn't due to corrupt HDD),  and used testdisk to recover it, but some of the data hadn't been recovered. After that I'd reformatted and/or partitioned the disk a couple of times. now that I am currently running ddrescue for another corrupted drive, and it seems a powerful tool,  I thought whether ddrescue could recover the aforementioned old lost data, despite the fact of the disk being repartitioned thereafter
[20:32] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: I've never had a problem on my real installs. I've had issues during development testing (but those are generally throwaway installs)
[20:32] <uvala> could ddrescue enable a recovery on this disk?
[20:32] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: I should warn you that the upgrade tool doesn't calculate free space correctly, so if you don't have 3GB or more free, don't attempt an upgrade.
[20:33] <bekks> uvala: No. ddrescue will read whatever there is on your disk - and there is quite a lot of overwritten data.
[20:33] <litropy> Mathias, I like the xmbc idea. I actually really like it ... I have another box that I could dedicate for that. And I have an Android phone I can use for a remote. Only problem is, it doesn't have an HDMI out.
[20:34] <bekks> uvala: You're better of with testdisk, which might be able to recover the data which got overwritten.
[20:34] <BlueWolf> bekks: Thank You :D
[20:34] <BlueWolf> auronandace: Thank You :D
[20:34] <BlueWolf> Mathias: Thank You :D
[20:34] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: Your now talking about tricks that are far beyond my intellectual capabilities.
[20:34] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: Space is not my concern but the smooth running of my system as well as along side the petty windows.
[20:35] <uvala> bekks, thank you very much for your information! I'd heard of very strong tools that would recover data from two years ago, is there one such tool among free tools?
[20:35] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: check that 12.04 runs okay first (from a live CD/USB). Make a backup. Then upgrade.
[20:36] <bekks> uvala: The choice of the tools depends on the exact details of the circumstance that led to data corruption.
[20:37] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: It works, seems I will be doing a full reinstall rather than an Upgrade. I have been warned countless time that Upgrading is not the best.
[20:38] <Mathias> hmm, i might try reinstalling to 13.04 to see if the green text disappears
[20:38] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: ok. Go for it. I don't understand why people say that. But it's your choice. Note though, that if you're reinstalling anyway, you get a free shot at upgrading.
[20:38] <Mathias> or 12.04
[20:38] <bekks> Mathias: Which green text?
[20:39] <Mathias> i'll copy/paste
[20:39] <Mathias> i'll ask my question again, two display setup on my laptop, on the tv the text is greenish (gnome-terminal, xbmc),  but everything else is fine
[20:40] <fredrik__> I have a raid in my setup and the disc are shared threw samba. This only works if I log in, starts nautilus and dubbeclick on the disc in the left menu... how can I make this work better?
[20:40] <escott_> !samba | fredrik__
[20:40] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: Well said a thought I shall consider.
[20:41] <uvala> bekks, the circumstance was just inadvertent deletion of the partition. no disk failure, no other agent. since it had ext format, I'd tried extundelete, but I could never make it work with my level of knowledge, despite the fact that I applied online information available. then I used testdisk, which, likely because the disk was further interfered with via my trials, did not recover some folders/files.
[20:41] <compdoc> fredrik__, sounds liek you need to mount the raid in fstab
[20:41] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: Thank you for your time in assisting me. :D
[20:41] <fredrik__> escott, the problem is not samba. I have no trouble to make shares. The problem is that it wont work without mounting the disc
[20:41] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: no prob. good luck :)
[20:42] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: I will need it. :)
[20:42] <bekks> uvala: When the data was overwritten physically, it is lost, and there is no chance of recovering it.
[20:42] <litropy> What's a cheap video card that has an HDMI output? I'm not playing games on it, so I don't need it to be high-powered. I'm just looking for 1080p for XMBC.
[20:42] <Whiskey`Wonka> litropy: newegg.com and look, there are many
[20:42] <bekks> uvala: If it is really important data - restore it from the backup or call a professional servoce like Kroll Ontrack.
[20:42] <dr_willis> litropy:  you can get ok nvidia cards in the $30 range i recall
[20:42] <fredrik__> compdoc, seems like it.. but how? and why is the disc not mounted by ubuntu?
[20:43] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: check out some of these... might help: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds/21378/testcases/1254/results
[20:43] <dr_willis> litropy:  and i imagine most have hdmi these days
[20:43] <Vulcan[OMNI]> hey, the 'id' command says that I am in the group 'foo'. However, when I put the line ''%foo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL' in my sudoers file, I still have to type my password. Can anyone see what is wrong with this?
[20:43] <uvala> bekks, that's what I am wondering. so, if these professional services can do it, there must be some tool that can do it, isn't it?
[20:44] <escott_> uvala, if all you did was remove the partition table you just need to put it back
[20:44] <bekks> uvala: They dont only use tools, but have techniques like clean rooms, etc.
[20:44] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: Thank you, cheers.
[20:45] <Mathias> yay, the apport-loop has started again...
[20:45] <Mathias> it's so fun that it reports that itself has crashed
[20:47] <fredrik__> compdoc, why do I need to add it to fstab when its mounted to /media/xxx?
[20:48] <compdoc> fredrik__, when you add a disk, its never mounted for you. Study fstab, and create a mount directory.
[20:48] <compdoc> fredrik__, /media/xxx is there because you mounted it from the desktop
[20:48] <johntron> is this possible: I've got a machine running precise with one extra drive, and i can't boot it from cd, usb, or net. I want to install quetzal on a new drive so I can change my partition sizes and then migrate the old files to the new drive.
[20:48] <litropy> dr_willis, Whiskey`Wonka, at these prices, I may as well get a raspberry pi :)
[20:49] <Whiskey`Wonka> litropy: eh?
[20:49] <dr_willis> litropy:  i got 2 pis allready
[20:49] <fredrik__> compdoc, if I reboot and just open a terminal and do a cd /media/xx the disc is there.. but you meen that it's not "mounted" the right way anyway?
[20:50] <johntron> dr_willis: tried raspbmc?
[20:50] <compdoc> fredrik__, yeah, ubuntu is remembering you mouted it. unmount it before using fstab
[20:50] <johntron> i recently migrated my LAMP server to nginx on a pi
[20:50] <litropy> dr_willis, do you run XMBC on any of the two?
[20:50] <uvala> bekks, ok, I see. back then I didnt hope much more after testdisk recovery, so I did more than just removing the partition. I created new partitions, saved data on them, and then later deleted them and reformatted disk.
[20:51] <Mathias> wonderful, my sd card-reader won't work
[20:51] <uvala> bekks, so now it is like the third flush of the disk since then.
[20:52] <johntron> litropy: have you tried raspbmc?
[20:52] <dr_willis> litropy:  yes.
[20:52] <johntron> how was it?
[20:53] <dr_willis> raspbmc and the xbmc stuff work decently well.
[20:53] <dr_willis> given the limitations of the pi
[20:53] <johntron> still kinda slow though
[20:53] <johntron> ?
[20:53] <litropy> johntron, I might, one I get a pi :)
[20:54] <openelec> what does a flashdrive come formatted as because i installed ubuntu on my flashdrive and i want to make it a normal flash drive again
[20:54] <litropy> dr_willis, It does okay? what's the lag like?
[20:54] <johntron> litropy: ah, ic. I was just wondering if it's worth it
[20:54] <dr_willis> litropy:  dident notice any.. but all i play is anime. ;) and cartoons
[20:54] <Martinjo84> openelec: normal windows formats
[20:54] <tgm4883> openelec, normally, fat32
[20:54] <The0ne> exit
[20:54] <litropy> dr_willis, nice thx
[20:54] <openelec> how do i reformat it in ubuntu
[20:55] <dr_willis> openelec:  use gparted is one way
[20:55] <tgm4883> openelec, you can do it in disk utility
[20:55] <openelec> how do i open disk utility from terminal
[20:55] <Martinjo84> openelec: ntfs is best, if you need the filesize more then 4gb
[20:55] <tgm4883> dist utility is installed by default. gparted isn't. Either would work
[20:56] <bingo> stojic, Its because yahoo doesnt work with pop anymore only yahoo plus (after payment) does, outlook does work with pop and now the option is showing
[20:57] <litropy> Welp, XMBC is out until I get HDMI. Any other ideas for my extra box, peeps? I'm just bored with it.
[20:57] <openelec> is exFat the same thing
[20:57] <openelec> tgm4883,
[20:57] <tgm4883> openelec, no
[20:57] <tgm4883> openelec, similar though.
[20:58] <openelec> which one should i use
[20:58] <stojic> bingo: I see.
[20:58] <tgm4883> openelec, exfat is used when ntfs isn't feasible to use but you need larger than 4GB filesizes
[20:58] <tgm4883> openelec, mostly used in digital cameras and such
[20:58] <tgm4883> openelec, well what do you want to use the flash drive for?
[20:58] <openelec> transfer files
[20:58] <tgm4883> openelec, to/from what?
[20:59] <openelec> linux mac and windows
[20:59] <tgm4883> openelec, how large files?
[21:00] <fredrik__> compdoc, thanks...
[21:00] <root__> ciaoo
[21:00] <shomid> Hey, anyone here using openbox?
[21:00] <openelec> dr_willis,  can i use the gparted without live disk
[21:00] <root__> hi!!
[21:00] <root__> c'è qualcuno italiano ???
[21:01] <tgm4883> !it | root__
[21:01] <root__> thanks
[21:02] <uvala> free software is true enabling of humans! today I discovered new software on ubuntu, and felt this again and again. all their developers out there, heartily thanks for all your efforts in the way of a better humanity!
[21:02] <openelec> dr_willis,  can i use the gparted without live disk
[21:02] <inashdeen> hi there, I have a prob. I am running ubuntu 12.04. my friend is running windows 7. he has a shared folder. I can't access it from my ubuntu. another friend using windows 7 can access them.i run smbtree, I can see n access another shared folder from another computer, probabily running XP. what is the prob here?
[21:03] <dr_willis> openelec:  if you are changeing a flash drive.. you just use gparted from whatever you boot fro,m,
[21:04] <dr_willis> shomid:  a lot of people use openbox
[21:05] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  so you fire up nautilus and hit ctrl-l and enter the path to the share similer to... smb://the.server.ip.address/sharename and what happens ?
[21:06] <dr_willis> windows shares can just be weird.. with win7+ and the windows homegroups it seems to be even flakier at times
[21:07] <inashdeen> dr_willis: the same . Failed to retrieve share list from server
[21:07] <ethana3> I've got an i7-3770 system and I'm trying to test my RAM with the memtest86+ included with Ubuntu 13.04 daily x64.. it fails with the same error on the last bit of every byte from the first one and my system is rock-solid.. anyone know where I can get a memory tester that actually works?
[21:07] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  sounds like the server is somehow blockng that pc.
[21:07] <dr_willis> or ignoreingit.
[21:08] <ethana3> I tried to go straight to the memtest86+ site and get an image but the USB disk creator wouldn't work on it
[21:08] <inashdeen> dr_willis : so how do I overcome it
[21:08] <bekks> ethana3: that is the memory tester that actually works. All you can do now is getting a hardware memory tester which is quiote expensive.
[21:08] <inashdeen> I mean, when I run my windows, on this same PC, I can access COMPAQ-PC flwlessly
[21:08] <dr_willis> thres some alternative samba browser tools in the repos.. not sure if smb3k is still around.. i used to use it all the time ages ago.
[21:08] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  you could try just mounting the shares by hand
[21:08] <inashdeen> dr_willis: how?
[21:08] <dr_willis> !samba
[21:08] <escott_> ethana3, you ram is bad. just because it hasn't crashed the machine doesn't mean its not bad
[21:09] <ethana3> Every byte? with the same exact type of error on each one?
[21:09] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  with the mount command and the cifs filesystem option
[21:09] <dr_willis> !windows
[21:09] <openelec> dr_willis,  how do i send u screen shot of error
[21:09] <escott_> ethana3, memtest86 is a very very simple program. write a pattern read a pattern, check if it matches
[21:09] <inashdeen> dr_willis : I am quite noob. a lil bit explanation and thank you very much
[21:09] <dr_willis> openelec:  Huh?  you repartion the flash drive and reformat it..
[21:10] <ethana3> escott_: I've had it fail on me before, due to a bug.. the whole test #7 thing
[21:10] <openelec> dr_willis,  from gprated
[21:10] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  theres guides out there on mounting windows shaeres. ive not done it in ages.
[21:10] <dr_willis> bbl
[21:12] <openelec> I have 3 partions in the flash driveunknown unallocated and hfs+how do i clear this and make it useable again
[21:12] <escott_> ethana3, if your problem is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bug/1071209 then discard the false positive
[21:13] <tekk> ok i lost my question in the abyss...
[21:13] <tekk> disabling swap. bad idea?
[21:13] <ethana3> escott_: that's what it was with my C2D, and I found that bug and clicked "this affects me"
[21:13] <phunyguy> tekk, if you have enough physical RAM, then it won't hurt,
[21:13] <ethana3> escott_: this time it's all the tests, from the instant it starts, and the pattern is always the same until the last character, then it's always consistent, but different
[21:13] <tekk> if i don't... what will happen? pom?
[21:13] <tekk> oom
[21:13] <tekk> stupid auto correct hah
[21:13] <openelec> dr_willis, I have 3 partions in the flash driveunknown unallocated and hfs+how do i clear this and make it useable again
[21:14] <tekk> i'd rather the machine or guest dies than the hdd starts thrashing
[21:14] <Neptu> hej, I want to use emacs in a console inside a window and I get anoyed because left alt triggers some shortcut. I modified the launch to hud shortcut in the configuration but still is not working...
[21:14] <ethana3> has anyone run memtest86+ on a 3770 and had it pass?
[21:14] <phunyguy> tekk is swap space causing you issues?
[21:14] <tekk> kind of
[21:14] <tekk> so
[21:14] <tekk> i have a VM host running ubuntu 12.10
[21:14] <tekk> I have a guest with 10gb RAM allocated... if the guest needs more memory.. it starts swapping...
[21:15] <tekk> and for some reason this kills the host after a while
[21:15] <escott_> ethana3, im not sure what you want us to say. you seem to have the full diagnosis in front of you
[21:15] <tekk> even though the guest and host, are on different physical drives
[21:15] <phunyguy> 10gb??
[21:15] <tekk> machine has 32gb RAM total
[21:15] <tekk> after all guests have RAM allocated, there is 2.5GB free for host... (more than enough imho)
[21:16] <phunyguy> does the guest need 10 gigs?
[21:16] <tekk> yes
[21:16] <phunyguy> oh wait its more than one
[21:16] <tekk> from time to time
[21:16] <tekk> yeah, about 5 guests
[21:16] <tekk> but only this 1 guest is causing the host to fuck up
[21:16] <tekk> and i've tried kvm and virtualbox
[21:16] <tekk> same issue
[21:16] <phunyguy> !language | tekk
[21:17] <tekk> doesn't happen if i use FreeBSD for the guest... as it behaves differently
[21:17] <tekk> but happens if i use debian/ubuntu for guest
[21:17] <openelec> !language | tekk
[21:17] <tekk> (ubuntu host)
[21:17] <openelec> !language|tekk
[21:17] <ethana3> i'm going to try to download a version of memtest that supports my cpu (5, still in alpha).. but I think I tried that already and couldn't get it to boot from my flash drive
[21:17] <tekk> any ideas (so far i'm willing to try disabling swap on the HOST)
[21:18] <escott_> tekk, disabling swap on the host is just going to cause you to oom
[21:18] <holstein> tekk: i have used systems without swap before
[21:18] <tekk> if the host oom's though it will kill some stuff rather than panicing right
[21:18] <tekk> ?
[21:18] <escott_> tekk, thats the idea
[21:19] <tekk> perhaps i should try disabling swap on the guest first
[21:19] <tekk> swapoff -a should do it
[21:19] <tekk> i've turned off nested-paging now also
[21:19] <escott_> tekk, there are also some special drivers for ubuntu guest on ubuntu host. things like balloon drivers and page sharing. you might check if those are enabled
[21:19] <tekk> good point
[21:20] <tekk> if enabled... perhaps thats whats causing the issue
[21:20] <tekk> as FreeBSD is the only guest that has no issues... I use that guest in "generic" mode though... no host support
[21:20] <CamelKing96> hi! I'm a Xubuntu user with 512Mb of ram. Sombody know how to optimize it? (I've just OC the CPU from 1.8 to 2.25Ghz)
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> what's OC ?
[21:21] <CamelKing96> Overclock
[21:22] <tekk> CamelKing96, if running any daemons, you can tune them for higher CPU or memory usage
[21:22] <tekk> i.e. mysql / mail etc
[21:22] <holstein> CamelKing96: i wouldnt do anything. i would just use the system and see how you like it "as-is"... for me, the hard drive is usually a bottle neck
[21:22] <Mathias> CamelKing96: old system?
[21:23] <CamelKing96> i've heard about Zram, somebody know it?
[21:23] <CamelKing96> not very old system: economic system :D
[21:28] <ethana3> well, no checksums were provided for these alpha memtest .iso's, but the USB startup disk creator says they "don't match".. I'm going to try to boot off of it anyways
[21:30] <tekk> right, swap off done... will let you know how it goes :)
[21:30] <Gigy> ciao
[21:31] <bastidrazor> i am out :(
[21:31] <Gigy> scusate come si andava nella stanza dove si parla italiano?
[21:32] <Gigy> chi parla italiano?
[21:32] <stojic> Gigy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ItalianTeam
[21:32] <shomon> qua
[21:33] <shomon> peró c'é una chat dedicata a italiani
[21:33] <Gigy> ok grazie
[21:35] <dd444> how do i set up a vpn?
[21:35] <holstein> !vpn
[21:35] <Martinjo84> dd444: openvpn
[21:37] <dd444> seem to b having probs with it on win8
[21:38] <brum_> which is the recommended way of installing skype on ubuntu? it seems the two alternatives are using the statically built package from skype.com or using the one from the ubuntu partner repository
[21:39] <aurohurd> !skype | brum_
[21:41] <brum_> aurohurd: the wiki doesn't really give any pros/cons for using the static vs dynamic build
[21:41] <aurohurd> brum_: sorry, i only know of the link, i don't use skype
[21:41] <brum_> okay
[21:42] <ethana3> Is there a way to just "dd" an .iso file to a 4GB flash drive and have it work?
[21:42] <aurohurd> ethana3: it works with 11.10 and above
[21:42] <escott_> ethana3, depends on your bios
[21:42] <escott_> ethana3, and how the iso is designed
[21:43] <ethana3> it's the beta 6 from this page http://forum.canardpc.com/threads/68001-NEW-%21%21-Memtest86-5.00-Beta-6-available-%21-Need-betatesters-%21 and my bios/eufi is the latest one for this ASRock (B77?) mainboard
[21:44] <ethana3> would the way to attempt that be to just "dd if=/path/path/file.iso of=/dev/sdb"
[21:44] <ethana3> or would I need to write it all 0's or 1's to it first somehow?
[21:45] <aurohurd> ethana3: yes, but you need to check with them weather the iso is designed for that
[21:45] <exarkun> after the last reboot of my dell inspiron 1545, glx is no longer available and unity is forced into 2d mode.  I have no clue what changed to cause this (I'm sure some packages got upgraded since the last reboot, I have no idea what, I just let package manager do its thing; I didn't do anything obvious like uninstall libmesa).  How do I fix it?
[21:45] <aurohurd> ethana3: no, dd would simply overwrite whatever was there
[21:46] <ethana3> aurohurd: is there a way to check whether the .iso is designed for it? also, I know dd would overwrite, but the remainder of the space on the flash drive could be anything and it wouldn't matter then, right?
[21:46] <exarkun> Xorg.log says "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)".  Which seems bogus, since there is not an nvidia video card in this laptop.
[21:47] <aurohurd> ethana3: yeah, it wouldn't matter then because all that would be seen is what was dd-ed
[21:47] <ethana3> aurohurd: I'm going to give this a shot
[21:47] <useless-eater> can anyone point me to a netinstall.img that I can dd to a usb stick for installing ubuntu-server? cannot find it on webpage
[21:47] <aurohurd> ethana3: you'd have to ask them if they have a hybrid iso that allows to simply dd it
[21:48] <aurohurd> !mini | useless-eater
[21:49] <useless-eater> aurohurd: I dont have cd.  This way I can use a usb stick?
[21:49] <ethana3> aurohurd: i just dd'ed it over, if this doesn't work, i'll sign up on their forums and ask for a hybrid .iso
[21:49]  * ethana3 reboots
[21:49] <aurohurd> useless-eater: yes, the iso can be dd-ed to a usb stick (11.10 upwards are hybrid isos)
[21:50] <useless-eater> aurohurd: oh, thats good.
[21:53] <DX099> useless-eater, be carefull to dd to the full /dev/sdx and not some /dev/sdxN partition.
[21:55] <useless-eater> DX099: dont worry, been using linux for years :)
[21:55] <useless-eater> DX099: just not ubuntu
[21:55] <Beatstreet> what's the program that repalced fdisk?
[21:55] <k1l> Beatstreet: gdisk?
[21:56] <DX099> useless-eater, I did that mistake myself, but good then :)
[21:57] <useless-eater> k1l: check out parted maybe?
[21:58] <Kardos> how do i make a bootable ubuntu usb, from fedora? the web manual has instructions for doing it from ubuntu using "usb-creator-kde".... which appears to be not in fedora's repos
[21:58] <k1l> Kardos: use unetbootin
[21:58] <k1l> Kardos: or "dd" the iso to a usbstick
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> Kardos  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[22:01] <Kardos> ahhh dd will do it eh?
[22:01] <Kardos> okay thanks :D
[22:07] <Beatstreet> can someone think of a reason that fdisk/sfdisk shows nothing?
[22:08] <holstein> Beatstreet: permissions
[22:08] <useless-eater> lol,  able to choose norwegian dvorak during install.  not bad not bad
[22:08] <aurohurd> Beatstreet: is it gpt?
[22:08] <Beatstreet> holstein - im root
[22:08] <useless-eater> Beatstreet: gpt dont work well with fdisk
[22:08] <Beatstreet> how do I list partitions with gpt?
[22:09] <escott_> Beatstreet, parted
[22:10] <Beatstreet> parted or gparted?
[22:10] <Seppoz> hello, i have 2 ports which i wanna build a switch upon
[22:10] <escott_> Beatstreet, they both use libparted
[22:10] <Seppoz> so i called brctl addbr br0 brctl addif br0 eth0 and brctl addif br0 eth1
[22:10] <Seppoz> should that be enough for a transparent bridge?
[22:11] <Beatstreet> so if OS was isntalled using parted then I wont e able to see with fdisk?
[22:12] <escott_> Beatstreet, just dont use fdisk. its old unmaintained software. this really isnt that hard
[22:12] <holstein> Beatstreet: what im reading is, GPT doesnt work well with fdisk.. its the type that is the issue, as i read it
[22:12] <Jpmh> I have a working system 10.4, works fine but it is clearly time to upgrade.  I have a "remastersys" made ISO which works GREAT on other systems.  Sadly this system has no working CD nor usb.  I can sftp in and out.  Is ther any way  I can take that iso and boot from it after installing it on that machine
[22:12] <k1l> Beatstreet: for gpt use gdisk
[22:12] <Beatstreet> escott - I'm just trying to list the partitions on a new OS install
[22:12] <escott_> holstein, GPT doesn't work with fdisk PERIOD. fdisk is junk forget about it
[22:13] <holstein> Beatstreet: ^^
[22:13] <escott_> Beatstreet, and you've been told to use parted. what is the problem? sudo parted -l
[22:13] <holstein> escott_: thanks
[22:13] <brightspark> gdisk is the GPT equivalent to fdisk
[22:13] <Beatstreet> logged in as root, parter -l list nothing as well
[22:14] <Beatstreet> logged in as root, parted -l list nothing as well
[22:14] <escott_> gdisk is a bit more than just "fdisk for gpt" for most cases parted is a better choice than gdisk
[22:14] <Beatstreet> why would both fdisk -l and parted -l show nothing, while logged in as root
[22:14] <escott_> Beatstreet, parted should show the disk and indicate it has no table
[22:15] <Beatstreet> parted -l is blank
[22:15] <escott_> Beatstreet, what about cat /proc/partitions
[22:16] <escott_> Beatstreet, instead of having parted scan all devices you can scan a particular device as well "sudo parted -l /dev/sda"
[22:17] <Beatstreet> cat /proc/mdstat shows partitions but "sudo parted -l /dev/sda" shows nothing
[22:18] <escott_> Beatstreet, what kind of md device? and why would you have a table on an md device?
[22:18] <Beatstreet> no RAIDs
[22:18] <jimi_> my xorg fails to start after upgrading. I can choose an older kernel and it works. I can't really see the error messages because it split my monitor into 4 tiny boxes
[22:18] <aurohurd> Beatstreet: do you have harddisks or are you dealing with sdcards?
[22:19] <Beatstreet> 2x2TB HDDs
[22:20] <escott_> Beatstreet, why are you looking at mdstat? what possible relationship does that have to partition tables?
[22:22] <Beatstreet> sorry, you said md device and I thought you meant raid
[22:23] <l_r> when will ubuntu 13.04 be out
[22:23] <l_r> second question: what is the version of boost lib now?
[22:23] <l_r> (in ubuntu 13.04beta)
[22:23] <escott_> !info libboost
[22:24] <iceroot> l_r: #ubuntu+1
[22:24] <escott_> !info libboost-all-dev
[22:24] <l_r> 1.49?????
[22:24] <escott_> !info libboost-all-dev quantal
[22:24] <l_r> come on
[22:24] <l_r> there's 1.53
[22:24] <l_r> pls upgrade
[22:24] <myersg> how do I fix this?
[22:24] <escott_> l_r, thanks! I'll hop right on that
[22:25] <myersg> Could not nd required OpenGL entry point 'glGetEooro'! Either your vido card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated.
[22:25] <l_r> escott, no prob
[22:25] <Beatstreet> escott_ - logged in a root, fdisk -l shows nothing, parted -l shows nothing, parted -l /dev/sda shows nothing but cat /proc/partitions show 4 partitions per disk (2 drives so 8 partitions)
[22:25] <l_r> escott, will you do the job?
[22:25] <sam101> hello guys i would like to know how do i install ruby on ubunty
[22:25] <sam101> on terminal
[22:29] <escott_> Beatstreet, the kernel may not have been appraised of a change in partition tables. a partprobe should get /proc/partitions in sync with sudo parted -l and cause your md devices to crash
[22:30] <anathem> sam101: sudo apt-get install ruby
[22:30] <Beatstreet> ok escott_ - running partprobe
[22:32] <escott_> l_r, this is a volunteer run support channel. most people in channel (including myself) have no connection with canonical (or debian) so no i won't do anything about it, because this is not the right forum for your complaints
[22:33] <sam101> anathem: thanks
[22:35] <escott_> myersg, have you tried installing proprietary graphics drivers?
[22:36] <oscailt> Does anyone know if the Realtek "RTL8723AE-BT", wireless driver is working in Ubuntu 13.04
[22:38] <Beatstreet> escott_ - partprobe did nothing
[22:39] <escott_> Beatstreet, can you paste the output of "mount; cat /proc/partitions; parted -l; dmesg | tail -n 100" to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:40] <Beatstreet> ok
[22:40] <escott_> Beatstreet, can you paste the output of "partprobe; mount; cat /proc/partitions; parted -l; dmesg | tail -n 100" to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:43] <FolhaSeca> does anyone know if there is a file i can edit in order to manipulate tcp ports, rather than using commands? I've been trying to open some tcp ports, unsuccessfully. We have three interfaces in that box, with snort/barnyard set up, bu we don't seem to be getting connectivity between the inside network and our DMZ, eventhough our DMZ hits the cloud. We think it might be a port issue. We have been trying to set up splunk
[22:44] <MartynKeigher> hey so installed wordpress on a ubuntu serevr (@ 192.168.10.165). its located in /var/www/mkeigher, so to get to my site i have to go to 192.168.10.165/mkeigher. but how can i get to it by just going straight to 192.168.10.165 ??  thanks
[22:44] <Whiskey`Wonka> MartynKeigher: you need to move the site up a level
[22:45] <Whiskey`Wonka> or do a redirect
[22:45] <MartynKeigher> i prefer the redirect, coz i eventuallyw ant to have a few sites out of the /var/www/ folder. how do i do a redirect?
[22:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> google html page redirect
[22:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> but in this case just use vhosts
[22:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> make it mkeigher.local
[22:47] <MartynKeigher> make the folder /var/www/mkeigher.local ??
[22:48] <escott_> FolhaSeca, you should be modifying the rules files, not doing it by iptables commands
[22:48] <D49L> sdf
[22:48] <escott_> FolhaSeca, the commands are just for the initial setup, then you need to export the rules and save them to /etc/something (for instance /etc/ufw/rules.d if you are  using ufw)
[22:49] <Whiskey`Wonka> MartynKeigher: no, make a vhost called that, then also add that to your hosts file or your dns
[22:49] <Beatstreet> escott_ > http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644809/
[22:49] <MartynKeigher> yeah my apache is not great! ;) didnt know what you meant. i will look into it! thanks!
[22:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[22:50] <trueneu_> Hi guys. Is there any way I can find out which processes are attached to a given shared memory segment on Ubuntu?
[22:50] <MartynKeigher> thank you! :)
[22:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> no problem
[22:50] <FolhaSeca> escott_: thank you so much, I will look into that. We have snort set up to bridge two of the interfaces, it's been "working" since the dmz hits the cloud, but we can't get our dmz to hit the inside, which is where the splunk server is
[22:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> Ok im going nuts, remote desktop access doesnt work if i do not have a user logged in??
[22:51] <MartynKeigher> nice guide there! could have done with this about 5 hours ago! ;)
[22:52] <MartynKeigher> Thanks wonka!
[22:52] <Whiskey`Wonka> MartynKeigher: no problem
[22:52] <escott_> Beatstreet, the kernel will (presumably) refuse to update a table if it removes an active device. you would have to umount sda2 and sda4 before partprobe will do anything
[22:52] <escott_> sdb2 and sda4 rather
[22:52] <Beatstreet> ok
[22:52] <Beatstreet> trying that
[22:53] <escott_> Beatstreet, you also aren't properly booted which suggests that something went wrong during the boot
[22:53] <Beatstreet> how's that?
[22:53] <escott_> Beatstreet, you dont have a root device mounted
[22:56] <Beatstreet> escott_ > http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644819/
[22:57] <escott_> Beatstreet, yes. as i said you dont have your root device mounted. rootfs is the initial root filesystem image included in the initrd
[22:57] <Beatstreet> thinking a OS relaod is needed
[22:57] <douglasPonciano> Hello!
[22:57] <k1l> Beatstreet: what is this hardware?
[22:58] <douglasPonciano> Please, how can we install some Nintendo 64 emulator?
[22:58] <escott_> Beatstreet, i dont think you realize how deep a hole you are in at the moment
[22:58] <douglasPonciano> I can't find anyone on Ubuntu Software Center...
[22:58] <escott_> Beatstreet, by all appearances your hard disks are failing and your partition table has been damaged. your root filesystem is for some reason unmountable
[22:59] <escott_> Beatstreet, you need to boot your install media and see if you can recover from there
[22:59] <Beatstreet> escott_ - reloading OS
[22:59] <Beatstreet> see how it goes
[22:59] <Beatstreet> thanks
[22:59] <douglasPonciano> Would someone help me?
[23:01] <KI4RO> .
[23:02] <NeedBasicHelpWit> i am trying to setup a raid beside my windows partition. Basically, i have a 120 and a 160 gb harddrive on this laptop, with my windows installation on a 40 gigabyte partition on the 160, thus leaving two 120 gigabyte disks available for striping.
[23:02] <one> I can't play N64 on Ubuntu. :/
[23:02] <NeedBasicHelpWit> is this possible?
[23:02] <NeedBasicHelpWit> one: mupen64?
[23:03] <one> NeedBasicHelpWit, It could be... Do you know how to install it?
[23:03] <escott_> NeedBasicHelpWit, yes
[23:03] <NeedBasicHelpWit> one: have you used it before?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !info mupen64plus | NeedBasicHelpWit
[23:04] <NeedBasicHelpWit> escott_: Is it a matter of partitioning the drives first, setting up a raid, and then partitioning them again?
[23:04] <one> Long time ago... I just installed it from the Ubuntu Software Center I guess.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> NeedBasicHelpWit: try searching a little, instead of immediately asking for clarification
[23:04] <one> NeedBasicHelpWit, But now I can't get it running... Would you help me please?
[23:05] <NeedBasicHelpWit> one: I havnt dabbled with it recently. A good place to look might be tasvideos.org
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> one ^
[23:05] <escott_> NeedBasicHelpWit, partition. then create raid. i would not personally partition an md device. you might use LVM on top of mdadm if thats your desire
[23:05] <one> I'm taking a look, thanks. :)
[23:06] <escott_> NeedBasicHelpWit, and keep in mind that /boot needs to be outside the array
[23:06] <NeedBasicHelpWit> one: unfortunately, emulation is far from perfect. I have yet to see an n64 game play rogue squadron.
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> NeedBasicHelpWit: I played majoras mask in muppen64, runs well :)
[23:06] <jaya_> Hello
[23:06] <jaya_> Anyone can help ?
[23:06] <escott_> NeedBasicHelpWit, (unless its pure RAID1 in which case grub can boot a raid1 member as a raw device and initrd bring the other device online into the mirror
[23:06] <jaya_> Unable to open gedit
[23:07] <k1l_> !details | jaya_
[23:07] <jaya_> in terminal
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> NeedBasicHelpWit: the Silent Hill you can buy for the PC is just Bleem with an ISO of the PS1 game which made me chuckle
[23:07] <useless-eater> jaya_: aptitude install vim ;)
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jaya_: run:    gedit      what is output
[23:07] <NeedBasicHelpWit> escott_: interesting; so boot loader can be on a raid 1?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> useless-eater: aptitude isn't installed by default
[23:07] <jaya_> (gedit:1815): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported
[23:07] <jaya_> **
[23:07] <jaya_> GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.0/gio/gdbusconnection.c:2270:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
[23:07] <jaya_> Aborted
[23:08] <jaya_> this is what i get when i try to use gedit
[23:08] <one> NeedBasicHelpWit, Pity... But games I like will run fine I guess... I just hope I get it installed. Thanks for this page. :)
[23:08] <useless-eater> NeedBasicHelpWit: boot can be on raid1
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> jaya_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue