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xubuntu825is there a setting, that makes me turn on wireless card?00:00
well_laid_lawnxubuntu825:  you probably don't have a module loaded for the wifi card - seen the wifi docs?00:03
well_laid_lawn!wifi00:03
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:03
well_laid_lawnCrazyArseMutt:  my middle name is Lawnton00:03
xubuntu825ok thanks. sudo lshw -C network does not give me (un)claimed dis or enabled00:06
xubuntu825maybe i should check bios?00:06
xubuntu825well laid lawn, i check the documents but theres no info there. how do i find a module for the card00:11
xubuntu825iwconfig gives me: no wireless extensions etho no wireless extensions. bios?00:12
well_laid_lawnlspci should show the card00:15
a27x64sydoes "lspci | grep Network" list your wireless adapter?00:17
xubuntu825you are right. it shows Ali corp..... air link00:17
xubuntu825lspci | grep network or Network do not show anything00:19
xubuntu825mm, ok could it be a bug, a mising driver, or should i go into bios?00:20
well_laid_lawnI'd get the full name for it and have a google to see how well it is supported00:22
xubuntu825it worked previously. i change the bios settings and my mouse started working. but ill google it00:23
well_laid_lawnmaybe check the bios and see if it is enabled then00:24
well_laid_lawnif you dualboot with windows sometimes the wifi gets shut off when you quit windows afaik00:25
xubuntu825thanks let me do that first00:26
xubuntu825where would a wireless card be located? im in advance: internal devices, pci, cpu, usb?00:30
well_laid_lawnbioses can vary - I'd guess pci00:35
xubuntu825no luck bios did not fix it. what would you do next?00:46
xubuntu825i would like to have wireless, cause trackpad does not work either, but i will i figure that later00:47
well_laid_lawnlike I suggested - get the full device name from lspci and see if it is supported - pastebin lspci output xubuntu82500:51
xubuntu825ok i will one sec00:55
xubuntu825pastebin.com/RFvFaNA401:04
xubuntu825pastebin.com/FRvFANA4 sorry01:05
well_laid_lawnthere's no wifi card listed there - I thought you said it showed in lspci ?01:06
well_laid_lawnsecond link fails01:07
ner0xAnyway to get the files off one.ubuntu.com without having to install the entire app?01:14
Cheri703ner0x: go to the site, log in, download?01:21
ner0xCheri703: They do it one by one...01:22
xubuntu825mm let me check well laid lawn01:22
xubuntu825mm i gues you are correct i thought ALi corporation might be Airlink01:26
xubuntu825gues your right01:27
xubuntu825i dont know where to turn now01:28
Cheri703ner0x: you didn't specify that you wanted it in one lump. why don't you want the app? That'd be the easiest way01:31
ner0xCheri703: I can but just didn't want to go through the install.01:31
Cheri703ok01:31
xubuntu341hi there, new to xubuntu and xfce in general. just had a quick question.01:35
xubuntu341the default, xscreensaver lock screen is hideous. is there anyway to have lightdm handle the lock screen?01:36
xubuntu341i've looked around, and the best solution i've found is the gnome-screensaver lock screen, but there is no way (that I could find at least) to configure it01:37
donnieSo I'm trying to learn about Swap. I read that I can use a thumb drive as temp swap space for certain projects that use more 'ram' and will greatly increase the performance over all... True or false? I have a 16gb flashdrive. I don't mind formatting for swap for certain things and performance boost01:55
donnieOoh. What if I used an old 30gb as a swap drive... would that do anything? :D02:02
GridCubenot really02:03
len-1304Swap is slow. It will not improve performance for the most part.02:03
len-1304Swap will keep the OS from tossing out some app at random in an OOM situation02:03
GridCubeunless you do like a gazillion transactions on a huge server that needs lots of memory for some reason02:03
len-1304An old 30G drive is likely to be slower than a newer larger drive02:04
len-1304You will notice that Ubuntu tries to put the swap at the outside of the disk, not the center.02:04
len-1304That is because the highest transfer rate is on the outside half of the drive.02:05
len-1304A compressed ram drive will speed up things some what compared to drive swap (not enough for audio :) )02:07
CrazyArseMuttis the i386 the 32bit download?02:08
len-1304But it will also be like getting a bit more ram and when you hit the ram wall things will not quite stop dead as they do when the app you are using hit swap.02:08
len-1304CrazyArseMutt, yes i386 is 32bit02:08
CrazyArseMuttthanks02:08
ner0xCheri703: ca-certs were broken. That's why it wouldn't work. lol02:19
xubuntu825anybody with old bus cards experience? xubuntu doenst detect mine02:59
xubuntu624hello i downloaded drive (.zip) extension for a non operative bus card. how do i extract the file?03:55
xubuntu624where to03:55
holsteindepends really.. i would just extract it and see if there is a readme03:56
xubuntu624holstein hey, is yellowmans. you helped me before. non working mouse03:58
holsteinxubuntu624: cheers03:59
xubuntu624well trackpad still doesnt work, but got wireless usb mouse working, cheers03:59
xubuntu624ive been researching about the wireless card that is not working either, and came accross an article that said to download a drvier from realtek04:00
holsteinxubuntu624: i would put in the card.. run lspci, see what the id is, and just search the forums04:00
xubuntu624ive been doing that, nothing, it doesnt even detect it. no lights no blinking, nothing.04:01
xubuntu624ive been trying for a few hours. lspci shows a cardbus bridge but not the card i have04:03
holsteinxubuntu624: does that card work in any other machine? does any card work in that machine?04:04
xubuntu624it did worked before, with 11.10. im not sure that it worked before i think it did worked with 12.0404:05
xubuntu624but i plug the machine with wire for the updates, and has not worked since04:05
holsteinxubuntu624: i would load up the live CD that it worked with and test it04:05
holsteinxubuntu624: you can boot the older kernel and check then04:05
holsteinif you feel a kernel upgrade "broke" it04:06
xubuntu624would i choose "fix a broken system" from the live disk?04:06
holsteini would boot the live desktop04:07
xubuntu624i think the xbuntu 12.04 has only install, fix a broken system, load from hard disk, options04:09
holsteinxubuntu624: nope.. you can "try without installing"04:09
holsteinxubuntu624: make sure you are booting the live CD04:10
holsteinor, boot an older kernel04:10
xubuntu624mm. i had another disk that had the try w/o installing but this one doesnt, unless is hidden somewhere04:11
holsteinxubuntu624: they all do.. you see an "install" option? otherwise, im pretty certain, you are *not* booting the CD04:12
holsteinxubuntu624: http://mengweilu.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/04_xubuntu.jpg04:13
holsteinsomething like that ^^04:13
xubuntu624the one i have is not like that04:18
xubuntu624is like this http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?59617-Cant-install-just-sits-on-splash-screen04:19
xubuntu624instead of start it says install04:19
holsteinxubuntu624: i would check the iso.. i would try nomodeset.. i would try tapping shift at boot and see if you see other options04:20
holsteinxubuntu624: thats not the live CD..04:20
xubuntu624ok i will do that04:20
xubuntu624...ok.04:20
xubuntu624it is..04:21
holsteinxubuntu624: if it is, then boot it live.. otherwise, you'll need to download a live CD, or just try booting the older kernel04:22
xubuntu624ok i will try that. i thank you04:22
SuperLagAnyone have trouble getting XFCE to respect the "default browser" settings? I've set it as google-chrome, but when I log back in, it's saying no default is set.04:42
Cheri703SuperLag: mine did that for a while, then it stopped. I have no idea what changed.04:47
well_laid_lawnare you saving the session?04:47
Cheri703do you have chromium installed too?04:47
Cheri703mine was weird when I had chrome and chromium. not sure that uninstalling fixed it, just that I know it was being weird with it.04:48
SuperLagwell_laid_lawn: saving the session?04:56
SuperLagCheri703: I have the stable Chrome installed. No Chromium.04:56
well_laid_lawnyes saving the session - in the sessions and startup part of the system settings04:57
SuperLagwell_laid_lawn: I wasn't, no. But I just did, and rebooted... and Chrome is open.04:58
well_laid_lawndoes thast mean your issue is solved?04:59
well_laid_lawns/ast/at/04:59
SuperLaggood question05:07
well_laid_lawnheh05:07
SuperLaghaha05:08
SuperLagwell... I just tried a logout / login cycle... and xfce4-session crashed05:08
SuperLagnice05:09
SuperLagI am using a beta version of Xubuntu, after all... so I guess I'm asking for it.05:09
well_laid_lawnyou play with fire you'll get burnt05:09
SuperLagand no, I'm guessing the problem is *not* solved05:10
SuperLagbecause... I'm sending the crash report on, and instead of opening Chrome, I'm getting the dialog asking me to choose the preferred web browser05:10
SuperLaghowever, the problem seems masked to some degree... because the "remembered session" is opening Chrome05:11
well_laid_lawntried running xdg-preferred-applications from the terminal ?05:11
well_laid_lawnI think that's it's name05:11
well_laid_lawnxdg<tab><tab>05:12
SuperLagnope, that's not one of the options05:13
well_laid_lawnok05:13
_genuser_hello people. is there not a netbook edition of xubuntu or some other edition that will take less than 4G of space to install?07:07
_genuser_trying to install it as fullblown on a 4G usb stick. along with grub etc on usb.07:07
_genuser_64-bit installation requires 4.4G07:07
SunStarnope07:07
SunStarthere is the alternate install disk07:08
SunStarthat needs like 2.2 i think07:08
_genuser_the alternate install disk will install the regular but with less packages?07:08
SunStari havent used it07:08
SunStaryou may want to look into knoppix07:08
_genuser_hmmm, alternate does say it only requires 2G on disk to install. but it only downloads via torrent.07:09
SunStarwhat i did when i didnt have enough drive space was make a live disk, delete the peristence file (casper) and replace it with an ext2 partition and run it like that07:11
_genuser_I tried exactly that but, the Universal USB installer has a problem creating live stick with 12.10 packages. And unetbootin has other issues with this specific version.07:12
_genuser_ok found alternate installation disk. that should work.07:13
Simon[RW]I need to install an OS on my family's laptop. they will use it for watching movies, making office documents and presentations, and surfing the web. I've had it with Win 7, so I decided to try Linux. would Xubuntu 12.10 x64 be good?09:22
Spike29Simon[RW]: yes, but Xubuntu 12.04 is even better, because it is a Long-Term-Support version (supported till April 2015) :-)09:25
Simon[RW]oh, I've already downloaded the image09:25
Simon[RW]think it would be better if I download 12.04?09:26
Spike29Simon[RW]: Xubuntu 12.10 is supported till April 2014, but it's still ok to install on a laptop09:27
Simon[RW]yeah, sure, I hope LibreOffice or whatever will be compatible with basic .docx09:27
baizon+1 for 12.0409:27
Simon[RW]okay, I trust you guys, downloading 12.04 now09:29
Simon[RW]also, can I use a live USB for the installation?09:33
Spike29sure09:33
Simon[RW]is UNetbootin any good?09:34
leoquantyes Simon[RW]09:37
Simon[RW]okay, I'll let you know when I've installed it09:38
Simon[RW]then we can go on09:38
abderraoufhi09:56
abderraoufHello09:56
abderraoufThere are two proposals to improve Xubuntu09:56
abderraoufOne:09:56
abderraoufDirector files property add make each executable files. And not only a particular file type.09:56
abderraoufTwo:09:56
abderraoufAdd graphical interface to insert the proxy.09:57
abderraoufGreetings from the Linux community Arab.09:57
Simon[RW]so I began the installation process on the laptop10:13
Simon[RW]I'm typing this from my desktop with Windows 710:14
Simon[RW]that's why my Firefox keeps crashing10:14
Simon[RW]okay, xubuntu is installed, now what's the first thing I need to do?10:36
freedomrunhow about using it10:36
Simon[RW]well10:37
Simon[RW]what about that apt -get update command10:37
freedomrunusage will discover the things you need10:37
freedomrunyou should get notification from system about that10:38
freedomrundon`t worry10:38
freedomrunupdates are checked automaticaly10:38
Simon[RW]okay, what about drivers?10:38
Simon[RW]I know it's only a laptop10:38
Simon[RW]but still10:38
freedomrunis everything working ok?10:38
Simon[RW]looks like it10:39
freedomrunthen don`t worry10:39
Simon[RW]I'll tell you in 15 minutes, ok?10:39
freedomrun:) ok10:39
xubuntu289hello everyone10:39
freedomrunhi10:39
xubuntu289I have  a little question to you all10:39
xubuntu289is there someone with 3 minutes10:39
xubuntu289to clear my point, please? :-)10:40
freedomrunjust ask10:40
xubuntu289i have my acer notebook "fried"10:41
freedomrun?!10:41
xubuntu289seems that the boot can't read the Hard drive10:41
xubuntu289so windows 7 doesn't start10:41
Simon[RW]omg, when that happened to us, we had to buy a new hard drive10:42
xubuntu289i thought i could try to use a linux distro10:42
xubuntu289installed on a pen drive10:42
xubuntu289to see if it's a windows problem10:42
xubuntu289or the HD left me forever10:42
freedomrunxubuntu289, what are you trying to say? Did you tried to install xubuntu along the windows?10:42
xubuntu289no10:43
xubuntu289I want to know if xubuntu is a good choice within the Linux distribution to be installed on the pendrive10:43
xubuntu289to see if the HD is accessible from linux OS10:44
Simon[RW]as far as I know10:44
Simon[RW]it will be very laggy10:45
Simon[RW]and the installation will take a long, long time10:45
freedomruncan you be more specific about what procidures you have done about the hard drive? ...10:45
Simon[RW]it's also complicated to install it on a pen drive10:45
xubuntu289i'm gonna use a program called "Universal USB installer"10:45
xubuntu289I've found plenty of guides on the web10:46
Simon[RW]you can try10:46
xubuntu289i didnt' do anything on the hard drive10:46
Simon[RW]what happens when you try to boot?10:46
freedomrunxubuntu289, does your laptop have an cd player?10:46
xubuntu289yes it does10:46
xubuntu289thank you for the help guys, i have to leave the computer now10:47
xubuntu289i'll be coming back later10:47
xubuntu289have a nice day!10:47
Simon[RW]you too10:48
freedomrunxubuntu289, then go to: http://partedmagic.com/doku.php grab a cd image and burn it .. you will get linux for all your partition and hd needs with visual tools (GUIs)10:48
Simon[RW]freedomrun, I've installed a proprietary AMD graphics driver, and now I'm getting 75 updates10:49
freedomrunSimon[RW], you see :)10:49
Simon[RW]just asking, is this usually a dead channel? am I disturbing the peace?10:50
freedomrunno10:51
_genuser_guys, I have a xubuntu installation with 122M left on /.11:34
_genuser_is there a way to create a file and mount it as a loop device and add that space to the rootfs?11:35
xubuntu102hello. how can i make xubuntu 12.04 play dvds?11:45
xubuntu102uanble to mount iso 9660 and udf errors11:46
TheSheep!dvd | xubuntu10212:20
ubottuxubuntu102: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:20
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Pensacolais it a bug that xubuntu doesn't remember the audio device?12:27
PensacolaI have a HD-audio device and a Nvidia HDMI device, but it always returns to HD-audio after reboot12:27
Simon[RW]do you need any audio drivers for Xubuntu?13:41
Simon[RW]see13:53
Simon[RW]I now have Xubuntu on my laptop, but I'm going to connect it to a TV and watch movies13:54
Simon[RW]do I need additional drivers for audio?13:54
knomeyou shouldn't13:56
knomewhy don't you try and see?13:56
Simon[RW]okay14:03
Simon[RW]I'm leaving now, I'll be back later14:04
xubuntu876hello discs will not mount udf errors. gnome not helping , anyone with experience?14:13
xubuntu453can anyone help me with udf: not mounting any disks?14:53
xubuntu453anybody can help me with no playing dvds?15:52
knome!dvd | xubuntu45315:58
ubottuxubuntu453: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats15:58
xubuntu453ok thank you ill look into it15:59
xubuntu453knome thank you much it did the trick16:16
jostHi! Could it be that the default archive manager ignores the password when creating password-protected .zip-files?16:30
jostOr am I missing something?16:30
jostGot it... only the file contents are password protected, not the archive index itself.16:34
xubuntu637Heyo, anyone else had any issues with the 13.04 daily build not installing GRUB?17:11
batabohi all17:22
batabocan't get my sound to work17:22
batabohelp?17:23
xubuntu453hello does anyone knows what an orange exclamation sign next to the date means?17:23
bataboxubuntu453 - probably notification on updates17:23
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batabopozdrav, da li neko govori nas jezik?17:25
batabo?17:26
bataboanyone here actually?17:26
xubuntu453batabo, is not netting me click on it17:27
bataboxubuntu453 - guess a restart didn't help?17:28
bataboxubuntu453 you can try using Settings Manager/Software Updater17:31
bataboanyone got experience setting up sound?17:33
batabocan't get my sound to work - help?17:40
rosipovhow do I check what network card model do I have?17:41
well_laid_lawnbatabo:  have you tried using pavucontrol?17:41
well_laid_lawnrosipov:  it should show up in   lspci   run in a terminal17:42
well_laid_lawn!wifi | rosipov17:42
ubotturosipov: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs17:42
batabojust a moment - will do17:42
batabowell_laid_lawn - all seems fine in pavucontrol17:44
well_laid_lawnspeakers are turned on?17:44
well_laid_lawn!sound17:45
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.17:45
rosipovwell_laid_lawn: merci!17:45
batabo!sound bash: !sound: event not found17:46
ubottubatabo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:46
user__Hello, I seem to have a small issue19:15
TheSheepuser__: don't worry, they say that the size doesn't matter19:19
xubuntu116How can i format a sd card in xubuntu ? I try gparted but nothing happens.. the sd card is formated in ext4 and i can not even delete any files there.19:36
mkultraahoy, 12.04 will be my flash gentoo installer key for 4 moar years you guys say?22:47
mkultracan i bring down flash and stuff to watch youtube and facebook while i am in that 4 year span?22:47
holsteinmkultra: we dont/cant maintain flash.. chrome browser has the most recent version of flash for linux22:48
mkultrai had a 10.10 disk and it was horrible, no youtube, no xchat, no synaptic to pull anything like xchat in22:49
holsteinmkultra: you just install synaptic, or use whatever package manager you like22:49
holsteinyoutube is not an application22:49
Cheri703also, it likely had ubuntu software center instead of synaptic22:50
mkultrayeah im just curious how long the flash and browsers and stuffs gonna be good for, i probably wont need to re install for a while22:50
Cheri703iirc 10.10 was when that changed over22:50
mkultrait was synaptic22:50
mkultraim down from my desktop to my rescue laptop22:51
holsteinmkultra: google chrome provides the most current version of flash.. it will be good til its not, and there really is no way to know/prediect that.. usually some things support older versions, and some dont22:51
mkultra10.10 was before html5 browsers i was kinda shocked about that, its not that old....22:52
holsteinmkultra: you just install whatever browser you want/need22:52
SunStar10 was crap any way22:52
holstein"crap" is a matter of opinion.. 10.04 is still supported, and works quite well22:52
mkultra10.04 is ultra old22:53
mkultrai hate the dash....22:53
holsteinmkultra: depends on how you look at it.. its just 3 years.. most os's have a 3 year support cycle22:53
mkultramy ubuntu keys stopped working on me, so im re unetbootin them22:53
mkultrai think ubuntu should of made a gubuntu to keep the gnomes going on22:54
holsteinmkultra: you can install gnome22:54
holstein!nounity22:54
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic22:54
SunStaryou are welcome to make it22:54
holsteinubuntu is doing what it always did.. provide the most current version of gnome in the repositories22:55
mkultraim on gnome2 right now, i dont like 3, but i still like 3 over unity or what ever...  dash lol22:56
mkultrai wrote a bunch of ubuntu articles a while ago, they are archived goodies now22:56
holsteinxfce is a lot like the older gnome2 look/feel.. current, clean and well supported..22:56
holstein!xubuntu22:56
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels22:57
David-Amkultra: there is also the Mate desktop that looks very much like the old gnome22:57
mkultrai was originally xfce for a long long time, then sometime during the 4 series they took a left turn for the worse, but theres been a recurrence of use and fixings22:57
mkultraall i really want is a gnome2 or xfce live rescue disk with irc and browsers to watch garbage on while the computers being fixed in the background22:58
mkultramaybe a little disk checking / ram checking, nm-applet stuff of that sort22:59
holsteinmkultra: 10.04 is running gnome2, still supported, and supports google-chome22:59
mkultraxubuntu 12.04 sounds a bit tastier for a live flash rescue disk / chroot for an extended period of time23:01
holsteinmkultra: thats XFCE.. not gnome223:01
holsteinmkultra: i prefer xubuntu 12.04.. but if i had stated "i want gnome2" i would not use XFCE23:01
knomeholstein, well 10.04 is barely supported...23:01
mkultrag2 or xfce23:02
mkultrathey are about the same, xfce is a bit lighter though23:02
mkultrai dont intend on installing it is the big thing....23:02
mkultraits my "lawn chair" repair kit for gentoo when i freak that out to the max, have to zero a huge drive, stay entertained for a whole day to recompile the entire os23:03
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blahsphemerI just got a desktop pc and tried instal xubuntu on it. There is a terrible mouse lag23:36
blahsphemerCan someone please help me with htis23:36
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