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mariuskoAnybody here that could help me getting my environment up after node 0 is not working?10:34
mariuskoBounty offered here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/271312/what-to-do-when-juju-machine-0-has-got-agent-state-not-started-state10:36
mariuskoI am actually able to log into machine 0, but how to get the agent running again?10:57
mariuskoThe log there says: Failure: txzookeeper.client.ConnectionTimeoutException: could not connect before timeout10:57
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popeywhere should I go for support with juju? I am running raring on my desktop so expect to be told I can't use askubuntu..12:42
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marcoceppipopey here works13:39
popeyok, on raring I just went through the tutorial, add the ppa, install juju, then bootstrap13:40
popeyi then did "juju deploy etherpad-lite" and it barfed13:40
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/564619413:40
popeylike that13:40
popeyjuju status just returns a timeout now13:40
marcoceppiAlso, WRT Ask Ubuntu, not all topics wrt raring are offtopic, Juju on raring would be ontopic FWIW13:40
popeyoh, i thought all Ubuntu+1 was offtopic, sorry13:41
marcoceppipopey: that looks like a bug to be honest13:42
marcoceppiWhat version of juju is this listed as in the package?13:42
marcoceppiI don't have a raring machine up yet, let me spin up a VM to test13:45
marcoceppipopey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/115902013:46
_mup_Bug #1159020: SyntaxError: invalid syntax <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1159020 >13:46
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popeymarcoceppi: yeah, looks like it, using 0.6.0.1+bzr620-0juju2~raring113:48
mgzlooks like it's from python 2 and 2.7 getting muddled13:48
mgzlxc-ls is being given to python 3 when it's a python 2 script13:49
mgzdoesn't look juju related at any rate13:52
jcastro_popey: if you're going to use canonistack and AWS, try the 2.0 version!13:55
mgzpopey: I'm curious about your environment though, do you have PYTHONPATH or anything set?13:56
popeymgz: no13:56
popeymgz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/564641413:57
mgzif you just run `lxc-ls` what happens?13:57
popeynothing13:57
mgznothing is not an error, so the missing fun element is something else...13:57
popeyi have two machines here, can probably replicate it13:58
popeyyeah, same on my laptop14:01
popeyunsurprisingly14:01
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mariuskoHmm, I just wonder if some of the problems I experience is caused by too much memory consumption by the Python stuff compared to the 512 mb available in my ec2 t1.micro instances?15:55
mariuskoAnd they run without swap, so I guess the kernel kills "random" processes when the memory runs out15:55
mariuskoWould the go version reduce this problem?15:59
mgzby making t1.micro have more memory? :)16:00
mgzI'm not sure is the real answer.16:01
mgzthe memory used by juju on everything but the state server should be pretty limited regardless16:01
mgzand I'm not sure which is worse out of zookeeper and mongo16:01
mgzif it's machine 0 that's having the issues, you can always deploy just that on a larger instance by passing a constraint on bootstrap16:02
mgzI think that has helped for other people in the past.16:03
mariuskoIronically I am suspecting that the problem grew worse by adding landscape client for monitoring them16:03
mgzthat's implemented as a subordinate charm?16:03
mariuskojapp16:03
mgzthat would push up the requirements for each machine16:03
mariuskoHmm, for small deployments, the price for running a lot of those m1.small instances is noticable with all required nodes16:05
mgzyup, micro is a good deal, but is a very different beast16:06
mariuskohmm, japp, if they just had added some swap, it wouldn't be so destructive16:08
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hazmat`mariusko, ec2 micro instances are not regular vms..19:17
hazmat`they are heavily penalized for cpu usage.19:18
hazmat`both zk and mongodb favor keeping things in memory.. overall data set size is similiar between the two (excluding debug-log)19:19
SpamapShazmat`: 'favor' is a bit light for what zk does with its dataset in RAM ;)19:20
* SpamapS notes that MySQL is happy to run (horribly) w/ a 16MB buffer.19:21
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hazmat`SpamapS, fair enough.. they both strongly desire working set in ram, with zk required, mongodb.. almost required for good perf.19:24
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sarnoldhrm, am I doing something wrong here? ZOO_ERROR@handle_socket_error_msg@1579: Socket [10.0.3.1:39997] zk retcode=-4, errno=111(Connection refused): server refused to accept the client22:34
sarnoldah. full disk == bad news.22:57
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