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| ScottK | Riddelll: Looks like we forgot to update bluedevil to the current release. | 04:56 |
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| soee | good morning | 07:17 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:29 |
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| jussi | anyone remember the Qt/html in a web browser thing ? | 08:41 |
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| agateau | jussi: emscripten-qt? | 10:22 |
| Riddelll | jussi: Wt? | 11:36 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 11:44 |
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| Darkwing | Morning | 12:54 |
| Riddelll | hi Darkwing | 12:54 |
| Darkwing | Riddelll: you have 3 'l' :D | 12:54 |
| Riddelll | gosh how special of me | 12:55 |
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| Darkwing | Riddelll: Also, does it look like we are going to be heading toward a "rolling release"? | 12:55 |
| ScottK | Darkwing: No. | 12:55 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: nope | 12:55 |
| Darkwing | Really... Nothing changing then? :D | 12:55 |
| Riddell | shorter support period and more encouragement for people to use development version | 12:56 |
| Darkwing | ahhhh... | 12:56 |
| * Darkwing poders the docs | 12:56 | |
| * ScottK hands Darkwing an "n". | 12:58 | |
| Darkwing | s/poders/ponders/ | 12:59 |
| kubotu | Darkwing meant: "ponders the docs" | 12:59 |
| Darkwing | I want to switch to an online docs system, then pull them, fix the XML and upload. This way we can get more people in without forcing them to write Docbook... | 12:59 |
| Riddell | and we can get them online for free \o/ | 13:00 |
| Darkwing | Yup | 13:00 |
| Darkwing | I just need to find the right software to use... Plus, something with a translation api built in. | 13:00 |
| Darkwing | or, just straight translations. | 13:01 |
| Riddell | mm, tricksy | 13:01 |
| Darkwing | I would also love a "Did this article help" button at the bottom. | 13:01 |
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| Riddell | Darkwing: seen ubuntu-manual? | 13:12 |
| Riddell | that's quite accessible compared to the official docs | 13:13 |
| Darkwing | Aye... hmmz. | 13:27 |
| Riddell | there was a technical docs writer at the hack event I was at this weekend who commented on it as a good manual | 13:28 |
| Riddell | she also says she'd be happy to do some for kubuntu if she was told what 1 hour job to do | 13:29 |
| Riddell | which is a bit limited usefulness alas | 13:29 |
| Darkwing | You have an email addy? | 13:29 |
| Darkwing | Not really... If she can write in ODT or any text format, I'll drop it into XML/Docbook for her | 13:29 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: http://www.techaddiction.co.uk/contact/ | 13:37 |
| Riddell | i think it'll need a specific appropach "update this article" etc rather than anything vauge | 13:37 |
| Riddell | and we'll need to convince her to install kubuntu but she's in the market for upgrading from 10.04 :) | 13:38 |
| Darkwing | I run the LTS on my desktop but, VM is good for it because it gives me a non-custom install | 13:39 |
| Darkwing | Riddell: I'll orgonaize the todo list better. | 13:40 |
| Mamarok | I have no more notifications since my upgrade to 13.04 beta1 | 13:55 |
| soee | :D | 13:55 |
| jussi | agateau: itwas emscripten, thanks | 13:55 |
| agateau | yw | 13:56 |
| Mamarok | gah, apparently the Notifications widget is not on the panel anymore by default | 13:57 |
| Riddell | umm | 13:57 |
| Riddell | /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/init/00-defaultLayout.js does still say notifier | 13:58 |
| soee | Riddell, todays updates make my system beta1 version ? | 14:00 |
| Mamarok | for some obscure reason it was not in my panel anymore, and I have started with a fresh ~/.kde/ when I upgraded | 14:00 |
| Riddell | soee: beta 1 and a week | 14:00 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: mm needs testing | 14:00 |
| Riddell | I mean I'll do testing to confirm | 14:01 |
| Riddell | we also need to ensure the print applet gets added on upgrade | 14:01 |
| soee | how can i clone git specific branch ? | 14:21 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Seeing that I haven't made any proper changes to www.k.o in years and don't even know the current www-admin passwords, my name on http://www.kubuntu.org/contact-us should probably be replaced by whoever's currently taking care of things... | 14:30 |
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| ScottK | ryanakca: Or you should start contributing again would be another option ... | 14:35 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: you're assuming someone is taking care of things :) | 14:36 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: Does the work breakdown still include 80% of time dedicated to nagging sysadmins? | 14:37 |
| ScottK | Only when we want to change stuff they need to change. | 14:37 |
| ScottK | Mostly we try to avoid that. | 14:37 |
| Riddell | ScottK: want to review bug 1159262 so I can review it for New? | 15:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1159262 in Ubuntu "FFe: plasma-mediacenter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1159262 | 15:30 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Done. | 15:30 |
| ScottK | Riddell: What do you think about updating bluedevil? We're a major release behind ATM. | 15:31 |
| * ScottK thinks we probably should, but can't test it. | 15:31 | |
| Riddell | ScottK: yeah was going to look at that shortly, I see alex blogged about it too | 15:31 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 15:32 |
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| Darkwing | I have a couple of BlueTooth dongles... | 15:35 |
| Darkwing | and a laptop with bluetooth built is. | 15:35 |
| Darkwing | s/is/in/ | 15:35 |
| kubotu | Darkwing meant: "and a laptop with bluetooth built in." | 15:35 |
| Darkwing | Precise, Quantal and Raring | 15:36 |
| Riddell | ScottK: do you agree this new bluedevil doesn't need a FFe? http://www.afiestas.org/bluedevil-1-3-released/ | 16:59 |
| Riddell | it's just bugfixes according to that post | 16:59 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Agreed. | 17:01 |
| xnox | so in gtk world libindicate got deprecated in favor of using messaging-menu-dev (~quantal FFe). I'm now looking at reverse dependenices and I'm now finding: libindicate -> plasma-widget-message-indicator -> kopete-message-indicator. | 17:02 |
| Riddell | afiestas_: why the new version number for bluedevil 1.3? | 17:03 |
| xnox | Now I am confused, is this meant to integrate kopete with indicator in a gnome DE -> in that case it needs porting to messaging-menu. | 17:03 |
| afiestas_ | Riddell: what do you mean? | 17:03 |
| Riddell | agateau: ^^ | 17:03 |
| Riddell | afiestas_: why 1.3 rather than 1.2.2? | 17:03 |
| xnox | and is plasma-widget-message-indicator -> dissplay libindicate in a KDE DE? -> in that case it should be ported to display messaging-menu | 17:03 |
| Riddell | afiestas_: it looks like bug fixes only | 17:03 |
| * xnox ponders what should I be porting to what =) | 17:04 | |
| afiestas_ | Riddell: because there is a huge patch that I did not wanted in 1.2 | 17:04 |
| xnox | unless this is all kde specific and nothing to do with gtk side of things. | 17:04 |
| afiestas_ | removing the thread from KDED and use async dbus api instead | 17:04 |
| agateau | xnox: plasma-widget-message-indicator is the kde equivalent of the message menu | 17:04 |
| agateau | xnox: it is based on libindicate-qt, which is a wrapper for libindicate | 17:05 |
| Riddell | kopete-message-indicator recommends plasma-widget-message-indicator but it can aso work with unity messaging applet | 17:05 |
| agateau | xnox: and kopete-message-indicator is a kopete plugins which makes it work with those message menus | 17:05 |
| xnox | cool, thanks. | 17:06 |
| xnox | Now libindicate is depreated in favor or "src:indicator-messages" & libmessaging-menu-dev, which doesn't seem to have a -qt variant =( *sigh* | 17:06 |
| * xnox wishes gir could generate C++/Qt style bindings. | 17:07 | |
| Riddell | the seems like quite an oversight from the people who did that deprecation | 17:07 |
| xnox | Riddell: it really means that all the apps that got ported to messaging-menu work in Gnome/Unity, but don't work in KDE. And only "legacy" unported work in KDE, but not GNOME/Unity. | 17:08 |
| * xnox is dizzy and day-dreaming about XOR function | 17:08 | |
| Riddell | time to remove the whole messaging menu from KDE then? what a shame | 17:09 |
| ScottK | xnox: It means Canonical is consistent in how good a job they do of coordination can working with others. | 17:56 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Unfortunately, I think that's true. | 17:56 |
| murthy | hello everyone | 17:56 |
| murthy | Riddell: did smartboyhw change his nick? | 18:10 |
| Riddell | murthy: no don't think so | 18:14 |
| Riddell | he's just not online much at the minute | 18:14 |
| Riddell | he did say something about nookita at the weekend | 18:14 |
| Riddell | not sure the current status of that | 18:14 |
| ScottK | He was asking for reviews. | 18:16 |
| murthy | Riddell: are we allowed to use the latest standards for new packages and can we update the standards of the present packages to the latest? | 18:17 |
| murthy | Riddell: last time i was told not to do that, but i saw in a changelog that smartboyhw has updated the standards to the latest | 18:18 |
| Riddell | murthy: of course you're allowed to and encouraged to update them but not if it makes a diff compared to debian | 18:19 |
| Riddell | you should read over the current debian standard to ensure it complies with it | 18:19 |
| murthy | Riddell: that implies we can use the latest standards for new packaging? | 18:20 |
| Riddell | murthy: of course | 18:20 |
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| xnox | murthy: i started to always do it, just to get matching/latest lintian nitpicks. | 19:06 |
| murthy | xnox: ok | 19:13 |
| sudeep | Hi. I am an undergraduate student. I have worked with Qt and C++ to create small applicationsn like games, music players, hotel automation softwares etc. Can somebody recommend me a open source project in KDE for me to begin? Ideally the priject should be small scaled so that there is a lot of scope of contribution. | 19:34 |
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| murthy | sudeep: did you take a look at the kde gsoc 2013? | 19:52 |
| murthy | sudeep: http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/Ideas | 19:53 |
| murthy | sudeep: kmix is in need for devs | 19:55 |
| sudeep | murthy: Actually I am new to open source and want to proceed slowly i.e. by starting of by fixing bugs etc. | 19:56 |
| murthy | sudeep: ya, kmix is one such | 19:56 |
| sudeep | any more? Like I had a look at arora browser. It was really nice but was dead. | 19:57 |
| murthy | sudeep: do you want to work for kde or do you want to work for kubuntu particularly? | 19:59 |
| sudeep | murthy: Anyone. I have mostly being doing GUI programming. Now I am looking for something application like a web browser or music player or desktop manipulator wherein I can add features. | 20:01 |
| murthy | sudeep: do you know python? | 20:03 |
| sudeep | murthy: yup! | 20:04 |
| murthy | sudeep: in that case what about the kubuntu installer ubiquity? | 20:05 |
| sudeep | murthy: Ok. I am sorry but I would like to work in C++. I will have a look at ubiquity anyway. Anymore suggestion in c++? | 20:07 |
| murthy | sudeep: have you seen this http://community.kde.org/KDE/Junior_Jobs ? | 20:10 |
| murthy | sudeep: ignore kopete in that list | 20:11 |
| murthy | sudeep: plasma media center is also one | 20:13 |
| murthy | sudeep: if you know qml you could port some of the plasma widgets | 20:14 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I may have been blaming you unfairly. This exam thing must be cultural. vibhav was just blaming exams for lack of contribution. | 20:24 |
| ScottK | :-) | 20:25 |
| murthy | ScottK: same condition here | 20:32 |
| ScottK | murthy: shadeslayer was the master of the things he could do, but not for exams. | 20:37 |
| ScottK | Now it's usually something about sleep. | 20:37 |
| murthy | ScottK: ya, but he is not Mr. unstoppable :D | 20:39 |
| Quintasan | yofel: ping | 20:43 |
| yofel | Quintasan: pong, more or less | 20:44 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Do you have problems when trying to unlock from suspend? | 20:44 |
| murthy | yofel: hi | 20:44 |
| murthy | Quintasan: you are not able to unlock? | 20:45 |
| yofel | nope, works for me always. It's more a questiong whether it *locks* | 20:45 |
| Quintasan | murthy: More precisely -> I open the lid -> get the password promt for unlock -> I can input the password but pressing unlock does nothing | 20:46 |
| Quintasan | I finally killed it with dbus | 20:46 |
| murthy | Quintasan: let me check | 20:47 |
| murthy | Quintasan: works here | 20:47 |
| Quintasan | It doesn't tirgger every time here | 20:48 |
| murthy | Quintasan: trigger what? | 20:48 |
| Quintasan | the bug... | 20:49 |
| murthy | Quintasan: anything in the logs? | 20:50 |
| Quintasan | Can't say anything for sure, .xsession-errors yields nothing | 20:50 |
| murthy | Quintasan: kde version? | 20:51 |
| Quintasan | 4.10.1 | 20:51 |
| murthy | same here | 20:52 |
| murthy | do you have some component from masters installed? i guess that may be a cause | 20:53 |
| Quintasan | That's a wild (and incorrect guess) | 20:53 |
| Quintasan | I thought you have an idea but I guess you're as clueless as me about that | 20:53 |
| murthy | I haven't come across the bug yet | 20:54 |
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| yofel | Quintasan: ping | 21:16 |
| Quintasan | one more time in 3 seconds :P | 21:16 |
| yofel | !ping | Quintasan | 21:16 |
| ubottu | Quintasan: pong! | 21:16 |
| Quintasan | hurrrrrrrrrrrr | 21:17 |
| jussi | Quintasan: its all your fault... | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | yofel: I have no fucking idea why but sometimes my plasma notification get misplaced | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | Like, they go to the middle of the screen instead of right above the task bar | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | !ping | 21:17 |
| ubottu | pong! | 21:17 |
| yofel | if you mean top-middle with different style then knotify is not running | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | hurr | 21:17 |
| Quintasan | yofel: no, the style is oxygen | 21:18 |
| yofel | Quintasan: weird | 21:18 |
| jussi | Quintasan: evil | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | !ping | Quintasan | 21:18 |
| ubottu | Quintasan, please see my private message | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | yeah | 21:18 |
| jussi | Quintasan: I had that on an older release | 21:18 |
| jussi | Quintasan: because I can... | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | I just removed the damn notification from systray and readded it and now it works | 21:18 |
| jussi | Quintasan: Im going to bed, good night | 21:19 |
| jussi | :D | 21:19 |
| Quintasan | jussi: Well you've been so long here | 21:19 |
| Quintasan | :P | 21:19 |
| jussi | lol | 21:19 |
| Quintasan | jussi: Good night then | 21:19 |
| jussi | nini | 21:19 |
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| Quintasan | well | 22:54 |
| Quintasan | I'm off to bed too | 22:54 |
| yofel | nini Quintasan | 23:00 |
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