[01:33] <nankura> hello. i was just wondering were i can download and take a look at beta 1 of 13.04, from an australian mirror. it seems to only be available from american mirrors right now
[01:37] <Bollsaq> I can't update a PPA I added that works fine in the current stable version. Is it usual to not be able to update a PPA after adding it in the beta release?
[01:38] <Kow> Bollsaq: the PPA may not be available for the particular release, in this case raring
[01:38] <Bollsaq> Kow: Yes, that PPA would be for PS3 Media Server. Is there an app in software center that has something that does the same thing?
[01:40] <Kow> Bollsaq: i wouldn't know, you can try google searching for PS3 + raring
[01:40] <arand> It might be possible to add the PPA for the old Ubuntu version instead, with the obvious caveat that it might not woork as it should.
[01:57] <Bollsaq> Thanks y'all. Still nothing going, but hopefully there's another option in software center.
[10:23] <elky> Hrm, the plugin finder in firefox never seems to get to a resolution with its searching
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:03] <diego_> hello everyne!
[13:03] <diego_> I have a problem with xorg and xinerama on kubuntu raring. when I activate xinerama I have a segmentation fault in the xorg log files and then I'm not able to start lightdm and kde
[13:03] <diego_> anyone can help me?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> diego_:  why xinerama ? , multiple dispalys ?
[13:13] <diego_> multiple diplays on multiple cards
[13:14] <diego_> It's currently working with twinview
[13:14] <diego_> but I cannot move windows between the two displays
[13:14] <diego_> so I'm trying to use xinerama
[13:15] <diego_> I have seen that should be possible also with xrandr 1.4, but I don't know how I can configure it
[13:15] <diego_> anyway the command xrandr is able to see only one of the two cards
[13:19] <BluesKaj> ok diego_ , afraid that kind of setup is beyond my scope and experience
[13:21] <diego_> BluesKaj: do you know where I can ask? I tried to ask in #xorg but I didn't have any answer...
[13:38] <ikonia> diego_: twinview - on two seperate cards ?
[13:38] <ikonia> diego_: i thought twinview limited you to one physical card
[13:39] <ikonia> in reference to the segfault, you should hopefully have a dump file, get that logged in launchpad for analysis
[13:41] <diego_> no twinview can work on two different cards
[13:41] <diego_> xinerama also but xinerama has some problems
[13:41] <ikonia> when did that start ? I thought it was only different outputs on the same card ?
[13:42] <ikonia> i know xinerama can, twinview I'm surprised with
[13:42] <diego_> well...should be twinview...I cannot move windows between the two displays
[13:43] <diego_> should be twinview
[13:43] <diego_> how can I check it?
[13:44] <diego_> consider that if I add the option "xinerama" "on" I have the segfault
[13:53] <ikonia> diego_: not being able to move windows between the two suggests twinview can't deal with the two cards
[13:53] <ikonia> diego_: do you know %101 twinview can do a "span" over multiple desktops/cards
[13:54] <diego_> ok
[13:55] <diego_> so, what I should do to solve this problem?
[13:55] <ikonia> be helpful if you could answer my questions
[13:55] <ikonia> and follow the advice I've suggested
[13:57] <diego_> I don't know so much about twinview, xorg and xinerama...I think I can open a bug with the log file
[13:58] <ikonia> diego_: why do you think twinview can span 2 cards ? there must be a reason for this ?
[13:59] <diego_> mmmhhh...reading on the web I have read some posts about that but could be possible that I'm wrong
[13:59] <diego_> I can show you my config file
[13:59] <ikonia> I'm surprised as it never used to support it hence my query
[13:59] <ikonia> your config file doesn't show if it's supported or not
[14:02] <diego_> yes, you are right , but if turning on xinerama you have a segfault, and if you turn off xinerama you can start kde with two displays but you cannot move windows between them, then you can read on the web that this problem is tipical of twinview, I was thinking it was running with twinview and that was the problem
[14:05] <diego_> ikonia: I know you are looking for precise answers but I'm just following some posts to configure my docking station on my laptop and I'm not really expert of xorg.
[14:13] <diego_> the strange thing is that one time worked with randr...after several attempts kde started and I was able to move windows between the two displays....xrandr --listproviders was showing the both cards...but then, without changing anything and only rebooting the problem came again...
[14:13] <ikonia> diego_: my suggestion would be, confirm the support, so you don't waste time with false bugs, then log the segfault bug to ubuntu, who will probably work it through
[14:18] <diego_> how can I log the degfault bug to ubuntu?
[14:19] <ikonia> !bug | diego_
[14:22] <diego_> ahhh ok! sorry I didn't understand! yes I have already used that for another bug in the kernel
[14:23] <Bauer> hey guys, I have issues with starting Skype, for a few weeks now I have been unable to start it (getting crashes when I try) - I just tried remove, autoremove, autoclean and install again
[14:23] <Bauer> its still not working - does it work for anyone else? on RR of course
[14:24] <diego_> Bauer: for me skype works fine...
[14:26] <diego_> Bauer: fine maybe is not a good word...it's still a microsoft product and it has a lot of problems with audio cards configuration and some crashes sometimes...but it works in an acceptable way
[14:27] <Bauer> diego_: it used to work for me too at first (kind of), but later started crashing or not starting
[14:27] <Bauer> I am not sure how to debug this ...
[14:29] <Bauer> interesting, just found a similar bug report with a workaround: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327
[14:30] <Bauer> the workaround appears to work just tested.. but wish for a more permanent fix sometime soon :)
[14:31] <fyksen> Hey! I got ubuntu 13.04 installed the server image, then did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Everything went well except I can't configure the sensetivity off my mouce. See picture here: http://ubuntuone.com/2xVGwAawnu1uyBExuqZzq8
[15:36] <hubx> hi there
[15:37] <hubx> since today's update pidgin crashes with a sigsegv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/1159845
[16:15] <fg> hey, my acer 5542g tends to get excessively hot, is there a way i can scale the cpu frequency
[16:55] <fg> I am usning ubuntu 13.04
[16:56] <jacobw> fg: is the fan working correctly?
[16:56] <fg> yes
[16:57] <fg> you hear it running
[16:57] <fg> at idle it's good
[16:58] <fg> so far it only happens when i'm watching movies
[17:06] <Chipaca> fg: it's probably not the cpu, unless you're doing things in software to view movies
[17:07] <Chipaca> fg: in my dell the fan works overtime if i do video-intensive things because of the gpu
[17:07] <Chipaca> note video-intensive things on this machine include minecraft :)
[17:11] <fg> ok
[17:12] <fg> so maybe it is that the fan needs to be cleaned
[17:48] <fg> Chipaca: if it is the gpu that cause it to overheat, what can i do to reduce that?
[17:48] <Chipaca> fg: um. bring the resolution down? :)
[17:50] <Chipaca> fg: if it is that (and bringing the resolution down is an easy way to test that), there's not much you can do that you'll like (because "make the gpu make less work" is not tradeoff-free)
[17:50] <fg> ok, will try that. thanks
[17:57] <murthy> hello everyone
[19:53] <michagogo> When's version R expected to be out, anyone know?
[19:54] <IdleOne> April 25
[19:55] <IdleOne> !schedule
[20:22] <TheDrums> !isitout
[20:24] <jtaylor> oO
[20:29] <michagogo> About 6 months outdates
[20:29] <michagogo> 5*
[21:09] <Noize_> Hello
[21:10] <Noize_> Can someone help me install 13.04?
[21:10] <Noize_> I need to install with efi
[21:10] <Noize_> my current partition setup is not working, won't boot
[21:10] <Noize_> Could someone please assist me?
[21:14] <Noize_> My current partition setup is efi, ext4(for Ubuntu), ext4(Storage), swap
[21:14] <Noize_> !help
[21:14] <Noize_> !patience
[21:17] <k1l_> !uefi | Noize_
[21:17] <k1l_> (thats all i know about uefi. i dont have uefi hardware here)
[21:18] <Noize_> K1l_ I previously had 12.10 installed on my node, with the same setup as I've listed
[21:19] <Noize_> Is secureboot supported/used in 13.04?
[21:23] <k1l_> sry, dont know about that.
[21:48] <Noize_> Has anyone installed Ubuntu in EFI mode before? Specifically 13.04
[21:59] <peawormsworth> My only experience with EFI and secureboot was to shut it off in order to boot linux from a USB stick. I would love to hear about others who have actually tried to work with it tho.
[22:12] <peawormsworth>  
[22:14] <peawormsworth> if I add a new desktop icons as: ~/Desktop/test.desktop and include options like "Exec=gnome-terminal some_script", and "Icon=some_icon"... then press CTRL-ALT-t, the terminal icon in the launcher becomes "some_icon" and no longer shows the default terminal icon as I would expect it to.
[22:15] <peawormsworth> Why should icons in the desktop effect the main icons for programs?
[22:23] <peawormsworth> This has to be an error in either Ubuntu code or unity. Because now I am putting to desktop files with different icons and they both have "Exec=gnome-terminal <a script>" and it is totally random as to what icon now appears when I bring up the normal terminal.
[22:24] <peawormsworth> I set "Icon=firefox" and now I bring up the terminal and firefox icon appears in the launcher.
[22:44] <ikonia> !info apache2
[23:44] <SuperLag> If you get broken packages on an upgrade attempt, does that mean your whole install gets hosed? or can you fix it easily once the broken packages get fixed in the repos?
[23:45] <SuperLag> peawormsworth: the default place for those config files for launchers is /usr/share/applications/
[23:45] <SuperLag> oh... wasn't watching that you're trying to make desktop icons
[23:45] <SuperLag> doh